Was Barney Frank’s ‘Nazi’ Questioner a LaRouche Cultist? [UPDATE: Confirmed]

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Wednesday, August 19, 2009 at 10:09 am

Update: Yes, the woman was a LaRouche cultist. The full video is here, and I’ve added her full comments. I’m getting a lot of links to this video today, in which Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) verbally eviscerates a woman waving an Obama=Hitler sign and asking him why he supports “this Nazi policy” of health care reform. To be fair, the evidence suggests that the woman is a supporter of fringe political activist Lyndon LaRouche.

When Frank criticizes the woman’s sign, she holds it up for him, and another activist holds up the same sign.

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Recognize the image? Right: It’s from Lyndon LaRouche’s anti-health care reform web site.

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And here’s what the woman actually said.

I think the administration is missing something in these town hall meetings, which is that it’s not just one group. The economy is collapsing. We have 30 percent real unemployment. Forty-eight states cannot balance their budgets. And they are cutting programs to the bone. This is the context under which the Obama administration has said we need health care reform.

(Applause)

I’m not done. The reason why is because they say we need to limit Medicare expenditures in order to do that, in order to reduce the deficit. That’s the origin of this policy This is the T4 policy of the Hitler, of a Hitler policy in 1939, where he said certain lives are not worth living.

(Crowd noise, including boos and a cry of “Shame on you!”)

Certain people we should not spend the money to keep them alive, which is exactly what Ezekiel Emanuel has said. So my question to you, one, is, this policy is already on its way out, it’s already been defeated by LaRouche. So my question to you is why do you still support this Nazi policy?

Now, people who live in districts like Frank’s, near major universities, are very familiar with the LaRouche people. When they call something “Nazi-like” or compare someone to Hitler, it’s as rare as Paris Hilton saying “that’s hot.” And they do it in this exact way, showing up in numbers and making sure they get to the microphones first. They ran a long “campaign” against Al Gore along these lines, accusing him of wanting to commit genocide, for some reason. Need a sample of how off-kilter this was?

Gore, a notorious racist and radical Malthusian, whose global warming swindle would kill billions of people, if fully implemented, is a British agent, through and through. Never mind that his London-based hedge fund, Generation Fund Management, is at the center of the effort to create a “carbon swap” market, described by one U.S. intelligence source as a “$10 trillion ponzi scheme.”

As I’ve pointed out before, when liberals protested the Iraq War, the small number of anarchists and Communists who showed up to their rallies dominated the coverage. Liberals didn’t get a pass on their associations. Conservatives have been pointing to the presence of LaRouche activists at these town halls to argue that the only people waving “Nazi” signs are LaRouchies. That’s not true, but even if it were true, what would the difference be? This is the second consecutive major political cause where the maniacs of the LaRouche “movement” are finding common cause with mainstream conservatives. In this case, it’s the LaRouche nuts making the case that Democratic health care reform will put old people to death, which is something as many as 45 percent of Americans now believe.

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bullet_park
Comment posted August 19, 2009 @ 5:30 pm

To be fair, the LaRouchites were also anti-Iraq War, and passed out pamphlets at anti-Iraq War events calling Cheney, Wolfowitz and Bush “Children of Satan.”


bdotdub
Comment posted August 19, 2009 @ 6:48 pm

That doesn't really make them look any better. That just makes them seem like they hate everyone


Karl
Comment posted August 19, 2009 @ 7:03 pm

Nice try, David.

As I’ve pointed out before, when liberals protested the Iraq War, the small number of anarchists and Communists who showed up to their rallies dominated the coverage. Liberals didn’t get a pass on their associations.

The MSM went out of its way to avoid covering the radical opponents of the Iraq war.


24AheadDotCom
Comment posted August 19, 2009 @ 8:57 pm

Even years after the initial protests, the LAT was still covering for ANSWER; that was at a protest where an elderly lady on the other side got hit in the head with a full water bottle. For that reason and all the others which I'm not going to bother looking up, Weigel is (once again) misleading his readers.

As for the “cultist”, if she needs some deprogramming let me know.


howiecopywriter
Comment posted August 19, 2009 @ 9:43 pm

Before you complain about LaRouchies ruining your health care party, why not read Ezekiel Emmanuel's article in the British Journal , the Lancet, a well known medical journal in January 2009. There he calls for directing rationing of medical care away from those under 15 and over 40! Is that Nazi or not?

see http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/articl…


narciso
Comment posted August 19, 2009 @ 10:14 pm

Unlike the apochyphal claims of the truthers, there is a real issue of mandating rationing as a budgeting tactic, that said, the protester went about it exactly the wrong way, using polemics rather than facts


generationyloser
Comment posted August 19, 2009 @ 10:22 pm

The very first sentence of the abstract reads “Allocation of very scarce medical interventions such as organs and vaccines is a persistent ethical challenge.”

