Surprise: Orly Taitz Still Lying About the Forged ‘Kenyan Birth Certificate’

Further proof that the so called ‘Birthers’ are really bigots-hiding behind lies- who can’t fathom having Obama or any black person be the President of the United States. Who are the sad excuses for Americans who continue to push these boldfaced lies on us? And shame on the people who read it as truth, knowing full well, they are clearly boldfaces distortions of truth questioning his legitimacy as President.
President Obama is our president, just like President Bush was our previous president. I didn’t agree with most of Bush’s policies, but I would never question his previous title. You seek to destroy our fragile democracy when you question Obama’s title.
In my opinion, Taitz should brought up on charges if she knowingly used forged documents to defame and undermine our Constitution. Although, it wouldn’t surprise me, the way many Republicans have been acting recently. I hope you can sleep at night. I can.

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…if Taitz knowingly submitted a forgery as part of her lawsuit, she exposed herself to charges of defamation against the president of the United States.

And the President is likely to sue her? Personally, I score that at zero, but maybe views differ.

She's a lunatic. Now, not only does she demand the “long form” original B.C., but she wants “the corresponding big thick hospital Birthing file from the Kapiolani hospital.”

and if they don't produce the file, they all need to resign or face charges of fraud and treason. LMAO!

As I mentioned on politijab.com, she's projecting again… the only one here involved in potentially treasonous activities would be one foreign-born Dr. Orly Taitz Esq with possible allegiances to other countries.

She's a lunatic. Now, not only does she demand the “long form” original B.C., but she wants “the corresponding big thick hospital Birthing file from the Kapiolani hospital.”

and if they don't produce the file, they all need to resign or face charges of fraud and treason. LMAO!

As I mentioned on polijab.com, she's projecting again… the only one here involved in potentially treasonous activities would be one foreign-born Dr. Orly Taitz Esq with possible allegiances to other countries.

[...] David Weigel wrote an interesting post today onThe Washington Independent » Surprise: Orly Taitz Still Lying <b>…</b>Here’s a quick excerpt [...]

Filed in the FLORIDA court? What case? I know she filed it in the Keyes v. Obama case in the California District Court (Federal), but didn't know she'd filed it in any Florida case. Does Orly even have a case in Florida anymore?

Filed in the FLORIDA court? What case? I know she filed it in the Keyes v. Obama case in the California District Court (Federal), but didn't know she'd filed it in any Florida case. Does Orly even have a case in Florida anymore?

Filed in the FLORIDA court? What case? I know she filed it in the Keyes v. Obama case in the California District Court (Federal), but didn't know she'd filed it in any Florida case. Does Orly even have a case in Florida anymore?

I know it sounds nutty but I was just wondering why we can't just see one of these for Obama instead of this guy Alan.

http://www.gopmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/hawai...

Yeah, I know. Crazy.

I know it sounds nutty but I was just wondering why we can't just see one of these for Obama instead of this guy Alan.

http://www.gopmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/hawai...

Yeah, I know. Crazy.

I know it sounds nutty but I was just wondering why we can't just see one of these for Obama instead of this guy Alan.

http://www.gopmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/hawai...

Yeah, I know. Crazy.

It seems Orly did not file, and does not have, a physical copy of the “Kenyan” birth certificate. All she has is a “color copy” — which may well mean a photo of it — the same photo she posted on her web site. In any event, she clearly is ASKING for discovery to get the original. Thus, she is in NO POSITION to prove that her “color copy” is not a forgery.

From her court filing:

” The undersigned counsel for Plaintiffs has acquired possession of a color copy of one certain document (attached as Exhibit A to this motion), regarding which there are no ready means of authentication except by recovery of the original document. As should be apparent from the nature and content of the document, if authenticated, and shown to be genuine, the contents of this document will significantly narrow and shorten the discovery and pre-trial litigation period necessary in this case, and might lead to an early resolution by settlement or transfer of these proceedings to the United States House of Representatives and Senate according the procedures outlined in the Constitution.”

If by “Bomford report” she's referring to the Bomford.net website, Bomford.net domain was created in 2005, before Obama even declared for the Presidency.

http://www.whois.net/whois/bomford.net

with the site down I can't check the date of first posting of that birth certificate that was altered, but I would bet it's way before Orly Taitz got her hands on the forgery based on it.

Weigel (and the anti-birfers at politijab), you're doing great work.

If by “Bomford report” she's referring to the Bomford.net website, Bomford.net domain was created in 2005, before Obama even declared for the Presidency.

http://www.whois.net/whois/bomford.net

with the site down I can't check the date of first posting of that birth certificate that was altered, but I would bet it's way before Orly Taitz got her hands on the forgery based on it.

Weigel (and the anti-birfers at politijab), you're doing great work.

Well, I think she'd also have violated some Rules of Evidence, which could lead to sanctions. Then she could join that Berg fellow in the Birther Lawyer Hall of Shame.

What's crazy is that you still have the nerve to show up and post here, randypuppy.

We've all seen Obama's COLB. If you'd like to doctor it in hilarious ways, and you think you can do better than changing one letter of an Australian registrar's name (G.F. Lavender) and thus creating a “Kenyan” registrar that is actually the name of a popular detergent (E.F. Lavender), then go ahead. Knock yourself out.

Of course, we both know you're far too preoccupied with being buggered by monkeys to ever sit down and try your shaky hand at document forgery, randypuppy.

Why haven't you written me at the address I provided for you? Did you forget? You were going to write and let me know about your plan to wet youself when I show up in Colorado Springs to videotape you running from me like the GOP representatives run from the FireDogLake blogger who asks them about the birther conspiracy theory.

Here's the address again:

randwulfisamonkey@gmail.com

Don't forget to write, randypuppy!

The Florida action is, I believe, the suit “Major” Cook is filing against Simtech, Inc. and the Dept of Defense. Orly, of course, represents “Major” Cook.

I read on other another site that the Bomford BC was posted about 2 years ago. But I have no way to check.

Folks are in communication with authorities on this issue.

The California State Bar Association, as well as the Federal court itself, is likely to take action against Taitz if it is ever demonstrated that she KNOWINGLY filed a false document in support of a legal proceeding.

As an attorney, she is “an officer of the court” and as noted by another commenter, the Federal Rules of Evidence and Rules of Civil Procedure, as well as the State Bar's governing rules, obviously prohibit such grotesque practices as filing a document you know to be false.

What Taitz will have to argue is that she had a good-faith belief in the document's authenticity. That will be hard to show, given how easily the forgery was demonstrated; given that she put ZERO effort into authenticating a “color copy” meaning a printout of an online document; and given that she filed her motion late at night on Saturday (electronically, as she did her law schooling, so at least she's consistent) when the Court would be unable to review the matter, but immediately thereafter posted the whole motion AND the exhibit (fake birf sirtifikat) onto her personal website.

It's obvious she just wanted to get the fake out there. There's ZERO chance that her motion will be granted or that an unauthenticated forgery will be admissible as evidence. Nor is it “likely to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence,” which is a threshold question before allowing “fishing expeditions.”

All you need to know is that this woman said she wants to take Hillary Clinton's deposition to authenticate this Kenyan birf sirtifikat. What madness.

I love it that the birthers are relying on a foreign wacko from behind the Iron Curtain (who got hit on the head by a brick chiseled from the falling Berlin Wall) to represent the “patriots” who want to demonstrate that the President is not really American.

Poetic justice. The birthers are reaping what they have sewn.

Apparently Orly's site was attacked and sabotaged. If you try to go to it now you will be stopped with advisory notes from Google telling you that it will harm your computer if you proceed. It just happened yesterday, after the posting of what she claimed is the image of a Kenyan Birth Certificate for Obama. It seems that the original image posted by Orly was taken out by hackers and another image put in it's place which is of an OBVIOUS forgery. Below is the message you will see if you attempt to access the site. So someone is muddying the water with this image of a blatant forgery. I wonder if we will be able to get a look at the original image that she tried to post. By the time I looked, it was too late. So if you can't refute facts, just use sabotage. Makes you wonder what someone is so afraid of.

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Holy cow. I just went to Orly Taitz's website by clicking the link in this article. I read her poorly-written fussy protest about the fake birth certificate. She contends, falsely of course, that the Australian birth certificate was created and forged, so that HER Kenyan document would be made to look false.

Sheesh.

I left her a comment. Bet you my birth certificate she won't post it. Here's what I wrote:

“Wow.

I often wondered how Obama planned to get re-elected, since it seemed that half of America drained its bank account to get him elected in 2008 and the other half of America drained its bank account to feed and clothe Sarah Palin.

After seeing you on the news and reading about you on the internet, Dr. Taitz, my fears have been assuaged.

You are accomplishing, for free, what Obama spent 300 million dollars to do. No one who listens to you for five seconds, or reads ANYTHING you struggle to put into English, is fooled for one moment.

You and credibility are like George W. Bush and scholarship.

Please please please keep up the good work. Democrats want to save money on campaign contributions and instead use those funds to make the party we had in Grant Park in 2008 look like a backyard carnival compared to the one we will have in 2012.”

Hmmm. I just went to Orly's website. No problem except that the place is crawling with bullshit written by Orly.

Nice try, randypuppy!

She is only a distraction form the real issue. . .obama and natural born citizenship.!

It's no surprise that Hillary Clinton is in Kenya today to reinforce the cover-up.

I don't trust ANY politician and almost no one in the media. I still want answers. Obummer, put up or get out!!!! All he has to do is make the following official public statement,

“I Barack Obama authorize the State of Hawaii to release and make public all of my records on file.”

That's it. Issue over. But he won't because he's a fraud!! Obama knows that millions of citizens want to see it yet he continues to hide it. What/why is he hiding? and most disturbingly, why don't BHO's supporters want to know the whole truth, especially since there's a reward of $100,000 for proof that Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States.

OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND YOUR OTHER RECORDS!!!!!

She is only a distraction form the real issue. . .obama and natural born citizenship.!

It's no surprise that Hillary Clinton is in Kenya today to reinforce the cover-up.

I don't trust ANY politician and almost no one in the media. I still want answers. Obummer, put up or get out!!!! All he has to do is make the following official public statement,

“I Barack Obama authorize the State of Hawaii to release and make public all of my records on file.”

That's it. Issue over. But he won't because he's a fraud!! Obama knows that millions of citizens want to see it yet he continues to hide it. What/why is he hiding? and most disturbingly, why don't BHO's supporters want to know the whole truth, especially since there's a reward of $100,000 for proof that Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States.

OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND YOUR OTHER RECORDS!!!!!

Nice job …

Nice job …

You know how I know that Orly (and randypuppy) is lying about the preposterous claim that someone “hacked” into her site and replaced her “genuine” Kenyan birf sirtifikat with the fake one?

She posted this sirtifikat only a few minutes after filing it with the California Federal Central District Court as an exhibit to her motion.

Unless someone changed THAT too, it would be the “genuine” one and we could compare it. In fact, if Orly was sincere, she would immediately refer us to the motion she filed, where we could see the “real” Kenyan birf sirtifikat.

But she's not sincere. And she's really fucking stupid. Because she didn't think we'd notice this easy way to tell that she's lying.

I don't blame randypuppy for not noticing. He only notices when monkeys fling shit at him in the zoo. It turns him on.

I'm not the first to suggest this, but it seems more and more likely: Orly is Sasha Baron Cohen's new character.

That's just it, her “facts” have been proved false. Maybe she hired someone to sabotage her site, so she could deflect criticism from herself.

Good to know.

Hey captain. Still running around avoiding questions and posting gibberish, I see. Good for you.

Hillary Clinton isn't going to Kenya to help Orly Taitz cover up her forged Kenyan birf sirtifikat! What an inventive mind you have!

http://www.saelections.co.za/articles/6638/why-…

You don't trust politicians or anyone in the media. No surprise, then, that you're still looking for answers. You keep disregarding the answers…because you're a fucking lunatic.

I don't believe what any scale says. How can I find out what I weigh? Guess I'll just keep waiting for a scale to tell me the right weight, which is the one in my head and I'm not saying what it is. That way I can say all scales work for the Kenyan Usurping Muslim Dragon.

You know If Orly (no wai!!) has submitted that document to the courts as evidence in a case, she could very well be disbarred and possibly charged with a crime for knowingly presenting falsified evidence in a court.

And Orly Taitz website has not been hacked, or at least the birth certificate part hasn't, because the picture is the same one that's on WorldNutDaily

Hallo Orly Taitz–most pentrated legal opinionator from glorious republik of Moldova! I am in premium agreement with your much troubles regarding fascist media organs. If state apparatchniks allow refuseniks not to show required (schwartzenwalder) papers then I worry much for proper order of societel structures.
Stiffest Regardings,
Nicolae Ceausescu Jr. Jr.

I clicked on Orly's site just now and this message came up.

Reported Attack Site!
This web site at http://www.orlytaitzesq.com has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences.
Attack sites try to install programs that steal private information, use your computer to attack others, or damage your system.
Some attack sites intentionally distribute harmful software, but many are compromised without the knowledge or permission of their owners.

Looks like it was deliberately attacked and hacked. Again, strange behavior for people claiming to have truth on their side. Or is it just “We don't have to say anything and that is even better than the truth.” In fact, they prefer to continue to say nothing because they might have to explain why Obama's long form can't be produced under any circumstances and their attack dogs will viciously maul anyone who tries to get them to produce it. Again, here is Alan's. Where is Barry's?

http://www.gopmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/1…

Yes, that is what it would look like if he had one. Only, I wonder what hospital it would list.

Yesterday, the original Bomford BC was viewable on their ancestry site. It looked to me like it was posted in 2007.

Actually, I think Taitz is so delusional that she may escape through the loophole that requires “knowingly” filing a false document. This is one of the few times where an attorney's gross incompetence may actually be a blessing.

I do take issue with calling Taitz a “foreign wacko,” however. She is obviously committed to protecting what she thinks the Constitution requires. If we start denigrating people as “foreigners” just because of their origins, we will have fallen into the same myopic mental trap as the Birthers.

The proper term for Taitz is a “domestic wacko.”

We have no proof that Orly is a US citizen. I wonder if they will let her back into the US when she tries to return to the US?!

Randwulf, can't you read? That's not a Birth Certificate, that's a Certificate of Live Birth.

Let's see if you can read Jon. Here is the item that Obama's camp keeps pointing to as his proof of being Hawaiian born.

http://markrileymedia.files.wordpress.com/2009/…

It clearly states at the top “CertifiCATION of Live Birth”.

Now, again, here is Alan's long form, hospital prepared, original with typewritten information.

http://www.gopmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/1…

Alright, it clearly states at the top “CertifiCATE of Live Birth”. Notice how much more information it contains. It has a space for the name of the hospital and the name of the attending physician, the address of the parents and town, place of birth of the parents etc. etc. It is a BIRTH CERTIFICATE in every sense and has all the information that most birth certificates have had for many, many years. Obama's thing is only supposed to be a statement by the Vital Statistics office in Hawaii that somewhere in their vaults is a birth record for this person AKA B.O. Obama. I think there is something wrong with it though. I suspect someone is lying and the Obama posted thing is probably a forgery. If it isn't, then only the production of the original by Obama from the Hawaiian records will confirm that (or not). So yes, in answer to your query, I can read. Now you go look at the images again and read what each of them says at the top.

Why don't you just post your phone number and I'll call you to let you know where I will be happy to kick the shit out of you. Bring you video equipment. I want to post this on Youtube.

Hawaii gives out the COLBs, not copies of the original “long form”. Kansas may not, but several states do it the same way as Hawaii. The Hawaiian COLB, as provided by Obama, is legally his birth certificate per Hawaii statute, and is accepted by any federal, state, or local governmental agency as proof of birth and citizenship. It's good for drivers licenses, passports, I9 employment eligibility verification, or even signing up for little league baseball.

