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You are correct. McCain’s candidacy was an exercise in egg shell walking. He was a pathetic candidate. In hindsight, I should have not voted for him based upon his ineligibility and just sat out the presidential election. If Arnold has no hope of becoming president (not that I would support him), so should McCain and Obama. McCain is the perfect example of someone who is a citizen but not a natural born citizen. Obama is a fraud and a liar. He was born in Kenya. The clock is ticking on his presidency. I was pleased that the left-wing attack dog Chris Matthews (he had just lambasted Rep. John Campbell about the Posey bill), give G. Gordon Liddy (the G man) a wide berth in discussing the Obama Certification of Live Birth (COLB). At the end of the segment, Matthews indicated that some confirming information as to Obama’s Hawaii birth would be forthcoming in the next couple of weeks. He then asked Liddy if he would apologize and retract his position that Obama is a usurper. Liddy said he would go on the air immediately and do his mea culpas. The question remains: will Matthews do likewise if the information were to confirm a Kenya birth? If so, then he should call for Obama’s immediate resignation. In your dreams.

When ever I make a point on these blogs like this, I am called a sore loser, racist, kook, wing nut, birthers etc., because I do not come across as an Obama supporter.

No, it’s because people who question Obama’s citizenship *are* kooks and wingnuts. He has released a copy of the official Certification of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii, and the responsible state official has vouched for the validity of that document. This is the exact same type of document that I used to get my US Passport, it is *the* official, certified document required by the government as proof of citizenship. End of story.

Careful Maddan, you sound sympathetic to the politician you hate. Blackmailed by his Demo-’rats’ handlers? So he has been manipulated into this position? Seriously wow, such concern for a person you consider a foreigner.

President Obama does not have to bow and scrape and produce his long form birth certificate. He is a US citizen. But because he is a black US citizen, the “real Americans” that Palin talks about cannot accept him. Small minds,

What is your proof that he was born in another country? Do u know what a security clearence is? The F.B.I does a back ground ckeck on every president how did Obama slip thur/

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The whole “Million dollars to defend against it” is more b.s. That number has been completely fabricated.

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lol because you have to send lawyers to do work to tell these people to shut up that their claims have no standing. Lawyers arent free, even if you are defending your self from idiots with no basis for the claim.

Such a stupid argument.

You idiots are the only ones still harping about this, none of your defenders in the media can even handle a real conversation on the matter without being stumbled into an idiotic rant

Nothing says class like spewing lies about the President of your country.

He’s trying to litigate the definition of natural born citizen. He’ll lose that also. Especially since it appears that he’s trying to claim that since no one has “confirmed” that he’s a natural born citizen, he must be barred from office. Thats absurd. No judge will entertain that. And they lose all credibility by bringing up the Sarah Obama conspiracy theory.

The law is clear, you can be a dual citizen at birth and be a natural born citizen. Thats as clear as it gets. This raises no legitimate cause to hear the case(especially since there’s no law backing it) and to review the documents. The birthers need a shred of proof that he wasn’t born in Hawaii. They have to yet to present it. Asking Obama to prove their negative isn’t proof.

Oh yeah, I never question McCain’s sensibilities or decisions, obviously he’s perfect, especially since he chose (or was forced to accept, both options speak volumes about the man) Palin as his running mate.

Riiight.

As far as why he’d raise it when his own was in question? Either he felt secure in the knowledge he could legally run, or he felt secure that pointing the light at Obama’s citizenship would effectively refocus the laser-eyebeam level paranoia elsewhere.

Either way, it’s not rocket science. And “lol” at the phrase “non-believer” – this is political bollocks, not the coming of Christ. It’s not an issue of faith, it’s an issue of common sense.

If the McCain campaign had found anything that would have allowed them to credibly push this as an issue during the campaign they would have. Contrary to your deliberate misinterpretation of the article, McCain DID NOT raise this as an issue. He dug around to see if there was any dirt to be used to discredit Obama. When he didn’t find any, he moved on. Too bad nutjobs like you can’t do the same.

Dear lord your ignorance is painful to behold.

You can’t even apply for a passport with that yellow-parchment gold-seal footprint thingie that looks so impressive and original to you. You have to request an official document from your state and they will issue a certification of live birth. What that will look like and what will be on that, will vary from state to state. For example, mine does not have footprints and DOES in fact look exactly like a photocopy made onto a sheet of normal, uncoarse, un-rough paper with a blue border on it albeit the paper is watermarked. It has an embossed seal and a stamp with date of issuance from the registrar which is the year 2007 (just like Obama’s). It’s so very plain looking. This “thing that looks like a normal piece of paper” is the ONLY document acceptable when applying for a passport. They practically laughed at me when I presented my old parchment with footprints on it at the post office. This plain paper photocopy looking thing is exactly what Obama was issued from his state, what has been examined in person by fact checking organizations, photos of itall over the net showing the embossed seal etc; what has been verified by the State of Hawaii itself. Your delusions are nobody’s problem but your own, but a quick remedy would be for you to call the Hawaii Dept of Heath yourself and ask them if your claims are accurate about their official documents..and argue with them about how you “know better.” Then get back to us how that goes for you.

First, Mario Puzo wrote THE GODFATHER, among other novels, and died in 1999.

Second, your beef with the government arguing that there is no constitutional obligation in these cases isn’t Obama’s doing. It’s that of the framers. Once the Office of President is filled — which it has been — only Congress has the power to do what birthers are attempting to do with these lawsuits.

Your Doctor called and said to take your Med’s :-0

1) Yours is not “an orignal” it is a cute souvenir. It is not remotely acceptable as proof of citizenship when obtaining a federally issued passport.
2) Obama’s is real because it is the official document issued by the State of Hawaii to people born in Hawaii and it has been verified by them. All your parchment paper gold seal footprint spew and about how that constitutes “real proof” is pure b.s. and you’ve been called on it.

My official document, valid for obtaining a passport, has no gold seal. So you can just leave ALL OF THAT OUT of your argument, now, because you are repeatedly demonstrating you KNOW NOTHING about what you are saying. Because you are an ignorant hillbilly who has never even gone so far as to get a passport.

Thanks; I’d forgotten that.

You mean the same WND that vouched for the veracity of the birth certificate last year?

He HAS proven it; you’re simply a bowl of Fruit Loops.

Beautifully ironic.

Mcain did settle it, he had a team of lawyers look into it, they found nothing. Communism, you are so dumb, please explain what country Obama is “working for” and what he plans to gain from making the US a communist country.

The birfers are such gullible rubes that I’m considering selling fake documents and pictures on eBay which claim to be “undeniable evidence” that Obama was born in Kenya. Who knows how much these freaks would pay for some obvious forgery, in the vain hope they’d have “The Proof!”

Any idiot who thinks he/she has his/her ‘original’ birth certificate makes me wonder if they are mentally competent to discuss the issue.

The photo copy of original birth certificate has been done. It was shown to G.Gordon liddy on hardball. DUMMY

Your comment is a perfect example of the ignorance of the birthers.

Obama senior was never a citizen of Indonesia, you’re confusing him with Obama’s step-father. When Obama was born, neither of his parents had ever been to Kenya. In fact, Anne Dunham had never left the country.

As the article states, the law says that you cannot relinquish your citizenship unless you commit treason or formally renounce it, something Obama could not do when he was a child.

Since you don’t even know the basic facts of the situation, it’s no surprise that you believe this silly theory. This is what happens when you base your theory on someone’s blog.

1. “a paper printout of something” what else would something be printed on, if not paper?????

2. Who is “they” that supposedly sealed up all the records???? I guess “they” did this in hopes that someone “they” didn’t even know was going to run for president one day?????

3. Military officers have not been allowed to discharge from duty(?) or ignore orders to go overseas. The instance you are referring to (because there has only been one) resulted from a volunteer deciding that he did not want to go. As in this case the nutjob had already been dismissed from going by the military (they didn’t want him either apparently) long before the suit. He purposely enlisted and then unenlisted within the 30 day window. Again facts please.

Florida Christian you are in need of some serious help and meds because your paranoid beyond all belief and if not, then your an idiot!

OK – so I am not a US citizen, but as an outsider looking in, I am totally baffled that this is even discussed. Why are people wasting time, effort and money to debate this crazy argument? The world, outside of the US, is rolling its eyes. We are supposed to look up to the US? Tell me how when this is the hot topic.

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Dear Christian—I suppose that you are a Holocaust denier. I seriously believe that you should keep posting every insane idea contained in your noggin on as many sites as possible. You should also become the “birther” poster girl.
Held up to the light of day, you are as goofy as it gets, and a real good example of what extremism produces. I pray that firearms are being kept from your person, and that someone is monitoring your medication.

52novels,

I stand corrected. I should have said Mario Apuzzo Esq. my apologies.

You are right congress will have to action if it comes to that. Like I said I make no claims one way or another, I am not qualified to make that call.

We the people have the right to use the courts to obtain discovery and a fair ruling. I believe the courts can order congress to investigate or take action.

Going through the courts is how the people can keep the power of congress and the executive branch in check.

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Let us now see the Bush military record…why is that not shown in full form?

Dear imbecile ‘notsettled’, just because YOU do NOT want to acknowledge the obvious and the truth, does not mean that the rest of us “don’t know where he was born”. The world, except you small minded racist imbeciles, KNOW THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS INDEED BORN IN HAWAII. THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR OF HAWAII HAS ALSO VERIFIED THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA INDEED WAS BORN IN HAWAII! Why would a Republican Governor lie about this?
Just for being so stupid, you should get your citizenship revoked (if you are even a citizen of this country, which I doubt)Get a life!

have you seen his mothers passport? thought so! so you don’t know if she was a Indonesian citizen.also you cant have duel citizenship if you are an American citizen. so if i was you and thank God i am not i would use a different angle.

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Actually, you best keep the legislative and the executive branches in check through the ballot. And Congress can start the impeachment process right now without a successful court case. As for Kerchner v. Obama, it really is warmed over Berg v. Obama. Expect it to get kicked, too.

LOL!

Don’t forget that his father is actually Malcolm X. I always enjoyed that particular birther variant.

The original claim from karela was:”the Republican Governor of Hawaii that she has seen it and that it is authentic”.

That’s contradicted by what you quote. You’ve got copy ‘n’ paste mastered, now try reading.

Thomas Jefferson was one of the authors perhaps you could be more honest and pick up a book yourself before slamming someone else.
Authors of the US Constitution

A man named Gouverneur Morris of Pennsylvania was in charge of the committee to draft the final copy of the Constitution. Other men who had much to do with writing the Constitution included John Dickinson, Gouverneur Morris, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Thomas Paine, Edmund Randolph, James Madison, Roger Sherman, James Wilson, and George Wythe. Morris was given the task of putting all the convention’s resolutions and decisions into polished form. Morris actually “wrote” the Constitution. The original copy of the document is preserved in the National Archives Building in Washington, D.C.

Jacob Shallus who, at the time, was assistant clerk of the Pennsylvania State Assembly, and whose office was in the same building in which the Convention was held, was given the task of engrossing the Constitution prior to its being signed.

Here is more input from others:

* The U.S. Constitution is the work of several men, directly and indirectly. The three most notable persons whose work influenced the Constitution but who were not involved in its writing are Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and Thomas Paine. The group of men involved in the writing of the Constitution are generally referred to as the “framers”.

* No single individual wrote it. Twelve of the thirteen states sent delegates to the Constitutional Convention to revise the Articles of Confederation and the entire convention worked on it. After the political questions were hashed out a ‘committee of style’ was formed to put the ideas into formal words. It is generally accepted that Gouverneur Morris created most of the actual wording included in the final draft from the Committee of Style.

* Primary Author: James Madison (Drafted the Virginia Plan)
* The original copy of the document is preserved in the National Archives Building in Washington, D.C.

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Agreed. Otherwise these rumors will continue.

LOL, another lie!

There is no doubt that Okubo said just what Weigel quoted her as saying. People born outside the country simply do not get COLBs saying that they were born in Honolulu.

You then concocted your own trumped-up version of what Weigel said. It was a lie, and of course Okubo refused to confirm it.

You’re not fooling anyone with this BS, you know!

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Prove you were born in the U.S. to someone who discounts your birth certificate, your driver’s license, your passport AND a vetting by the Secret Service and your presidential opponent’s researchers. At that point, there is nothing you could say that would convince someone other than a trip back in time and an invitation in to see the actual birth.
Of course Obama has provided MORE than this. We have an official certification from the appropriate office in Hawaii, we have a statement from the Republican Governor of Hawaii. We have two birth announcements in local Hawaiian news papers.

Tell wise one. What would put this to rest for you?
The answer is nothing. No one in the US could prove any more clearly that they were born in the US to anyone unless the doubter were in the delivery room. I suspect their hatred of Obama would probably be strong enough to rework their memories anyway. If Obama’s parents took video of his wife driving to the hospital and continuously filmed to the delivery, someone would claim the film was doctored.

