Karl Rove: The Kenyan ‘Birth Certificate’ Is ‘Likely a Forgery’

It's remarkable that THIS is the breaking point for these people. Orly Taitz was plainly non-credible from the very beginning of her crusade to most Americans. The only people who believed her anyway are those who don't really care what the evidence shows because they simply want to believe what they want to believe. Namely: birthers.

The Turd Blossom has spoken. Smarten up birthers. Taitz is scamming you folks.

Well to be fair to Rove, I'm sure he is kicking himself for not thinking of faking a birth certificate and trying to disqualify Obama.

Didn't Kenya become a republic in December, 1964?

Poor Orly Taitz. Poor 'birthers'.

I don’t trust ANY politician and almost no one in the media. I still want two answers.

1) Why can't we see his long-form? Obama knows that millions of citizens want to see it yet he continues to hide it. What/why is he hiding?

and most disturbingly,

2) Why don't BHO's supporters want to know the whole truth, especially since there’s a reward of $100,000 for proof that Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States.

OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!!

[...] with Birth Certificate Update: Not that I consider Karl Rove an expert on anything but he is on the record that “The Kenyan ‘Birth Certificate’ Is ‘Likely a [...]

In answer to:
1. There are hundreds of millions that either don't care, or realize this is delusional;
2. Go claim that money! Come on, what are you waiting for?

If the Kenyan birth certifiicate is a forgery, why won't Obama release his birth certificate to prove it? Obama is the one creating the suspicion. There has to be a reason why he will not release it. It's either A) he is not a U.S. citizen or B) he is trying to distroy his oponents by making them look crazy for demanding it.

I am offering $1,000,000 for proof that birther nutjobs aren't inbred idiots. OF course I reserve the right to be the sole arbiter of whether such item has actually been proven, my decision is final and completely irrevocable and non-negotiable.

Note, this is simply an offer to see whether it can be proven to my satisfaction, I am not stating whether this contention is accurate or false. It is simply an offer to see if such proof can be given.

Yes, but isn't the President just stoking that fire by not producing the long-form certificate of his birth that shows the name of the hospital and the name of the physician who did the delivery? Theoretically, both documents could be authentic and accurate – if so, the “fault” would lie with Obama's mother for submitting a fraudulent application for a COLB from Hawaii.

I don't understand this whole birther/non-birther argument. The birthers are idiots for thinking they can get the Kenyon-in-Chief to reveal his long-form birth certificate (yep, that one us ordinary folks have to cough up when we get all our government benefits). And the non-birthers are even bigger idiots because they think the issue is the most important thing in our long march into Marxism. It really makes no difference that Obama has or doesn't have American citizenship – we don't have a working constitution anymore as it is – Obama and (wrecking)crew have nailed the penultimate nail in the coffin lid with their myriad unconstitutional czars, spending programs, and boondoggles. Maybe some of us will wake up and save the country, but likely not and we will fade away into history as a failed experiment.

Tammy Faye Taitz. A real piece of work, this one. LOL

Obama's smart enough to know that NOTHING will suffice with these people, no amount of scientific, forensic evidence. Face it, they just hate President Obama, and want to see him taken down, by any and all available means, no matter how utterly sleazy and idiotic.

They have the burden of proof exactly backwards (not that that will matter to them). Obama has no need to kiss their butts, to “prove” anything to their (unattainable) satisfaction. He's already been vetted. Fully. Neither the Clinton nor McCain campaigns (or the myriad initial other Dem and GOP contenders) could find any dirt on him, and you can bet that the deadly, deadly serious senior career National Security people would have surreptitiously outed him had there been any skeletons. Get serious.

[...] with Birth Certificate Update: Not that I consider Karl Rove an expert on anything but he is on the record that “The Kenyan ‘Birth Certificate’ Is ‘Likely a Forgery’” Update: Progressive Nation [...]

Taitz is running a big money making scam on the easily deceived. Think I may get in on it.

I am old Keyan witch doctor. I made special mark on special part of Obama at birth. Send me $1000.00 for picture I took at his birth with my digital camera.

