Joe Scarborough: Glenn Beck Now Worse Than the Dixie Chicks

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 11:30 am

The MSNBC host wasn’t in the studio today when his show’s pundits pulled apart Glenn Beck’s remarks that President Obama is a “racist” with “deep-seated hatred for white people.” (Beck also smeared “green jobs czar” Van Jones as a “communist.”) But he’s tweeting about it:

Conservatives attacked the Dixie Chicks for saying much less about President Bush than what Beck said about President Obama.

Scarborough has some credibility here, because he wasn’t always so sanguine about the Dixie Chicks “controversy.”

At a 2003 concert in London, the Chicks’s lead singer/songwriter Natalie Maines said that they were “ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas.” That controversy coincided with the opening weeks of the former congressman’s first show, “Scarborough Country,” and Scarborough pounded the country singers relentlessly for having the audacity to attack George W. Bush. From the March 14, 2003 edition of the show:

It appears the Dixie Chicks are short on southern hospitality when it comes to their southern president. They told fans in England they were ashamed of the president and now their fans ashamed of them.

It’s just the latest incident where celebrities are offending their fans by spouting anti-American agendas. And we’ve seen a parade of Hollywood elites take to the airwaves to dis the war.

But tonight, a refreshing change. You know my next guest, actor Eric Braeden, as Victor Newman from the CBS daytime drama, “The Young and The Restless.”

It went on for weeks. From the April 24, 2003 edition of the show, attacking the singers for appearing on the cover of “Entertainment Weekly” in the nude:

Natalie, we ain’t so proud of you. The Chicks’ outrageous squawk sent their No. 1 single “Travelin’ Soldier” traveling right off the charts. And sales of their album dropped like a lead egg. Radio stations boycotted the Chicks’ music. And they began molting under the commercial pressure. First, they released a boilerplate statement acknowledging that they were disrespectful. But they kept after President Bush for his so-called rush to war.

This was a key moment in the early 2000s culture wars, and Scarborough covered it every time he had an excuse to. On a Sept. 12, 2006 episode of “Scarborough Country,” the host plugged one upcoming segment as “The Dixie Chicks’s stunning new attack on George W. Bush, stunning only because it is such bad PR! Shut up and sing, baby! Shut up and sing!” In the segment, about Natalie Maines calling President Bush a “dumb f**k,” Scarborough gloated at their lack of country radio success.

You’re talking about the leader of the free world, who got reelected by the largest vote count ever in our history. And about the same time, the Dixie checks stopped being able to fill arenas in huge cities like Houston, Texas. So who`s the real dumb — did you say puck? Who`s the real dump person here? I have to use that.

So, now Scarborough is saying what Beck said was more offensive than what Maines said. Will we see weeks of coverage of Beck’s comment on Scarborough’s morning show? Will he book people who want to punish Beck, as he booked country singers, actors, and radio hosts who were attacking Maines?


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Phreedom
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 3:47 pm

Who's Joe Scarborough? That guy on MSNBC with 10 viewers a night?


jordy2009
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 3:56 pm

I used to listen to Chris Plante on WABC…….. when Scarborough was hired I stopped listening to that station…….. he's a putz…….. and yes, Glen Beck is absolutely right….Obama is a racist street THUG!!!!


austin
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 4:11 pm

It is a shame how FOX News is allowing its host to insult the President. I thought Beck was an educated guy. You are just making the Republican Party and Fox News look like enemies of progress.


johnwisemanasdf
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 4:12 pm

Interesting point the story leaves out is that Glenn Beck actually defends people (such as the Dixie Chicks) who criticize our government because as he believes being critical of our government is not “un- American, it’s as American as it gets.” While I disagree with both the Dixie Chicks and Glenn Beck's comments, I hope we always live in a country where such comments are allowed to be made.


ziploked
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 4:38 pm

Beck: “I'm not saying he doesn't like white people, I'm saying he has a problem,” Beck said. “This guy is, I believe, a racist.”

Definition of racist:
1. (n) a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others
2. (adj.sat.) discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion
3. (adj.sat.) based on racial intolerance; “racist remarks”

So exactly what the hell was Beck talking about? Exactly whom is Obama acting racist toward, and how?

Beck will say anything, absolutely anything, to get attention. This is the same guy who said, “Believe in something! Even if it's wrong. Believe in it!” That should be the official motto of the Birthers, and he might as well be their fearless leader.


nellpost
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 5:10 pm

glenbeck has push the pale as far as he can, to date, for RATINGS. What a jerk.


nellpost
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 5:11 pm

jordy…hate is a bad thing.


Sandi
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 5:35 pm

… “It is a shame how FOX News is allowing its host to insult the President. I thought Beck was an educated guy. You are just making the Republican Party and Fox News look like enemies of progress”

… bah-hah-hah!!! This is a joke, correct? C'mon, how about every other liberal slanted media outlet that constantly/consistenly attacked President Bush! Why is it that Republicans/Conservatives/Independents, etc. are not allowed to voice any negative view of “The Messiah” and yet all liberals had a free-for-all with President Bush – ??? Really, what is the difference?

The far left media has continued, and still will, supporting the far left agenda. What happened with the Dixie Chicks is that AMERICANS took action. These same Americans still have that option (for now, but our country in quickly changing). Any American may stop watching Glenn Beck, or Fox News any time they want to. For now, they can still get up off their duffs (I know, don't whine, it'll mean physical movement) and turn off the tv (oh my goodness though, who will make that decision for them, are they capable enough to think this one through??? (Just poking fun at how silly our country is getting when it comes to personal responsibilty)). I will not take the action as described above as I believe FOX is truly the ONLY fair and balanced media outlet there is. I may not always agree with everything to be viewed, however the overall bigger picture with FOX is dead on and a breath of fresh air. Also, I very much enjoy Glenn Beck. Mr. beck, if you, and your family, are ever visiting in Troy, Ohio, please accept an offer to stay over in our home – everyone in town knows of a former B&B, The HW Allen Home. It is now our private residence and you are always welcome here!

Interesting article above.

Sincerely,
Sandi F.


Jim
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 5:36 pm

Glenn Beck speaks the truth, if you are afraid of it, then join the Black Pied Piper & all of his loyal minions of “Change”. How petty to think that all Americans who voted for change thought they would get because this man is BLACK.

The dumbing down of America continues. stay tuned!!


Sandi
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 5:36 pm

… “It is a shame how FOX News is allowing its host to insult the President. I thought Beck was an educated guy. You are just making the Republican Party and Fox News look like enemies of progress” … bah-hah-hah!!! This is a joke, correct? C'mon, how about every other liberal slanted media outlet that constantly/consistenly attacked President Bush! Why is it that Republicans/Conservatives/Independents, etc. are not allowed to voice any negative view of “The Messiah” and yet all liberals had a free-for-all with President Bush – ??? Really, what is the difference? The far left media has continued, and still will, supporting the far left agenda. What happened with the Dixie Chicks is that AMERICANS took action. These same Americans still have that option (for now, but our country in quickly changing). Any American may stop watching Glenn Beck, or Fox News any time they want to. For now, they can still get up off their duffs (I know, don't whine, it'll mean physical movement) and turn off the tv (oh my goodness though, who will make that decision for them, are they capable enough to think this one through??? (Just poking fun at how silly our country is getting when it comes to personal responsibilty)). I will not take the action as described above as I believe FOX is truly the ONLY fair and balanced media outlet there is. I may not always agree with everything to be viewed, however the overall bigger picture with FOX is dead on and a breath of fresh air. Also, I very much enjoy Glenn Beck. Mr. beck, if you, and your family, are ever visiting in Troy, Ohio, please accept an offer to stay over in our home – everyone in town knows of a former B&B, The HW Allen Home. It is now our private residence and you are always welcome here! Interesting article above. Sincerely, Sandi F.


allright
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 6:00 pm

Most blacks are racist, more so than whites are, the sooner you learn this, the better off you will be


Steveo777
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 6:06 pm

Glenn Beck exposed the President by quoting Obama's own words. By their deeds you shall know them. Nothing more needs to be said. Hey Joe, let's see where this country is 8 years. You won't recognize it. I hope you have children and they have to go to Obama's work camps.


B
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 6:09 pm

I can't believe I actually read this junk. No, sir, not worse. Better. The band, Dixie Chicks, was following every other media-involved group (aka riding that Hollywood bandwagon). Glenn Beck, no matter what he says, is speaking about what he BELIEVES in. Not to mention, he's willing to stick his own neck out, and go against “Obama Mania”. Beck wins even though I don't agree with everything he says. Sorry to hurt your feelings, but if it helps, I don't expect better opinions to come out of Washington anyways. I will still be boycotting the Dixie Chicks. I will still be open-minded concerning Beck. All of you who voted for a racist, ignorant man to lead us all, I hope you're enjoying the downwards spiral. By the way, it's lying when one promises to lower taxes then raises them. It's funny. Bush may have wanted oil in the Middle East, maybe,… but Obama wants to be a part of the Middle East. Scarborough, try to find something you're good at. When it comes to reporting news, you, sir, are a failure. Have a good day.


angryinnyc
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 6:19 pm

Glenn Beck is an IDIOT plain and simple. He will just go on the air sayig that he didnt say it that way just like he got busted on the view. I may not agree with Joe Scarborough most of the time but he hit the nail right on the head. How is Obama a racist and HE IS HALF WHITE and was raised by a WHITE MOTHER AND WHITE GRANDPARENTS!

