Talking Birthers on Air America Radio

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Friday, July 24, 2009 at 5:29 pm

Ana Marie Cox invited me onto “The Inside Story” today to chew over the birther conspiracies, their racial underpinnings and their threat to Republicans. The post-show Web-exclusive part of the interview is now online, right here.

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A
Comment posted July 24, 2009 @ 10:15 pm

Wonderful article. Unfortunately, I highly doubt it, or any other media coverage, will put the issue to rest for those who, in their delusional state, cling to it so fiercely.

If one looks at what is truly fueling this conspiracy theory– as one group of concerned citizens at the politijab DOT com forum have been doing for months now–one quickly finds that some of the most dangerous and vile anti-government and racist hate groups are driving the issue and using it to recruit new members.

Many of the birthers are clinging to a vision of the USA that is long past, and maybe never existed. They fear change and diversity, and they cannot accept what is happening before their own eyes. These people are being recruited, slowly, into much more dangerous existing hate groups. They are being encouraged daily to “take up arms” and “join militias” and “take their country back at all costs” and “get that Kenyan usurper and his gorilla wife out of office”. Check any birther chat or blog and these types of comments are rampant. Most of the birthers are likely harmless “armchair warriors”, but such sentiments are dangerous and the racism present in them is absolutely sickening.

Please look further into the roots of this idiocy. That is where the real story exists. No one wants to see another tragedy like the recent events involving Von Brunn, who espoused birther theories on the internet before picking up his gun and shooting an innocent man.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 25, 2009 @ 1:09 am

Hm. Mr. Weigel, I know that you had been (and seem to be continuing as) a Contributing Editor on the staff of Reason magazine, but how do you reconcile your participation in an explicitly libertarian publication with the support you provide here for a decidedly anti-libertarian POTUS?

I've hard of prostitutes prowling both sides of the street, of course….


Wayoutwest
Comment posted July 25, 2009 @ 4:08 am

Thanks for the info A. We have been uncovering these after-bithers true intentions for a week on the origonal thread. Join us we could use your insight.
Pete


wolverstone
Comment posted July 25, 2009 @ 7:17 pm

You've “heard” of prostitutes… Right


Tuci78
Comment posted July 25, 2009 @ 11:39 pm

Ooh, a spelling snerk. How proud your teacher must be of you, wolfie.

I was the medical director of a Public Health Service clinic that had responsibility for handling sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) in a three-county area for a couple of years. Got lots of “soiled doves” coming in with “gotta see the VD doctor” as their chief complaint.

Hell, kid. I not only “heard” of 'em but treated 'em. And their johns. And their johns' wives. Being an Obamaphile – and therefore terminally stupid – you almost certainly have no idea how fast N. gonococcus can gallop through a community.

You got content, doofus? No? Okay, on with working through the email. Nice interactive online CME presentation on first-line combination HAART in today's push from CCO….


ziploked
Comment posted July 25, 2009 @ 11:55 pm

You're full of it, Tuci78. You don't write, articulate, or communicate like a doctor. There's no such thing as an STD specific Public Health Clinic anywhere in the country. Nice try. You got proof, doofus (“doofus” is obviously an educated Medical's Directors terminology for someone who knows less than him)

If you're going to perpetuate a medical professional, learn the terminology. Better yet, grow up and stop lying to make yourself sound like something you're not.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 26, 2009 @ 1:13 am

And you're qualified, l'il zippie, to judge how one might “communicate like a doctor” precisely…how?

My background (ignominious as being “the VD doctor” was way back when) is pertinent to what I know of “sex workers” – that's the PC term nowadays, isn't it? – an issue raised in wolfie's spelling snerk above.

The clinic wasn't “STD specific” (it was a Health Underserved Rural Area [HURA] program established under Peanut-Boy's presidential administration), but we caught the dirty jobs in the proverbial tri-county area, and “VD clinic” was one of those dirty jobs.

And do I really need proof, zip? After all, “On the Internet, nobody can tell you're a dog.” Little stevie claims to be an ex-English major and a lawyer. Young jackie says she's a high-school teacher with a Master's in history. Who cares?

It's what goes up in the post, zipster. The CONTENT, not the curriculum vitae.

And what's wrong with my medical terminology? Jeez, I work mostly out of Stedman's, but I've also used Dorland's. What, you don't like either of those?

