Michael Steele Takes Credit for RNC Phone Prank

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Wednesday, August 05, 2009 at 3:35 pm

On today’s call with reporters, Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele took credit for the RNC’s response to a new Democratic National Committee ad asking voters to call Republicans and tell them to stop ginning up town hall heckling. The RNC redirected these calls from its main switchboard over to the DNC’s switchboard — a response, said Steele, to the White House arrogantly blaming regular Americans “like my mother, like my sister” for the health care impasse.

“I thought it was a good idea,” Steele said. “Don’t sit there and think you’re going to direct a bunch of angry liberals to call the RNC when I know full well what that’s all about. I get the joke. My response was, talk to your own party, because they’re the ones ginning this up.”

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wfb812
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 7:48 pm

Typical Republican douchebag. he can dish it out, but he can't take it. Steele, you're a pussy.


S in PA
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 7:55 pm

Isn't this the felony called “wire fraud”? Shouldn't he be in jail for this? I'm pretty sure if the DNC had done this to the RNC during the Bush administration Howard Dean would still be in jail.


miketheenforcer
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 8:24 pm

Michael Steele is a pathetic joke. Virtually everything he says is a laughing stock, and this little trick is no different. These right-wing nutjobs showing up at town halls accross the country are there for no other reason other than to stop the conversation. They have nothing to say. They just scream and yell
to shut down the meeting and prevent those who actually came to the meeting to learn about the health care reform legislation from doing so. I'm sure the insurance companies and right-wing think tanks who are funding this effort are very happy because they think they're winning. Keep in mind that the latest WSJ/NBC poll on this issue that the public trusts Obama over congressional Republicans on health care by a margin of more than 2-to-1 (56% to 27%). There will be a health care reform bill signed by the president this fall, with or without GOP support. Personally, I hope not one of them vote for it. The final bill will be the better for it. Although, knowing them, they'll probably try to take credit for it later, like they've done with stimulus spending in their home states and districts.
The hypocrisy of these people knows no limits.


Pam in CT
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 8:27 pm

Wheee Ha! I'm sick and tired of being accured of being paid by the RNC or part of an insurance cabal. I protest because I don't support the Obamacare plan. Period. So report me.


TMZ
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 8:27 pm

hahaha. Well Done. LIberals just think what they want. RNC is like who cares. So let them just blow hot air. The left is in charge now and messing with America. Typical liberals.


jarrod3q4eg3gq
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 8:28 pm

Ahhh projection and hypocrisy….central tenants to liberalism.


JinNAPA
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 8:30 pm

Let the GOP miss no opportunity to display themselves as mean-spirited and out of step with mainstream American. Follow the money…..from Big Insurance to puppet legislator….and so it goes.


Pam in CT
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 8:30 pm

In response to enforcer: The DEMS will NOT allow amendments to the Health Care Reform bill. The dems are blocking paricipation then whining that they are not getting bi-partisan support. Again, report me for my consitutionally protected right to strenuously disagree with governement.


danzee
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 8:32 pm

I love it. Great prank. Now if the GOP would get off their asses an organize a real response to ObamaNation, we might have something!


Russell
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 8:40 pm

I thought the Republicans were attacking Democrats for not listening? Apparently they're the ones not listening. Every day Democratic Representatives are holding town hall meetings to hear the American people and answer them and the Republicans urge them to be shot down and not given an opportunity to speak, now they don't even want to hear the opposite's viewpoint? I'm sure that's really fair and balanced.


Mike got pwnd
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 8:44 pm

“By a 44%-to-38% margin, more Americans generally oppose than favor the health care proposals now before Congress. Opposition rises to 56% among people who say they have heard a lot about legislation to overhaul the health care system. Concerns about the costs and increased government involvement in the health care system are volunteered most often by Americans critical of the health care proposals.”

Like Pew, the right-leaning Quinnipiac found that concerns over increased government spending is affecting support for ObamaCare. Congressional Democrats have proposed a mandate for individuals to purchase health insurance. Thinking about not complying? Think again. Democrats have recommended a penalty of up to 2.5 percent of gross income for individuals who disregard the mandate.

But Democratic lawmakers may want to reconsider their effort to coerce Americans into purchasing health insurance. Quinnipiac found respondents:

“strongly oppose individual mandates to carry health insurance, 68%-26%.”


AuntBarb
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 8:45 pm

The number on the RNC's website is different from the one in the DNC ad…it's 202- 863-8700. Just for good measure, here's Michael Steele's contact info–
Fax: 202-863-8820–Chairman@gop.com

the numbers for some other RNC offices….

Office of the Co-Chairman- 202-863-8545
Email: Info@gop.com

Political Campaign Operations
Phone: 202-863-8600–Email: Political@gop.com


Mike got pwnd
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 8:52 pm

Obama wants you to call him at home and tell him about any web site that is spreading lies about the health care program.

Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414


Name
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 8:57 pm

Amazing isn't it that when liberals disrupted meetings or town halls or speakers, conservatives criticized them for stifling free speech. But when conservatives do the same thing, it's just good old “grassroots” activism.


bobolini
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:00 pm

Is that legal? Sound like something that would get any teenage hacker put in jail. Michael Steele is full of jokes, pranks and aphorisms, but where's the meat?


Savantster
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:06 pm

Nice.. in other words, the right-wing said “we don't give a shit what people have to say, we're just going to keep screaming lies and bullshit as long and as loud as we can. Screw you people”.


Mike got pwnd
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:08 pm

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1298/obama-rating-f…
By a 44%-to-38% margin, more Americans generally oppose than favor the health care proposals now before Congress.


Savantster
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:12 pm

The problem is, the vast majority want “reform”, but what's in front of Congress is crap (thanks to the right-wing). Mandatory insurance is clearly wrong, what's needed is “mandatory coverage” provided for those that can't afford it.

The polls are being manipulated, just like the conversations about what's in the bill. Talking about death and how you want to spend your last days/weeks/months/years is SMART, but the intellectual gnats trying to steal you blind frame it into something so not like what's being proposed that the moron masses honestly start to believe that we're going to “kill the elderly to save money”.

the only thing being pwned is rational thought, and it's disgusting. But, then, that's the typical American for you.. self indulgent moron who cares only about themselves, every other living thing be damned.


Name
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:12 pm

I'd guess that most people who answered that poll haven't the slightest damn idea what's in the health care proposals. All they know is the spin both sides have put on it.


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Savantster
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:13 pm

Not paid, but clearly brainwashed. report you? what? Oh, right.. more brain dead bullshit thinking along the lines of “turn me in tot he KGB!!” or whatever deluded bullshit you idiots think.. right?


Savantster
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:16 pm

The right-wing fear rational debate. They have nothing to stand on when all is said and done. Their world view is “GIMME! and fuck you if you can't get any!”.

