Ron Paul’s Army Complicates GOP 2010 Hopes

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Thursday, August 13, 2009 at 6:07 am
Rand Paul and Peter Schiff (YouTube)

Rand Paul and Peter Schiff (YouTube)

He’s had a sympathetic CNN interview, a Fox News radio hit, a write-up in U.S. News & World Report, stories from The Associated Press and stories in all the local papers. The first week of Rand Paul’s campaign for a U.S. Senate seat from Kentucky — he announced his bid Aug. 5 — has drawn the sort of coverage most first-time candidates wouldn’t dream of.

“I don’t think I could have scripted it better than it’s gone so far,” said Paul, speaking to TWI from his home in Bowling Green. “It helps being related to somebody famous. I don’t hide that fact. I also think that this will be one of the top two or three Senate races in the country, and people are going to keep on paying attention.”

Image by: Matt Mahurin

Image by: Matt Mahurin

The “famous person” who’s gotten the press interested in Paul’s campaign is his father, Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), whose gadfly libertarian-themed campaign for the 2008 Republican nomination garnered $35 million in campaign contributions won him more than one million votes, and elevated his critiques of the welfare state and the post-Bretton Woods monetary system from late-night speeches on C-SPAN to regular appearances on cable news. One year after Paul bowed out of the 2008 presidential race, his network of supporters, without having to waste their time on the impossible goal of winning a presidential nomination, are picking smaller targets. By showing up at town halls, they’re getting more attention as health care critics than they did as supporters of a quixotic White House candidate.

And they’re backing candidates like Rand Paul, whose quest for a Senate seat, in a conservative state, with a now-established political brand, is more plausible. On Aug. 20, thousands of people — 1,700 have already committed — are being encouraged to donate to the younger Paul’s campaign in a “moneybomb” modeled after the single-day events that raised $5 million and $6 million for his father during the 2008 campaign. On Aug. 7, Connecticut investor Peter Schiff, a libertarian who manages Euro Pacific Capital, who advised Paul in his presidential bid, and has never run for office, raised $350,000 with a similar, web-driven campaign, pushing his total since launching an exploratory committee to $800,000. The effort got a boost from the Texas congressman himself, who told the members of his massive e-mail list that “our country needs Peter Schiff in Washington,” and that they could “go to www.Schiffathon.com right now and make a contribution.” The day that Rand Paul launched his campaign with a New York fundraiser, both candidates appeared on the Fox Business Channel; hours later, Schiff stopped by the fundraiser to make a donation.

“People got to know Rand during his father’s campaign,” explained Trevor Lyman, a web programmer who helped launch the Ron Paul campaign moneybombs and is working on the August 20 effort. “Peter Schiff and Rand Paul are both capable of attracting national media attention, and people think we have a chance to win in both races.”

The support of Ron Paul’s army for these two candidates puts Republicans in a potentially difficult spot. Kentucky, where Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) is retiring, and Connecticut, where Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) is dogged by ethics scandals, are seen as must-hold and must-win seats for the GOP, respectively. The party has favored candidates in both races, both of whom have held elective office — Secretary of State Trey Grayson in Kentucky, and former congressman Rob Simmons in Connecticut. So far, Grayson has raised more than $600,000 for his campaign, and Simmons has raised $754,000. Both candidates face the likely possibility of spending heavily to defeat libertarian-leaning candidates before they can go on to their general elections.

Some Republicans are dismissive of the Paul-backed Senate candidates. “Yes, Schiff is going to raise a ton of money, just like Ron Paul,” said one Connecticut Republican strategist. “He has a cultish following based on one video of him, like a broken clock, saying something gloomy about the economy that was later proven right. But how many of the people who’ll give him money live in Connecticut?”

The same criticism came from Roy Occhiogrosso, a Democratic consultant. “He has one claim to fame, that he said some things that happened to come true,” said Occhiogrosso. “That doesn’t make a U.S. senator.”

The video in question is a YouTube clip titled “Peter Schiff was right!” which went online days before the 2008 election and has clocked nearly 1.5 million views. The video spliced together clips of Schiff pessimistically talking about “sky-high real estate prices coming back to earth,” and predicting that “most of the profits people have in real estate are going to vanish,” recorded during the height of the housing boom. Andrew Schiff, the candidate’s brother and his media manager until an official campaign decision comes “in about two weeks,” argued that the video, and all of his brother’s economic commentary, is just proof that he’s closer to the Republican base than the party’s leadership.

“Peter wants to make the race about economics,” said Schiff. “The issues that he talked about then are going get a lot of lip service from the other Republicans in the race. They’ll say they agree with him, but they’re not as ‘extreme.’ Most Republicans talk a good game, and then they get into office and spend like Democrats.”

Early polling has not shown any support for Schiff, who would have to get through a state party convention and a primary open to independent voters to claim the Republican nomination. Rand Paul, who has closer political ties to Kentucky that Schiff does in Connecticut — Paul founded an anti-tax group, Kentucky Taxpayers United, in 1994 — is seen as more likely to drive the debate in his state’s primary, and more likely to upset the party’s preferred candidate. Jesse Benton, who is doubling as a spokesman for Ron and Rand Paul, suggested that Grayson had the weaker Republican credentials in the race, because as a college student in 1996 he’d been a delegate for President Bill Clinton.

“There are a lot of Kentuckyans who voted for Bill Clinton twice and then turned around and voted for George W. Bush and John McCain,” said Scott Jennings, a Kentucky Republican strategist. “As long as Grayson’s core message is lower taxes, limited government, opposition to cap and trade, opposition to the Democrats’ health care reform; as long as he jibes with the GOP primary voting bloc he’ll be fine.”

Democrats aren’t so sure that a more ideologically conservative campaign would help Grayson in the long run. Some hope that a well-funded Paul campaign, even if it didn’t upset Grayson, would weaken the nominee in the general election. “You’re going to see Grayson trying to get to the right of Rand Paul, and I don’t think he can do that,” said Mark Guilfoyle, a Kentucky Democratic strategist. “That’s a nightmare scenario for them. Whoever comes out of the primary is going to be very, very far to the right. I wouldn’t say Rand Paul would be easier to beat — either situation is going to be good for us.”

Back at home, making the first real hiring decisions of the campaign, Rand Paul dismissed all of that, and dismissed the idea that support from out-of-state members of Ron Paul’s army will hurt him as “jealousy” from the party elite. “There’s a disconnect between primary voters and the party’s leadership,” said the younger Paul. “I don’t think Trey Grayson has a clue as to what that disconnect is. We hear that there are people who control the reins of power, and that they’ve got the party workers locked up, but I see so many new friends and faces wherever we go. We’re peeling them off in droves.”

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emilyzee
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 12:07 pm

Hm, I don't know if you'll even read this, but I am the individual who you unceremoniously insulted then blocked this morning on twitter.

It feels a bit odd to even admit to being insulted on twitter.

Anyway.

Since I couldn't apologize to you on twitter, as I'd wanted, I am doing so here.

