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		<title>By: Tuci78</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuci78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah. It&#039;s Barry&#039;s responsibility to respond to the question, and provide proof positive that he &lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;was&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt; grunted out by his Mom somewhere in these United States, and therefore qualifies as a &quot;natural born citizen&quot; to occupy the office of the President of these United States (much less to have run in any of the National Socialist [formerly &quot;Democrat&quot;] Party primaries last year, each of which he entered by signing right beneath an attestation that he &lt;u&gt;was&lt;/u&gt; &quot;a natural born citizen&quot; of this nation).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barry&#039;s made all sorts of claims to be &quot;natural born.&quot;  Now all he&#039;s gotta do is prove it by showing a judge his real, print-on-paper birth certificate.  Or whatever in hell he supposedly had scanned to create those fucked-up images in June 2008, at least.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So far, Barry&#039;s presented no credible evidence.  So fuck off and &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;die&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, why don&#039;tcha?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah. It&#39;s Barry&#39;s responsibility to respond to the question, and provide proof positive that he <b><u>was</u></b> grunted out by his Mom somewhere in these United States, and therefore qualifies as a &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; to occupy the office of the President of these United States (much less to have run in any of the National Socialist [formerly "Democrat"] Party primaries last year, each of which he entered by signing right beneath an attestation that he <u>was</u> &#8220;a natural born citizen&#8221; of this nation).</p>
<p>Barry&#39;s made all sorts of claims to be &#8220;natural born.&#8221;  Now all he&#39;s gotta do is prove it by showing a judge his real, print-on-paper birth certificate.  Or whatever in hell he supposedly had scanned to create those fucked-up images in June 2008, at least.</p>
<p>So far, Barry&#39;s presented no credible evidence.  So fuck off and <b><i>die</i></b>, why don&#39;tcha?</p>
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		<title>By: talkischeap</title>
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		<dc:creator>talkischeap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the story emerging about Oily Taints involvement as an informant for the KGB is fascinating. Perhaps her misguided efforts are part of some attempt to remedy the demons from her past.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But ratting out your neighbors to the Soviets cannot be undone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the story emerging about Oily Taints involvement as an informant for the KGB is fascinating. Perhaps her misguided efforts are part of some attempt to remedy the demons from her past.</p>
<p>But ratting out your neighbors to the Soviets cannot be undone.</p>
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		<title>By: talkischeap</title>
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		<dc:creator>talkischeap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this Steve: NO! It is your responsibility to prove Barack Obama is not eligible. No one has come even close to presenting credible evidence, so fuck off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this Steve: NO! It is your responsibility to prove Barack Obama is not eligible. No one has come even close to presenting credible evidence, so fuck off!</p>
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		<title>By: talkischeap</title>
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		<dc:creator>talkischeap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Little Oily Taint and her deluded minions will never give up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little Oily Taint and her deluded minions will never give up.</p>
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		<title>By: mantis</title>
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		<dc:creator>mantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tuci, you loveable little Paulbot moron, an opinion column in a web-only college newspaper is the best you can come up with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuci, you loveable little Paulbot moron, an opinion column in a web-only college newspaper is the best you can come up with?</p>
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		<title>By: Tuci78</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuci78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s getting out in the drive-by media now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From &lt;a href=&quot;http://nebraska.statepaper.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2009/08/05/4a79c4716da39&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David Hahn&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;Publisher &lt;a href=&quot;http://StatePaper.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;StatePaper.com&lt;/a&gt; &quot; August 5, 2009.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Publisher: Obama Should Produce Original Birth Certificate&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;At &lt;a href=&quot;http://StatePaper.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;StatePaper.com&lt;/a&gt;, we know by making this statement we will be instantly tagged as &quot;racist,&quot; &quot;birther,&quot; or other pejorative terms by those who defend the President of the United States. We often defend the President and the job he is doing and are regularly lambasted for being &quot;too liberal&quot; or an &quot;Obama lover&quot; by some of our most prolific critics.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, here is the issue:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of our country. Article II of the Constitution requires the President to be a natural born citizen. Without reciting them here, there appears to be some serious questions raised about whether President Obama was born in the United States or Kenya. We have not checked sources, but there are reports that some witnessed his birth in Kenya.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The President&#039;s campaign staff and then his administration have released and placed on the internet a &quot;Certificate of Live Birth.&quot; We do not dispute the validity or correctness of that document as others have tried to do, suggesting the use of computers to alter seals and names. By releasing this document the President agrees that the claims about his status as a natural born citizen is an open, important, public issue.