It is so funny how some of you so called Proud Americans are so quick to hide behind your computer screens and type all kinds of racist things but how many of you will go out in public and say it? Some of you need to take your act on the road and move out of the great country of ours! And they say race relations have gotten better in this country? Barack Obama won the Presidenticy GET THE HELL OVER IT ALL READY. The rest of the world is laughing at us because we are more focused on Idiots like Glenn Beck and Racist news channels like Fox News! We need to be more focused on more important issues like health care and the economy!


Matthew Vadum
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 6:27 pm

You can defend Van Jones if you want but how exactly is calling him a “communist” a smear?

Van Jones described himself as a communist in an interview with East Bay Express in 2005, which I have excerpted below. Later in the article it states, “Jones began transforming his politics and work in the aftermath of a crisis that coincided with the primary election in March 2000.” It doesn't say his political beliefs and ideals changed; rather, it says he decided a new strategy was needed. He became a community organizer, of course.

Read it for yourself:

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/ebx/PrintFriendly…

Jones had planned to move to Washington, DC, and had already landed a job and an apartment there. But in jail, he said, “I met all these young radical people of color — I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.'” Although he already had a plane ticket, he decided to stay in San Francisco. “I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary.” In the months that followed, he let go of any lingering thoughts that he might fit in with the status quo. “I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th,” he said. “By August, I was a communist.”

In 1994, the young activists formed a socialist collective, Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement, or STORM, which held study groups on the theories of Marx and Lenin and dreamed of a multiracial socialist utopia. They protested police brutality and got arrested for crashing through police barricades. [...]


allright
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 6:40 pm

The rest of the world is laughing at us because you elected a socialist,(I don't care what color his skin is) something we have been fighting since WW1


Patrick
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 6:48 pm

When “W” was in office, if anyone even hinted at not agreeing with him, they were “anti-American”. I wrote some anti Bush letters in my local newspaper and a conservative tracked me down and threatened my life>>just for voicing my opinion. I did not even come close to what Glenn Beck said. Beck is one of the biggest whack jobs out there. Liberals put up with Bush in office for 8 years and Obama has not been in office 8 months and the conservative/Repulican/Christian movement won't allow him to clean up the 8 year mess left behind from Cheney/Bush. Beck has the right to say what he wants. But, if the conservatives want to tear down Obama, can't they be more rational with their comments? When my life was threatened (after a letter about the disaster of Katrina), I stopped my letter writing. I never called Bush a racist, I just wrote about the lack of care and how slow Bush & Company responded. It was interesting how Bush treated states with Republican governors better during the Katrina disaster! Anyway, everybody needs to calm down. Maybe all of this will help our country come out of it's racism and we can start to get along better. I am a white guy and am sick of conservative old white men representing me.


strangely_enough
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 6:49 pm

“The dumbing down of America continues.”

Res ipsa loquitur…


strangely_enough
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 6:52 pm

That's not why they are laughing at you…


strangely_enough
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 6:53 pm

Most rednecks are idiots. Thanks for proving that.


angryinnyc
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 6:54 pm

Please…A socialist???? So try to improve this country from which George Bush left it in is socialism? Why because he wants a health care system that will help most americans get the health coverage they need among other things? It seems like its either the Republican Way or your a socialist! Pretty Sad!


Sandi
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 6:58 pm

Is your name really angry? I'm sorry. Well, mine is really Sandi … Sandi F. that is, just as I posted below, along with my home town. I'm not trying to hide anything. That is why I posted my first name and last intitial, along with my home town. So who is doing the hiding here? Anyway …

I am really concerned for this great country of ours (I agree with you there). The article above is about racism, and Obama had a knee-jerk reaction, spoke too soon, showed some more true feelings of his heart. What the DC said wasn't even racist, so I'm not completely sure of Scareborough's comparions/point. Therefore, I posted from the point of view that (FOR NOW) we all have the right to our opinions and most media outlets are heavily leaning left. I do not agree with Obamamania politics or the direction he is taking this country. Plain and simple. I also am not concerned about his skin color. Skin color should never matter – however following our constituition and laws should matter much, and O does not follow them, nor the people/groups he associates with. I truly am convinced O is racist, and a socialist (totalling changing our country against what it was built upon). And like you “earthly” pointed out (bad language is not in good taste), get over it. I am over it. Still, I have my opinions and a deep love for this country and those who believe enough in it to fight and die for it. So I will be active, will be watching, and very much believe in accountability.

So, who are you?

Sincerely,
Sandi F.


strangely_enough
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 7:01 pm

“C'mon, how about every other liberal slanted media outlet that constantly/consistenly attacked President Bush! “
Really? Which ones? The ones on TV just kept presenting retired officers with Pentagon contracts telling us that we had to go to war because of WMD, and that Bush was a good president and criticizing him was “un-american.” That “liberal media?”
“Why is it that Republicans/Conservatives/Independents, etc. are not allowed to voice any negative view of “The Messiah” and yet all liberals had a free-for-all with President Bush – ???”
You mean the ones trying to legitimize the birther nonsense? The ones that seem to have more GOP talking heads than not?


stoogeman
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 7:03 pm

Glenn Beck was 25 when Bush the Elder started Gulf War #1, to “save Kuwait for democracy.” Beck did not support the troops by running off to Iraq. Why? Because he is a Chicken Hawk, which is the lowest type of hypocrite. Chicken Hawks have no credibility. We should not even be showing them on TV. WPE = Worst President Ever


greglandecker
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 7:04 pm

poo poo pee pee. it's not really about black or white any more. It's about rich and the rest, suckas.


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Sandi
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 7:11 pm

I can identify Patrick … our community culteral-center had a display that leaned totally one way, right before the big election last fall. I felt both parties should be represented, I mean it is a non-profit center and this was a big election year. I ended up on the front page of our newspaper (not once, NOT ONCE did I ever identify the party supported by the display nor mention the party left out. Nor did I ever identify myself with the party I align with) and wow! Did the ugliness start. Before 9:00am the morning the story broke our phone started ringing and the first caller didn't idenitfy themself and gave my husband grief about keeping his wife busy and who do I think I am, etc, etc. Well, thank goodness for Caller ID and when hubby used this man's name and asked what said man was doing for the poor, he started stuttering and hung up! The rest of the callers identified themselves and then supported me. Interesting. Then the letters, so wonderful! Really. Except this one that didn't have a return address and threatened me! So, though you & I are on differing sides, I agree that opinions should never be handled in manner you and I have experienced. And I'm sorry to read that you too have gone through what I did. I am a white woman, with friends of many colors/nationality backgrounds. I'm simply concerned of the candidates experience and ability, doesn't matter if their old white men (your comment is disturbing), nor young men of any color …

Thanks for weighing in, and using your name.

Sincerely,
Sandi


bobmarleyjamaicaman
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 7:14 pm

Who is Joe Scarborough?


angryinnycnangryinnyc
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 7:16 pm

Well EXCUSE Me Sandi F. You are one brave soul for puttng your “name ” Im guessing your the only one out there with that name Congratulations!!!! Unless you know what it is like being a victim of racism in this country…You will never know what its like. I am a black woman who was been stopped by the police in the very neighborhood (the upper westside of manhattan) I live in for no reason at all! As for your most media outlets are heavily leaning left…NOT TRUE.. CNN and MSNBC have a mixture of right and left! Name me 2 “liberal” programs on Fox News. I am a person who also fought in the country as an ex marine! Again how is President Obama (or O as you call him) a racist when most of his cabinet members are white and OH YEAH half his family is white? So miss grammar correcting 101 why dont you give this President a chance instead of tearing him down after less than a year in office! So Sandi F. Thank you for your opinion!


kkewt
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 7:29 pm

Ignorant Americans are very sad. You all throw around the word “socialism” and you don't even understand what the concept means. Sad.


Meg
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 7:31 pm

We'll find out who the decent conservatives are as opposed to the nutcases; the nuts will support the self-destructive, ludicrous behavior of Glenn Beck and his ilk.

As for Natalie Maines, the Dixie Chicks have made a pretty good comeback both in commercial success and the wisdom of history. Most of the country now agrees that President Bush did a horrible job. Free speech extends, yes, even to the Dixie Chicks. And…it turns out she was correct plus ahead of her time.