My comment was made solely in jest, and I did not mean to offend you. I didn't respect a response, much less a block. I am a big fan of your writing, and enjoy reading your tweets. I guess my mistake was commenting on one.

So, I apologize, for what it's worth.


emilyzee
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 12:09 pm

*expect, not respect. I have only had one coffee this morning, leave me alone. :)


emilyzee
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 12:14 pm

Hm. Any communication I try to get through to you seems to not work. I suppose this is intentional.

Anyway, again, I am deeply sorry to have offended you, my comment was meant solely in jest, and I did not expect such a harsh response, much less any response.

So, I'm sure I'll keep reading what you write, as I've been a fan for a while.

Good luck to you.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 12:53 pm

Either the Republican Party becomes what it has never truly been – a party advocating the genuinely conservative, genuinely constitutionalist, genuinely libertarian, genuinely Jeffersonian principles of fiscal responsibility, sound currency, free trade, and individual rights – or it becomes an irrelevancy.

Just another wing of the big, “bipartisan,” incestuous Boot-On-Your-Neck Party.

Peter Schiff, Ron Paul, Rand Paul, and their political supporters are either the future of the Republican Party or the Republican Party has no future.


“A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities.”

– Thomas Jefferson


D. Smith
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 1:44 pm

Honest government that sticks to the constitution. Rand Paul.


Cedric Harris
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 2:24 pm

You media folks are fucking dicks. We're taking this country back, stop crying about it. I've got your quixotic hangin' right here.


Mr. Shady
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 3:02 pm

This is the problem right here:

“You’re going to see Grayson trying to get to the right of Rand Paul, and I don’t think he can do that,”

Anybody that tries to beat Rand or his father have to maneuver and mold their beliefs and ideologies to look better than the Pauls. They stick to their guns and do not waver because what they say is what they mean. It IS their beleif and it IS their ideology. The problem with changing your beliefs (stances/platforms/etc) is we've seen SO much of it in the last score of years from the Clintons, Bushes and now Obama, that a lot of us are aware of it. This country has forgotten the saying, “Actions speak louder than words”.

Ideology is not a bad word, there's just many forms of ideology and most of them are bad.


PJ Mcflur
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 3:15 pm

Dismissive or Sarcastic? Either way it seems the writer doesnt have much faith in Pauls army of folks. Regardless, we arent going anywhere and our base continues to grow. Movements take time. Goldwater didnt win the White House but Reagan was brought there by a grassroots army.

Peace. Sound Money. Cutting Government Spending and respect for our Liberty and Constitution. Principled Leadership.

That is a winning combination.


Mark
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 3:54 pm

Consider in this “original” constitution I would be a slave, you'll forgive me if I'm not that much in love with that idea.


thrashertm
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 3:56 pm

We need Peter Schiff and Rand Paul desperately in the Senate. They will be true to limited government principles and individual liberty – unlike the current batch of big-government corrupt politicians that call themselves Senators.


PainfullyAware
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 4:39 pm

Are You Really That Mentally Minuscule To Think That “We The People” Would Want To Go Back To The Constitution and The First Amendment Only?

Slavery Does Not Always Involve Shackles. Financial Slavery Is Currently The Burden.

What We Are About Is “Containing The Federal Government” To Its Role Mandated By The Constitution.


republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 5:08 pm

Please explain in detail where the country went in 8 months


republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 5:10 pm

If we “stuck” to the constitution, black folks would still be slaves considered half a person, women would not have the right to vote, blacks would not have the right to vote…..Grow up asshole


martianstupidity
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 5:41 pm

You ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you?

The constitution was amended in 1865, or hadn't you heard?


constitutionalrepublic
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 6:30 pm

Are you (RS and Mark) completely mentally retarded? No where in the constitution at the time it was being ratified approved or disapproves each colonies right to govern itself in matters of slavery, because each state is sovereign, and thus each state had its own laws outlawing slavery or approving of it, for your information most of the colonies at that time had already abolish slavery before the constitution was even made let alone ratified, and those states after ratification that had slaves had less then 5% of its population as owners of slaves, because the majority disapproved of slavery it was only a matter of time before the practice or benefit was abolish.

The constitutional government that most libertarians talk about is a limited government, that follows the powers delegated by the constitution, and not some made up powers to manage every aspect of our life’s, but you wouldn’t know anything about that since you obviously don’t know what is written in the federal constitution let alone your own states constitution, I guess the “guberment” taught you well at being an idiot, the constitution of the united states was not made to restrain its people, it was made to restrain the government from obtaining to much power, but again you wouldn’t know anything about that since you are an ignoramus.

On the voting issue, today we have people who are ill inform, misinform and have a complete lack of knowledge on history, issues and truth in our political system, I sometimes ask myself why do people even vote if all they do is vote for who can dance better out of the two candidates, or vote for the lesser of two evils.

We live in a federal constitutional republic, not a democracy, and as long there are people like me, we will keep our republic!

“I would remind you, that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.” – Barry Goldwater


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Peon
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 7:16 pm

Where the fuck did you get the “original” from? There are things called “amendments” which are part of the constitution. “Going back to the constitution” implies actually following it, including the amendments that it has.

Idiot.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 8:28 pm

Hi, stupidity. The U.S. Constitution now includes the 13th Amendment.

So go back and get your head “stuck” where you normally keep it.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 8:30 pm

Ooh, naughty word! Don't use the “f-bomb” or Mr. Wiener (Assistant Editor, The Washington Independent) will send you an email and begin taking your posts off the board.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 8:40 pm

Pompous (adventitious) capitalization is not necessary.

And, yea, “We the People” decided to ratify the Constitution – after some pretty hefty debate, and only with the guarantee that the Bill of Rights would get stuck in there immediately after ratification – for “our” own protection, to protect against the sort of central government that the Revolution had been fought to throw off.

If there is “Slavery” in America today, it is financial slavery imposed upon “We the People” by those public servants in government who have grown accustomed to lording over us as our civil masters. Your mortgage company, the various utilities companies, your employer – these do not “enslave” you.

But civil government? Directly ripping off big chunks of your paycheck? Burying ever-increases in your utility bills, which must be passed along to bleed you? “Hidden” rip-offs mulcted your employer – which do make up a big a part of your compensation package, and which your employer would be a helluva lot happier to hand you, in cash, rather than pay it to the government? That mortgage company which has been required by federal “share the wealth legislation to lend to “sub-prime” customers, and therefore has to charge you higher interest rates as compensation, or they go under?

Web search Frederic Bastiat's essay “That Which is Seen and That Which is Not Seen.” It's all over the 'Net. Read it. Figure it out.

It would be a dangerous delusion were a confidence in the men of our choice to silence our fears for the safety of our rights… Confidence is everywhere the parent of despotism. Free government is founded in jealousy, and not in confidence. It is jealousy and not confidence which prescribes limited constitutions, to bind down those whom we are obliged to trust with power… Our Constitution has accordingly fixed the limits to which, and no further, our confidence may go… In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 9:42 pm

Grayson can't “get to the right of Rand Paul” because Dr. Paul (this one's an ophthalmologist) isn't to the right. Not really.