Here are a few problems with the Kenyan birth certificate…

1. It is dated Feb 17, 1961 and states on its face that it comes from the “Republic of Kenya.” However that designation was not used until December 1964.

2. Its number 44 O 47 is a bit coincidental with our 44th President, Obama, being 47 years old.

3. The registrar's name is given as EF Lavender. Earth Friendly Lavender is a detergent popular in Kenya.

4. Besides, although a registrar's “signature” is called for, the words “E. F. Lavender” are only typed. No signature.

5. Mombassa did not become part of Kenya until 1963. It used to be part of Zanzibar.

6. The Coast General Hospital is actually called the Coast Provincial General Hospital.

7. A “signature” is requested of the “informant.” No signature is given. Just the typed out generic “B.H. Obama, Father, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States.”

8. The deputy registrar purports to be one “Joshua Simon Oduya.” Gee, there's a common Kenyan name. Sort of like Rutherford Winston Mutombo. Couldn't they have made up a plausible name? Oh wait, I forgot about the laundry detergent thing.

9. Where's the doctor's signature on the Kenyan birth certificate? What? You mean there's no doctor's signature? Well, hell's bells! If I learned anything from you birthers (besides how to confuse “your” with “you're”) it is that a REAL birth certificate has a doctor's signature.

So the Kenyan burf sirtifikat is a fake. An obvious one. But we knew that.

Could've saved yourself 9 paragraphs of reading if you'd just considered the source.

Orly Taitz said it's real. Therefore it's fake. Piece of cake.

[...] leaders and conservatives also voiced their skepticism. Chief Republican strategist Karl Rove said he believes the document is a forgery in a Twitter post this morning. Conservative talk show host Glen Beck has derided the so-called [...]

found the template!

Its a forgery based on an old South Australian BC!

http://politijab.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=25&…

Not to get sucked too far into this, but as to #1, if the cert was ordered after the fact (i.e., for a divorce case, etc.), the date of issuance would of necessity be later than the date of birth. #2, yeah, maybe coincidence, maybe not. Not sure. #3, there is some flotsam out there about an actual person with that name – Erik or Eric Lavander or something. Again, don't know enough yet to say. #4 – if this was ordered later, that could be authentic. Don't know yet. #s5-9 – see #1.

Point is, Obama could address all of these things in court, like McCain had to do when his eligibility was challenged. He hasn't. Orly Taitz or no Orly Taitz (even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and again – no pun intended) – the Constitution means something. Obama's reaction to this has been absurd – he seems to think he is above the Constitution, which is not seemly for a man who wanted to be President.

Nonsense he has met all the constitutional requirements.

His only problem is driving the ship of state while black.

“He boy, pull over, we wanna see your license and registration”

The long form showing his delivery at Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu. by Rodney T. West, MD is not needed.

The President of the United States doesnt have to jump through hoops to satisfy some nazi fruitcake.

“driving the ship of state while black.”

You know, until the race card came out, I might have believed you. Around these parts, we get so much of that, we learned a long time ago that those who use it don't have anything else in their hands…..

What about this?

“One weird thing, though, they are both folded similarly but the folds are not in the same place.”

Um, he didn't produce his long form BC.

Um, he didn't produce his long form BC.

Your right…you dont understand.

Your right…you dont understand.

PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!!!!! DON”T DRNK THE KOOL AID!!!!!!! Obama doesn't go by the rules or constitution. He (so he thinks) is above it. He ignores all requests and keeps dragging us along. Meanwhile, we are busy trying to prove him wrong and get him out of office. While we are busy with that, he is busy shoving God know what bills through and passing things without our knowledge!!! Pay attention to what he is doing! Read the bills he is trying to pass while no one is paying attention. All this talk about clunkers for cash, birth certificate, and the economy is a distraction to things getting slipped under our noses!!!

Nonsense.

1 – date of issuance is relevant only to the fact that ON THAT DATE, Kenya was not going around calling itself a Republic.

2 – Coincidence? Get real. Or just look at the Australian birth certificate this one was based on.

http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/images/Da…

3 – There is no flotsam. There's G.F. Lavender, the Australian registrar, and then there's E.F. Lavender, the detergent. No Erik or Eric.

