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	<title>Comments on: Tulsa Newspaper Slams Jim Inhofe on &#8216;Birthers&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Tulsa newspaper &#124; Bexita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tulsa newspaper &#124; Bexita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 01:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tulsa Newspaper Slams Jim Inhofe on &#8216;Birthers&#8217; &#171; The WashingtonTulsa World, the daily newspaper of Oklahoma&#8217;s second-largest city is criticizing the state&#8217;s senior senator for creating some confusion about whether he thinks Americans should go on doubting the legitimacy of the president of the United States. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tulsa Newspaper Slams Jim Inhofe on &#8216;Birthers&#8217; &#171; The WashingtonTulsa World, the daily newspaper of Oklahoma&#8217;s second-largest city is criticizing the state&#8217;s senior senator for creating some confusion about whether he thinks Americans should go on doubting the legitimacy of the president of the United States. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Birthers vs. Truthers &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Birthers vs. Truthers &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] other things, the guy who circulated the Michelle Obama &#8220;whitey tape&#8221; rumors last fall. Several prominent Republican lawmakers also seen to have bought into the &#8220;Birther&#8221; fantasy, and the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] other things, the guy who circulated the Michelle Obama &#8220;whitey tape&#8221; rumors last fall. Several prominent Republican lawmakers also seen to have bought into the &#8220;Birther&#8221; fantasy, and the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tuci78</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/53211/tulsa-newspaper-slams-jim-inhofe-on-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-61041</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuci78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s getting out into the drive-by media now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From &lt;a href=&quot;http://nebraska.statepaper.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2009/08/05/4a79c4716da39&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David Hahn&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;Publisher, &lt;a href=&quot;http://StatePaper.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;StatePaper.com&lt;/a&gt; &quot; August 5, 2009.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Publisher: Obama Should Produce Original Birth Certificate&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At &lt;a href=&quot;http://StatePaper.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;StatePaper.com&lt;/a&gt;, we know by making this statement we will be instantly tagged as &quot;racist,&quot; &quot;birther,&quot; or other pejorative terms by those who defend the President of the United States. We often defend the President and the job he is doing and are regularly lambasted for being &quot;too liberal&quot; or an &quot;Obama lover&quot; by some of our most prolific critics.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, here is the issue:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of our country. Article II of the Constitution requires the President to be a natural born citizen. Without reciting them here, there appears to be some serious questions raised about whether President Obama was born in the United States or Kenya. We have not checked sources, but there are reports that some witnessed his birth in Kenya.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The President&#039;s campaign staff and then his administration have released and placed on the internet a &quot;Certificate of Live Birth.&quot; We do not dispute the validity or correctness of that document as others have tried to do, suggesting the use of computers to alter seals and names. By releasing this document the President agrees that the claims about his status as a natural born citizen is an open, important, public issue.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, this &quot;Certificate of Live Birth&quot; is simply not the best evidence that the President and his administration could offer to lay to rest any doubt about his status as a natural born citizen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barack Obama is a lawyer and a graduate of Harvard Law School. All law students study the body of law we call &quot;Evidence.&quot; One of the core tenets of American law is the &quot;best evidence rule&quot; which requires the production of original, or certified copies, of original document to prove a fact. Abstracts and summaries are not original documents.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The President has offered an abstract (Certificate) of his birth, but not an original birth certificate which would be the best evidence of his birth. We need the best evidence so that it can do what the best evidence is meant to do; dispel the doubts about a fact. We need to see the Birth Certificate. That&#039;s the one that is often handwritten and signed by the doctor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lawyers and legal thinkers will, obviously, argue the finer points of the &quot;Best Evidence Rule&quot; and its applicability to this matter. But, that misses the point. The notion of &quot;Best Evidence&quot; is solidly-grounded in law. This is an important public matter and it seems now that the President has started down the path of offering some evidence (Certificate of Live Birth), he should offer the &quot;best evidence&quot; (Original Birth Certificate) which is the source document for his birth. The document behind the document which has been released. This is what is needed now in the court of public knowledge.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The fact in question here is the constitutional qualification of the President of the United States to hold office. With a simple nod, the President could offer the American people the best evidence, the source document(s), as he learned about at Harvard, and dispel those who question his birth as a natural born citizen. His failure to provide this best evidence, when it could be so easily done, raises only more questions, which fuels an ugly public debate.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And now we&#039;ve got a &quot;Liberal&quot; Nebraska newspaper advising Barry to cough up his birth certificate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If he can. Anybody ready to hear our TelePrompTer-in-Chief taking the Fifth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#39;s getting out into the drive-by media now.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://nebraska.statepaper.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2009/08/05/4a79c4716da39" rel="nofollow">David Hahn</a>, &#8220;Publisher, <a href="http://StatePaper.com" rel="nofollow">StatePaper.com</a> &#8221; August 5, 2009.</p>
<p><b>Publisher: Obama Should Produce Original Birth Certificate</b></p>
<p>At <a href="http://StatePaper.com" rel="nofollow">StatePaper.com</a>, we know by making this statement we will be instantly tagged as &#8220;racist,&#8221; &#8220;birther,&#8221; or other pejorative terms by those who defend the President of the United States. We often defend the President and the job he is doing and are regularly lambasted for being &#8220;too liberal&#8221; or an &#8220;Obama lover&#8221; by some of our most prolific critics.</p>
<p>But, here is the issue:</p>
<p>The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of our country. Article II of the Constitution requires the President to be a natural born citizen. Without reciting them here, there appears to be some serious questions raised about whether President Obama was born in the United States or Kenya. We have not checked sources, but there are reports that some witnessed his birth in Kenya.</p>
