David Bomford Talks About the Forgers Who Used His Birth Certificate to Smear Obama

The Great Usurper is an illegal-immigrant & was a natural-born citizen-subject of Great Britain. Of course that was before he was adopted as Barry Soetoro in Indonesia where all his childhood memories exist before age ten. that was when he went to visit the Dunhams in Hawaii on an Indonesian passport & then stayed thru high school.

I'm confused David...what exactly in your article proves (or links to proof) that the certificate was "forged" or that it was based on a copy of Mr. Bomford's?

Please don't be daft. It's way too late for that. Just read the "Is This the Source of the Forged Kenyan Birth Certificate?" article at this thread.

Or just step outside the cave you've been living in for the past three weeks with your fingers in your ears and your eyes shut. How in the world did you miss the news stories proving that the Kenyan birf sirtifikat was forged?

Disingenuous birther.

It's not that the physical "certificate" (the COLB supposedly received by Barry Soetoro in 2007 from the government of the state of Hawaii) had been "forged" but rather that the computer graphic images allegedly generated by scanning that COLB had been altered in Adobe Photoshop to change the information that such a COLB might present so as to support Barry's false contention that he had been born in Honolulu instead of his native Mombasa.

The "certificate" itself has not left the physical possession of Barry Soetoro and his political partisans to be examined by either hostile or objective observers qualified to speak to that document's "genuineness or non-genuineness" as forensic evidence regarding this socialist sonofabitch's qualification to malignantly exercise the powers of the presidency in the destruction of the American economy.

The "birther" contention is that the physical document should be surrendered and submitted to detailed expert examination.

Barry Soetoro has been resisting this for more than 13 months, and this "birther" fact - his stubborn, desperate resistance - is an indisputable reality which none of the Obamaphiles on this board have been wiling seriously to confront.

Tuce, why must you continue to lie? It has been examined by WND, not exactly an Obama supporter, and found to be a true, legal document...

"A separate WND investigation into Obama's certification of live birth utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageI...

So, he has shown a legal document that even satisfied an anti-Obama site...that, I might add, is still trying to keep this alive for 1 reason...money! They hope idiots like you keep donating and keep this alive, maybe they'll even get nuts like you to donate enough to buy themselves a mansion. So, now you lie, make things up, and cannot even get a single fact straight. Is it any wonder that people think of you as a nut?

Jim, why the hell do you Obamaphile assholes continue to harp on Mr. Zahn's article?

First, there is no "lie" in what I'd posted above.

Second, at the time Mr. Zahn had written that article for WorldNetDaily, he was not discussing the physical document - which has yet to be examined by anyone outside the self-dealing circle of Barry Soetoro's most fanatical supporters - but rather their best estimate of the computer graphic images at the time he'd written that article.

Third, I "took it to email" with Mr. Zahn himself, and got the following response (July 27, 2009), which I give you in toto:

Thank you for your effort to understand and critically think about this issue.

First, there is no link to the investigation results, because the investigation that was done was merely into several of the claims being made at the time offering "proof" the document was a forgery. As the second sentence clarifies, many of those alleged "proofs" of forgery were not proofs at all.

You are correct in that we have never seen nor examined the actual paper document. The first sentence of the quoted paragraph, admittedly, is worded poorly, and out of context, does seem to imply something it was never intended to imply. I'm sure you can understand, however, that for us to go back and correct the wording – at this point, after it has been referenced so many times – would look unscrupulous on our part, as if we were "covering our tracks."

The word "found" is the problem. Another of our reporters actually added that to the story, but I've been compelled to explain it ever since.

A better wording of the paragraph is, and should have been:

"A separate WND investigation into Obama's online image of his certification of live birth found that several forgery experts saw no evidence to doubt the document's authenticity. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there."

At this point, we still have no concrete or undisputable proof that the online image is fraudulent. We have reported on some who think so, but as we're reporters, not forgery experts, all we can do is report on the disagreement that exists between the experts.

Regardless, I hope you will look into our stories to understand, even if the COLB is perfectly legitimate, it's a red herring argument. There are still reasons for Obama to release his long-form birth certificate, and still legitimate questions surrounding his eligibility. The COLB, even if legit, is not adequate to demonstrate natural born citizenship.

