Town Hall Crashers: ‘Turn the Tables on Our Fuhrer’

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Wednesday, August 05, 2009 at 10:27 am

On Tuesday, Rep. Russ Carnahan (D-Mo.) held a press conference on the “cash for clunkers” program and was met by “dozens” of conservative protesters trying to drown him out. The protest was organized by the St. Louis Tea Party, whose Bill Hennessy told protesters the location, the time, and what to bring (“Sign ideas: Cash for Clunkers destroys old cars; ObamaCare destroys old people”).

On the day of the protest Hennessy put up another post attacking the White House for setting up an email address to answer questions about “fishy” rumors about health care reform.

Barack Obama wants to turn everyone into a Nazi snitch.

The Nazis used snitches, including children, to turn in enemies of the state.  Barack Obama has unleashed a program inspired by the National Socialists to identify and, presumably, punish citizens who speak out against socialized medicine. [...]

Eric Odom of American Liberty Alliance wants to turn the tables on our Fuhrer.

Yesterday, Republicans pushed back against Democratic attacks on the town hell hecklers by calling them “middle class Americans” who weren’t part of the fringe.

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ChaosRob
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 3:03 pm

The most frightening thing about this so-called “grassroots” protest is where it's coming from.

Large healthcare businesses are bankrolling PR strategies that teach people to call the President of the United States, “Fuhrer.” These companies are spending the goodwill and unity of this nation to preserve their profits. They've even gone as far as agitating unstable people to start planning armed attacks.

It's the most shocking, disgusting thing I've ever seen in business, and I urge all people of good conscience to hold these companies accountable for it. Start calling insurers and pharma firms and ask them why they're willing to destroy our society to maintain the highest healthcare prices in the world.


wfb812
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 3:30 pm

They'll call him fuhrer, stalin and satan, all because they can't call him what they REALLY want to call him, and retain whatever little credibility they have to the outside world.


strangely_enough
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 3:37 pm

“town hell hecklers” Good one.
I'm sure there are some pols that probably make that slip, too…
Got to love astroturf.


Monax
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 3:47 pm

ChaosRob… Sure. You've got it all figured out.


EileenLeft
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 3:57 pm

When the GOP, the lobbyists, the major Health Insurance and Pharma corporations, and their ignorant pawns can't win with facts, they turn to pathetic lies and ugly insults. I hope the FBI and Secret Service is keeping a close eye on these teabagger, racist, mob mentality, criminals. They are anti-democracy, anti-patriotic, & anti-American! We should ALL go to these Town Hall meetings, stand in front of the crazies, hush and shame them for their actions. No posters or ridiculous bumperstickers on their foreheads should be allowed. And the people in the room should not be bussed in. They need to do an picture I.D. check at the door to make sure that the only people in the room are actual constituents of the Congress person or Senator!
All these crazies are getting more and more violent and threatening our GREAT President. They HAVE to be watched by the FBI and Secret Service.
We have to have health care reform with Public Option, and these pawns have no clue how much they are being used, or how much what they are doing will actually hurt them and their families in the long run!


Nixon
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 3:58 pm

I would agree calling Obama the Fuhrer might be a bit over the top, but you can't deny that there are people genuinely pissed off about excessive federal spending (and not just the fringe). Have you seen the state of the Republican Party lately? I doubt they'd be able to get everyone's name spelled right on the RNC website let alone organize some massive nationwide “astroturf” campaign.


Nixon
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 4:01 pm

First the WhiteHouse wants people to flag anyone with a dissenting opinion, and now you want anyone who protests to be on some FBI Watch List? Good thing I'm living abroad at the moment. Sheesh.


bostondreams
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 4:15 pm

How is setting up an email address in any way a method to punish those who spread false rumors? It's to freaking answer questions, which the fool Hennessey acknowledges by, you know, encouraging people to ask questions.

These people wouldn't know socialism if Zombie Karl Marx ate their brain. And the Joker? Really? An ANARCHIST used to spread fears of socialism? How utterly stupid.


slimslowslider
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 4:54 pm

So true


srsjones825
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 5:23 pm

To steal a phrase from Ronald Reagan, I didn't leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left me… WTF!

It's a party of friggin' pod people!


NewsCorpse
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 5:40 pm

I think the first report of something “fishy” that should be sent in is the rumor that Obama wants to turn people into Nazi snitches.

This is hilarious. The web page that asks people to send in info explicitly states that it is referring to “Scary chain emails and videos [that] are starting to percolate on the internet.” It is concerned about disinformation creeping into the public dialogue – not private citizens expressing their opinions.