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, this &quot;Certificate of Live Birth&quot; is simply not the best evidence that the President and his administration could offer to lay to rest any doubt about his status as a natural born citizen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barack Obama is a lawyer and a graduate of Harvard Law School. All law students study the body of law we call &quot;Evidence.&quot; One of the core tenets of American law is the &quot;best evidence rule&quot; which requires the production of original, or certified copies, of original document to prove a fact. Abstracts and summaries are not original documents.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The President has offered an abstract (Certificate) of his birth, but not an original birth certificate which would be the best evidence of his birth. We need the best evidence so that it can do what the best evidence is meant to do; dispel the doubts about a fact. We need to see the Birth Certificate. That&#039;s the one that is often handwritten and signed by the doctor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lawyers and legal thinkers will, obviously, argue the finer points of the &quot;Best Evidence Rule&quot; and its applicability to this matter. But, that misses the point. The notion of &quot;Best Evidence&quot; is solidly-grounded in law. This is an important public matter and it seems now that the President has started down the path of offering some evidence (Certificate of Live Birth), he should offer the &quot;best evidence&quot; (Original Birth Certificate) which is the source document for his birth. The document behind the document which has been released. This is what is needed now in the court of public knowledge.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The fact in question here is the constitutional qualification of the President of the United States to hold office. With a simple nod, the President could offer the American people the best evidence, the source document(s), as he learned about at Harvard, and dispel those who question his birth as a natural born citizen. His failure to provide this best evidence, when it could be so easily done, raises only more questions, which fuels an ugly public debate.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess there are some things that not even a journalism school graduate can stomach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#39;s getting out in the drive-by media now.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://nebraska.statepaper.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2009/08/05/4a79c4716da39" rel="nofollow">David Hahn</a>, &#8220;Publisher <a href="http://StatePaper.com" rel="nofollow">StatePaper.com</a> &#8221; August 5, 2009.</p>
<p><b>Publisher: Obama Should Produce Original Birth Certificate</b></p>
<p><i>At <a href="http://StatePaper.com" rel="nofollow">StatePaper.com</a>, we know by making this statement we will be instantly tagged as &#8220;racist,&#8221; &#8220;birther,&#8221; or other pejorative terms by those who defend the President of the United States. We often defend the President and the job he is doing and are regularly lambasted for being &#8220;too liberal&#8221; or an &#8220;Obama lover&#8221; by some of our most prolific critics.</p>
<p>But, here is the issue:</p>
<p>The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of our country. Article II of the Constitution requires the President to be a natural born citizen. Without reciting them here, there appears to be some serious questions raised about whether President Obama was born in the United States or Kenya. We have not checked sources, but there are reports that some witnessed his birth in Kenya.</p>
<p>The President&#39;s campaign staff and then his administration have released and placed on the internet a &#8220;Certificate of Live Birth.&#8221; We do not dispute the validity or correctness of that document as others have tried to do, suggesting the use of computers to alter seals and names. By releasing this document the President agrees that the claims about his status as a natural born citizen is an open, important, public issue.</p>
<p>But, this &#8220;Certificate of Live Birth&#8221; is simply not the best evidence that the President and his administration could offer to lay to rest any doubt about his status as a natural born citizen.</p>
<p>Barack Obama is a lawyer and a graduate of Harvard Law School. All law students study the body of law we call &#8220;Evidence.&#8221; One of the core tenets of American law is the &#8220;best evidence rule&#8221; which requires the production of original, or certified copies, of original document to prove a fact. Abstracts and summaries are not original documents.</p>
<p>The President has offered an abstract (Certificate) of his birth, but not an original birth certificate which would be the best evidence of his birth. We need the best evidence so that it can do what the best evidence is meant to do; dispel the doubts about a fact. We need to see the Birth Certificate. That&#39;s the one that is often handwritten and signed by the doctor.</p>
<p>Lawyers and legal thinkers will, obviously, argue the finer points of the &#8220;Best Evidence Rule&#8221; and its applicability to this matter. But, that misses the point. The notion of &#8220;Best Evidence&#8221; is solidly-grounded in law. This is an important public matter and it seems now that the President has started down the path of offering some evidence (Certificate of Live Birth), he should offer the &#8220;best evidence&#8221; (Original Birth Certificate) which is the source document for his birth. The document behind the document which has been released. This is what is needed now in the court of public knowledge.</p>
<p>The fact in question here is the constitutional qualification of the President of the United States to hold office. With a simple nod, the President could offer the American people the best evidence, the source document(s), as he learned about at Harvard, and dispel those who question his birth as a natural born citizen. His failure to provide this best evidence, when it could be so easily done, raises only more questions, which fuels an ugly public debate.</i></p>