Drew Zahn,
News editor, WorldNetDaily

(( Boldface font is used above to denote that section of the email message in which Mr. Zahn used a different font color for emphasis. ))

The point yet again is that Barry Soetoro has not once ever "shown a legal document" - and the word to emphasize is document, as in print upon paper, signed, stamped, sealed, and otherwise incorporating protections to make alterations or other fraudulence difficult (if not impossible) to pass expert scrutiny - to any objective (or, hell, hostile) examiner looking to test that document's validity, integrity, provenance, "genuineness or non-genuineness" as a supportive bona fides of that lying, lousy Cook County machine "poverty pimp" socialist sonofabitch Barry Soetoro's claim that he qualifies as a natural born citizen of these United States to occupy the office of the presidency.

Noise about how the confidentiality and security of the doctors or nurses who had supposedly delivered Stanley Ann Dunham of her unwanted burden in 1961 is bullshit, for it is not necessary that Barry Soetoro's "long-form" information be made wholly public. Officers of a court of law - including by extension qualified expert witnesses as to the character of forensic documents and other evidentiary materials - can look into such materials without releasing any secondary details not pertinent to the "genuineness or non-genuineness" of such supporting information or documents, and Barry Soetoro (and all his little ACORN elves and Obamaphile assholes) know this.

The physical document - not computer graphic images, but the document itself from which those images were allegedly scanned - on a judge's bench and thence under the evaluation of competent forensic documents examiners.

That's what your Mombasa Messiah has been evading, and that's no fucking "lie" at all.

Tuce, Tuce, Tuce, everyone's a liar but you birthers. Hawaiin officials lie, newspapers lie, Obama lies, everyone but you. Let me give you facts then...

1) Obama has proved he's a citizen. His BC is the OFFICIAL one released by the sovereign state of Hawaii. It is not up to Obama to prove it's official, Hawaii says it is.

2) 2 Newspaper announcements at the time of his birth.

3) Nobody, and that includes the president, is required to allow fishing expeditions into their lives. Especially by people who have pre-decided the outcome of said fishing expedition.

4) you are so full of it, I can't help but laugh...and laugh...and laugh.

5) Obama is my duly, legally elected president...and his credentials were accepted by congress. You, on the other hand, are trying to overturn the election with no proof, no clue, and nothing more than wild accusations and unproven conclusions. That, Tuce, is called communism...and not the country I live in. Now, for people like you and Orly, it may be where you live...but not in my America.

6) People like you are either bigots, nuts, or just plain off your medication...because you have absolutely nothing to prove your point except the imaginations of a raving lunatic.

7) I call you liars and commies because the first absolute you have to overcome is the fact that Hawaiin officials attest to the fact that Obama was born in Hawaii, so you and people like you call these officials liars with no proof of anything but them doing their jobs. That's call communism, where you make an unfounded accusation and then say they have to prove you wrong.

Well, thankfully, we live in a democracy...why don't you and Orly go out and have a few drinks and talk about how sweet it would be live in a communist state where your mind is anyway.

The newspapers (The Sunday Advertiser, The Honolulu Star-Bulletin) need not have lied in 1961, but there are no newsprint copies of the editions in which the announcement of Ms. Dunham's grunting-out of baby Barry had been allegedly published. Only microfiche archives, which are susceptible to alteration, and which omit the Vital Statistics notification of the twin delivery of Mrs. Nordyke in what is claimed to be the same hospital where Barry had been born.

Now if all those newspapers could do was to receive information from the Hawaii state government and report it as received, why is there no notification on the Nordyke delivery? The reasonable inference is that something had to be expunged from those microfiche records to make room to insert the falsehood of Barry's birth. Ergo, the newspaper stuff - more precisely the microfiche archives - are a faulty source, and likely tampered with. Of no value except in gulling the credulous and the stupid (like the campaign worker of Bubba's Bitch who choked on that ACORN planting and put a premature end to the effort to disqualify the Mombasa Messiah in the National Socialist Party primaries).

The rest proceeds as outlined, with emphasis on the fact that the image of a thing - an easily altered microfiche record, a pair of computer graphic images - is not the thing itself, and cannot be accepted as such.

We're fortunate in that Barry himself holds the same alleged Certification of Live Birth which his partisans claim was used to scan for the production of those JPGs realeased on the Web in June 2008.

That COLB is in Barry's pocket, so to speak. So it can be immediately tendered to an officer of the court for verification. Ain't that nice?

