Poll: Whites, Southerners, Republicans, Few Others, Trust Fox News

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Monday, August 17, 2009 at 10:15 am

An interesting poll from Daily Kos/Research 2000 asks Americans which of the three main cable news channels they watch. Some hypotheses are confirmed right away: Republicans mostly watch Fox (25 percent of them daily), Democrats mostly watch MSNBC (14 percent of them daily), and independents, who don’t particularly watch anything, mostly gravitate towards CNN.

The biggest swing region in the poll? The South. In Southern states, 46 percent of viewers say that Fox News is “extremely reliable” or “reliable.” Only 6 percent of them say that of MSNBC, compared to 26 percent who say it of CNN, a huge shift from the days when CNN was derided as the “Communist/Clinton News Network.” And non-white viewers really don’t like Fox. Only 5 percent of African-Americans, 11 percent of Hispanics, and 8 percent of other minorities consider the network reliable, while a majority of every one of those groups trusts CNN and sizable pluralities trust MSNBC.

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jabliizvesti
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 4:15 pm

How many people know what Daily Kos is ?And how many of those trust it?


NewsCorpse
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 4:29 pm

The bottom line is something that I've been reporting for years: Most people don't watch any of the cable news channels. The highest rated program on (O'Reilly) on the highest rated cable news net (Fox) has fewer viewers than the lowest rated broadcast network news program (CBS).

O'Reilly draws less than 1% of the American population. It’s also less than World Wrestling Entertainment and SpongeBob SquarePants, By contrast, America’s Got Talent is seen by 12 million viewers – four times O’Reilly’s audience.


peterprinciple
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 5:02 pm

Definitely sounds like a cable news flash to me.

This just in: Many Southerners are reactionary idiots.


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Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 5:46 pm

It is a known fact that Fox News is anti minority.If your black stay back, if u are white you must be right.


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Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 6:42 pm

What is it about Weigel and race-baiting? Meanwhile, if anyone things CNN is reliable see this and the FAX here.


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jammer5
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 7:55 pm

Fox News is the ONLY news that is presented truthfully and without bias. And I'm not white, Republican OR from the south.


Jim B
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 9:16 pm

It should be obvious to everyone, but apparently not.

These news outlets are there to make money, not to tell the truth. Sometimes generating money coincides with telling the truth, often not. They are there to stir the pot and compel you to tune in again so Coke can make you buy more sugar water, so Taco Bell can make you hungry for poor quality food.

The formula is simple. Stir the pot, make people anxious and afraid about the world, and present them a cartoonishly simple summation of the selected stories so even the dumbest in the audience can feel they can follow along. In truth there are only about ten unique news stories; all other news items are told in a style of one of these templates.


Corporations betray America
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 9:58 pm

Oh shut up about the damn birth certificate. You know Bush wasn't elected President in 2000 right? The only reason people are bringing this non-story is because he's a black guy with a non-American sounding name.


Swami_Binkinanda
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 10:57 pm

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!
Fox News is Der Sturmer on crack. If you think Fox News, run by the GOP's pre-Karl Rove election brain trust and populated with racists, junkies and the degenerate flotsam from the world of broadcast television, you have twenty years of schooling before you can challenge Forrest Gump at Trivial Pursuit.


GATXER
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 11:01 pm

Newsdope Reporting??? Yea right.

If almost no one watchs Fox…..why do you spend so much time lying about them? Why does Newshounds need to lie about Fox everyday?

BTW: once again you pimp your own webstie for lies…….yet you bitch about someone else doing it? WTF!


JohnC
Comment posted August 18, 2009 @ 12:02 am

Look, I'm not going to argue here that CNN and MSNBC aren't without their own particular slants. But it is simply nonsensical to argue that Fox News has no bias. Have you ever glanced at the Fox-controlled and heavily promoted FoxNation site, or the stories that Fox promotes versus those it ignores? And as for Fox News' propensity for “truthful” reporting of the news, there are dozens of examples that speak to the contrary.

Please tell me you're not that gullible.


Jelperman
Comment posted August 18, 2009 @ 3:06 am

Faux News: Unfair and Unbalanced.


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Tuci78
Comment posted August 18, 2009 @ 10:20 am

Not possible. Though I personally prefer Fox to the other drive-by media (I find their presentations less disgustingly, horribly “Liberal” than those on the other broadcast propaganda channels), I'm always conscious of bias. Just selecting which news items to present out of the day's or week's happenings (domestically or internationally) imposes a definite and unavoidable bias.

