‘What They Call Mob Rule the Average American Calls Democracy’

Elections are democratic. Disagreement is democratic. Heated policy discussions are democratic. Shouting down others in order to prevent them from speaking is simple thuggery.

Hm. Mr. Weigel, you were hired by The Washington Independent to report on the conservative side of the so-called “political spectrum” or against them?

You're making it clear that the latter is the case. Is this your idea of “objectivity” in journalism, or are you just blowing it out your ass?

It begs no questions, except for certain reporters.

Rachel Maddow was incensed that the Code Pink pests barged in on just about any meeting they wanted, even where security was warrented, but a townhall meeting is not one of those places where the big kuhanas are all gathered in one place to hash out policy or hear testimoney from Gen. Petraeus, etc.

It is a gathering of townsfolk, and is not to be confused with one of the many Orwellian informercials Obama blows hot air around in when telling us, for example, that “heath care” reform both is and yet is not single payer, etc. It is for and on behalf of the people.

Is this diggable?

Teachable moment here?

*tap tap* Hello?

Is this thing on?

Rachel Maddow was incensed that the Code Pink pests barged in on just about any meeting they wanted, even where security was warrented

Meant to add she was incensed that they were forcibly removed from the building for doing so…

Well, to have a “Teachable moment” you need educable students.

Obamaphiles? Especially the “left-wing bloggers” who get their marching orders in daily email push messages from Messiah Central, complete with “talking points” on what Barry's ACORN handlers want them to emphasize while playing their “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!” games?

Nah. Too much like CPR on Lenin's corpse.

True, but for the main movers and shakers who post this crappola here, it should come to the attention of some of them that some of us jat jawed country-fried Republicans do in fact know what they are up to, and don't dig the hypocrisy.

That won't make them any smarter for the efforts, but maybe like those spoiled brats in Charlie and the Chocolate, they'll be a little wiser for the wear and maybe tell the full story on some occasions.

History shows us Italy began it's slide into facism when the fascisti Blackshirts began showing up at every public meeting and shouting down anyone who tried to engage in civil discourse, democracy in action.

Because at their core, the right (in Italy 75 years ago, or in the US today) simply don't believe in democracy or civil discourse. They want to be in charge, they want it their way, all the time, and it doesn't matter if the American people voted otherwise.

Let's recall the GOP used this same tactic in Florida in 2000, when they ordered their staffers to fly down to FL to “shut it down” when Miami-Dade announced their intention to count ALL votes.

And there is a major difference between these and the Code Pink demostrators who almost universally never got in the door of any GOP event, instead demonstrating outside.

And look at the types involved in these astroturf demonstrations…hanging people in effigy (shades of the '60s!)…the neoNazi waving his swastika sign…the guy in CT calling on Sen Dodd to just take painkillers and die!

Truth is, it's the pushing of this sort of uncivil behavior that steadily pushes people to react violently, and its only going to get worse since Obama isn't going anywhere, and particularly if Democrats press on with their agenda, just ignoring the screamers. Let's not forget we've already experienced a sharp increase in right-wing violence, even murders, this last year.

Sadly, the GOP of a generation ago, who would have condemned such unseemly and illegal behavior are now gone, replaced with the new generation who are instead cheering mob intimidation and violence.

What matters that they know if of what they know they deny?

You're dealing here with a phenomenon known in clinical psychiatry as “thought blocking” on the part of the Obamaphiles. So many of these – is the expression “Bush Derangement Syndrome” appropriate here? – people have been so scarred by the past eight years of Rotarian Socialist domination and abuse and arrant unconstitutionality that they're not fully compos mentis.

Their Great White Hope (and Barry's at least half white, after all, even though he's learned to “fake black” well enough to sucker the gullible) is the person and persona of their Mombasa Messiah, and pointing out his feet of dung is to them rather like pointing out Adolf Hitler's Jewish ancestry to committed Nazis back in the '30s.

They really, really don't want to hear it. Big investment they've got in their Fraudulence-in-Chief. Haul him away in chains to some nice, restful place in the federal prison system – as he deserves – and they're gonna scream and rage and fling poop like any other mob of lesser primates.

