Rage, Rage Against the Dying of the Light
Tuesday, August 04, 2009 at 12:44 pm
It’s been a bad 24 hours for the “birthers,” but that hasn’t slowed down the monster FreeRepublic.com thread on the forged “Kenyan birth certificate.” Jemian cracks the code:
I was thinking today that the Aussie doc might be the fake one. THEN, I read the story about Hillary going to Kenya.
Hmmm, thought I. Why would she be going to Kenya if that were a fake BC?
Watch the opposition. They often give away the game.
“Peter Horry” wonders if the Clintons will go back to their old murderous ways.
Orly Taitz seems to be very close to the truth, or she is the flake that some people claim. I find it very interesting that Hillary Clinton has been placed in the middle of this, wonder why.
It won’t be long now, If Taitz fails it will be very difficult for her, or anyone else to pick up the pieces….. assume “crash positions”
“Natural Born 54″ delves into the brand-new (really, it’s about 15 hours old) science of “debunking” David Bomford’s birth certificate.
Noticed something even more obvious by zooming in an image program. Looked at the lines, especially the horizontal lines. They pass over the creases with no distortion at all – dead straight. No way they look right to me. They also just don’t look right period. The horizontal lines don’t cross over or under the vertical ones, they stop at the vertical line without touching it (not always but mostly) and then continue on the other side of the vertical line in a slightly different horizontal alignment.
But I don’t go into FR threads for this sort of thing. “Birthers” have been wary of accepting a bogus document that would discredit their movement, so people like “Vera Lex” end up finding new problems with the “Kenyan birth certificate.”
The biggest problem with the Kenyan document is the ‘4s. 6d.’ (4 shillings and 6 pence) in the top left-hand corner. However, as a discussion on the other thread pointed out, Kenya uses (and used) cents not pence. Unless there is an explanation for this then, regardless of the status of the Bomford certificate, the Kenyan document must be a forgery and remains ‘out of action’.
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28 Comments
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 5:35 pm
Ah, the Hillary conspiracy within a conspiracy. If nothing else, the birthers are amazing in their reinvention and their ability to bounce with the punches.
Any person with even a modicum of intelligence would know the “Kenyan BC” was fake without even having to try to debunk it.
It really must be scary to have a BLACK man in the WHITE house.
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 5:36 pm
Ah, the Hillary conspiracy within a conspiracy. If nothing else, the birthers are amazing in their reinvention and their ability to bounce with the punches.
Any person with even a modicum of intelligence would know the “Kenyan BC” was fake without even having to try to debunk it.
It really must be scary to have a BLACK man in the WHITE house.
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 5:36 pm
Ah, the Hillary conspiracy within a conspiracy. If nothing else, the birthers are amazing in their reinvention and their ability to bounce with the punches.
Any person with even a modicum of intelligence would know the “Kenyan BC” was fake without even having to try to debunk it.
It really must be scary to have a BLACK man in the WHITE house.
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 5:36 pm
Ah, the Hillary conspiracy within a conspiracy. If nothing else, the birthers are amazing in their reinvention and their ability to bounce with the punches.
Any person with even a modicum of intelligence would know the “Kenyan BC” was fake without even having to try to debunk it.
It really must be scary to have a BLACK man in the WHITE house.
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 5:37 pm
Ah, the Hillary conspiracy within a conspiracy. If nothing else, the birthers are amazing in their reinvention and their ability to bounce with the punches.
Any person with even a modicum of intelligence would know the “Kenyan BC” was fake without even having to try to debunk it.
It really must be scary to have a BLACK man in the WHITE house.
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 5:37 pm
And so it goes… as it has for the past year over and over. The thrill of victory almost immediately followed by the agony of defeat.
Rinse, repeat.
What's their next act?
Why is Orly Taitz in Israel during this “Constitutional Crisis of Biblical Proportions”? Is she getting updated orders from her handlers?
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 5:41 pm
I'm amazed by the prescient powers of the Kenyan newspapers, which reported almost two weeks ago that Hillary would be visiting there the first week in August. Wait! It's part of the conspiracy! I mean – THEY're part of the conspiracy. That's how they knew.
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 6:05 pm
It's no surprise that Hillary Clinton is in Kenya today to reinforce the cover-up.
I don't trust ANY politician and almost no one in the media. I still want answers. Obummer, put up or get out!!!! All he has to do is make the following official public statement,
“I Barack Obama authorize the State of Hawaii to release and make public all of my records on file.”
That's it. Issue over. But he won't because he's a fraud!! Obama knows that millions of citizens want to see it yet he continues to hide it. What/why is he hiding? and most disturbingly, why don't BHO's supporters want to know the whole truth, especially since there's a reward of $100,000 for proof that Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States.
OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND YOUR OTHER RECORDS!!!!!