That was mature.

Why doesn't Obama just release his birth certificate and end all doubt? Think about THAT!

Did you read his post?

The COLB, regardless of the semantics, is the birth certificate that the State of Hawaii gives you when you ask for a birth certificate. Is it the original “Certificate of Live Birth”? No, but as far as Hawaii goes, it is a legally sufficient birth certificate. The original Certificate of Live Birth is important for historical purposes, and for generating legal, valid COLBs, but its legal<.i> significance has been supplanted by the COLB.

The only reason that people would have “questions” about the COLB is not that Obama is hiding anything – because he doesn't produce the COLB – but that Hawaii is somehow fraudulently misstating facts on the original Certification of Live Birth. So, the problem that birthers have can't be with Obama, but rather because they suspect foul play on the part of officials of the State of Hawaii in representing facts within its possession.

He doesn't have one honey.

She did flee to Israel immediately after filing that last gem. Could it be she is linked to an AIPAC like defamation campaign designed to interfere with Obama's ability to force the Israelis from acting all Mein Kampfy with the Palestinians and the Lebanese? It wouldn't surprise me a bit. And it wouldn't be the first time the Republicans colluded with foreign powers illegally for domestic political gain (e.g. 1968 Paris Peace Talks sabotage, October Surprise, Iran-Contra, Al Qaeda/Mujaheddin, Iran-Iraq war).

Maybe you ought to ask yourself this question – Why is there any doubt? Is that doubt reasonable?

Hawaii has issued a legal, valid COLB. That document is valid in a court of law as stating the facts of his birth. The document not only states he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961, but that he was born on the Island of Oahu – at 7:24 pm to boot. His birth was registered four days after he was born. Several days after that, two local newspapers carried announcements of his birth.

You ask “Where is the Birth Certificate?” We know the answer to that question – in the custody of the State of Hawaii. I ask YOU in return, “Where is the reasonable doubt?”

I'm not into conspiracy theories. And even if I were, I wouldn't believe that Ms. Taitz is stable enough to participate in one. And even if her bizarre behavior was an act, I would have to question any so-called conspirators that made the judgment call that she is an appropriate public face of any movement seeking credibility.

Oh, come on now. You know they won't let you out of the mental hospital for that.

Look everyone, now he’s claiming to be the victim of discrimination, and is comparing himself to black people!

Have you joined the NAABP yet?

(National Association for the Advancement of the Birther-People).

Orly Taitz is doing the Democrats a huge favor and I would like to offer her my sincere gratitude. Her fringe lunacy is not only weirdly entertaining, it has been humiliating and embarrassing numerous high profile conservatives who are making hilariously desperate attempts to distance themselves from her and her absurd claims. The people who side with her are small in number and in mind and are not interested in actual information. All attempts at dialog and education are in vain. However, they are unwittingly contributing to the further breakdown of the already weakened Republican party for which they are appreciated.

They are BOTH COLBs. Only one is original and in the files and the other was spit out by some computer. One has the doctor and hospital mentioned on it and the other doesn't. If the original is in the files, then a photocopy can be made of it and released or better yet, the state of Hawaii can take it to Washington and put it on display in the Capitol rotunda for public viewing under a guarded safety glass case. Oh, and I think the Hawaiians are lying to cover for Obama. I think the Kenyans have purged their files. The whole paper trail has been erased and scrubbed as much as possible for about a year now. Soon, there will be nothing left to see even if Obama agreed to release anything. And the media just goes along with it all as if it were nothing and attacks anyone who says it IS SOMETHING.

Don't you mean, LET ME INTO ONE to do that?

But in what hospital John? Who was the doctor who delivered him? What was his name at birth? What matter's is what they put down on the form filled out then and there, not 46 years later and coming out of a computer printer. If he is telling the truth, lets see it. Why not? Okubo said the original is there in the vault. Go get it and show it to the world. What is he afraid of? He will always be hounded by this refusal to show his documents. That will be his legacy. The fraud president. They illegal alien that ruled. I say there is plenty of doubt and there is getting to be more of it every day. The more he resists showing documents, the more people think he is a liar and is hiding things from them. Simple really. What are saved original public records supposedly saved for anyway? Oh, that's right! To answer questions just like this! Right? If not, what are they saved for?

Why is the hospital relevant? Again, we have the COLB, a legal document. Given that *proof* of his citizenship, what right do you have to ask an American to let you rummage through his personal life? Do you want his credit card number too?

Better yet, where in the Constitution are you given that right?

Absolutely a plausible answer, assuming he got his Passport using Jedi Mind Tricks.

Hospitals and doctors are relevant because they sign off on the fact that they basically witnessed the birth and the doctor literally signs the original paper copy certifying the birth, hence the name Certificate of Live Birth. I have the right under the constitution to ask for proof that the president is qualified to serve by asking him to provide documentation to show that he can meet the requirements of citizenship set forth in that document as those required for his office. It's all there. If you don't want to play by the rules of the game, then get out of the game. He knew the requirements to be POTUS and he knew that he would someday be asked to show that he meets them. That day is upon him. If an original document showing he is US born exists, he needs to cough it up.

I found this very interesting but of course merely speculative…

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/eades/2009/08/why-is-orly-taitz-in-israel-tw.php?ref=reccafe

He already did.

Those records were hacked into back in March of 2008. If they can be hacked into, they can be altered or in this case scrubbed of any information that would show ineligibility of Obama to hold the office of POTUS (like a Kenyan birth later registered in Hawaii or that he had once held Indonesian citizenship and traveled under their passport). Here is the article link I just looked at but there are many of them to choose from. Interestingly, as I recall, the FBI was investigating one of the three hackers who were all contract workers in the passport offices I believe. He was found sitting up, dead, with a gunshot wound to his head shortly thereafter. I don't think it was ruled a suicide. I wonder what he knew about Obama's passport information. You don't have to be “naturalborn” to get a passport. I wonder if there was a backup file somewhere. Does the government back up their files? Here is the link to the article below. I'll investigate the investigation. More later. Wow, I didn't even insult anyone!

Ihttp://www.digitalalchemy.tv/2008/03/obama-passport-file-breached.html

Barack Obama's confidential passport file was accessed without authorization at least three times in the past several months. Three contract workers for the U.S. State Department were responsible, viewing his file on January 9, February 21, and March 14. Two have been fired, but one is still staying on the job.

The apparent reason: “imprudent curiosity” on the part of the three individuals, according to the State Department.

What kind of information can be accessed? “Passport application data includes such details as date and place of birth, e-mail address, mailing address, Social Security number, former names and travel plans.”

Any employee can access this data. All they need to do is agree to abide by the Privacy Act to access passport records, but after clicking “Yes”, the computer system lets them access any record they like without any controls.

Because Obama is a prominent individual, his record has a “flag” set to warn of unauthorized access. A State Department spokesman says:

“In each of these three cases the system that was set up to detect any authorized access of these kinds of records worked. These unauthorized accesses were detected by the State department and immediately acted on,” said McCormack.

Undersecretary Pat Kennedy said some records have “what computer people call flags — we put flags on certain records that trigger a report to a supervisor that the record has been accessed,” he said.

An Obama spokesman, reacting to the news of the breach, replies:

“This is an outrageous breach of security and privacy, even from an administration that has shown little regard for either over the last eight years,” said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton. “Our government's duty is to protect the private information of the American people, not use it for political purposes.”

“We demand to know who looked at Senator Obama's passport file, for what purpose and why it took so long for them to reveal this security breach,” the Obama spokesman added.

An incident like this has happened before:

In 1992, a similar breach took place when State Department officials looked up data on then-presidential candidate Bill Clinton, amid rumors that had tried to renounce his citizenship in order to dodge the draft while he was a Rhodes scholar at Oxford during the Vietnam War.

Hospitals and doctors are relevant because they sign off on the fact that they basically witnessed the birth and the doctor literally signs the original paper copy certifying the birth, hence the name Certificate of Live Birth.

Don't worry, Hawaii has the records.

I have the right under the constitution to ask for proof that the president is qualified to serve by asking him to provide documentation to show that he can meet the requirements of citizenship set forth in that document as those required for his office.

You have the right to ask for whatever you want. Doesn't mean anyone has to give it to you.

It's all there. If you don't want to play by the rules of the game, then get out of the game. He knew the requirements to be POTUS and he knew that he would someday be asked to show that he meets them. That day is upon him. If an original document showing he is US born exists, he needs to cough it up.

He already satisfied all the requirements. You want proof? He lives in the White House.

Those records were hacked into back in March of 2008

Look, behind you! Black helicopters!

“I have the right under the constitution to ask for proof that the president is qualified to serve by asking him to provide documentation to show that he can meet the requirements of citizenship set forth in that document as those required for his office”

What Constitution are you reading? Certainly not the American one. Where in the Constitution does it say you granted that right?

This is a nation of laws. You can't just *make up* law, especially Constitutional law, because you don't like the president. If you can legally bring suit to subpoena the documents then do so. If you can not legally gain access to the documents then – wait for it – you have NO RIGHT to see them.

You don't want to follow the law. You want to ignore it.

lol

What *could* have happened is utterly irrelevant. It's irrelevant if the passport files were hacked AFTER he had a Passport.

Don't bother with the “natural born” bit. While the SCOTUS has ruled on *sufficient* conditions for “natural born”, they have never ruled on *necessary* conditions.

Yes, that's right, you don't get to define “natural born” off the top of your head.

Like Stephen Colbert said, one was a certificate of a birth, and the other is what the give you when you are born.

Nahh, I'm sure the guy who did Bruno and Borat has more standards.

Here's the scoop. Orly reported her own site hacked. It's the third time she did this since Dec. 2008! Google “Lisa Ostello”. Also she has fraudulently doctored emails in a case against her, Google “Lisa Liberi” on Scribd. I think Taitz knew it was a forgery and was complicit in it's fabrication given the information about her dealings with the two people mentioned above.

This happened in March of 2008, before he was president. So it isn't irrelevant at all. I don't need to define “naturalborn”. There is enough of that already being done and it only really matters when it is being done by a federal judge or the SCOTUS when they get the balls to really look at this issue. That admittedly may be never.

The constitution defines the requirements for any person holding the office of POTUS. So that is the law. Nation of laws enforce the law. The burden of proof rests with the person claiming to be qualified. No authority challenged him or required him to adequately prove he was qualified. Not congress, not the senate, not the supreme court. Everyone failed to insure that the man in the White House had the qualifications to do so. Period. So back to square one. The proof needs to be shown by Obama himself in order to end this debate which has now spilled out of its WWW world and into the MSM world and is becoming widely known by people everywhere. His choice. He could end this quickly or let it drag out. As an American citizen, I have EVERY RIGHT to know EVERYTHING about what my government is up to. That includes every elected official in the federal government. They are making laws that effect me. I have a right to know who they are. If you don't believe that, you are wrong.

Not for long.

Watch out for mousetraps.

I'm going to start cutting and pasting all your comments but change one thing. I would substitute the word “birther” with the infamous “N-word” so you can all see how prejudiced you are.

“The only thing funnier than a nigger is a MAD nigger.”

How's that funny boy. Do you like that?

You're right, the Constitution mandates he leave by no later than January 20th, 2017.

They're all out to get you, Fox. TRUSTNO1

Resign Usurper! Usurper Resign!

The constitution does define the requirements. The authorities *legally authorized* to vet presidential candidates have decided that Obama was eligible. Burden of proof met, to those that mattered.

“No authority challenged him or required him to adequately prove he was qualified. Not congress, not the senate, not the supreme court. Everyone failed to insure that the man in the White House had the qualifications to do so. Period.”

A statement without any proof whatsoever. Unless you work for the vetting authorities you have absolutely no idea what procedures they followed. Nor, more importantly, do you have the legal right to the information they may or may not have uncovered, as it is not in the public domain.

“As an American citizen, I have EVERY RIGHT to know EVERYTHING about what my government is up to”

Wrong AGAIN, unless you have never heard of a Top Secret document. And again, you make up rights that have no basis in the law or in the Constitution. How can you claim you give a hoot about the Constitution when you spout things that have no basis in it?

Let me stress that – you are making up law, or more to the point you are acting like your citizenship places you ABOVE the law. That's insulting to anyone who actually DOES respect the Constitution.

Show the Constitutional passage that allows these rights you claim, or admit the Constitution is just a ploy you use to pursue your partisan agenda.

That's right – it only matters when a federal judge defines it. Your musings on the matter are inconsequential at best.

At least we agree on that.

No, what I like is seeing you wet yourself all over again, doofus.

Hey, randypuppy, whatever happened to that bullshit you wrote about how you’re not racist? (I DID, after all, post a dozen or so of your choicest racist insults levied at non-birthers for the crime of disagreeing with your DUMBFUCK BIRTHER PRETZEL LOGIC….)

Must have been as sincere as your whiny-ass protests about how none of my insults could ever affect you in the slightest.

If you think “birther” is the same as “nigger” then your self-esteem is even lower than I thought. That explains why you allow yourself to be rectally probed by monkeys.

Temper, temper, dumb fuck birthernigger!

Rand's not a big fan of the Constitution, or the law. He's AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, so just give him whatever he wants.

“Oh, and I think the Hawaiians are lying to cover for Obama. I think the Kenyans have purged their files.”

And I think you are the product of a remorseful monkey and a very happy codfish.

Let’s see your birth certificate. Not your certification of live birth. I will display it in the Capitol rotunda for public viewing.

After all, we’re very very proud of you, randypuppy! None of the previous monkeyfish survived long enough to post dumbfuck birther comments.

Like this one:

“or better yet, the state of Hawaii can take it to Washington and put it on display in the Capitol rotunda for public viewing under a guarded safety glass case”

What the fuck? Look, randypuppy, I know you are a racist prick who slings monkey-oriented insults at people. But the President is not a monkey, nor is he a curiosity to be on display for public inspection by those who just cannot accept that he could be for really and truly an honest-to-goodness American.

He does not have to jump when you tell him to. He does not have to show you his papers.

You cannot imagine how grotesque normal people would feel at the notion that the President’s birth certificate should be on guarded display in Washington, not to honor him as a measure of prideful reverence, like Washington, Lincoln, or Jefferson…

but to show the UNCONVINCED racist jerks out there that, “gosh darnit, I wouldn’t have believed it if I hadn’t seen for myself, but the nigger was really born here!”

You seriously posited the notion that the President’s ORIGINAL birth certificate (you couldn’t bring yourself to settle for a mere copy) should be forcibly taken from Hawai’i and put on guarded public display under protective safety glass.

That can only mean you imagine a horde of unconvinced citizens coming up to get their grubby hands on it to see for themselves. You think there need to be guards there.

What’s the difference between making a traveling slave show you his papers and forcing the President to keep his birth certificate on permanent display? This is not a mocking question, I really want an answer from someone. That’s what it really looks like to me.

See, Randwulf, THIS kind of bullshit, along with your putrid racist insults, is what I mock you for.

I know you’re stupid. I know you cannot write competently. Neither of those things would matter to me in the slightest if you didn’t couple your stupidity and functional illiteracy to the Racist Conspiracy Theory train.

But you did.

I’m an American, and you’re trashing America. You’re also trashing our most prominent American. You’re doing this without a shred of evidence. Just speculation and naked racism.

So you should stop whining about name-calling. You bring that on yourself, and you started the name-calling before I ever even posted here.

You can only imagine how much I’m enjoying watching randypuppy wet himself in his futile rage. Can you believe he claims to be 54 years old and a Marine military officer?

He’d hitch up his petticoats and run like hell if he ever even saw a black man walking down the street toward him. Yet now he’s throwing out the word “nigger” as though it is the same as “birther.”

