Lyndon LaRouche and the ‘Hitler’ Meme

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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 at 10:10 am

A conservative Michigan blogger is accusing Democrats and “union thugs” of “planting” a man holding a sign comparing President Obama to Adolf Hitler at a town hall meeting held by Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.). The evidence: One FreeRepublic.com member claimed to see the man (who was African-American) passing out Dingell literature.

The truth is a little murkier than that. The man was a supporter of fringe Democratic activist Lyndon LaRouche, whose LaRouchePAC has been running with the “Obama=Hitler” theme for a few months now. That “I’ve Changed” poster seen at the rally can be downloaded as a PDF from LaRouche’s Website.

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Conservative blogger Stephen Gutowksi pointed out the LaRouche connection in a video linked by BlogProf, the Michigan conservative who questioned the Dingell event.

What’s this mean? It’s really not good for conservative opponents of Democratic health care reform plans when their fellow activists are pictured with signs comparing the president to Hitler or accused of painting swastikas on congressional offices. The solution: Blame these incidents on “plants” or call them hoaxes. If they want to know how hard this will be, though, they should ask the anti-Iraq War protesters who watched coverage of their events focus on the craziest, fringiest people there. The LaRouche cultists are not “plants.” They want, sadly, to be allies.

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notozymandius
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 3:13 pm

The great thing about the protesters is the LaRouche people don't have to organize them to show up at town hall meetings, the people are showing up on their own initiative because they have lost their jobs or fear losing them and they want to know why congresspeople support the plans of the President to reform health care when millions are out of work. They fear the government will herd them off to gas chambers like Hitler did in his final solution. You should fear this too. Rather than waste time implementing Goldman Sachs bailouts, Obama should be getting people back to work rebuilding the real economy. Put the banks through reorganization, criminalize HMOs & build thousands of new hospitals across America.


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 4:00 pm

This is, by far, one of the stupidest, most ill-informed comments I have ever read and I read the 4chan boards. Gas chambers? This is based on what, your own deluded fantasy world where Obama comes for the white women and old milk shakes? Please, go sell crazy someplace else.


strangely_enough
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 4:33 pm

“They fear the government will herd them off to gas chambers like Hitler did in his final solution. You should fear this too.”
Epic, Godwin affirming, FAIL!!!11!!


howiecopywriter
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 4:39 pm

Sadly or not, LaRouche and larouchepac.com are telling it like it is.


howiecopywriter
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 4:40 pm

I also post Larouche stuff at harlemface.com


Todd Maxwell
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 4:53 pm

I fail to see how this incident is “not good for conservative opponents of Democratic health care reform.” How is a supporter of a Democratic activist a fellow activist with conservatives? Regarding accusations of painting swastikas on congressional offices, that is all they are, accusations by conservatives' opponents. Mr. Weigel, you assign blame without evidence and then accuse conservatives of the same.

You need not respond to me, as I doubt you will; I wouldn't anticipate a reasonable discussion. It is a contorted logic which finds that only racists can oppose a health care bill. Can you see the disconnect?


mantis
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 5:47 pm

I fail to see how this incident is “not good for conservative opponents of Democratic health care reform.”

Because it makes you look bad by association (of course, calling yourself a member of a mob, as you apparently do judging by your link, you are doing the same thing). Dave's post is pretty clear on that. Comprehension problems?

How is a supporter of a Democratic activist a fellow activist with conservatives?

He's out there doing the same thing as the conservatives, that's how.

Regarding accusations of painting swastikas on congressional offices, that is all they are, accusations by conservatives' opponents. Mr. Weigel, you assign blame without evidence and then accuse conservatives of the same.

Where does he assign blame for the swastika painted on the congressional office? Oh, he doesn't? He actually writes that they have been “accused of painting swastikas on congressional offices.” Gee, more reading comprehension problems for Mr. Maxwell. Shocking.

Can you see the disconnect?

I can see the disconnect between your brain and reality.


Guardian
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 6:00 pm

Wrong David. They want a single payer system AKA universal healthcare. Go back and read the LaRouche website again. They are far left.