Stop making shit up! Seriously. What the fuck is wrong with you?

4 – Ordered later has nothing to do with NO SIGNATURE. What's your problem? Why would you defend an obvious forgery even after everyone knows it's fake? Are you insane?

5 – 9 “see #1″ Oh. You mean look again at the shit you couldn't figure out the first time?

You mean you don't know what to say about 5 – 9?

That's ok. I know what to say about 5 – 9. I wrote them.

Obama doesn't need to address these things in court. He proved to any reasonable person's satisfaction something NO other President has ever even had to attempt to prove to the public.

The Constitution does indeed mean something. It means yahoos and racist xenophobic sore losers have to have some sort of evidence of their claims before a sitting President has to take time out of the Presidential agenda to gratify them with acknowledgment.

Obama does not “seem to think he is above the Constitution.” He's participating in the legal system AS A DEFENDANT. People are suing him. If he did NOT defend the suits, THAT would be putting himself above the law.

You are disturbed.

I didn't need to use the race card.

I showed that you're not playing with a full deck, joker.

Go to freerepublic or WND and try out your inane bullshit there. We actually read for ourselves over here.

Gee, there's a nice illustration of the false dilemma. It's gotta be A or B.

Unless it's C, D, E, F, G, or H.

Maybe, there's another reason beyond H.

Or, maybe, I mean, certainly, he HAS released it. We've all seen it. Where the hell have you been?

I'll explain why its a forgery(the answer is option B)

The certificate was issued two years after Obama's birth. (when Obama was born Kenya was not independent). By its self that's not much. However the certificate supposedly from the Republic of Kenya was issued ten months before it became a republic. So how does the republic of Kenya issue a birth certificate for a two year old. Ten months before it became the republic of Kenya?

Here's the thing, the birthers can't win, they have no evidence to support their claims, and by dragging it out it makes them and the republics foolish enough to support them look stupid.
Made up evidence is not evidence.

their point. (which by the way is all evidence as they have none to support their own). They also didn't accept that On July 28th, 2009, State officials in Hawaii once again issued a statement officially confirming Obama was born in the state of Hawaii. I repeat that the official stance of the state of Hawaii is that Obama was born in their state. They don't accept the statements from two hawaiian news papers who said they reported on the birth of a boy to Mr. and Misses Obama, on August 4, 1961. Why must Obama continually prove his natural born citizenship when the birthers can't provide any evidence to support that he wasn't born in this country, oh yeah there isn't any evidence to support their point. Congress voted 378-0 that Obama was born in Hawaii. 55 members did not vote(35 of those non-voters were democrat).

Cry about it some more. He is still president and your guy isn't.

if its so wild how come obama wont put it to bed instead of spending
huge $$ to lawyers instead?

….just askin.

????

This is so similar to the forged Swift Boat documents that were so obviously created on Microsoft Word with Courier font from back in 2004. If you look at Ms. Taitz's forged Kenyan document closely, you can EASILY see the Photoshopping everywhere there is text that has been entered into the blanks. The background of the text is pixellated at a different dpi resolution that that of the certificate, which either indicates that it was superimposed over a blank document, or the pre-existing text on it was blurred out or erased using any number of Photoshop tools. When this forgery is proven, I hope they disbar her and send her back to Tel Aviv so she can represent Israeli soldiers who are throwing innocent Palestinian families out of their homes and into the streets.

I have your birth certificate that shows you are indeed a Klingon, born among Klingons.
And if this is so wild then why wont you put it to bed – by showing us that Klingon certificate – instead of hiding it and just sitting there denying it?

… just askin

Show us the Hawai'i long form, that's all I want.

Why is it being kept hidden?

Why would you waste your time on this nonsense. You people need to get a life.

This is why I just left the Republican Party.

Kapi'olani. No one has ever said he was born at Queens Medical Center. Ever. That was never alleged by Obama, his people, his documentation, nothing. Some birthers tried to create this oh he said he was born at Queens Medical Center and now he is saying Kapi'olani when he's never ever said anything other than he was born at Kapi'olani. He's been consistent.