Pretty sad and disgusting.. but, that's the right-winger for ya.


Savantster
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:17 pm

I wonder how many of those opposed regularly watch Fox (read: intentionally eschew IQ points)


Mike got pwnd
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:19 pm

Why didn't the Democrats just pass the bill? They have the house, the senate and the presidency.
Are they just cowards or are they afraid of the blow back?

If they want Republican input, why forbid them to offer any amendments?


Mike got pwnd
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:22 pm

“After years of paying ACORN radicals to show up at events and having union members take paid vacations to go protest, I can see how Democrats are now incapable of recognizing free speech when they see it. They appear to have conceded the fact their government takeover of health care sends costs skyrocketing, innovation plummeting and waiting lists growing. Unable to sell Americans on the virtues of government control, Democrats have now resorted to trying to silence them.

“Among them is Congressman Lloyd Doggett, who claimed citizens spontaneously and freely expressing mainstream opinions he didn’t agree with were conspiring with Libertarians to stop government-run medicine. Libertarians didn’t organize this expression of free speech, they’re just joined by millions of other mainstream Americans in opposing this dangerous plan for government-run, rationed care.

“The Democrat war on dissent reached a peak this week when the White House posted a blog entry urging the president’s followers to find people who criticize the president, even “in casual conversation,” and forward the information to flag@whitehouse.gov. That is a brazen attempt to bully people into silence by leading them to believe any statements critical of the president will land them on the new version of the ‘White House enemies list.’”


Stacey Martin
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:25 pm

Figures.
I thought Crazy Eyes Bachman told Steele “You da man!” Doesn't look to be the case here in his cutting and running from phone calls.
And he has the nerve to talk about someone “ginning” something up? This from a party that's involved in tea-bagging?
What a coward. But please keep it up, Steele. By the way, how are you wearing your hat today, lol


Name
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:27 pm

“The Democrat war on dissent reached a peak this week when the White House posted a blog entry urging the president’s followers to find people who criticize the president, even “in casual conversation,” and forward the information to flag@whitehouse.gov.”

A blatant distortion of what was said.


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Stacey Martin
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:35 pm

LOL! You people are really out there now. First President Obama would euthanize the elderly. Then it was mandatory sex changes. Now you all are trying to spin The White House's request for the fast spreading misinformation out there. Oh and your quote is incorrect. In context, he said

“These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. ” They are not asking for names, DUH. The point was that is HOW RUMORS SPREAD.

Lies lies and more lies by the family values crowd.

But as was told a few years ago. What was the talking point?

“If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about?”
Or
“I'm not a terrorist, they can listen in on all my phone calls”.

Gee, what happened to the big bad Republicans? They sure have become whiney scary b*tches.


Stacey Martin
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:36 pm

Indeed. But that is how they thrive; by deliberately lying.


NHexvoter4u
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:49 pm

I am a voter from New Hampshire. The RNC was sued in this state over phone jamming. Now you are playing games with your own phones? I cannot support such a childish action and find it very tiring when you play such games. Your sense of humor is so warped. What you and Mr Steele find funny I find shocking but not surprising. I find that you cannot take responsibility for your actions, and are no longer worthy of my vote.


strangely_enough
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:51 pm

Translation: I love paying ridiculous sums for insurance that can be revoked the instant I become sick and no amount facts or reasoning can change my mind.
Wheee ha, indeed…


Mike got pwnd
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:52 pm

Barack Obama tells a crowd of supporters – I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCMDur9CDZ4

HCAN Playbook For Thwarting Town Hall Protesters
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2009…


strangely_enough
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:52 pm

First part yeah, second part… Umm yeah, right.


miketheenforcer
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 10:00 pm

Funny, I didn't see any of you right-wingers so concerned about spending
TRILLIONS on the Iraq war and funneling hundreds of millions of taxpayer
dollars to Bush's private army, Blackwater, whose president and founder
is now under investigation for MURDER of those who were suspected of
ratting him out to the feds. What, exactly, would be YOUR solution to
the health care crisis in this country, if you even believe there is
one? Oh, wait, I already know. Tort reform. If we could just prevent
people from suing doctors and hospitals, everything would be fine. I'm
sure the 400% inflation in health care costs over the last ten years had
nothing at all to do with the ENORMOUS increase in profits for health
insurance companies
As they raised premiums and co-payments while doing everything humanly
possible to avoid paying claims whenever possible.
This is the system you and people like you are trying to protect and
defend. This isn't 1993, folks. You're not going to win this argument
this time.


strangely_enough
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 10:01 pm

Utter nonsense.
Senate Republicans Block Own Amendments on Health Care Bill
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/scarce/how-…

What do the GOP amendments to this Senate health care bill actually say?
http://www.slate.com/id/2223023/

GOP Got Substantive Changes To Health Care Bill, Despite Claims: Slate
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/17/gop-go…

After Accepting Scores Of GOP Amendments, Senate HELP Committee Moves Health Care Legislation On Party Line Vote
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/afte…


Mike got pwnd
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 10:01 pm

A recent Zogby International/O'Leary Report poll (which surveyed 4,470 voters July 21-24 and has a margin-of-error of plus-or-minus 1.5 percentage points – internal data here), only 36 percent of ***Democratic voters*** support the Obama-Pelosi government administered health insurance plan that would put government in charge of determining what medical procedures Americans can have and when they can have them. Fifty-nine percent of Democratic voters prefer to either keep the current system in place, or want something different altogether.


strangely_enough
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 10:03 pm

Actually, if you had the wrong shirt on or the wrong bumper sticker on your car, they'd escort you out of the building W was “speaking” at.


strangely_enough
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 10:07 pm

You forgot this part:
“And if they tell you that, 'Well, we're not sure where he stands on guns.' I want you to say, 'He believes in the Second Amendment.' If they tell you, 'Well, he's going to raise your taxes,' you say, 'No, he's not, he's going lower them.' You are my ambassadors. You guys are the ones who can make the case.”


miketheenforcer
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 10:25 pm

Again, the lies just keep on comin. The key part of that is “want something different altogether”. No one wants (or is proposing, for that matter) the plan as you (and the health insurance companies)
describe it. That's how you folks think you can win this fight. By just lying and lying and lying. Who do you think is making the decisions now about what medical procedures people can have and when they can have them?? That's right, your buddies in the health insurance industry. They're deciding who lives and who dies and who goes bankrupt just because they got sick. More than 60% of the bankruptcies in this country are directly related to health care. You're really OK with that?? Of course you are, because, like the rest of your ilk, you care about no one but yourselves.

BTW…Zogby is one of the least accurate pollsters on the planet. Their polling for the 2008 election was way off the mark.