The key words in there are “very scarce,” as it is what to do when, for example, you've got three dying patients, a single kidney, and a ticking clock.

And, if anything, the entire tone of the article is one of compassion when dealing with very extreme circumstances.


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2sayf
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 1:01 am

Isn't crazy the only thing both sides' crazies agree on is that our black president is a Nazi? The public is getting teabagged here by these nuts and the media who promotes fear-inducing myths. For example…
http://unreasonablysafe.wordpress.com/2009/08/0…


jonwolaver
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 1:13 am

You go Barney. Can you be the lead in the Obama fight for health insuranace reform?


gurdjieff66
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 2:27 am

But the question is…why do so many Republicans agree with LaRouche on this matter.


myleftone
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 2:57 am

This LaRouchie was also at John Tierney's town hall on June 30 to ask roughly the same question. So which district (planet) is she really from?


CristinaY
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 3:09 am

The ignorance of people like the LaRouche cultist Hitler woman never ceases to amaze me. Why do these nonsensical side issues garner so much press? Obama is the opposite of Hitler, but why do we even have to talk about that? Jesse Owens must be wondering what kind of crazies have landed in the US since he left this earth.


howiecopywriter
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 4:44 am

The Ezekiel Emanuel article was not compassionate. It was Nazi health care. Read the whole article. Here are some quotes:
Emanuel sums up who is to be treated, and who is to die:

“When implemented, the complete lives system produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated.” This may be justified by public opinion, since “broad consensus favours adolescents over very young infants, and young adults over very elderly people.”

Emanuel decrees that we must not kill only the elderly, but also infants.

“Strict youngest-first allocation directs scarce resources predominantly to infants. This approach seems incorrect. The death of a 20-year-old woman is intuitively worse than that of a 2-month-old girl, even though the baby has had less life. The 20-year-old has a much more developed personality than the infant, and has drawn upon the investment of others to begin as-yet-unfulfilled projects…. Adolescents have received substantial substantial education and parental care, investments that will be wasted without a complete life. Infants, by contrast, have not yet received these investments…. It is terrible when an infant dies, but worse, most people think, when a three-year-old child dies, and worse still when an adolescent does.”

He proclaims his new “Complete Lives System” to be an advance over previous death-selection systems such as Quality-Adjusted Life Years and Disability-Adjusted Life Years.

He criticizes the random (“lottery”) selection of those to be saved, as based on the supposedly unscientific notion that “each person's desire to stay alive should be regarded as of the same importance and deserving the same respect as that of anyone else.” He claims that this attitude shows “blindness to many seemingly relevant factors. Random decisions between someone who can gain 40 years and someone who can gain only 4 months, or someone who has lived only 20 years, are inappropriate.”
see- http://www.larouchepac.com/node/11188


Don
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 4:51 am

Thank you Barney Frank for taking care of that ignorant lady along with all the right wing wackos, these wackos are a shame to this country. They are the real Nazis, they're only using the Nazi word to substitute it for the N racial word, they are racists who have a problem with Obama's color


midgetswithmullets
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 5:45 am

She should read, “War against the Weak” for a little enlightenment. If you haven't read it, I recommend it to you! Practically, American corporate philanthropists Rockefeller, Carnegie, (even U.S. Pres FDR), & others started the idea of Eugenics where they would create a, “pure”, master race, etc. Over 60,000 Americans were oblivious they had been sterilized in tests in order for them not to be able to reproduce…

Fast Forward – this group goes to share their ideas on Eugenics @ a world summit where a young Hitler is in attendance & the rest is history. “Ethnic cleansing began in America before it ended in Nazi Germany.”

http://www.waragainsttheweak.com – I highly encourage you to look into this book.


kudosdc
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 6:27 am

Nazi? I thought the word “Triage” was French, not German.


