Comments on: DNC Goes After ‘Sham’ Town Hall Protests

By: mikeoliphant

mikeoliphant — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:17:20 +0000

Being a Utah health insurance underwriter for www.BenefitsManager.net and www.DentalInsuranceUtah.net I have the opportunity to consult within many state insurance committee meetings. Some interesting changes took place in Utah with the passage of House Bill 188 that other states should pay attention to and perhaps the federal legislation. The bill created a state insurance pool requiring private health insurance carriers to come together and underwrite risk. Through governmental guidelines (which I have traditionally opposed in the past) they created a arena of underwriting rules that essentially guarantees the participating insurance carriers a ?no loss? or ?no gain? over each other. What this essentially means is that they pool the underwriting medical risk and spread it evenly among each carrier. All the sudden, we see guaranteed issued policies. We see rates drop by as much as 13% In Utah, our average monthly family rate is $867 for a $500 deductible plan. Some of the family rates within the ?Utah Insurance Exchange Portal? are approaching $700.00 now. To see more of HB 188 and see how Utah wrangled change without increasing taxes or rationing go to: http://www.prweb.com/releases/utah_health_insur...
The private insurance sector can be corralled into cooperation where they can meet their goals. You have to understand that health insurance carriers are only looking for a 4-5% administration fee. That is it and they are more efficient as compared to a governmental portal that will cost more money. Take a look at Utah folks!

By: ferdberfelmerfel

ferdberfelmerfel — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:51:32 +0000

You dopes are incorragable. Your 5 facts about anti-reform mobs above above is total bogus left-wing bullshit. You didn't even get into naming the 5, and the protesters have become “mobs”. Gimme a break. Not one specific example. Not one name. Not one antecdote. Your story is nothing but a lot of hot air. It's okay when the leftists protest – it's patriotism, it's old-fashioned demonstrating, blah – blah -blah. BUT – when the righties/centrists/independents/libertarians do it – ITS FUCKING ANTI-AMERICAN THUGS and MOBS!!!! Fuck you!

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By: Jack

Jack — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:35:17 +0000

I reported that letter to the flag email address since it's full of lies and disinformation

By: mantis

mantis — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:22:15 +0000

Tuci, you loveable little Paulbot moron, an opinion column in a web-only college newspaper is the best you can come up with?

By: Name

Name — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:17:02 +0000

LaLee, thanks

A commenter at Weigel's last place of employment makes a great case for the "sham" protests: http://www.reason.com/blog/show/135251.html#134...

By: LaLee

LaLee — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:06:38 +0000

“Dems and current public option supporters do not want debate.”

Gee, i didn't know the town hall protester is a “dem” /Sarcasm.

By: Name

Name — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:38:11 +0000

Glad you asked.

We could tax healthcare benefits as we do with any other income. This is affectively a subsidy for the healthcare industry, and (for many) unnecessarily ties healthcare to employment. Reform insurance laws to allow insurers to provide the same policies across state lines. Reform AMA licencesure requirements to allow nurse practitioners act as primary care. Promote and expand the HSA program. I was on such a program until recently. It works like a catastrophic plan (high deductible), but with a pre-tax savings account where the money rolls over year after year. Reform FDA regs to give high risk patients access to developmental drugs and also to streamline the drug approval process. The whole co-pay for an office visit model of insurance is nonsensical. Health insurance should cover expensive procedures not routine maintenance. Additionally, the gov't could offer vouchers and/or tax rebates for those uninsured who fall below a certain income level.

Will any of these ideas be enacted? No. Will they even be debated? No. Dems and current public option supporters do not want debate. They just want their damn bill passed.

By: Tuci78

Tuci78 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:16:59 +0000

Well, it's getting out in the drive-by media now.

From David Hahn, "Publisher StatePaper.com " August 5, 2009.

Publisher: Obama Should Produce Original Birth Certificate

At StatePaper.com, we know by making this statement we will be instantly tagged as "racist," "birther," or other pejorative terms by those who defend the President of the United States. We often defend the President and the job he is doing and are regularly lambasted for being "too liberal" or an "Obama lover" by some of our most prolific critics.

But, here is the issue:

The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of our country. Article II of the Constitution requires the President to be a natural born citizen. Without reciting them here, there appears to be some serious questions raised about whether President Obama was born in the United States or Kenya. We have not checked sources, but there are reports that some witnessed his birth in Kenya.

The President's campaign staff and then his administration have released and placed on the internet a "Certificate of Live Birth." We do not dispute the validity or correctness of that document as others have tried to do, suggesting the use of computers to alter seals and names. By releasing this document the President agrees that the claims about his status as a natural born citizen is an open, important, public issue.

But, this "Certificate of Live Birth" is simply not the best evidence that the President and his administration could offer to lay to rest any doubt about his status as a natural born citizen.

Barack Obama is a lawyer and a graduate of Harvard Law School. All law students study the body of law we call "Evidence." One of the core tenets of American law is the "best evidence rule" which requires the production of original, or certified copies, of original document to prove a fact. Abstracts and summaries are not original documents.

The President has offered an abstract (Certificate) of his birth, but not an original birth certificate which would be the best evidence of his birth. We need the best evidence so that it can do what the best evidence is meant to do; dispel the doubts about a fact. We need to see the Birth Certificate. That's the one that is often handwritten and signed by the doctor.

Lawyers and legal thinkers will, obviously, argue the finer points of the "Best Evidence Rule" and its applicability to this matter. But, that misses the point. The notion of "Best Evidence" is solidly-grounded in law. This is an important public matter and it seems now that the President has started down the path of offering some evidence (Certificate of Live Birth), he should offer the "best evidence" (Original Birth Certificate) which is the source document for his birth. The document behind the document which has been released. This is what is needed now in the court of public knowledge.

The fact in question here is the constitutional qualification of the President of the United States to hold office. With a simple nod, the President could offer the American people the best evidence, the source document(s), as he learned about at Harvard, and dispel those who question his birth as a natural born citizen. His failure to provide this best evidence, when it could be so easily done, raises only more questions, which fuels an ugly public debate.

I guess there are some things that not even a journalism school graduate can stomach.

By: LaLee

LaLee — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:36:11 +0000

“You can be against the public option reform, and STILL think there needs to be health care reform.”

So what's YOUR idea of health reform other than public option?