Bob Wilkins
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 10:26 pm

Steele is such a cunt.


mirandacan
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 10:39 pm

Does this fella Steele ever put any thought or reason into his statements? Everyone knows the angry callers are mad at the RNC for jeopardizing healthcare that almost 70% of the americans want.


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teresa yeisley
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 11:53 pm

[Democratic National Committee ad asking voters to call Republicans and tell them to stop ginning up town hall heckling.]

Oh the irony of it all–why we are just applying Alinski’s rule #12–made popular by your Fearless Leader, Obambi–*she says innocently*…
RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)
Where were you guys when conservative speakers were getting shouted down on campuses? Worked well on Palin.

What't the matter, your libtards don't have much of a sense of humor, do you? I love it, we are becoming community organizers and the Community Organizer in Chief is upset that we are getting in his face! Turn about's fair play, how about we all call the DNC for real, and tell them what we think of THEIR healthcare plan–or as we “right-wingers” call it–ObamaCare…Let our voices be heard!

BTW–88% of Americans are satisfied with their healthcare. 47 (supposedly) million uninsured. About one-fourth are illegal immigrants, one-fourth just don’t bother paying for it, one-fourth are eligible for existing programs, and one-fourth are in need. Can they explain why we aren’t talking about only, say, 10 to 15 million people.
(Though I read somewhere that it is really only about 8M are the true needy, about 3% of the population.) Why don't we just have a healthcare plan for these people, AND LEAVE MY HEALTHCARE THE FRICK ALONE!!!!

And don't EVEN quote from Huff Po–they are discredited as not having true credible sources. You state about the Republican amendments….HA Did these consist of 300 pages, inserted at 3 am when the voting on the bill was starting that afternoon, leaving no time to read the bill (as in the Crap and Trade Bill?) If not ,then STFU! The Republicans have offered a constructive alternative to every bill that the Democraps have pushed at them–and not once have they been considered.

We may be down, but we aren't out, and the grassroots tea partys are growing. We paid attention Obambi–and we are organizing off the internet, just like your minions did–we get calls to action just like you put out during your campaign. Obambi is starting to sweat…

Time for you all to watch “Red Dawn”, because the Wolverines are stepping out, and we will be organized for 2010. .

First time I have found something to smile about since Nov. 4th!!!! Besides the “I hope he fails” bit….


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Mike got pwnd
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 2:07 am

Where are my lower taxes? Why are they challenging states rights to control firearms within their own borders telling the states that federal law trumps their 10th amendment rights?


Mike got pwnd
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 2:22 am

Democrats knocked down an effort to make members of Congress use the public insurance option if it goes into effect, ruling it out of order because the GOP amendment wrongly infringed on the jurisdiction of the House Administration Committee.

You can see a copy of that amendment at http://bit.ly/k2v6n

Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-FL) offered an amendment that would have replaced the language in that section with a simple sentence:

“Nothing in this division shall prevent or limit individuals from keeping their current health benefit plan.”

That was defeated on a 32 to 26 vote, with three Blue Dogs supporting the amendment. http://bit.ly/TRE92

On a 29-28 vote, Democrats narrowly defeated an amendment from Rep. Nathan Deal (R-GA) that would have required more substantive ID verification for new Medicaid enrollees under the bill.

Deal and other Republicans argued that with millions of people under this plan would be automatically enrolled in Medicaid, without any guarantee that these new people are US citizens or legal residents. http://bit.ly/uo1FQ

On the issue of abortion, the committee at first provided a victory to Republicans and conservative Democrats, as they joined to approve a plan that would not require coverage of abortions in the health reform bill.

The first vote was a 31-27 victory for the amendment http://bit.ly/19MuFr – but Democrats twisted some arms not long before midnight and overturned that, defeating it the second time on a 30-29 tally.


keithjlemire
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 2:45 am

Remember all those people that turned out at Obama campaign events. I wonder what republicans would say about the will of the people if they all showed up for the first day congress was back in session to show their support for the bill.

The needs of the quiet, peaceful, rational, many, out weights the needs of the loud, annoying, ignorant few, or one.


Davethelib
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 2:52 am

teresa yeisley: Why don't we just have a healthcare plan for these people, AND LEAVE MY HEALTHCARE THE FRICK ALONE!!!!

That is what this is all about, you yammering yokel! Believe me, no one wants your fricking healthcare. No one has said they want to touch it, change it, cancel it or take it over. You like it so much, then keep it.
I realize you got yours, but everyone is not so lucky. I notice too that you're still using debunked statistics, so you must be getting ALL your info from Rush & Beck.
Personally, I think dipshits like you should just keep on jabbering, spitting & sputtering. Go polish your guns & go looking for those internment camps those nitwits at Fox go on about.
You got beat by a black guy. Get over it.
BTW, you sound fat.


Davethelib
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 3:10 am

Federal law trumps state law. That's been settled law for years. Abraham Lincoln drove a stake through the heart of the 10th Amendment 150 years ago. It was in all the papers. The Civil War. You must have heard of it.
Don't you remember all the Ho-Ha over medical marijuana? Local & state entities passed the measures, then Bush Justice guys threatened doctors with jail if they actually sold any to glaucoma patients.
Lower taxes…
I'll bet you were one of those people going around saying, “Reagan proved deficits don't matter.” 7 years ago when the Democrats proposed a Pay As You Go policy in regard to Bush's wars.
As for your guns, what firearms laws has Obama attacked? The right to carry a gun in a bar? In Church?


Davethelib
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 3:23 am

No one forbids Republicans from offering amendments. Last I heard there were some 160 Republican amendments included already. And Obama practically begged them to come to the table & join the discussion.
Instead, they want to delay the bill and give Democrats a “long, hot August” according to John Boner. They are busing teabaggers around to these townhalls in order to keep the discussion from happening at all. They know they can't win in the arena of ideas, so they just want to harass & intimidate. And apparently, they've now become violent.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/05/freshman-de…

Personally, I believe Obama should take a page from the GW Bush playbook & set up chain link enclosures miles away from the activity as “Free Speech Corrals” or whatever ridiculous name they were given. When someone wanders too close to the meetings with a political sign, the Sheriff can taser them and take them to jail, just like GW did. Jeb too, for that matter, right here in Florida.
Republicans are going to stonewall Obama at every turn. It's their stated goal.


Davethelib
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 3:30 am

Bush only spoke in front of friendly crowds, like Bob Jones, The Naval Academy, etc.
I can't remember Bush ever facing fan unfriendly crown in the US.Outside the US, the whole world was an unfriendly crowd to him. What a difference with Obama, huh?
He was also pretty popular for setting up 'Free Speech Zones”, or chain link enclosures miles from his events where protesters could do their thing. If they wandered too close, his brown shirts were real quick to 'Detain' them.