Forget “spoiled brats” in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. The movie you need to appreciate to understand the Obamaphiles is The Triumph of the Will.

Were those “Code Pink pests” are as loud or obnoxious as the “Tea party' supporters?

So when the other side starts pulling plays out of ACORN's book (Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky, 1971), the Obamaphiles whine “That's not fair!“, eh?

Now, I know that “fair play” is as alien to the “Liberal” mindset as honesty or decency or self-respect, but there's that “turnabout” expression you ought to look up, oughtn't you?

Oh, yeah. Much. Also, unlike the “Tea Party” types, the “Code Pink” critters had whatcha might call a poor sense of hygiene.

Woulda been nice if the “Code Pink” people had been protesting Dubbya's actions on constitutional grounds, of which there were God's own plenty.

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Were those “Code Pink pests” are as loud or obnoxious as the “Tea party' supporters?

Yes. By all busted Concord engine measures, brother.

[...] Republicans pushed back against Democratic attacks on the town hell hecklers by calling them “middle class Americans” who weren’t part of the [...]

Got to remember: the Brooks Brothers riot is what too many Republicans think of as democracy.
And, if you all are so concerned about deficits, where the hell have you been for the last eight years?

Wow, please more comments comparing Obama to Hitler. Fantastic! I love you guys. Moar Birtherness too! Ok, you and Snorgy can get back to your Code Pink fantasies.

I think you were addressing that reply to LaLee, but I'm good with it.

Er, a “busted Concord engine” (the twin spool Rolls-Royce/Snecma Olympus 593, a version of the Olympus originally developed for the Vulcan bomber, developed into an afterburning supersonic engine for the BAC TSR-2 strike bomber and then adapted for Concorde) doesn't run at all, Snerg.

The “Code Pink pests” therefore are much louder than any “busted Concord engine.”

Well, there's no exact comparison to be drawn between Obamaphiles and the members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. The Nazis had obviously better fashion sense, for one thing, and when they marched, they could all keep in step. Obamaphiles? Not quite so impressive a bunch of fascists….

Holy Mother Mackeral, brother!

DoublePlus bonus points for you, and yarr, double ye olde rum rations, at that, will ye, Mr. Boatswain!!

Arrh.

Your insight into the mechanical shimmies that can afflict these powerhouses is far beyond that or mortal mice and men.

Good show, even if I was sorta thinking about a high-pitched wail at about, say, 120+ dB coming from an intake that got stuck with bird matter or a loose ratchet.

But your take on things will be fine.

The easy duty on the ship's deck for you from now on!

Yes–that was for the viewing pleasure of La-de-dah-Lee

Oh, no Boatswain would have my feathermerchant ass in his deck division, I assure you. Real sailormen have a strong sense of professional pride. In the sick bay, Boats was fine with me. When I came out on the deck, he wanted to have somebody following me around with a coil of lifeline just to make sure I didn't trigger an unplanned “man overboard” drill.

*lol*

Well, sailor, just so long as our set-up here is not the old Brit Navy legacy of “Sodomy, Rum, and the Lash.”

I figure we get pleny of that from our “betters” in government–the local Admirals with a Walter Mitty mind on deck.

Nah. Nowadays, it's “wall-to-wall counseling,” coffee, and “don't ask, don't tell.”

Paint's pretty much the same color, though.

It's not just a job. It's not much of an adventure, either. But – unlike the Army – you're always guaranteed access to a head, a sit-down mess, and an ocean view.

Aye. That it is.

But is it really like that show JAG, where the “rules of dating” on ships (now that the laws of physics–buoyancy–confirm the liberall PC wisdom that the modern Navy can handle tons of equipment in addition to pregnant females on board) have things like:

“Green light“

(Your mutually agreeable offer, going by the rules as outlined by the proper authorities, for a hypothetically-oriented relationship is legal, helpful, mutual, wholesome, and you made no sudden moves; an offer to male shipmate to meet in the closet room and the sex is purely consensual fun)

Yellow Light:

(maybe–but don't move too fast or you get turned in for sexual harassment)

“RED LIGHT”, BUDDY!