And there's the fact you asshole Obamaphiles keep dodging. Barry has it. It can be evaluated by competent forensic documents examiners as to its "genuineness or non-genuineness," and at least one such qualified and certified expert in this area recommends that this should be done.

So?

You gonna keep on pushing that Big Lie your Messiah Central puppetmasters keep ordering you to fuck around with?

Thankfully, we don't live in a democracy, but in a representative republic constrained by "the chains of the Constitution."

So why don't you just wedge your head the rest of the way up your ass and smell the rose food, Jimmy?

Again, now you're accusing someone somewhere of sneaking in and altering microfiche...of which there are multiple copies...oh, wait, I forgot, you've never been to a library so you wouldn't know that. Maybe they sent in a group of say 50 microfiche changers to do the job...making sure to get all the colleges and high schools that may or may not have a copy. No proof just conjecture...stretching pretty thin at that. strike one

I have accused no one, you happy simpleton. I've observed that such an alteration - even to multiple archives of these two small town newspapers' publications in what is a very small state - is possible, and that the omission of notification of the Nordyke deliveries is a "Damn. That's funny...." element that must be explained before those microfiche archives can be taken as a reliable record of what had happened in that first week of August, 1961.

The really odd thing isn't that Ms. Dunham's uterine squeezings had been reported (or even that the address listed, when subjected to a title search, fails of recording anyone named "Dunham" or "Obama" as ever having lived there) but that Mrs. Nordyke's delivery of twin girls isn't mentioned in that microfiche archive.

Sort of a "The dog did nothing in the night-time" type of thing. Capisce?

Besides, it wouldn't take "a group of say 50 microfiche changers to do the job." One guy, maybe two. Locate the archives, make that number of counterfeit microfiche pages, go in seriatim, remove and substitute. With microfilm reels, very difficult. With microfiche - easy.

Just conjecture, certainly. But the burden of proof is on Barry, and by extension fellahin like you, fuckwit.

I just love this...

TUCI: "Besides, it wouldn't take "a group of say 50 microfiche changers to do the job." One guy, maybe two. Locate the archives, make that number of counterfeit microfiche pages, go in seriatim, remove and substitute. With microfilm reels, very difficult. With microfiche - easy.

Just conjecture, certainly. But the burden of proof is on Barry, and by extension fellahin like you, fuckwit."

So do you ever listen to yourself? Conjecture, but prove me wrong? You have to be kidding. Is that what you think our leader should be doing??? Is that what he was elected for, to answer every crazy theory you can come up with in your sick little twisted mind? Nope, he was elected to lead the country, your mind on the other hand...

Calling the question, fuckwit. Honest men - us constitutionalists - can "conjecture" all we friggin' please. We don't have to be proven right or wrong in order to call into question not only your faux noir socialist sad sack of shit Mombasa Messiah but also the "evidence" you asshole Obamaphiles offer in lieu of proof of his place of birth. Character of microfiche newspaper archives still makes them an unreliable supporting source of information on what had actually happened in Honolulu that week in August 1961.

No Nordyke delivery listed, no validity to those microfiche pages. Tough shit for you, asshole.

Can't Barry Soetoro come up with even that print-on-paper COLB his anonymous campaign flunky supposedly scanned to produce those computer graphic images in June 2008 - and thereby prove that what we see in those images is what actually apears - in full - on the stamped, signed, and sealed legal document?

Yeah, this is precisely what your "poverty pimp" public servant should be doing. Proving he has the lawful authority to do anything else in that office to which he'd been elected, and for which millions of those people who had been suckered into voting for him are now expressing profound "buyer's remorse."

Compliance with this simple demand is a nothing. American citizens do it all the fucking time, as a matter of course. He could have one of his interns get up off her knees, spit out his cum, and run the fucking document itself to a judge's chambers without taking more than the time necessary to empty his bladder after she'd sucked him off.

So he was elected. So had been a lot of errant public servants who are at this moment doing time in prison. Winning an election, shit-for-brains, confers even upon your sainted scum, Barry, neither particular privilege nor immunity.

Tuce, I've got to give you more credit...you've finally figured it out!!! It wasn't Obama that the coverup was for, IT WAS NORDYKE!!!

Tuce: "No Nordyke delivery listed, no validity to those microfiche pages. Tough shit for you, asshole."