Chagnasty
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 6:59 am

As far as that article goes, I think it's a rather weak argument. I mean, it basically just looks at the coverage of 4 anti-Iraq war protests in 2003. Then, from there, it basically says that because there were some radicals there, obviously claims that people who were there were from “all walks of life” are false. Technically, if anything, it supports the claim. If “all walks of life” are represented, then there would of course be radicals AS WELL AS regular people. Now, I'm sure you'll say that wasn't the point, rather that the media was selective to show “leftists” in a positive light and today they're trying to show people against healthcare as crazy. The problem with that argument is concentration of wackos. In any gathering of a group with similar ideas, you tend to focus on the majority of people actively participating. In a protests involving thousands of people in one location or many across the country, while some fringe radicals might show up (and even make a good occasional photo op), the focus is on the majority of people there– namely normal people in the case of massive street protests (and to a lesser extent a massive anti-Iraq war rally). In the case of town halls, you have a much smaller group to sample from. So, when people show up screaming nonsense about death panels, Steven Hawking being euthanized if he were British (which of course he is), and demanding government keep their hands off medicare, they are in a much smaller group and thus constitute a much larger proportion of the people who showed up. If the same number of people showed up at a huge rally consisting of a wide variety of people, they probably would not be focused on (or at least not to the same extent). Add to that taking weapons for no apparent to confront their congresspeople (and then dropping them), and it's impossible to ignore. How many protesters in 2003 were walking around the streets with guns?

The argument of double standard in the Bush-Hitler and Obama-Hitler coverage has a bit more traction. But, again, there is a difference. The line cited people who thought that 9/11 was a plot like the burning of the Reichstag, and that Bush would build a death machine (or some such nonsense). These are conspiracy theories, believed by a small group of people who are largely drowned out by the larger group of sensible people, and were not being pushed as fact by any media outlets or politicians. As opposed to people who wrongly claim that real governmental policies (or proposed policies) are based on Nazi policy and/or are meant to turn the US into Nazi Germany who show up at small gatherings and scream it at the top of their lungs. Not quite the same. As far as the Satan-Hitler-Bush caricature vs. the Obama-Hitler pictures, there's a bit of an argument there that Susan Roesgen did show a bias, but not much beyond that.

As far as the Olbermann quotes go, I don't think they really show anything. I have no particular love for Olbermann, I just view him most of the time as the mirror-mirror version of Bill O'Reiley (though, sans goatee). Though his fire and anger can be useful in countering the extreme energy that nonsense is usually voiced with. Anyways, in the first quote he complains about efforts to silence dissenters from voicing any opinion, and says that political dissent is vital to the country. In the second quote, he compares the people who show up and try to shout down all who disagree with them (including their elected official), spout out proven falsehoods like they were gospel, make absurd and nonsensical comparisons between everyone having health care and the holocaust, and brandish fire arms for no apparent reason at what should be civilized discussions about public policy to terrorists. I don't see what the point of this is. I mean, it might be a tad hyperbolic, but I can see the argument. Certainly, the people who do that are scary. However, nowhere is he saying that everyone who disagrees with the President is a terrorist, and nowhere is he saying that political dissent is suddenly bad. Look, there are plenty of things not to like about the various healthcare proposals, I personally think that the current one is not nearly as good as it could be, but it's better than nothing. There are plenty of legitimate points that can be made, especially when you discuss ideas like privately run co-op health insurance, however there is a difference between civilized, respectful, and thought-provoking discussion and what those people are doing. We need dissent in this country, it's vital, but it needs to be coherant and real not misconceptions.

Lastly, when they're talking about a “clear bias” the author is overreaching. I mean, he cite a total of 5 different sources (of which he uses 3 single-sentence quotes for ABC, and imply that no one who was against the war could be anything but a “leftist”, 1 sentence from CBS, and 1 headline from the Washington post) as his evidence that the entire media is liberal and blindly pro-Obama. Three. Last time I checked, there were a lot more than 5 sources of information. The simple fact is, the number of people who identify themselves as staunchly conservative or Republican is down to a pretty low percentage. Again, as I mentioned when discussing that extremists stand out more when they are a higher percentage, many moderate conservatives have moved away from the Republican party and the angry idea of “conservativism” that has grown in the last several years. So, while there are probably no more conservative extremists today than there were 10 years ago, they do comprise a much larger percentage of those who identify themselves as such. In my book, when the number of shootings jumps so tremendously and stems from basically a particular hard-core conservative mindset, that's scary and it might be worth asking if a sizeable portion of the group is “coming unhinged”. When people show up to a peaceful gathering with firearms and hate filled signs, that is rather similar to “intimidation”, and when those people show up with signs advocating the murder of the President and his family, that might be a reason to ramp up “concerns over the President's personal safety”. I don't think it's at all unreasonable to say “I think some of the people are upset because we have a black President,” because, guess what, some people are upset we have a black President. They didn't say all conservatives or Republicans, but rather that some people who show up and spout nonsense might be upset by the President's race. When JFK was elected, there were some people upset we had a Catholic President. It's unrealistic to not think that at least some of the most militantly anti-Obama people don't like the fact he's black.