Snicker
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 6:04 pm

Let us try this experiment:
In fact (from Wikipedia):

In 1979, LaRouche formed a Political Action Committee called the National Democratic Policy Committee (NDPC). LaRouche has run for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States seven times, beginning in 1980.

Yup, there's your “Republican”, oh wait.


Todd Maxwell
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 6:06 pm

“Bad by association…Dave's post is pretty clear on that.” We're talking about associations Mr. Weigel himself is making. You're talking in circles. Who has comprehension problems?

Also, by associating myself with the mob (a term assigned by Democrat members of Congress, I might remind), I am merely engaging in an age-old tradition of embracing insult as a badge of honor, a practice regularly employed by conservatives' political opposites.

“He's out there doing the same thing as the conservatives.” Which are you referring to: opposing the proposed health care bill or carrying Hitler=Obama signs? One is a stretch for connection, the other is false. You need not damage yourself by answering.

“Where does he assign blame…?” He assigns blame by implication. By repeating the accusations while discussing what makes conservatives look bad, he tacitly assigns them.

“I can see the disconnect between your brain and reality.” Now you're just being insulting. But if I understand reality as you see it, you are equating fringe Democrats with mainstream Republicans. Interesting


TomB
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 6:09 pm

Here is a statement from the Larouche website:

“Advocates for a single-payer health care system are on an organizing drive across the country to try to get single-payer into the debate on health care reform. The LaRouche movement supports single-payer, but nothing will happen on it until the Obama Administration's Nazi health care policy is defeated and the HMOs are defeated. “

They want SINGLE-PAYER. The republicans want private insurance. They are not, in any way, “allied” with each other.

They want completely different things. Is it that hard to understand?


Todd Maxwell
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 6:18 pm

Better said that I had. Thanks!


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mantis
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 6:26 pm

Why can't wingnuts read? Snicker, from the post you are responding to (it's very brief, even you might be able to get through it):

fringe Democratic activist Lyndon LaRouche

Where does it say he's a Republican?


Mark Connor
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 6:32 pm

In response to Mr. Maxwell's post, the damage this does to conservative opponents is that anything that discredits opposition to the President's proposals hurts mainstream conservatives far more than it hurts a fringe liberal groups.

This afternoon I refused to take a flyer comparing Obama to Hitler. I lost several family members in concentration camps, and I find the comparison insensitive and inappropriate. But because I refused a flyer, the group passing out literature called me a Nazi; when I protested, another threatened to punch me.

Most tellingly, they refused to identify themselves or the group funding their protest– to the point that they denied that the “LaRouche PAC” logo on their sign signified affiliation. They simply called themselves “opponents of the President.”

I would argue, Mr. Maxwell, that this personal attack on me discredits their organization. Thus, their attempt to blend in with mainstream conservative opposition is certainly “not good” for the Republican Party.

Justice Brandeis– incidentally, one of this country's most important supporters of free speech– said that sunlight is the best disinfectant. There is no better cause behind which conservatives and liberals should unite: publicly denounce LaRouche's tactics and make it clear that there is indeed room on both sides for rational, respectful dialogue.


mantis
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 6:36 pm

They want completely different things. Is it that hard to understand?

They want different health care, yes. I never claimed otherwise. It still doesn't help anti-health reform protesters to be protesting alongside LaRouche supporters, but since both parties' main purpose is to protest the president, and call him and all Democrats Nazis, they deserve each other.


Chicago Mike
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 6:38 pm

LaRouche's supporters are trying to equate themselves with mainstream opposition to the Presdient, which in practice means Republicans. LaRouche has no credibility or voice in national politics, so why not hide behind someone who does?

Besides, it doesn't matter to LaRouche's supporters whether their tactics end up making the GOP look bad. In fact, in one fell swoop they can make both Republicans and Democrats look bad.


mantis
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 6:43 pm

We're talking about associations Mr. Weigel himself is making.