That's what this is all about. Nordyke was born in Europe to european parents and they just KNEW that their child would become president. So, when they were in Europe having their child, they rushed back to Hawaii to get a fake birth certificate, thereby making their child a natural born citizen. Their plan failed because of 2 very important pieces they forgot...didn't get the newspaper announcement...and more importantly, didn't get elected president...poor Nordyke.

The moral...if anyone named Nordyke ever runs for president, make sure they weren't born in Hawaii. Thanks Tuce, I'll remember that just in case I ever need it.

That's Doctor and Mrs. Nordyke, asshole. The daddy responsible for pollinating that pregnancy was one of the early pioneers in diagnostic imaging, and in Honolulu in 1961 a very big frog in a very small puddle.

As a result, the omission of the delivery of twin girls (multiple births are more common nowadays owing to the use of fertility drugs to "push" ovulation) to a "pillar of the community" like Dr. & Mrs. Nordyke would sure as hell be in The Sunday Advertiser and The Honolulu Star-Bulletin.

Barry's little ACORN sneak thieves just picked the wrong birth notification to wipe so that they could insert their Messiah's fraudulence.

Ain't you just agonizingly fucked again, Jimmy?

Not really, following the line of thinking you like to put out on Obama...it's possible that Mrs. Nordyke had a miscarriage before the twins birth. Still wanting a couple of daughters, they flew to France and adopted a set of twin orphans...off the books, of course...then flew back to Hawaii and had some friends at the Hospital create the BC so it would look like the girls were born in Hawaii and then, of course, 48 years later they expected one of their daughters to be the first woman president. Of course, the hospital staff covered it up for their dear Dr. Nordyke and that's why they don't appear in the newspapers. Like I said, they missed a couple of steps, like getting their daughter elected president. WOW, that was easy Tuci, just make things up and have you prove me wrong. Got another...this is fun!

Mrs. Nordyke may be pictured online at this location holding a copy of one of her daughters' birth certificates.

She is alive today, she had been delivered of twin daughters (who are also alive today), and her daughters' births had been recorded by the Hawaii state governments officers of vital statistics in 1961.

While you're groping around down there, JIM, pull the other one, why don'tcha?

Whups! That's "holding copies of both her daughters' birth certificates."

You mean her forged certificates that were provided by her husband's friend at the hospital. Besides, we can't tell they're even real, they're only computer images. And, since they're forgeries they don't matter at all. WOW, that's fun...make it up as you go. Great Tuci, do it again! But wait...didn't you say the Hawaii state government isn't reliable because they said Obama's was real? The same people who were there in 61? Now you're confusing me...when they agree with you their correct, when they disagree with you their liars?

Nah. Nordyke was a radiologist - one of the early subspecialists in nuclear medicine. You ever dealt with those guys? No way he could pull off the sort of ACORN dirty tricks Barry has had on call for the past decade or so.

Keep wriggling, worm.

Gawd, I hate proofing errors.

"As a result, the notification of the delivery of twin girls (multiple births are more common nowadays owing to the use of fertility drugs to "push" ovulation) to "pillar of the community" couple like Dr. & Mrs. Nordyke would sure as hell be in The Sunday Advertiser and The Honolulu Star-Bulletin."

Oh Tuce, thanks for being so entertaining. You got nothing, and you keep proving it time and time again. Even when given a free opportunity to state your case, you can't give one piece of proof for any of your zany accusations. Even your insults lack any idea of critical thinking, just more blathering of an insecure, thumb-sucking momma's boy who would be more comfortable sitting in his momma's basement thinking he's saving the world than to come out to see the light of democracy and freedom. But, you know what...that's all you're ever going to be. Next time you flush, be sure to look down, because I'd hate for you to miss the chance to see the last of your intelligence go flowing away with the rest of the s**t you've been spouting.

Nah. The point is that your Mombasa Messiah's "got nothing," as in no support for his contention that he's a natural born citizen of these United States and therefore qualified to have even entered his name in the National Socialist Party's presidential primaries last year.

Count upon count of criminal fraud. Ain't that nice? The only question is whether his sentences will run concurrently or sequentially.