Sam
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 3:51 am

The Making Work Pay tax credit was part of the stimulus, and went into effect in early April. It reduces the average family's tax burden by about $700.

I have no idea what you're talking about in terms of trumping state law about firearms. The concealed carry amendment that was defeated recently would have reduced states' ability to control firearms within their own borders; yet the allegedly “states' rights” GOP supported it. Strange, no?


Sam
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 3:58 am

Yet that same poll shows that the actual elements of HR 3200 are supported by strong majorities. Thus it can only be concluded that the primary obstacle to reform is misinformation.


Sam
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 4:07 am

Actually that amendment — the one requiring Congress to use the public plan — is in the HELP Committee version of the bill, with bipartisan support. So I hope you will join us in pressing for the HELP bill to be preferred over the crap that's being served up in the Finance Committee.

Of course, since the public plan is optional for everyone, there's no obvious reason why it should be mandatory for Congress. But I agree that it would be an excellent gesture, and hope that it will be in the final version of the bill that emerges from conference.


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Tuci78
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 11:15 am

Well, it's getting out in the drive-by media now.

From David Hahn, “Publisher StatePaper.com ” August 5, 2009.

Publisher: Obama Should Produce Original Birth Certificate

At StatePaper.com, we know by making this statement we will be instantly tagged as “racist,” “birther,” or other pejorative terms by those who defend the President of the United States. We often defend the President and the job he is doing and are regularly lambasted for being “too liberal” or an “Obama lover” by some of our most prolific critics.

But, here is the issue:

The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of our country. Article II of the Constitution requires the President to be a natural born citizen. Without reciting them here, there appears to be some serious questions raised about whether President Obama was born in the United States or Kenya. We have not checked sources, but there are reports that some witnessed his birth in Kenya.

The President's campaign staff and then his administration have released and placed on the internet a “Certificate of Live Birth.” We do not dispute the validity or correctness of that document as others have tried to do, suggesting the use of computers to alter seals and names. By releasing this document the President agrees that the claims about his status as a natural born citizen is an open, important, public issue.

But, this “Certificate of Live Birth” is simply not the best evidence that the President and his administration could offer to lay to rest any doubt about his status as a natural born citizen.

Barack Obama is a lawyer and a graduate of Harvard Law School. All law students study the body of law we call “Evidence.” One of the core tenets of American law is the “best evidence rule” which requires the production of original, or certified copies, of original document to prove a fact. Abstracts and summaries are not original documents.

The President has offered an abstract (Certificate) of his birth, but not an original birth certificate which would be the best evidence of his birth. We need the best evidence so that it can do what the best evidence is meant to do; dispel the doubts about a fact. We need to see the Birth Certificate. That's the one that is often handwritten and signed by the doctor.

Lawyers and legal thinkers will, obviously, argue the finer points of the “Best Evidence Rule” and its applicability to this matter. But, that misses the point. The notion of “Best Evidence” is solidly-grounded in law. This is an important public matter and it seems now that the President has started down the path of offering some evidence (Certificate of Live Birth), he should offer the “best evidence” (Original Birth Certificate) which is the source document for his birth. The document behind the document which has been released. This is what is needed now in the court of public knowledge.

The fact in question here is the constitutional qualification of the President of the United States to hold office. With a simple nod, the President could offer the American people the best evidence, the source document(s), as he learned about at Harvard, and dispel those who question his birth as a natural born citizen. His failure to provide this best evidence, when it could be so easily done, raises only more questions, which fuels an ugly public debate.

I guess there are some things that not even a journalism school graduate can stomach.


crowminuteman
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 11:30 am

Yeah, you know my two Senators in Maine have certainly been active in this thing and they are both Republicans. Its guys like DeMint and Graham from South Carolina, both Republicans, that are only interested in defeating Health Care reform, Period, that get the attention. No. That is not true. The Republicans have been invited to participate and they have had their input.

The phone call trick, now you want to talk about cowards, those are the Republicans all the way. They are responsible for the heckling corps and can't face the heat they're taking from it. Like all unpleasant, untenable situations Republicans shirk from it and dump it on the Democrats to take care of.


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Name
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 1:51 pm

“What't the matter, your libtards don't have much of a sense of humor, do you?”

Oh good golly, another Freeptard robot.


Name
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 1:56 pm

Obama has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he is a citizen. Except to a handful of racist haters, this is.

Funny how conservatives accused some liberals of Bush derangement syndrome, but now that Obama is in office those same people are suffering Obama derangement syndrome at triple what the Bush syndrome was.

The latest stupid line from Freeptards and the like? Can anybody prove Obama's mother was actually pregnant with him? It won't end with idiots like this.


Name
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 1:57 pm

Obama has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he is a citizen. Except to a handful of racist haters, this is.

Funny how conservatives accused some liberals of Bush derangement syndrome, but now that Obama is in office those same people are suffering Obama derangement syndrome at triple what the Bush syndrome was.

The latest stupid line from Freeptards and the like? Can anybody prove Obama's mother was actually pregnant with him? It won't end with idiots like this.


Name
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 2:31 pm

Remember “Free Speech Zones”? Remember when police herded protesters of anything in the BushCheney Regime into these isolated zones that were oh-so-conveniently located long distances away from events?

Remember the barricades of tractor trailers used to keep us from voicing our viewpoints at their fundraisers and speeches?

Remember how tickets were required to attend their events, effectively screening out anyone with an opposing viewpoint? These tickets were issued by Rethug party officials.

Remember how, if a protester or two did manage to obtain a ticket and get into a closed BushCheney event, they would be thrown out and/or arrested?

Remember how they kept lists of screened attendees to make sure nobody with an opposing viewpoint got in?

Remember how they got police to round up everyone in given areas, regardless of whether they were protesters or passers-by, and arrest them or keep them in a contained area until a Rethug event was over?

I'm sure there were many other dirty tricks the Rethugs employed to prevent dissenters from being seen or heard. These tactics violated our rights to freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. Our hard-earned tax dollars were used to keep people from attending presidential speeches that should have been public events open to all.

Now just imagine, how you teabaggers and anti-healthcare thugs would react if any or all of these tactics were used against you.

The whines and wails of “fascism” would go on and on.

As usual, the Rethugs know how to dish it out, but…


taochiapet
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 2:46 pm

just to be clear: doctors prescribe medical marijuana, they don't sell it.

otherwise, spot on…


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freeinmt
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 5:27 pm

seriously? “I realize you got yours, but everyone is not so lucky” LUCKY? What, people who WORK and PAY for insurance and healthcare have somehow won something?That's not luck sweetheart that is responsibility. Now get back to your mommas basement, your warcraft guild is waiting on you.