But leave it to the gang that came up with Tea Bagging and Birtherism to get everything wrong.


wfb812
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 6:13 pm

Or maybe the White House wants to answer all cirticisms aimed at the health plan. Ever think of that? No, it's much easier to dive into the paranoia pool and think they're all out to get you. Very appropriate nickname you have.


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Joemama
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:33 pm

Actually you should use the right informers when you are downing Obama. It is more akin to the Soviet system where you are supposed to snitch out your neighbors for counterrevolutionary thought or “wrecking.” So this Obama “Inform on the Health Care Wreckers” email should be more of a Stalist tactic. So an Obama as Stalin meme would be more apt.


Joemama
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 9:40 pm

I guess you would just love to live in the Police State that would come out of putting people on an FBI watch list simply for showing up at a town hall meeting. McCarthyism was a failed GOP tactic and the Dems should know that. Also will you extend the same FBI watch list to MoveOn, ACORN, and Code Pinko? They all used the exact same tactics in the past.


SpacelySpaceSprockets
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 12:05 am

Yes, because the Black Guy in the White House is exactly like Hitler. Jesus Christ, who thinks this shite up?


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LaLee
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 4:34 am

Nixon, a person doesn't need to be able to spell to get people riled up.

For example, the “Obama Birth Certificate” people.


LaLee
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 4:51 am

Monax, i've read the records of your comments at Disqus and see that you think LEO D'ONOFRIO a credible attorney?

You may believe whatever you want about Obama or his policies or even his citizenship status but D'onofrio is NOT A CREDIBLE ATTORNEY.

He's as “credible” as Orly Taitz who got her degree from UNACCREDITED online school
(FYI Orly lawyer license only valid in California).


Tuci78
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 11:17 am

Well, it's getting out in the drive-by media now.

From David Hahn, “Publisher StatePaper.com ” August 5, 2009.

Publisher: Obama Should Produce Original Birth Certificate

At StatePaper.com, we know by making this statement we will be instantly tagged as “racist,” “birther,” or other pejorative terms by those who defend the President of the United States. We often defend the President and the job he is doing and are regularly lambasted for being “too liberal” or an “Obama lover” by some of our most prolific critics.

But, here is the issue:

The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of our country. Article II of the Constitution requires the President to be a natural born citizen. Without reciting them here, there appears to be some serious questions raised about whether President Obama was born in the United States or Kenya. We have not checked sources, but there are reports that some witnessed his birth in Kenya.

The President's campaign staff and then his administration have released and placed on the internet a “Certificate of Live Birth.” We do not dispute the validity or correctness of that document as others have tried to do, suggesting the use of computers to alter seals and names. By releasing this document the President agrees that the claims about his status as a natural born citizen is an open, important, public issue.

But, this “Certificate of Live Birth” is simply not the best evidence that the President and his administration could offer to lay to rest any doubt about his status as a natural born citizen.

Barack Obama is a lawyer and a graduate of Harvard Law School. All law students study the body of law we call “Evidence.” One of the core tenets of American law is the “best evidence rule” which requires the production of original, or certified copies, of original document to prove a fact. Abstracts and summaries are not original documents.

The President has offered an abstract (Certificate) of his birth, but not an original birth certificate which would be the best evidence of his birth. We need the best evidence so that it can do what the best evidence is meant to do; dispel the doubts about a fact. We need to see the Birth Certificate. That's the one that is often handwritten and signed by the doctor.

Lawyers and legal thinkers will, obviously, argue the finer points of the “Best Evidence Rule” and its applicability to this matter. But, that misses the point. The notion of “Best Evidence” is solidly-grounded in law. This is an important public matter and it seems now that the President has started down the path of offering some evidence (Certificate of Live Birth), he should offer the “best evidence” (Original Birth Certificate) which is the source document for his birth. The document behind the document which has been released. This is what is needed now in the court of public knowledge.

The fact in question here is the constitutional qualification of the President of the United States to hold office. With a simple nod, the President could offer the American people the best evidence, the source document(s), as he learned about at Harvard, and dispel those who question his birth as a natural born citizen. His failure to provide this best evidence, when it could be so easily done, raises only more questions, which fuels an ugly public debate.

I guess there are some things that not even a journalism school graduate can stomach.


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mantis
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 6:22 pm

Tuci, you loveable little Paulbot moron, an opinion column in a web-only college newspaper is the best you can come up with?


Monax
Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 6:31 am

Do you judge issues based upon where a proponent or opponent studied or how many states they passed the bar exam? Guess that leaves poor Abe Lincoln off your list of credible attorneys. As to Taitz, she is an immigrant from the FSU and someone who has passed a bar exam that is arguably the world's most difficult(California) Ms Taitz is therefore admitted to practice law in all California courts and in all Federal District Courts, Circuit Courts of Appeals and the US Supreme Court. This makes her no different from someone who graduated from Boalt Hall.