Tuci: "The point is that your Mombasa Messiah's "got nothing," as in no support for his contention that he's a natural born citizen of these United States"

1) Hawaii states that he was born there...therefor a citizen
2) 2 Newspapers announce his birth
3) 50 states accepted Obama as a candidate
4) A vast majority of citizens voted for him as president
5) The electoral college accepted him as a candidate and gave him a majority of the electoral votes
6) Congress accepted that he was a valid candidate and certified that he won
7) Supreme Court Justice accepted him as an american citizen and gave him the Oath of Office
8) And most important, he is the President.

That, my good man, is game, set, and match. Unless, of course, you can come up with at least 8 reasons he's not eligible. But, you won't, because you can't...you'll just start ranting and raving and making wild claims that you can't back up...just like you always do.

(1) One Hawaii politician and one Hawaii state bureaucrat, public statements, no sworn attestation, no documentation. Deniability high, value zero.

(2) Newsprint unavailable. Microfiche archives, easily hacked. Nordyke delivery notification omitted. Reliability zero, value zero.

(3) State election bureaucrats failed to exercise due diligence. Bureaucratic dereliction of duty. Occurrence universal, value to Obamaphiles zero.

(4) Narrow popular majority of voters. "Does history record any case in which the majority was right?" These United States are constituted as a representative republic under a Constitution, not as a democracy. Support for Obamaphile willful ignorance: zero.

(5) Electoral college officers are not empowered to review the qualification of a presidential candidate. Value to Obamaphile excuse for a case: zero.

(6) "It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress." Dereliction of duty by self-dealing career politicians of the Boot-On-Your-Neck Party. "Go along to get along." Contempt for the American people astronomical. Value to the Obamaphile cause: zero.

(7) SCOTUS has not ruled on alleged natural born citizen status of Barry Soetoro. Value: zero.

(8) Most important, unlawfully exercising the powers of the presidency by virtue of failure to qualify under Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution - on the part of a constitutional lawyer, no less. Value to the National Socialist cause: zero.

Tennis racket shoved retrograde up Jim's cloaca. Game over.

See, you just did it again. No proof, just accusations. Did you just take another dump and lose some more intelligence?

The need for proof, JIM, is on your side of the dispute. All I need to do is point out that Barry's "natural born citizen" status assertions are without definitive support and that definitive support is well within his personal power to provide, consisting in that 2007 COLB he - supposedly - already has, and the information held in the vault of the government of the state of Hawaii.

All the rest of the crap upon which you've harped is peripheral, derivative, falsifiable, and therefore unreliable.

"The good stuff" is that which is only within Barry's direct power to release - unless, of course, he quits spending a million-plus bucks to quash court actions designed to force that information out of him and/or the Hawaii state government.

You ever wonder why your beloved Barry won't just cough up the goddam birth certificate?

Honestly?

Whoa! An Obamaphile?

Honest?

Unthinkable!

Criminal fraud with no proof...interesting. Oh wait, that's right it's up to the defendant to prove his innocence not the accuser to prove guilt in the little world that only exists in your mind...sorry I forgot.

So if I state the following...

Tuci is a child molester with kiddie porn on his computer. All his neighbors should be told and his computer confiscated.

Tuci is sitting at home watching gay midget men go at it hot and heavy...he prefers midgets because the only time he's ever been seen naked by a woman she went running out the door laughing uncontrollably at his lack of manhood...at least watching the midgets make him feel like half a man.

Great! Now, in your little world, you have to prove me wrong or everything I've said is correct. Have fun!

Proof? Without Barry providing proof that he is a natural born citizen of these United States, then every attestation he has ever signed - required by every state in which he had entered his name in a National Socialist Party presidential primary to begin with, right over the signature line certifying that he is a "natural born citizen" of this country - is itself a separate and discrete action of criminal fraudulence.

It is not that your "poverty pimp" pseudopresident must prove any putative innocence, but rather that his failure to prove his qualification to enter his name in any of those primaries (much less in the general election) can and should give rise to multiple criminal charges derived therefrom.

Did he know he was not a natural born citizen when he signed those attestations? He's a constitutional lawyer. Most certainly he knew. Criminal mens rea demonstrable? Assuredly.

Leavenworth, Atlanta, or the maximum-security lockdown in Marion, Ohio?

Choices, choices...

I lay you dollars to donuts you're in prison long before Obama is...because Obama will never go to prison. But, I could, of course, be wrong...because you're already there!

In Barry's America?

Heck, JIM, all honest citizens are "in prison."