Les
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 5:41 pm

Good point – Feds trump States. Must be why there's absolutely no competion in health care, since companies are exempted from fair trade laws federally and left up to states. So, when states try to impose some kind of regs on them to control premiums, they just say, “sorry, feds let us do whatever we want (collude, set prices). I think I get it.


Les
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 5:52 pm

The percentage of people favoring Obama's handling of the matter has gone down. I think because many want the public option he originally promised. We certainly could try McCain's plan, whereno one gets insurance through their employer and you're required to shop for your own effective and affordable plan. You all would know then that there is no such animal out there now.


mantis
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 6:20 pm

Tuci, you loveable little Paulbot moron, an opinion column in a web-only college newspaper is the best you can come up with?


Tuci78
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 7:49 pm

Nah. The best Barry has provided is a shadow.

A couple of images. Call it “the shadow” of a thing.

Like the image of a thing, the shadow of a thing is not the thing itself.

Computer graphic images of a supposed legal document are not said legal document itself.

Funny how Obamaphile “left-wing bloggers” keep insisting that anything about their Mombasa Messiah has been “proven” except for the fact that he's a shifty, secretive, weaseling, lying sack of shit who's given every appearance of hiding something he knows is going to land his ass in a federal prison for the rest of his miserable little life.

Can anybody prove that Barry's cellmate in Leavenworth won't get him pregnant?

Well, we'll see, won't we?


nilesmc
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 8:29 pm

FactCheck.org admits Obama's daddy was a Kenyan at the time of the Messiah's birth thereby making the Messiah a British citizen because of The British Nationality Act of 1948.

Article II, Section 1.5 is crystal clear about our Presidents were to all to be required to be 'natural born citizens'.

Now, pay attention. The definition of 'natural born citizen' at the time of the adoption of the Constitution comes from the universally accepted 'Law of Nations' by Vattel. It requires that the citizen in question be born of 'parents' (plural) who are both citizens of that nation.

For you to defend a British born self-admitted socialist as our President makes you the anti-American hater.

Have a nice day:)


dcfixer
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 8:32 pm

It's not up to Mr. Obama to prove he is a citizen. It's up to someone else to prove he isn't. Innocent till proven guilty….you know, that basic American law?


andrewr
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 11:00 pm

typical liberal comment listen to my phone calls wow nothingto hide increadible weather ive got some thing to hide or not its not the governments right to know either way it is stil america by the way who said the constitution is in place to protect the citizens from the government not the government from the citizens any of you know it all liberals know il bet the congress men and sentors dont know either, how would they none of them read the obama heath care bill either, get off there asses do there jobs abd read it or have some intern read it to them . by the way the answer is patric henry look it up hes and out fore fathers would be rolling over in there graves they wanted out of england and here in 2009 obama brings england and it socializm here


thinkforonce
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 11:09 pm

Where in the Constitution is this person's treatise adopted as the law? What is your proof that it was “universally accepted?” Under your logic, and use the term logic hesitantly, Barry Goldwater's parents should have been born in the Arizona territory (since, I am assuming, with good reason, that you accept that Goldwater was eligible to run for President).


thinkforonce
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 11:34 pm

The Best Evidence Rule actually does not apply here. An exception to that rule exists where the original document is unavailable. In this case, the Hawaiian government, under Hawaii law, cannot and will not provide it. Under such circumstances, the document is unavailable, and a photocopy will suffice. The rule only applies when there is genuine (i.e. a trier of fact could reasonably find there might be doubt as to the authenticity of the document proffered) – as opposed to manufactured – doubt about the authenticity of a document, and when a document is actually needed to prove something is true (because no witnesses or other data are available that could verify the truth of what is at issue). Making up a controversy does not make the controversy legitimate, so the BER is inapplicable to that extent. “There are reports that some witnessed his birth in Kenya” – well, under the Best Evidence Rule, those people merely need come forward, if they witnessed the alleged event, because the BER only applies when a writing is the ONLY way one can prove something. They haven't come forward. “We have not checked sources.” Well, that pretty much sums it all up, doesn't it.

Federal Rule of Evidence 1002 (which would govern a legal proceeding in federal court, where a challenge must be filed), dealing with the Best Evidence Rule, states:

Rule 1003. Admissibility of Duplicates

“A duplicate is admissible to the same extent as an original unless (1) a genuine question is raised as to the authenticity of the original or (2) in the circumstances it would be unfair to admit the duplicate in lieu of the original.”

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You've stated: “We do not dispute the validity or correctness of that document (the document you are claiming to be the duplicate – the document the you believe the law regards as the duplicate) as others have tried to do, suggesting the use of computers to alter seals and names.” Therefore, since there is no GENUINE question as to authenticity (conspiracy theorists' fantasies are not theories), and you have not explained why admitting the duplicate is unfair (cases describing when it is unfair to admit the duplicate are cases involving admission of a duplicate
that might confuse a jury, or where there is legitimate suspicion that someone is hiding the original – neither applies here), what is the Best Evidence Rule problem? The Best Evidence Rule, as all lawyers know, does not literally mean “Best Evidence.” It means that a writing (not necessarily an original) must be produced in certain cases, where something cannot be verified without resort to that writing (i.e. no one has a memory of the thing at issue independent of the writing). It does not mean that Obama must (and he would have to break the law to do this) produce what you call the 'Best Evidence.” What you call “Best Evidence” is not what is LEGALLY SPEAKING Best Evidence. You just want – and you know the law does not permit it, so you demand it to prove your circular arguments – something more “birthier” than what Obama has provided.

Rule 1001 states:

(3) Original. An “original” of a writing or recording is the writing or recording itself or any counterpart intended to have the same effect by a person executing or issuing it. An “original” of a photograph includes the negative or any print therefrom. If data are stored in a computer or similar device, any printout or other output readable by sight, shown to reflect the data accurately, is an “original”.

(4) Duplicate. A “duplicate” is a counterpart produced by the same impression as the original, or from the same matrix, or by means of photography, including enlargements and miniatures, or by mechanical or electronic re-recording, or by chemical reproduction, or by other equivalent techniques which accurately reproduces the original.
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“any counterpart intended to have the same effect by a person executing or issuing it” is an original. The truncated birth certificate on the web was intended to have the same effect by the person who signed it. Therefore, no “bestier”/”more best” evidence is needed.

Rule 1004:

Rule 1004. Admissibility of Other Evidence of Contents

The original is not required, and other evidence of the contents of a writing, recording, or photograph is admissible if–

(1) Originals lost or destroyed. All originals are lost or have been destroyed, unless the proponent lost or destroyed them in bad faith; or

(2) Original not obtainable. No original can be obtained by any available judicial process or procedure; or

Exception #2 applies here. No available judicial process can be used to obtain the original. If the original is no longer in its original form – is a valid computer printout – then it is an acceptable duplicate. If the original is lost or destroyed, exception (1) applies, since no one can prove bad faith.