Just 'cause you find N. gonorrhoeae at Wikipedia (where they use “International English” – Brit-speak – instead of the American language) doesn't mean that N. gonococcus isn't a perfectly valid term for the pathogen. Check out the CDC Web site, why don'tcha?


wolverstone
Comment posted July 26, 2009 @ 4:49 pm

Doctor(?) Tuci78,
A bit touchy aren't we? How does your supposed medical background qualify you to throw insults around? And how does factually reporting on the Birthers imply the author must be a supporter of President Obama – not that there's anything wrong with that? Mr. Weigel was simply doing some very good analytical reporting. No need to suggest he prostituted himself in the process, Doctor. Show a little respect and maybe you'll deserve some as well.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 26, 2009 @ 9:15 pm

“A bit touchy,” wolfie? Moi? Nah! My medical background (and foreground) is no qualification at all – pro or con – in exchanges such as these. “On the Internet, nobody can tell you're a dog,” or words to that effect. You never heard of that?

And “factually reporting” on anything pertaining to Barry Soetoro, his ignominious past, his sordid present, and his inmate future is nothing that his partisans – perhaps better to call them “fellahin” – desire.

In fact, the evasion of factuality and their “burden of proof” responsibility to demonstrate that their gadabout golliwog, Barry Soetoro, actually IS qualified to squat upon the Presidential crapper is the sum and substance of the Obamaphile noise yammering on this and other online fora.

My reason for taking Weigel to task on his “prostitute” status is that he is also a Contributing Editor for Reason magazine, a periodical which – I'm sure – you, wolfie, do not read and have almost certainly never heard of.

Were Mr. Weigel a genuinely libertarian individual, he would be delighting in this and all other opportunities to throw a handful of rocks into the meatgrinder through which your Mombasa Messiah is shoving this country. That he's working on this Web site to denigrate the “birthers” is indicative of a certain – well, let's call it “moral flexibility” on his part.


wolverstone
Comment posted July 26, 2009 @ 9:33 pm

Actually, I'm a Reason subscriber and have been for several years. And I'm a fan of Mr. Weigel's writings; have been since he was Editor-in-Chief of the conservative weekly at Northwestern. I doubt very much that any of the highly qualified professionals at Reason would be happy to be associated with your vile, hateful vitriolic about President Barack Obama. Apparently you get more pleasure out of making inane, almost treasonous statements on blogs than making reasoned statements that might generate intelligent dialog. You, Sir, are the epitome of someone who is disagreeable when disagreeing. If you are indeed, a medical doctor, I strongly suspect your medical school is embarrassed to have you as a graduate.


Florida Buddhist
Comment posted July 26, 2009 @ 10:25 pm

Actually this Birther movement is killing the Republicans and thats why the liberals enjoy it so much.

A true conservative would be attacking Obama on policy grounds and working to get some else elected next time.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 26, 2009 @ 10:31 pm

Oh, good. Hail fellow well met, and all that. I think my first issue of Reason was the one in which they first wrote about Rural-Metro as a private-sector alternative to municipal fire and emergency medical services. Sometime in the '80s, I think.

As for what the “highly qualified professionals at Reason” would or would not “be happy to be associated with” when it comes to chucking “Brickbats” at statist sonsofbitches like Barry Soetoro, I assure you that it's only a matter of degree, not intention.

I take a rather more National Lampoon/The Onion approach to treating with screaming socialists and similar authoritarian asswipes. Chacun à son goût and all that.

And all this noise about “treasonable” from an Obamaphile, who's asking everybody to set aside the stringencies of the U.S. Constitution in order that his witless fantasies of “Hope” and “Change” be fulfilled upon the corpse of government under rule of law….

Well, the appreciation of irony really isn't your strong suite, is it, wolfie?


Tuci78
Comment posted July 27, 2009 @ 1:07 am

Certainly nothing wrong with “killing the Republicans,” is there, Siddhartha?

And what makes you think that “true conservatives” aren't ALSO “attacking” your beloved Mombasa Messiah “on policy grounds”?

Why wait for “next time” to throw your sordid sonofabitch out of the White House?


True Patriot
Comment posted July 27, 2009 @ 7:52 am

This is a great new video about the birth certificate issue. Everyone concerned about this issue NEEDS to watch it ASAP!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coCDRfh0AWg


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