(Don't even look at me, you pig, and if you ask me to sit with you and eat I'll turn you in to the properly ordained authorities, as described in Code Section *-9, parts A-H!!!! HELP!!!!)

Can you cite where liberals did this (at least in the last two decades)?

I've been challenging wingnuts who throw out the ever-present “liberals did it too” excuse, but so far haven't had a serious reply.

Yeah, there was the odd lib who got thrown out of a GOP event. And there were libs who demonstrated outside events. There were even libs who got into GOP events, only to be arrested for wearing pro-Dem T-shirts or for having “Kerry for President” bumperstickers.

Earlier I heard some MSM “all are the same” dummy claiming Dems did the same thing over Social Security reform back in 2005…except when challenged he had to admit the Dems politely asked questions, and actually allowed GOPers to answer the questions…unlike the corporate-sponsored teabagger brigade, who literally feel shutting down all conversation is the acceptable goal.

So…same challenge to you…where and when did Dems do this?

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I'm talking about Alinsky's Rules for Radicals – tactics which have been employed by socialists (“Liberals,” progressives, fascists, Tranzis, “community organizers,” pick any six, they're all the same buncha weasels) since the '60s – and you're bouncing back merely to Social Security reform dickerings in 2005?

Aw, c'mon, nehi. You can't do any better than that?

Alinsky’s training manual for radical activists, Rules for Radicals, states that community organizers (called “poverty pimps” by some critics) are primarily agitators, who must “Fan the resentments of the people of a community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression—he must search out controversy and issues… An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontentment [sic]… He knows that values are relative… Truth to him is relative and changing.”

Alinsky’s work also influenced the creation of the “Cloward-Piven Strategy,” named after Columbia University professors Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. Their strategy involves taking action to force deliberate failure in society to foster change toward socialism, by overloading the bureaucracy with impossible demands and lawsuits, holding officials to the extreme letter of the law, etc. The Cloward-Piven method is intended to push society into economic collapse, forcing a fear and resentment of capitalism and making it easier to usher in socialism. The Cloward-Piven strategy is one of the tactics frequently used by community activists and organizers (e.g., storming welfare offices and violently demanding immediate action) to impose intentional strains on the system, and to force the hiring of more government workers than necessary to deal with their ever-increasing demands. Obama may have met and been personally influenced by Cloward and Piven while he attended Columbia.

(( source: http://www.colony14.net/id41.html ))

My opinion – and its just my own opinion, not pushed to me from any constitutionalist equivalent of Messiah Central in the daily email messages you “left-wing bloggers” get – is that if Alinsky's Rules for Radicals are going to be worked by the socialists (“Liberals,” assholes, collectivists, communists, etc.), then it's perfectly fine to work those same rules against “Liberals” (progressives, socialists, “poverty pimps,” fascists-in-Birkenstocks, etc.)

I'm currently liking Rule #12:

“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

Okay. Ahem!

So what is that lying lawyer sonofabitch HIDING, anyway?

You got that, nehi?

Well, it's getting out in the drive-by media now.

From David Hahn, “Publisher StatePaper.com ” August 5, 2009.

Publisher: Obama Should Produce Original Birth Certificate

At StatePaper.com, we know by making this statement we will be instantly tagged as “racist,” “birther,” or other pejorative terms by those who defend the President of the United States. We often defend the President and the job he is doing and are regularly lambasted for being “too liberal” or an “Obama lover” by some of our most prolific critics.

The fact in question here is the constitutional qualification of the President of the United States to hold office. With a simple nod, the President could offer the American people the best evidence, the source document(s), as he learned about at Harvard, and dispel those who question his birth as a natural born citizen. His failure to provide this best evidence, when it could be so easily done, raises only more questions, which fuels an ugly public debate.

I guess there are some things that not even a journalism school graduate can stomach.

Tuci, you loveable little Paulbot moron, an opinion column in a web-only college newspaper is the best you can come up with?

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