Rob
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 7:45 pm

When there is a commercial break on Fox in the morning I turn to MSNBC to watch Joe be the token RINO paired with the communist Brezinski… it is like poking at a cavity in my tooth with my tounge.. it hurts, but I keep doing it. Those MSNBC people are sure on the opposite side of the world from where I live…


marlys
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 7:48 pm

“Obama is a racist street THUG.”

I am 72 years old and have never heard a more absurd, ignorant, pathetic statement in my entire life.


AShepard
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 8:23 pm

Glen Beck isn't speaking what he believes. Glen Beck is trying to get ratings. He's a poor man's Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity swimming in an over-crowded “conservative” pool. None of these guys (Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Beck, etc) believe half of what they say. They are just trying to sell their shows and the coffee mugs and the tee shirts and the books and anything else they can peddle. None of them give a rats you know what about the many lemmings that hang on their every word and buy into and just plain buy their crap. It’s a business for these guys… nothing more, nothing less. They are only good at one thing… making people afraid and than financially capitalizing on that fear. So all of you out there who agree with Beck and his ilk I would simply remind you of what Thomas Tusser said, “A fool and his money are soon parted”.


AShepard
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 8:25 pm

Can you see Russia from where you are?


AShepard
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 8:33 pm

And of course you can name one socialist program he has implemented since taking office… right?


ANDRE B.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 8:48 pm

This is very sad.Someone called the prez a racist…Wow!!!


brenda
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 9:34 pm

why does obama consider himself black???


lcamp
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 10:18 pm

Wow this is real powerful, a tv comminator call a sitting president a racist talking about disrespect wow what big ball this guy have.


lcamp
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 10:20 pm

Why do fox and friends sit through this are you racist too?


lyndahaymond
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 10:23 pm

That's a really dumb question! He is what he is. Should he consider himself caucasian? Have you seen him lately? Here's a nuggett. Every african-american in this country is mixed with caucasian heritage due to the ancestory of slavery in this country. There are members of my family who could pass for white, but will tell you instantly that they are black. Since the beginning of this country, it has been the mindset of white america, that anyone who has a drop of black blood, is indeed black. We have never been accepted as a white person who's half black, but as a black person with white heritage.


allright
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 10:31 pm

angryinnyc

Here is why he is a socialist : http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=78330

Oh and I am not a republican, I am an independent, I have no great love for either party since they have allowed the federal reserve to be run by private bankers, or how they let they're thugs (IRS) steal peoples money and ignore the separation of powers that is supposed to be implemented


StewartIII
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 10:33 pm

ChickaBOOMer: Glenn Livid
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2009/07/glenn-…


allright
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 10:36 pm

?????? ????? ????


jeanmcdermott
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 11:27 pm

My experience watching Scarborough has been very positive. I think he has his head on straight and tries to be fair. I also think Glenn Beck is on the right path. His book “common sense” is awesome! Read it. You won't regret it. Anything that gets that dufuss ( his highness obama) out of office stripping his support is a good thing. Down with Barack the Bumbler. He is a total ego maniac. I wish joe would run for office.


allright
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 11:37 pm

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=78330


Scott P.
Comment posted July 29, 2009 @ 11:40 pm

Sandi,

I never really respond to these things online, but you seem pretty open minded despite the fact that our political ideologies certainly fall on different sides of the aisle, so I thought I might chime in.

You bring up that Obama doesn't follow the constitution or our laws, and that it's something which concerns you. First, what part of the constitution and what specific laws are you referring to? Were you equally concerned in 2005 when it came to light that the Bush administration had begun wiretapping American citizens without warrants? My guess is that 9/10 people who have had a civics class and can remember the Bill of Rights would tell you that this was a blatant violation of the Fourth Amendment of our constitution (I am assuming you backed Bush given that you are anti-Obama, my apologies if my assumption is incorrect).

I would also like to know what truly convinces you that our president is a racist (besides Jeremiah Wright). You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and I will not tell you that you are wrong for believing it, but I can't wrap my head around your belief and would like a little insight.

Thanks,
Scott P.


allright
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 12:13 am

National debt hits record $11 trillion The whopping number has major ramifications for President Barack Obama, who is trying to push through a raft of big-ticket bills on health care, energy, education and climate change — while also attempting to stabilize the swooning economy.


angryinnyc
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 2:26 am

OK…You really want credibility on why you believe Barack Obama is a socialist by posting an article from the Right Wing Conservative site World Net Daily???? Are u serious!


Mrs. WEL
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:00 am

I am so sorry you thought that Glen Beck was an educated guy. Check the information on this guy. He has a high school diploma and a few days in college before getting kicked or dropped out. I have noticed that the formally UNEDUCATED ones such as Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh (all only high school graduates), have a problem with educated African-Americans. I am sure they consider educated African-Americans as uppity, and they feel threatened because they know that they only have their jobs based upon ONE qualification–they are White. It is so sad that FOX will continue to allow this type of ignorance continue. I guess Lou Dobbs will be heading to FOX soon. His rhetoric fits in with their programs. Fair minded Americans will start targeting the sponsors of shows such as Beck, Hannity and others who are blatantly disrespecting the leader of this country. It's one thing to freely state your opinion, but it is down right fear mongering to do what these NUTS are allowed to do under the banner of free speach!.


landalious
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 4:15 am

As a black man, I would have to say that Joe is off the mark here. There is a problem with Obama's circle of friends as Glen Beck stated. Anyone with an IQ higher than 50 would have to at LEAST see it from that angle…

If G.W. Bush appointed David Duke as a Czar of some kind and went to a White Power church for 10+ years, and was friends with a kkk professor, what do you honestly think people would assume and would be rightly so…

Why should Obama be treated any differently? Because he is black? That's reverse racisim and prejudice!!!

I think Obama has some rooted racisim, and there are many black people who voted for him who now regret it!!!


andrea24x7
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:23 am

I am a conservative but am *SO* ashamed sometimes to live in this greatest country on this planet. Reading comments from Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, etc. makes me so sad to even be associated in any way with these characters. Since when does being a good Christian equate to parading your kids in your political favor before elections and then blaming the media later when you've lost the elections. Or when you're a convicted prescription meds addict and yet deride those who are addicts but are conveniently not the same skin color?
Glen Beck is simply a closet racist and needs to get back to his KKK roots and not associate himself with us normal loving conservatives. Don't make money off of us, your racist! Your parents didn't raise you right!


NoMoreFour
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:23 am

LOL…black man…right!


Tuci78
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 7:38 am

Well, I'm not a conservative, and I'm just DELIGHTED that “this greatest country on this planet” is graced by people in the broadcast media like Glenn Beck (who dissects Barry Soetoro and his Marxist machinations so persistently and so exquisitely) and Sarah Palin (who isn't afraid to call “global warming” the pile of bullshit it most assuredly is).

And, andrea, you're the (not-so-closeted) “racist” yourself if you think that being half-white, some big amount Arab slave trader, and some bitty-bit Luo tribesman makes Barry Soetoro somehow sacrosanct.

It isn't his cutaneous melanin content they're hacking on, you silly oaf, but his socialism.

Jeez, why can'tcha be color-blind, chickie? Haven't you heard? We're in “post-racial America.”


karlmarxo
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 11:54 am

No bid government contracts. Would that be socialism or capitalism? I didnt hear any of the right wing whiners complaining about that. Hey Guess what? Palin didnt get into the White House and she never will. Get over it.


sherrimurphy
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 1:04 pm

where will Beck's hate mongering end? Does he want a race war? there was a German Guy back in the 1930s who started this way. Did we not learn anything from men with no intellegence resorting to this type of agenda? Is this the only way Republicans can build up their numbers? It is both pathetic for the GOP and dangerous for the country. Lock this looney up before he does irrevocable damage.


MilliJoolz
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 1:15 pm

Yeah, right, uhuh.. can I see a BC please?


B.J.
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 1:19 pm

Had Obama not intended to make demeaning commentary about the white policeman and then call attention to racial profiling he would be less likely to be labeled as Beck courageously did, and had Obama not lied about realizing his mentor reverend Wright's hostility toward the white race, an obvious lie overlooked in the zealotry, he would not be labeled in this way. Beck's comments have a logic that the emotionally locked and partisan will twist to denigrate him.
Just in case you think I've called Obama a racist, I think Obama knows how to rise above racism, but should be careful when tempted by his emotional allegiance because it will drag him down where a logical label can be voiced, oversimplified as it was. Commenting, perhaps even coaching a perception, on the Gates racial berating of a white police officer, without the facts was an emotionally influenced choice on Obama's part. Emotional choices and racial siding make the racist label more logical, even if oversimplified. I think MSNBC with the neurotic Matthews cunningly coaching loaded ways to perceive as the only definition of what's happening, and Olbermann serving hatred continually, and this thick and ponderous Joe show guy mouthing off invective is far worse than Beck.