Kapi'olani has confirmed that Stanley Dunham was a patient and that she gave birth, the Republican Governor and Health Department Secretary have both confirmed that his long form is on file and that it shows that he was born at Kapi'olani. This thing is over. Hawaii doesn't give out copies of the long form anymore, and the document Obama has produced, the short form, is their official birth certificate. By the way you can't get a valid legal short form (which he produced a year ago) without the long form on file. Where do you think they get the information used to type up the short form? The short form is prima facie evidence of the facts contained therein and it states he was born in Honolulu. So you know what is on his long form by the short form which has been authenticated over and over by independant and even conservative sources. It has alll the information needed for a passport a drivers license and any other document you need to get. He was born in Hawaii period.

Taitz is just nuts. Obama gave more than enough proof. More then Bush had to give. This is a case of racism, and that kenyan doc. is obviously a forgery. Nothing she says has any credibility except with those paranoid far right wing nuts.

What idiots! Somehow, the birthers think that they can pull a scam and discredit the President of the United States? Maybe they should practice by trying to fool their kindergarten teachers first. They want to buck the State of Hawaii, the House of Representatives, and whomever else they can get to listen to their issue, just because we have a mixed race President. I can't wait until a woman is elected to our highest office. These same people will come out of the woodwork and claim that she's a transexual, or a transvestite, and therefore not a real woman, or some other innane bull.

Maybe the forgery was concocted by Obama's camp as a sort of red herring to lead his persecutors astray. Whatever the forger is, he/she isn't a true sceptic or “birther”.

So then he was probably born a dual-citizen in Hawaii before becoming an Indonesian?

This statement by the corrupt and criminal Karl Rove practically guarantees that the Kenyan birth certification is TOTALLY AUTHENTIC.

IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS NEEDS TO BE STARTED AGAINST OBAMA IMMEDIATELY. We've had more than enought of this total FAKE AND LIAR and he needs to be charged with FELONY FRAUD and hearings need to start IMMEDIATELY to remove him from office as POTUS if he is indeed found to be GUILTY.

A+++++++++++++++++++++++++ for Dr. Orly Taitz in PURSUING THE TRUTH.

F————————————————– for Obama and his minions in BEING TOTAL LIARS AND REFUSING TO PROVIDE THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS DEMANDED.

So as it appears to have gone is that the birthers got punked by a set-up Kenyan-BC that no sooner was it presented to the public than some guy in Australia just happened to be ready to claim it was fake. Oh well, that still doesn't change where BHO was actually born and we still haven't seen the original BC which was almost for sure once on file in Hawaii. Fact probably is that after Barry Soetoro was adopted in Indonesia he never legally changed his name or citizenship to American. He did manage to get a passport to Pakistan in 1981 probably as an Indonesian. BHO attended three expensive colleges also as an Indonesian(or some other Foreign Student status). The Kenyan birth Grandma Obama claims to have witnessed is just a red-herring to throw us off the scent of the Indonesian citizenship. Let's see the college records & that original BC would still be nice to look at. We haven't made much progress but don't lose heart. Pray the truth is revealed soon before anymore damage is done.

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Karl C Rove was born a illigitimate child.
His birth mother and birth father were not married.

RSVP

Thaning you in advvance.
Have a blessed day

Sincerely;

GEORGE CAMPBELL MACLIN III,

Karl C Rove was born a illigitimate child.
His birth mother and birth father were not married.

RSVP

Thaning you in advvance.
Have a blessed day

Sincerely;

GEORGE CAMPBELL MACLIN III,

Karl C Rove was born a illigitimate child.
His birth mother and birth father were not married.

RSVP

Thaning you in advvance.
Have a blessed day

Sincerely;

GEORGE CAMPBELL MACLIN III,

The only damage is that you wake up every day and live on this earth as a complete and total idiotic moron. Everyone who reads your post is now dumber for having to listen to your lunacy. It's one thing to disagree on political issues but to demonize the President of the United States because you have a gut feeling he wasn't born in the US is ridiculous. No one cares what you feel. The AMERICAN people voted for the best candidate. And thus we have a president that we now support as Americans. I supported Bush and now Obama. You sir belong in a conspiracy psychiatric ward. There you can search for the true birth place of Obama as you stare at the walls.