<p>The President&#39;s campaign staff and then his administration have released and placed on the internet a &#8220;Certificate of Live Birth.&#8221; We do not dispute the validity or correctness of that document as others have tried to do, suggesting the use of computers to alter seals and names. By releasing this document the President agrees that the claims about his status as a natural born citizen is an open, important, public issue.</p>
<p>But, this &#8220;Certificate of Live Birth&#8221; is simply not the best evidence that the President and his administration could offer to lay to rest any doubt about his status as a natural born citizen.</p>
<p>Barack Obama is a lawyer and a graduate of Harvard Law School. All law students study the body of law we call &#8220;Evidence.&#8221; One of the core tenets of American law is the &#8220;best evidence rule&#8221; which requires the production of original, or certified copies, of original document to prove a fact. Abstracts and summaries are not original documents.</p>
<p>The President has offered an abstract (Certificate) of his birth, but not an original birth certificate which would be the best evidence of his birth. We need the best evidence so that it can do what the best evidence is meant to do; dispel the doubts about a fact. We need to see the Birth Certificate. That&#39;s the one that is often handwritten and signed by the doctor.</p>
<p>Lawyers and legal thinkers will, obviously, argue the finer points of the &#8220;Best Evidence Rule&#8221; and its applicability to this matter. But, that misses the point. The notion of &#8220;Best Evidence&#8221; is solidly-grounded in law. This is an important public matter and it seems now that the President has started down the path of offering some evidence (Certificate of Live Birth), he should offer the &#8220;best evidence&#8221; (Original Birth Certificate) which is the source document for his birth. The document behind the document which has been released. This is what is needed now in the court of public knowledge.</p>
<p>The fact in question here is the constitutional qualification of the President of the United States to hold office. With a simple nod, the President could offer the American people the best evidence, the source document(s), as he learned about at Harvard, and dispel those who question his birth as a natural born citizen. His failure to provide this best evidence, when it could be so easily done, raises only more questions, which fuels an ugly public debate.</p>
<p>And now we&#39;ve got a &#8220;Liberal&#8221; Nebraska newspaper advising Barry to cough up his birth certificate.</p>
<p>If he can. Anybody ready to hear our TelePrompTer-in-Chief taking the Fifth?</p>
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		<title>By: No, it really is the Republicans who are pushing this nonsense &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/53211/tulsa-newspaper-slams-jim-inhofe-on-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-60542</link>
		<dc:creator>No, it really is the Republicans who are pushing this nonsense &#124; The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] respectable conservative pundits at National Review, and spawned a &#8216;birther bill&#8217; that is now sponsored by several prominent conservative legislators. But other than that, the whole movement is basically [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] respectable conservative pundits at National Review, and spawned a &#8216;birther bill&#8217; that is now sponsored by several prominent conservative legislators. But other than that, the whole movement is basically [...]</p>
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		<title>By: euphgeek</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/53211/tulsa-newspaper-slams-jim-inhofe-on-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-56752</link>
		<dc:creator>euphgeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 05:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say what you want, but you still can&#039;t point to a single law Obama is breaking by not showing his birth certificate to the general public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what you want, but you still can&#39;t point to a single law Obama is breaking by not showing his birth certificate to the general public.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuci78</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/53211/tulsa-newspaper-slams-jim-inhofe-on-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-56745</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuci78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 05:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, sure, shitbag. And up is down, hot is cold, and Barry Soetoro is &quot;transparent.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, sure, shitbag. And up is down, hot is cold, and Barry Soetoro is &#8220;transparent.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: euphgeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>euphgeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 05:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Good enough&quot; is a matter of fact.  And the fact is that you can&#039;t point to a single law Obama is breaking by not releasing his birth certificate to the general public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Good enough&#8221; is a matter of fact.  And the fact is that you can&#39;t point to a single law Obama is breaking by not releasing his birth certificate to the general public.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuci78</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/53211/tulsa-newspaper-slams-jim-inhofe-on-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-56737</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuci78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 05:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, &quot;good enough&quot; is a matter of perspective, isn&#039;t it, geek?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t you remember all those Republicans yelling that the allegations associated with the Watergate break-in weren&#039;t &quot;good enough&quot; to run Slippery Dick out of Washington City?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jeez, these Obamaphiles got nothing even remotely resembling a sense of historical perspective, have they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, &#8220;good enough&#8221; is a matter of perspective, isn&#39;t it, geek?</p>
<p>Don&#39;t you remember all those Republicans yelling that the allegations associated with the Watergate break-in weren&#39;t &#8220;good enough&#8221; to run Slippery Dick out of Washington City?</p>
<p>Jeez, these Obamaphiles got nothing even remotely resembling a sense of historical perspective, have they?</p>
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		<title>By: euphgeek</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/53211/tulsa-newspaper-slams-jim-inhofe-on-birthers/comment-page-1#comment-56734</link>
		<dc:creator>euphgeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well at least you&#039;re trying.  Unfortunately for you, it&#039;s not good enough.  Nowhere in there does it say that the president has to present his birth certificate to the general public.  Would you like to try again, or would you just like to continue to insult me in the mistaken belief that will somehow make you right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well at least you&#39;re trying.  Unfortunately for you, it&#39;s not good enough.  Nowhere in there does it say that the president has to present his birth certificate to the general public.  Would you like to try again, or would you just like to continue to insult me in the mistaken belief that will somehow make you right?</p>
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		<title>By: mantis</title>
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		<dc:creator>mantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hey, who has to invent, little arthropod?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You, for one.  Constantly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hey, who has to invent, little arthropod?</i></p>
<p>You, for one.  Constantly.</p>
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