Bland
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 1:20 pm

Had Obama not intended to make demeaning commentary about the white policeman and then call attention to racial profiling he would be less likely to be labeled as Beck courageously did, and had Obama not lied about realizing his mentor reverend Wright's hostility toward the white race, an obvious lie overlooked in the zealotry, he would not be labeled in this way. Beck's comments have a logic that the emotionally locked and partisan will twist to denigrate him.
Just in case you think I've called Obama a racist, I think Obama knows how to rise above racism, but should be careful when tempted by his emotional allegiance because it will drag him down where a logical label can be voiced, oversimplified as it was. Commenting, perhaps even coaching a perception, on the Gates racial berating of a white police officer, without the facts was an emotionally influenced choice on Obama's part. Emotional choices and racial siding make the racist label more logical, even if oversimplified. I think MSNBC with the neurotic Matthews cunningly coaching loaded ways to perceive as the only definition of what's happening, and Olbermann serving hatred continually, and this thick and ponderous Joe show guy mouthing off invective is far worse than Beck.


politicalchef
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 2:02 pm

Stoogeman, Glenn was also a drunk and druggie when the first gulf war started…I don't think he would have been accepted into the service had HE CHOSE to. It's my understanding that a question is asked of each new inductee if they have every used drugs and if the question is answered in the affirmative, they are not accepted into the service.
Anyone who took Clinton to task for not serving in the military was quickly shut down by his supporters because it was not relevant to the narrative they wanted put forth. At least have some intellectual honesty to treat everyone with the same standards. People with no intellectual honesty have no credibility. Bashing someone for not serving only serves the purpose when it presumed to score points for a particular position.


politicalchef
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 2:08 pm

Sandi,
I think we still live in America where free speech is still accepted. Again have the intellectual honesty to use the same standard for everyone. Anyone who called Clinton unpatriotic was shouted down by his supporters. It was pointed out that patriotism was shown by dissention. Opinion is still a valid form of expression in the U.S. is it not? Why is it OK for Bushbashers to be able to go on the airwaves and call him a Nazi or a Facists, but Beck is not allowed the same latitude to express his opinion? I see little difference between politicians these days regardless of which side of the aisle they sit on. I plan on not being blinded by party dogma and thinking for myself.


politicalchef
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 2:12 pm

Ok, just because you were raised by one group race of people does not preclude you from developing counter-prejudices from your upbringing. So let me get this straight, it's ok for you to call Fox News and Beck a racists, but it's not ok for Beck to call someone a racists? Intellectual honesty people!!


kristopher007
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 2:45 pm

I agree with beck.


Name
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:21 pm

You're an idiot!


Joe_Blow
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:22 pm

You're an idiot, too!


Joe_Blow
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:26 pm

It's been said that if you are a racist, your are more than likely a republican (i.e., conservative)…Too bad a moderate (and wise) voice like Colin Powell is often drummed out by the idiots on the fringe right…


Joe_Blow
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:27 pm

I'm with you, what a joke!!!!!


Joe_Blow
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:29 pm

Here's honesty–you're an idiot!!!! How's that?!


Joe_Blow
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:30 pm

YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!


Joe_Blow
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:31 pm

YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!


Tuci78
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:37 pm

“No-bid government contracts,” marxist? That'd be mercantalism or something like that. Y'see, “capitalism” is a term cooked up by Engels and Marx as a pejorative for what had been known up until that time merely as “the free market,” as in “free of popularity contest winners, bureaucrats, monarchs, thugs, and other tyrants picking winners.”

Going “either/or” on “socialism of capitalism” is what's called “the fallacy of the false dilemma.”

What, as innocent of logic as you are of economics?


andrea24x7
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:40 pm

God help you Tuci78! You're lost. Nice vocabulary though. Still doesn't cover up how damaged you are.


Glenpecked
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:40 pm

I don't know why we're so afraid of people's opinions. I don't see much case for Obama being a racist, but I take it as his honest belief and I'm fine with it.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:41 pm

I think what Glenn Beck is trying for, sherri, is a war upon socialists, transnational progressives (“Tranzis”), illegal immigrants, thieves, the Democrat Party, and other criminals.

Not an altogether bad idea, mind, but I'm personally more of a peaceable inclination. I'll just settle back and watch, I think. I've got a couple of shovels and a sack of quicklime, though. When he's done, somebody's gonna have to help bury the corpses.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:42 pm

Lost? Me? Nah! Where there's life, there's hope (Dum spiro, spero), y'know.

And while there are “Liberals” still sucking air, there's always a target.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:49 pm

Not unless he's somewhere in Alaska. Which is the point of perspective whence Sarah Palin – as governor of the state and commander-in-chief of the Alaskan National Guard (which is tasked with keeping an operational eye on the Russians, just as they did upon the old Soviet Empire) – was speaking when she made that statement you dumb-as-dung “LIberals” never have seemed able to get.

Hm. Now what does that tell us about these “Liberal” assholes, boys and girls?


landalious
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 3:55 pm

I guess you have a hard time believing a black person could actually make judgements based on actions, words, and the friends one keeps vs. the color of ones skin. Then ya'll are displaying racisim here. You just prove my point…

“Can't be a black man postin here cause he don't like Obama anymore” or “Can't be black because he can see Glenn's point of view” Shhhh…..

If you think all black people like Obama or that all black people support the New Black Panther Party, eat watermelon and fried chicken, then you are racist!!! I guess a black man can't think for himself now could he and just has to be a Obama-zombie then…

Again, your being racist!!! I can think for myself and there are many others in the community that agree with me including many famous black artists and celebrities…

Just maybe I voted for him and now regret it…


NikkieC
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 4:12 pm

Its been seen over and over again! LOOK IT UP!


ambernicole
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 4:18 pm

People say we have better race relations in this country??? What a bunch BULLS….!


Tuci78
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 4:47 pm

No, it's a perfectly reasonable question. Why should an individual who is predominantly white (if only trailer trash, “red diaper baby” socialist white), a good chunk Arab, and a bitty-bit Luo tribesman (East African when almost all American black people descend from West African tribal folk captured and sold into slavery by Barry Soetoro's Arab relatives), who had spent much of his childhood in Indonesia learning Arabic and memorizing the Qu'uran, and then had been bundled off by his adoptive father (Lolo Soetoro) and indifferent mother (Stanley Ann Dunham) to live with his white maternal grandparents, there to be raised – in Weird All Yankovic's immortal phrase, “Whiter than sour cream” – ever have identified himself with the American negro experience, culture, or identity?

It took a conscious effort on Barry Soetoro's part to “make himself over” to achieve the faux noir illusiion he currently projects. Heavens, his lawyer wife, Michelle, had to drag him off to the Rev. Wright's gospel-shouting low-Protestant rant-and-rave Sunday theater just to help him put on the illusion of “being authentically black.”

Were he left to himself, he'd still be responding to the muezzin's call to prayer five times a day.


Myron
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 4:58 pm

Yeah, Obama hates his mom and grandparents. Makes sense.


Myron
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:03 pm

No, I think he or she has a problem believing a black man would come on here and run all the right-wing talking points against Obama. But the existence of Clarence Thomas, Michael Steele and Thomas Sowell shows that it's possible.

So, dance on, “brother.”


kristopher007
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:09 pm

Your assumption that it takes hate to be a racist is incorrect. I know plenty of people that show racist tendencies despite having limited numbers of friends and associates from the same group. there are different levels of behavior. One does not need to display an outright hate to have preconceived notions and show clear prejudice.


vallan
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:10 pm

How many are actually paying attention to this?
There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc.
And then there are just Americans
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You Call me White boy, Cracker, Honkey, Whitey, Caveman. And that's OK.
But when I call you, Nigger, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink…
You call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, So why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi You have the NAACP. You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) — We'd be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day — You would call us racists.
If we had White History Month — We'd be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites to “advance OUR lives” — You would call us racists.
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we justhave the plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships You know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US , yet if there were a “White college” THAT would be a racist college.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching For your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights,
You would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're Not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride.
You call us racists.
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer Shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society. You call him a racist.
I am proud and white.
But, you call me a racist.
Ever wonder…
Why is it that only whites can be racists?

Can't remember one time a black person has ever done anything good for me…..can you? I'm totally with Glen Beck on this.


kristopher007
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:12 pm

Some common sense for a change. Thank you.


kristopher007
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:14 pm

coming from Joe Blow, are you really serious. I think your xbox is overheating.


MilliJoolz
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:20 pm

My comment was a comment on the comments of Myron and Joe_Blow to Landalious's post. LOOK IT UP!


kristopher007
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:22 pm

I Agree, We should be free to openly discuss our leadership, the behavior to demonize Bush critics was no less damaging then the media love-fest with Obama. He will also learn in time what happens when you lose popular support and can no longer pay for the supportive media attention. Get ready for the Obama hangover.


MilliJoolz
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:26 pm

To Tootsie:

Personally I think (or rather hope) you're on a planet in a parallel universe.