As far as the alleged “Kenyan” birth certificate goes, according to the law of evidence regarding burdens of proof, persuasion and production, once someone has made a prima facie showing that he has produced an original under these rules, it is then the job of the opponent of the evidence to disprove that claim – which in this case would involve proving that there is a legitimate possibility that the “Kenyan” certificate is accurate. The document is with everything but epistemological certainty a fake; at any rate, sufficient doubt as to ITS authenticity, vis a vis the Web Certificate (and the statement made by the Hawaiian Secretary of State that this certificate is accurate), would cause the opponent of the evidence to fail to satisfy his ultimate burden of proving lack of authenticity.

Rule 1005:

Rule 1005. Public Records

“The contents of an official record, or of a document authorized to be recorded or filed and actually recorded or filed, including data compilations in any form, if otherwise admissible, may be proved by copy, certified as correct in accordance with rule 902 or testified to be correct by a witness who has compared it with the original. If a copy which complies with the foregoing cannot be obtained by the exercise of reasonable diligence, then other evidence of the contents may be given.” The Secretary of State certified that the certificate was correct. It can thus be proved by copy.

If you're going to cite the law to “prove” your fantasies, try learning the law first.


nilesmc
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 11:48 pm

1.) ? Are you REALLY trying to argue that Article II,Section1.5 holds less weight then say Article I,Section 2.2? It reads: No person shall be a representative who shall not have attained to the age of twenty-five years, and been seven years a citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen. Are these words more equal (Animal Farm reference) than the words in Article II, Section1.5?
2.) it? What are you talking about 'it'? Please clerify your arguement (clearly).
3.) You are confusing the Constitution for the [u]nited States of America with Arizona's?

Go back to sleep.


andrewr
Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 12:36 am

let take my health insurace away install sozialised heath care and pay for 20 million illegals wow great idea how long be fore illegal can exchange there cars for cash for clunkers and go back to mexico in a new car to boot isnt socializm great ilove paying for my nieghbors new car and heath insurance ,by the way my ex wife work at itw same one that obama gave money to they moved to mexico with my taxe dollars laid of my wife and hundred others bail out is working


willyhollow
Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 1:33 am

everyone seems to be forgetting one simple fact of this matter. This all started with a Democrat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zTZ_szZW_s&feat…


willyhollow
Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 2:57 am

everyone seems to be forgetting one simple fact of this matter. This all started with a Democrat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zTZ_szZW_s&feat…


Tuci78
Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 5:11 am

Nah. No background in logic at all, have you, asswipe?

Y'see, no demand can be made upon a disputant to prove a negative assertion (“A little pink china teapot does not exist in the Earth's orbit on the opposite side of the sun”). The burden of proof lies always on the disputant making a positive statement (“The person presently passing under the alias of 'Barack Hussein Obama II' is a natural-born citizen of these United States, and therefore qualified to have run for and to have been elected to the presidency”).

So it really, truly, deliciously is up to your lying sack-of-shit “poverty pimp” Cook County machine politician Mombasa Messiah to prove that he is (or ever was) a natural born citizen.

The “birther” people are just calling the question, as any citizen has a perfect right to do. You shitwad Obamaphiles are dodging the question, as any pack of lying sonsofbitches are expected to do.

But this little thing, this trivial thing, this routine demand of any honest, average American citizen – bring in your birth certificate to prove that you're who and what you say you are – your fucking Fraudulence-in-Chief CAN'T DO!

Ain't that wonderful? That utter whore, that bankster-fellating tax thief, that disgraceful excuse for a chief magistrate of this republic can't prove that he's qualified to occupy the office he unlawfully holds.

And nobody is letting up on his sorry ass. Nobody. It just won't go the fuck away, will it?

And who says we don't get at least something for all our tax dollars?


Darius
Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 5:32 am

this maybe the best idea to come out of the GOP in a long time. i don't know if that's something Republicans should be happy or sad about.


luisarodriguez
Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 3:08 pm

It's great when individuals like Mr. Steele with all kind of agendas, questionable financial past and having to apologize to an idiot drug addict! Wow Mr. Steele, how did those words you had to swallow taste? And by the way, how was it to take a couple of steps backwards because Master told you to play your position!

Morally, you are definitely spine less! But I know an Uncle Tom as your self could care less about that! But I just wanted to let you know that regardless of your efforts, you will not be accepted by the Real (Racist) Americans! Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Luis A. Rodriguez


lawrencegilkey
Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 6:56 pm

throw the BUMS out!!! Hitler failed and so will the commie librals


dcfixer
Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 11:36 pm

LMAO. That's the funniest thing I have read in a long time. Thanks for the entertainment and re-enforcement. You made my day!


Davethelib
Comment posted August 8, 2009 @ 1:02 am

Wow! You really told me!
Everybody's not LUCKY enough tho have their employer provide insurance for them.
The plan I'm stuck with is right next to useless. I have to work for a living and can't afford another $1,200 for a family plan. So, either you're a trust fund baby and money's no object, or you're fortunate enough to have someone pick up the tab. In your case, since you're a lardass housewife trolling these news sites all day, and with an unjustifiable sense of superiority I would guess the latter.
And I'm beginning to think you sit on the couch watching Fix News all day while your poor husband (and I'm sure he started regretting THAT move about 60 pounds ago) has to work 80 hour weeks to keep you in pork rinds. If working hard was all it took to get ahead in this world, then everybody would be rich.
Seriously. Nutsacks like you seem to think you're the only ones who work for a living.
Really, you should lose some weight.


Davethelib
Comment posted August 8, 2009 @ 1:27 am

You pseudo-intellectual dipwad, do you think you're the only one who ever read Richard Dawkins? Next thing, you'll be torturing the ontological argument for 'Why Obama Can't Really be President'.
This is not a dream you're going to wake up from. Face it, dipshit. You lost to a black guy. Your worst fear became a reality, so live with it. What are you, 12 years old?
You dumbass, it's been proved to everybody but racist nutsacks like you. He's shown his BC many times, you've all seen the birth announcements that ran in the local paper, the Governor (R) of Hawaii says it's true, the Director of the Dept of Health in Hawaii says it's true on a weekly basis and now there's been an act of Congress pass unanimously that says it's true. Even that transgendered zombie, Ann Coulter says it's true. So it's YOUR move, Fuck-knuckle.
Obama does not owe you an explanation for anything, Rainman.
YOU LOST. And the guy you lost to is BLACK!!!
It's time to get on with whatever passes for a life for you.
Jesus Christ, you people are such nitwits!!!!
Better still, just stay with it. Keep right on blathering about Obama's birth certificate. WAIT! It's not a birth certificate after all, it's a certification of birth! MY GOD, you could be onto something after all.
You'd better get to the bottom of this mystery, after all. Why don't you go to Kenya and dig up the truth, as soon as you get to be old enough to travel alone.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 8, 2009 @ 8:34 am

On the teapot thing, dave, Dawkins was second-handing that from Bertrand Russell, and said so explicitly. It's been around practically as long as I have.