Obama has bent over backward and proved beyond a doubt that he is a citizen. Could you get an affidavit from the Governor of your birth state?

This is all fueled by hatred. I personally believe that hatred is partial based on racism and partially based on the fear ginned up for decades by the Republicans.
The RNC would rather see a civil war than Democratic control.

http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf
This is from the Official Goverment Site for the State of Hawaii.
I believe it is you who needs to stop lying.

You may not agree with the arguments, but a photo copy from Hawaii isn’t enough to “prove” he was born in Hawaii.

The document that was posted on the web was an original COLB from the State of Hawaii, the authenticity of which has been verified by the director of the responsible state department.

The point is they won’t release his birth records.

He did, see above.

There is no evidence to prove he was born in Hawaii.

Other than the official document provided by the state of Hawaii, the same one that can be used to apply for a US passport. In other words, absolute evidence.

I have an original, typed, signed birth certificate from 50 years ago. The government would not accept it when I applied for my passport, they wanted the state issued COLB, just like the one that Obama has.

You people are really clueless.

He was an American citizen..he has an American passport. When he got his Presidential passport you think that the CIA and the Security Department never gave him a back ground check…? And what do you mean pass ports? We only get one.

Oh and brainiac…he traveled from the US to Pakistan. It was a trip with a college friend. He was only in Indonesia for four years and left there at the age of 6.

Your first comment is incorrect. If you were to print out this photoshopped piece of shit, the passport issuer would send you home. So, first of all, posting incorrect info to try to sound authoritative.

Secnd point about the truth, seems to apply more to you based on #1 above.

The rest of it is ignorant drivel, only worth clarification in that this is for many (and there are MANY and growing) people, a matter of constitutional law, and not personal bias. You however seem to be pretty satisfied blidly accusing many around you of racism,etc– If anything you seem to destroy your own credibility while at the same time lending credence to those who pursue this issue because of a love for the rule of the law of our nation, rather than blind allegiance to the office of the presidency.

LOL. No matter how many times you write out the facts of the matter in clear, concise terms, some birther moron is waiting in the wings, looking for the smallest detail to pounce on.

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“Obamas mother gave a sworn affidavit that she witnessed his birth in Kenya! ”

Think about this sentence you wrote, Mr. “H.” If you cannot see how stupid it is, you should ask your handlers to put you back into your straitjacket.

Judas Guttenberg..

Translation: I can’t believe this Biracial man of African-Caucasian Descent is My [President]

I Will do all I can to keep up this Ridiculous Theory along with other Hate Filled, Bitter and Hateful [Whites]

Pre-Campaign [2012] is in Effect

Motto-Credo: “Whites Only In the White House”
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You Low Life Sea Slug !!

David, you write and write, You know in your heart of hearts that something is dreadfully wrong in this matter of Obama's eligibility> For it all to go away, all he has to do is release his birth certificate, college records to show he wasn't a foreign student, and take responsibility for a fraudlent SELECTIVE SERVICE registration. As a writer , why don't you write an article that has the headline PLEASE MR. PRESIDENT, RELEASE YOUR RECORDS SO THESE IDIOTS GO AWAY. John Mc Cain is a goofy old bastard that brought his honor to a knife fight with Obama and got gutted. Mc Cain didn't want to be seen as a racist, he was beyond just talking about a racist and bigot that was ssObama's minister for 20 years. Roland Martin made a fool of himself last night on Dobbs, he made the comment ” we have 39 million people who still thinks the president is a Muslim, ” I wonder why? He goes to a muslim country and says ” American is no longer a christain nation, then goes to Cario and tells the world , America is one of the larger muslim countries, (39th) Maybe if Obama didn't act like a muslim ( THE DESTRUCTION OF CAPITALISM, THE RISE OF ISLAM ) the theme of the Islam convention last week in Chicago. ONe would have to be short of being an idiot not to see that he is a muslim, raised a muslim , just lied to become the president. David, you are pathetic, can't you just focus on forcing the president to release his records.; Or are you as desperate as Roland Martin was last night on Dobbs. The truth about the presidnet will come out.

David, you write and write, You know in your heart of hearts that something is dreadfully wrong in this matter of Obama's eligibility> For it all to go away, all he has to do is release his birth certificate, college records to show he wasn't a foreign student, and take responsibility for a fraudlent SELECTIVE SERVICE registration. As a writer , why don't you write an article that has the headline PLEASE MR. PRESIDENT, RELEASE YOUR RECORDS SO THESE IDIOTS GO AWAY. John Mc Cain is a goofy old bastard that brought his honor to a knife fight with Obama and got gutted. Mc Cain didn't want to be seen as a racist, he was beyond just talking about a racist and bigot that was ssObama's minister for 20 years. Roland Martin made a fool of himself last night on Dobbs, he made the comment ” we have 39 million people who still thinks the president is a Muslim, ” I wonder why? He goes to a muslim country and says ” American is no longer a christain nation, then goes to Cario and tells the world , America is one of the larger muslim countries, (39th) Maybe if Obama didn't act like a muslim ( THE DESTRUCTION OF CAPITALISM, THE RISE OF ISLAM ) the theme of the Islam convention last week in Chicago. ONe would have to be short of being an idiot not to see that he is a muslim, raised a muslim , just lied to become the president. David, you are pathetic, can't you just focus on forcing the president to release his records.; Or are you as desperate as Roland Martin was last night on Dobbs. The truth about the presidnet will come out.

People have questions about the content of the Long Form Birth Certifcate. This letter only states that the director has “personally” seen and verified.

The reason the official birth certificate it is prohibited to be release to others because Obama sealed it. It is on him unless he is suited in court to release it.

There is no point arguing something neither party can proof or disprove if the question is not the COLB or other online copies. If there is a question of the facts..you check the original facts not a copy.

Polonius, fool.

That’s Domesday Book Retard…

Read and Grow…

Note the careful wording – “…on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”

What it does NOT say is Obama’s place of birth is verified. What hospital? What attending physician? The long form will have that.
Additionally Hawaii is a (surprise!) a chain of islands. Births (especially as far back as 1961) could be delayed in being reported.
So O’Dumbo could have been born in Kenya as his Grandmother says and momma gets him to Hawaii some time later & ‘reports’ the birth. Hawaii (at that time & perhaps still) would issue the COLB on the basis of the ‘report’. No way to verify.

Same with the paper – they accept notices from anyone. So ‘legitimizing’ BHO sr.’s bastard son would be easy enough.

That’s Domesday Book Retard…

Read and Grow…

Nobody’s kept quiet, and – as has been verified many, many times – independent experts have seen the original birth certificate and testified under oath that it’s okay. The reason the story is still around is that facts and testimony and reason are of no interest to the people who sell this patently absurd and repeatedly disproven nonsense to gullible fools.

Actually, the Republican Governor of Hawaii swears by the birth certificate his state issued.

Not that a Birther would believe the truth staring right in front of them.

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Oh how sorry I am for the BIRTHERS when MY SON, a half white, quarter indian and quarter black man begins his run for the PRESIDENCY in or around 2029. He will be 49 years old then, JUST RIGHT for the President of the United States. So I am Jamaican, his great grand father is Scottish, the others are Indian and Welsh – what are you going to DO?

HE WAS BORN IN ILLINOIS – and I have the certificate to prove it. He is fairer skinned than Obama, and without his hair, might ( MIGHT) pass for white. Will you be happy then?? But the mother (me) IS BLACK! WHUT YOU GONNA DO? WHAT YOU GONNA DO??

Sigh…

So much anger, so little time. The birth certificate has been handled, examined, and verified as authentic.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Exactly.
When I applied for a U.S. passport a couple of years ago, I ran into difficulty because the federal government did not recognize my original hospital birth certificate as an official record of birth–it lacked the necessary embossed, notarized seal from the local county.

So I had to apply to the state government for an official, notarized record of birth, which required filling out forms, paying fees, supplying other documentation, and waiting 8 weeks for them to confirm the validity of the information with the local county records office.

So my official birth certificate, the one that the federal government recognizes, is the same type that Obama has in Hawaii.

Its always hilarious that the birthers tards are always trying to prove a negative. No matter what is released to them, they'll claim its a forgery or part of the conspiracy.

Dang, it’s like talking to a wall with you faith-based dimwits. He has produced more documentation than any other president has because you have a problem with non-white people being as Uhmerrican as you.

I say we all stand up and pledge allegiance to this great nation of ours!

Justice is an impartial discovery, hearing and ruling of the evidence.

The Kangaroo Court of the media and the blogisphere is not the place to judge the accusations.

To me this case is not about a 48 year old piece of paper but our Constitutional Right to petition the government for a redress of our grievances.

Obama's defense has been that the government has no constitutional obligation to hear the grievance and that ordinary people have no standing in the courts.

I make no claims one way or another in regards to his eligibility. I have read the arguments on both sides. The evidence requested by the plaintiffs is simple to produce. Their opposition is not an honorable position.

One would think that Obama would honor his oath to defend the constitution, face his accusers and make his case for the good of the country.

When ever I make a point on these blogs like this, I am called a sore loser, racist, kook, wing nut, birthers etc., because I do not come across as an Obama supporter. Oh well, the right to petition our government for a redress our grievances and to be heard and judged impartially is something I will give my life to defend.

God Bless you and your families.

“forensic evidence by liscensed (sic) profession document examiners”
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I fear those words do not mean what you think they do.

Please tell us exactly WHAT forensic evidence you refer to and by which “liscensed (sic) professional document examiners”…Oh, and don’t even try to rely on the anonymous crap written by the internet personality who calls himself “Polarik”

There's nothing wrong with petitioning the government through the courts to address grievances you may have. But when the state of Hawaii and their republican governor confirm that Obama was born in Hawaii as he claims, you're going to need some hard evidence that Obama and the state of Hawaii are lying to force a hearing. Just demanding that your questions be answered isn't enough.

But Eyck, they are patriots! They want their country back! Is that so bad?

I say we all stand and pledge allegiance and take a polygraph to prove we’re american!

YES! And with a Sarah Palin-Michele Bachmann Double-Down on Crazy ticket!

So, all those racist comments and signs at the McPain-Failin rallies were part of the eggshell strategy? Interesting.

What would the circus have looked like if they really went nuts?

Oh! The horror!!! Those evil Democrats! Who could survive in a world without war where we are all forced to have health care! lol. This was a hilarious post…only topped off by the suggestion of Palin/Plummer ’12. Comedy Central is probably taking applications. You should look into it.

The only reason this is a issue is because some of right can”t stand the fact that a Black man is in the White House

I am not going to resort to ad hominem attacks. I would just like to point out that the 14th Amendment says “citizen” it does not say “natural born citizen.” The term of art “natural born citizen” only appears in the constitution when discussing the qualification of the POTUS and the VPOTUS. So the 14th does not obviously obviate the qualification in Article II. Also, all of the cases in this area are citizenship cases. There has never been a presidential qualification case wherein “natural born citizen” has been defined. We simply do not know how the SCOTUS will apply the term “natural born citizen” to a dual citizen. It might mean, as you suggest, anyone who is a citizen at birth. Or it might mean someone who is only a US citizen at birth, and would exclude anyone born with dual citizenship, dual allegiances and divided loyalty. We just do not know. And I am certainly not going to call someone an idiot for think one or the other interpretation is correct.

You lost. You old man and clown woman lost. Accept this and go home.

Obama

Why spend a million dollars in legal fees to prolong the question when you can show the real long form certified birth certificate already in your possession and end the issue. Just because you are President, you are still expected to obey the law. Nixon (White guy) is a good example if you took a America history class.

The POTUS' cannot release the original birth certificate by law it has to stay in Hawaii with the Dept. of Health. Copies have been released to numerous news papers and websites. As long as people want to use this faux argument to hide behind so they can express there racism and hatred this will be around.

Mayee this was never a christian nation. It was founded by many that were christians but they chose wisely to keep the government secular. Read the Treaty of Tripoli which was ratified by congress in 1797
“Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”

Read the letters of Franklin, Jefferson and others and you will see that most of the founding fathers felt it was best to keep government and religion seperate.

I lost count of the number of faulty claims and misquotations in Mayree’s comment above.

However, here’s a few:
“…brought his honor to a knife fight with Obama and got gutted…”
(the usual aphorism is “brought a knife to a gun fight”);
“…goes to a muslim country and says, ‘American (sp) is no longer a christain (sp) nation, then goes to Cario (sp) and tells the world, America is one of the larger muslim countries…”
(the true quotes are: 1) “we have a very large Christian population — we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values.” and 2) “And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world. And so there’s got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.”

I hesitate to throw your words back at you, Mayree, but yes, you’d have to be short of being an idiot…to accept what YOU said instead of what the President actually really said, which was to acknowledge that there ARE considerable numbers of Christians AND Muslims AND Jews (and a lot of Buddhists, Wiccans, Druids, and atheists, too) in the United States/America.

I also lost count of the misspellings… :) …a common problem amongst “birthers” and other wingnuts.