While Rand Paul is sufficiently religious in his personal life to suit the religious right, and is (like his father, the obstetrician in the family) anti-abortion, he's not about to institute the sort of federal pregnancy police the rabid “pro-life” putzes would really like to have. His desire is to send it back to the states, and let the issue be decided at that level.

No “one size fits all.” And women can certainly cross state borders to get their pregnancies terminated if that's their desire.

But when you consider “the right” as empowering and using the federal government to play the “Stern Father” role (the left wants a combination of “Nurturing Mommy” and Santa Claus), Rand Paul – like just about all libertarians – conceives of the average citizen as an adult.

A competent moral agent, capable of taking responsibility for (and controlling) himself.

Self-government, to get Marshall Fritz on the subject.

And having an ideology simply means that you're consciously aware of your ideas, what they're based upon, and where they're likely to lead you. This frequently means that you have examined the excuses for “ideology” your political opponents are pushing, and count them of less worth than used bathroom tissue.

Guys like Grayson can't run an issues-based (or ideology-based) campaign against Rand Paul, first because they don't really understand libertarianism – it's noxious, alien, horrible to them (“What? No pork? Argh!”) – second because they have no ideology.

Not really.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 9:44 pm

Actually, the speechwriter who gave General Goldwater that line was Karl Hess.

A libertarian.


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 9:54 pm

Sorry, it's the corporate interests that enslave. They do so by lobbying government to do their bidding. They provide a majority of the cash all R's and D's use and in turn laws are passed and chits called in so corporations can continue to abuse the little guy. One only needs to look at the credit card or healthcare industries to see the unfair practices used to enslave all of us.


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 9:57 pm

I vote no future because there arn't enough loony libertarians that are palatable enough to the masses to be elected to anything other than small government (mayors, city councils, and possibly some state house seats)


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 10:03 pm

They cannot be elected without kowtowing to somebody because somebody has to foot the cost of running a campaign. It sure as hell isn't gonna be GrandMa and her $10 donations to Paultard Nation.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 10:27 pm

Well, it's “the corporate interest that enslave” only because the corporate clowns can buy (or rent) the economically valuable (highly valuable) ability of the government goons to screw with the marketplace.

They call it a “free market” when it's free of politicians and bureaucrats “picking winners” for their cronies and “contributors” and relatives.

Get rid of government interference in that marketplace – curtail the powers of the “Malevolent Jobholder” to screw the competition and the consumers for the benefit of the well-connected – and though the greed never goes away (it's human nature, after all), the ability of the “corporate interests [to] enslave” sure as hell does.

Don't go after “the corporate interests” (in the process destroying the engines of productivity and real wealth in our society). Go after the government, the overblown and blood-gutted parasite draining and killing the American body politic.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 10:32 pm

Not “palatable” to you, certainly. But “to the masses”? That remains to be seen.

When “the masses” get sufficiently fed up with the damages done by socialists like Barry Soetoro, and it is no longer possible for them to evade responsibility for the horrors they inflict, if there are people in the public arena who simply say “You're an adult. It's time you were treated as one, and understand how you have to behave like one”….

I suspect they'll find it sufficiently refreshing as a change from the Red Party/Blue Party bumfodder they've had shoved down their throats.

Most Americans are financially and socially conservative. The Republicans and the National Socialists haven't ever once offered them that kind of conservatism in either pseudoparty's political practices and policies.

Let's see what they do when such an option is offered.


blitz120
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 10:36 pm

Actually, even here it is the government that does the enslaving; reduce the power of government and one reduces the power of the “corporate interests”. Those who look to government to “reign in” large corporations neglect to note this.


Thomas
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 11:17 pm

By “we” he meant conservative, Ron Paul Republicans, rather than liberal “neoconservative” Republicans like GB. “We” have been out of power for almost 100 years. Each president has seized more power for himself and his office, while each congress has expanded their control over the nation's money. It's about time that came to an end. The people of this country are adults, and we want the control back.


VegasBD
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 11:44 pm

Nope, it will be funded by people like me. A very normal 31 year old IT Manager living in california giving $2400 to each of these candidates as well as taking leave of my work to help the campaigns if asked. We will get called paultards the whole time and all the media pundits and ignorant blogger commenters will say we all live in our mothers basements…and we wont care.


VegasBD
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 11:47 pm

Thats where you are mistaken. Most of us Ron Paul followers hate the neocon republicans just as much as you do. But the two party system does not allow a serious 3rd party candidate to run and be taken seriouesly and allowed in the debates. Hell, sometimes Paul wasnt even allowed in republican debates!


VegasBD
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 11:50 pm

Thats why amendments are allowed to be created and withdrawn. I suggest YOU grow up and reread the const and learn the difference between a republic and a democracy.


nexus974
Comment posted August 14, 2009 @ 1:41 am

I just love hearing the GOP establishment referring to us as irrelevant.

Dear GOP,
We are NOT going away! Get used to it!


nexus974
Comment posted August 14, 2009 @ 1:50 am

Try reading the Constitution before you denigrate it.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 14, 2009 @ 3:09 am

Even before there was a Republican Party, the principle policies of this faction in American politics (first called Federlists, then called Whigs, and finally settling out as Republicans) has been – in the words of Abraham Lincoln's 1832 stump speech in New Salem, Illinois:

Fellow Citizens, I presume you all know who I am. I am humble Abraham Lincoln. My politics are short and sweet like the old woman's dance. I am in favor of a national bank. I am in favor of the internal improvement system and a high protective tariff. If elected, I shall be thankful; if not, it will be all the same.

Okay, parse that out.

1) A “national bank” is what we've got in the Federal Reserve System. The difference between a national bank such as was desired by the Whigs (which was Lincoln's political party in 1832) and a private-sector bank is that the exclusive purpose of a national bank was to issue fiat currency. A more familiar term for “fiat currency” is counterfeit money. Currency without gold or silver in the vaults to back it. Currency that looks like real money, has the federal government's endorsement on it, but has no real value beyond the paper and ink to print it. The issue of fiat currency is called “inflation” (no, inflation is not “rising prices;” rising dollar-denominated prices is a consequence of currency inflation, not a cause).

2) The “internal improvement system” of the Whig/Republican platform is what we call PORK today. Alaska's “bridge to nowhere.” Congresscritter Murtha's humongous almost unused airport (named after himself) in Johnstown, PA. Senator Byrd's grabby decades-long effort to move all federal civil service jobs into West Virginia and to fill his state with pork-a-licious “internal improvements” funded by the taxpayers of the other 49 states. Note that the National Socialist (usta be “Democrat”) party picked up on the Republican practice and

3) By “high protective tariff,” Lincoln meant a tax upon imports that would raise the prices of goods in these taxed categories across the board. This meant that American manufacturers (who had “contributed” heavily to the Whig/Republican politicians, and still do) would be able to charge American consumers as much as the equivalent foreign good would cost including the cost of that tariff. This was supposed to “protect” our infant manufacturing industry. Aw! Protecting infants! Who could argue with that? Well, what this meant was that these Whig/Republican-”protected” manufacturers could charge honking big profits without suffering significant competition that might've forced them to work more cost-effectively. The American consumer was just stuck there, bent over Lincoln's split-rail fence, to be schtupped up the tochus by Lincon's “contributors.”

