Comments on: Orlando Newspaper Asks Bill Posey to Withdraw the ‘Birther Bill’

By: Adam

Adam — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:19:28 +0000

Really, what's the harm here? If Obama (or anybody else) can't come up with the relevant documentation, that's their problem.

By: An eligible natural born USA

An eligible natural born USA — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:33:53 +0000

Most of Natural Born Citizens and WANT to know everything about a candidate BEFORE the election. We have millions natural citizens for choose from the masses for the USA President.
The short version, that Obama had a foreign father, so he has dual citizenship or more, Indonesia, British, Kenyan, last his interests aren't our natural American citizens interests.

By: RedGraham

RedGraham — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:26:22 +0000

The man is not now and was never a natural-born US citizen and is therefore illegally in office. His very first act as prez was to seal all the documents of his school/college records & he has still not produced an original Birth Certificate. He may have been born a dual-citizen in Hawaii or a Brit in Hawaii, Kenya or possibly Canada. He was later adopted at about age five in Indonesia as Moslem Barry Soetoro. He went to Hawaii on an unknown passport at age ten to visit his grandparents the Dunhams & stayed to adulthood. His '79 HS diploma was probably awarded to Barry Soetoro and that would explain how he got a passport to Pakistan & applied to Occidental College as a foreign student. We are presently in the midst of a constitutional crisis and the beginning of another civil war. Obama is a usurper and he must depart the Oval Office ASAP.

By: Tuci78

Tuci78 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:32:31 +0000

Well, it's getting out in the drive-by media now.

From David Hahn, "Publisher StatePaper.com " August 5, 2009.

Publisher: Obama Should Produce Original Birth Certificate

At StatePaper.com, we know by making this statement we will be instantly tagged as "racist," "birther," or other pejorative terms by those who defend the President of the United States. We often defend the President and the job he is doing and are regularly lambasted for being "too liberal" or an "Obama lover" by some of our most prolific critics.

But, here is the issue:

The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of our country. Article II of the Constitution requires the President to be a natural born citizen. Without reciting them here, there appears to be some serious questions raised about whether President Obama was born in the United States or Kenya. We have not checked sources, but there are reports that some witnessed his birth in Kenya.

The President's campaign staff and then his administration have released and placed on the internet a "Certificate of Live Birth." We do not dispute the validity or correctness of that document as others have tried to do, suggesting the use of computers to alter seals and names. By releasing this document the President agrees that the claims about his status as a natural born citizen is an open, important, public issue.

But, this "Certificate of Live Birth" is simply not the best evidence that the President and his administration could offer to lay to rest any doubt about his status as a natural born citizen.

Barack Obama is a lawyer and a graduate of Harvard Law School. All law students study the body of law we call "Evidence." One of the core tenets of American law is the "best evidence rule" which requires the production of original, or certified copies, of original document to prove a fact. Abstracts and summaries are not original documents.

The President has offered an abstract (Certificate) of his birth, but not an original birth certificate which would be the best evidence of his birth. We need the best evidence so that it can do what the best evidence is meant to do; dispel the doubts about a fact. We need to see the Birth Certificate. That's the one that is often handwritten and signed by the doctor.

Lawyers and legal thinkers will, obviously, argue the finer points of the "Best Evidence Rule" and its applicability to this matter. But, that misses the point. The notion of "Best Evidence" is solidly-grounded in law. This is an important public matter and it seems now that the President has started down the path of offering some evidence (Certificate of Live Birth), he should offer the "best evidence" (Original Birth Certificate) which is the source document for his birth. The document behind the document which has been released. This is what is needed now in the court of public knowledge.

The fact in question here is the constitutional qualification of the President of the United States to hold office. With a simple nod, the President could offer the American people the best evidence, the source document(s), as he learned about at Harvard, and dispel those who question his birth as a natural born citizen. His failure to provide this best evidence, when it could be so easily done, raises only more questions, which fuels an ugly public debate.

I suppose the "birther bill' isn't going to get withdrawn after all. So what happens when The New York Times starts demanding that Barry cough up his birth certificate?

By: Florida Christian

Florida Christian — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:38:21 +0000

Pat Boone is a great Christian and entertainer.

He also has extensive foreign policy experience in that he went on a Journey to the Center of the Earth and fought dinosaurs and got blown out of a volcanoe and everything!

By: LaLee

LaLee — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:33:10 +0000

Red, here are some things you need to read with open mind.

14th Amendment.

SCOTUS decision on "United States V Wong Kim Ark."

World Net Daily Aug 23, 2008:
"A separate WND investigation into Obama's certification of live birth utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageI...

By: RedGraham

RedGraham — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:07:13 +0000

Before making any judgements people should read Pat Boon's editorial about truth and see Farah's movie “A Question of Eligibility” with an open mind.

By: Star City Harbinger » McDonnell breaks with VA Birther Bill supporters Goodlatte and Cantor

Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:43:52 +0000

[...] The Washington Independent picked up on The Orlando Sentinel’s demand today that Posey withdraw the birther bill: Mr. Posey should know that birth certificates don’t put out fires. Candidate Obama produced one. But Mr. Posey said he couldn’t swear on a stack of Bibles whether that meant Mr. Obama really was a natural-born U.S. citizen. [...]

By: A

Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:49:06 +0000

Well, this was inevitable now that Orly outed the President as a Vampire on Colbert!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVCoKJ4mkeQ