Suhweet!

Did you demand to see the long form birth certificate of previous presidential candidates and candidates? No? Why not? Because they were white? You won't admit it, but that is most definitely the reason.

Yeah, except Obama DID provide every thing he was required to provide. The only people screeching about it and making crap up to discredit him are the racists who can’t stand a president who isn’t all white.

He showed what he needed to show. It has been validated and revalidated. Get over it.

kenthewaterproofer President Obama has produced his birth certificate and the state of Hawaii has confirmed it. The Republican Senator in Hawaii has confirmed it. There are 2 newspapers with birth announcements. Any bone headed moron would get it after all of this evidence. No more of this wasting the courts time. The Supreme Court ruled on it in December of 08. It's time for this crap to stop. Stupid, stupid people. You just can't stand that a black man is president. Get over it and grow a brain.

Your “acts like a Muslim” comment makes about as little sense as something can. No “evidence” you give about him being a Muslim has ANYTHING to do with being a Muslim. Pathetic anti-Obama nut grasping at straws.

There is plenty of evidence showing Obama is a natural born US citizen and ZERO evidence even suggesting he wasn't born here. I have never seen Bush's birth certificate so should I assume UNTIL I see a physical copy of his birth records that he is a foreigner?

Again, nothing you said about Obama isn't insane ramblings of someone who just hates the President… nothing more.

Did you just suggest World Net Daily for “truth”? OMG! Hahahahahahahahahaahhahahhaah.

these people are nothing but fifth columnists.

The only reason this is an issue is because most of the right can't stand the fact that a socialist is in the White House.

That, and the fact that if he actually was born in another country, he is not eligible to be president, as per the Constitution.

Muslim is a religion not a nationality. The fact you can't grasp that lil bit of fact shows your prejudice and racial views are really the motive behind the whole is he eligible crap.

The truth has come out. The state of Hawaii has stated he was born there. Every case has been thrown out.

Relax, in 25-50 years you will be the minority and we promise to not treat you as you have treated us.

they do not want the birth certificate. they want the hospital record with the foot prints on it. as far as i know most people are not in possesion of those. president obama's birth certificate has more information on it than mine from indiana.

Dear God, how can we make progress in the USA with such stupid morons as “birthers” among us? Dear God, help us–we're doomed.

I agree that we have the right to petition — but I also believe this should not be abused to the point of absurdity. Do you and others believe that if the President was born somewhere other than the United States, his parents decided upon his birth that they would need to falsify a birth certificate in Hawaii! What utter nonsense and a complete waste of money to continue this blatant racist attack.

@ Mayree

Your post is a perfect example of the baseless anti-Obama rants that have become typical.

You offer no PROOF that Obama isn't a citizen or that he is a Muslim but instead present your gut feelings as evidence. You “having a feeling” that he is a Muslim who is ineligible to be president wont hold up in court.

Take your baseless HATE someplace else.

@ Mayree

Your post is a perfect example of the baseless anti-Obama rants that have become typical.

You offer no PROOF that Obama isn't a citizen or that he is a Muslim but instead present your gut feelings as evidence. You “having a feeling” that he is a Muslim who is ineligible to be president wont hold up in court.

Take your baseless HATE someplace else.

you are a moron.

Why wasn't Bush Jr. asked to provide his birth certificate? Or Clinton, or Bush Sr., or Reagan, or Carter, or Ford, or Nixon? Hmmm, what's the obvious difference between President Obama and those that preceded him….strange this issue just cropped up this time around.

This is just another right wingnut tactic to divert attention away from the real problems our country faces- those they also refuse to address. It's ridiculous, sad and nothing more than moronic racial politics used by bigots who can't accept that we elected a person of color as president.

the evidence was produced and you are a moron.

Please. If Will Smith was president, no one would question his citizenship. Get off your high horse.

you are not only a moron but an idiot. is this story linked to drudge?

Stay classy, ric.

These birthers are nothing but wackjobs. They will never stop this so what's the point in blogging about it. It wouldn't matter if they had a picture of Aug 4 1961 newspaper with Obama's mother and father having sex on that day. Doesn't matter to them. They are non-thinking uneducated and ignorant morons. This is what they believe and no amount of evidence will deter them from thinking the way they want to. Twisted, warped, sick in the head people. You can't even insult them because they're too stupid to know they're being insulted by about 80% of the American population.

A teensy bit of wisdom can be a dangerous thing when it is standing alone in a lunar landscape of a brain.

SPECOPS

There are many black US citizens would make an excellent president. We happen to have a weak minded black man with a soiled past who is being blackmailed by his Demo-rats handlers.

As long as this issue is being discussed by the GOP it makes them look like a bunch of kooks and this is a good thing for President Obama and the Democrats.. That is why Obama will not do anything to make this go away.

It is politically beneficial for him to have people see the GOP as nothing but political gad flies.

[...] Obama Birthers, please calm down. You’re giving Chris Matthews a thrill up his leg.  Besides, the bigger problem is that [...]

There has been an INCREDIBLE amount of evidence shown that he IS a citizen eligible to be President and there is NO evidence to the contrary.

Courts have heard the arguments enough to show that they have NO merit and the media has completely debunked the myth. The President going further is just giving a national platform to pathetic radical right wing fringe groups.

When a political party has no discernible, positive platform to run on that will appeal to the majority of voters, you get this: Find something, ANYTHING that will rile the base and get some Independents on your side.
This crap continues to this day with Sessions proclaiming Obama's health care plan as a Waterloo moment. Meantime, on the DixiePubs website (my new name for the Republican Party) the only thing they can offer on health care is–you guess it–tax breaks to pay for a plan.
Waterloo moment, indeed . . .

Dear Birthers

Obama already presented his birth certificate to the people that matter. NO ONE gets an original copy of their birth certificate. If you go to the DMV, you bring your certificate of live birth, not your original birth certificate. He's the president (and legally, I might add), he doesn't have to do any more to prove his citizenship than he already has. If you had good evidence, you would have a case. But you don't. So deal with it and shut up.

The funny thing is, you don't even know what you would do if by some reversal of the planets that Obama was somehow president illegally. What then? Biden is president? Pelosi? Or maybe you think there will be a reelection and Sarah Palin will be our new president. LOL. What exactly is your plan of action besides being racist and frustrated?

Have fun looking like the stupidest people in the world.

Sincerely,
America

I want this issue to be the number one thing the GOP talks about right up until election day…

Chad,

If you have time, read the legal documents for the case Kerchner vs. Obama at http://puzo1.blogspot.com/. I think that this case has the best chance of being heard soon. Mario Puzo is a competent attorney and the case and the blog is not being run like a three ring money making circus like similar operations.

The government lawyers said in their recent motion to dismiss, that the government has no constitutional obligation to hear the grievances of the citizens that hit me like a punch in the gut.

The government lawyers have not raised the vague statements made by Hawaiian officials as proof that the charges are bogus. Mario Puzo addresses the Statements by the Hawaiian officials.

I believe that there is legitimate cause for the court to hear the case and review the documents.

Respectfully,

Ken

Why should Obama respond to those fools, and dignify their lunatic lawsuits? If the Reich Wingers have learned anything about that man, they should understand that he won't be pushed where he doesn't want to go.
After all, the matter is a moot point now anyway. Obama is the President and that genie can't be put back in the bottle.
The reason that I know that Obama is a natural born citizen? Do you think that Hillary Clinton would have allowed him on the primary ballots if there was a chance in hell that he was ineligible for office?

What would happen IF everyone commenting had to know by seeing for themselves and verification: how many comments would their be?
As for those who quote early founders not being qualified and try to equate them with Barry: this is 2009!
And no not all suits have been thrown out.
And ACORN is being prosecuted nation-wide: thus I suppose a lot of you defending something you cannot verify would defend them, too.
Amazing that we have l8-62 year olds as US Troops being systematically sacrificed on foreign soil each generation for this: and OPEN BORDERS USA Criminal Illegal Alien Invaders and drug runners and heathen breeders for auyto-welfare citizenship for birthing from womb to tomb now 8 EIGHT generations on the backs of the diminishing working citizens of generations as taxpayers. Keep defending your whims…see where you end up..
What a waste: compare the two keyboards who think they are cute versus someone giving their life for Y O U
Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them DO Unto You

“A love for the rule of law”? You’ve got to be kidding, right? Any problems with that during the Bush and Cheney National Nightmare? Eavesdropping sound familiar? Torture? Use of Motherland Security to spy on domestic groups? If you people had any sense of decency you would be ashamed of yourselves, like the rest of the world is.

Mayree you need to go back and read the entire article again. For example:

“Berg’s filings made other claims that have shown up in anti-Obama lawsuits and in the proliferation of “birther” Website. One relies on an audio tape of Obama’s step-grandmother Sarah Obama, who lives in Kenya, being goaded into saying (through a translator) that the future president was born in Kenya before quickly correcting herself. (A doctored version of this tape, which cuts off before the retraction, is posted on YouTube.) Another claim: Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981, when it was illegal for an American to do so, suggesting that he used a non-American passport. The problem is that there never was any such ban.”

and…

“‘Birthers’ who refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth often cite the expertise of “Dr. Ron Polarik,” a self-described “expert in computer graphics” who maintains a blog at Townhall.com and has recorded a video, in which his face and voice are blurred, explaining how the image was “forged” with Adobe Photoshop. “Polarik” submitted an affidavit in support Orly Taitz’s Keyes case that is signed “XXXXXXXXXXX,” making it inadmissible.”

and, particularly troubling…

“Apuzzo is not convinced. He argued that the founders wrote the phrase “natural born citizen” for a reason; to make sure that no one with “blood ties” to another country could become president. He speculated what might happen if Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-La.), whose parents were Indian, became president. “India is a nuclear power. Here comes the president, who says we have to go in and attack Pakistan. Are we doing that because we are defending India’s interests? You just don’t know. You can’t have Constitutional rule if you allow this.”

This would mean the native americans are the only people with rights to be here, and we'll have to go back to the countries where we have “blood ties”. What country are you from Mayree? My “blood ties” are to Ireland.

Jaynez

Please stop playing the race card and answer the question why spend a million dollars when a $12.00 certified long form birth certificate from Hawaii would put an end to the question. It appears that you are the racist in this matter.

Stupid, stupid. It's been debunked by the MSM, The Supreme Court, The Republican Senator of Hawaii and 2 birth announcements in 1961 newspapers. Grow a brain! Moronic imbecil.

How ironic that one of Keyes' lawyers is named Kreep….

The “Obama is a Socialist” argument was created by the McCain campaign as a last ditch effort to not get destroyed in the polls. There is nothing NOTHING Obama is doing that would classify as Socialist.

We are the ONLY wealthy, industrialized nation without universal health care… Does that make EVERY other wealthy, industrial western nation Socialist? NO… We aren't the only Democratic country in the world left.

Socialist = right wing buzz word. Pathetic.

Not true. Noone disputes that his mother is an American citizen, which I have to point out, makes him a 'natural born' US citizen regardless of where his birth took place. If his father was the US citizen and his mother not, then and only then, would the location be an issue

Linking to nudie Photoshops of the President’s mother – that’s mature.

The whole “Birther” embarrassment is nothing more than evidence of how creative racism can be. People!!! If you are one of those people so hung up on race, life will get progressively harder for you because you live in a world of many colors and persuasions of human being. IF you REALLY believe God created us all equal, if you believe the Constitution of the United States is the operative document of this republic, then you have no case. Nobody once has challenged Arnold Schwarzenegger [a naturalized citizen, born in Germany] or his right to act as Governor of tone of the largest American states. Look in the mirror. What is REALLY going on with you? It will take all of us the fix this country.

This is the Republican's gift to the Democratic Party.

So why do you insist this black man isn't a citizen when there exists not ONE piece of evidence that he isn't?

All that typing and you could have summarized it by simply saying “I am dumb as a rock.”

I had to laugh when Gary Kreep says “if it ever comes down to it, we'll use his real name” about “Dr. Ron Polarik.” Polarik will never share his real name, nor will he ever appear in a court of law. His credentials change constantly, and he refuses to state where he earned his alleged degree. Polarik is a fraud.

No one has added more fuel to the fire with this birth certificate conspiracy nonsense than this Polarik character. He has done immeausurable damage to the Republican party and the conservative moment by posting one lie after another. Just google Polarik on a google blog search, and his schizophrenia has been well documented.

A smart move by “Panama Reb” McCain's handlers considering this Manchurian Candidate truly was born on foreign soil and never produced a US birth certificate.

Well said!

What most “birther” nitwits don’t seem to get through their thick skulls is that “a copy of the official Certification of Live Birth” for President Obama — the one that everyone has seen posted on the Internet — is the SAME KIND OF DOCUMENT as the one that wingnut woman in the red shirt at the town hall meeting with Rep. Mike Castle of Delaware waved around in a ziploc bag during her rant.