Those three gouging horrors – a national bank, the internal improvements bilge, and high protective tariffs – comprised what was called “the American System,” originally pushed by Alexander Hamilton (thank you, Aaron Burr, but couldn't you have done it sooner?) and taken up by Lincoln's party leader, Henry Clay. Look it up.

This is what the Republican Party has been forever. Never changed. Occasionally, you'd get some real fiscal conservatives in there – people who would've been called “solid gold” or Bourbon Democratsnot Republicans – in the last couple of decades of the 19th Century – but the Republicans have never been fiscally responsible. Never. Not once. Not even by accident.

Read Wilson's “The Republican Charade: Lincoln and His Party” sometime. Very concise, very explicit, very nasty.

If you want the “GOP” to become truly conservative, you're gonna have to take it over, purge all the RINOs and the “true to their roots” real Republicans (the corrupt, predatory sons-of-random-fathers), and rebuild the party from the inside out.

You want to get it started? I'd be happy to help.


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billturnercpaesq
Comment posted August 14, 2009 @ 4:58 am

People like me will give the money. I have never contributed to any political cause but I am ready to jump in the ring. As a CPA/Attorney I understand what is ahead of us if things don't start changing. The more Republicans and Democrats, the more suffering. Not kids and grandkids, baby boomers are going to suffer more than anyone.


billturnercpaesq
Comment posted August 14, 2009 @ 5:01 am

Republicanstupidity – you are a racist!


Henri1
Comment posted August 14, 2009 @ 5:35 am

Labels! Labels! repub.dem's blah blah blah, If we dont come together as Freedom Loving Americans NOW! It will be to late.


brodybrohams
Comment posted August 14, 2009 @ 8:50 am

Here they go again with the standard smear/hit pieces, belittling, and personal, infantile attacks. The “front runners” haven't even started campaigning yet and the media is already announcing the groomed establishment winners, which is basically an announcement that the election is rigged. We're all used to this from Ron Paul's presidential campaign so it's nothing new, but the difference now is that we're more organized and will probably raise more money than the “front runners”. This is also a major test for the freedom movement, if we can recapture a Senate seat, then congressional seats will fall like dominoes as the base gets energized and expands and people realize that having real representatives in DC is not just a fantasy and that peaceful revolution is attainable.


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republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 14, 2009 @ 3:08 pm

It's call FACTS asshole1 It's called the TRUTH dumbass……Facts mean nothing to your dumbass stupid!


republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 14, 2009 @ 3:09 pm

Same to you bb brain if you need help with the big words don't be ashamed to ask


republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 14, 2009 @ 3:10 pm

TUSSY the idiot moron who knows nothing Put you hand down asshole no one cares what the retard section thinks


Tuci78
Comment posted August 14, 2009 @ 8:47 pm

When have the elections ever not been rigged?

The professional politicians of the big, bipartisan Boot-On-Your-Neck Party (Republican and National Socialist wings) cannot campaign on issues or ideology because the real issues are toxic to them (“Fiscal responsibility? But where's the graft?“) and if the average voter leaned their true idiologies, those “town hall meetings” would turn – literally – into lynchings.

We'd just haul 'em out and string 'em up, Red Party, Blue Party, DEAD Party.

So they've got to go after the advocates of individual rights and lawful government “with the standard smear/hit pieces, belittling, and personal, infantile attacks.”

For the BOYN Party rape artists, the ideal voter is one who's just barely smart enough to grope his way into a voting booth, and yet too stupid to know that the “mainstream” isn't going to give him any real choice.

Hey, it's worked for them so far. We just have to see that it doesn't work for them any more.


Ordinary_Taxpayer_Joe
Comment posted August 15, 2009 @ 2:10 am

Sorry, no one can complicate or bruise a gop any longer!
It is “grand obsolete party” as of 2006, therefore it is NO LONGER credible!
Thank goodness…

Give US a party of the “American Spirit & Principal” and that we might consider…

RIP gop…


Ruben
Comment posted August 15, 2009 @ 3:32 am

two comments:
1. Freedom is the right choice.
2. Peter Schiff didn't just make a few lucky predictions on one youtube video. That one Youtube video that became so popular, wasn't made by Schiff but was a string of several videos where he predicted exactly what was going to happen (that now has happened) and why. He didn't just get lucky. Peter has countless videos explaining why he said things were going to happen the way they did and most of those reasons were a result of bad management in Washington. So he is the only choice in CT and for all sensible Americans that want someone who really knows how to fix the economy. The mainstream politicians are all talk. They won't do a thing once they get to Washington but keep voting against the American people.


Chris
Comment posted August 15, 2009 @ 9:38 am

Godspeed gentlemen. you may be our last hope….


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted August 15, 2009 @ 3:58 pm

You don't seem to get it, do you? That just makes you a self-deluded, semi-weathly Paul-tard and there arn't enough of you to win anything other than a few House seats, if you are extremely lucky.

The Paul-tards Qixotic quest for the White House is just that; pure, unadulterated fantasy. The last best chance for a viable third party choice died with the psychotic rantings of H. Ross Perot. He practically had it in hand and pissed it away because he has no inner monologue.

All you will end up doing is spliting the Republican vote, much like Ralph Nader and the Dems, and ensure the Dems remain in power.

So drive your POS Range Rover off a cliff (if it will actually start) for all I care, it would be the same as voting for Dr. Magician Ron Paul. Your vote will fall into an empty void and change nothing.


vincent_brian
Comment posted August 15, 2009 @ 4:23 pm

Ah, but here's the rub… “privately held” corporations are still creatures of the State, which is itself the biggest corporation of them all:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/28/3002.html

Hence, corporations are bound to appease the creature that created them by following the bylaws of USA, INC…. In order to stay relevant, they must have their representatives (lobbyists) attend board meetings (congress) and lobby for their best interests as the bylaws of USA, INC. are constantly being rewritten.

Then we have the various “public sector” corporations (State, County, and City governments, assorted 3 letter agencies, school boards, courts, etc.) which have been run under this corporate structure for decades as for profit enterprises. When they report to the public that they are “under budget”, they conveniently fail to disclose that the income side of their budgets include only tax revenues.

These corporations have been quietly using our tax dollars to buy up assets and make investments in the “private sector” (as if there even is such thing anymore) and hiding away the earnings in their Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports. On average they have three times as many assets on the books as they report in the budgets they release to the public. It's time to expose the CAFRs:

http://www.taxretirement.com
http://www.cafr1.com


Tuci78
Comment posted August 15, 2009 @ 4:44 pm

You're not wrong about limited liability corporations in that regard (thanks for the link to Cornell Law), and – believe me – libertarian scholars have considered the ups and downs of these “artificial person” corporations for a long time.