God this is fun. Almost makes up for having to straighten out the same stupid birther dumbfuck lies, day after day.

“Bring you video equipment”

Bring you petticoats so you have something to hitch up as you’re running away and squealing, you birther dumbfuck.

And bring you dictionary, too.

Red, please.

No matter how angry you are please don't become like Von Brunn who opened fire at Holocaust museum.

Rand, you may believe that Obama isn't American natural born citizen or whatever else you may want to believe about him.

It is your right as an American but please, please, PLEASE no matter how angry you are please don't be like Von Brunn who opened fire at Holocaust Museum.

And if you know other in the “Birth Certificate Conspiracy” theorists who might have such inclination please report him/her to proper authorities so tragedy can be prevented.

as I reported in my story yesterday, if Taitz knowingly submitted a forgery as part of her lawsuit, she exposed herself to charges of defamation against the president of the United States.
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Knowingly submitting forged evidence to a court: when you absolutely, positively want to lose your law license, with no chance of ever getting it back under any circumstances.

No, randypuppy. He didn’t read my post, which is much larger than and directly above yours.

He skipped it without a glance and scrolled down lustily, thinking to himself…”What does RandWulf have to say upon the matter?”

And his eyes lit up when he saw what he’d hardly dared to dream. A comment from RandWulf, The Trusted Source for Credible Information at TWI.

That, or he figures that whatever immaturity is in my post, you had coming to you.

Aw, c’mon. Even you can do better than that, pupster.

Can’t you?

JohnC,

You object to my use of “foreign wacko.” Consider this my request for reconsideration.

Understood in proper context, I maintain that the slur should stand.

It is beyond ironic that someone who is of foreign birth should:

1 – take advantage of the citizenship laws to become naturalized, then

2 – take advantage of lax requirements to get a law “degree” from an unaccredited online university and then

3 – turn around and misuse the legal process (and in said process demonstrate beyond doubt that she learned nothing from her one-hour Online Lawyerly Training class) as a means of

4 – insulting and embarrassing a home-grown President who taught law before ascending the ladder.

This is not irony. It is irony within irony watching someone eating an irony sandwich.

I think there are also non-cerebral, more gut-level arguments to be made about love of country, patriotism, and respect for the flag. I find it deeply offensive when people trash the President without evidence, no matter who the President is. Notice I indicated without evidence.

I don’t think Orly Taitz loves America or gets choked up when we sing the Star Spangled Banner at baseball games or gets a rush from the whizz of a squadron of Blue Angels flying overhead before a football game. She wouldn’t insult us and slander our officials so blindly if she did.

It’s not because she’s a foreigner in the sense that she’s not from here. We’re American. None of us are from here. We’re all immigrants. But I mean she does not GET us. She doesn’t understand that America voted for this guy. We know he’s black. We understand. She does not speak for us. She is not one of us. She is a foreigner.

I say that without disrespect to those who are not American.

But if you’re going to trash America and slander Americans (including Hawai’ian officials and the people at factcheck.org and the Annenberg foundation), and call Obama a “Chicago crook” on national television, then you should have something besides a forged Kenyan birth certificate to back that nonsense up. Either way, you will be closely scrutinized, and any whiff of Otherness will stand out.

The fact that she is a recent immigrant, read in the light of her public actions over the past year, makes me believe she is not fully American in any significant sense.

So on those two major premises, I resubmit my argument.

I understand where you’re coming from. I don’t think she is committed to protecting the Constitution. I think she wants to make money from right wing fringe types. See, e.g., Palin, Sarah.

Fake BCs & COLBs do not change the actual location of Obama's birth or that he was a dual-citizen before he became Indonesian. His adoption and namechange were beyond the juvenile Soetoro's control. Stannie didn't want the kid home all day and he had to be Indonesian for the school system to babysit him. Giving birth in Kenya, at least two uncircumcised third-world sex-partners, no wonder Stannie died of ovarian cancer. If the Usurper resigns now his presidency, appointments, etc. might not get nullified. He should grant Bill Clinton a full pardon for his perjury conviction and all the other crimes he was accused of.

Agree with beginning and end.

I think her behavior IS an act, as I mentioned at the end of my last post to you.

In my opinion she is saying and doing all these things as a means of getting out in front and being known as the “leader” of the birthers. She will then use her fame and prominence (and her website) to extract money from birthers and curious would-be birthers. And a few comedians mining for gold.

She plainly doesn’t care about the legality of any of her claims. Reads the complaint into the record over the judge’s contrary orders, doesn’t understand the first thing about Supreme Court jurisdiction, files documents that are unauthenticated and thus inadmissible, et cetera.

Nor does she care about actually answering any question posed to her in an interview.

She instead follows a script. She talks over the interviewer, if necessary, to get the script all out. She attacks Obama in carefully-chosen words and then, in words just as carefully-chosen, she blames perceived media “brownshirts” and “Obots” for insulting her and calling her names instead of listening to her claims.

Birthers hear or read her words and have an easy train of thought to latch on to. They don’t need to sift messy evidence or figure out who’s telling the truth. She says something plausible to the mind of a disappointed racist who doesn’t want to accept Obama.

They aren’t looking for proof that confirms their belief so they can examine it carefully. They want to wave it in your face. But they refuse to discuss or examine the evidence that contradicts them, except to accuse it of being faked.

Anyway, I think her bizarre behavior is indeed an act.

Keep it up Birthers! this is too sweet. I would wait until you have peaked and then release the original. the longer and louder you maintain this the better for us, please please keep it up! This is too much fun to watch!

Poor Lou Dobbs, so sad. He saved me a ton of cash, and I seriously feel bad about his coming demise, but he chose his path. Still, such a shame.

I agree, Red. Don't go mcveigh on us. Just shut the hell up or go live in the woods.

You have a deeply flawed understanding of the Constitution. It was never the framers' intent to allow a single, lunatic individual grind our entire system of government to an immediate halt for cooking up some nutty reason why he thinks the duly elected president isn't legitimate, even though a national election, followed by a Congressional certification vote, followed by a swearing-in by the Supreme Court, have established that he is legitimate. If that were the case, we would have never survived the Revolutionary War against the British (at which time the Articles of Confederation were the governing docs) or the subsequent War of 1812.

There are several checks and balances in the system that would weed out a constitutionally ineligible presidential candidate. There is no reason on earth why Senator John McCain, the Republican National Committee and every single Republican Senator and Representative in Congress at the time of the presidential certification vote would ignore evidence that their political opponent was not eligible to be seated. Those are the individuals who have standing to challenge an elected president in court. Those individuals looked into the issue, and they unanimously rejected it without any hesitation.

Game. Set. Match. Say hello to President Barack Hussein Obama.

If Taitz knowingly submitted forgery, she is a Democratic plant. It would be interesting to see if anyone actually gets prosecuted for committing this fraud. If not, it would confirm that this was a disinformation exercise instigated and hatched at the highest levels of the Democratic party.

“He will always be hounded by this refusal to show his documents.”

LMAO. Democrats WISH we could be so lucky as to keep you birther losers around. You take away any credibility that Obama's POLICY critics have.

“Conservatives see that hazard.

The conservative talk show host Michael Medved recently referred to the movement's leaders as “crazy, nutburger, demagogue, money-hungry, exploitative, irresponsible, filthy conservative imposters” who are “the worst enemy of the conservative movement.”

“It makes us look weird. It makes us look crazy. It makes us look demented. It makes us look sick, troubled, and not suitable for civilized company,” he mourned.

One of the lead anti-Obama lawyers, Orly Taitz, a California dentist with a degree from an online law school, promptly threatened to sue Medved for defamation.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0209/19450…

“That will be his legacy. The fraud president. They illegal alien that ruled.”

Is Disney making a movie? I think they had some sort of Hockey Mom movie in the works until the election went the wrong way. No wait that was a 5 minute comedy clip on YouTube.

“I say there is plenty of doubt and there is getting to be more of it every day.”

Doubt about what? Birther reading comprehension skills? Birthers' ability to pick a leader who isn't Phil Berg or Orly Taitz?

You've got to be more specific, randypuppy! Your obsession with being touched intimately by monkeys is really clouding your ability to finish the thoughts you begin to express.

You never told us, for example, what fucking difference it makes who the doctor was. Nor did you say why you need to see the vault original. You birthers say the COLB is forged, so why wouldn't you say the original is forged too.

Original saved documents are saved because they are original. You don't pass them around to racist yahoo's who don't want to accept the results of an election. That is why ALL states use certified copies.

I don't expect you to retain any of this, randypuppy. You know, what with your monkey preoccupation.

I just don't want others to be confused.

“They are making laws that effect me.”

They are making grammar primers that affect you, but you don't seem to care about that, either.

Actually, if you spend a lot of time on these threads, you'll notice that randypuppy's a big fan of monkeys.

He took great delight in calling non-birthers “monkeyf@ckers” (I called him out for being too much of a wuss to use the word “monkeyfuckers”) and other such insults that revolve around monkeys and their feces.

I'm not convinced he's an American citizen. He hasn't posted his birth certificate here. Not even a measly fucking certification of live birth. Until I see one, and get competent forensic analysis performed on it, I will stick with my working theory.

randypuppy is the product of a remorseful monkey and a very happy codfish.

Oh randypuppy! If only the 4 Republicans on the SCOTUS (and the one who votes like a Republican) had “the balls to really look at this issue.”

Sadly, they do not. Neither does any Federal judge, despite having been appointed for life no matter what they do.

So, it is really just up to YOU, randypuppy! Don't worry. You can handle this.

Just tell the monkey you sleep next to that you're going to be burning the midnight oil.

Then, go to your computer. Turn on the webcam. Record yourself talking into the camera about how you said we're going to have another civil war (that was a good one, randypuppy!). Oh, you don't want to go off-the-cuff here. Write it all out beforehand.

Then upload the recorded video to YouTube. Get a liberal to help you understand how to do that.

Then, head to your local GOP representative's office and demand to be heard.

On the way home, pick up some bananas for your very pissed off and neglected monkey confidante.

Finally, shove one of the bananas right up your monkeyfucking ass. This is to remind you not to be so stupid and not to call people racist names like “monkeyfucker” ever again, birther dumbfuck.

“Yes, that is what it would look like if he had one.”

I bet you hear that a lot from women, eh, randypuppy?

Does this explain why you have resolved only to have intimate encounters with monkeys, who aren't so hung up on penis size?

Oh, for Pete’s sake! It’s the same photo as the other birther sites have. There’s no sabotage there. Why sabotage a fake birth certificate? Besides, you could always use the Internet’s way-back machine to recover the original forgery that Taitz believes isn’t a forgery.

Taitz’ WordPress blog has a suspicious bit of Javascript on it that has popped up elsewhere on the net. Her site has not been hacked, in the usual sense of the word. I will blogwhore now. There’s more details on my blog, http://www.wheatdogg.com.

Red, Obama can be adopted by the royal family of Wngland and he still WOULD NOT LOSE HIS US CITIZENSHIP.

You know why? Because MINORS CAN'T LOSE THEIR US CITIZENSHIP.

Actually Stephen, there are currently 6 justices on the court who were appointed by Republicans: Stevens, Souter, Thomas, Scalia, Alito and Roberts. Of course Souter is stepping down.

Sorry buddy but she obtained them from the kenya goverment her self.So much for your lyes .

You're right. I won't retain any of it. Because I didn't bother reading any of it. And if I did, I would quickly write it all off as the usual left wing ad hominum, personal insult, invective, smart-ass, illogical drivel that I'm used to seeing from your side. If you can't argue like a civilized human being, I have no time for you. I'm sure you made more references to monkeys etc. So have fun with that. It just goes to prove my point that your side relies on anything but the fact that your usurper hasn't released anything that will conclusively prove that he is not LYING about being US born.

You're right. I won't retain any of it. Because I didn't bother reading any of it. And if I did, I would quickly write it all off as the usual left wing ad hominum, personal insult, invective, smart-ass, illogical drivel that I'm used to seeing from your side. If you can't argue like a civilized human being, I have no time for you. I'm sure you made more references to monkeys etc. So have fun with that. It just goes to prove my point that your side relies on anything but the fact that your usurper hasn't released anything that will conclusively prove that he is not LYING about being US born.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploa…

It only takes four justices on the Supreme Court to decide whether to hear a case or not. In addition, despite being appointed by Republicans, I think the last thing that Stevens and Souter would qualify as would be Republican; they’ve been some of the most consistent liberal voices on the bench.

That would leave Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and Roberts. I think hose are the four Republicans that he was referring to.

Don't get any lye in your eye.

RedGraham, you are a liberal plant!
We all know that Obama was adopted by Swiss immigrants and raised in Peru by agents of the Vatican. If you don't see the truth of this, you have obviously already been duped by the liberal media.

Randwulf…
If he would show his original birth certificate, I bet that the birther movement would call it a forgery. Showing a piece of paper on TV will not convince you, or will it?
If it would, why isn't his legally valid, certified copy not enough?
That is the trouble with conspiracy theories. If one detail gets thoroughly debunked, it will just become proof of how deep the conspiracy runs.
“He showed his original certificate? Yeah, big deal. He had the CIA forge it.”
I wish the birthers would fess up and say what this is about: they hate the thought of a democratic black president and would rather see him fail than do something good for America.

Just more proof that birthers are too stupid to actually realize that for their theories to make any sense, they have no choice but to argue against themselves.

ALL CLEANED UP! NOW TO GET HAWAII TO SHUT UP AND MAKE SURE THE KENYANS GO ALONG!

Check this out. The guy in charge of Passport records security now sits on the White House staff. Wonder what he found and changed in Obama's passport records? I don't. Here is one article:

http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/07/24/security...

Another (and I like that word “cauterized”) stated this:

Obama’s Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach (“cauterized” O’s passport info)
Obama’s Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach
Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July.
The security breach, first reported by the Washington Times and later confirmed by State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp., which has earned millions of dollars providing intelligence-related consulting services to federal agencies and private companies.
During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation.
Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information.
“They looked at the McCain and Clinton files as well to create confusion,” one knowledgeable source told Newsmax. “But this was basically an attempt to cauterize the Obama file.”
At the time of the breach, Brennan was working as an unpaid adviser to the Obama campaign.
“This individual’s actions were taken without the knowledge or direction of anyone at The Analysis Corp. and are wholly inconsistent with our professional and ethical standards,” Brennan’s company said in a statement sent to reporters after the passport breach was made public.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com …

I wonder if they’ll let her back into that insane asylum she escaped from once the doctors realize that she got away? My guess is that they’re probably glad to be rid of her.

I'm sorry, but Taitz lost it when she played the nazi card in this interview. Here's a clip: http://www.governmentalityblog.com/my_weblog/20…

Yes, I agree. Any trustworthiness he may ever have had is undermined at this point. Not just on the birth issue but on every other aspect of his life. He absolutely refuses to release anything that would tell anyone who he really is and where he has really been and how he really got there. There has been plenty of time to scrub records and change information (passports records hacked by John O. Brennan, now on White House Staff, then employed by a company overseeing passport records). That was where the truly damaging information would have been for him. Then there are the Occidental College records that he refuses to release. Again, there may have been a birth record photocopy in those that would have damaged his birth standing. And finally, any president that would put forth the kind of bankrupting socialist nonsense that he stands for would meet with the same disapproval. The worst part, is that after it is all said and done, none of it has worked or is working. It will never work. It is all just cash down a rathole. I can pretty much guarantee you that if he was half-German instead of half -Kenyan, and a Republican instead of a Democrat and had a similar “nativeborn” issue, the left wing liberals would be the “birthers” and would be all over it, screaming about it like scalded dogs. Oh, and the Main-Stream-Pravda would have carried the story from the git-go.