Let's see… More “Liberal” whining and bitching…the race card, yeah…random noise…dave flashing his ass…”you people” collectivism – tch! and me being such an individualist!…

Anything interesting? Nah. Fuck off and die, dave. Like a nice little “Liberal,” why don'tcha?


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Davethelib
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 2:29 am

Typical right wing pussy talk. You talk a really big game when you're anonymous or have a group of retired housewives to hide behind.
You can't win on issues. Got your asses handed to you at the polls and can't win an argument using facts and common sense. The best you can do is try to outscream the normal people.
I've know plenty of empty headed right wing dip-wads like you over the years. You have menial jobs which you lose often because you can't get along with anyone at work, and miss often for stupid shit like teabagging parties with your other self-loathing, closeted friends. You obsess over and compulsively watch History Channel military shows and collect gun show weapons even though you couldn't be bothered to serve yourself. Your grandfather or somebody served in the big one and that's supposed to somehow reflect on you. You can't maintain a relationship with an adult woman, even though you might have been married for a few months straight out of college, and you have a concealed weapons permit that you picked up at a gun show a couple of years ago. You never quite understood why your boss won't let you carry a gun at work even though it's your God-Given Second Amendment Right Goddammit, to carry that gun on someone else's private property.
You also have a drawer full of women's underwear that you secretly wear under your clothes and spend an inordinate amount of time hanging around rest stops & bus station bathrooms.
Now, unless you have something original to say, Mr. Individualist, which I have yet to hear from you, you mewling miscreant, you can just get back to sucking cock in the park.

Just more talking points handed to you by your chickenhawk masters.


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Tuci78
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 2:52 am

What, you don't like anonymity? Many of the greatest works of political philosophy in the history of the Western world were uttered anonymously. Cato's Letters. The pamphlets of the Levelers. John Locke's Two Treatises of Civil Government. The manifesto of The White Rose in Nazi Germany. Without anonymity, these defenders of individual rights would've been killed outright by the authoritarians of their day.

Indeed, the members of the White Rose were caught by the Gestapo, “tried,” and guillotined.

Anonymity is a protection of free speech against violent suppression – such as you would like to impose, Dave.

As for “issues,” when this one particular issue – the imperious arrogance of Barry Soetoro refusing to produce even something as commonplace as a birth certificate in demonstration of his alleged qualification to serve as President of these United States – the matter is overwhelmingly favorable to the constitutionalist side.

Think about it. We've got a sad sack of shit socialist “poverty pimp” in the White House who is claiming that the contents of his “long-form” birth certificate are a matter of sovereign immunity.

Won't be divulged. His birth certificate.

This means that the contents of Barry's true and full birth certificate are so deadly to him that giving his permission to the officers of the state of Hawaii to open that information to free public scrutiny is the political equivalent (to him) of downing a glassful of solution of potassium cyanide.

Ain't that great? Think “Achilles' heel” and “Barry, you are fucked!“

And us constitutionalists really don't have “talking points” handed down from on high. That's for you Obamaphile assholes, in your daily email push to “left-wing bloggers” from Messiah Central.


Davethelib
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 3:15 am

There you go with that Birth Certificate bullshit again. You really are a monomaniac. This red herring really is your white whale, isn't it? (forgive the mixed metaphor, I just couldn't resist) Give it up. Like I said before, even the most rabid of you right wing nutbags has admitted that that is a load of garbage. Personally, I love it that you are willing to waste so much energy on something so useless, but it is starting to get in the way when the grownups try to talk.
Do you really believe that you need to be anonymous out of fear of being what, arrested? Picked up in some kind of purge? Guillotined? You're psychotic!
Were you asleep for the last 8 years or something? I've been called a traitor, and a terrorist enabler. An appeaser, though the folks using that particular word never seemed to understand what it really meant.
Once again, this is all just typical talk of the average right wing pussy. You come on talking tough and when someone like me refuses to be bullied, then all of a sudden you're the victim. “Help, Help, I'm being repressed!”
The real issue here is that you are accustomed to being the the ruling demographic. You feel the ground shifting beneath your feet and it scares you. Well, that's not my problem. We're not going back to some fictional Ozzie & Harriet America that never really existed at all. Time marches on and it always marches forward. Never backward. Always forward. So you can either get with the program, come up with some ideas yourself, or shut the fuck up.


Davethelib
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 3:29 am

“We've got a sad sack of shit socialist “poverty pimp” in the White House”

Oh yeah. Don't forget elitist, arugula eating, garden planting, mustard chomping foreign Budweiser drinking, hybrid driving, Nazi Communist, mom jean wearing, flowery rhetoric spewing, nothing saying, authoritarian dictator.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 3:31 am

Nah, not even close. You're the one screaming in pain, Dave.

Y'see, you've gotta squeal “Birth Certificate bullshit” because you know altogether too perspiringly well that this is what's going to precipitate the political destruction of your beloved Barry, and that just tears you a bleeding new asshole every time you've got to confront it.

And I'm Sicilian. The last time my folks got close to being in “the ruling demographic,” we were marching with Spartacus (Third Servile War, 53-71 B.C.), and Marcus Licinius Crassus slammed the door on us pretty goddam hard.

Hell, us Sicilians have spent more centuries in slavery than the American blacks ever had. Their brief stint as chattel is merely more recent than ours.

Oh, yeah. Thanks for the link. In repayment:

http://rightsoup.com/new-obama-documentary-a-qu…

“Share and enjoy!”


Tuci78
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 3:34 am

Tsk. “73-71 B.C.” Too much blood in the caffeine stream again. Calling Maxwell House!


Tuci78
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 3:45 am

Dunno about “arugula eating.” But he sure got his ass in a crack over his taste for Wagyu steak, didn't he?

Ever wonder where Barry got the money to attend Occidental College, to graduate from Columbia University, and later on – with nothing more than a “poverty pimp” income – to go off to the Cambridge campus of Patrice Lumumba University and attend Harvard Law?

If he had student loans for any of this, he didn't disclose them on his financial history statement when he entered the U.S. Senate in 2005.

Hm. Now where did all that money come from? And how did poor-but-honest (hah!) Barry and Michelle come to afford that big mansion in Chicago?