And truth necessarily involves not only factuality but also completeness. Given both the highly compressed “news cycle” and the unavoidable lacunae imposed by the fact that news broadcasts must necessarily work in media res, completeness is really impossible.

These journalism school products – not the sharpest tools in the shed by any means, and you'd know that if you'd spent any time with any of them during your days in college – do the best they can in the time they're allowed and within the political constraints imposed upon them by producers and other management parasites, almost all of whom (even at Fox) tend strongly to settle on the “Right-Left” pseudoscale about three sigma to the sinister side of V.I. Lenin.

With Fox News as with all the other providers of such content, you've got to “Trust, but verify.” Don't take anything they give you uncritically.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 18, 2009 @ 10:27 am

They're going for the “eyeballs” their sponsors want to capture, while at the same time leveraging their own biases – and no human being can exist without some bias, like it or not – to maximize “eyeball capture” among the desired market segments. In this regard, this is working to their strength, and is in no way a liability.

It's obvious that the formula works for Fox News, and if that doesn't appeal to you, then obviously you're not among the demographic groups toward whom they're structuring their programming. They don't particularly need you, they don't particularly want you, and you're perfectly free to watch something else.

Laissez-faire, laissez-aller, laissez-passer.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 18, 2009 @ 10:30 am

Ah, but they're taxpaying “reactionary idiots.” Always have been.

Very valuable bunch of “ants,” and therefore vitally necessary to the economic “grasshoppers” who make up the core constituencies of the National Socialist (formerly “Democrat”) Party.

If you Obamaphiles can't keep these “Southerners” producing and helpless as your victims, you're SOL, ain'tcha?


Dusty
Comment posted August 18, 2009 @ 2:27 pm

If they are without bias, why did they feel the need to go to court so that they could continue to lie to their viewers? (of course they call it freedom of speech).

http://www.ceasespin.org/ceasespin_blog/ceasesp…

The one thing that the GOP does well is to *stay-on-message* so as to perpetuate the lies and make them believable.


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markr10
Comment posted August 19, 2009 @ 1:41 am

Typical right wing fantasy (you can't be right wing unless you're rich or in a fantasy world):

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0923084.html

Red states are more often net consumers of federal tax expenditures not providers. Texas and Georgia are the only ones paying more than their getting and not by much. California and New York, those reviled liberal states, are much better.


mscir
Comment posted August 19, 2009 @ 7:17 am

They should have asked me, I don't trust any of them. Number one, you have to read books, a lot of them, to get a solid foundation, you need to know the history of how we got here, and how governments behaved in the last few decades at least. Then scour the internet, and you'll get a much more realistic picture than the news presents.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 19, 2009 @ 8:52 am

Tracks income and other direct taxes. Not indirect taxes (excises, and so forth) paid.

Also, looking at federal expenditures on military and naval spending is deceptive (deliberately or inadvertently) because such expenditures are fundamentally consumption.

Money spent in the DoD budget is, in almost every way, bled from investment in the productive sector of the economy and stuffed down a rat hole. Might be necessary at the moment to keep down the rats, but it's still gone from the economy, and when those military facilities, hardware, and so forth are purchased, much of what those investments represent are nothing but scrap metal, blank concrete, abandoned buildings, or picturesque artificial reefs accessible only to SCUBA divers.

That the southern states get the majority of “investment” in DoD budget can be explained both by longstanding incumbencies among rural congresscritters (pork) and the better climate to be found in the southern states, which maximizes training cycle utility. Look at Ft. Benning, Ft. Bragg, Ft. Stewart, Ft. Rucker, Ft. Hood, Camp Lejeune, Camp Pendleton, Ft. Irwin – and then look at Ft. Drum, Ft. Dix, Ft. Indiantown Gap, etc.

Dunno if Ft. Lewis (Washington State) can really be counted as “northern,” really. Very much more a “country” place than “rock-and-roll.” Thoughts on that?

But mostly, yeah, it's the pork effect.

Subtract the DoD budget from those “federal tax expenditures” and see what you get.

There are more ways to lie than just plain prevarication.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 19, 2009 @ 9:24 am

Depends on the books themselves, too. In my father's generation, they were steered to Keynes and Samuelson and very carefully steered away from von Mises and von Hayek and Henry Hazlitt. The result was some damned bad economic reasoning, some catastrophically bad economic policies, and the “business cycle” of boom and bust in which we constantly find ourselves.