Me thinks the Stephenmonkey doth protest too much. How's my grammar there baboonboy? You really are a funny little monkey!

Oh and I had a much higher security clearance than you ever had so I understand what “need-to-know” means. Yours may have cleared you for just enough to be instructed in the proper method of field stripping a banana. Now go eat a locust or something.

I didn't know the word “working” existed in the liberal vocabulary. A codfish? Really? You are even more sick and twisted than I thought. A remorseful monkey? Sounds like classic projection to me. Having a hard time dealing with your own family history there? What a shame.

Here is the actual face of a lie and a liar, lying for another liar. His whole job is to lie and if you watch him, you can see all the “tells” of a liar. Watch his mannerisms and expressions. Any seasoned police detective would immediately pick up on this any person who can reed energy coming off of other people can pick up on. It is so obvious. Wouldn't it just be easier to have come clean on this? Watch this. I'd love to put him on a polygraph. (Or waterboard.)

The clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhF2XOWN0ns

“They looked at the McCain and Clinton files as well to create confusion,” one knowledgeable source told Newsmax. “But this was basically an attempt to cauterize the Obama file.”

So this “knowledgeable source” knows all the details of the event, even down to the specific motives, BUT he's as in the dark as anyone as to Obama's true status?

Passport tampering…we're talking Federal crimes here. If this person has so much information on the perpetrators (as he claims) it's his legal obligation to come forward.

Seriously, why is it so hard to follow the law? If you see a crime, report it. If you want information, request it legally. Stop acting like a lawless mob.

Randwulf? What are you, an Objectivist White Power moron?

Nazis and Randians, two giant fails that go great together.

Here for your reading pleasure, the perfect example of how the liberal left wingers logically argue their point. That is, when they are not sanctioning the non-disclosure of public records or calling for the dismissal of people in the mass media who happen to disagree with them. Here, I give you HumanityCritic in all his glory (He sounds more like HumanityReject). He sent this one to me four times.

HumanityCritic wrote, in response to Randwulf:

“Pieces of shit, what does your mother have to do with this exactly? Bottom feeding, sperm guzzling, cousin fucking, knuckle draggers would co-sign anything birther – so being called a “pice of shit” by the likes of you is like getting dating advice from a rapist. As for looking forward to some sort of “civil war”, that's not really honest. The only violence in your life is the beating action you perform to your penis when you masturbate to Mein Kampf. You are a pussy, panty waste, nancy boy – and you know deep inside that Kool-Aid pumping heart of yours that you actually wet yourself when faced with real confrontation. As for Michelle, she didn't have to say anything racist – co-signing birthers in any fashion is giving a nod to racism. I don't particularly know about “wanting” racism, but you sure did give me a big dose of stupid this morning. Cheer douchebag. :)”

Boy, I'm certainly relieved that he didn't use any racial slurs.

Oh, perfect. Are you butt-fucking HumanityReject and Stephenmonkey?

The LIAR clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhF2XOWN0ns

“Passport tampering…we're talking Federal crimes here.”

That's right! I agree! The guy who did this is named John O. Brennan, who now sits on the White House staff as Assistant to the President on Homeland Security and Counter-terrorism. Think he might have shared whatever he found in Obama's file with Obama when applying for his current job? Maybe Hillary did the same. Her buddy, the attorney Alan Berg had people in Mombasa looking for a birth certificate for Obama last summer. It could be that one copy of it is locked up in Hillary's safe deposit box. I'm sure that any originals in Kenya are long gone at this point.

“If you see a crime, report it.”

Many of us HAVE been witnessing a crime and attempting to report it. Nothing is done. Not even the examination of a single little state birth record or any attempt whatsoever to find out what really happened with the passport records. It was all just quietly dropped. Well, after one key witness showed up dead, sitting in his car with a gunshot wound to the back of his head. It was a cleansing action for Obamas records and the other two candidates records were accessed as a diversion. Whatever was there in Obama's file was deleted and something else put in place of it. Gone. I suspect Hawaii will have an “accident” with their birth records in the near future.

Maybe Lou Dobbs and all the “birthers” could just be rounded up and sent to camps for the “Final Solution to the Birther Problem”. I think that is what the Southern Poverty Law Center is calling for. Nicht war? You liberals are sooooooo liberal these days. I know! Let's have “birthism” included in some new “Hate Law”. That's the ticket! Make it punishable by death to ever even mention a birth certificate or check to see if someone is an illegal alien.

If by the “Kenyan Government” you mean “some guy on eBay who realized that she was stupid enough to pay for an obviously fake document” then yes, she got them from the Kenyan Government. I was sure that she was the smart one, but now I can't decide who's dumber: her or her followers.

It'll be all the more entertaining to watch her get disbarred after trying to submit that glorified piece of toilet paper as evidence in court.

True, Neil, as to “appointed by.” But I don’t think Souter is a Republican. Neither do Republicans. :)

I appreciate the fact-check. Especially where it would underscore my original point! Too bad those 6 justices just don’t care enough about America, eh?

About Souter… so they say! But a former professor of mine was on President GHW Bush’s vetting team for Souter and he told us that Bush knew perfectly well that Souter was, at best, an X factor. An unknown. Far from a proven conservative. He still picked him. Hmm.

Kennedy ain’t that bad is he? :)

No, the shame is that a total dumbfuck like you has the gall to claim to be a former Marine.

If you had any courage at all, you’d stop hiding behind bullshit and just tell us the truth about yourself.

But you don’t. Which is another reason I have so much fun mocking you. I know that you’re worthless, stupid, and yet arrogant. This makes you a great source of entertainment. Lookit, the monkey can talk! He says his name’s Randy!

Interesting about Souter/Bush. I often wondered whether Bush had any previous inkling that Souter would flip.

Yes, Kennedy is that bad! He is the deciding vote for John Roberts. Actually, Kennedy came and lectured at my law school one day. I remember being frustrated and wanting to ask him why the hell he goes along with the Conservatives.

But then I went back to playing Solitaire on my laptop and before you knew it, Civ Pro was over. Time to head to Torts.

Yep, that’s what I was referring to. Good catch.

Makes sense, since you have such a great name! :)

Thanks for the link — I will check out your blog.

And thanks but no thanks for telling the birthers about the way-back machine. I was looking forward to letting them hang themselves with this “the forgery is a forgery of a real Kenyan birth certificate, if only we could go back and see what it used to say before the libtards got hold of it” canard.

Here, for your reading pleasure, some exemplary and profoundly mature writings by the esteemed monkeyfucker known to us all as randypuppy…

This appears on the “Birther Movement Dogs Republicans” thread, 2 weeks ago, from Randwulf. No word on whether he was being touched by a monkey as he wrote:

“Wow. Well, I may have to re-think my earlier assertion that I am (or was) a “good American”. After reading all of this drivel today, I am totally convinced that it's all a lost cause. What a bunch of TV inspired SMARTA$$ES. American is done. At least 52% doomed. The monkey majority is now running the zoo. What made the US a great nation is gone. What has always been it's main weakness now is a dominant force. You're all (or at least 52%) brain-washed main-stream-media zombies. All you can see is your stupid little Demican/Republicrat world. You are all (DEMS and REPUBS) controlled by forces you can't see and don't understand. Just a bunch of stupid Goyim. You really don't deserve a country any more. Go ahead. Self destruct. Whatever. There's no way to fix it. You're fat. You're stupid. You're ugly. You're misbegotten and badly bred. You have no morals. You have no courage. You have no work ethic. Your kids can't read. And if they could, they'd read garbage. They don't know math. They don't know science. They know no real history. They only know how to dress like “gangsta” and talk jive. They are filled with “political correctness” though. Great. Fine. The end.

Rome took a couple of centuries to go from a world super power to a decadent, powerless, mish-mash shithole. We (or you rather) will accomplish the same feat in a couple of decades. I secede. I don't want anything to do with you mongrel, perverts. Just keep printing up that funny money and throwing it around like idiots. More national debt will only hasten the decline. You all deserve the lying, crooked and evil government you have allowed to be created here. And now you can just sink into the $hit with it. If you listen very closely, you can hear the Gods, and the rest of the world laughing. Disgusting monkeys.”

After reading his post, Road Scholar posted the following:

“Well. After your 'monkeys' and 'goyim' rant, I retract my retraction.

You're an asshole.” –Road Scholar, 2 weeks ago.

Never at a loss for words, although occasionally at a loss of a badly-needed change of women's frilly underwear, Randwulf retorted as follows:

“Well I'm just all broken up about your “retraction”. And as far as being an “asshole”, you ain't seen nothing yet! I don't need your f@cking approval. I've EARNED my right to say what I think. I was a part of your sick system for years. I want nothing more than to see it all fall and burn now. It's like living in a ghetto. The best thing that could happen is for a bulldozer to just scrape it up and bury it in a landfill, detox the land and start over again with something useful. You all like to say that if we don't like Obama, it is just because he is Black. You never talk about the percentage of Black voters that voted for him being 95%. I'm pretty sure they voted for him in those numbers entirely BECAUSE he is Black and not so much for any other reason. Sounds pretty “racist” to me. The only reason no judge has yet ordered his records produced in one of these lawsuits is that none of them have wanted to be the one who initiates the race war that will surely ensue once that is done. I don't give a $hit! I say LET ER RIP! It will be more fun that fishing with dynamite!”

Just figured you could use a little context, since just below this post, randypuppy offered his “Dissertation on Birther Morality and other Oxymorons”

Part 2 of randypuppy's dissertation is about “Race, Racism, and Racists: Time To Fling Poo At the Zoo.”

I present here a little compilation of racist quotes I slapped together after reading some of randypuppy's lighter works… And his delightfully mature response follows… Note that he's offering to put steel up all of our asses. No word on whether he intends to clean his own feces off said steel first or not…
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“Birthers are racist.

For those who say birthers aren't racist, I present here a few quotes from Randwulf. They all appeared on one 109 post thread. I haven't bothered to look at any of his racist comments made in other threads, like the one with 2,869 comments. If you fuss about it someone will compile a master list including comments from others as well, and prove you that much MORE wrong.

Oh, and he also gives away birther philosophy. So this is a Birther Rosetta Stone. Every other word after this sentence is a direct quote of Randwulf, and the last quote is a nod to Florida Christian, so enjoy!

“I think he is an Indonesian wetback, an illegal alien in every sense of the word.” [posted twice on same thread, days apart]

“Monkeys are experts on where to find nuts. Aren't they ALFTURD?”

“Monkeyf@cker.”

“Yes like when you call me a “racist”. Turnabout is fair play MONKEYF@CK!”

“But, its all good. Laugh away. Eat bananas and fling pooh! The monkeys can never run the zoo for very long before more advanced primates must move back in, hose down all the $hit and restore order. Looking forward to that!!”

“Wack-a-doodle? Hmm is that some new kind of mongrel breed or something? Why don't you guys run one of them for office! Oh and this time, make sure he has all his records, so we don't have to go through all this again.”

“I don't remember mentioning race at all, so it is you “making it clear” that I must harbor “racist” sentiments.”

“Man have I got a list of who's been naughty and who's been nice. Got ammo?”

[Birther Philosophy revealed below!]

“Whatever they have, we want to see it. We won't stop until we have it. Argument over it is pointless. The original documents will tell all. And then we will go for all the rest of the documents that he refuses to release.”

[Florida Christian Alert!]

“This whole sick episode would have been laid to rest long ago if…”" -stephenperry, 1 week ago

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And, his witty retort to me:

“Thankyou!! That was all ME! I freely and proudly take credit for all of it. I stand by all of it. I am right in saying all of it. And the best is yet to come because I am getting some really good original source material to endorse my claims and statements. So have a banana and wait. I will not be long. Don't cross swords with me. You will all end up with steel up your asses. COPY THAT?” –randypuppy the monkeyfucker, 1 week ago

So, this is a bit of background between the two of us. It explains why I do my part to establish commonality with randypuppy by talking to him in words he understands.

Oh I couldn't resist showing you what randypuppy thinks President Obama should do: put his original long-form paper birth certificate on public display in the Capitol Rotunda, guarded and under protective safety glass.

Seriously! This is from yesterday, on this very thread:

“They are BOTH COLBs. Only one is original and in the files and the other was spit out by some computer. One has the doctor and hospital mentioned on it and the other doesn't. If the original is in the files, then a photocopy can be made of it and released or better yet, the state of Hawaii can take it to Washington and put it on display in the Capitol rotunda for public viewing under a guarded safety glass case. Oh, and I think the Hawaiians are lying to cover for Obama. I think the Kenyans have purged their files. The whole paper trail has been erased and scrubbed as much as possible for about a year now. Soon, there will be nothing left to see even if Obama agreed to release anything. And the media just goes along with it all as if it were nothing and attacks anyone who says it IS SOMETHING.” –randypuppy, 1 day ago
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“Oh, and I think the Hawaiians are lying to cover for Obama. I think the Kenyans have purged their files.”

And I think you are the product of a remorseful monkey and a very happy codfish.

Let's see your birth certificate. Not your certification of live birth. I will display it in the Capitol rotunda for public viewing.

After all, we're very very proud of you, randypuppy! None of the previous monkeyfish survived long enough to post dumbfuck birther comments.

Like this one:

“or better yet, the state of Hawaii can take it to Washington and put it on display in the Capitol rotunda for public viewing under a guarded safety glass case”

What the fuck? Look, randypuppy, I know you are a racist prick who slings monkey-oriented insults at people. But the President is not a monkey, nor is he a curiosity to be on display for public inspection by those who just cannot accept that he could be for really and truly an honest-to-goodness American.

He does not have to jump when you tell him to. He does not have to show you his papers.

You cannot imagine how grotesque normal people would feel at the notion that the President's birth certificate should be on guarded display in Washington, not to honor him as a measure of prideful reverence, like Washington, Lincoln, or Jefferson…

but to show the UNCONVINCED racist jerks out there that, “gosh darnit, I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen for myself, but the nigger was really born here!”

You seriously posited the notion that the President's ORIGINAL birth certificate (you couldn't bring yourself to settle for a mere copy) should be forcibly taken from Hawai'i and put on guarded public display under protective safety glass.

That can only mean you imagine a horde of unconvinced citizens coming up to get their grubby hands on it to see for themselves. You think there need to be guards there.

What's the difference between making a traveling slave show you his papers and forcing the President to keep his birth certificate on permanent display? This is not a mocking question, I really want an answer from someone. That's what it really looks like to me.

See, Randwulf, THIS kind of bullshit, along with your putrid racist insults, is what I mock you for.

I know you're stupid. I know you cannot write competently. Neither of those things would matter to me in the slightest if you didn't couple your stupidity and functional illiteracy to the Racist Conspiracy Theory train.

But you did.

I'm an American, and you're trashing America. You're also trashing our most prominent American. You're doing this without a shred of evidence. Just speculation and naked racism.

So you should stop whining about name-calling. You bring that on yourself, and you started the name-calling before I ever even posted here.”–stephenperry, 1 day ago

Calm down, randypuppy. You're the one talking about a coming civil war and threatening us not to “cross swords” with you or you'll “put steel up all [our] asses. COPY THAT?”

You shouldn't get so hysterical. It makes you wet yourself. And you don't have a change of petticoats with you, funboy!

Usurper – one who takes office without color of title

De Facto Office Holder – one who takes office by being duly elected for a position he/she is legally ineligible to occupy

President of the United States – some black guy named Barack Hussein Obama

Anything else, Red?

Oh that's where you're wrong, randypuppy. You're too wrapped up in writing that Erotic Primate Newsletter of yours to pay attention to what humans converse about.

My side has made many legal, logical and factual arguments. We have law, logic, and facts on our side. You just have racism and an unquenchable thirst for for monkey-oriented porn.