Yes, here is what he wrote:

It’s really not good for conservative opponents of Democratic health care reform plans when their fellow activists are pictured with signs comparing the president to Hitler or accused of painting swastikas on congressional offices.

Do you disagree with that? Do you think it is good for conservative opponents?

Also, by associating myself with the mob (a term assigned by Democrat members of Congress, I might remind), I am merely engaging in an age-old tradition of embracing insult as a badge of honor, a practice regularly employed by conservatives' political opposites.

Sorry, pal, but you aren't going to somehow release the negative connotation to the word “mob,” no matter how much you embrace it.

Which are you referring to: opposing the proposed health care bill or carrying Hitler=Obama signs?

Well, both, actually.

One is a stretch for connection, the other is false.

One is a stretch only insofar as the protesting parties have different goals, but the fact is they both oppose any health care reform currently being discussed. The Obama=Hitler thing is most certainly not false. I was talking with conservative teabaggers in April who held signs comparing Obama to Hitler. Lots of them.

He assigns blame by implication. By repeating the accusations while discussing what makes conservatives look bad, he tacitly assigns them.

No, dumbass, he says they are accused of it. That's not implying blame, no matter how much you want to believe it is.

Now you're just being insulting.

Awww, are you going to cry?

But if I understand reality as you see it, you are equating fringe Democrats with mainstream Republicans.

They are both saying Obama and the Democrats are Nazis. This is a fact.


mantis
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 6:44 pm

He didn't say they aren't.


Todd Maxwell
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 6:49 pm

So basically you are admitting that you recognize the difference between the groups, but choose to regard them as one and the same. And since one group uses inflammatory rhetoric, you choose to attribute it to the other. But now things are getting muddled, because LaRouche is calling Democrats Nazis, but Democrats in Congress are accusing Republicans of bearing swastikas, commonly understood as calling Republicans Nazis. So, does that mean the Nazis are calling themselves Nazis, or everyone else Nazis?

I won't bother sorting out the mess you've made. But I have confidence that the average person understands the difference between LaRouche and conservatives.


mantis
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 6:57 pm

So basically you are admitting that you recognize the difference between the groups, but choose to regard them as one and the same.

No. I do not regard them as one and the same, and never said so. Nice strawman.

And since one group uses inflammatory rhetoric, you choose to attribute it to the other.

Are you serious? You don't think conservatives are using inflammatory rhetoric, and it's only LaRouche followers? Get real.

But now things are getting muddled, because LaRouche is calling Democrats Nazis, but Democrats in Congress are accusing Republicans of bearing swastikas, commonly understood as calling Republicans Nazis.

No, they are carrying signs with swastikas, all of which are calling Democrats/Obama Nazis. I haven't heard anyone saying the Republicans are themselves Nazis.

So, does that mean the Nazis are calling themselves Nazis, or everyone else Nazis?

No, it means the teabaggers are carrying around swastikas and Hitler posters calling everyone else Nazis. It's not difficult to understand, unless you're a wingnut.

But I have confidence that the average person understands the difference between LaRouche and conservatives.

How could they tell? They are allies in opposition, using the exact same rhetoric and symbols.


Todd Maxwell
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:02 pm

You make a good point, and conservatives will do good to maintain that separation between their efforts and those of LaRouche PAC. No help comes from the likes of MSNBC, CNN, etc. which all too willingly choose to ignore the distinctions between the groups, and summarily lump the two together.

However, I would also state that conservatives would do just as well not to become distracted by this. The fact is, conservatives are now being accused of both being Nazis and calling those they oppose Nazis. These are opposing accusations being launched at the same group. It's best to step back and let the absurdity expose itself to the sunlight.


tim
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:08 pm

Um- no idiot- they don't want to be allies- they want single payer only. Can you please engage your brain before writing. And yes, why was someone working for Dingell carrying around the Hitler sign?


mantis
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:09 pm

Um- no idiot- they don't want to be allies

Allies in opposition, they most certainly do want be.

why was someone working for Dingell carrying around the Hitler sign?

A random freeper said it, so it must be true!