And you Obamaphile butt-munchers are just bucking for trustee status, right?

Man, you do talk about people's butts a lot...is that your fixation?

When dealing with you Obamaphiles, one is enjoined always to address the end of the spine where the greatest level of function is found.

That is always the caudal terminus, therefore....

No wonder you've always got your nose stuck up there...must smell like home.

I also see you don't believe in the constitution...glad you're not american and don't live under it because I and around 300,000,000 people will defend it against the likes of you.

Strike 2

"Nothing is more revolting than the majority; for it consists of few vigorous predecessors, of knaves who accommodate themselves, of weak people who assimilate themselves, and the mass that toddles after them without knowing in the least what it wants."

-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Actually, I think you got the wrong quote there Tuce...here he is writing about you.

"Nothing is worse than active ignorance."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

or maybe some of these others will fit in with you...

"It is impossible to make people understand their ignorance; for it requires knowledge to perceive it and therefore he that can perceive it hath it not."
Jeremy Taylor (1613 - 1667)

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
Martin Luther King Jr. (1929 - 1968),

Great quotes, Jim. Considering that "active ignorance" - better characterized as willful ignorance - has been the signal characteristic of you asswipe Obamaphiles on the "natural born citizen" issue, I'll happily make use of these citations.

I'd not read the Taylor quotation before, and I'm pleased to see in it the germ of what we call today the scientific method. The first step in that process is what I've heard described as "the definition of our ignorance," reviewing what is known about the phenomenon under examination to delineate the boundaries of those lacunae in our fund of knowledge and devise a method whereby they can be explored and "filled in."

Thanks. I don't think you intended to fuck yourself here (especially with that tiny little excuse for a penis you've got), but shoving that broomhandle up your ass certainly seems to have done the trick.

Well, might as well complete this...kinda gotten bored with you Tuce. The court has no standing to remove Obama from the White House, only Congress can do that and they have accepted his credentials. Wait, that darn Constitution keeps getting in the way...oh, well, you're not american anyway so why worry.

Strike 3

"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States."

-- U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 5

Now, Tuce, I'll tell you what. I'll give you the exact same opportunity to PROVE any birther nonsense that I gave Steve earlier in a different thread. You show any documented PROOF that Obama isn't an american citizen, and I'll shoot it down. Go ahead, all these wonderful readers would love to see PROOF of what your stating. All we've seen from you is theories and guesses backed up by nothing. Give us the PROOF...show me that you believe in a democracy and not a communist state. I am not so closed minded that I can't be convinced, except I won't be convinced by wild accusations without any proof...never have, never will.

Fuckhead JIM, no "birther" has to "PROVE" a merry little thing. The burden of proof is on the disputant voicing the positive proposition.

Not "That sad sack of shit 'poverty pimp' asshole Barry Soetoro is not qualified to serve as President of these United States," but rather:

"Us whining, lying, fuckwit Obmaphiles insist that our beloved Mombasa Messiah, living saint of the socialist utopia, is qualified to occupy that office at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue instead of a cell in Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary where he truly belongs!"

Okay. So where's your proof? Computer images with Photoshop fingerprints of clumsy alteration all over 'em? Har-de-har-har!

So "PROVE" your contention, dickbreath.

Ah, but "never have, never will."

Thanks, Tuce, you fell into the same thing as all the rest. You can't prove a thing, you can only guess and then show your true colors. Now be a nice momma's boy, stick your thumb back into your mouth and get back to that imaginary world on your computer that you spend too many hours playing...maybe there someone will care about your delusions.

I repeat that the honest participants in these exchanges - whom you shit-for-brains Obamaphiles call "birthers" - need only call the question. The burden of proof is not upon them, and had never been.

You, JIM, and your co-religionists worshiping the Mombasa Messiah, have the responsibility to bring proof to the public dispute over your Chicago "poverty pimp" thug of a Fraudulence-in-Chief's lawful qualification to continue performing cunnilingus on Michelle (those sores on his dick just won't heal, will they?) in the presidential bedroom at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue when in reality the proper occupant is Joe Biden, and may God have mercy on these United States.

You've got the burden of proof, JIM, and inasmuch as you represent the core of Barry's constituency, I'd say that the sorry motherfucker is in for a long, long time in federal prison.

And you are a non-american who doesn't believe in the Constitution of our Country...I think I win that argument.