This is what makes you so much fun. You have zero credibility and less intellect. How are your Civil War II preparations coming along, randypuppy?

You were never even cannon fodder, monkey toucher.

Post your discharge orders here. Or just post ANYTHING that makes you sound vaguely American.

YOU are a funny little monkey — here are YOUR words:

“Just a bunch of stupid Goyim. You really don't deserve a country any more. Go ahead. Self destruct. Whatever. There's no way to fix it. You're fat. You're stupid. You're ugly. You're misbegotten and badly bred. You have no morals. You have no courage. You have no work ethic. Your kids can't read. And if they could, they'd read garbage. They don't know math. They don't know science. They know no real history. They only know how to dress like “gangsta” and talk jive. They are filled with “political correctness” though. Great. Fine. The end.”

Real mature, doofus!

Now, that was just plain lame. Are you running out of gas? Come on. Get with it! I know you can do better than this. That wasn’t even worth scrolling down for.

Tell us about your “family tree”. Haaaaaa, haaaaa, haaa. Now that’s funny right there. “Family tree”! Get it? No? Oh well.

Are you asking that based on you own personal experiences? (I mean, being an experienced monkeyfucker yourself.) Because I had no idea how monkeys feel about penis size until hearing that just now from you. No, I get along just FINE with the ladies.

Well, it's getting out in the drive-by media now.

From David Hahn, “Publisher StatePaper.com ” August 5, 2009.

Publisher: Obama Should Produce Original Birth Certificate

At StatePaper.com, we know by making this statement we will be instantly tagged as “racist,” “birther,” or other pejorative terms by those who defend the President of the United States. We often defend the President and the job he is doing and are regularly lambasted for being “too liberal” or an “Obama lover” by some of our most prolific critics.

The fact in question here is the constitutional qualification of the President of the United States to hold office. With a simple nod, the President could offer the American people the best evidence, the source document(s), as he learned about at Harvard, and dispel those who question his birth as a natural born citizen. His failure to provide this best evidence, when it could be so easily done, raises only more questions, which fuels an ugly public debate.

I guess there are some things that not even a journalism school graduate can stomach.

Yeah, yeah, petticoats, monkey fondling, homo eroticism and all the rest of the sick shit you like to fantasize about aside, what about the Southern “Poverty” Law Center coming out basically saying that Lou Dobbs needs to be fired for having the temerity to mention the fact that Obama hasn't got either the authority? or the guts? to sign a release to produce his long form CertifiCATE of Live Birth to show that he meets constitutional requirements to be in the office of POTUS. Oh, and get it straight for us all which one of the two hospitals he has claimed as his place of birth is the right one. Unless HE had the capability of being born in TWO PLACES AT ONCE in all his greatness. Maybe that is the reason he won't release it. Maybe it lists both hospitals! Ok, back to your gay,monkey, women's clothing, sexual appendage, and garment soiling mindset now. Thanks for your input. You might try putting some of your commentary on bathroom walls where it will fit in better though.

“Just a bunch of stupid MONKEY Goyim. You really don't deserve a country any more. Go ahead. Self destruct. Whatever. There's no way to fix it. You're fat. You're stupid. You're ugly. You're misbegotten and CROSSBRED WITH MONKEYS AND APES. You have no morals. You have no courage. You have no work ethic. Your kids can't read. And if they could, they'd read garbage. They don't know math. They don't know science. They know no real history. They only know how to dress like “gangstas” and talk APE jive. They are filled with “political correctness” though. Great. Fine. The end.”

There. I fixed it. It was incomplete before. It is much better now I think. Thanks for bringing it back up so I could make those corrections. How very thoughtful of you. Considering you are an undeveloped little bug eating primate. Now tell me who invented the first prototypes of a jet powered stealth bomber.

My GOD but you are fucking AMUSING. How long did you obsess away to come up with that little rant? I'm really flattered. Why is it that people always think any mention of simians is automatically a racial slur and directed at Negroes in particular? It sounds like they are for some reason a little too sensitive about it. I wonder why.

Then you said:

“He does not have to jump when you tell him to. He does not have to show you his papers.”

Yes he does! He is a public servant. All federal government officials are supposed to be serving the American people. That is the nature of the job of being a “public servant”! They are not above the law because they were elected to an office. The law says he should be qualified to hold his office. He ran for the office knowing that, which means that he accepted the responsibility for being a good leader. Which in this case, means doing whatever he needs to do to calm and assure the general public and to show he is qualified. A CertifiCATION is not the same as a CertifCATE of Live Birth. What part of that don't you OBOTS get? HOSPITAL PREPARED and DOCTOR SIGNED. Gee, talk about stupid. Why can't you see that?

You want to see the “birther” insurrection go away? No, I think you live for it. It defines your otherwise pointless little tree-swinging life. But, if Obama wants to end it, HE NEEDS to somehow make it available to the public in a believable way and if he does, we will just try to survive his socialist shit for the next 41 months and then see if there will be anything left worth salvaging.

“but to show the UNCONVINCED racist jerks out there that, “gosh darnit, I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen for myself, but the nigger was really born here!”"

YES, because what has been shown so far is far from CONVINCING. Withholding the original appears SUSPICIOUS. That COLB shown on the web is believed by many to be COUNTERFEIT. So if you want to convince all the “racist jerks” that “the nigger was really born here”, you need to use your influence with him to convince HIM to release something that looks like this:

http://www.gopmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/1…

This will show all the “racists” that he is legitimate and in the White House lawfully. If he actually has one that states he was born in Hawaii and if it was witnessed by a Hawaiian doctor and hospital staff.

So knock yourself out with your pooh flinging insults. It matters not. Tree-dragging, foliage smashing, chest pounding, screeching diversions and tantrums won't have any effect. Just show the proof for what you claim. Or tell Obama to. Only he can do it. And yet, he won't. Ever wonder why?

Thanks again! I really appreciate you taking the time. Now tell me this hasn't been fun. Huh? Go ahead! Admit it! You look forward to seeing what I've said every day. Don't you. Cause you save everything! I'm flattered.

I know! Let's just call this little series of yours: “The Best of Randwulf”.

You're obsessed with me aren't you? Yeah, I know. You are.

Well, just keep trying to evolve. You'll get there. The secret is to just keep bangin' them rocks together.

Flattery will get you nowhere.

Actually, I am amused by all of your monkey comments about my “monkey-themed” comments. Partially because you seem to be so fond of making them instead of explaining why your “president” withholds all personal information in a continued stonewalling action by his attorneys, while paper trails and computer records are destroyed and scrubbed by all his other goons in a frantic attempt to erase all evidence about his shady, almost assuredly criminal past. But I digress.

I love it when you call me “stupid” darling. It lets me know you care.

Oh yeah, the Civil War II prep. Coming along just fine. We figure it will sound something like this: BLAH, blah, blah….oooh oooh aaah aaah eeee eeee tuki tuki (liberal left wingers) and then blam!! blam! blam! boom! bang! pow!!! (conservative right wingers). And then blessed silence.

“Darling?” I would call you a faggot but that would be an insult to my gay friends, any of whom would wipe the floor with you.

I will just have to repeat what I told you before. I’m not interested. Keep smooth-talking that monkey at the Colorado Springs zoo. Bringing extra bananas might pay off.

Your civil war II prep sounds a lot like your earlier suggestion for a game of “Commies and Patriots.” You’re an imbecile.

It’s not even necessary to provide facts, since you never make any cogent argument requiring a refutation. But since I never mind embarrassing you, here’s a reply from the National Review Online’s editors:

“The fundamental fiction is that Obama has refused to release his “real” birth certificate. This is untrue. The document that Obama has made available is the document that Hawaiian authorities issue when they are asked for a birth certificate. There is no secondary document cloaked in darkness, only the state records that are used to generate birth certificates when they are requested.

If one applies for a United States passport, the passport office will demand a birth certificate. It defines this as an official document bearing “your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records.” The Hawaiian birth certificate President Obama has produced—the document is formally known as a “certificate of live birth”—bears that information. It has been inspected by reporters, and several state officials have confirmed that the information in permanent state records is identical to that on the president’s birth certificate—which is precisely what one expects, of course, since the state records are used to generate those documents when they are requested. In other words, what President Obama has produced is the “real” birth certificate of myth and lore.”

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTRjMTFhMzQxYmEzNjA2YWIwOTU4YWVjNzRmODE2NTI=

“oooh oooh aaah aaah eeee eeee tuki tuki” — the sound of randypuppy and his monkey soulmate getting it on after the monkey returns to randypuppy’s arms after being away on business for two days (when the circus travels to other towns).

I like that. Honesty, at last.

Animal’s last words were:

“I wish the birthers would fess up and say what this is about: they hate the thought of a democratic black president and would rather see him fail than do something good for America.”

randypuppy’s first words in reply were:

“Yes, I agree.”

What took you so long, monkeyfucker?

Tuci, you loveable little Paulbot moron, an opinion column in a web-only college newspaper is the best you can come up with?

Some examples of what all the “little people” get as birth certificates from the State of Hawaii and the only image we have of one actually signed by a doctor for Obama's birth (at the bottom of the list). I think it is a forgery. All the others before it are examples of what a birth certificate looks like and contain information that can determine actual place of birth. (For those of you who need a picture.)

http://passportsusa.com/wp-content/gallery/pass…

Edith Costa 1962

http://www.cfourstrategies.com/colb.jpg

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http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/20…

Alan ? 1963

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/upl…

Nordyke 1961 (A day after Obama)

http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/HawaiinBirt…

anonymous from 1978

http://patriotpost.us/images/broadcasts/humor/i…

The only doctor signed birth certificate yet to surface for Obama but could be a forgery.

I think the story emerging about Oily Taints involvement as an informant for the KGB is fascinating. Perhaps her misguided efforts are part of some attempt to remedy the demons from her past.

But ratting out your neighbors to the Soviets cannot be undone.

Should the president run for re-election demand that he produce his birth certificate.

Where there is smoke, there is fire!!!

Please do. It will ensure his overwhelming re-election.

Your name is not maria perez. No one with that name would write such asinine garbage.

Obama DID produce his birth certificate, you troll fuckwit. Just ask the Obamaphiles at the National Review Online:

“The fundamental fiction is that Obama has refused to release his “real” birth certificate. This is untrue. The document that Obama has made available is the document that Hawaiian authorities issue when they are asked for a birth certificate. There is no secondary document cloaked in darkness, only the state records that are used to generate birth certificates when they are requested.

If one applies for a United States passport, the passport office will demand a birth certificate. It defines this as an official document bearing “your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records.” The Hawaiian birth certificate President Obama has produced—the document is formally known as a “certificate of live birth”—bears that information. It has been inspected by reporters, and several state officials have confirmed that the information in permanent state records is identical to that on the president’s birth certificate—which is precisely what one expects, of course, since the state records are used to generate those documents when they are requested. In other words, what President Obama has produced is the “real” birth certificate of myth and lore.”

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTRjMTFhMz…

That's nice, randypuppy. Got anything to refute the position argued by: The Wall Street Journal, National Review, World Net Daily, Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, factcheck.org, Chiyome Fukino, Janice Okubo, Linda Lingle, and the rest of the industrialized world, to the effect that Obama's COLB is authentic and he is a natural born U.S. citizen?

Go back to plotting about “putting steel up all our asses” you pathetic fuckwit.

Not only that, but the opinion column misconstrues the best evidence rule. When the evidence you seek is prohibited by law from being obtained by you, it is NOT the best evidence.

For example, the best evidence as to whether Bush lied his way into war would naturally have to come from Bush's mouth. But you cannot sue Bush and make him come talk to you in Federal Court about the war strategy and the reasons for going to war. If you could, MoveOn.org would have 1,000 lawyers itching to file suit and handle it pro bono (Count me among them!).

Naturally, I wouldn't expect Tuci78 to be honest about anything he writes. That is why he bores the shit out of me and I've moved on to fresher carrion.

“So knock yourself out with your pooh flinging insults. It matters not. Tree-dragging, foliage smashing, chest pounding, screeching diversions and tantrums won't have any effect. Just show the proof for what you claim. Or tell Obama to.”

monkey-toucher, at what point are you going to stop talking about what YOU have been doing at this site, and focus on what I have written, instead?

Everything you wrote applies to you, not me. I'm rubber. You're glue. And you're really fucking stupid. How's that civil war planning coming along, sword-crossed monkeyfucker?

I'm not obsessed with you. I just enjoy watching you wet yourself having to re-read the pathetic bullshit you write when you're all pissed off. Your insults are hilarious. Your attempts at expressing your opinion are classic humor at this point.

Why would I say this hasn't been fun? I laugh my ass off at what a fuckwit you are.

The Best of Randwulf? Nah. I have a title already.

“Spreading Birther Lies and Primate Thighs: The Petticoat Papers of Randypuppy.”

Admit it, baboon buggerer. You really enjoy re-reading your asinine writing.

You re-read it an think to yourself, “why did no one indicate that they 'like' my writing? How is it that I've been stuck on 6 points for weeks? Is no one out there paying attention? I'm predicting civil war and threatening to ram steel up everyone's ass who disagrees with me. WHY is this not more persuasive in the marketplace of ideas? I used my A-list monkey insults! Hello? ANYbody home? Ah, fuck you all. You wouldn't know genius writing if it bit you on your monkey asses!”

You're a funny guy, randypuppy. Other people are as stupid as you, I'm sure. They just don't advertise that fact to the world. Oh, wait, I guess that makes them smarter than you!

My bad. Oh well, it's not like my insults affect you in the slightest. That's what you said right? Then why is your upper lip quivering? Why are you choking back tears? Is it because of my writing, or is it because that monkey fingering your anus has extra-rough, extra-long fingers?

Media watchdogs can call for the head of anyone they don't like. People say the same thing about Bill O'Reilly, Keith Olbermann, and Oprah Winfrey. No one listens. Except, apparently, you.

Lou Dobbs didn't say anything about authority or guts. I'm not surprised that you mentioned those things. You don't have either one, so of course you fixate on them.

Get back to fantasizing about shoving your steel up everyone's ass for “crossing swords” with you, Jedi Monkey.

Zut alors! At last, something approaching honesty from the primate-prober we know as randypuppy.

Below, Animal chews on randypuppy's fatty ideas before spitting them out at the end of his post, thusly:

“I wish the birthers would fess up and say what this is about: they hate the thought of a democratic black president and would rather see him fail than do something good for America.” — Animal

randypuppy's first words in reply were:

“Yes, I agree.” — Randwulf the monkeyfucker

What took you so long to admit that you're a racist fuckwit, randypuppy? I mean, we all knew it. But you kept being coy. Sort of the way you were coy about your feelings for King Kong. You pretended to be interested in Naomi Watts. You said that's why you had a chubby during the movie. But your tears when Kong died were cries from a wounded, tender heart. You can't fool us. We know true love when we see it.

But back to you being a racist prick. Glad you finally admitted it. Now I can move on to other business. Until your stupid monkeyfondling ass posts something again.

That would be like “plotting” the swatting of a shit-eating fly.

Hey don't try making friends with me. Learned any new dirty words today? Glad to have you back! “Primate-prober”? OOOh, you must have splooged all over you own little prehensile vine clutching tail while dreaming up that one! Go have a banana now. You're little brain needs the potassium.

“The Hawaiian birth certificate President Obama has produced—the document is formally known as a “certificate of live birth”—bears that”

Wrong monkeyboy. It is a CertiFICATION of Live Birth. Quit eating bugs, wipe your shit off you dirty little paws and read what it says at the top. And it doesn't give the most important piece of information in a “nativeborn” case like this. That being the lack of a means of determining who witnessed the actual birth and where it happened. Doctor? Hospital?