CPK2001
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:34 pm

BO clearly has disdain toward white people who don't agree with his agenda. He sees white people like Oprah sees white people: There are “good white folk” and then those that aren't. Unfortunately those that are considered “good” aren't just klansmen or skinheads-they are white people who don't agree with affirmative action or who believe that people should support themselves or that reparations wrong. Those white people aren't racists; they just don't agree with democrat vote-buying propaganda. Unfortunately, such views disqualify them from BO and Oprah's list of “good white people.”


patrick
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:42 pm

Tuci is such an angry man! He just can't handle the fact that America is changing and not the way he wants it to change. He has suggested to me to move to another country, but maybe he should! His constant bloviating is filled with hate. I am sure he would shoot Obama if he had a chance. He probably loved it when Kennedy was shot. Try to mellow out Tuci. By the way, do you ever sleep or are you on all of these “Independent?” blogs 24/7?


allright
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:46 pm

Another great pick by obama:

John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

Oh and lets not forget his supreme court justice pick, who said “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male” and thinks that judges are supposed to make laws rather than interpret them


allright
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:53 pm

Some interesting stats :

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
* Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
* Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery
* Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.

(USGPO, 2002), p. 252. FBI, Crime in the United States, 2002
(USGPO, 2003), p. 252. FBI, Crime in the United States, 2003
(USGPO, 2004), p. 288


bob
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 5:58 pm

Fox should fire Beck, He acts like a idiot when on radio or TV


patrick
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 6:03 pm

dum spiro spero

actual translation: while i breathe, i hope

get it right tuci!


catman28
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 6:09 pm

no way you're Black


debbiev
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 6:41 pm

This Glen Beck is inciting people to overthrhow the government and he scares me!!!


dlswarty
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 7:11 pm

Who cares about the Dixie Chicks! why are you still talking about them. Have you noticed are way of life is going down the drain??


Patrick
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 8:12 pm

The main reason for the way our country is going is all because of the disastrous 8 years of George W Bush!!!!!! He took us into a war we did not need to go into and took away our civil rights one at a time. Obama took over this country with it being in the worst condition EVER! Thanks W for f@$#$^ this country up. Now we have Republicans disquising themselves as “Independents”. They are too ashamed to admit they voted Bush in and in my opinion these are the people responsible for the downturn in this country. Where were these “Independents” during Bush and Company while they destroyed my couontry? My/our country can't be fixed in the short time Obama has been president and those who want to tear him down are the very same folks who said I was unpatriotic for saying bad things about the worst president ever (Bush)! But truthfully, it all started with Ronald Reagan (the second worst president ever). Reagan should have been awarded “Best Actor” for the 8 disastrous years he was president. Republicans are mean spirited and will do anything to make Obama's presidency a failure.


mikes111
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 8:42 pm

The Dixie Chicks are awesome and spectacular. I love those women. Natalie is the best singer in country music. And the Dixie Chicks didn't do anything wrong at all, so I hope you blow-hards and die-hards get an education, read up on why “Freedom of Speech” is in the Bill of Rights, and just shut up already.

When Natalie made a harmless comment she caught hell from all sorts of idiots. When Ann Coulter called Bill Clinton “the horny hillbilly” those same morons didn't even raise an eyebrow.

Hypocrisy is a horrible and ugly thing, don't you think?


thegr8communicator
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 8:49 pm

Beck has a LOT of nerve. He's from the mormon church which is basically a slick cult (read about the beginnings of the Mormon religion it's not that far from crazy as Scientology). This is a church that until the 70's didn't think black people had souls LOL. A bunch of crazy multiple wife having, cuzin f-ing nut bags. An for the idiot Vallan which I can only expect to be some type of Nordic Aryan. You have the other 11 months as “White History Month”, you have NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, MTV and most of the cable stations as “White Entertainment”. Just because they don't call themselves that doesn't mean they aren't. How many minority led shows are there on those stations compared to all white casts? What most of you far right, black helicopters are coming to get us, UN troops invading our shores, cable box is gov't control crazy's are forgetting is that equal rights (mandated by Federal Law) is less than 40 years old. So remember that some of YOU and definitely some of YOUR parents are and were willing participants in the violence and oppression of an entire race of people because their are no innocent bystanders to oppression. While I agree that the black community needs to address their issues don't think for a minute that everything is going to be peachy creamy in 40 f-ing years. Just because you read a book by a scared little worm like Alex Jones doesn't make you anymore knowledgeable than reading Dr. Suess. Both fiction except Dr. Suess fans are scared little wusses spending their days worrying about some mythical takeover of America. The takeover happened when we got rid of the gold standard morons.


sooner60
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 12:01 am

Much of the controversy over the Dixie Chicks was that they said it on Foriegn soil. And now it's come full circle Obama goes on foriegn soil and apologizes for America.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 12:01 am

Nah, I'm just married. Seems like another “planet in a parallel universe” sometimes, though.

Hm. Not a speculative fiction (SF) fan, are you? Were someone to be on this, the same planet, “in a parallel universe,” you'd still be out-of-touch with him. Go to Gutenberg.org and look up “H. Beam Piper.” a lot of his Paratime Police stories and novels have gone into the public domain recently, and you can read ad libitum.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 12:04 am

Sure. The sense of it is pretty much the same, paddy. Picky, picky, picky. Give an Obamaphile access to Google, and the silly dork thinks he can pull a Latin snerk on an ex-parochial school kid who had to memorize the Mass before Vatican II turned the altar around and cranked the liturgy into the vernacular….


Tuci78
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 12:33 am

Top-posting yet another Obamaphile sack-of-whine snit all about l'il old me, paddy? Aw! How cute. Kinda like Mr. Weigel wasn't writing about the Dixie Chicks and Joe Scarborough and Glenn Beck at all, and had taken to focusing his attention on an unregistered poster working under the nickname of “Tuci78,” right?

No? Hm. So what's your point, little weasel? I mean, besides the one to which all your skull bones come on top?

And why don't you want to move out of America, paddy? Your Mombasa Messiah has revealed his plan to make his native Kenya our 57th state, hasn't he? You'll fit in just fine over there.

And when you go, don't forget to visit the Coast Provincial General Hospital. I understand they've got a plaque on the wall in the Maternity Ward commemorating his birth.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 12:39 am

Aw, the Fox folks just love Beck. Beyond merely being informative, he's delightfully entertaining. Had John Stossel on for a while today, giving you some idea of how Beck is much more of a libertarian than a conservative.

And you got that “acts like” bit right. Parody, bob. Satire. What do they surgically remove your sense of humor as well as your balls when they induct you into the “Liberal” movement?


sagm
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 1:06 am

We like Glen Beck.


allright
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 1:16 am

Another good pick

Obama Picks 2 Devout Muslims for Homeland Security?

http://patriotupdate.com/home/story/551/Obama_A…


sagm
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 1:26 am

this is great!!! would like to post on a couple of other places..is that okay with you??


Nobodys Business
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 1:45 am

The President voiced his bias towards white police officers and his obvious blatant abuse of profiling majorities. Like it or not, even if it comes from the White House, that's racism. Sorry Joe, but Beck has bells and all you have is the obvious MSNBC easy out of pandering and slobbering up …


Patrick
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 4:38 am

Tuci–Dum Spiro Spero is my family motto on our family crest. Sorry to dissapoint you by not doing a google search. Maybe you are not the smartest fella on this blog.


testtube
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 7:53 am

Tuci,what job title did you apply for???
Sherri, why dont we lock you up for speaking out what you think is bad, do you want to be put away? did you not learn anything from your little friend of the thirtys?? intelligence is all you need to push the masses, PROPAGANDA, fear mongering, where do you think they learned it from?? YOU DONT KNOW WHAT TRUE INTELLIGENCE IS. YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHO” THEY “ARE. KNOW YOUR HISTORY, BEFORE YOU SPEAK OUT AGAINST YOUR FUTURE. PEOPLE LIKE YOU GET PASSED OVER, GO STICK YOUR HEAD BACK IN THE SAND, CHANGE THE CHANNNEL.


testtube
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 8:42 am

DO YOU THINK LIL OLE BAMA CAME UP WITH ALL THOSE MAKING HISTORY COMMENTS AND CHANGE IDEAS ALL BY HIS LITTLE LONESOME??? HE NEVER WOULD HAVE GOT INTO OFFICE IF HE COULDN'T CONVINCE THE NON VOTING FOR THE LAST 10 YRS, A PROMISE NOT EVEN THEY COULD IGNORE. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD IN THE PACKAGE, ITS SUPPOSED TO, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE SPENT TO SUCK YOU IN,
TO BUY PRODUCTS,GAMBLE,STUDIES ARE PERFORMED BY RACE…WHY WOULDN'T THEY INVEST IN WHAT SELLS BEST, MONEY IS THE MOTIVE, FOE EVERYONE, YOU ARE NOT EXEMPT.
IF YOU CAN THINK FOR YOURSELF, YOU WILL LISTEN TO ALL SIDES, THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO. DID YOU VOTE BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK?? SO WHAT SO DID ALOT. BUT NOW YOU HAVE A QUESTION, NOT SO SURE?, YOU ARE SMARTER THAN YOU THINK, BE CURIOUS, MAKE YOUR OWN 'INFORMED' DECSIONS. REMEMBER YOU ARE A NUMBER IN SOME SURVEY, SOME STUDY, SCIENTIFIC, ETHICAL. THATS RIGHT, RACIST ARE IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITY. THEY WILL USE RESULTS AGAINST YOU. UNTIL WE ALL THINK WE ARE TRULY EQUAL, A HUMANS RACE WILL ALWAYS BE A WEAPON. OBAMA JUST PROVED IT, HE SHOULD HAVE PROMOTED HUMAN EQUALITY, BUT YET SADLY, HE STILL REFERS TO RACIAL ISSUES TO GAIN SYMPATHETIC FAVORITISM.


vallan
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 10:59 am

Feel free to post this on as many web sites as you can ! Glad you like my comment.