Obama is our president, and you are...tell you what, I'll let the readers decide what you are, they're much more astute than you'll ever imagine being.

Tsk. I not only "believe in the Constitution of our Country," but I want it fully enforced.

In this case, Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 5.

I also want the Bill of Rights enforced. Vigorously. Unremittingly. Thoroughly.

Barry Soetoro is a fraud, masquerading as President of these United States, a criminal enthroned, and those of us with respect for the validity and integrity of our central charter of civil government (as well as the protection of each citizen's human and civil rights) desire that your Mombasa Messiah be ripped out of the office he usurps and brought before the bar to answer for his crimes.

And non-Obamaphile readers, not besotted by Barry-worship and dreams of the National Socialist utopia, will judge the validity of this position for its manifest worth, and will turn on Barry Soetoro the full force of their rage and hatred.

As he most certainly deserves.

Tuce...Please don't forget the 14th amendment while you've become interested in the constitution...hate for you to forget that one.

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Darn, sorry Tuce, I forgot. Whenever something doesn't agree with your position, it doesn't have any standing in Tuceworld. I understand that your world doesn't believe in things such as due process and such...but, we live in the USA and not your imaginary world. Your world is called a communism, and you and Orly can go back there since it's where you seem to fell most comfortable.

By and large, I think the 14th Amendment is great. It recognizes that every American benefits from a species of "dual citizenship" - as a citizen of these United States and as a citizen of whichever of the several states in which he resides. Thus the 14th Amendment imposes upon the officers of the federal government the duty to protect the rights of American citizens against the particular governments of those of the several states whose officers act to violate those rights.

Anything that sets the officers of one government at the throats of the officers of another government for the specific purpose of protecting American citizens' civil rights is emphatically a good thing.

So where does the 14th Amendment apply to the obstinate, arrogant, criminally suspicious refusal of Barry Soetoro to put his physical birth certificate (or the "vault" information in the archives of the government of the state of Hawaii) into the hands of a duly constituted officer of a court of law in any of these United States?

Keep groping, Jim. While you're fumbling around down there in your pants, if you can find it, try yanking the other one.

Still BHO was never a natural-born U.S. citizen for even a minute. He was at best born with dual-citizenship to an underage mother who could not confer natural-born status under law at the time and a Kenyan-Brit father. Then at about five his Indonesian father adopted him, changed his name to Soetoro, etc. BHO went to Pakistan as a citizen of somewhere? Where? He attended college as a citizen of somewhere. Where? To the anti-birthers I ask this simple question: At what point did BHO(Soetoro) become an American (who doesn't place his hand over his heart during the National Anthem)? I believe more than ever BHO is hiding at least one major flaw in his citizenship status.

He went to Pakistan as an American citizen, because like all the other claims by the birthers, this claim that he couldn't travel to Pakistan in 1981 using a US passport is just another load of BS. And there is NO law that requires you place your hand over your heart during the Pledge or the National Anthem. I see a lot of conservatives just yawn during it. Hell, I watched Glenn Beck lean against a chair, looking bored, when Ted Nugent slaughtered the National Anthem at the Alamo Tea Party

New evidence about his Fake Birth certificate and that Obama’s mother didn’t live at claimed address in Hawaii when obama was born

The records from a Honolulu title search, obtained by WND, document 6085 Kalanianaole Highway was purchased in 1958 by Orland Scott Lefforge, a University of Hawaii professor, and his wife/companion Thelma Young, who lived at the property and remained owners into the 1970s.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageI...

And the Globe is running an article about obama’s fake birth certificate. Granted they’re a “gossip rag” but then “The Enquirer” busted John Edwards in spite of denial after denial by him and all the major news agencies.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageI...


The questions won’t go away until obama releases his hidden records. All he has to do is make the following official public statement,

"I Barack Obama authorize the State of Hawaii to release and make public all of my records on file."

That's it. Issue over. But he won't because he's a fraud!! Obama knows that millions of citizens want to see it yet he continues to hide it. What/why is he hiding?

And maybe more disturbing is why don't BHO's supporters want to know the whole truth, especially since there's a reward of $100,000 for proof that Obama is a "natural born" citizen of the United States? The answer is that Obama’s very own supporters also know he’s a fraud!

OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND YOUR OTHER RECORDS!!!!!