Here Chongo. A picture of OBAMA'S COLB. What does it say at the top? Stupid fuck.

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/20…

Did I say “Stupid fuck”?

“I'm rubber. You're glue.” I haven't heard that since 3rd grade. And I already answered about the CW planning. Go find it.

Ah, you see, you ARE obsessed with me.

WOW! Hey anybody else reading this simian porn from stephenmonkey? What a vivid description he can give of anything Ape-erotic! He must be thinking about it a lot. I really think I hit it on the head when I called him a MONKEYFUCKER the first time. Since then he just drones on and on and on about it. He just can't quit thinking about it. I'll bet he has mentioned it in every post directed at me. HMMM. The truth is, most apes and monkeys would probably just kill him if he tried to do to them what he describes. They are not as sick and un-natural as liberals you know.

Too busy poking about in monkey feces to pick up that grammar primer, eh randypuppy?

“You're” is a contraction.

“Your” is a possessive pronoun.

Your little brain needs to figure out a way to build a fort around yourself so that you don't get overrun by screeching, fleeing birthers in the Civil War Part Deux that you predicted in one of your trademark whiny-bitch rants.

Why are you arguing with the National Review Editors by whining to me? You DID understand that I was quoting a source there, right, shit-for-brains?

There were two subtle clues.

One was the presence of quotation marks surrounding quoted material.

The other was the presence of a link to the National Review Online editorial I was quoting from.

Oh wait there was a third hint. It was the part where I referenced the National Review Online.

I can see how this is confusing to you, randypuppy. You just scan posts for graphic depictions of monkey-randypuppy coitus. You don't understand any other words.

So these are not MY words, although I of course agree with them. You really ARE a dumbass, aren't you? See, I have spooky powers. I was able to tell that you're pathetic and stupid merely by reading the pathetic and stupid words you use to express yourself. I also noticed that you cannot understand what a quotation mark means.

But really, if you want to get snippy with the National Review Online editors, I fully encourage you to go to their offices and yell at them in person. No need to bring a videocamera. I'm sure they will record your idiocy for posterity.

Wow. I just found out that Discovery Channel is going to air a program about monkeys. You'd better get a box of tissues, some hand lotion, and a private room. You're in for a wild night!

randypuppy, now you've moved from mere stupidity all the way to the lofty heights of delusions of grandeur.

Much as you might fantasize about it happening, Obama will never take time out of his day to swat YOUR worthless carcass.

I know you wish he'd pay attention to you. Not gonna happen.

And I like how you had nothing to say to refute ANY of the sources I challenged you with in my post.

Keep posting, doofus. I keep telling you, you can't fix stupid. So we can keep going as long as you want to keep embarrassing yourself. I'm not the one telling you to write such lame, asinine shit. Civil War part deux, indeed.

Prove that you were ever enrolled in 3rd grade, you inbred fuckwit.

Post your 3rd grade records here.

Then get back to telling us about your civil war plans. All you did was make monkey grunting sounds. I guess you were replaying the sounds of your erotic escapades from your recent overnight trip to the zoo.

We want to know more about the Civil War you envision and less about your shameful and ungodly sex life.

No. I just can't stop laughing at what a stupid shit you are. You never find anyone willing to say such dumb shit, even in a bar at last call.

“Duh, I think the President's birf sirtifikat should be on guarded display in the Capitol rotunda under protective safety glass.”

“Duh, I'm leaving America and going to Canada because America is a bunch of uneducated Mexico-touchers.”

“Duh, I can't find my monkey hormone pills. Without them, Mr. Teeny will catch on that I'm not really a monkey and then there goes my sex life.”

No, randypuppy. I'm not obsessed with you. I am just using YOU to illustrate the point that birthers are stupid, racist, xenophobic, and un-American. That is why I quote your words, that is why I re-post your dumb-as-fuck posts, and that is why I mock you.

You tried to act like a tough guy when you were insulting non-birthers who actually posted facts, law, and admissible evidence. Your arrogant stupidity cries out for attention. If you ever had the balls to say those stupid things in public, you'd get laughed out of the place.

Have some pride in your work. Most of what I do is just post your own ridiculously inane words. You were happy to write those things, and you even boast that you were “right” to say them. So stop whining about it now. You're my pet birther bitch until I get bored and move on to a new target.

If you don't like that, please say so. I like it better knowing you don't like it. Isn't that what you said to a chimpanzee who wanted to back out of your little “arrangement,” you dumbfuck birther?

See, the thing is, you never called me a monkeyfucker. You, first of all, are too much of a pansy to use the word “monkeyfucker.”

You, in the course of writing to other people, repeatedly used the wussy variant “monkeyf@cker.” I guess that's because you're too dainty to curse, you wobbly-legged panty-wearing wuss.

I'm glad that you like the attention you're receiving. All I do is use better variants of the stupid insults you tried to sling at other people.

And of course other people read your simian porn. That's why they comment to YOU about it. Like the guy who said “real mature” to YOU when you gave a limp-wristed reply to ME. And your bitch ass whined “didn't you read his post?”

THAT made me laugh all over again.

God, you're dumb.

Here again for all you freaks to look at are pictures of what real birth certificates from Hawaii look like. I'm not going to waste more time with Steviemonkey and Kenthemonkeyfucker, letting them be “big men on the keyboard” by being soooooooo brave and cheeky. Back to the facts. No long form from Obama. No proof of US birth. No eligibility for POTUS. Period. End of story. He is done. Get used to it or fuck off and die. Check out these images. Who would have thought such things existed or that anyone could have gotten their hands on them? These are actual images of Hawaiian CertIFCATES of Live Birth!! Oh, my god! How did these insignificant little people manage to have these in their own possession? Some may even be photocopied from the originals in Hawaiian records vaults. You know what this means? They have even said in Hawaii that something like this exists there for Obama. Check them out. For those of you who can't quite grasp the difference between a CertIFICATION of Live Birth and a CertiFICATE of Live Birth, click on the links and look at the pretty pictures. Dave Weigel, this means you!

http://passportsusa.com/wp-content/gallery/pass…

Edith Costa

http://www.cfourstrategies.com/colb.jpg

Blank

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/20…

Alan ? 1963

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/upl…

Nordyke 1961 (A day after Obama)

http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/HawaiinBirt…

anonymous from 1978

http://patriotpost.us/images/broadcasts/humor/i…

Only doctor signed birth certificate yet to surface for Obama but could be a forgery.

Oh, yes, and then there is this “Certification” from “Factcheck”(?)which has not been seen or handled outside of any of the Obama-friendly sources that have posted different versions using scans and digital photos posted on line. This is all Obama has ever offered as proof that he was born on US soil. Notice there is no mention of a hospital or the name of any attending physician. Hawaii has now admitted that an original long form exists or have lied and said there is one when there isn’t. Since it has never been posted or released by Obama, there is no way to know what it might say. But here is what Obama’s people offer.

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/20…

Obama’s version of a CertifiCATION of Live Birth (probably a forgery).

Where is Obama's long form you fucking monkeys?? Answer that or shut the fuck up!
You stupid, cowardly, twisted, fucks. I deleted all your fucking replies below and won't even waste my time with them any more. Just morons, all of you. Can't answer a question so you always just attack with your stupid school yard obscenities. Pathetic wastes of protoplasm. None of you are worth the cost of the bullet it would take to relieve us of you. But I would gladly pay the price and do the deed myself anyway. It is coming. It is coming soon.

I am an American.
I am the part you won't recognise.
But get used to me.
Black,confident,cocky.
My name, not yours.
My religion, not yours.
Get used to me.

Muhammad Ali

Or Barack Hussein Obama
You lost, We won.
Get used to it

What Hawaiian “Long Form” Certificates of Live Birth look like.
Here is one side by side with Obama’s “CertiFICATION”

http://www.youdecidepolitics.com/wp-content/upl…

A blank one.

http://www.cfourstrategies.com/colb.jpg

Some guy named Alan 1963

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/20…

One of the Nordyke twins from 1961 (a day after Obama)

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/upl…

An anonymous one from 1978. Yep still using the long form in 1978!

http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/HawaiinBirt…

Only doctor signed birth certificate yet to surface for Obama but this could be a forgery.

http://patriotpost.us/images/broadcasts/humor/i…

Oh, yes, and then there is this “Certification” from 2008 which has not been seen or handled outside of any of the Obama friendly sources that have posted different versions using scans and digital photos posted on line. This is all Obama has ever offered as proof that he was born on US soil. Notice there is no mention of a hospital or the name of any attending physician. Hawaii has now admitted that an original long form exists or have lied and said there is one when there isn’t. Since it has never been posted or released by Obama, there is no way to know what it might say. But here is what Obama’s people offer. Again, Obama’s alleged “CertificATION”of Live Birth (probably a forgery)

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/20…

So, what tribe are you from?

You don't get it, randypuppy.

You STILL haven't fixed these links!

The problem is they're all to crackpot websites that don't purport to tell the truth; they purport to ask spooky questions.

Except the one with “humor” in the link address. That one doesn't even purport to ask questions.

I know, I know. You don't know what “purport: means. It's okay. I didn't expect to teach you anything this time. You already know you're stupid.

And you already know that no one gives a shit about your whackjob fringe website links. That's why no one cared the last time you posted them. That's why you got all mad and called everyone “freaks” and “morons” before threatening to kill us all.

And that's why I like fucking with you. Because you go out of your way to show that you cannot stand it, but you try to dish it out in absurd and unintentionally-hilarious ways.

Get back to something you know something about – getting monkeys drunk.

“Where is Obama's long form you fucking monkeys??”

Whoa whoa whoa. Randy, pupster, get some fresh air.

Your pet monkeys don't have Obama's long form. You need to go to Hawai'i. I don't think the original birth certificate is even a “long form” but I do know for a fact that your monkeys don't have it.

Have you re-read your asinine post? Are you proud of all the nonsense and generalized insults?

“It is coming. It is coming soon.”

What is, your unemployment money? Because I know you don't mean that threat about killing us all once you save up the allowance money to get a bullet.

You just say that because your hurt inner child wants to level things out.

You want to strike out at the people who won't take you seriously.

Well, see, the thing is… No one takes you seriously. And you cannot strike out at anyone anyway. Even if you could, you're too chickenshit to do it.

So I guess that just leaves you and the monkeys. If only you hadn't pissed them off and spoiled “the mood” by accusing them of hoarding Obama's birth certificate. Stupid move on your part, randypuppy. You'll have to stroke it to King Kong again.

You certainly talk a lot about masturbation. That is, when you're not calling everyone stupid, or crazy, or ignorant, or hateful, or…………..oh, yes, correcting typos. Did I use too many dots there, monkeymeat?

What Hawaiian “Long Form” Certificates of Live Birth look like.
Look quickly before they all get redirected like the last posting down below.

Here is one side by side with Obama’s “CertiFICATION”

http://www.youdecidepolitics.com/wp-content/upl…

A blank one.

http://www.cfourstrategies.com/colb.jpg

Some guy named Alan 1963

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/20…

One of the Nordyke twins from 1961 (a day after Obama)

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/upl…

An anonymous one from 1978. Yep still using the long form in 1978!

http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/HawaiinBirt…

Only doctor signed birth certificate yet to surface for Obama but this could be a forgery.

http://patriotpost.us/images/broadcasts/humor/i…

Oh, yes, and then there is this “Certification” from 2008 which has not been seen or handled outside of any of the Obama friendly sources that have posted different versions using scans and digital photos posted on line. This is all Obama has ever offered as proof that he was born on US soil. Notice there is no mention of a hospital or the name of any attending physician. Hawaii has now admitted that an original long form exists or have lied and said there is one when there isn’t. Since it has never been posted or released by Obama, there is no way to know what it might say. But here is what Obama’s people offer. Again, Obama’s alleged “CertificATION”of Live Birth (probably a forgery)

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/20…

OK, so I see what is happening. Someone is redirecting the links. Don't like the truth? Just cover it up or create diversions and confusion and engage in any tactic that will prevent any logical discussion of the facts. Images of real birth certificates from Hawaii are kind of upsetting for the Obama worshipers because it exposes the lie that Hawaii won't give him one, or doesn't have one to give him even if they wanted to. How fucking ridiculous is that. He could have one in ten minutes if he ordered it released. So just keep fucking with my image links. I'll keep posting them. You can't destroy all the evidence and you can't deny the truth forever. I just checked the links in my posting below and as of the time of this posting, they all work.

How did you do that dipshit? Are you Dave Weigel? Do you know him? All the links were redirected. I posted them again though. They just worked fine 2 minutes ago. We will see how long that lasts before one of your “people” (monkeys with them?) fucks with them again. TRUTH? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! (Thanks Jack!)

This posting has been hacked into and links redirected. Go to the more recent one above to see links.

Orly Taitz is crazy and anyone that believes her diatribe is just as crazy as she is. Everything she has claimed has been proven to be false. What is her deal anyway? She rants and raves like a lunatic and looks like an aging lush that took makeup lesions from Tammy Faye Baker. Attention all Birthers! Get over it!

Paranoid, much?

Your links haven't been fixed. The problem wasn't that they were broken. It's that they're unpersuasive.

Hail Mary fulla grace…. randypuppy is giving keit von Einstein a run for his money as Dumbest Birther of the Day. keit is on the “Is this the source of the forged Kenyan Birth Certificate” thread. randypuppy is here on the “Surprise: Orly Taitz still lying…” thread.

So we have an AFC Champion, randypuppy the monkeytoucher, and an NFC Champion, keit von Einstein. Who will be the Super Birther? Time will tell.

I present evidence in support of randypuppy, as follows.

randypuppy is bitching in his usual paranoid way about someone re-directing the links he posted to various irrelevant birth certificate examples.

I saw the links yesterday and wrote to him telling him that the links were unpersuasive because they go to crackpot websites.

He REPLIED to me asking me how I redirected his links.

He then posted the links again today.

After re-posting the links today, he subsequently posted his Declaration of Defiant Dependence, in which he tells us that although we (he thinks) keep “fucking with” his links, he will keep posting them. Because he really needs the approval of people who he thinks are fucking with his links.

Absurd in itself, but anyway, it shows that he paid no attention whatsoever to the issue with his links, which is not that they're broken, but that they suck.

Observe and report:

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stephenperry, 14 hours ago

“You don't get it, randypuppy.

You STILL haven't fixed these links!

The problem is they're all to crackpot websites that don't purport to tell the truth; they purport to ask spooky questions.

Except the one with “humor” in the link address. That one doesn't even purport to ask questions.

I know, I know. You don't know what “purport” means. It's okay. I didn't expect to teach you anything this time. You already know you're stupid.

And you already know that no one gives a shit about your whackjob fringe website links. That's why no one cared the last time you posted them. That's why you got all mad and called everyone “freaks” and “morons” before threatening to kill us all.

And that's why I like fucking with you. Because you go out of your way to show that you cannot stand it, but you try to dish it out in absurd and unintentionally-hilarious ways.

Get back to something you know something about – getting monkeys drunk.”

________________

Randwulf
13 hours ago

“How did you do that dipshit? Are you Dave Weigel? Do you know him? All the links were redirected. I posted them again though. They just worked fine 2 minutes ago. We will see how long that lasts before one of your “people” (monkeys with them?) fucks with them again. TRUTH? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! (Thanks Jack!)”
______________________________

It goes without saying that I did not Hail Mary fulla grace…. randypuppy is giving keit von Einstein a run for his money as Dumbest Birther of the Day. keit is on the “Is this the source of the forged Kenyan Birth Certificate” thread. randypuppy is here on the “Surprise: Orly Taitz still lying…” thread.