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 6:06 pm
It's no surprise that Hillary Clinton is in Kenya today to reinforce the cover-up.
The conspiracy deepens (it always does)!
I don't trust ANY politician and almost no one in the media. I still want answers.
You would never believe anything except whatever nutter conspiracy theories support your deranged delusions. So why should anyone even try to convince you?
All he has to do is make the following official public statement,
“I Barack Obama authorize the State of Hawaii to release and make public all of my records on file.”
Why should the president submit to the irrational demands of crazy people? That would be a mistake. Ignoring your dumb asses is the right move.
That's it. Issue over.
The issue will never be over for you nutballs. No amount of evidence will ever convince you. There's no point in trying.
But he won't because he's a fraud!! Obama knows that millions of citizens want to see it yet he continues to hide it. What/why is he hiding? and most disturbingly, why don't BHO's supporters want to know the whole truth, especially since there's a reward of $100,000 for proof that Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States.
We already know the truth. Barack Obama is president and you are a crazy ass birther.
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 7:55 pm
I think it may have to do birther swarm invading the place. A link to freeperville is the electronic version of leaving carrion lying about.
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 9:29 pm
Now the argument that there was no Republic of Kenya until December 12, 1964 has been debunked by something found on the UNHCR website:
Title Kenya Citizenship Act, Cap 170
Publisher National Legislative Bodies
Country Kenya
Publication Date 12 December 1963
Citation / Document Symbol Cap 170
Reference KEN-125
Cite as Kenya Citizenship Act, Cap 170 [Kenya], Cap 170, 12 December 1963, available at: http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/docid/3ae6b4ef3c…. [accessed 4 August 2009]
OATH OF ALLEGIANCE
I………………………………do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to the Republic of Kenya and that I will support and uphold the Constitution of Kenya as by law established.
SO HELP ME GOD
——–
That was published 12 December 1963, and specifically says “Republic of Kenya”
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 9:30 pm
You might want to check your facts Mr. Sam Sewell. The Department of State announced and scheduled SoS Clinton's trip on 30 July, before Dr. Orly posted the forged “kenyan” BC to the courts.
And besides which, on your blog, the “Steady Drip”, you confirmed it was a forgery. If it's a forgery, no coverup in Kenya needed. Think you can get your facts straight between your sockpuppets??
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 9:35 pm
captainsteve, word on the street among the socialists is that Hillary has your IP # and knows your where you live.
just a heads up bro, if I were you I would quit my job and sell everything and hide out in Alaska if you dont want to be another Vince Foster.
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 1:12 am
Nah. Groping as usual, Mr. Weigel? Jeez, your bosses at The Independent must be standing behind you with a horsewhip, just working your sorry ass.
“Find more to ridicule them with! Remember Alinsky's Fifth Rule! More! More!”
Jeez, we get it. But your Mombasa Messiah still hasn't put up a real, print-on-paper, stamped and signed and unaltered legal document of any kind supporting his multiple attestations (which he signed for every state in which he entered his “Barack Hussein Obama II” alias last year) that he's a natural born citizen.
And repeating that observation that just chaps your bosses' fat asses, don't it?
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 3:26 am
Not as much as it must chap your ass that the uppity negro refuses to dance to your request or that the its now August and the liberals are still in power!
Never fear, test-taker, there's always comfort in the next bag of Cheetos.
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 3:27 am
Psst, Jim?
This is the official text of legislation as printed and published by the Government Printer, Nairobi, in 1967.
Thanks for playing, but the uppity negro is still your President. Next!
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 3:40 am
Nah. “Uppity” is the opposite of “sneaky.” Barry's a sneaky sonofabitch. “Uppity” is more like Tom Sowell or Walter Williams. Y'know, the kind of black guys who walk right to hellangone off the “Liberals'” plantation before God and everybody, and tell you porkers to shove it up your distalmost sphincters.
“Uppity” I like. Barry… Not so much. Besides, if it weren't for his father being mostly Sand Nazi (y'know – Arabic? – like the people who sold most of America's black folks' ancestors to the “blackbirders” who then hauled them across the Atlantic to the auction blocks of Charleston and Savannah?), Barry Soetoro would be what everybody in my “politically incorrect” childhood (including black people) called a mulatto.
As it is he's half socialist white (and raised “Whiter than sour cream”), half failed alcoholic polygamist corrupt Kenyan bureaucrat. I don't think there's a specific term you can assign to that kinda fella, except maybe “sorry sad sack of shit.”
And Cheetos don't work with salsa, sani. Doritos! Ehe!
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 10:19 pm
The COLB issued by the state of Hawaii has been verified as (a) real, (b) printed on paper, (c) stamped and (d) signed. It clearly states the prez was born in Honolulu, and according to the Hawaiian government it is a valid birth certificate for all legal purposes.