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vallan
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 1:20 pm

How many are actually paying attention to this?
There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc.
And then there are just Americans
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You Call me White boy, Cracker, Honkey, Whitey, Caveman. And that's OK.
You call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, So why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi You have the NAACP. You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) — We'd be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day — You would call us racists.
If we had White History Month — We'd be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites to “advance OUR lives” — You would call us racists.
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships You know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US , yet if there were a “White college” THAT would be a racist college.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching For your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights,
You would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're Not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride.
You call us racists.
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer Shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society. You call him a racist.
I am proud and white.
But, you call me a racist.
Ever wonder…
Why is it that only whites can be racists?

I'm totally with Glen Beck on this.


allright
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 7:09 pm

Patrick,

Worst ever ? how old are you ? do you know anything about soup lines ? We should have gone to war or not gotten in it at all, but removing a scumbag like Husayn (that's how they spell it) was necessary, (you probably don't know anything about a state religion, or being oppressed to the point of insanity like most of the countries in the middle east, I am of Arab decent) And don't try and blame this on just the republicans, remember who has been in charge of Congress, and both parties sold out when they let the federal reserve be run by private bankers and their illegal collection agency (inter-anal rev. svc.) take effect, Oh and your rants about Reagan ? well the national debt is going to be 11 trillion with obama (the highest ever I think ?) I can tell you one thing. we would be a lot safer with Reagan than with this administration. Oh and I am an independent, and was before Bush. Just remember socialism has not worked anywhere else in the world, and it isn't going to work here. One last thing, talk about mean spirited, it is you that seems to be preaching hate the most.


allright
Comment posted July 31, 2009 @ 7:11 pm

Uh, I think our forefathers did that, or we wouldn't be free right now


amber_nicole
Comment posted August 1, 2009 @ 12:05 am

I am going to answer your questions for you.

African Americans(Africans that became US Citizens…Black people did not give themselves the title of African American being that not all blacks are from Africa), Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans (Mexican, Asian, and Arabs from various countries that became US Citizens)
Native Americans (From what I understand according to the history books I read) they were already here before Europeans came to “discover America”
Its funny you leave out European Americans!

I Live in Suffolk County, NY and white people have tried to break into my house, broke my car window, and robbed stores. Until the some police officers saw survallence tapes of actual white young men doing it they blamed it on black and hispanic men. On halloween 3 white boys were arrested for throwing eggs at my friends and I while calling us niggers telling us to go back to africa! Last I check…my family was from South Carolina and Georgia!

NO ITS NOT OK BUT SOME WHITE PEOPLE HAVE CALLED ME NIGGER, APE, GORRILLA, KOON AND PORCH MONKEY, CALLED HISPANICS SPICS, ASIANS CHINKS, AND ARABS TERRIORIST.

Thats not RACIST?.

You have Martin Luther King Day: There is Columbus Day, by the way MLK wanted equality for all races!

I will alert you that White people live in Ghettos too! What about some areas in the south where minorites cant drive around in certain towns without being harrased by whites especially with the crossburinings and the nooses being hung on trees in front houses of minorities!

You have BET. (BET is one of the very few stations that show black programs programs with more that one black person in it. Can you say the same for CBS, NBC, VH1, MTV, ABC, CMT, FOX,) PS…WHITES watch BET too.

Tell Me when is Black Pride Day or Hispanic Pride Day, or Asian pride day? Ive never heard of them.
There is so little Black history in the History books taught in schools so that everyone not just blacks, can learn about all history! If I must stoop down to your level we have white history month 11 months out the year.

White people have advanced and still are advancing in this country for Hundreds of years! I for one would love to see all races advance not only in politics but in corporate america too!

In 2003, a Texas Tech student started the United White Persons College Fund. The United Negro College fund was started in 1944 in a Black College. It was created so that underpriviled young black men and women can attend college and recieve and education to advance in this country.

Ive got news for you…White people attend Black Colleges and Universities! At West Virginia State Univerisity which is a Historically Black College…the student body is 90% white. These colleges were created because at that time blacks could not get into schools such as Harvard, Notre Dame, Penn State and Columbia in which most of the student body in those schools were 99% white if not all white. Now you have mniorities attending these schools!

You have the KKK who is not afraid to scream White Power and feel that america is only for white people! Everyone should be proud of their Heritiage. You're white and proud and I am happy for you.

So you are that white people do not rob, carjack and shoot at anyone! Let me tell you ….Whites, especially in my neighborhood are the ones that half the time supply and bring drugs into black neighborhood because they know they will not be caught if a black drug dealer gets caught. What about the Mafia..Is that not a gang? What about white kids that steal from stores! Groups of young white men rob minorites. What about the ones that go around beating up minorites just for being in the “wrong neighborhood”. My husband who like President Obama is half white has been pulled over and stopped many times by white police officers and once was beaten by one when he tried to identify himself as a police officer! You do not hear of black, hispanic and other minority police officers accused of racial profiling as much as u do white officers!

There is Racisim in ALL racist which is sad. I am afraid that this issue will not be resolved in any of our lifetimes. So not it is not true that only whites can be racist!

I wonder if you are with Glenn Beck on this Issue are u a racist???


Anonymous
Comment posted August 3, 2009 @ 6:50 pm

Anything that does not agree with your agenda is automatically a lie, show me proof that it is a lie, liberals always say conservatives are lying about things, but rarely show proof of it. Research Obama and you will see that he lied to a POW veteran (who spent 41/2 years in a prison camp) about public financing , ever heard of ACORN ? how about illegal contributions ? how do you think they raised all that money ?

You probably don’t want to know the truth, you are to busy hating conservatives to listen to any truth


allright
Comment posted August 3, 2009 @ 6:39 pm

No reply Patrick ? That's what I thought


Anonymous
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 2:39 am

You cannot be that foolish! Your words are the rantings of neo-nazi, ku klux klan, demented, imbecillic fool! Your are obviously ignorant in every respect to black history and there is no such thing as the American negro. There is no such thing as a pure american. You would have to be nuts or Hitler not to know this. You, with all of your ill-will towards this man who has done nothing to you, but attempt to make this country in which you live, a better place for all people, you are not of a pure race of people. Most of them died in Germany along with Hitler, where they were being manufactured. If you were born in America, you are just as much a mixed breed as Obama and all the rest of us americans. You should further understand that what makes a individual trash is not where he comes from, nor is it his social or economic status, but the status of his heart. Yours my unfortunate friend, seems to find comfort in the abyss of darkness.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 3:01 am

Wow, what an asshole this one is.

Let’s see. Is there anything in this spew to point out how I’m supposed to be “obviously ignorant in every respect to black history” or to support this idiot’s contention that “there is no such thing as the American negro”?

Millions of American negroes, and there’s no such thing? No such thing as a “pure american” either? Funny, I thought there were something like 400 million of us. Born here, in one or another of these states or territories or commonwealths. Couldn’t get any more “pure american” than that, could it?

As for “what makes a individual trash,” now…. Hm. How about Stanley Ann Dunham as a sample of trash?

When one comes to understand Barry Soetoro, one appreciates how calling him “trash” is giving him a definite upgrade.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 3:03 am

Even worse. There are people calling that racist “the prez.”


Anonymous
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 3:08 am

You cannot be that foolish! Your words are the rantings of neo-nazi, ku klux klan, demented, imbecillic fool! Your are obviously ignorant in every respect to black history and there is no such thing as the American negro. There is no such thing as a pure american. You would have to be nuts or Hitler not to know this. You, with all of your ill-will towards this man who has done nothing to you, but attempt to make this country in which you live, a better place for all people, you are not of a pure race of people. Most of them died in Germany along with Hitler, where they were being manufactured. If you were born in America, you are just as much a mixed breed as Obama and all the rest of us americans. You should further understand that what makes a individual trash is not where he comes from, nor is it his social or economic status, but the status of his heart. Yours my unfortunate friend, seems to find comfort in the abyss of darkness.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 4:00 am

I love when those that are ignorant call others ignorant:
Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, “Gov. Palin plays no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.” – August 31, 2008

And what it tells us about us liberal assholes is that we are actually interested in the truth. Stay hot, Susan Lucci… er… I mean… Tuci.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 4:06 am

So, you could present no evidence of a single socialist program implemented by the Obama administration and link to an ultra-right wing website to “show evidence” that he is a socialist?
compelling… what a smoking gun. Stay hot!