The problem is that this sort of government-protected enterprise (which dates back into the earliest days of the Enlightenment) is so thoroughly a part of doing business now that its abrupt abolition would do the same sort of harm to the world economy (not just America's, but the world's) that the abrupt cessation of opioid medication would do to a patient maximally habituated to such chemicals.

“Convulsion” isn't a word I'd hesitate to use.

And, yes, “Thee corporations have been quietly using our tax dollars to buy up assets and make investments…”

I keep a close eye on the pharmaceuticals industry (go figure; I write prescriptions), and the M&A activities picked up precipitously immediately after these goddamned “bailouts” were unleashed. All that counterfeit currency had to go somewhere, and the recipients of Dubbya's and Barry's Federal Reserve largesse stuffed a lot of it into the health care sector.

20% of the GDP and the only part of the economy that shows any indication of growth potential, courtesy of “tax and rape” applied to bread and circuses for the National Socialist Party's key constituencies.

Bad. Could be better, though, if only the corporate fat cats can be denied any benefit out of buying (or even renting) the political Secret Masters of Pork.


vincent_brian
Comment posted August 15, 2009 @ 4:57 pm

Good points Tuci. “Secret Masters of Pork”… love it!

I've seen estimates that 70% of the stock market is owned by government agencies. I'm sure the proportion of land and other assets they “own” is similar.

Of course abrupt cessation of this system would be catastrophic. What's more likely to happen is the gradual erosion of this system as people disconnect themselves from the corporate economy and become more reliant on local trade.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 16, 2009 @ 1:54 am

Even then, “local trade” is simply not an efficient or effective way to maximize the productivity of human effort. Besides that, it's not very resilient.

It might seem that way – encouraging local self-containednese (called “autarky” in econospeak) – but that's an illusion. In reality, broad bases of production and service – freely occurring rather than “planned” by politicians or bureaucrats – tend to be not only more cost-efficient but also more sustainable in the face of “acts of god” kinds of vagaries.

The reasons why the old Soviet Empire didn't work – and why the remnants of that Empire had so much trouble getting themselves functional as independent countries after the break-up – was that the Soviet “Secret Masters of Pork” had been allocating functions to one or another part of the Empire for the express purpose of imposing a crippling dependency upon the non-core satrapies.

They reckoned that movements towards independence would be less viable in those conquered territories if, say Ukraine had much sunk capital in manufacturing that only the rest of the Empire could use (for a variety of reasons) and was desperately dependent upon Moscow for access to stuff that the people of the Ukraine did not produce because Moscow had deliberately prevented any productive investment in these areas from being made in the Ukraine.

When markets are free – “when goods and services cross borders” without interference and there are no government interventions to favor any kind of production or service, no “picking winners” – areas (like individuals) naturally tend to fall into doing what they do best. What their climate, talent pool, material resources, and so forth tend to give them the greatest advantage in doing.

Think of Adam Smith and his discussion of hothouse wine grapes in Scotland making fine wine – but at such cost that the vintners of Spain and Italy and France can beat Scottish “dago red” all to hellangone on price if nothing else.

Limited liability corporations have their uses in that they permit small-time investors to pool their savings and create real “critical mass” capital, necessary for doing big things. The limits of each investor's liability is what he put into the pot, and the corporation functions to accomplish the purposes for which the investors created it.

This is not a bad thing except when the people hired to run the corporation figure out ways to influence officers of civil government to grant them special prerogatives, do them “favors,” and generally “pick winners” in ways that allow the corporation's hired management goof-offs to do things that competition in a free market place they could not.

Like shut out competition, or get special access to resources, or avoid “labor disputes” by dint of government goons coming down on the corporation's employees.

It's not really the “corporate economy” with which you've got issues, bur rather the “government-corporate perversion of the economy” that's hacking at you.

And that's gotta end.


Omaar
Comment posted August 16, 2009 @ 3:52 am

Republican Credo: Fear,Hate,Dread,Doom & Gloom.

The So Called [Republicans]

Actually Dixie Crats

In 8 Years as President, Did Reagan get Rid of Government Run, Single Payer Health Care called…

[Medi-Care]

Ans: No

Did Republican Presidents, Richard Nixon 7 Years, Gerald Ford, 1Yr. Or George H.W.Bush 4 Years Or his son, George W.Bush Jr. 8 Years, Get Rid of Medi-Care, Medi-Caid, Indian Health Services, VA:Hospitals, CHIP: Covering Poor American Children…

Ans: No

Did they get Rid of the IRS [No]

Or the Federal Reserve [No]

Did they start the Flat Tax [No]

What do you know, Majority of the USA has been Under Control of Republicans, the Presidency, Congress and Senate and what have they Accomplished ?

Not a Thing

Bush Extended Medi-Care Part D [Fact]

Medi-Care:A Government Run Single Payer Plan and Rural Republicans Think,Medi-Care & Medi-Caid are Not Government Controlled [Jeesh]


Omaar
Comment posted August 16, 2009 @ 3:53 am

Ron Paul Deserves an [F+] for being a Career Politician, whose Accomplished Absolutely Nothing, but Faux-Progressive Rhetoric

My Thoughts on Ron Paul…

Paul is a Career Politician [Fact] what has he Done on Capital Hill ?

What Significant [Change] has he been a part of on Capital Hill, other than Vote [No] Against his then 6 Year Majority Ruling [Republican Party]

Knowing full well that regardless of his Votes of [No] his Republican Majority at that time, would Vote [Yes] to Any-All Bush, Big Spending Agenda.

His Votes of [No] were Meaningless and Stopped Absolutely [Nothing]

Had Ron Paul been Elected this I can Assure You would Not Happen….

1. Ron Paul Campaign Promise, to Legalize [Marijuana] is Borderline Bull-Spit !!

It would Never Happen.

The Only way it would Happen, would be for [78% of Both Parties] to be Voted Out of Power and Replaced by Young Independent, Democrat & Moderate Republicans.

An That's a Damn Pipe Dream, Until that Happens and Paul also being Voted Out as well, [No Change] In Washington DC.

The Democrats, like [Now] are Too Timid & Fearful of being looked upon as Too Liber-Radical.

The Republicans are Too Concerned with Pretending to be [Moral] though that's been [Exposed] as a [Big-Lie] and to be Truthful, that's Always been the Republican Case. The Republican Brand [Fakers Til The End]

So Both Parties Would Vote Gunja Legalization Down.

2. Ron Paul Campaign Promise, Ending Both Wars Immediately, which is a Sound Fiscal Thing to do, it would Never Happen, [Ever] but Should Happen. Neither Party would Vote Yes to do so [Fact]

3. Ron Paul,Campaign Promises, Ending the Federal Reserve, Another Bogus Claim Or Campaign Promise, that will [Not Happen] Sounds Great, Sounds Good, Sounds Rational, but will Never Happen.

That being Said, Ron Paul Deserves an [F+] for the Sheer Audacity of his Campaign Promises.

In Essence: Had Ron Paul Become President, Nothing would have Ever been [Accomplished] of any Significance, in his 4 Years as President, More Over 6 Months as President of the USA.