So we have an AFC Champion, randypuppy the monkeytoucher, and an NFC Champion, keit von Einstein. Who will be the Super Birther? Time will tell.

I present evidence in support of randypuppy, as follows.

randypuppy is bitching in his usual paranoid way about someone re-directing the links he posted to various irrelevant birth certificate examples.

I saw the links yesterday and wrote to him telling him that the links were unpersuasive because they go to crackpot websites.

He REPLIED to me asking me how I redirected his links.

He then posted the links again.

He then posted his Declaration of Defiant Dependence, in which he tells us that although we (he thinks) keep “fucking with” his links, he will keep posting them. Absurd in itself, but anyway, it shows that he paid no attention whatsoever to the issue with his links, which is not that they're broken, but that they suck.

Observe and report:

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stephenperry, 14 hours ago

“You don't get it, randypuppy.

You STILL haven't fixed these links!

The problem is they're all to crackpot websites that don't purport to tell the truth; they purport to ask spooky questions.

Except the one with “humor” in the link address. That one doesn't even purport to ask questions.

I know, I know. You don't know what “purport” means. It's okay. I didn't expect to teach you anything this time. You already know you're stupid.

And you already know that no one gives a shit about your whackjob fringe website links. That's why no one cared the last time you posted them. That's why you got all mad and called everyone “freaks” and “morons” before threatening to kill us all.

And that's why I like fucking with you. Because you go out of your way to show that you cannot stand it, but you try to dish it out in absurd and unintentionally-hilarious ways.

Get back to something you know something about – getting monkeys drunk.”

________________

Randwulf
13 hours ago

“How did you do that dipshit? Are you Dave Weigel? Do you know him? All the links were redirected. I posted them again though. They just worked fine 2 minutes ago. We will see how long that lasts before one of your “people” (monkeys with them?) fucks with them again. TRUTH? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! (Thanks Jack!)”
______________________________

So now the monkeyfucker thinks I'm Dave Weigel. “How did you do that dipshit?” LMAO.

It goes without saying that I did not re-direct his links. I doubt that anyone else did. But I certainly didn't claim to do that, and his reply shows that he thinks I did.

Who wins, folks? von Einstein will have to swing for the fences.

So now the monkeyfucker thinks I'm Dave Weigel. “How did you do that dipshit?” LMAO.

Who wins, folks? von Einstein will have to swing for the fences.

Some food for thought concerning the notion that all the officials who have confirmed the COLB's authenticity are “corrupt” and “in on the conspiracy….”

If we assume the birthers are correct, then government officials in any or perhaps all of the following places are in on the conspiracy to hide President Obama's true birthplace:

Hawai'i, Kenya, California, Masschusetts, Illinois, and Washington, D.C.

These co-conspirators are a heterogeneous mix of people from different political parties and socioeconomic strata.

You have the Republican Governor of Hawai'i, Linda Lingle. You've got Kenyan goat-herders sitting around Sarah Obama and “Bishop” Ron McRae. And everyone in between.

There is an obvious flaw in the logic supporting the birther's corrupt officials argument.

It goes back to the heterogeneity of the population of co-conspirators.

Take Linda Lingle, for example. She is the Governor. She has a staff. Some of them have access to her conversations, writings, and meetings. Some of them have to be in on it, as well. Those people, who signed up to work for a Republican Governor, probably don't have lust for Obama in their hearts.

One of them, by now, would have reached out to someone in the media, perhaps even by anonymously leaking it, with the information necessary to prove the conspiracy exists and Obama was really born on foreign soil.

You wouldn't even have to give away the full answer. Just a hint. Believe me, the right wing would follow the trail to the bitter end, like the dhole chasing Mowgli to the Bee-People.

But you could make MILLIONS for yourself and be a hero to racist white people all throughout the country, if you just slipped a copy of a document proving there's a conspiracy afoot into your briefcase as you're locking up the office one Thursday evening. No one would know it was you. And if they did? So what! You've got millions of dollars and hundreds of 2nd Amendment loving patriots willing to provide you free personal security around the clock.

Take the Kenyan goat herders. Sarah Obama didn't say she saw Obama being born. Or did she? There were other people in that village. Surely some are as old as she is. Is it not possible that one of those older people would also remember having been present at the birth of the world's most famous black man?

Can one of those people not be coaxed into sitting down in some courtroom and saying a few words? Failing that, are they impervious to offers of compensation to tell their story to Sean Hannity? Do they not have dire and urgent need of everything from clean water to Turkish bath towels to food that didn't grow in sand to a house that is somewhere besides this GOD AWFUL FUCKING VILLAGE?

Is Sean Hannity not willing to pay $1,000,000 for this information? I guarantee you that Rupert Murdoch is. In fact, I bet you he'd sell you Sean Hannity for that information.

You can follow this out with the officials who know about his college records, or his law school records, or his law firm records, or his elective office records. Are NONE of those people in foreclosure right now? Are they all Democrats?

Do crabs sit atop one another contentedly in barrels now?

So it doesn't make sense. Too many cooks spoil the broth. Too many co-conspirators in too many political parties in too many continents with too many individualized desires and vulnerabilities spoils the conspiracy theory.

What Hawaiian “Long Form” Certificates of Live Birth look like.
Here is one side by side with Obama’s “CertiFICATION”

http://www.youdecidepolitics.com/wp-content/upl…

A blank one.

http://www.cfourstrategies.com/colb.jpg

Some guy named Alan 1963

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/20…

One of the Nordyke twins from 1961 (a day after Obama)

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/upl…

An anonymous one from 1978. Yep still using the long form in 1978!

http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/HawaiinBirt…

Only doctor signed birth certificate yet to surface for Obama but this could be a forgery.

http://patriotpost.us/images/broadcasts/humor/i…

Oh, yes, and then there is this “Certification” from 2008 which has not been seen or handled outside of any of the Obama friendly sources that have posted different versions using scans and digital photos posted on line. This is all Obama has ever offered as proof that he was born on US soil. Notice there is no mention of a hospital or the name of any attending physician. Hawaii has now admitted that an original long form exists or have lied and said there is one when there isn’t. Since it has never been posted or released by Obama, there is no way to know what it might say. But here is what Obama’s people offer. Again, Obama’s alleged “CertificATION”of Live Birth (probably a forgery)

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/20…

So as it appears to have gone is that the birthers got punked by a set-up Kenyan-BC that no sooner was it presented to the public than some guy in Australia just happened to be ready to claim it was fake. Oh well, that still doesn't change where BHO was actually born and we still haven't seen the original BC which was almost for sure once on file in Hawaii. Fact probably is that after Barry Soetoro was adopted in Indonesia he never legally changed his name or citizenship to American. He did manage to get a passport to Pakistan in 1981 probably as an Indonesian. BHO attended three expensive colleges also as an Indonesian(or some other Foreign Student status). The Kenyan birth Grandma Obama claims to have witnessed is just a red-herring to throw us off the scent of the Indonesian citizenship. Let's see the college records & that original BC would still be nice to look at. We haven't made much progress but don't lose heart. Pray the truth is revealed soon before anymore damage is done.

Birthers. Go figure. They forge a Kenyan BC to prove their idiot fantasies and then claim it was a “conspiracy” to discredit them when it's proven a fraud. I used to think 911 truthers were the stupidest people on earth, but these birther nutjobs take the cake.

Pray you grow a brain soon, before you make a fool of yourself any more than you already have. Most of the BS in your post came from an April fools email hoax.

Way down the column of a similar thread on this subject and off to the right edge somewhere, under the deepest layers of monkeypoop is this little gem from Steviemonkey (stephenperry):

“We are talking about the President's COLB. He posted it online over a year ago. It proves where he was born. Your refusal to acknowledge that proves you are a racist.”

Well when you get through all the insults, disparaging remarks, invective, accusations of lunacy, and dirty little elementary school rhymes, this is the Anti-Birth-Truther, well, let's just say “position”, since it is really not a valid argument of point worth making. In fact it is a blatant lie because no real Certificate of Live Birth for Obama has ever been seen. And of course in an effort to intimidate the opposition into silence, they almost always label as “racist” any person who refuses to accept their abbreviated form of COLB (certification) as proof of Hawaiian birth. Likewise, they will ignore the fact that no person in any position or public authority has ever seen the document that they have photo-shopped, scanned and photographed to post on the web as their “proof. That is the heart of the issue. They will do ANYTHING but address that fact. They only weapons in their arsenal are defamation and personal attacks for all detractors. If you don't believe that, just watch their replies to this post. So I'll post again the images of LONG FORM Hawaiian BCs from in and around and much later than Obama's birth year so that you can see that they were issued and do exist and so that you can see the kind of information contained in them. You will notice much more than what is contained in Obama's alleged COLB at “FackCheck”. See for yourself.

Here again are images of what Hawaiian “Long Form” Certificates of Live Birth look like.
Here is one side by side with Obama’s “CertiFICATION”. Read the names of each of the documents at the top and centered. One says certificate and the other says certification.

http://www.youdecidepolitics.com/wp-content/upl…

A blank one.

http://www.cfourstrategies.com/colb.jpg

Some guy named Alan 1963

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/20…

One of the Nordyke twins from 1961 (a day after Obama)

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/upl…

An anonymous one from 1978. Yep still using the long form in 1978!

http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/HawaiinBirt…

Only doctor signed birth certificate yet to surface for Obama but this could be a forgery.

http://patriotpost.us/images/broadcasts/humor/i…

Oh, yes, and then there is this “Certification” from 2008 which has not been seen or handled outside of any of the Obama friendly sources that have posted different versions using scans and digital photos posted on line. This is all Obama has ever offered as proof that he was born on US soil. Notice there is no mention of a hospital or the name of any attending physician. Hawaii has now admitted that an original long form exists or have lied and said there is one when there isn’t. Since it has never been posted or released by Obama, there is no way to know what it might say. But here is what Obama’s people offer. Again, Obama’s alleged “CertificATION”of Live Birth (probably a forgery)

http://nativeborncitizen.files.wordpress.com/20…

Food for thought, part 3.

I call this one: “Birthers Tell The Stupidest Lies”

The birther I will use in this example is Randwulf. I could use any birther, but we all know how Randwulf cries out for attention and talks to himself when he does not receive it.

Just bear in mind, as you read the following posts, that they are each from the same poster. Randwulf. He posted all of these on the “Lou Dobbs: Hey, Why Won't Obama Release His Birth Certificate” thread a couple of weeks ago. Each of these is his word-for-word post in its entirety; I changed nothing and left nothing out. WYSIWYG.

By the way, for your reference, he was NOT directing his post at me in any of these instances. I didn't even post on that thread. Also, keep in mind that he is utterly above making personal attacks.

Post 1:

“You know what… you monkey f@cking, A$$-stained, piece of slime? If you ever had a human thought, and could put it into ENGLISH wording, I would possibly give you the time of day. You and all the other monkey-f@cks are in for a rude awakening. You don't have 10,000 peanuts picked out of your own simian sh1t to wager. So stick that up your escrow, sub-Saharan baboon butt! You don't have anything but your shit to double back! So why don't you and all the other proto-human wannabes tell your f@cking half-ape “president” to put his money somewhere other that into attorneys fees and produce some kind of REAL proof that he was BORN at all! It will cost him about $24 (at Safeway's current price) in bananas ($12) to get his birth certificate (if he has one) released. Oh, and I'm sure they would break with their usual computer generated COLB policy and make an actual photocopy of an original long form (if there is one) if he makes his request on official White House stationary. OOH OOH AAH AAH F@CKY YOOIIIII!!! MONKEY.”

Post 2:

“How did 30,000 illegal Mexican wetbacks get into our country and continue to run around with relative impunity? Could it be that nobody knows how to do their f@cking jobs anymore? He is and always was a con-man. The rules never applied to him. That is his mind set. It always was. He is a usurper and he is very close to being exposed. Get over it.”

Post 3:

“Oh good. That is a very intelligent response. What meds do you take with you Kool Aid bitch? I'll just play by your rules whenever you post. Here we go. Ready? You are stupid, kooky, deranged, delusional and otherwise mentally and emotionally f@cked up and therefore we don't have to listen to you. Like SHUT UP and stuff. There. Happy?”

Post 4:

“I can assure you that I am neither delusional nor impervious to facts, law, and truth. What do you think will happen when it becomes clear that Obama and all his minions are lying and covering up the lies? Remember Watergate? At the very least, he will be forced to resign from the post he should never have had in the first place. This won't go away like it did for Clinton when he was getting his blow jobs in the oval office. This is much more serious if it turns out like I suspect it will. So, enough of the name calling. I want to be civil but it is difficult to do when people attack personally instead of debating facts. Why does it always have to end this way?”

Post 5:

“Well, I think its about time we did away with some 'special' leaders again. What makes this country great is that most of the populous is still armed and could do it if things don't get done right.”

Post 6:

“Either present something of an argument in lieu of your insults and name calling or shut the f@ck up! Ok? Tell me why some people are carrying around the long form of birth certificate while Obama born in the same time period can not produce one. And since when do you lefties care about the health of the military or how politics at home could adversely affect their ability to fight the war successfully?

My earliest recollection of left wing liberal types being concerned about the military was of a bunch of dirty, drug soaked, long haired, Hippie f@cks rioting in the streets, spitting on men in uniform, burning flags and bad mouthing their country! Jane Fonda was their f@cking b1tch poster child and our military men in Hanoi prisons were being tortured for not talking to her lying whore ass while she sucked up to the commies and helped them make anti-American propaganda movies. That is how liberals are concerned about our military, bitch!

So who's the f@cking “JOKE”? So are you a liberal? I'll tell you right now that a hell of a lot more of the “birfoons” who have served in the military than there are anti-”birfoons” who have. Most of you libs are such f@cking pu$$ies that you wouldn't be worth a $hit in combat anyway. So take all your silly f@cking liberal mental disease and shove it up your commie ass. Absurd drivel indeed! We'll see. There is blood in the water.”

Post 7:

“Actually, it might surprise you to know that I am African-American. I'm not a racist. I AM a racialist though. Thanks for looking after us Negroes though. We really appreciate it. I'm a racialist (cowardly I suppose) in that I want what is best for my people without continuing to seem like I feel that it is OWED to me and mine. I don't know if you can understand that but there it is. Mr. Obama is not making it any easier for those of us who have worked hard to achieve integration into the American mainstream. He needs to be honest. It is so funny how everyone just assumes that because I have a problem with HIM, I must be a raging NEO-NAZI, KKK, “Birther”, One-Toothed, IN-BRED, whatever…..Oh and BTW …Randwulf is the pet name my German ex-wife gave me. I am now married to a beautiful woman of color. She likes the name too. What is YOUR deal?”

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I know, I know. I'm wondering the same thing. Who knew he had such a huge issue with Jane Fonda, right? And what, precisely, is a “racialist?”

Did you get a load of that “I want to be civil but it's difficult when people attack personally instead of debating facts. Why does it always have to end this way” thing? Kinda falls flat after he went off on that “bitch” that he called “stupid, kooky, deranged, delusional and otherwise mentally and emotionally f@cked up” so that he didn't “have to listen to” her.

Oh, yeah and of course I love the last one. Randwulf claims to be BLACK! He claims to be married to a woman “OF COLOR.” I really laughed out loud at that one.

Okay. So now you see what I see. You know Randwulf by now. You know me by now. And you understand why I mock Randwulf. I do it because he has it coming and goes looking for it.

I didn't make him go from lucid to raving. He was making a second lap around the track when I showed up.

Back to the point: Randwulf lies about a lot of things. He cannot plausibly be black. Nor would any woman “of color,” whatever he means by that, ever marry him.

How many black guys post at stormfront? He posts the SAME things here and at that site.

So yeah, birthers tell stupid lies. The stupidest, in fact.

Any disagreement?