NO ONE has their true original birth certificate in their own sweaty hands (or in a safe deposit box or safe), including that raving “birther” woman at the town hall meeting. They have a COPY that’s been prepared by the county/district/borough Office of Records staff from the ORIGINAL which is kept in protected vault storage (hopefully safe unless the building actually burns down to a smoky cinder or is destroyed in a lava flow — not likely on Oahu — it’s a good thing Obama wasn’t born in Hilo on the Big Island).

That COPY is then stamped or embossed with the seal of the county/district/borough of birth and verified by the agent responsible for the storage of the document.

The only difference between an old-time handwritten COPY and the one that’s on the Internet for Obama is that Obama’s COPY is an updated-technology version. Some counties/districts/boroughs have modernized their technology….

Most people don’t get an updated copy of their original birth certificate unless they lose the one they’d been holding onto for years, or, in Obama’s case, a timely updated version is more readable than one that’s traveled in a worn envelope through 40+ years and a number of localities in several countries.

It’s bizarre that this is beyond the understanding of presumably educated “birther” people.

It seems that hatred knows no bounds. Those who continue to challenge our President's citizenship are sadly filled with unreasoning hate. What a waste of energy.

One of the better articles I have reaad on the subject. Author does a very good job of getting into the inner workings and legal “reasonings” of those who have taken this ludicrous posiiton as the truth.

One of the better articles I have reaad on the subject. Author does a very good job of getting into the inner workings and legal “reasonings” of those who have taken this ludicrous posiiton as the truth.

Just as after the Civil War black men were subjected to tests in order to vote, tests that had no right answers or the answers were changed at will, there is a certain faction of white people who cannot comprehend a black man having all of the same rights and will go to great length to harass them so they feel superior. This is a ridiculous throwback to a shameful tactic used by small insignificant people who should question their own patriotism for wasting time and resources on such a racist action.

this will not go away because, you cannot prove a negative. An official copy with a raised seal from Hawaii could be delivered to every person in the US and they still would not believe because they don't want to believe.

CNN and Fox will keep up with it since it appears to bring in ratings.

I double-dog dare you to furnish proof – real, verifiable, proof – that you know whether or not Obama ever had an FBI Security check. Please, enlighten us OBOTS with the wonder of your vast knowledge of the inner workings of the FBI, not to mention the Senate proceedures for dissemination of Classified material to members of the Senate. Or, in the wonderland that is your brain, do you think they just hand out classified material to anyone who gets elected?

And if you do research for a living, I hope you’re doing it better there than what you’re posting here; because you have been posting lies, rumors, and misleading information and some really, REALLY bad, shoddy excuses for research..

Including your crap about Hawaii’s Dr. Onaka denying that a certificate had been issued. I researched that. You know, just cause some jackass on d a right-wing blog says it’s true is NOT proof. So, if you have any proof OTHER than an unverified, heresay quote from someone with an agneda, please let us know.

Cause so far, all you’ve proven here today is the following:
1. you hate Obama
2. you know how to cut and paste.
3. you willingly substitute opinion for facts
and,
4. you know how to work the caps key.

Why don’t you get off the right-wing hate sites and do some REAL research. then you can come back and apologize.

SethlandPony

You said it in nutshell. What do you mean “The people that matter”? It was thought that all US citizens had a right to be concerned with their government. Did not Lincoln say: “Of the people -By the people and For the People”? Is it now the principle of the left winged Demo-rats: “The people that matter”?

Oh, I'm sure you would be questioning Will Smith's birth certificate. Don't go there with that BS.

How’s it feel to have your lame argument stuffed back into your face, patriot boy? Do tell the world where exactly you came from with your golden piece of paper. Texas or Tennessee?

MADDAN – you are one sorry racist person. Too bad for you that a black man is President. Get over it! Be careful with your racist comments because what goes around comes around.

The truth of the matter is that if there was nothing to it, the media wouldn't waste their time with it.

Why on earth would McCain raise the issue when his eligibility was in question as well? That would be a bit stupid!

Check out http://www.wnd.com. Pre purchase a copy of the dvd that explains the birthers position. I believe many of you non believers will begin to have questions after you review the dvd.

[...] thing never came up during the presidential race? Oh wait, that’s be cause the McCain Campaign investigated the rumors but found no evidence that Obama was not an American citizen. (Washington [...]

THESE LAW SUITS WILL CONTINUE TILL THE PEOPLE WHO ALL FILES LAW SUITS AGAINST ANY THAT GOES AGAINST OR VIOLATES ANY PROVISIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION AND OR IS FOUND TO HAVE BEEN FILED TO HARASS A PERSON, SHOULD BE CONVICTED TO SUFFER LIFE IMPRISONMENT.

Remember, these birthers are the same people who voted for Bush/Cheney…twice. Were they concerned about Bush's missing documents that indicate he went AWOL from TANG? No, they had no problems with that. When confronted with all of the evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii, they just can't accept the facts. No wonder this country is rapidly becoming 2nd world. While the rest of the industrialized nations are focused on the 21st century, we have 1/3 of our population determined to walk us back to the Dark Ages.

Can't we just give them Texas and let them all degenerate naturally?

Seriously, folks, this is getting truly ridiculous. I'm afraid that the “birthers” need their meds upped immediately. Please, get some help, at once.

Maddan,
You are ridiculous and America is getting tired of the reverse racism card. It's used up. Birthers cannot stand that a black man is the leader and keep demanding what YOU decide is proof (but it changes anytime the standard is met). You ignore what the state of Hawaii says is acceptable. Are you so small town that you don't realize states vary on their guidelines concerning birth certificates or is it simply that you don't like the answer you get invalidating your pipe dream?

Show the long form birth certificate and end it all. A COLB is worthless. Sun Yat Sen, a Chineese citizen, has a Hawaii COLB. He became President of China in th 20's.

Explain the birth announcements in the newspapers? Do you REALLY beleive that some wild conspiracy to elect a Kenyan to be POTUS started 48 years ago and includes among hundreds of others, the staff of two newspapers, the hospital, and the current Republican Governor of Hawaii? It would be absolutely impossible to keep a secret that requires the participation of that many people!

Your facts regarding what the Constitution states are completely wrong… it does not actually define Natural Born Citizen. Do you belive that McCain is a Natural Born Citizen? The fact that he was born in Panama is not disputed.

I’ve seen your Mama’s pants part. Does that count?

Have you seen Barbara Bush’s maternal grandpa’s driver’s license? I thought not.

Well, that also explains Bush’s missing paper trail that convinced most Americans that he went AWOL from TANG. Obama stole them! Quick…someone let wnd know. I can see a new DVD coming soon that will blow this time travel thing wide open!

“The truth of the matter is that if there was nothing to it, the media wouldn't waste their time with it.”

But the media pays attention to Palin's ethic violations and its because they're the liberal elite media. She's found guilty and pays fines and still says she has never been found guilty and the media is up to something for reporting it.

Nice theory. One more dispelled.

Why dress this in a gab of legality that it doesn't deserve. Birthers should just characterize what they are doing, and all reasonable people, should see what they are doing for what it is: racism. Thank God Americans, especially the new generation, are pushing us into a new, higher level of consciousness that recognizes the oneness and unity of all humanity.

“The people that matter” are the nearly 70 million citizens who cast their ballots in favor of President Obama last November.

Birthers go home! You are all just a bunch of sore losers. You lost fair and square and are now just trying to change the out come of the election through you disgusting rantings and ravings. Your man, BUSH had his chance, for 8 years, and look what he did to our country, almost destroyed it. And did we hear you guys rallying to see his birth certificate? No we did not. And when you stand up at your lynch mob rallies and say ” We want our country back”, “Take our country Back”, who do you want it back from? Do you want it back from Obama the president of the United States or Obama the African American you so much hate?

You are stil a racist!

You just read that NO state department ever release the original document, but provide official copies. I don't know where you get this $12.00 fee from, but you are full of racist bullcrap.

Just admit that you don't like the guy because he is black and move on. I may not agree with you, however I would respect your views if you, at least, admit them.

This is interesting because McCain was born outside of the US and his citizenship status was also challenged. Geez, get a grip folks.

Dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum de dum.

The wnd loves rubes like you that'll spend your money on dvd's that feed your fantasy. Have at it…make sure you also get the 40th anniversary limited edition of the “1969 Moon Landing Scam” – when it comes to crazy, best to be all in.

Every time a birther is shown a web link to, or hard copy of Obama's official birth certificate (you know, the one that is recognized by the federal government when applying for a passport), they pull the equivalent of a 9-year old covering his ears and shouting “nyah, nyah, nyah, I can't hear you!”

You can lead right wingers to the truth, but you cannot make them embrace it.

Each state has its own standard for an official record of birth.

With respect to the true motivations of the birthers, fundamentally, it comes down to the following mindset: “I cannot accept THAT man in the White House because…. (fill in the blank).”

Just about ANY reason will do — any excuse that will legitimize their race-based outrage.  If it wasn't about a birth certificate, it would be about his middle name. (He's a closet Muslim, you know.)

In addition, there are a handful of unscrupulous politicians and pundits who, although not necessarily racist themselves, have no problem capitalizing on the bigotry of others by fueling their fear and hatred of Obama in order to score political points or further a personal agenda.

HAHAHA. A guy born in Panama before the grandfather clause naturalizing citizens born on US military bases should not have been investigating a matter that would disqualify himself from ever serving as President. lol

Oh the hate, the prejudice, it's blinding.

Uhh no, actually they do have a very valid legal case to contest it.

http://yannone.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-obama-i…

You may not agree with the arguments, but a photo copy from Hawaii isn't enough to “prove” he was born in Hawaii.

If I create a paper print out of my birth so called “hometown of birth” using about 30 minutes in photo shop or someone's database, am I a hawaii citizen too?

Give me break. There is no evidence to prove he was born in Hawaii or Indonesia.

The point is they won't release his birth records. And there is a LOT, and I do mean a lot of circumstantial evidence to suggest he's not a US citizen.

Including eye witnesses and newspaper articles overseas, which means, this is going to get quite ugly since this is about the “LAW” and still no one has shown where he was born.

I too had a child without the burden of a legal marriage…that to you makes me a “slut” and my child a “bastard” – but, we are still American citizens, with the right to vote….so what’s your point? Oh…yes – you want us all to see the vulgarity of your mind. Point taken.

Idiots

Idiot. If Barack Obama's name were Will Smith, it would take a lot of steam oout of this “conspiracy”. His name alone frightens these birther losers.

Let's see, if we accept this statement as the framers intent:

'In one translation, de Vattel writes that “the natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” '

Then Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Jackson, etc. were constitutionally unfit to be president since each was born a British subject.

Uh, he’s joking, Professor Hawking.

how can obama possibly govern with all these frivolous allegations? how can he do good for the country if he's dealing with this nonsense? he should resign so he can do more.

oh wait, he's not sarah palin. he's the president. he doesn't whine, he doesn't quit, he leads. 2 wars, economic collapse, healthcare in shambles, iran/honduras/n korea on the edge, and some of you think this crap matters?

can't wait for obama 2012. i predict 80% electoral.

I strangest part of this whole birther movement is:

None of them realize how a candidate is registered to become President of the USA. That is, each candidate must register with each state separately. It means that 50 states and 6 providences and territories ALL agreed that President Obama was/is eligible to become President.

Apparently all these people involved were part of that Kenyan plot made 48/49 years ago.

The COLB and the birth annoucements in the two papers provide plenty of evidence.

All the circusmsantial evidence you point to has been shot down.

There are no eyewitnesses to a birth overseas.

Einstein once said …

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Sounds like this quote fits birthers to a tee.

They're all racists, well, racists and nutbars! The neoCONS in this country have gone berserk!!

What a bunch of loonies! Including the GOP and the senators from ALABAMA especially!

Hey, the south needs to be their own country, using their confederate flag! Go, but don't come crying to us the next time you have an emergency. The south takes more in tax dollars than they pay in, BUT HAVE THE BIGGEST, MOST RACIST MOUTHS!

Take Utah, Alaska and Kansas with, don't let the door hit ya'!!!

I want to live in “the 38 (or so) United States of Americans, that manage to get along and respect each other”!

These same clowns that ruined our economy, never said a word to Bush about his lyin' $11 TRILLION DOLLAR WAR, and never said 'no' to Bush about anything, ever!

They never explain how they rigged the Honolulu newspaper 47 years ago to show his birth. This is quite a conspiracy…been going on for that long…and see…it worked! He's in the White House. These are incredible, maniacal demons out to destroy our society. They were the same folks who put the pool table, not billiards, in River City, IA.

True!!

Palin said she could beat Obama in an endurance race ( ironically just before quitting), but if we judge based on what she calls frivolous lawsuits wasting taxpayer money, faced with this absurdity she would have immediately dropped out, right?

Hear, hear Dr. Dan! Very nicely put.

Unfortunately, your intelligence will have no effect on this clown. Like waves hitting a rock.