TomB
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:10 pm

“I would argue, Mr. Maxwell, that this personal attack on me discredits their organization. Thus, their attempt to blend in with mainstream conservative opposition is certainly “not good” for the Republican Party. “

This is a reach of epic proportions. They take the extreme opposite opinion of the Republicans. They place their logo and contact info on all their own literature. They do not associate or claim to be republicans. The only thing the two have in common are that they are at the same event.

The only people who this is “not good” for are the dems who claim the nazi protesters are republicans, only to have that easily proved wrong. Yet another lie in the health care debacle.


Todd Maxwell
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:12 pm

I made an assumption, but didn't set up a strawman; you proved that when just attributed the activities of LaRouche PAC to the teabaggers.

When I said “inflammatory rhetoric” I was mostly referring to Nazi references. Unless you can provide an example, I've not heard any from mainstream conservatives. That is what we are comparing here, mainstream conservatives vs. fringe Democrats. I still think people can tell the difference. Obviously you can.


tim
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:12 pm

Oh- and if we follow your logic doesn't that mean Obama is a terrorist and a racist jerk since his two pals were Ayers and the wonderful Rev. J. Wright? If merely being in the same air space makes people the same you'd better think about what this say's about Dear Leader who has a host of unsavory friends and allies.


mantis
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:12 pm

The fact is, conservatives are now being accused of both being Nazis and calling those they oppose Nazis.

Who accused them of being Nazis, and of calling those they oppose Nazis?


tim
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:18 pm

And by the way- How many incidences of the main stream media can you find who stated as fact that the sign was being carried by Republicans- by 'the mob'. Even five minutes of actual journalism would have shown their fact to be fiction. So, I'm confused at why you think a report from an actual human being at the actual protest would be any less reliable than 'reporters' who choose only to report 'facts' that fit in with the fiction they wish to perpetrate.


Todd Maxwell
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:19 pm

Nancy Pelosi made the unfounded claim that her opposition bore swastikas, commonly understood to mean that the bearers were Nazis. Mr. Weigel's article here is fabricating connections that conservatives are calling others Nazi's.


Todd Maxwell
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:22 pm

“Awww, are you going to cry?”

This is getting childish. I'm done with you.


TomB
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:22 pm

Todd, as mantis will undoubtedly point out, Pelosi didn't say the protesters were Nazis, she said they were “carrying swastikas and symbols like that”. As you should know, many mainstream groups carry swastikas all the time, as a matter of fact, I think the girl scouts have a swastika-shaped cookie this year, so just because you “carry” a swastika doesn't make you a nazi.

Nuance.


Todd Maxwell
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:25 pm

Tom, if you're not there already, you belong on FreedomTorch.com


flyfish
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:26 pm

Nice liberal double standard in play to make yet another tempest in a tea kettle. Comparing the President to Hitler only matters when that President isn't GW Bush.


TomB
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:32 pm

Only if I get a free swastika with my secret decoder ring.

EXCELSIOR!!!!


mantis
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:40 pm

Nancy Pelosi made the unfounded claim that her opposition bore swastikas, commonly understood to mean that the bearers were Nazis.

Wrong.

Mr. Weigel's article here is fabricating connections that conservatives are calling others Nazi's.

He doesn't need to fabricate anything. It's demonstrably true that conservatives are calling others Nazis. I just submitted a post with a bunch of links for you, which is awaiting moderation.


mantis
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 7:40 pm

Your whining is childish.


ericschulzke
Comment posted August 12, 2009 @ 10:28 pm

Um, no. The Larouche people want a single payer system. The knock on Obama, for them, is that he doesn't go far enough. Ally of the right? My goodness….


jummy
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 3:35 pm

i just can't get over this.

on 1/20/2001, progressives and marxists from the 1st thru 4th internationalle staged massive protests around president bush's inauguration in which they made seemingly only nazi references, called the incoming president a murderer, spewed deranged conspiracy theories about voting machines, burned effigies, lit fires in the streets and hurled eggs at the motorcade.