Again, I Rate Ron Paul's Political Career [F+]

For anyone believing, he would have Changed Anything in Washington DC, other than Vote [No] on All [Spending Bills] and wanting to Rid The Nation of the [Federal Reserve]

Oh Yeah, Ron Paul Promising the Legalizing of Marijuana and All Drugs, if You hear Ron Paul tell the story.

And Ron Paul, would [Veto] Any & All Health Health Care Reform


triathlon
Comment posted August 16, 2009 @ 8:44 pm

(TBAM VS SPLCENTER)

(TBAM VS SPLCENTER)

Now, what is (TBAM & SPLCENTER) they are the Take Back America Movement which seeks to take America’s Dream Back from Wall St., (AIPAC/AZC) the American Israel Public Affairs Committee/American Zionist Council, who fund Lobbyist, and payoff the Washington DC., District of Criminals to do their bidding the (DC/544), the Empire (NYC) New York City (NYSE) New York Stock Exchange & Washington DC. And the (SPLCENTER) Southern Poverty Law Center is an arm of that Criminal Group claiming to be a nonprofit civil rights group that, among other activities, investigates hate groups, headed by (SPLCENTER) Staff Director Mark Potok., and who does Mark Potok represent the (DC/544), The Department of Homeland Security, the (DEA) Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, The (FBI) Federal Bureau of Investigation, and every other alphabet soup Nazis organization that supports the (DC/544) Status Quo, of Domestic and World Wide Criminal Activities.

(The SPLCENTER & William Jefferson Clinton)

In an article written by one Eileen Sullivan, (AP) Associated Press, Officials see rise in milita groups across U.S., Wednesday, August 12th, (3:50 am ET), the article addressed, the Criminal attack by the government of William Jefferson Clinton upon events that have created (TBAM) bring more people to understand that the Empire government will murder its own Main St., citizens to promote its liberal (AIPAC/AZC/NYSE) agenda, Randall Weaver at Ruby Ridge, Idaho. Where William Jefferson Clintons, storm troopers killed Weaver’s wife and son, and William Jefferson Clintons, alphabet soup Nazis storm troops, (52) fifty-two day standoff between, the (FBI) and Delta Force soon to be the seeds of Blackwater Mercenaries, in (1993) at Waco, Texas, were (80) eighty mostly women and children like the (400) four-hundred children in Gaza innocent children were murdered. But, there was yet another murder spree committed by the then Governor of Arkansas William Jefferson Clinton, at Mena Arkansas were two young teenagers walking along a railroad track saw what they should not have seen, an aircraft drug drop by Mexican Warlords into the hands of one Governor William Jefferson Clinton and his criminal brother upon the railroad track, located near a warehouse, where the drugs were stored, it not only cost them there lives but dozens of others as a cover-up, tie up the loose ends murder spree was done. And today who does William Jefferson Clinton pal around with the likes of, one (NYC) New York City investor, Jeffrey Epstein, indicted on Florida State, charges of soliciting prostitution in Palm Beach, Florida, under Federal Authorities Investigation for a favor of William Jefferson Clintons fetishes (Bills Bimbo Break Out) of hiring under-age girls for massages, in a house stocked with sex toys and genitalia-shaped soaps. And the list goes on but educate yourself read for yourself see (WWW.VanityFair.Com/politics/features) The Comeback Id: Politics & Power by Todd S. Purdum, July 2nd 2008, go to (IFC) the Independent Film Channel, or (SDSU) San Diego State University, for the film about Mena Arkansas.

(Our country is in peril)

OUR COUNTRY IS IN PERIL, is the Rally Call, but it is much more than a rally call to a nation in peril it is a Rally Call to a World Community that is in Peril, it is a Wake-Up Call, it is the Tolling Bell, Ask Not For Whom The Bell Tolls it Tolls for all of us, it tolls for each and every Vandoo, Canadian Soldier who dies in support of the Empire, it tolls for each and every Tommy (UK) United Kingdom soldier who dies in support of the Empires Blood for Oil War upon the Islamic Crescent, it Tolls for each and every Jerry German Soldier who dies as the blood of (400) Four-Hundred Gaza Children cries for retribution, killed by weapons supplied by the (DC/544) Criminals. There are two sides to every conflict, the (DC/544) and its propagandist call the Patriot Timothy McVeigh, who in (1995) blew up the Federal Building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, killing many (168) One-Hundred-Sixty-Eight, many of them were alphabet soup Nazis organization members, but were innocents killed, YES! War’s and Revolutions are not Tea Parties, and one sides Patriot is seen by the other as a using Nancy Pelosi’s words, Un-American Terrorist, Astro-Turf Mats, that the (DC/544) will wipe their feet upon much as they will in the end plan if they succeed will wipe upon the Global Community. The Bell is Tolling is tolling around the Globe, and it is Tolling for You, Vandoo, for you Tommy, for you Jerry, for every citizen upon the Globe who simply want to live within a community of Nations that respects the others RIGHTS, to their own unique culture, choosing their own system of government, within Sphere’s of Influence, based upon the respect of INTERNATIONAL LAWS. LISTEN CAN YOU HEAR THE TOLLING OF THE BELL?

HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN


fuzzywzhe
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 3:47 am

The GOP is already dead.

All that's left is a bunch of people who want to continue a worthless war in Iraq, continue bailing out corporate criminals in our banking system, and continue keeping laws like the unconstitutional Patriot Act in force.

Just like the Democrats.

Who even cares who wins anymore? Nothing has changed with President Uncle Bush.

Next step, destroy the worthless entrenched propaganda machine called “the media”.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 4:08 am

The contention is that there is really no separate Republican Party, no true “Democrat” Party. Just two principal rival wings of one big, “bipartisan” Boot-On-Your-Neck Party.

Or “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.”

So much for “transparency” and “Hope” and “Change,” eh?


fuzzywzhe
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 4:36 am

Just let it all collapse, and figure out how to profit from it.

Aren't you sick of throwing pearls to swine by now? I know I sure am.

This worthless corporate media filled with lies from anything about the economy to foreign policy or military intelligence – proven wrong again and again and again. There's no hope of changing it, it's propaganda either intentional or the writers are simply indoctrinated into the housing bubble, the dot.com bubble, the wmd “mistakes” – etc.

This stupid government lying to us about everything, from the stability of the dollar to how well the war is going to what their motivations are.

Why do you still care? At this point, if people still don't have a clue what is going on, they deserve the fallout, because they've stopped being victims and have become enablers. It's because of this worthless group of morons that inhabit this country and votes in large ignorant numbers and pay attention to this crappy media we're in this situation.

I urge you, just start taking advantage of the situation, the riff raff aren't worth saving.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 5:04 am

Though I'm much tempted to follow your advice and “let it all collapse,” I'm afraid that there's that pestiferous aphorism one of my professors laid upon me many decades ago.

“A good physician never gives up.”

There are still ways to get out from under all this horror without first having it succumb completely to catastrophe. What I hate about statists like our own little stevie and the schlong he longs to suckle, Barry Obama, is that these evil, rotten, putatively “well-intentioned” power-tripping thieves and rape artists is that they're going to come through any such “collapse” without much suffering at all.