Greg, I read your post and I agree that stupid people don’t know they are stupid.

geez, Hawaii never, ever gives out original certificates, neither does California where i was born.

WHAT PART DON'T YOU CLOWNS GET! YOU THINK YOU'RE ALL SO SMART, YOU SOUND LIKE THE IDIOT YOU CLEARLY ARE! THE STATE OF HAWAII, THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR OF HAWAII HAS SEEN THE ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

STATES DO NOT GIVE ANYONE THE ORIGINAL! GET IT NOW?? PROBABLY NOT! 9-11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, RIGHT?

Frivolous 'Birther' Lawsuits OK

Medical Malpractice- CAP IT !

Racism, pure and simple.

I want to see the mid-term elections in 2010 repeat the 1930's when the repuglicans minimalized themselves to a paltry 25% (24 out of 48) seats in the Senate.

It's not evidence at all, I don't understand how someone claiming a “copy” printout can be evidence.

If I get a copy of someone's check even if it was wrote with monopoly money using someone else's name and not a real checkbook, is that suddenly “evidence” I am the writer and depositor of that check?

And no witnesses? I don't think you have ever examined the evidence. There is a lot of witnesses who say, and have showed records, of him as well as his parents being in Indonesia and another country — including a lot which the military has…which is very concerning.

Start thinking about the fact that well, he might not be a US citizen and that does really matter for a lot of reasons. If it was Bush and so called “righties” were defending him it would be the same legal problem, there's someone in office who can't prove where they were born.

QUIT!

She Quit while her state is falling into Russia territory!

I meant 12 out of 48.

How is anyone unnaturally born?

I am a citizen of the USA because I applied for it, took the test required, spent the requisite number of years living here and my application was accepted as a result of which I took an official oath in a court.

So far as I know, anyone born inthe USA even to parents who not citizens of this nation can choose to be a citizen of this country upon reaching the age of majority.

Obama's father not being a citizen of the USA has no bearing on Obama's status as a citizen. Any notion that parentage might affect the possibility of loyalty to the USA should dismiss most of the residents of North America since more than 90% are of immigrantt stock and as such are all untrustworthy to behave in the best interests of this or any other nation.

So far as I am concerned, running for president proves that you are mentally defective. Getting that job costs so much money and involves so much abuse that only someone mentally defective would actively seek such a position. (I realize that it is the path to many riches currently but has a better than average probability that someone may dislike so much as to wish to undertake to harm you. Something about that kind of exposure make me queasy.)

How is anyone unnaturally born?

I am a citizen of the USA because I applied for it, took the test required, spent the requisite number of years living here and my application was accepted as a result of which I took an official oath in a court.

So far as I know, anyone born inthe USA even to parents who not citizens of this nation can choose to be a citizen of this country upon reaching the age of majority.

Obama's father not being a citizen of the USA has no bearing on Obama's status as a citizen. Any notion that parentage might affect the possibility of loyalty to the USA should dismiss most of the residents of North America since more than 90% are of immigrantt stock and as such are all untrustworthy to behave in the best interests of this or any other nation.

So far as I am concerned, running for president proves that you are mentally defective. Getting that job costs so much money and involves so much abuse that only someone mentally defective would actively seek such a position. (I realize that it is the path to many riches currently but has a better than average probability that someone may dislike so much as to wish to undertake to harm you. Something about that kind of exposure make me queasy.)

Why doesn' the GOP grow up I will never be tempted to vote for a Republican again. Sorry when
a Democrat is corrupt he at least shares his good fortune. A birth certificate is legal if it has the
raised stamp on it as does Pres. Obamaa does. I don't always agree with him but I am wise
enough to check my information.. .JAB

Why doesn' the GOP grow up I will never be tempted to vote for a Republican again. Sorry when
a Democrat is corrupt he at least shares his good fortune. A birth certificate is legal if it has the
raised stamp on it as does Pres. Obamaa does. I don't always agree with him but I am wise
enough to check my information.. .JAB

It doesn't matter where Obama was born. The birthers haven't read the laws. See:
http://www.montaglaw.com/blog/2009/07/19/obama-…

not only are bobby jindals parents indian he was born in india. his parents told all there friends they wanted him born in india. he has refused to release his birth certificate.

actually as governor he has tried to get a fake birth certificate issued. so far the state has refused.

Furthermore, this is from the Hawai’i State Department

“In order to process your application (to verify that you are a genuine native Hawaiian), DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.”

What Barry submitted was a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth. Not enough even by Hawaii’s standards.

Chad,

If we lived in the same town I would bet you a cold drink (adult beverage if you prefer) and a burger on that. Do you live in Virginia Beach?

I am a patriot and contractor not a lawyer or a scholar. I play by the rules.

I believe that the court has to give the plaintiff some benefit of the doubt. The plaintiff needs to show that there is probable cause. The proof can only be released by Obama or by court order. If Mario Apuzzo had the proof then he would not need to request it in discovery. I believe this whole thing is a mess. I would like to see a court hear and rule on it.

Ken

mycookie100 is correct. No one EVER gets their hands on their original birth certificate. You only get a “certifiable copy” of the original document. I always have one on me when I travel and live abroad, so I know thee routine.

This piece hits the nail right on the head – the more you try to explain to these morons just why their “Obama isn't qualified” arguments have no merit, the more they believe there's a conspiracy afoot and you're just a part of it.

Bottom line: Obama's an American, he won, and all you racist morons who think you're the only ones qualified to define what being an American is need to just get over it.

Takes REAL effort on your part to be this Effin stupid!!

I thought the right was against frivolous lawsuits?

I thought the right was against frivolous lawsuits?

Did they have any problem showing they were in fact US citizens despite the USA being under the colonies at the time?

No?

I rest my case.
Obama can not actually even prove he was born in the United States, this should certainly concern everyone. He's offered a “PAPER” printout copy of “something”

I have my original Birth Certificate in my hand and my states gave it out to me for free, all he has to do is go to the office, pull it out seal & all and put it before a camera and then put it away.

http://yannone.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-obama-i…

http://www.yannone.org/BlogDocs/KerchnerAdverto…

http://yannone.blogspot.com/2009/07/usurper-upd…
But instead what they did sealed up all the records……And that is of concern to many americans, that's the actions of communists when you hide public records like that.

Again if he was a fully proven US citizen, then Military officers would not be allowed to discharge from duty as well as ignore any orders to go overseas. Countless military officers have automatically ignored orders, because based on the law, they can not prove he is a US citizen which CONCERNS every citizen of the country.

And just what supposed “evidence” would convince you? The truth is none!!! Even if you fingered the raised texture on the seal of the original birth certificate, provided to you by the Governor of Hawaii, confirmed by the very doctor who delivered him it would mean nothing to your or any other of this sad crowd. What amazes me is how quickly folks invoke that word “LAW” when the truth of the matter is the criminals who took this country from the original inhabitants using GOD as their excuse, much like the Israelis used GOD as their excuse to commit genocide against peoples in the purported “promised land [thousands of years ago and today], created the “LAW” to justify their actions. Until we learn the very simple lesson of “Do unto others….AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO”, “LAW” will always be an excuse for the most shameful behavior. Believe me!!! This behavior, these actions shame you all.

then why does the governor of hawaii, who is republican, say it is valid hawaii birth certificate. why does the hawaii department of health say it is a valid hawaii birth certificate. why do they and other state officials say that so called long form is the document which has been released.

all his birth records have been released there are no other records.

actually you get to an interesting point here — you side needs to prove in was not born in hawaii. where is that proof

DUH! Hawaii wasn't a STATE in the 20s. Are you serious?

It WAS NOT verified.

This is from the Hawai’i State Department

“In order to process your application (to verify that you are a genuine native Hawaiian), DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.”

What Barry submitted was a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth. Not enough by Hawaii’s standards.

ok then a challenge for you. show where you were born without a copy.

labman57, you hit the nail smack dab dead center! The repuglicans are using the ignorance of the birther movement to create civil disobedience and unrest allowing the underlying racial bigotry to surface. It's nothing more than Kabuki Theatre being played on the political stage and the birthers are nothing more than the willing puppets completely unaware its nothing but a show.

[...] Read more here: McCain Campaign Investigated, Dismissed Obama Citizenship Rumors … [...]

Great post! May they proclaim their craziness proudly from the rooftops!

I suspect that the person or persons for the state of Hawaii who encoded the original birth certificate onto electronic media actually SAW the “original birth certificate”. Like they SAW the birth cetificates of every other native born Hawaiian that was tranfered to media when they went paperless. OOOOH…big conspiracy there. I’m sure that like most of us, we at one time or another had to acquire a certified copy of his birth certificate in order to get a drivers license or a passport or whatever. You can get as many of them as you wish, as long as you pay the fees and they would be dated whenever they were physically printed off. Use your heads, folks. But, that said – let the birthers ride! It just makes them and anyone who refuses to refute them look ridiculous! So – bonus for Obama. And thanks for your efforts!

you dont have your original birth certificate you have a copy of the original birth certificate. the state keeps the original.

but lets say you have the original for fun. there is a fire in your house it is burned up. now you need to show when you were born. you go to the states. oops they dont have it because they gave you the original and you destroyed it.

try again

More non sense from the Fright Wing Party of the GOP. Losers!

What's even funnier, is WND themselves actually debunked the nonsense before embracing it. How stupid are the people that believe that website?

The law makes it clear, that the two parents must be US citizens at the time of birth and not just be visiting.

http://yannone.blogspot.com/2009/07/usurper-upd…

http://www.yannone.org/BlogDocs/KerchnerAdverto…

The problem is that there is no clear line of reasoning that Hussein Sr. or his mother ever obtained US citizenship, because they have for a long time held citizenship in Indonesia which means they relinquish their US citizenship – as they can't be in two places at once.

You can't legally be a resident of Indonesia overseas and still be a US citizen, and you can't be “born” naturally while you are still an Indonesian citizen.

Right there, Judges try to make this law murky or undefined but there are countless articles which prove the Obama's were not US citizens in that they were still overseas.

And clearly reflected in the law, they are not natural born, if in fact this is all correct then Obama himself being born outside the USA was NEVER a natural citizen which is a concern to every person or should be.

He can not produce his certified sealed copy certificate, which should concern everyone. He produces a print out “copy” of something and that will never fit the legal definition.

The only time I have seen a birfer offer a cite for that number, it was a link to Orly Taitz’ blog where she says the exact same thing with no evidence. Amazing. Circular logic at its best/most idiotic.

what has been shown is the long form. i use to believe there was some other documtment because of the birthers that kept saying it. then i read what the state government of hawaii said in there office press release. what is posted is the long form.

if the state of hawaii says that is it why cant you except it

china in the 20s did not have a law which prohibited people born as citizens of other countries from becoming president

As a middle-aged white guy, let me tell you that if Barack Obama were a middle-aged white guy with a father from Great Britain, this would not be an issue.

“Show the long form birth certificate and end it all. A COLB is worthless.”

Really? I that is a silly claim. If they show the “long form” all you have to do is claim that the “long form” is forged also. It will NEVER end because YOU refuse to accept the results of the election.

God, spare us from idiots with opinions.

The deployment was revoked because the guy had requested the deployment, and, according to the terms of his reserve contract, he was eligible to change his mind up to the day before deployment. His choice, not the Army’s.

In other words, just like this birther nonsense, there was no controversy, no conflict, other than what this guy was trying to rile up.

And, the guy had been posting his intent to do this on Freeper sites for months before he volunteered to deploy, all so he could make a stink and get publicity.

That’s right, he intentionally volunteered just so he could refuse to go – and isn’t that a big screw you to all his fellow soldiers who have to do all the work involved in getting a soldier ready for deployment, and now they have to undo and redo all the work for someone else – all so Maj. Jackass could make a point with his real estate, dentist, lawyer.

As a veteran, and parent of a Marine, I think this guy is a low-life slime, who set this up to get publicity for himself at the expense of the Army, his command, and his troops, who now have to send someone else in this guy’s place.

There’s a special section in Hell for lying cowards, I’m sure they have room for him.

Really?

I'm holding a FIRST rate original of it right now smart guy.

Gold seal at the top. Clearly made from what else, very old paper like one of those “constitution” documents. It has the seal of approval NAILED across the top.

And you're telling me this is not my certificate….it's just a hoax??

You make no sense. At most the document is a second hand iteration, but after handling it countless times, it's the closest to ORIGINAL record you can come to.

Call Me…

When [Hawaii] Becomes Kenya or Indonesia…Please

The People that push this Nonsense are hateful, Hate Filled, Bitter & Yes Racist People…

Not wanting a Bi-Racial Man [Black-White Heritage] they Perceive Only as a…

[Black Man] and will Do Anything to get Rid Of Him and even Pray for his [Death]

A So Called Minister is doing just that !!!

That's the Obvious and Most Telling of all, through out this [Nonsense]

This Mad woman saying “I want My Country Back and I don't want this Flag to Change”

The Media Calls it Fringe Group, that's a Tame-Timid Title for it..