this was the day before day one of the bush presidency. the president had no policy they were protesting. the left's protests were a rote exercise in antipluralism. and these protests continued on as a regular media event throughout bush's two terms; the rhetoric on display only getting shriller, more extreme, more deranged. the groups involved became more riotous, more detestable (a regular participant in “antiwar” rallies were members from david duke's white supremacist group, “no war for israel” ).

how did progressives in and out of the mainstream media portray these pitchfork parades? as organic, principled expressions of the people. the coverage in the mainstream media deliberately cherry-picked around the profligate graphic comparisons of bush and hitler to find little old ladies to interview. they admonished people who pointed out, for instance, that the lead organizing group of the astroturf “antiwar” rallies, international answer, was a group of unreconstructed stalinists headed by saddam hussein's attorney ramsey clarke, saying that such remarks were irrelivant to the purity of the protests' message. they claimed that speaking that sort of fact is a “smear” and a fallacy of “guilt by association”.

but it goes further.

where in those years, progressives would ostentatiously battle a strawman administration who they imagined was always accusing them of treason, now progressives are unanimous under their congressional leaders in agreement that disent is in fact unamerican. progressives now believe that dissent is treason, and a form of terrorism.


mantis
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 3:50 pm

how did progressives in and out of the mainstream media portray these pitchfork parades? as organic, principled expressions of the people.

Ha! They treated them as dirty fucking hippies, and you know it, not that I expect anyone who's brain is clearly filled with conspiracy theories to have a clear memory of recent history.

progressives now believe that dissent is treason, and a form of terrorism.

We do? Gee, that's news to this progressive.


jummy
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 3:54 pm

i noticed that weigle noted the whole antiwar protests organized by saddam's lawer thing.

here's why your analogy faulty.

the “antiwar” protesters never suffered from this association, because the mainstream media took pains to never report it. it was reported on once in a single reutters article published in 2007. this is why you had to link to a conservative blog for an example of this damning fact even being mentioned.

second, international answer (of the stalinist workers world party) and the world can't wait (of the maoist revolutionary communist party) were not party-crashers or free-riders on initiatives organized by more “respectable groups. they were the lead, primary organzers. at every march 20th, february 15th, september 24th annual “antiwar” event, the stage, the permits, the insurance, and the speakers were all wwp. there would literally have been no “antiwar” protest movement without them.

a more apt comparison would be to the regular appearance of david duke's nowarforisrael members at answer's astroturf “antiwar” rallies.

but two points on that:

1) their presence was never covered or acknowledged.

2)there's much difference between inviting a disfavorable comparison between a politician you don't like with hitler and actually being pro-hitler.


jummy
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 4:14 pm

“Ha! They treated them as dirty fucking hippies”

here's a taste of it:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11887714/ns/world_n…

that's not even a matter of differing interpretations stemming from differing perspectives. you lie when you attempt to claim the “antiwar” protests got negative treatment.

“We do? Gee, that's news to this progressive.”

house speaker pelosi and rep. hoyer published a joint statement in which they called obamacare opponents “unamerican”. the washington post said that “(healtcare protesters have) given up any pretense of being the loyal opposition. They've become political terrorists”

quite playing stupid. people might believe you. it's not clever, and it makes your hypocrisy seem that much more abject and dirty.


jummy
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 4:16 pm

“positive treatment”, sorry.


Todd Maxwell
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 5:07 pm

Jummy: I told Tom this, too. If you're not already there, you should be on FreedomTorch.com Your insight would be highly welcome there.


allstonian
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 5:15 pm

“It’s really not good for conservative opponents of Democratic health care reform plans when their fellow activists are pictured with signs comparing the president to Hitler”

Are you serious? A far left group who is against Obamacare because it doesn't go far enough is a world away from a conservative group that wants no part of Obamacare. Only someone who supports Obama, which I suspect you do, could link LaRouche (far left, single payer, credit card stealing oaf) with Americans.


Todd Maxwell
Comment posted August 13, 2009 @ 5:19 pm

Oh, progressives are such the victims, aren't they? Wake up and realize that progressives are not fighting the system, they ARE the system!