There are some damned bad ideas in many of those books, and if you don't read widely, it's perhaps best that you don't read at all.


luther blissett
Comment posted August 19, 2009 @ 6:33 pm

What is it about 24Ahead and race-hatred?


jupitor
Comment posted September 3, 2009 @ 2:03 am

The only reason Fox is more important to the people in the southern states for news, is because cable offers Fox news channel, an not cnn,msnbc. If you don't have dish or direct, you go cable. The southern states seem to be a step behind in a lot of those states. That's also why Fox is viewed or polled to be watched more, deep in the south. Even in Nebr. we seem to get Fox news more on cable, if that is all that you can afford. now dish an direct is in compitition in Nebr. more, we can afford it over the poorer choice of local calbe. Fox is a joke, though! I laugh at the out right lie's on Hannity and when they have Rush or Karl Rove on there. Any one who doesn't know by now that Fox is nothing but sationalism, like the jerry springer show, has had their head buried in the sand far to long. It it does make for good laughs, if you don't take anything they say seriousely or for the trueth.


Tuci78
Comment posted September 3, 2009 @ 8:22 am

Unlikely. Remember, this is a survey regarding relative trust, and qualifying as a study subject necessitates exposure to the other selections, including CNN and MSNBC.

It's not that the survey participants in the southern states could “be a step behind,” but rather that they know the MSM news options you prefer, and trust them less than you do.

The common tendency for “Liberals” is to regard non-”Liberals” as thoughtless yokels, or “reactionaries,” people who do not embrace government-as-Santa-Claus because they're not as smart as you conceive yourself to be. This is rather more an indication of your own willful ignorance than any failing on their part.

Ever consider that these people know something – a great many “somethings” – that you don't?


T22
Comment posted March 8, 2010 @ 3:01 pm

Please people, face facts. Fox News has a good news operation and a right leaning opinion lineup. MSNBC has a left leaning operation from top to bottom. CNN is pretty much in the middle, maybe a little left lean with some of its folks. If you watch some of each, you may learn something, at least enough to ask questions of the stories you see on any channel. If you get your “news” from Sean Hannity or Keith Olbermann, you're uninformed and can't be taken seriously.


Patinoelaine
Comment posted July 27, 2010 @ 12:39 pm

So tell us genius, what do these people know? They seem to believe in the same things people believed in a century ago when we all knew nothing and relied on bias, folk stories and religion to form our opinions. Few people read books or even could if they wanted to since they were barely educated, if at all. They seem to think anyone with any kind of smarts is a commie or socialist. I bet none of them ever even read the Communist Manifesto and would say “I don't have to read about it to know what it is”. Well, I never read Mein Kampf but I know a NAZI mentality when I see it. It is the mentality of people who are easily politically manipulated to do things against their own best interest by the use of scapegoating and lies.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 27, 2010 @ 12:54 pm


On what do arrogant “Liberals” and similar adherents of statism (government-as-Santa-Claus) predicate their positions? Superior experience in the address of real-world challenges? The successful address of adversities or opportunities?

Or instead do these creatures find solace in superficial familiarity with catastrophically failed collectivist theories, such as those found in The Communist Manifesto?

Nobel laureate F.A. von Hayek once observed that there appeared to be good reason for average people – who tend reliably to be culturally conservative – to adhere to traditional standards, practices, and values if for no other reason than that these generally have withstood “trial by fire” in various kinds of upset and dislocation.

The principle of least effort (a robust biological imperative) dictates that people with a great deal of “hands-on” experience in the living of life will stick with guidances that have been proven in practice, and are less susceptible to seductively-couched fraudulences that fly in the face of practical experience and common sense.

The “Liberal,” being a denizen of cloud-cuckoo land, tends to lack such practical experience in the living of life, and without such schooling is sadly susceptible to the sorts of idiocies by which he is commonly (and catastrophically) “politically manipulated to do things against [everyone's] best interest by the use of scapegoating and lies.”

Like all other pathologies, the disease of statism can only be examined with a certain dread fascination. Sick sonzabitches, you people, no?


Rusty
Comment posted December 3, 2010 @ 9:30 pm

Clearly you got your facts wrong about what cable tv in the south offers . I’m from SC and we get Msnbc, Fox and CNN. But I agree that Fox is more of a perspective than a news channel.


Rusty
Comment posted December 3, 2010 @ 9:33 pm

Daily KOS is Way too liberal I agree Same deal with the lunatic fringe Wall Street Journal since Murdoch took it over


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