The Hate Groups, that Manufactured Tim McVeigh-Brian Nichols and the So Called [Malitia] when we have the National Guard..

These People are Extremely Dangerous.

Hate Mongering [Nuts]

Call Me…

When [Hawaii] Becomes Kenya or Indonesia…Please

The People that push this Nonsense are hateful, Hate Filled, Bitter & Yes Racist People…

Not wanting a Bi-Racial Man [Black-White Heritage] they Perceive Only as a…

[Black Man] and will Do Anything to get Rid Of Him and even Pray for his [Death]

A So Called Minister is doing just that !!!

That's the Obvious and Most Telling of all, through out this [Nonsense]

This Mad woman saying “I want My Country Back and I don't want this Flag to Change”

The Media Calls it Fringe Group, that's a Tame-Timid Title for it..

The Hate Groups, that Manufactured Tim McVeigh-Brian Nichols and the So Called [Malitia] when we have the National Guard..

These People are Extremely Dangerous.

Hate Mongering [Nuts]

As if we needed more proof about how bored and silly right-wingers are

To: Not settled I would say this.

I was present at my birth but I am unable to describe the room or those who attended, nor do I remember if the doctor slapped me. My mother assured me that I was there and the city supplied with a certfied copy stating that someone with the name I currently use was born to a person who used my mother's name, or the one she used while in my presence. A man whose name matches the name the person I was told was my father and which person used in my presence as his name was asserted to be the father of the baby whose name I am currently using.

Since I am nearly 60 years old I am unable to locate any living persons who attended the birth that I believe is the one I was involved with as a newly born child.

Even more interesting is the notion that America as I knew it inthe early 1960s when I came here held no sane adults who believed that any African American child had any chance of becoming president in the next 100 years. Most did not believe that any civl rights legislation would ever pass muster in Congress. The amount of hope and planning needed in 1961 to set up anyone to become president inthe next 50 years was insanely massive. Let alone to set up a dark skinned child newly born on the path to the presidency.

One of the things I kept hearing school was that anyone can grow up to be president. In the past 47 years since I came to the USA 10 people have managed it, well one already was persident when I arrived. The probability of anyone becoming president, a job that requires several hundred million dollars and years of effort, is nearly insurmountable. Starting a conspiracy of that sort in 1961 with a black child as its intended beneficiary would never have been begun.

Notsettledyet is just religious about this or is simply insane. Such hubris is downright stupid.

[...] for months, floats a new story today about Team McCain having investigated the rumors last year and found nothing to them. Possible lines of Birther attack: McCain’s vetters were too dumb to find the smoking gun; [...]

As if we needed more proof about how bored and silly right-wingers are

McCain should have looked at his own birth certificate!

You know this is a total joke what you're saying, I wouldn't have to because I received a stamped certified original document. At most it was a second hand creation directly by them.

But it's as real as the original with the seal.

And it is NOT most importantly, a paper printout off the computer

So if I made a paper printout (NOT the course, rough paper that a birth cert is) that said I was born in……China?

I would now be considered a chinese citizen and oh it was stamped with the same date. Let me just ask you again if that is what you are claiming.

Without taking sides here, is that what you are claiming? I'd be chinese?

Just a tad focused on race, aren’t you? Ecccch.

Even if Obama is not a natural born citizen and unqualified to be President, we liberals will fight to keep him in place. Wipe your a** on the constitution and your bibles conservatives! We don't care what you think!

Not only do birthers have a pathological need to delude themselves about birth certificates, but they prove themselves to be low-life, pathetic humans who are reduced to peddling photo’s whose authenticity is unknown. Funny that. You bray repeatedly about authentic birth certicate documentation, but have no problems posting pics that could easily be photoshopped. Congratulations on outing yourself as a scumbag.

Hey mr first rate, I have one just like that. Little footprints, yellowed parchment paper, raised gold seal, original signatures in ink. Know what I found out when I applied for a passport? It is not acceptable as an official state document and proof of birth or citizenship. I had to request a “Certification of Vital Record” from my state in order to obtain a passport. The Dept of Health issued this non-parchment piece of paper with a blue border, no footprints, and no original signature anywhere in sight. It is stamped by the registrar with a 2007 date, the year it was issued to me. Just like Obama's.

How about you just get off your conspiracy theory behind and call the Hawaii Dept of Health for yourself and ask about the differences between an original hospital record and the official certificate they issue. Place of birth is not one of those differences, they will be happy to put your deluded mind to rest.

It just goes to show you that “patriotism” is supported your country when you are in power and trying to overthrow it when you are not.

What….you loons wanted something and you didn’t get your way? The outrage!

Did you challenge anyone to a duel to preserve your honor?

[...] Weigel is on top of it: McCain’s team investigated the birther conspiracy theory during the course of the 2008 campaign, and came up with [...]

My question to you, notsettled, have you seen any of the other president's original birth certificate? Have you or any of your fellow nutcases even questioned whether they were “real” Americans? This is racism plain and simple. Racism and the fact that you right wing nutjobs can't stand the fact that you couldn't steal this last election like you did with Bush v. Gore.

[...] Phil Berg, a former Pennsylvania deputy state attorney general and serial litigant [...]

just type in (spirit of jefferson farms advocate at the top) i think the 3rd one down will be free to look at.. investigate all neames listed in the article

The reason that the Birth Certificate is a real concern and should be to most Americans, is he can't prove where he was born which means that “he” may be operating outside the law.

http://www.yannone.org/BlogDocs/KerchnerAdverto…

Again, this is all so very simple. Release the certified copy or photos of the documents.

Then for the most part everyone will drop it. But see, and the military has looked at this extensively, he can NOT.

Because they sealed up the records.

AND HE MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE A US CITIZEN…..WHICH HAS THE MILITARY CONCERNED AS IT SHOULD CONCERN EVERYONE ELSE…

Because that would mean he's in charge of the country, and possibly taking his orders from some other communist nation. And IF YOU WOULD LOOK AROUND YOU, that ought to concern you as well, there's nothing wrong with asking valid questions for our own sakes…..

http://yannone.blogspot.com/2009/07/removal-of-…

Why would you want this man to get away with a crime if he has ill intentions to enslave everyone including yourself to communism?

Don't you think that everyone deserves to see where he comes from and if he's qualified?

So when is “Polarik” gonna testify in court? Ya know, where he can be cross examined and such?

Seriously, why do you think anyone here cares?

And, honestly, if you all are so into forged documents, you surely must realize how easy it is to adjust photos?

Post some nude pics of you, I’ll show you how easy it is to do – I’ll make you look well-hung.

Hey people Hawaii is a United State. Being born on the islands is being born American with all the legal rights of a U.S citizen. Get over it! Palin put McCain under along with 8 years of GOP thoughtlessness in choosing her as his running mate. What happened in eight years cannot be fixed in 7 months, and going after Obama's birth certificate is taking time from solving the real problems of this nation. P.S. there is NO bridge to Maui.

If BOTH of Obama's maternal grandparents were USA citizens, how does this not make OBAMA a USA citizen. How does this not make his mother a citizen? Family members on his mother's side served our country in the military. Does that NOT MATTER?

This is a JOKE.

So Dick Cheney and George Bush NEVER LIED to us. Dont you see how pathetic you are. Instead of wasting your time with this crap go do something productive. Why can’t you just admit you don’t like Obama because he is black. I though our society was better than that. Did 650,000 soldiers die in the Civil War so that 150 years later we can still be a racist country. I am a proud tax-paying american and it makes me sick to think that we still judge people by the color of their skin. Just remember this, Jesus hepled those who were sick, poor and outcasted by society. GROW UP and do something to HELP those less fortunate than you.

Moron-

What part of “Office of the Governor” don’t you understand?

The portions of the Immigration and Nationalities Act cited by the attorney you interviewed were ruled unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253 (1967). Their opinion concluded “We hold that the Fourteenth Amendment was designed to, and does, protect every citizen of this Nation against a congressional forcible destruction of his citizenship, whatever his creed, color, or race. Our holding does no more than to give to this citizen that which is his own, a constitutional right to remain a citizen in a free country unless he voluntarily relinquishes that citizenship.”

Typical Right-Wing waclo's… They never let the truth get in the way of their paranoia

So because it looked similar it must be real?

That's the most ludicrous argument I've ever heard. If you try that in court they will laugh you right out of it.

If I made a copy record that had “no footprints” like it looked as if it was out of the Department of Health and so on, that's going to mean I live in China?

All I do is say that it means I live in China…therefore because it's the SAME document with China listed instead….I live in China???

You got to be joking. And the Gold seal does matter.

The truth is they could settle this all ages ago by just releasing the records and photos of them, then it's over with.

But they don't and sealed up the records, stamped and all because there is concern he's not a US citizen.

[...] with birth certificates, vetted the rumors thoroughly in his campaign and dismissed it as junk; pass this link around to those invested in this non-sense and water down the Psychedelic Kool Aid a [...]

What law is he supposed to obey? This is why this whole issue is nonsense. Should the president crumble under the pressure of whoever feels they should see his birth certificate. Go to court and produce a legal order requiring him to show proof…so far all that talk about him showing a long form of his birth certificate is pure nonsense… and we know exactly why all this is going on….let's not hide being this, so far baseless allegation, … this is really ridiculous and people are showing either their utter ignorance or prejudice by requiring Obama to do anything to make this go away.

Barack's father was from Kenya…never lived in Indonesia, ever. Are you thinking of Barack's stepfather, a man from indonesia, who his mother married after divorcing his father? So, your claim that his mother held indonesian citizenship when she was married to his father (from Kenya), before she married his indonesian stepfather, is completely telling of how moronic you are. And, ANY child born in the U.S. is a natural born citizen…whether your parents are immigrants, citizens, or what have you. Why do you think people like Bobby Jindal are called “anchor babies?”

the “birthers” are the same people who believe a scary monster is waiting for you in a firey pit if you commit a sin and a beautiful place is waiting for you if you repent.

There is a reason why the KKK wore white hoods. What is terrible is that there are actually elected officials standing behind a false claim to gain votes.

Would they put forth a bill to retract womans rights if enough “bloggers” started demanding it, my guess is yes they would.

The Republicans are quickly turning into a joke with no real beliefs or standards.

Your Mentally Ill.. Please for your sake go back on you meds…

Greg, Nice to get a real email from you. He is in office; took over one hell of a mess from my friend Bushy and is doing a pretty good job. Of course time tells all. We shall see.
I can tell you care but stay the course of facts. Anyway i am not political, too much good stuff to work on. However I wish you the best!!

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It's our duty politely to ask Senator McCain to use his considerable eloquence to scotch the nasty birther meme.

G. Gordon Liddy yesterday made the ludicrous assertion that “you couldn't even register for the Little League” with a COLB.

Actually, it STATES on the certificate that “This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.” That very certificate can be used to obtain a US Passport, get a business license, gun permit, etc. It would be accepted in an application for a FEDERAL SECURITY CLEARANCE. Not a picture of the original on file. Not some mysterious “long form.” THAT CERTIFICATE.

Man, these people are unhinged. “Obama Panic Disorder” is what I call it.

just type in (spirit of jefferson farms advocate at the top) i think the 3rd one down will be free to look at.. investigate all neames listed in the article

whaa haaa haaa whaa haa haaaaaaaa!

Reality 101: He's the President of the USA. He has a U.S. Social Sec. Number. He has a U.S. Passport and he had to have his Social Security Number, in order to get Credit and his Passport.

[You Dummy]

Just say, I Can't Stand that I have a Afro American as President Of The USA..

Because this Birth Certificate Argument is Borderline [Bull-Spit] OK

I Bet, Most of You Nuts, don't even Possess an Original Birth Cerificate, Social Security Number or U.S. Pass Port.

Again, Call Me…

When [Hawaii] Becomes Kenya or Indonesia…Please

—————————–

Like the people who challenged McCain’s citizenship in 2008 and 2000, or the people who challenged Dick Cheney’s right to run for vice president because he, like George W. Bush, resided in Texas, “birther” plaintiffs have failed again and again to get their cases heard because they lack standing.

—————————————

“We monitored the progress of these lawsuits against the Obama campaign,” said Trevor Potter, a Washington attorney who served as general counsel to the 2008 and 2000 McCain presidential campaigns. “The McCain campaign faced a series of lawsuits like this, too, alleging that he could not be president because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone. Both campaigns took the position that these plaintiffs lacked standing.”

Another EFFING moron. Are you not reading the posts here and all over the internet? There are millions of them that say the same thing. HIS MOTHER IS AMERICAN AND WAS BORN IN AMERICA. OBAMA WENT TO SCHOOL IN INDONESIA, HE NEVER RELINQUISHED AND NEITHER DID HIS MOTHER, THEIR AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP.
THE REPUBLICAN SENATOR OF HAWAII HAS CONFIRMED HIS BIRTH!
THE SUPREME COURT RULED HIM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN IN DECEMBER 2008!
THE STATE OF HAWAII CONFIRMED HIS BIRTH!
2 BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENTS WERE FOUND IN 2 DIFFERENT NEWSPAPERS FOR AUGUST 4TH, 1961. EFFING MORON!