They're insulated. They've got mansions and plenty of financial padding to cushion their falls. The people they've victimized don't, and its the folks in the rest of the nation – ants and grasshoppers alike, but still people – who are going to get slammed as the result of these politicians' machinations.

I can't say they don't “deserve the fallout,” but “morons” or not, I have to look at 'em all as if they were patients.

I know more than they do. And with knowing more than they do, I've got – like it or not – a duty to do what can be done to help these people to save themselves and their children from what the socialists are striving to inflict upon them.

It's like trying to talk a Marine out of jumping on a hand grenade, fuzzy. I can't just stand on the side of the road and watch the wreck happen, even if it means getting turned into another highway statistic myself.


fuzzywzhe
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 5:37 am

If this is a patient, it's a patient screaming at you being a quack, a murderer, a nut, a zealot. Do you have responsibility to keep such a person alive to spread their ideas to other people? Pass them on to their kids?

Let your patient go back to witchcraft, vodoo, psychic surgery, and Acai berry treatments. You did your duty, and I've done mine.

You know more than they do, because you took the minimal effort to do some research, just as I did. They're too busy watching American Idol and Da Game. They have bad priorities and they denigrate anybody that has good priorities.

I wish to remind you that in a capitalist free market system, for it to work, people have to be well informed and educated, individually. You need that for a basic representative Democracy or a Republic.

In a STATIST government, you have heroes out to save everybody from their ignorant selves.

You are becoming that statist. The Road to Hell is paved with Good Intentions. Stop having them.

I am fully convinced people want to do the right thing at the beginning, but you have all these ungrateful slobs. It's no wonder politicians give up on them. I did, and I'm not even a politician.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 17, 2009 @ 6:30 am

I've had all that and more from real, live patients. I just love PCP intoxication. Had one guy in the Emergency Department who'd gotten substantially ding'd in a motor vehicle accident, brought in on a long board, Philadelphia collar in situ, zonked. Couldn't tell if he was concussed (pupils were symmetrical and reactive) or stoned. Suspected a little of both. Breathing okay, BP okay, heart rate regular. Cut him out of his clothing without moving him much, got his bleeding under control, turned away to the work station for a minute and there he was, standing up beside the Gurney, starkers, wild-eyed. He'd ripped away the dressings and was bleeding briskly again, making gorilla motions and growling.

Yeah, growling. Watched calmly as he bled out enough to faint, and then when he was down on the floor, we got him back up on the long board and out came those leather four-point restraints we're not supposed (by law) to have in the Emergency Department and we fastened him down like a helicopter on a flight deck.

Dunno what happened to him after I got him out of my emergency room (didja know that “gomer” is an acronym? stands for “Get Out of My Emergency Room!”) but it was fun while it lasted.

So, yeah, I treat stupid, too. When I'm allowed the chance.

Actually, “in a capitalist free market system, for it to work, people [do not] have to be well informed and educated, individually.”

Not needed. Honest. In a free market system (“capitalist free market” is redundant) there are open and inescapable incentives for the participants “to be well informed and educated,” but they don't have to be in order to be protected.

There's a sort of easily understood mass benefit to a free market. The “well informed and educated” are the leaders. In a free market, they find the optimum solutions and the visibility of their good outcomes draw the less informed and poorly educated along into those channels of opportunity.

People really don't have to be all that smart to do well in a free market economy. Principle of least effort (unlike little stevie, I'm an ex-Biology major) works pretty well. Copycats. “Free riders.”

This is one of the reasons why the “greedy” capitalist way of doing things works so spectacularly well. And why government distortion of the marketplace does so damned much damage.

Government induces malinvestments – economically nonviable “solutions” to problems that are problems only in the eyes of politicians grasping for things that can get them votes or “contributions.” The not-so-smart people see things flowing artificially in such directions, and steer their fragile little canoes along with the government steamships, thinking that there's deep water and smooth sailing all the way.

And wind up smashed all to hellangone on the rapids they should've been smart enough to anticipate, if only the hadn't been so sure that the government steersman wasn't the total numb-nuts he truly is.

I'm pretty well convinced that most people want to do the right things from beginning all the way through to the end. I'm not particularly interested in whether or not they're ever grateful for the pitiful kinds of efforts I put forth.

You know us sawbones. If we can pull just one survivor out of the car crash, that's still one we beat the reaper on.

Politicians can afford to “give up” on their constituents. They're a buncha lying, slimy, useless parasites.

No matter what my wife says about me (and, yeah, I didn't mow the lawn again this week-end), I'm not.


ronhofbauer
Comment posted August 19, 2009 @ 10:43 am

Huh? Are you jesting?! Maybe you live on a different planet than me. The higher the level of capitalism the more inequality and misery is what I'm seeing.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 19, 2009 @ 10:58 am

Nah. What you're mistaking for “The higher the level of capitalism” isn't a free market at all, but rather the form of mercantilism peculiar to the Republican Party (and their predecessors of the Whig Party), which historian Clyde Wilson characterized as “state capitalism” –

Apparently millions continue to harbor the strange delusion that the Republican party is the party of free enterprise, and, at least since the New Deal, the party of conservatism. In fact, the party is and always has been the party of state capitalism. That, along with the powers and perks it provides its leaders, is the whole reason for its creation and continued existence. By state capitalism I mean a regime of highly concentrated private ownership, subsidized and protected by government. The Republican party has never, ever opposed any government interference in the free market or any government expenditure except those that might favour labour unions or threaten Big Business. Consider that for a long time it was the party of high tariffs – when high tariffs benefited Northern big capital and oppressed the South and most of the population. Now it is the party of so-called “free trade” – because that is the policy that benefits Northern big capital, whatever it might cost the rest of us. In succession, Republicans presented opposite policies idealistically as good for America, while carefully avoiding discussion of exactly who it was good for.

(( emphasis added ))

That there should be “inequality and misery” in this world is unavoidable. People are equal in their rights to life, to liberty, and to property, but there are no real, precise equalities in physical strength, stature, stamina, intelligence, training, talent, skin color, initiative, or – getting right down to it – DNA.

Nice thing about human beings. Though we tend to flock together (division of labor economy comes out of that), we're still capable of living as individuals when we have to. Failing to recognize the individuality of human beings is where economic fallacies like socialism go drastically (hell, fatally) awry.

Now, mercantilism – or “state capitalism” to use Wilson's term – isn't so much a fallacy as it is a scheme of victimization worked out for the benefit of the politicians and their “contributors,” the politically connected.

To abate the “legal plunder” (look up Bastiat) of mercantilism/ “state capitalism” the point of address must be the civil government, not the people buying influence from the officers of state government.

The influence buyers can be converted to soap and chimney smoke, but more influence purchasers will come up to replace them.

No, you've got to hit the sellers in that game – the officers of civil government perverting the powers of their offices to victimize innocent “politically unconnected” folks like you and me.

You can neuter all the male dogs in the neighborhood and think you've got the puppy population problem licked, but if one mutt with an intact set of reproductive gear gets in (and he will!), every bitch on the block is gonna be bulging in no time flat. Not so?

