A Quick Response to #TCOT

“Someday”, huh? It might be nice to have seen them before the election since there's a good chance there's something in there he doesn't want anyone to see. Even the NYT has noted that he's not telling the whole truth about his Columbia years.

P.S. If any TCOTters are visiting, to a find for his name at this page to see examples of Weigel lying and misleading about this issue. That doesn't matter whether you think “birthers” are crazy loons or not: his lies and misleading statements are independent of the merits of the underlying issue.

The U.S. Congress has accepted that Obama is a legitmate citizen
The State of Hawaii AGAIN verified his birth there, as verified by independent birth announcements by two local newspapers: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090728/ap_on_re_us…

You won't believe your President, Congress, the State of Hawaii, the Media, but you'll believe every wackjob website trying to sell Birther movies or get eyeballs for advertising revenue. This is just pathetic. At this point, even if you were right, and the whole government, most Americans, and the media are all conspiring to lie about this man, what do you think you have to win? If Birthers don't believe in our country, why don't they just leave and go make unsound and illogical arguments somewhere else. Everybody's sick of reading Birther posts, their unfounded arguments, and their baseless claims about a Constitution most of them have never even read.
You want to win your argument? Vote in your candidate for President next time. For now, you lost, so just accept it, and move on.

Weigel's really not interested in you, 24, in spite of your stalkerish affections.

Now the guy is too cowardly to admit he's a lunatic birther?

Dude

You know, just like the birthers your comments used to be good for some eye-rolling and a glimpse into the world of people-who-still-live-in-mom's-basement. But after a while it starts to lose it's charm. All you do is call everyone who disagrees with you a liar and then provide links to your website, which looks like it was organized by the guy that Dr Orly chose NOT to hire.

Ditto. Plus he's always citing to WND, even though WND said back on August 23, 2008 that the COLB is authentic and that subsequent bloggers themselves introduced the errors and inconsistencies they complained about. The WND article even said that forensic document experts concluded the COLB was authentic.

Here's the link:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageI…

Here's what you need to read when you get there:

“However, FactChecker.org says it obtained Obama's actual certification of live birth and that the document was indeed real. The site discredited some of the claims of Internet bloggers, such as that the certificate as viewed in a scanned copy released by Obama's campaign lacked a raised seal. FactChecker.org also established that many of the alleged flaws in the document noted by bloggers were caused by the scanning of the document.

A separate WND investigation into Obama's certification of live birth utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.”

Wow. Got that? Authentic. Got that? People claiming otherwise added stuff that wasn't there before.

As if that wasn't enough, here's a point about the claim that Obama supposedly lost his citizenship as a boy in Indonesia:

“In short, the suit claims Obama was not born an American citizen; lost any hypothetical American citizenship he had as a child (Editor's note: This point is not supported by U.S. citizenship law); may not now be an American citizen and even if he is, may hold dual citizenships with other countries.”

So 24 ahead is really far, far behind. And I've little patience for people who run around calling serious journalists “liars” when they have zero proof or credibility.

Where can I find the names of the doctors who delivered Presidents Bush the F-up, Clinton, Bush 1, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, Ike, Truma, Roosevelt, Hoover, Coolidge, Harding, Wilson, Taft, Teddy Roosevelt, McKinley, Cleveland, Harrison, Arthur, Garfield, Hayes, Grant, Johnson, Lincoln, Buchanan, Pierce, Filmore, Taylor, Polk, Tyler, Harrison, VanBuren, Jackson, JQ Adams, Monroe, Madison, Jefferson, Adams, Washington? Where are copies of their Certifications of Live Birth? Who's seen them? Where are their college and medical records? Who's seen them?

Here's an easier question for you racists whom the media has chosen to call birthers, just tell me where to find ANY of this information on any of our last four Presidents. Better yet, where can I find Bush's info? That should still be fresh in the public domain, if it were ever released. Oh, I guess the standards that you losers think you can set only apply to President Barack Hussein Obama. I wonder what's different about him than the other 42 men who preceded him as President of the United States of America. Hmmmm. I wonder.

You're forgetting the U.S. Supreme Court. It denied cert on the Berg lawsuit. Chief Justice John Roberts also swore in the President, twice no less. No birther I've talked to has been able to explain why a Bush-appointed conservative chief justice, who has sworn to uphold the Constitution, would knowingly participate in the unconstitutional act of swearing in an illegal president.

How can a looney birther actually have the gall to call someone else a liar?

“His lies and misleading statements are independent of the merits of the underlying issue”? You spout nothing but lies and misleading statements, completely ignoring the merits of the underlying issue.

When Barack Hussein Obama places his hand on the Bible today to take the oath of office as 44th president of the United States, Barbara Nelson of Kenmore will undoubtedly think back to the day he was born. It was Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu.

“I may be the only person left who specifically remembers his birth. His parents are gone, his grandmother is gone, the obstetrician who delivered him is gone,” said Nelson, referring to Dr. Rodney T. West, who died in February at the age of 98. Here’s the story: Nelson was having dinner at the Outrigger Canoe Club on Waikiki Beach with Dr. West, the father of her college friend, Jo-Anne. Making conversation, Nelson turned to Dr. West and said: “‘So, tell me something interesting that happened this week,’” she recalls.

His response: “Well, today, Stanley had a baby. Now that’s something to write home about.”

The new mother was Stanley (later referred to by her middle name of Ann) Dunham, and the baby was Barack Hussein Obama.

“I penned the name on a napkin, and I did write home about it,” said Nelson, knowing that her father, Stanley A. Czurles, director of the Art Education Department at Buffalo State College, would be interested in the “Stanley” connection.

She also remembers Dr. West mentioning that the baby’s father was the first black student at the University of Hawaii and how taken he was by the baby’s name.

Polarik, the “expert” who helped start the “Obama birth cert is a fake” movement exposed as a fraud & liar…
http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2009/07/meet-r…

Big surprise! The freepers have already moved the goalposts and are claiming that what Polarik said doesn't matter anyway, Obama's COLB is still a fake!

From David Hahn, “Publisher, StatePaper.com ” August 5, 2009.

Publisher: Obama Should Produce Original Birth Certificate

At StatePaper.com, we know by making this statement we will be instantly tagged as “racist,” “birther,” or other pejorative terms by those who defend the President of the United States. We often defend the President and the job he is doing and are regularly lambasted for being “too liberal” or an “Obama lover” by some of our most prolific critics.

The fact in question here is the constitutional qualification of the President of the United States to hold office. With a simple nod, the President could offer the American people the best evidence, the source document(s), as he learned about at Harvard, and dispel those who question his birth as a natural born citizen. His failure to provide this best evidence, when it could be so easily done, raises only more questions, which fuels an ugly public debate.

And now we've got a “Liberal” Nebraska newspaper advising Barry to cough up his birth certificate.

If he can. Anybody ready to hear our TelePrompTer-in-Chief taking the Fifth?