Comments on: Here’s How the CIA Can Fudge the Question of Whether Torture ‘Worked’ http://washingtonindependent.com/56259/heres-how-the-cia-can-fudge-the-question-of-whether-torture-worked National News in Context Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:40:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Did Torture Work? | Heretical Ideas Blog http://washingtonindependent.com/56259/heres-how-the-cia-can-fudge-the-question-of-whether-torture-worked/comment-page-1#comment-70543 Did Torture Work? | Heretical Ideas Blog Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:04:42 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=56259#comment-70543 [...] is flatly untrue. First of all, as Spencer Ackerman points out, the Inspector General’s report actually muddles the techniques so that it’s hard to [...] [...] is flatly untrue. First of all, as Spencer Ackerman points out, the Inspector General’s report actually muddles the techniques so that it’s hard to [...]

]]> By: richardsudden http://washingtonindependent.com/56259/heres-how-the-cia-can-fudge-the-question-of-whether-torture-worked/comment-page-1#comment-70326 richardsudden Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:49:04 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=56259#comment-70326 No one is above the law in America. No one. Investigate Bush and Cheney now. No one is above the law in America. No one. Investigate Bush and Cheney now.

]]> By: daveinboca http://washingtonindependent.com/56259/heres-how-the-cia-can-fudge-the-question-of-whether-torture-worked/comment-page-1#comment-68977 daveinboca Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:45:49 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=56259#comment-68977 Marc, your ignorance is as dependable as Dems calling for bigger government. Of the "fifteen Saudi hijackers," 11 were of Yemeni extraction and carried Saudi passports only to help Bin Laden convince the Fifth Column in the USA that the Saudis had something to do with 9/11 in an official undercover fashion. I know that actual knowledge of areas is inimical to your brand of agitprop, but Bin Laden considers himself a Yemeni, as did 11 of the "15 Saudi" hijackers.<br><br>Probably way too complicated for your room temp IQ, but simple math skills say that 6 of the 19 highjackers were from Saudi & Lebanon, not quite "most of the 911 hijackers." Or were you educated in public schools by AFTA/NEA union members? Then I can understand. Marc, your ignorance is as dependable as Dems calling for bigger government. Of the “fifteen Saudi hijackers,” 11 were of Yemeni extraction and carried Saudi passports only to help Bin Laden convince the Fifth Column in the USA that the Saudis had something to do with 9/11 in an official undercover fashion. I know that actual knowledge of areas is inimical to your brand of agitprop, but Bin Laden considers himself a Yemeni, as did 11 of the “15 Saudi” hijackers.

Probably way too complicated for your room temp IQ, but simple math skills say that 6 of the 19 highjackers were from Saudi & Lebanon, not quite “most of the 911 hijackers.” Or were you educated in public schools by AFTA/NEA union members? Then I can understand.

]]> By: marc http://washingtonindependent.com/56259/heres-how-the-cia-can-fudge-the-question-of-whether-torture-worked/comment-page-1#comment-68967 marc Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:41:36 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=56259#comment-68967 WOW ! daveinboca was a FSO Arabist Political Officer in Saudi Arabia and Lebanon! Two places that supplied most of the 911 hijackers. That explains a lot. And to think I use to think that Arabs hated us for our freedom. WOW ! daveinboca was a FSO Arabist Political Officer in Saudi Arabia and Lebanon! Two places that supplied most of the 911 hijackers. That explains a lot. And to think I use to think that Arabs hated us for our freedom.

]]> By: daveinboca http://washingtonindependent.com/56259/heres-how-the-cia-can-fudge-the-question-of-whether-torture-worked/comment-page-1#comment-68954 daveinboca Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:32:26 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=56259#comment-68954 Actually, I was an FSO Arabist Political Officer in Saudi Arabia and Lebanon, and can attest that the "false dichotomy" is on dconrad's part, as he obviously has no sense or knowledge of the local mindset in the region. For the terrorists in custody, waterboarding does not constitute "torture," although repeated applications might have some effect. Only the legal sorcerers of the leftist libtards can turn a nuisance and annoyance for the terrorist mindset like waterboarding, into "torture." Power drills and cutting off sexual organs & other mutilations are what might move these infra types to talk. KSM was a fat weakling, so he blabbed under water, even though he knew he wouldn't drown.<br><br>I don't give a shit about your exquisite bookish perfesser-BS when human lives are at stake. And Cheney was right when he noted that the LA Library Tower and other targets were not attacked due to aggressive interrogation.<br><br>But most of the specimens infesting this thread are true America-haters----pure and simple. Your high-minded prattle about "torture" doesn't even understand America's far-away enemies, because you quislings are the real enemy, the Fifth Column infecting the marketplace of ideas. Actually, I was an FSO Arabist Political Officer in Saudi Arabia and Lebanon, and can attest that the “false dichotomy” is on dconrad's part, as he obviously has no sense or knowledge of the local mindset in the region. For the terrorists in custody, waterboarding does not constitute “torture,” although repeated applications might have some effect. Only the legal sorcerers of the leftist libtards can turn a nuisance and annoyance for the terrorist mindset like waterboarding, into “torture.” Power drills and cutting off sexual organs & other mutilations are what might move these infra types to talk. KSM was a fat weakling, so he blabbed under water, even though he knew he wouldn't drown.