Time to spay the government, not waste time castrating the “capitalists.”


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karlthomas
Comment posted August 21, 2009 @ 7:45 pm

I insist you actually read the constitution…before amendments….
it never allowed for slavery…it never prohibited african americans and women from voting…

Those were failures of the people, not of the law. The law acknowledged EQUALITY. Slavery and prohibition of voting rights were illegal under the Constitution well before the document was amended but just as now, PEOPLE adapted their Constitution out of convenience.


karlthomas
Comment posted August 21, 2009 @ 7:53 pm

Mark, under the 'original' Constitution you were NOT a slave. The Constitution acknowledged EQUALITY. It is up to the people to abide by the law. Had the ORIGINAL constitution been followed, you would never have been a slave….the original document explicitly said YOU were created equal….it is was up to the white people to treat you as human and acknowledge that the Constitution NEVER said only WHITES were created equal.

You claim the Constituion is an old ducument that would have made you a slave….I know you won't do it, but i'll still insist you read it…NO WHERE in the original document is there any loophole that would have made it LEGAL to own slaves….Slave owners simply ignored the law and non-owners didn't raise much fuss until around 1865…but the CONSTITUTION still prohibited inequality.


trippin
Comment posted August 22, 2009 @ 12:19 pm

I prefer to call him “Ru Paul” because when it comes right down to it, he's not the person he plays on TV. The man is a corporate fascist wrapped in populist banter.

For Ru Paul, “freedom” is code for deregulating the greedy so they can sell us tainted food, ineffective and dangerous drugs, and unsafe vehicles — make us work without restrictions and safety standards — deny us coverage after taking our premiums — whatever the people with money and power want to do to increase their share of money and power.


riceowlex
Comment posted August 23, 2009 @ 9:21 pm

Black/brown men make up the majority of those people in American prisons. How does that fit into your idea of Constitutional equality?


republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 26, 2009 @ 3:53 pm

YOU ARE CORRECT SIR I HATE STUPID ASSHOLE JUST LIKE YOU, STUPIDITY CAN BE FIXED YOU ARE JUST TO FUCKING STUPID TO FIX IT…


republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 26, 2009 @ 3:54 pm

HOW MANY OF THOSE BACK AND BROWN MEN HAVE BEEN FOUNF INNOCENT BY DNA TESTING DUMBASS?? HOW MANY HAVE BEEN FREED BY FINDING OUT THE POLICE LIE?? GROW A BRAIN ASSHOLE


republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 26, 2009 @ 3:56 pm

I WOULD BUT YOUR MAMA IS ON HER TIME OF THE MONTH SON


Tuci78
Comment posted August 26, 2009 @ 4:31 pm

You normally stick your head in a coffin, stupidity?

Mom's been dead a buncha years now, and she was postmenopausal for about thirty years when the cancer finally finished her off.

Oh, well. No accounting for anything in an Obamaphile except flaming stupidity.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 26, 2009 @ 4:42 pm

Quit the “Caps Lock” stupidity, stupidity.

You're right about people having been found “not guilty” through more thorough forensic examination of available evidence, including DNA materials. This is evidence not necessarily of “black/brown men” being more criminal in their character (though the “war on drugs” tends to tempt them more than it does white males who have better access to opportunities outside the informal criminal sector of our economy) but rather prosecutorial misconduct on the part of government attorneys.

These kinds of “Malevolent Jobholders” see their way to promotion (and even elective office) through high conviction rates, and therefore they are no more intent upon serving the cause of justice than is little stevie interested in honest analysis of your Fraudulence-in-Chief's lack of qualification to occupy the Oval Office.

I would suggest amalgamation of the offices of district attorneys and public defenders and the assignment of prosecution/defense tasks on a rota basis. Let these overweening taxpayer-funded lawyers take turns on both sides of the criminal bench, each time in full knowledge that they will next time be working to the opposite purpose. No ability to restrict themselves to the juicy job of prosecution or the penury of resources on the side of the public defender.

That might balance those scales of justice which even you, stupidity, see so unjustly tilted against “those black and brown men” of which you speak.


riceowlex
Comment posted August 27, 2009 @ 4:32 am

3000-4000 people of color by a Harris County Grand Jury in Houston Tx ..These people were not only in prison they were on death row. I won't stoop to name calling, when you do that your showing your ignorance and the fact you've lost the argument. Unfortunately there are lot's of people with your limited mental abilities, or just a lazy streak that keeps you from researching things like this and finding the truth for yourself. Might want to try that, the research that is. If you do some research you find interesting facts and look much less ignorant as a result.   Keith


Name
Comment posted August 27, 2009 @ 5:54 am

tuci78 plays skin flute


Name
Comment posted August 27, 2009 @ 6:18 am

i would like to show you my skin flute behind a transparency. then you could play it on the overhead projector.


Name
Comment posted August 27, 2009 @ 6:18 am

'almost' only counts with hand grenades and skin flutes. remember that night?


Name
Comment posted August 27, 2009 @ 6:19 am

come saw my bone. or play my skin flute. tuci78.


Name
Comment posted August 27, 2009 @ 6:20 am

you would like to rape my skin flute wouldn't you. check yes or no.


Name
Comment posted August 27, 2009 @ 6:21 am

helping hands of tuci78. all over my skin flute.


Name
Comment posted August 27, 2009 @ 6:22 am

“skin flute”. I win. in parentheses.


Name
Comment posted August 27, 2009 @ 6:22 am

tuci78 would like to denigrate your skin flute.


republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 27, 2009 @ 4:40 pm

What the fuck are you talking about shitbrain? another high school dropout that gets mindfuck by faux news read a book asshole


republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 27, 2009 @ 4:41 pm

HERE KITTY KITTY KITTY……SAME RETARD PUSSY THAT STAYS ON THE INTERNET ALL DAY AND THINKS THAT HIS TRAILER PARK OPINION MEANS ANYTHING….YOU ARE A PIECE OF SHIT AND A PUSSY…… PUSSY


republicanstupidity
Comment posted August 27, 2009 @ 4:42 pm

BUT YOUR MOTHER LOVES THAT QUALITY!!!


matt1234
Comment posted September 9, 2009 @ 3:59 am

Him and Schiff would make America great again. I would like to have one person asking the tough questions. Please Connecticut and Kentucky wake up.


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lv
Comment posted August 9, 2010 @ 4:47 pm

Please Connecticut and Kentucky wake up.


Gucci Techno
Comment posted August 26, 2010 @ 7:05 am

I hope he will success.


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Comment posted September 6, 2010 @ 2:15 am

Him and Schiff would make America great again. I would like to have one person asking the tough questions. Please Connecticut and Kentucky wake up.


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Comment posted September 22, 2010 @ 8:43 pm

These kinds of “Malevolent Jobholders” see their way to promotion (and even elective office) through high conviction rates, and therefore they are no more intent upon serving the cause of justice than is little stevie interested in honest analysis of your Fraudulence-in-Chief's lack of qualification to occupy the Oval Office.


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