The article's alright if you already agree with it, but it's not very convincing to people who aren't already on board. It makes some pretty broad and sweeping claims that are not well backed up by the scant evidence presented. You want to say the entire mainstream media is bias against Bush and for Obama, show some real evidence. If you show me lots of evidence that 3/4 news providers are bias, that's conclusive, that's an argument. If you show me single snipped sentences/headlines, mostly out of context, with author implications that go beyond what the actual quote says from 5 news sources (really more like 2- CNN and Keith Olbermann/MSNBC) that's not an argument, it's not a fact, it's simply a weakly backed up opinion.


Advocate
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 7:29 am

Umm.. You do know that La Rouche is a LEFTIST group in the vein of Marxism, Right?


Carolyn Pena
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 11:03 am

Bravo Mr. Frank for being so bold as to tell it like it is. Anyone making this kind of ridiculous statement is beyond hearing any response one could give. Keep up the good work Barney!


riredinpa
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 11:19 am

Now see, they didn't expect you to actually read the article. Now you've called their bluff and ruined their fun, hope your happy. : D


riredinpa
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 11:20 am

Do you think they all go to church at Westboro Baptist?


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johnvargas
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 12:27 pm

Barney Frank : Great response to a stupid guestion


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Carolyn
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 4:30 pm

Barney rocks! Wish I would see more politicians get a back bone and put some people in their place. Sometimes it is needed to 'call a spade a spade'.


Rickvid_in_Seattle
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 5:22 pm

LaRouche is a BIG proponent of single payer government run health provision. Of course, it is best if it is HIS government running it. 30 years of running for prez and who knows, he juuuuust might come in 25th next time!

Yeah, LaRouch has as much common cause with the conservative movement as Gus Hall and the CPUSA did with the Democratic Party, even if they did support Gore, Kerry and Obama for prez.


April
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 5:31 pm

To say that, since liberal's didn't get a pass for having anarchists and communists show up at their rallies, that conservatives shouldn't get a pass for having these nuts at theirs, is weak-minded thinking. Two examples of irrational thinking don't make either suddenly rational. It's irrational to make the fringe groups representative of everyone, whether you're doing it to liberals or conservatives. Some of us can think with our brains in all situations, regardless of our personal beliefs.

And just to mention, I was against the Iraq war and I'm against Obamacare. Where do I fit in in your neat little schema?


RightMinded
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 5:38 pm

But, when the price of healthcare goes up and the number of new doctor's drop because they cannot make as much profit, are other interventions going to be labeled as “very scarce”? If it is, will Ezekiel Emanuel's complete life plan going to go into effect?


Swift2
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 5:46 pm

Thanks for confirming my suspicion. There was just something fishy about the whole thing, the rhetoric that sometimes sounds commie, sometimes sounds fascist, and never rings true.

Global warming science is also something they demagogue about. The key here is, it leaks over to Inhofe and other crazies in the Republican Party.

The crucial thing is, you can always tell the Larouche cultist if you know the signals. And it's equally obvious that talk of Nazies is NOT limited to them, nor the signs either. Beck makes the comparisons every night, and many of the signs are scrawled with crayon. Not like the Larouchies at all. They're kind of neat freaks, right?


Swift2
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 5:52 pm

That makes you really see the necessity of lowering health care costs NOW, doesn't it? Insurance companies lower costs by not paying benefits, and not accepting people who have a high likelihood of being ill. Sounds pretty Nazi to me — if I wanted to melodramatize the question like Beck.

Most painless way to lower health care costs overnight without rationing care, in fact, by expanding it? Single-payer. Take Medicare's 3% management costs vs United Healthcare's 30%.


Swift2
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 6:06 pm

Just a final thought on the Emmanuel article. The whole article is about how to decide something that is ultimately problematic. (As in, one wishes for the wisdom of Solomon problematic.) If you have twenty livers and 20,000 desperate people, who gets the livers? (And conservatives would most often say, “Let the market decide.” In which case, Steve Jobs gets the liver, right? That would be… rationing for the rich.)

But this is only under conditions of shortage — true enough under present transplant technology, for instance. But any overall shortage of medical care is totally artificial. A gamed market. The insurance companies that don't insure, the AMA that controls the number of medical graduates to keep doctor's salaries high. What health insurance reform is proposing is MORE medical care at the cheapest possible rate. That's the opposite of “Nazism,” and the opposite of rationing.

The only cost-cutting Obama has proposed is to Medicare, and then only as part of the “best practices” kind of evaluations. He talks about this because studying Medicare's bills shows that some counties have a high cost per patient, and indifferent results. Some counties have lower costs and much better results. Why not study the best way to actually treat patients, and make recommendations about best practices? If it's totally clear that treatment x is not effective, who wants to keep it? It may be, in fact, that some expensive care may be recommended as best practice, but less often than you think.