Tuci78
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 4:49 am

And what role does the governor of Alaska play in the functions of the state’s National Guard elements, pray tell? I’m working from the assumption – and I’m certainly willing to admit that this assumption is in error – that in Alaska, the relationship of the state government to its National Guard units is much as it has been in the various “lower 48″ states where I’ve lived my entire life.

These units are composed of militia members or personnel under active or inactive federal armed forces service under USC Titles 10 and 32, and operate under their respective state governors (or under a designated territorial adjutant general).

While no state governor has any active “role in national defense activities” in the sense of decision-making power in the military chain of command, every governor “owns” those state National Guard units which are not actively “federalized,” and is certainly entitled to (indeed, one might properly say by duty required to) take an interest in the character, quality, strengths, assets, tables of organization and equipment (TO&E), manning levels, and even wartime taskings planned for that state’s National Guard units in all save those regards kept classified for reasons of national security.

You want to look into this further, AShwipe, and get back on it? Thanks.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 4:49 am

And what role does the governor of Alaska play in the functions of the state’s National Guard elements, pray tell? I’m working from the assumption – and I’m certainly willing to admit that this assumption is in error – that in Alaska, the relationship of the state government to its National Guard units is much as it has been in the various “lower 48″ states where I’ve lived my entire life.

These units are composed of militia members or personnel under active or inactive federal armed forces service under USC Titles 10 and 32, and operate under their respective state governors (or under a designated territorial adjutant general).

While no state governor has any active “role in national defense activities” in the sense of decision-making power in the military chain of command, every governor “owns” those state National Guard units which are not actively “federalized,” and is certainly entitled to (indeed, one might properly say by duty required to) take an interest in the character, quality, strengths, assets, tables of organization and equipment (TO&E), manning levels, and even wartime taskings planned for that state’s National Guard units in all save those regards kept classified for reasons of national security.

You want to look into this further, AShwipe, and get back on it? Thanks.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 5:34 am

You cannot be that foolish! Your words are the rantings of neo-nazi, ku klux klan, demented, imbecillic fool! Your are obviously ignorant in every respect to black history and there is no such thing as the American negro. There is no such thing as a pure american. You would have to be nuts or Hitler not to know this. You, with all of your ill-will towards this man who has done nothing to you, but attempt to make this country in which you live, a better place for all people, you are not of a pure race of people. Most of them died in Germany along with Hitler, where they were being manufactured. If you were born in America, you are just as much a mixed breed as Obama and all the rest of us americans. You should further understand that what makes a individual trash is not where he comes from, nor is it his social or economic status, but the status of his heart. Yours my unfortunate friend, seems to find comfort in the abyss of darkness.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 9:22 am

You’re almost to ignorant to even dignify. You are what is wrong with our country. You know nothing about black people and pathetically, even less about your own race or you’re just to ignorant to deal with truth. Do you really believe that african americans recognize themselves as “american negroes,” just because some asinine, racist white man wrote it somewhere long ago? You’re delusional! We seem to have evaded the subject, so for the record I will affirm that you positively know nothing about black history or black people and yes, Obama is as african american as the rest os us. Deal with it!

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile


Anonymous
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 9:22 am

You’re almost to ignorant to even dignify. You are what is wrong with our country. You know nothing about black people and pathetically, even less about your own race or you’re just to ignorant to deal with truth. Do you really believe that african americans recognize themselves as “american negroes,” just because some asinine, racist white man wrote it somewhere long ago? You’re delusional! We seem to have evaded the subject, so for the record I will affirm that you positively know nothing about black history or black people and yes, Obama is as african american as the rest os us. Deal with it!

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile


Tuci78
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 9:58 am

Though the average American uses “ignorant” as a synonym for “ill-mannered” or “rude” or even “crude,” it is not.

“Ignorant” – either willfully or inadvertently is, I assure you lynda, something I strive at all times not to be. I’m a “run-and-find-out” kind of individual. Common in my line of work.

How American negroes chose to identify themselves in the terms of this week’s political correctness I don’t much care. Terminology shifts undertaken for reasons other than precision of definition are silly and counterproductive. Always have been. Weasel-words meant by one generation to assuage certain folks’ feelings become the schoolyard pejoratives of the next. Euphemisms for body parts or functions cobbled up by the delicately-inclined of three decades ago are the pool-hall expletives of this afternoon.

Plus ça change, plus c’est la meme chose.”

I know American negroes by way of epidemiology, as I know Pima Amerindians and pale-skinned, freckled Irishmen, and people who descend from the mixed Hispanic, Amerindian, and Negro populations of the Caribbean Basin. When they’re sitting on an exam table in those ridiculous paper gowns, they are who they are, and I accept them for everything they bring to that encounter, including their ethnicity – which predisposes to certain pathologies, as you should know.

That certain people should feel ashamed of themselves for the melanin content of their skin I try to understand, but really I don’t. I don’t care. Anyone who does care, and thinks less of such people for that reason and that reason alone, is a bloody idiot. What the hell is his opinion worth? I mark him as a potentially dangerous bloody idiot, and take care to treat him with caution henceforth.

The hard part of your witless, squealing attack, lynda, resides in my utter indifference to standard “Liberal” accusations of bigotry. I hate people on the basis of who they are and what they do, not what they are.

Except for lawyers, of course. I mean, one has to draw the limit somewhere.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 9:58 am

Though the average American uses “ignorant” as a synonym for “ill-mannered” or “rude” or even “crude,” it is not.

“Ignorant” – either willfully or inadvertently is, I assure you lynda, something I strive at all times not to be. I’m a “run-and-find-out” kind of individual. Common in my line of work.

How American negroes chose to identify themselves in the terms of this week’s political correctness I don’t much care. Terminology shifts undertaken for reasons other than precision of definition are silly and counterproductive. Always have been. Weasel-words meant by one generation to assuage certain folks’ feelings become the schoolyard pejoratives of the next. Euphemisms for body parts or functions cobbled up by the delicately-inclined of three decades ago are the pool-hall expletives of this afternoon.

Plus ça change, plus c’est la meme chose.”

I know American negroes by way of epidemiology, as I know Pima Amerindians and pale-skinned, freckled Irishmen, and people who descend from the mixed Hispanic, Amerindian, and Negro populations of the Caribbean Basin. When they’re sitting on an exam table in those ridiculous paper gowns, they are who they are, and I accept them for everything they bring to that encounter, including their ethnicity – which predisposes to certain pathologies, as you should know.

That certain people should feel ashamed of themselves for the melanin content of their skin I try to understand, but really I don’t. I don’t care. Anyone who does care, and thinks less of such people for that reason and that reason alone, is a bloody idiot. What the hell is his opinion worth? I mark him as a potentially dangerous bloody idiot, and take care to treat him with caution henceforth.

The hard part of your witless, squealing attack, lynda, resides in my utter indifference to standard “Liberal” accusations of bigotry. I hate people on the basis of who they are and what they do, not what they are.

Except for lawyers, of course. I mean, one has to draw the limit somewhere.


Patrick
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 2:34 pm

Hey allright,

I don't live on these blogs, so my response time is not that fast. If Bush had been truthful about his mission in Iraq and was more transparent with the American people I would view this illegal war differently. He & Cheney (President Cheney?) altered reports and flat out lied just to revenge a mission his father did not complete. With all of their no bid contracts to oil buddies and hundreds of thousands of people dead, W should be ashamed! BTW, I am 55.

Reagan's trickle down economics only trickled up. I had him as both fovernor and president. He destroyed the California public school system. As president, he empowered the IRS, was bad for small business (I owned a print shop from 1979-1990, so I know), coddled the insurance industry, de-regulated anything he could, and was basically a puppet for big business.

As an independent, who did you vote for in 2000 & 2004?

Sure, there is huge spending going on by Obama and congress. The problem is that highly unusual approaches are needed to get out of this mess left behind by Bush & Company. He has been in office 6 months and from day one, the right wing, conservatives, racists, christians, & independents have been on a warpath to paint him as a madman and messiah. Those who did not vote for him are plain and simple mad that he got elected and can't handle it. The eyes are closed and the ears are plugged. The ability to see anything that is being done is good has been completely eliminated by resistant thoght process. I put up with Bush for 8 years and participated by writing letters to my local newspaper editor and was considered anti-patriotic for voicing my opinion by the likes of all of the conservative/republican/right wing christians (?). Now that you all don't like what is going on and you are being so critical of such a young administration, you are voicing your opinions, which is ok. But don't start false ideas and smear a man who is only trying to get this country back on track.