I don't give a shit about your exquisite bookish perfesser-BS when human lives are at stake. And Cheney was right when he noted that the LA Library Tower and other targets were not attacked due to aggressive interrogation.

But most of the specimens infesting this thread are true America-haters—-pure and simple. Your high-minded prattle about “torture” doesn't even understand America's far-away enemies, because you quislings are the real enemy, the Fifth Column infecting the marketplace of ideas.

]]> By: 1 Boring Old Man » Hannity’s Special… http://washingtonindependent.com/56259/heres-how-the-cia-can-fudge-the-question-of-whether-torture-worked/comment-page-1#comment-69010 1 Boring Old Man » Hannity’s Special… Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:41:04 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=56259#comment-69010 [...] capture. There are repeated references to the value of “debriefings,” which the 2004 CIA inspector general’s report says are distinct from the “enhanced interrogation techniques” but can be used after they occur. For [...] [...] capture. There are repeated references to the value of “debriefings,” which the 2004 CIA inspector general’s report says are distinct from the “enhanced interrogation techniques” but can be used after they occur. For [...]

]]> By: dconrad http://washingtonindependent.com/56259/heres-how-the-cia-can-fudge-the-question-of-whether-torture-worked/comment-page-1#comment-68833 dconrad Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:07:44 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=56259#comment-68833 This is a false dichotomy. Either we torture, or we play pattycake, either we waterboard, or we just send them to bed without supper. Anyone arguing this way is not really being serious about the challenge we face in figuring out how to both ethically and effectively gain information to defend ourselves, and is simply trying to score cheap political points. This is a false dichotomy. Either we torture, or we play pattycake, either we waterboard, or we just send them to bed without supper. Anyone arguing this way is not really being serious about the challenge we face in figuring out how to both ethically and effectively gain information to defend ourselves, and is simply trying to score cheap political points.

]]> By: SmartRemarks » Torture, shame, and people who lack it http://washingtonindependent.com/56259/heres-how-the-cia-can-fudge-the-question-of-whether-torture-worked/comment-page-1#comment-68785 SmartRemarks » Torture, shame, and people who lack it Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:04:43 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=56259#comment-68785 [...] the IG report in particular leaves it …extraordinarily difficult to distinguish between what approaches worked and what didn’t [...] [...] the IG report in particular leaves it …extraordinarily difficult to distinguish between what approaches worked and what didn’t [...]

]]> By: marc http://washingtonindependent.com/56259/heres-how-the-cia-can-fudge-the-question-of-whether-torture-worked/comment-page-1#comment-68339 marc Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:24:26 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=56259#comment-68339 We stole your country dude and your not getting it back. Now go eat a corn dog , watch some Nascar and leave us alone We stole your country dude and your not getting it back. Now go eat a corn dog , watch some Nascar and leave us alone

]]> By: daveinboca http://washingtonindependent.com/56259/heres-how-the-cia-can-fudge-the-question-of-whether-torture-worked/comment-page-1#comment-68312 daveinboca Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:25:00 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=56259#comment-68312 Try spell check & grammar rules, chump. Looks like you infest this thread like a blind termite----looks to a creepy Alinsky clone like you are always tinged with stupidity. Your mistakes aren't honest nor are they even smart. Judging from your name, you're an ethnic creep. Try spell check & grammar rules, chump. Looks like you infest this thread like a blind termite—-looks to a creepy Alinsky clone like you are always tinged with stupidity. Your mistakes aren't honest nor are they even smart. Judging from your name, you're an ethnic creep.

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