There is no way around this fact. Except, I suppose, to pretend.
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 1:36 am
Oh? It has been “verified” how, x-putz? By the journalism-school graduates on the Annenberg Foundation payroll at FactChect?
These are competent, experienced, qualified forensic documents examiners? They have sworn under oath attestations as to their opinions of that “printed on paper” document they claimed to have passed reverently from hand to hand, chanting and dovening and murmuring “Praise be unto Allah, the merciful, the compassionate, but this is the manifest of our Mahdi's earthly birth, and therefore a relic of his holiness!” before taking pictures of each other and posting 'em online?
Nah! No such thing, x-pud. Such a “document” – if it ever existed – hasn't so much as wafted within a mile of such an objective, impartial, qualified-to-testify-as-an-expert-witness type of person.
So we're back to “the image of the thing is not the thing itself”
and, of course,
What is that lying, posturing, weaseling, shifty sad sack of shit HIDING, anyway?
Got that yet?
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 11:20 am
Well, it's getting out in the drive-by media now.
From David Hahn, “Publisher StatePaper.com ” August 5, 2009.
Publisher: Obama Should Produce Original Birth Certificate
At StatePaper.com, we know by making this statement we will be instantly tagged as “racist,” “birther,” or other pejorative terms by those who defend the President of the United States. We often defend the President and the job he is doing and are regularly lambasted for being “too liberal” or an “Obama lover” by some of our most prolific critics.
But, here is the issue:
The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of our country. Article II of the Constitution requires the President to be a natural born citizen. Without reciting them here, there appears to be some serious questions raised about whether President Obama was born in the United States or Kenya. We have not checked sources, but there are reports that some witnessed his birth in Kenya.
The President's campaign staff and then his administration have released and placed on the internet a “Certificate of Live Birth.” We do not dispute the validity or correctness of that document as others have tried to do, suggesting the use of computers to alter seals and names. By releasing this document the President agrees that the claims about his status as a natural born citizen is an open, important, public issue.
But, this “Certificate of Live Birth” is simply not the best evidence that the President and his administration could offer to lay to rest any doubt about his status as a natural born citizen.
Barack Obama is a lawyer and a graduate of Harvard Law School. All law students study the body of law we call “Evidence.” One of the core tenets of American law is the “best evidence rule” which requires the production of original, or certified copies, of original document to prove a fact. Abstracts and summaries are not original documents.
The President has offered an abstract (Certificate) of his birth, but not an original birth certificate which would be the best evidence of his birth. We need the best evidence so that it can do what the best evidence is meant to do; dispel the doubts about a fact. We need to see the Birth Certificate. That's the one that is often handwritten and signed by the doctor.
Lawyers and legal thinkers will, obviously, argue the finer points of the “Best Evidence Rule” and its applicability to this matter. But, that misses the point. The notion of “Best Evidence” is solidly-grounded in law. This is an important public matter and it seems now that the President has started down the path of offering some evidence (Certificate of Live Birth), he should offer the “best evidence” (Original Birth Certificate) which is the source document for his birth. The document behind the document which has been released. This is what is needed now in the court of public knowledge.
The fact in question here is the constitutional qualification of the President of the United States to hold office. With a simple nod, the President could offer the American people the best evidence, the source document(s), as he learned about at Harvard, and dispel those who question his birth as a natural born citizen. His failure to provide this best evidence, when it could be so easily done, raises only more questions, which fuels an ugly public debate.
I guess there are some things that not even a journalism school graduate can stomach.
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 6:24 pm
Tuci, you loveable little Paulbot moron, an opinion column in a web-only college newspaper is the best you can come up with?
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 6:25 pm
Little Oily Taint and her deluded minions will never give up.
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 6:28 pm
How about this Steve: NO! It is your responsibility to prove Barack Obama is not eligible. No one has come even close to presenting credible evidence, so fuck off!
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 8:17 pm
I think the story emerging about Oily Taints involvement as an informant for the KGB is fascinating. Perhaps her misguided efforts are part of some attempt to remedy the demons from her past.
But ratting out your neighbors to the Soviets cannot be undone.
Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 3:19 am
Nah. It's Barry's responsibility to respond to the question, and provide proof positive that he was grunted out by his Mom somewhere in these United States, and therefore qualifies as a “natural born citizen” to occupy the office of the President of these United States (much less to have run in any of the National Socialist [formerly "Democrat"] Party primaries last year, each of which he entered by signing right beneath an attestation that he was “a natural born citizen” of this nation).
Barry's made all sorts of claims to be “natural born.” Now all he's gotta do is prove it by showing a judge his real, print-on-paper birth certificate. Or whatever in hell he supposedly had scanned to create those fucked-up images in June 2008, at least.
So far, Barry's presented no credible evidence. So fuck off and die, why don'tcha?
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