The constant postings on these blogs are filled with statistics (no reference where any of these statistics are coming from). They also provide comments and opinions of the very same politicians that got us into the mess we are in. Why is it that Fox news interviews “former” Republican politicians or conservative radio hosts most of the time. As I believe in my politics, you have the same right to do the same. But, you all lost the last election, so go about your freedom of speech, but don't be so mean spirited with your efforts. I am guilty of mean-spirited comments as well. We as a country are totally polarized. But the truth is, it is the right wing that is polarizing the country by being stubborn and obstinent. Things have changed. The younger generation who was not raised on hate & racism values are voting more and very aware of the world affairs. They don't have total Democratic or Republican views, but are more cognizant of issues. They are more open to ANY point of view and are going to alter the voting habits. Just give this current administration a chance to do something. If after a year and a half, things are really bad and it looks like Obama is not going to be able to fix many of our country's issues, I too will be critical of it all. But, he needs time to do things. Bush did not get this scrutiny in his first year or so.

Patrick


allright
Comment posted August 4, 2009 @ 5:49 pm

OMG it the same old montra, the republicans are only for the rich, they want to take away the social security from old people, blah blah blah and why do you keep talking about Regan and Bush, I thought we were talking about Obama, fine give him a chance, give him 8 years, just wait and see, and then come back in a few years and lets see what happens.


Anonymous
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 12:08 am

Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, the service commander of the Alaska National Guard:

“Occasions in which Palin retains command authority over the 4,200-member Alaska National Guard are whenever the Guard responds to in-state natural disasters and civic emergencies”

I have now given you two quotes contradicting your assertion from the command generals of the Alaska National Guard. They may know a little bit more than you do on this matter. You can call me any names you wish (obviously your vocabulary allows for little of anything else). If you don’t like their answers (otherwise known as the truth) complain to the Alaska National Guard, not me.

You have a right to your opinion. You do not have the right to change facts.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 12:40 am

Nah. I was upset when Kennedy got bumped off. They knocked off all television programming for the whole week-end. You ever had to listen to Walter (“I'm even duller than death”) Cronkite 24/7 for four days?

Tellya what, Paddy. I'll keep these 50 states, and you move to your Messiah's 57th.

His native Kenya.


Tuci78
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 12:42 am

None. My job title is “proprietor.” You don't apply for that job title. You hang up your shingle and there you are. A bunch of docs are still just small businessmen. The essence of “middle class.”

As for “PROPAGANDA,” don't you fascists – or are you calling yourselves “Liberals” again? – have the lock on that?

Oh, well. One of the few nice things about getting old is that I've watched shit like you flushed down into the sewers a buncha times.

Here, let me get the handle…. Bye!


Tuci78
Comment posted August 5, 2009 @ 12:44 am

Oh? You're pretending you have a family, Paddy?

But didn't you say you'd been abandoned in an alley, and picked up by a band of itinerant “poverty pimps” working for Alinsky?


Tuci78
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 11:42 am

From David Hahn, “Publisher, StatePaper.com ” August 5, 2009.

Publisher: Obama Should Produce Original Birth Certificate

At StatePaper.com, we know by making this statement we will be instantly tagged as “racist,” “birther,” or other pejorative terms by those who defend the President of the United States. We often defend the President and the job he is doing and are regularly lambasted for being “too liberal” or an “Obama lover” by some of our most prolific critics.

But, here is the issue:

The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of our country. Article II of the Constitution requires the President to be a natural born citizen. Without reciting them here, there appears to be some serious questions raised about whether President Obama was born in the United States or Kenya. We have not checked sources, but there are reports that some witnessed his birth in Kenya.

The President's campaign staff and then his administration have released and placed on the internet a “Certificate of Live Birth.” We do not dispute the validity or correctness of that document as others have tried to do, suggesting the use of computers to alter seals and names. By releasing this document the President agrees that the claims about his status as a natural born citizen is an open, important, public issue.

But, this “Certificate of Live Birth” is simply not the best evidence that the President and his administration could offer to lay to rest any doubt about his status as a natural born citizen.

Barack Obama is a lawyer and a graduate of Harvard Law School. All law students study the body of law we call “Evidence.” One of the core tenets of American law is the “best evidence rule” which requires the production of original, or certified copies, of original document to prove a fact. Abstracts and summaries are not original documents.

The President has offered an abstract (Certificate) of his birth, but not an original birth certificate which would be the best evidence of his birth. We need the best evidence so that it can do what the best evidence is meant to do; dispel the doubts about a fact. We need to see the Birth Certificate. That's the one that is often handwritten and signed by the doctor.

Lawyers and legal thinkers will, obviously, argue the finer points of the “Best Evidence Rule” and its applicability to this matter. But, that misses the point. The notion of “Best Evidence” is solidly-grounded in law. This is an important public matter and it seems now that the President has started down the path of offering some evidence (Certificate of Live Birth), he should offer the “best evidence” (Original Birth Certificate) which is the source document for his birth. The document behind the document which has been released. This is what is needed now in the court of public knowledge.

The fact in question here is the constitutional qualification of the President of the United States to hold office. With a simple nod, the President could offer the American people the best evidence, the source document(s), as he learned about at Harvard, and dispel those who question his birth as a natural born citizen. His failure to provide this best evidence, when it could be so easily done, raises only more questions, which fuels an ugly public debate.

And now we've got a “Liberal” Nebraska newspaper advising Barry to cough up his birth certificate.

If he can. Anybody ready to hear our TelePrompTer-in-Chief taking the Fifth?


a mary cah
Comment posted August 6, 2009 @ 8:03 pm

My overall opinion of everyone elses opinion and comments on this post.

Yes–there are racists in this country, even possibly the past or current president, many CEO's, homeless, average Joe's..etc–its happens–get over it!

There seems WAAAY too many people on here calling eachother ignorant.

Its easier to see faults in everyone else–it takes a better person to find faults in himself!!


allright
Comment posted August 8, 2009 @ 5:34 pm

Wake up people :

Barack Obama has seized control of the automobile industry, the banks, and is about to nationalize health care. Worse yet, Obama is about to add trillions to the national debt. There's simply no way we can afford the tax hike and the drop in quality. Are we now living in the USSA?


Tuci78
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 2:38 am

Well, a common error in American usage is the substitution of the word “ignorant” when what is meant is “ill-mannered.”

True ignorance is either inadvertent (“I didn't know that”) and honest, or willful (“No, you can't tell me that! Nurmee-nurmee-nurmee-I'm-not-LISTENING!“) and either psychopathological or duplicitous.

Dishonest.

The ignorance of the Obamaphile is of the latter variety, particularly in light of the repeated efforts of constitutionalists – all of whom hate Barry Soetoro and want to see him safely immured in some secure location like Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary for the rest of his miserable life – to set forth explicitly the requirements of Article II, Section 1, of the U.S. Constitution and how Barry has not met those requirements, almost certainly out of purely criminal intent.

I am ill-mannered. I'm not, however, “ignorant” save to the extent that (in Will Rogers' words) “Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.

The Obamaphiles are not truly “ignorant.” They're liars. That's the appropriate technical term.


neilends
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 12:08 pm

“The fundamental fiction is that Obama has refused to release his “real” birth certificate. This is untrue. The document that Obama has made available is the document that Hawaiian authorities issue when they are asked for a birth certificate. There is no secondary document cloaked in darkness, only the state records that are used to generate birth certificates when they are requested.

If one applies for a United States passport, the passport office will demand a birth certificate. It defines this as an official document bearing “your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records.” The Hawaiian birth certificate President Obama has produced—the document is formally known as a “certificate of live birth”—bears that information. It has been inspected by reporters, and several state officials have confirmed that the information in permanent state records is identical to that on the president’s birth certificate—which is precisely what one expects, of course, since the state records are used to generate those documents when they are requested. In other words, what President Obama has produced is the “real” birth certificate of myth and lore. The director of Hawaii’s health department and the registrar of records each has personally verified that the information on Obama’s birth certificate is identical to that in the state’s records, the so-called vault copy.”

Editors, National Review
July 28, 2009


neilends
Comment posted August 9, 2009 @ 12:13 pm

You are indeed ignorant, because you laughably believe that the President of the United States is an illegal alien.

FYI, the hallmark of an ignorant person is self-denial. So, do I expect you to agree with me about your ignorance? Of course not. Deny away.


beardman
Comment posted August 28, 2009 @ 5:12 pm

Look who he works for he went to retraining school NBC to wash his brain out, you speak against the machine pay the price with his job.


tommyJames
Comment posted August 29, 2009 @ 12:53 am

This is a great point – the conservatives actually boycotted…the Dixie Chicks. yes yes, that edgey, alternative, dare I say racy, band peopled with three attractive, pastey, blue-eyed, blonde haired women.

The Dixie Chicks, folks, are about as edgey as a bowl of cottage cheese.

And the conservatives wonder why we think they're idiots.


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