BHO was never a natural-born U.S. citizen for even a minute. He was at best born with dual-citizenship to an underage mother who could not confer natural-born status under law at the time and a Kenyan-Brit father. Then at about five his Indonesian father adopted him, changed his name to Soetoro, etc. BHO went to Pakistan as a citizen of somewhere? Where? He attended college as a citizen of somewhere. Where? To the anti-birthers I ask this simple question: At what point did BHO(Soetoro) become an American (who doesn't place his hand over his heart during the National Anthem)? I believe more than ever BHO is hiding at least one major flaw in his citizenship status.

Bullshit. Your continuing to write that crap after it has been thoroughly debunked repeatedly proves you are a liar and intentionally trying to deceive people.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/08/05/bi…

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence…

Still crazy old spam. Been commented on several times already. Not any more intelligent than the first time it was posted. Thanks for playing.

Spam part II.

Spam…

Just had a thought. And just wanted to make randypuppy's facial muscles twitch uncontrollably.

It occurs to me that birthers are going about this all wrong. They're looking at the wrong end of the telescope.

Instead of trying to prove that Obama wasn't born in America, they should try to prove that America didn't exist when Obama was born.

Back when Obama was born, the country Randwulf referred to as “American” in his spiel about how “American [sic] is done” was unrecognizable to one of today's children. Instead, it was a country known as Rand McNally Mayberry.

In Rand McNally Mayberry, this is how things were:

Colored and White separate but unequal facilities.
Women couldn't vote. Nor could black men. But, then as now, if they could they would always vote for ugly white women.
Gays could be jailed for having oral or anal sex. So could heterosexuals.
Catholics weren't the only ones forbidden to use birth control. Everyone was.
Only wealthy people flew on commercial airlines.
Television came in two colors on three channels.
TV Dinners took 45 minutes to heat up in the oven. There were no microwaves.
Health Maintenance Organizations hadn't been invented.
Asbestos was a home builder's best friend.
Children greedily licked lead paint off the school hallways and jabbed themselves with pencils that contained real lead.
Dog fighting was not nearly as exciting as cock fighting. Cock fighting did not involve naked men.
No one sent text messages because cell phones hadn't been invented.
Typewriters were slower than computers but a welcome advance over chiseling edicts into stone tablets.
Blacks were dominant in basketball, football, baseball, and track.

Fuck. Scratch that last one. Pretty much the same today.

But the point is, it's OBVIOUS (to any fool with eyes to see) that Rand McNally Mayberry was an idealized world. Trains ran on time. So did buses. Blacks knew their place in each one.

No way would Rand McNally Mayberry have allowed all the degradations and depravations that America seems to be excited about allowing.

So the birthers just need to think of things from the opposite direction. This is what Crazy Eileen (so named by her neighbors even before she took that ziplock-bagged birth certificate to that Delaware town hall meeting a couple weeks ago) was on to when she said “I want my country back.”

Problem is, her country never existed. It was as fake as the nation of “Rand McNally” on a globe. Only existed in Mayberry.

Psst! randypuppy…Mayberry was something you could get on your “boob-tube” if you turned the dial to one of the 3 channels.

Oh My God, that means I wasn't actually born in Tennessee because my Tennessee long form birth certificate says Certification of Live Birth

Nothing has been debunked, all we have is a questionable Hawaiian COLB. Which is all we had a year ago.

Oh, we don't even have “a questionable Hawaiian COLB.” All we have are extremely questionable computer graphic images of what is alleged to have been a COLB secured by Barry Soetoro from the government of the state of Hawaii in 2007.

Literally, of substance there is NOTHING to support Barry's contention that he is a natural born citizen of these United States, and therefore qualified to spend so much as a single night in the presidential bedroom, much less jerking off all over the U.S. Constitution in the Oval Office.

No. All we had a year ago was a Republican President who shuffled awkwardly while waiting for McCain to show up at the White House for the World's Most Awkward ManHug.

Now we have a Democratic President who happens to be black.

Worlds of difference, GrahamCracker.

Thanks for playing though.

What, you're not convinced by “Some guy named Alan?” You skeptics. Keep getting in the way of a good conspiracy theory. It won't be summer blockbuster movie season FOREVER, you know. Then what will you do for entertainment? Very short-sighted.

Stephen Perry is probably a community organizer paid by ACORN to be a dipwad. See birthers can call names too.

I know that your mother is cool with you wearing her panties.

That’s not what I was asking. But it’s, uh, nice…that you felt comfortable sharing your “situation.” Is your favorite book “Flowers in the Attic?”

Never mind. To have a favorite book, you need to have read at least one book.

No. “dipwad” is not a name. “Dipwad” is some stupid shit a racist redneck birther dumbfuck named GrahamCracker just made up because he was thinking about the plug of chewing tobacco in his mouth that was preventing him from thinking clearly about an insulting name.

See, redneck dumbfuck, calling you “GrahamCracker” works on three levels.

One, it's a take-off on your name. Whereas “dipwad” says nothing about me and everything about you, hillybilly onetooth.

Two, it's an actual word. There is such a thing, even outside your redneck circle jerk full of guys who have big faded white rings on the back pocket of their Wranglers from carrying around dip, as a graham cracker. Not so for a “dipwad.”

Third, you're a sweet little faggot (I checked with my gay friends and I'm allowed to say what I want while mocking racist dumbfuck birthers). Like a graham cracker. And, well, obviously, you're a cracker.

Now let's talk about the ACORN thing.

No, let's not. You wouldn't understand the difference between voter fraud and voter registration fraud.

But I will refer anyone who cares over to the “Is This The Source of the Forged Kenyan Birth Certificate” thread, where hockeymomtoo5 just a couple of hours ago posted some very interesting information about GOP henchmen (Young Political Majors) who have been arrested and convicted of VOTER FRAUD for their conduct in the 2008 election.

Of course, GrahamCracker, you've seen hockeymomtoo5's post. You posted IMMEDIATELY above it.

And yet, you learned nothing from it. Because, as I keep telling you birthers, you can't fix stupid. And everything about you is stupid. Even your stupid attempts at calling names.

“I think the best part of you ran down the crack of your momma's ass and ended up as a brown stain on the mattress! I think you been cheated!” — Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann, Full Metal Jacket

Post 3:

“Oh good. That is a very intelligent response. What meds do you take with you Kool Aid bitch? I'll just play by your rules whenever you post. Here we go. Ready? You are stupid, kooky, deranged, delusional and otherwise mentally and emotionally f@cked up and therefore we don't have to listen to you. Like SHUT UP and stuff. There. Happy?” — Randwulf, 3 weeks ago

So what about us non-birther chew-suckin' rednecks? You paint with a pretty broad brush for someone who is indignant over racism.

Anyhow, this is a pretty stupid debate. Obama currently occupies the big chair. Just blow off the dumbasses that can't wrap their heads around that and move on.

I suppose he's expected to pass his birth certificate around the nation for everyone to handle with their greasy paws? Heres a website for you: http://www.stopabductions.com/

Nope. Never asked for. As I've written repeatedly, all that's being asked is that he tenders his birth certificate (or even just that abstract Certification of Live Birth he'd supposedly gotten in 2007, and from which those computer graphic images had allegedly been scanned in June 2008) to a judge or other responsible officer of the court, thence to be conveyed to a panel of trained, experienced, qualified forensic documents examiners to secure their sworn attestations as to the contents, validity, provenance, and overall “genuineness or non-genuineness” of these documents as supporting evidence for Barry Soetoro's claim to be a natural born citizen of these United States.

Doesn't have to go anywhere outside the possession of such court officers and expert witnesses, all of whom are held to standards of confidentiality and responsibility.

I have already said that if your lying “poverty pimp” of a Mombasa Messiah were to show up on my doorstep today and hand me that fucking COLB, I would immediately break out a rape kit, and using the chain of evidence materials intrinsic to that kit I would seal it up and begin documentation of time, date, and events leading up to that item having come into my possession, after which I would seek such an officer of the court and personally convey that document to the possession of the proper authority, documenting in turn that person's identity and the date and time at which said document went from my possession into his.

Clean from out'n your eyes that shit your Obamaphiles wear like a badge of honor, and read what I've already written in these threads.

Ah, I mean no disrespect to gays or chaw fiends. I do paint with a broad brush, but only because Randwulf is a racist.

I have great respect for a lawyer colleague of mine who dips and spits into a Diet Pepsi can in his office. I would hire him to represent me if I was ever sued. I just don't drink out of random soda cans in his office.

It IS a stupid debate. It's not a debate when one side uses facts and the other side uses suspicion borne of a double shot of racism with an ignorance chaser.

I'm about ready to move on to other issues. But randypuppy just cries out and starts talking to himself when left alone, as readers of this thread know all too well.

At the risk of beating a dead horse, I know the difference between certifiCATE and certifiCATION!

There ain't none.

Certificate = the original document filled out by a physician (before the days of electronic transmission of such data) or a certified photocopy of it. My dad got a certified photostat of his 1914 certifiCATE in 1942, for enlistment purposes, I guess. But when he applied for his passport in the 1980s, he got … da-da-da-dah! — a

Certification = some NY State (or NYC) vital records person checked the information in the agency's possession (maybe on computer by then, I'm not sure) and certified his transcript of the information was accurate. The State Department accepted it, because, you know, it TRUSTS that NYS or NYC people are honest, reliable people. Silly State Department — I guess it didn't also check to see that my grandmother was born in Sweden.

Meanwhile, when I applied for my passport in 1999, I got a “certified transcript of birth, State of New York, Department of Health” for my 1956 birth. Same result. The State Dept. didn't care and didn't need the original “long form”, because it LEGALLY REPLACES the original document. And as long as my passport remains valid, it replaces the need for me to submit a birth certificate for most purposes, because other agencies fucking trust the State Department.

So, to make a long story short, legally, certifiCATE = certifiCATION = transcript of birth = COLB. They serve the same purpose. What is so fucking hard to understand about this really simple concept?

You be careful, too. If you’ve been reading my responses to little stevie, you’ll see that I’ve been warning idgy-wookums to curb his potty mouth.

I got an email from Aaron Wiener, Assistant Editor of The Washington Independent, telling me – politely – to rein it back. I observed to him that I hadn’t started the “f-bombs” a-flying, and was merely merrily jumping down into the hole with the enemy and giving him the old sharpened entrenching tool across the chops.

I can out-cuss these clowns just as readily as I can out-think ‘em. Doesn’t take much.

So you’d best cut back on the “pungent language,” too. Methinks that some of the Obamaphiles got as one of their “talking points” in the Messiah Central daily email push to “left-wing bloggers” an admonition to use constitutionalists’ swear words as an excuse to get ‘em thrown off the boards.

Remember that quote I threw up against that lying little lawyer a bit earlier today?

“When the law is against you, argue the facts. When the facts are against you, argue the law. When both are against you, attack the plaintiff.”

Just precisely what little stevie’s been doing, isn’t it? The facts sure as hell aren’t on his side, and when the law is brought in and he can’t “argue the law,” what does he do?

“You’re a racist! Nyah!”

Well, apparently for some people, it IS really “fucking hard to understand”. It is not even a “concept” we are discussing when there is an image of the two different documents sitting side by side for anyone with eyes to see and a brain to comprehend the differences. It is right there in front of you. So what is the problem with people who can't tell the difference? I mean, THERE IT IS in PLAIN SIGHT. What is the question? Look at all the information fields in one that are not on the other. There are none so blind has he who WILL NOT see. You people need to get real. I don't know why we ever got away from the long forms in the first place. Probably because of the inconvenience it causes increasingly lazy, fat and imprecise types of people who tend to become government office workers. I mean, to make a copy of an original birth certificate, they would have to actually get out of their chair and walk all the way to the records vault, look up the file and then carry it all the way to the copy machine and then walk all the way back to the vault and then all the way back to their desk. With the computer generated thing they just sit at their desks eating bon-bons and hit print. The computer does the rest and no calories are burned. Its great!

The question at hand is not “What's legal to get a passport with?” The question is “Where exactly was this guy born”. Only a long form will show that. And, I think that short form is a forgery anyway. SOMETHING stinks here.

So, yeah, let's keep beating this dead horse until Obama does the right thing and decides to actually be “transparent” instead of just blowing hard about it. He has been the least transparent person to ever sit in the White House. It will be his undoing.

Randy, you ever done any scientific research online?

When a scientific paper is published as an article in a journal, there's generally a kind of summary put together at the beginning – from 250 to 300 words, and almost always laid out in a couple of standard formats, depending on the journal's guidelines.

This is called an “abstract.” When you go online to the National Library of Medicine's PubMed Web site, on every indexed journal's articles, you can always get authors' names, the titles and keywords of these articles, and – if there is one (because editorials and letters and such aren't abstracted) the abstract of the article if not the whole content of the article itself.

Abstracts are devised to provide a quick “eyeblink” look at what the article is about. A lot ot times when a doctor is reading through JAMA or The New England Journal of Medicine, just about the only thing he really reads of each article is the abstract. If it looks worthwhile to him, he'll read the rest of the article, but usually a glance at the abstract tells him whether or not it's really new stuff, or significant stuff, or even relevant to his patient management needs.

Okay, so the certification of live birth type of document is what's called an “abstract.” It's not the full birth certificate. It was devised in the days when these things had to be typed out by hand, so that the bare minimum of information could be recorded on checksafe type paper without as much opportunity for errors (which can't be corrected, meaning one typo and the whole damned thing had to be re-typed from scratch on another sheet of checksafe paper).

Now – as you observe – we've got computer printers to crank 'em out. But the abstract (“certification”) form still survives. Doesn't need to, of course. Takes just as much time and effort to create a real birth certificate as it does to whack out an abstract.

So why the hell did Barry just get (what he claims to be) an abstract from the state of Hawaii, anyway? That was all the Hawaii state government was providing in 2007?

Well, no. In 2007, remember, the government of the state of Hawaii explicitly required the full birth certificate from non-haole (native Polynesian) citizens in order for these people to secure the various special benefits accorded these native Polynesians by Hawaii statute law. A Hawaiian of native Polynesian stock who came in with a Certification of Live Birth was told, “sorry, but we gotta see your long-form birth certificate; you can get it easy from the Vital Statistics guys.”

And so – in 2007 and 2008 – that's precisely what a native-born Polynesian living in Hawaii could and did do.

Meaning so could Barry.

So why didn't he?

And if he has “long-form” information on file in Hawaii, why hasn't he given permission to open those state government files to the scrutiny of an officer of the court?

Is Barry being “transparent”? Nope. Looks Cook County machine politician opaque and secretive and criminally guilty as all hell to me.

I like the “sharpened entrenching tool” thing. I actually have a few in my collection. Yes, I have tried to just stay somewhat civil and on topic but what can I say? With Steve there is no other way to respond other than by using “pungent language”. He leaves you with no alternative since he would rather use personal attacks instead of answers to fact. No worries mate. The truth will out!

I agree and have always leaned toward that conclusion and for all the above mentioned reasons. Be careful Tuci. You will incur the wrath of the all-knowing Steviemonkey with all of these factual observations. Keep up the good work!!! Fun! Aint it!

Oh, there are plenty of alternatives to “pungent language” when dealing with our lying little lawyer. The pitiful goofus has so many hot buttons begging to be pushed I feel sometimes as if I’d sat down to a sort of Wurlitzer of socialist angst.

Twiddle a key here, tread a peddle there, a nice little arpeggio of vitriolic grace notes at this point…

And he howls so nicely, don’t he?

And one sharpens one’s entrenching tools to make it easier to dig, don’tcha know? Heaven forfend I might do anything contrary to the Geneva Convention and little stevie’s Tranzi laws of international conflict.

So, when will she be disbarred?

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