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earth
Comment posted August 14, 2009 @ 6:53 am

The dick and conservative Michigan blogger who broke the “story” is a professor of MECHANICAL engineering at Oakland University, Rochester, Michigan, Chris J. Kobus. He posts so often it seems impossible for him to have time to actually TEACH.

You can reach him at http://personalwebs.oakland.edu/~cjkobus/ or cjkobus@oakland.edu.


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degreemomof3
Comment posted August 16, 2009 @ 2:30 am

Re: La Rouche. This nauseating group “hit” our town this morning unfortunately, and raised the ire and notice of not only our local (NORMAL), citizenry but local law enforcement at well. I had the unfortunate experience of seeing them on my way (and then on my return from), to a Dr. appointment. They were very agitated in their movements, aggressive in their manner, yelling at people going by, and held many, “hate” signs which they also tried to put in front of cars driving by. Most of them left after the police arrived. They had quite a negative impact in the parking lot of a shopping center where they had congregated (unknown if they had a permit to assemble, as were NOT just “on the sidewalk”, but all over the parking lot, in front of retail stores AND our local U.S. Post office). I remember my father speaking about “La Rouche” when I was a child (my father worked for the FBI for a number of years, and dealt with these type of “Neo-Nazi” groups – and make NO mistake, that is EXACTLY what “La Rouche”, and other groups like the “John Birch Society” along with Nazi sympathizers, White Supremesist factions and others ARE. Nothing more, nothing less). Their “agenda” is to tear this country both down and apart, including the complete destruction of our U.S. Constitution, period. La Rouche and similar groups (along with “vigilante” activities), are also much more visible during times of economic and social “unrest” and downturn. The fact is, that these groups are more pronounced today than even during the Great Depression. Why? Because people are ignorant, afraid, are out of work, do not understand or want CHANGE (even it is means a better life for them as it will be with the Health Care Initiavie – READ it, just don't react, actually READ the initiative and LISTEN to what Obama is saying), are fed irrational lies, are listening to extremist, reactive propaganda (the kind found on FOX news network, and including “The O'Reilly Factor”, “Glen Beck”, “Hannity” and other extreme right wing, sensationalist programming), and are followers, not leaders. They are also listening to people who are not only prejudice, but looking to overthrow our democracy, and create fear and anarchy within society today. If they succeed, it will be total anarchy in this country, and that will be the “death nell” as well. If what I saw today (a group of over – estimated – 100+ individuals, with LARGE posters of pictures of President Obama with a “Hitler” moustache that says “I've Changed”, all kinds of “hate” pickets, “don't tread of me”* posters, with CHILDREN – and I mean under the age of 7 – present to “learn” this type of ignorant, brainwashing, treachery – *which flag was used during the first Revolutionary War and the first colonies to remind England that the colonies valued LIBERTY and wanted a DEMOCRACY, and for the common GOOD, not as support of an ANARCHIST movement. This is what La Rouche is insidiously and with carefully conducted “rallies” today (and throughout history) is doing. Plain and simple. I think you better take a really good look at what is going on around you. My father also said “the destruction of this country will come from within…” I believe he was absolutely right, and I also believe unless the REAL majority of Americans who are NOT ignorant, and who still have a brain and THINK with it, stand up and rail against this sickening, deceitful propaganda with the intent of not only destroying this country, but also our CHILDREN and turning this democracy into a military state, then our country will collapse into itself, and in very short order. Wake up. We The People had better get a clue, and fast.


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groberts1776
Comment posted May 3, 2010 @ 5:23 pm

We the people aka we the TEA partiers *don't* want them as allies. I make a point of finding them and pointing out that we and they share nothing in common. We can't force them to leave. I would remind you that Bush=Hitler was sadly a theme of left-wing protests for eight years and that the AZ legislature just got an AZ=Nazi and swastika on their sidewalk and front door respectively. Let's all ratchet down the rhetoric – for the good of the country!


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