Actually, Reagan Wasn’t So Proud of That 1965 Medicare Speech

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Friday, August 21, 2009 at 5:44 pm

In the last month, there’s been a rediscovery of Ronald Reagan’s 1965 recording “Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine.” Sarah Palin deserves a lot of the credit for this; she cited the speech in her 2008 debate with now-Vice President Joe Biden. Something that’s largely been forgotten, though, was that a much more famous Reagan quote — his “There you go again” dismissal of President Jimmy Carter in the 1980 presidential debates–came when Reagan denied that he really meant this, or that he was “opposing the principle of providing care for” seniors in 1965.

The video is below:

The transcript:

ReaganAlbumCARTER: Governor Reagan, as a matter of fact, began his political career campaigning around this nation against Medicare. Now, we have an opportunity to move toward national health insurance, with an emphasis on the prevention of disease, an emphasis on out-patient care, not in-patient care; an emphasis on hospital cost containment to hold down the cost of hospital care far those who are ill, an emphasis on catastrophic health insurance, so that if a family is threatened with being wiped out economically because of a very high medical bill, then the insurance would help pay for it. These are the kinds of elements of a national health insurance, important to the American people. Governor Reagan, again, typically is against such a proposal.

MODERATOR: Governor?

REAGAN: There you go again. When I opposed Medicare, there was another piece of legislation meeting the same problem before the Congress. I happened to favor the other piece of legislation and thought that it would be better for the senior citizens and provide better care than the one that was finally passed. I was not opposing the principle of providing care for them. I was opposing one piece of legislation versus another.

Was Reagan being dishonest in 1965 or 1980? Well, in 1980, he did not want to admit that, had he had his way, there would not have been national health insurance for the elderly. This gets at the reason Republicans are not bending on health care reform; as Reagan often said, government programs, once enacted, were not often rolled back. The unspoken reason, though, was that government programs that provide universal services are pretty popular.

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16 Comments

Duncan Cross
Comment posted August 22, 2009 @ 12:07 am

Was there another bill at the time?

I would hate to think that some of the more noxious opponents of health care reform might try to weasel a decade or two down the road by saying they merely supported the GOP's 'Patient's Choice Act'.


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jjfitz
Comment posted August 22, 2009 @ 6:46 am

Very interesting, I had no idea.


stephenperry
Comment posted August 23, 2009 @ 1:10 am

I remember going with my mother into a voting booth when I was 5 years old, in 1980. My mother was about to pull a lever. I asked her not to vote for Ronald Reagan.

I got an ice cream sundae on the way home.

I knew he was the guy who was trying to sell people the idea that if you give to the rich they will give to the poor.

All you need to do is read Robin Hood to understand how absurd that is. Even children know when they are being lied to.

Now, Republicans, on the other hand, do not. They are to this day trying to name every third government building or airport after Ronald Reagan.

Hello, Democratic generational shift! Goodbye Republican dominance of any political branch!


JimPA
Comment posted August 23, 2009 @ 1:56 am

“I knew he was the guy who was trying to sell people the idea that if you give to the rich they will give to the poor.”

I drank the kool-aid in 84. And it was kool-aid. On a side note: I really like Ron Reagan Jr. He is a great speaker and I tend to agree with him.


Pug
Comment posted August 23, 2009 @ 2:01 am

Was Reagan being dishonest in 1965 or 1980?

Easy question. He was being dishonest in 1980.

I happened to favor the other piece of legislation and thought that it would be better for the senior citizens and provide better care than the one that was finally passed.

Utter, complete BS by St. Ronald the Good.


Pug
Comment posted August 23, 2009 @ 2:02 am

Funny how the kids turn out, isn't it? Ron and Patti are liberals. Only Michael turned out to be a snake.


JimPA
Comment posted August 23, 2009 @ 2:07 am

To me, Ron comes off honest and Michael comes off as just another Republician hack reading talking points.


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brendanm
Comment posted August 23, 2009 @ 7:42 pm

Well, he's adopted.


Matt
Comment posted August 23, 2009 @ 10:14 pm

Reagan won in 1980. If you listened carefully to both of the mentioned clips, you would see less contradiction than is implied here. I wonder why there is no link above to the former one.


wolverstone
Comment posted August 24, 2009 @ 1:12 am

Here's a link that supports the blog's title.
http://www.larrydewitt.net/Essays/Reagan.htm


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