STUPID, STUPID, IGNORAMUS'. NO MATTER HOW MUCH EVIDENCE YOU HAVE YOU'LL NEVER BELIEVE IT. STUPID, STUPID, UNEDUCATED MORONS!

it does not matter whether he was born here or not he is still a bum and a terrible choice for president

No, Sir (or Madam). The relevant law is not some obscure 18th-century book, it is the 14th Amendment and 8 U.S.C. § 1405. That section of the United States Code states, “A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth.” There is not any requirement for citizenship that one's parents be citizens at the time of birth.

Apuzzo …speculated what might happen if Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-La.), whose parents were Indian, became president.

Such nonsense! FDR was English, so he went to war against Germans, Italians and Japanese!

Remeber though, those are the same hypocrites who kept saying that Bush Jr inherited a deficit in 2000.

Get back on your med's and all your paranoid delusions will go away

RACISM BIGOTRY they can't stand that a slave is now PRESIDENT. 42 elected not one challenge

Really… seek help immediately. It could even be a brain tumor.

And if you want anyone to even entertain your ideas, ADDRESS THE REBUTTALS. Your political comments just identify you as someone who detests Obama, and then fits the 'facts' around that. His birthplace is settled to anyone NOT suffering from psychosis.

HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII. GET OVER IT.

I supported Obama, but it's obvious he is lying, people are asking him about his original from HI? I'm not going to support him in this lie. Turns out, that the notice in the newspaper is the result of having filed for that COLB with the DOH requiring only one witness, his mother. I'll go support someone like Ron Paul, that might actually do something good for this country. I say if he lied about it, yank him from office now!
This is not about wingnuts, except for the ones that want to change the constitution to suit a liar!

STUPID! HERE IS THE EVIDENCE
SUPREME COURT 2008 RULED AMERICAN
REPUBLICAN SENATOR IN HAWAII CONFIRMED BIRTH
STATE OF HAWAII CONFIRMED BIRTH
2 BIRTH NOTICES IN 2 DIFFERENCE NEWSPAPERS CONFIRMED AUG 4 1961
YOU DON'T CALL THIS EVIDENCE? MORONS!

as it has been noted previously, the birther and other conspiracy theorist will believe anything but the truth; but then, this is just another pea and the shell con game. racism is behind all these frivolous lawsuits, emails, rants and ravings. president obama is an african american, the first lady is an african american as is their children. these people, whether empowered or not, believe with all their being, as good ol' pat buchanan expressed on msnbc, “this country was built by white men;” anyone else, whether an african american president or a wise latina supreme court judge are inferior posers.

Don't blow a gasket. As Ron White said, “You can't fix stupid.”

Hey supermario, I don't believe you are a Liberal at all. You appear to be just another lying Conservative ( like Joe the Fake Plumber) pretending to be a Democrat in order to slander the Dems.

Oh, so members of the military who refuse to serve the duly-elected president because they are racist republican baptist rockheads are heroes to you? Another abortion that should have happened.

No this is not racism or being a nut, its about a $12 birth certificate. PERIOD

Thank you. The “anchor baby” phenomenon couldn't exist unless the CURRENT citizenship law was “Born On US Soil = Natural-Born Citizen.”

Obama's birth certificate wasn't specially sealed; nobody except officials of the State of Hawaii, and then only with clear need, is allowed to view the original of Hawaiian birth records. It is part of a general privacy law which applies to all Hawaiian birth records.

The Certificate of Live Birth Hawaii issued (signed and sealed, as it is) is legally admissible in all jurisdictions as evidence of one's birth and citizenship.

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The problem is that there is no clear line of reasoning that Hussein Sr. or his mother ever obtained US citizenship, because they have for a long time held citizenship in Indonesia which means they relinquish their US citizenship – as they can't be in two places at once.
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Show proof , some documentation that Hussein Jr. or his mother renounced their U.S. citizenship. If you want to make hay with this nonsense show us the documentation that they officially or even unofficially became Indonesian citizens.

Bahahaha… no way! I want this tied to the Republicans until 2012 at least… Please, more more more, birfers! Keep it going. I heard a rumor that Michelle Bachman agrees with you. Please go to her town hall meetings and ask her! Please?

Hey libocrat.

Can you prove that Hawaii is a state? Without referring me to some Liberal Media web site like Rand McNally (a Geroge Soros front).

Brilliant!! However, “birthers” do not have the comprehension skills to understand it all. They will just continue to listen to Limbaugh and Hannity and facts don't matter.

Perhaps then, you can explain why children born to illegal immigrants in the U.S. are natural born citizens. Prove me wrong or STFU!

Ironic, the first Afro American is a scammer! LOL!

Go read your own birth certificate. Bet there's only one witness signature on that, too.

Reality 101: He's the President of the USA. He has a U.S. Social Sec. Number. He has a U.S. Passport and he had to have his Social Security Number, in order to get Credit and his Passport.

Just say, I Can't Stand that I have a Afro American as President Of The USA..

Because this Birth Certificate Argument is Borderline [Bull-Spit] OK

I Bet, Most of these Nuts, Don't even Possess an Original Birth Certificate, Social Security Number or U.S. Pass Port.

Again, Call Me…

When [Hawaii] Becomes Kenya or Indonesia…Please

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Note: I Requested My SC Original Birth Certificate and the State sent me a Miniature Copy of My Birth-Certificate…

Not The Original !

That Crazy Lady should be on Fox News, Supporting her claim of having her Original Birth Certificate and they'll find out whether or [Not] she was telling the [Truth] in that regard.

The Only Large Birth Certificates would be given, would be to the Parents and most Parents Lose these over time…

I said Most

But that Crazed Woman should be put to the [Task] of [Proving] she Possessed her Original Birth Certificate.

For all any one of us know, that piece of paper in plastic was just a [Piece of Paper in Plastic]

A Big Show, for all we know ?

Maybe this is too complicated for you, but try to see my point. McCain
really wanted to be president, right? He had all the resources money could
buy to find out if Obama is not American, right? I know Obama is American,
because otherwise, McCain, who, remember, really wanted to be president,
would have exposed Obama, so McCain could be president without question.
Either that, or McCain could have proven that Obama is not American, but
really want to win. Do you see my point?

No, it doesn't matter. Unlike many other countries your ancestors, other than your parents, do not have any effect on American citizenship and nationality. What makes Obama a citizen is that he was born in this country. The Fourteenth Amendment is very clear “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.” There are other people who are citizens of the United States from birth by law. John McCain, for example, is one of those people (although his case is unusual because he was not a citizen when he was born. He was about one-year old when the law was changed to say he was a citizen from birth.)

Today if someone is born in a foreign country with a mother who is an American citizen and a father who is not, they are a citizen from birth by law it the mother has resided in the US for a total of ten years, two of which were after her fourteenth birthday. When Obama was born, the law was the same except it required five years residence after attaining the age of fourteen. Unfortunately, Ann Dunham was only eighteen when she gave birth to her son so she hadn't resided anywhere for five years after turning fourteen. There is, however, a special provision of the law, both then and now, for children “born out of wedlock”. Since the president's parents marriage was not legal under Hawaiian law, it is possible this provision would apply to him. So even if the crazies are right and he was born in Kenya, he may still be a “natural born citizen”.

Nice… So you are impugning the reputation of a man by the actions of his mother prior to that man’s birth. Nice work.

Also, I think those pictures (whoever it is, and I don’t care if they were Bush’s mother either) are quite tastefully done. Get yourself an education and an appreciate of fine art and stop looking looking at the female body as something dirty.

This IS NOT A RACISM ISSUE

Believe it or not, the military is concerned because Obama he may have loyalties to outright communist interests or Banking families instead of America.

Here's how one of your OWN PEOPLE describes it, again we should behave as Americans concerned about the nation.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/23/757034/…

Let's forget all the petty meaningless he said she said bullshit.

The left/right paradigm is meaningless. The law is clear. Either Obama is a US citizen with loyalties to that, or he's not.

The DMV records printout without any gold seal, with nothing official attached is definitely not it as it doesn't prove where he was born.

We DON'T know where he was born. I'm not saying he was born in Hawaii, Indonesia or Afghanistan. What I am saying is we do not know where…

They could have settled it ages ago by releasing records and showing photos. That's it. That's all it took. They didn't and now it's a fiasco.

He could be a NON US citizen this is what countless constitutionalists are saying & RP supporters who don't buy into the two party mafia war.

if he's a NON US Citizen he could be taking orders from “other” outside forces, not America, which should be of top concern to everybody. Period.

We need to know why obama has 16 social security numbers & need to know he's USA.

The fact is that you can't even get a copy of the original so-called “long form” birth certificate. This is the Hawaiian birth certificate, and the sign and seal make it official. But no amount of arguing will make these loons understand.

[...] See the original post:  McCain Campaign Investigated, Dismissed Obama Citizenship Rumors … [...]

Actually 43!

The level of ignorance, racism, and flat-out stupidity in the comments here is remarkable.

Hey, all you birther loonies: Try watching this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/23/gordon…

Damn facts and their liberal bias.

Sheesh.

The level of ignorance, racism, and flat-out stupidity in the comments here is remarkable.

Hey, all you birther loonies: Try watching this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/23/gordon…

Damn facts and their liberal bias.

Sheesh.

Drives me nuts that people do not understand what a Birth Certificate (or a Death Certificate for that matter) is.

The original documents regarding a Live Birth or a Death are always kept on record at the County Registrar's office. The records themselves NEVER leave the registrar's office, some are on computer only.

What people order and see is a “CERTIFICATION of a LIVE BIRTH” or a “BIRTH CERTIFICATE” which merely states that a “Birth has occurred and is on record with the County Registrars Office.” The County is merely CERTIFYING that a Live Birth is on Record!!!!!

These Birthers need to get a life, oh, they don't have one… sorry. Forgot. Trust me, nobody who actually works at a County Registrar's office believes this crap because they know better.

I'm only saying aloud what most are thinking. Stand up and fight rather than putting your tail between your legs. I don't mince words with right wingers like you likely do. Being more concerned at keeping the peace than being bold and direct is a sign of weakness. If you're a liberal, you're a weak one. And you slander me? Pathetic.

Even if his mother had renounced her citizenship, which she did not and there is no proof that she did, President Obama was born in the U.S. long before his mother was in Indonesia or married her second husband, still making him a U.S. citizen.

Theres a bigger problem with the birther statement: Obama senior never was a citizen of Indonesia, this guy is confusing Obama's stepfather with his birth father. It's a perfect example of how misnformed these guys are.

No matter how many times you post that, no one’s going to look at it. To call you “juvenile” would be an insult to juveniles everywhere.

Go find some like-minded retards at TownHall who will laugh at “naughty-obama-mamma” whatever that is. Loser.

LOL!

A Slave..

The Slave Blood Theory.

Slavery has Long Ended…

Sorry, Bad History

White Enslaving Whites has been around far longer than White-African Slavery [Sorry]

I'm going to Dispel the Slave Blood Myth, right [Now]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_medieva…

Chaos and invasion made the taking of slaves habitual throughout Europe in the early Middle Ages. St. Patrick, himself captured and sold as a slave, protested an attack that enslaved newly baptized Christians in his Letter to the Soldiers of Coroticus .

In the Viking era starting c. 793, the Norse raiders often captured and enslaved peoples they encountered. In the Nordic countries the slaves were called Thralls (Old Norse: Þræll).

Germanic laws provided for the enslavement of criminals, as when the Visigothic Code prescribed enslavement both for those who could not pay the financial penalty for their crime , and for those who were to be delivered up as slaves to their victims, often with their property.

In Carolingian Europe approximately 20% of the entire population consisted of slaves.

Note: Some people gave themselves to powerful landowners in order to receive protection or food; one Anglo-Saxon will has a land-owner freeing those slaves who had “given her their heads for food.” Anglo-Saxons continued and expanded their slave system, sometimes in league with Norse traders.

Big Note: About 10% of England’s Population Entered in the Domesday Book in 1086 were [Slaves]

Chattel slavery of English Christians was discontinued after 1066, when William of Normandy conquered England.

The slave trade in England was abolished in 1102.

The restoration of order as the early Middle Ages passed was accompanied by the transmutation of this state into serfdom, and after the earlier portions, slaves were seldom of the same country as their owner in Western Europe.

Obama has released his Certificate of Live Birth, a legal document which proves he was born in Hawaii. Hawiian law does not allow access to original birth records or the release of photographs of original records. What we have is the official proof (and ONLY official proof) of his birth in Hawaii, complete with an embossed seal (see the photos at factcheck.org) and a signature. It is admissible in all jurisdictions as proof of birth in Hawaii. He is therefore a citizen of the United States and of the state in which he resides. Period.

You Democrats are so stoopid!