<p>I guess there are some things that not even a journalism school graduate can stomach.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuci78</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuci78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh? It has been &quot;verified&quot; how, x-putz?  By the journalism-school graduates on the Annenberg Foundation payroll at FactChect?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These are competent, experienced, qualified forensic documents examiners?  They have sworn under oath attestations as to their opinions of that &quot;printed on paper&quot; document they claimed to have passed reverently from hand to hand, chanting and &lt;i&gt;dovening&lt;/I&gt; and murmuring &quot;Praise be unto Allah, the merciful, the compassionate, but this is the manifest of our Mahdi&#039;s earthly birth, and therefore a relic of his holiness!&quot; before taking pictures of each other and posting &#039;em online?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nah!  No such thing, x-pud.  Such a &quot;document&quot; - if it ever existed - hasn&#039;t so much as wafted within a mile of such an objective, impartial, qualified-to-testify-as-an-expert-witness type of person.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So we&#039;re back to &quot;the image of the thing is not the thing itself&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and, of course, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;What is that lying, posturing, weaseling, shifty sad sack of shit HIDING, anyway?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Got that yet?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh? It has been &#8220;verified&#8221; how, x-putz?  By the journalism-school graduates on the Annenberg Foundation payroll at FactChect?</p>
<p>These are competent, experienced, qualified forensic documents examiners?  They have sworn under oath attestations as to their opinions of that &#8220;printed on paper&#8221; document they claimed to have passed reverently from hand to hand, chanting and <i>dovening</i> and murmuring &#8220;Praise be unto Allah, the merciful, the compassionate, but this is the manifest of our Mahdi&#39;s earthly birth, and therefore a relic of his holiness!&#8221; before taking pictures of each other and posting &#39;em online?</p>
<p>Nah!  No such thing, x-pud.  Such a &#8220;document&#8221; &#8211; if it ever existed &#8211; hasn&#39;t so much as wafted within a mile of such an objective, impartial, qualified-to-testify-as-an-expert-witness type of person.  </p>
<p>So we&#39;re back to &#8220;the image of the thing is not the thing itself&#8221;</p>
<p>and, of course, </p>
<p><b><i>What is that lying, posturing, weaseling, shifty sad sack of shit HIDING, anyway?</i></b></p>
<p>Got that yet?</p>
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		<title>By: xcott</title>
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		<dc:creator>xcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The COLB issued by the state of Hawaii has been verified as (a) real, (b) printed on paper, (c) stamped and (d) signed.  It clearly states the prez was born in Honolulu, and according to the Hawaiian government it is a valid birth certificate for all legal purposes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is no way around this fact.  Except, I suppose, to pretend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The COLB issued by the state of Hawaii has been verified as (a) real, (b) printed on paper, (c) stamped and (d) signed.  It clearly states the prez was born in Honolulu, and according to the Hawaiian government it is a valid birth certificate for all legal purposes.</p>
<p>There is no way around this fact.  Except, I suppose, to pretend.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuci78</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuci78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah. &quot;Uppity&quot; is the opposite of &quot;sneaky.&quot;  Barry&#039;s a &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;sneaky&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; sonofabitch.  &quot;Uppity&quot; is more like Tom Sowell or Walter Williams. Y&#039;know, the kind of black guys who walk right to hellangone off the &quot;Liberals&#039;&quot; plantation before God and everybody, and tell you porkers to shove it up your distalmost sphincters.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Uppity&quot; I like.  Barry... Not so much.  Besides, if it weren&#039;t for his father being mostly Sand Nazi (y&#039;know - Arabic? - like the people who sold most of America&#039;s black folks&#039; ancestors to the &quot;blackbirders&quot; who then hauled them across the Atlantic to the auction blocks of Charleston and Savannah?), Barry Soetoro would be what everybody in my &quot;politically incorrect&quot; childhood (including black people) called a mulatto.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As it is he&#039;s half socialist white (and raised &quot;Whiter than sour cream&quot;), half failed alcoholic polygamist corrupt Kenyan bureaucrat.  I don&#039;t think there&#039;s a specific term you can assign to that kinda fella, except maybe &quot;sorry sad sack of shit.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And Cheetos don&#039;t work with salsa, sani.  &lt;i&gt;Doritos! Ehe!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah. &#8220;Uppity&#8221; is the opposite of &#8220;sneaky.&#8221;  Barry&#39;s a <b><i>sneaky</i></b> sonofabitch.  &#8220;Uppity&#8221; is more like Tom Sowell or Walter Williams. Y&#39;know, the kind of black guys who walk right to hellangone off the &#8220;Liberals&#39;&#8221; plantation before God and everybody, and tell you porkers to shove it up your distalmost sphincters.</p>
<p>&#8220;Uppity&#8221; I like.  Barry&#8230; Not so much.  Besides, if it weren&#39;t for his father being mostly Sand Nazi (y&#39;know &#8211; Arabic? &#8211; like the people who sold most of America&#39;s black folks&#39; ancestors to the &#8220;blackbirders&#8221; who then hauled them across the Atlantic to the auction blocks of Charleston and Savannah?), Barry Soetoro would be what everybody in my &#8220;politically incorrect&#8221; childhood (including black people) called a mulatto.</p>
<p>As it is he&#39;s half socialist white (and raised &#8220;Whiter than sour cream&#8221;), half failed alcoholic polygamist corrupt Kenyan bureaucrat.  I don&#39;t think there&#39;s a specific term you can assign to that kinda fella, except maybe &#8220;sorry sad sack of shit.&#8221;</p>
<p>And Cheetos don&#39;t work with salsa, sani.  <i>Doritos! Ehe!</i></p>
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		<title>By: thesheriffsani</title>
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		<dc:creator>thesheriffsani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psst, Jim?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;This is the official text of legislation as printed and published by the Government Printer, Nairobi, in 1967.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for playing, but the uppity negro is still your President.  Next!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psst, Jim?</p>
<p><b>This is the official text of legislation as printed and published by the Government Printer, Nairobi, in 1967.</b></p>
<p>Thanks for playing, but the uppity negro is still your President.  Next!</p>
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