Don
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 7:58 pm

As one who spent many years in “the academy”, as higher education is sometimes referred to, the Emmanuel article is something that is not uncommon. It is not a policy paper, not a position paper, and certainly not anything that would be part of anything relative to the current health care situation.

Essentially, it is a philosophical rumination on a particular situation, which does raise the question of “ethics”. It is, as a commentator has stated, a case of “triage”. One is free to agree or not with the criteria that Emmanuel personally proposes in arriving at a decision, but no one should extrapolate from this discussion anything relative to policy. And certainly not try and artificially transplant it onto some kind of Nazi ideology or practice. For to do so is to fall into the intellectually disingenuous trap of spreading fear for fear's sake.


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Mahony007
Comment posted August 20, 2009 @ 9:08 pm

This is just incredibly vicous bull —-. Where in the devil do these entities come from. I'm not going acknowledge them as human because it would be a gross insult to the reasonable folks on the planet. Perhaps I answered my own question as to where they come from. This is not what the founding fathers were thinking of when they gave citizens the priviledge of free speech. Maybe the Swine Flu will take them out. Swine Flu……., Yes. That fits them exactly as if it was custom fitted. I know that President Obama is strong and vital but he needs to know how the average Joe feels about him. There's a rediculous film named People Of The Corn. These crazies are People Of The Corn. I'm confident that they're NRA memnbers too. God! Please help us and please protect President Obama and his family.


boobooaec
Comment posted August 21, 2009 @ 12:33 am

Finally. It's about time that someone set the record straight with these individuals.

Nazis and socialism and carrying guns around school yards and public places where innocent people are as an intimidation tactic demonstrate that there is a very serious problem with most of those left in the Republican Party. They speak, act and appear to be paranoid and suffering from severe mental health issues.

Beck and Limbaugh and Hannity and Boehner and Grassly, et al, seem to be feeding the the ill-side of these tragically unstable and unwell individuals. There is something really wrong with that and it's about time that someone spoke up. Although, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and O'Reilly all behave on a regular basis as if they suffer from manic depression or borderline personality disorder, which include paranoia and narcisism, so I don't think they'll recognize it in others because they are probably in denial themselves.

I feel bad that it was necessary to call a spade, a spade in public as Congressman Frank did with this woman, but she quite obviously needs phsychological help and maybe she'll get some now. The Republican Party needs to stop feeding the fears of these unstable individuals and actually start working on making sure that good mental health coverage is part of this reform and public option.

I do not intend to be cruel, however, if you watch these individuals at these town halls, their behavior is symptomatic of severe clinical mental health disorders.

The Republicans have abused these individuals to their own end for too long. Mr. Frank, you were absolutely correct in your response. As unkind as it is, sometimes it is necessary to be as direct as you were with those who suffer mental health issues.


philosimphy
Comment posted August 21, 2009 @ 1:49 am

I dunno, the mustache they put on Obama looks more like the worn sported by Oliver Hardy than the one Hitler had
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_and_Hardy
http://static.open.salon.com/files/adolf_hitler…

Almost makes me want to get one of those pics and add in a little bowler to the top of Obama's head and even the catch phrase: “”Well, that's another fine mess you've gotten me into.”" seems to fit.


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Bing
Comment posted August 24, 2009 @ 8:11 pm

Lyndon La Rouche is not a Republican.


boobooaec
Comment posted August 24, 2009 @ 8:22 pm

He's worse, he's mentally unstable.


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chastua
Comment posted August 25, 2009 @ 12:24 pm

if health care reform is defeated then health care costs will probably triple very soon afterwards
making health insurance unaffordable for just about everyone resulting in people literally losing their homes over a broken limb. Those in Congress who voted against it will be held accountable in the mid term elections and will pay the price of ended political careers. They (the wingnut conservatives) know this very well thus the effort to “slow down” the process. The administration is smart to push hard for this bill early because it will certainly pass the second time if not the first. Its a win-win situation for everyone. Don't despair if it doesn't go through the first time. As a veteran I can assure you that the government does indeed know to do health care. What I have expericenced with the VA far exceeds anything I've ever had in the private sector.


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Lynn Fooks
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 4:26 pm

The “reform” after all may be a fake. Because it does not cancel the HMOs in between the insurance companies and the providers — adding 30 to 50 percent to healthcare costs. In my view, healthcare should not be running as a business for profit, when in all actuality its a service. The HMOs must be cancelled in a single payer plan of 10 percent overhead, like Medicare. Eliminate the HMOs to reduce healthcare costs in the billions.


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