In June 2005, Obama purchases a mansion in Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood for $1.65 million ($300,000 less than the asking price), with the help of friend, fundraiser, and political “fixer” Tony Rezko. (The original signed contract was dated January 23, 2005.) Although Obama’s eventual down payment is $330,000, his initial earnest money is an astoundingly low $1,000 — when one per cent of the purchase price ($16,500) would typically be expected. Tony Rezko’s wife Rita, who earns $37,000 per year in a position with Cook County government, purchases the empty lot adjacent to the Obama house for the full price of $625,000, with a down payment of $125,000. Both the house and the empty lot were owned by Fredric Wondisford and Sally Radovick. Obama’s 5.625 per cent mortgage is for $1.32 million, through the Northern Trust Bank, and he pays no origination fee or discount points. At the time of the purchase, it is already widely known that Rezko is under investigation by federal authorities, but Obama deals with him anyway. (Three weeks before the purchase, $3.5 million is loaned to Rezko by Nadhmi Auchi, a wealthy Iraqi who lives in England; Rezko is eventually convicted in 2008 of receiving kickbacks for political favors.) Rita Rezko then sells a 10-foot strip of the empty lot to Obama, for $104,500. The transaction leaves Rezko with an unusable empty lot with no street access — that cost her over $500,000. Rezko later asks Obama to help Auchi obtain a visa to travel in the United States in 2005. The State Department refuses, partly because Auchi, a member of Saddam Hussein’s Baath Party and former high-ranking official in his Oil Ministry, had been found guilty of corruption charges in France.

Source: http://www.colony14.net/id41.html


That's your Messiah. Such a “man of the people!”

But what people?


Davethelib
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 3:45 am

Wow, you really got me there. I'm perspiring in my little liberal boots. Worried to death. Keep right on obsessing. I'm enjoying it.
Palin/Joe-The-Plumber in 2012!!
Rightsoup.com? Come on, you can do better than that.
Maybe I can help you find some more Obama-bashing propoganda on Newsbusters, or maybe Breitbart.
Sicilian is still a step above black though, right?
C'mon, we know that's what this is really all about, right?
Spartacus did put the fear in the Romans for a while, though.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 3:49 am

Aw, Dave. I offer you a convenient Web site where all the parts of that long video are conveniently available, and you just shove your head further up your ass and whine.

Is that gratitude? Tsk.


Davethelib
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 4:08 am

I've already seen that site.
I have to admit, you are definitely steeped in the Obama Mysteries.
It's obvious that Obama's parents and grandparents, as part of a plan to secretly kill old people and mandate sex reassignment surgeries at some point in the distant future and knowing that little Obama was destined to live in the White House one day travelled to Kenya illegally a year before it existed in order to confer dual citizenship through a special dispensation since that wasn't legal in the future Kenya.
They then colluded with the heath department and several papers in Hawaii to get their cover story straight.
Then Obama was whisked to Indonesia to secretly attend the Madrassa, whare he was secretly trained as a sleeper assassin/dictator-in-waiting by the age of ten.
He then returned to Hawaii for a while, to firm up that cover story before moving to Kansas with his grandparents. Presumably this is where the funding for his secret and evil education was put in place.
You see, he didn't have any trouble making these contacts since he was destined for political power one day. And these underworld figures are naturally drawn to his evil glow of power. Evil.
I'm still waiting to hear why GWB refused to release his military record and show how Arbusto Oil scored those lucrative (for anybody else, but somehow not for him) Saudi drilling contracts ahead of such companies as Sunoco & Exxon. Even though Arbusto couldn't find oil in Texas.
Or why his brother illegally disenfranchised 28,000 Democratic voters here in Florida right before the 2000 election. Or why former campaign manager/heiress turned supervisor of elections Katherine Harris certified an obviously flawed ballot count.

Conspiracies everywhere. Hopefully you'll get your answers sooner than I got mine.


Davethelib
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 4:14 am

I told you, I've already seen it. Which one of those words threw you?
And exactly what part of anything I've said could possibly be construed as a whine?
I think I've been pretty consistently clear that you are just out of your gourd. That you are a pseudo-intellectual with an over developed sense of self aggrandizement. You are obviously off your meds and I offered to help you find like minded schizophrenics so you can wring your hands together over what Obama's going to secretly do next.
I tried.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 4:22 am

Well, I'm glad you'd seen A Question of Eligibility before. You certainly don't act as if you had.

But, then, with an Obamaphile, telling what he honestly knows as opposed to what he's been directed to mouthe – without “waterboarding” him a bit – isn't easy, is it?


Davethelib
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 4:36 am

I saw it. That doesn't mean it's not a work of complete buffoonery, but I have seen it. I get my info from a wide variety of sources. None of which is Fox News, it must be said.
But I've had enough fun with you for tonight, so you can thorazine shuffle off to you ward now.
As for me, I have another night of whining myself to sleep knowing that Obama's in the White House for another 89 months.
As for you, I'm sure you have group tomorrow. Or at least your Obama Derangement Syndrome support group must be meeting tomorrow.


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Comment posted August 31, 2009 @ 1:49 am

I truly would like to see the Republican Party, the RNC, and all your cohorts start dealing with the truth when it comes to health care reform and absolutely stop this fear mongering. When it comes to RNC Chairman Michael Steele, I find you a despicable, two-faced, evil looking and acting despot. You are an embarrassment to your own race — the human race!

Deal with the fax, deal with truth, and let the chips fall where they may but do not do what you're doing right now because it is obviously partisan, it will backfire on you for sure and you are not considering the American people in the slightest. As a physician I can tell you that we desperately need to have healthcare reform and that we have to make healthcare reform available to the entire population and especially those of us who are working and cannot afford decent health care or have been excluded by the Insurance Death Panels because of pre-existing conditions


toptwome
Comment posted September 5, 2009 @ 8:25 pm

FactCheck.org States that President Obama was born in Hawaii. He is a U.S. citizen and was born to an American mother and an African father. Thank the Lord he is our President. We sure need his intelligent leadership to undo the harm republicans caused while worshipping Bush,s corrupt and evil policies.


Tuci78
Comment posted September 5, 2009 @ 11:19 pm

FactCheck – like Barry Soetoro himself – is a creature of the Annenberg Foundation, and is not a reliable reporter in matters concerning Barry Soetoro's qualification to serve as President of these United States. Note that on none of FactCheck's Web pages will you find sworn attestations on the part of any FactCheck employee as to the character of the document and computer graphic images they had received from the Obama campaign in June 2008, nor is any member of the FactCheck crew qualified as an expert in forensic documents.

Neither are any of them officers of any court of law.

The fundamental putridity of FactCheck as an information source is that they explicitly qualify themselves as “impartial.”

This is impossible. Everybody has some partiality or other, particularly in the realm of politics. For any group or person to claim “impartial” status reveals either self-deception on a scale approaching the psychotic or intent to deceive.

And – guess what? – they've suckered you right out of your socks, you pitiful Obamaphile.


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