Of course you probably know that Hillary Clinton failed the DC bar exam and had to settle for an Arkansas license, right?

As to D'Onofrio, I know nothing about him and even if I did, i would not base my opinions of constitutional law on his research. I've done my own, and I simply refer people to his website/blog because he just happens to be 100% correct in his analysis of the Natural Born Citizen issue. I don't like his arrogance but that's just who he is. I believe further that Phil Berg holds the same opinion.

I can't understand why people who don't have a good factual argument or who can't use reason to support their hopes and beliefs will invariably do as you have done…attack personalities, i.e. the messenger.

I hope you are a reasonable person, LaLee, and can understand the seriousness of the matter. Presidents are in a position to destroy, they must be totally transparent and have unquestioned loyalty to their nation. The founders understood and so must we.

Anyway, I appreciate the heads up on Leo, I don't know anything about him, but as i said, who he is, where he studied are all irrelevant


LaLee
Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 7:18 am

Monax, where a lawyer study his law maybe irrelevant to you but if you seriously want to have your case be considered then you need a CREDIBLE LAWYER.

Anyway you have every right to be distrustful of Obama but his BC is not the “magic bullet,” so to speak, against him.

If anything this BC issue helps made Obama's political enemies look silly and ridiculous just like the “9/11 truther” made the war protesters look ridiculous.


coffeelady
Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 11:43 am

Now the republicans are saying that the unions are causing the disruptions at the town hall meetings. When did the republicans become such lemmings? Is the health insurance industry paying these people they are bussing in to disrupt town meetings? I thought we lived in a democratic democracy where everyone has a voice in our government. I agree that there needs to be more control at the town hall meetings. I suggested to our representative that you should have to show a Voter's Registration Card that shows her district in order to be allowed in. Her constituents have a right to questin her without interlopers drowning out debate.


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Comment posted August 8, 2009 @ 4:39 am

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connie
Comment posted September 3, 2009 @ 3:02 am

You are confused. The people being bussed into the town hall meetings are members of Organizing for America (Obama's worshippers) and the SEIU thugs. Real Americans are the ones who live here and go to the meetings to demand answers. No posters allowed? Wow! You ARE the epitome of what we Conservatives find so disgusting with the left. Everything is fine with you until it's YOUR cause taking the heat.
And yes, I am a teabagger, racist, criminal with a mob mentality lol. That is so funny. I'm a handicapped 57 year old woman, but I do know what is right for our country. And the OBAMA REGIME is not!!


chesapeakepatriot
Comment posted September 3, 2009 @ 3:11 am

ChaosRob – evidentally it is totally foreign to you to believe Conservatives can think for themselves and don't have to be “bankrolled” by big business. We have brains and don't naturally drink the kool-aide the left tries to feed us.

If you believe these big businesses have to agitate people to come together to protect the Constitution of our once great Country, you are extremely delusional.


Tuci78
Comment posted September 3, 2009 @ 8:32 am

A worthwhile comment drawn from The Libertarian Enterprise is L. Neil Smith's recent essay “They Never Paid Attention Until We Started Yelling.”

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Those who “represent” us know exactly who and what they are. They don't give a damn about what their constituents want. They don't give a damn about the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. They don't give a damn about right and wrong. (A city councilman once asked me — it was clear he sincerely wished to understand — if I didn't feel unduly restrained, limited by having principles. Note: he was a Republican.) The only thing that they really fear is not getting reelected, being deprived of their absurd overpayment for the “service” of destroying America, missing their shot at the next rung on the ladder to absolute power.

As I've been saying for decades, there is enormous anger simmering just below the surface of America's Productive Class. Year after year, decade after decade, century after century, they have labored hard to supply everything necessary and good in our society — from diesel fuel to lemon meringue pie, from the wheels that get us from one place to another, to the homes in which we find our refuge and comfort — only to have the rewards of their labor snatched away by rapacious parasites intent on controlling every moment and aspect of their lives.

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To the average politician, newspaper columnist, hairsprayed TV commentator, or Hollywood airhead, suburbia is a kind of despicable, disgusting, fetid swamp to be crawled out of, rather than as close to Utopia as humankind has ever come, the locus of all the wishes, hopes, and aspirations of a people whose only wish is to be left the hell alone.

And all these idiots can think of — congressthings and others of the so-called “dominant culture” who believe they own us — is how to suppress that anger for another year, another decade, another century. They desperately want to deny that their opposition is significant and serious. They want to dismiss it as right-wing racism and childish ingratitude. It would never occur to them to consider what that anger might be about, or that it might be justified. They simply want it managed. It's probably too late for that, but they'll be the last to know.

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