Who was Presidenet in 1961 when Barry Obama was born? Do you Left wingers even no your basic history? Well let me tell you.

It was JFK , a DEMOCRAT! It is as well known fact that JFK used his Special Opps forces to place phony birth announcments in Hawaiian newspapers. Witness at the time reported black unmarked helicopters landing nearby.

And now after all these years the plan is complete and the libs can force their Evil agenda of peace, prosperity and health care.

Amen.

Jon: why is the republican party spending $1 trillion dollars trying to make this into a big thing? That’s right, $1 trillion dollars!

Two can play the bogus numbers game, boyo.

McCain was born in PAnama, so he is not US citizen either, according to the birthers

Hey racist dumbshit, Thomas Jefferson, who WROTE THE CONSTITUTION, SERVED AS PRESIDENT WITH A NON-CITIZEN PARENT. Get it? THAT MEANS YOU ARE WRONG AND/OR A LIAR.

They are all prejudice nut-cake, who feels hurt by the fact that America has moved on from its overt racist attitudes of the past, the southern stategy is dead, find a real job!

If you don't know where Obama was born at this point, than I'm afraid you will never know. Your partisan rigor surpasses your desire to know, so there is little chance anyone can take you seriously.

So, let's say you succeed in your campaign to strike down his right to be president. What do you think will happen then? Do you really think the people who voted for him give a rat's ass about what you believe? No they don't and making this into something like that is a recipe for the end of the republic, which frankly sounds what you really want. I'm from Illinois and believe you me Barack Obama is a patriot for the United States of America, the one that I live in. Apparently you live somewhere else entirely, probably without those pesky black folk or jews or those people from mexico. Sad, really. This is a great country, too bad you don't understand that.

Hey Florida Christian,

Well if you go to Wikipedia or even go to their state government website, you will cleary understand that Hawaii is a state. It was admitted to the Union on August 21, 1959, according to the Hawaii Admissions Act, which was passed by both the senate and house and was signed by President Eisenhower.

Yup,and we know how very competent the McKennedy, er, McCain campaign was.

You could be an Al Qaeda operative trying to spread disinformation with the intent to destroy this country. Perhaps we need to see your original live birth certificate before we can believe anything you say.

See how this works?

David,

Have you talked to anyone in the HRC campaign about this ?

I'm betting we'd find they looked into the issue as well, and similarly rejected it

If that's the only proof of his being born there, then we're in trouble, because that's a copy without any seal that anyone could do.

…..And that's no proof of anything in the end so we don't know who he is which isn't good

he got it wrong on comprehensive immigration reform, too

Wikipedia is a communist front. The so called “state government website” is as fake as the moon landing. You will have to give me more credible sources than that if you want me to believe this LEFT WING PROPAGADANA about this so called “Hawaiian statehood”
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Dear Fla. Christian (?) You are all “wet” and completely misinformed. Your Christianity has spread to your brain. Paranoia does run deep in religious fanatics–and THAT IS an historical fact.

The most meritorious argument — that dual citizens are not natural born citizens was bury after all the kook theories and poorly explained. Who are these Constitutional scholars that think it is dubious? Wydra makes no sense. Is she arguing that the 14th amendment do away with the qualifications? If so, let Arnold know! This issue is a blank slate as far as the Courts are concerned, because there has never been a POTUS qualification challenge.

You could have stopped after the first three words.

Believe me, your post proves this IS “about wingnuts”.I

Now he was born on a ship? I thought you birther nuts had proof positive that his step-grandmother swears she saw him born in Kenya. Which is it?

What’s the matter, can’t keep your lies straight? Or did you need another lie when the first fell apart?

Or, are you birthers going to split into warring factions now? Will there be the Kenyan Birthers battling it out with the Born At Sea Birthers? What about the He’s Really an Indonesian Muslim and Therefore Not A Real Citizen Birthers?

Oh, goody, this is WAY better than reality TV.

WTF!!! Now he has 16 social security numbers!!!! Actually, if anyone has 16 social security numbers I would think that they really, really, really, love America. That would mean they are paying taxes 16 times!!!! Wow.

Why should he have to prove anything? Where is the REAL proof that his mother traveled outside the US to give birth to him? Where are the details of his birth from a doctor/mid-wife/hospital in a foreign country?

Do you people really think that between the Secret Service, FBI and CIA — that NO ONE vetted him and his eligibility for POTUS? ???? I know the government is screwed up but COME ON!!!

For him to address the issue will only give raise to these nutcases.

The birther movement is just the start of the Republicans putting into play the strategy that they followed during the Clinton administration. They were able to make enough noise about Whitewater that an investigation was started. By the time it was finished years later, they had gone through Whitewater, travelgate, and numerous other issues, until they finally caught hold with Monica-gate, which hadn't even happened when the investigation started. They were able to disgrace (admittedly with Clinton's own help) a successful Democratic president which allowed them enough of a foothold to keep the race close enough to cheat their way into power in 2000. All the Repubs want to do is open an investigation, which they can use to harrass and persecute Obama throughout his presidency. It worked once, and they are hoping it will work again. Unfortunately for them, the last time around they had a Republican congress to authorize the investigation. This time they have a Democratic congrees who is unlikely to do that.

My Gawd–You folks are getting goonier and goonier!!! Your plots continually thicken, as you become more diluded. The best possible solution is to just ignore you and let you rant and rant until you finally run out of audience.

Wow, the misspellings and drunken rantings in this post are just about perfect. If this is an example of who we'll face in the next election then we should just stay home.

You know what I find so odd about this, is no one is really talking about the reverse. Meaning, if Obama is not a citizen of the U.S…then…is he a man without a country? Because no other country has exactly come forward to claim the man.

Florida is obviously being sarcastic, criticizing these outlandish claims.

Thomas Jefferson did not write the Constitution. He wrote the Declaration of Independence.

8 Year Republican President George W.Bush

1. Over 25 year Family-Friends Relationship with the Bin Laden Family.

2. Had the FBI Escort Bin Laden Family & Saudi Royals Flown Home, during a No Fly Zone Period, when he could have Used the Bin Laden Family Members as Bait, Bargaining or Hostages, until Bin Ladens Surrender or Capture.

3. The Bush Business Ties [Prescott Bush] and the Republican-Corporate American Ties to Communist-Socialist China and how in 30 Years, the USA helped China become the World Dominant Economic Power.

Republicans: Prescott, George H.W. Bush, Nixon, Reagan & George W. Bush Jr….

By the Time Poor Clinton became President, the Red Communist-Socialist Chinese were Well Entrenched.

4. We Owe China 6 years and Counting, 20 Billion Per Month with Interest, to Finance our 2 Mid-East Wars and they Own Large Government Bonds.

Thank You [Republican Party & Corporate America]

Job Poorly Done

Talk about Con Men

Are you serious?

You are a uninformed tool of the GOP and corporate elite which have dominated the policies of this nation for decades, creating artificial scarcity of goods, services, and healthcare for profit alone, and manufacturing wars and coup de tats to control the resources of 3rd world countries, and you think it's the libs with a evil plan? Go figure.

Your hero Ronald Reagan the “little horn of satan in the flesh” is the sell out on the grandest scale!

Columbia has a concordat with the Pope. A concordat is a treaty with the Pope. Hitler had a concordat. Mussolini had a concordat. Franco had a concordat. They want to set up a concordat here, which was the reason for Reagan formally recognizing the sovereign state of Vatican City in 1984. The greatest traitor we ever had was Ronald Reagan.

The New World Order has been actively in play for decades, so if it took the election of Obama to wake you up to reality, I would imagine that you still have no idea whats actually going on, and your uninformed ranting only obfuscates the truth, Obama is breaking down those institutional power structures and aliances that apparently you are fighting to preserve.

The GOP has always be part of the NWO take-over, why else would the so-called free-market, free trade model have such a negative affect on the median incomes of American citizens over the last 25 years if it's purpose was to create a better quality of life for Americans, and please don't say they are trying to help growth in emarging markets, when they oppose healthcare for 47M American citizens.

study to show thyself approved, for we die for a lack of knowlegde, spare the passion, build your knowledge!

Just show the darn long form that has been locked in the vault in Hawaii. BHO could make fools of those who refuse to believe he meets the requirements of the U.S. Constitution to be President of the United States by just showing the darn long form. End of story. Goodnight, Gracie.

Listen you racist imbeciles! How in the world do you think President Obama passed the highest and most stringent national scurity test in the nation? with a wink and a smile? In order to actually hold the office of the President of the United States of America, one must undergo and pass a very lengthy and stringent national security and personal identity test, this includes the submission of original documents, information on every family member, including nationality, place of birth, etc., finger prints, etc. Everythying submitted is verified and authenticated to death. The President of the United States holds the highest national security clearance of the nation, and one does not obtain that with a smile and a wink! THIS CERTAINLY INCLUDES PROOF OF HIS BIRTH, BIRTH PLACE AND PARENTAGE! WHICH IS AUTHENTICATED IN THE STRICTEST OF FORMS!
U.S. Senators are also required to pass a stringent national security check in order for them to receive the necessary national security clearance for them to do their job. When President Obama became U.S. Senator, he also had to undergo a national security check to be granted the appropriate national security clearance to perform his job as a U.S. Senator.
He has had a U.S. passport since he was a child. In order to obtain a U.S. passport, one must submit the original birth certificate to the State Department, where it is verified and authenticated.
Those of you who chose to deny any and all evidence and proof are just doing this because you don't like the fact that our President is not white. Get over it and start behaving like Americans! Denying the legitimately elected and sworn in President of the United States is as un-American as can be.

According to the natural borners, the only people in America who can be President are Native Americans. Everybody else who is here now was born to a “furriner” at some point in their chain.

This is a bunch of hooey from a few people who really hate the idea that a brilliant black man is in the White House. A whole lot more Americans are really glad that he's there in these times of trouble. That's why we put him there and that's why we have his back.

To the birthers:
Go home. Drink your moonshine. Tell yourselves that you're better than blacks because that's the only way that you can feel like you have any power in the world. Thank goodness that your numbers dwindle, but it would be a blessing to the country if you could all just get over yourselves. Slavery is over as is Jim Crow and America just isn't going to tolerate your ****.

There is no way in hell that this imagephreak ” supported Obama”, and somehow now is changing his mind….Wow, what a bunch of bull.

You Dumbocrats dont even know your basic history!

Panama WAS A STATE in 1939. It was admitted into the union on April 1st 1936.

FDR (a dumbocrat!) was a racist and refused to issue them a star in the flag.

The fact that you cant find any 49 star flags is proof!

“Birthers” should have to prove they were citizens, beyond a shadow of a doubt, refuting all allegations to the contrary no matter how foolish the objections raised are, just in order to sue on this issue.

More ignorance from a birther.

The document Obama presented does have a seal.

That document is proof, so says the Republican Governor of Hawaii and the director of the Department of Health.

It is guaranteed that whomever the Republican nominee is in 2012 will openly make public his/her certified birth certificate to eliminate any and all doubt of his/her citizenship — and will then point to President Obama and say this is something he has not and will not do. They will campaign on this. Mark my words.

Its really a simple. Show us the Long Form and we’ll shut up. When you call people racist because they want proof you look like an idiot. Just like Bush supporters you result to name calling and attacking the messenger instead of examining the message.

It doesn’t matter if he was born on a ship, in Kenya, or on Krypton. If he wasn’t born in the US he cannot be president. Just have Hawaii show us the long form and this thing is over.

“It’s crazy,” said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. “I don’t think anything is ever going to satisfy them.”

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are “more like threats,” explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. “If you were born in Bali, for example,” Okubo explained, “you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.”

http://washingtonindependent.com/51489/birther-movement-picks-up-steam

Yes I Know my family being in the doomsday book so we were slaves. My famly has been in America since 1648. A family member was witness to a will and was listed as lewman ( a free man )

Oh no….Jon has a master’s degree and he makes wads and wads of money each year. Way more than anyone else here. So what he says is gospel, people.

Yeah, and Diogenes is gonna get laid tonight (not by his hand puppet, either).

What about the trillion dollars being spent by the repubs, Jon? Huh? Cmon.

Hate to break it to you Why Even Bother, but Jefferson didn't write the constitution. He was in France as the American ambassador. Pick up a book.

I think the evidence in the newspapers is good enough. But why spend millions of dollars when you can just release your (medical records, school records, birth certificate, etc) records for free?

Look, what is never emphasized in any of these so-called “birther” dismissals is the fact that Obama himself gives the evidence against his own eligibility on his own websites. He admits that he WAS a citizen at birth of Great Britain. Thus, he held dual citizenships at time of birth and THAT is what makes him ineligible, according to the Constitution, for POTUS. There has never been any President in the U.S. history who had dual citizenship or was not a child of two parents who were both citizens EXCEPT for Chester Arthur who knew he was ineligible and so had to forge fraudulent records of his birth which was later discovered in the aftermath of his term. So, even though people today are ignorant of what is demanded by the Founders in the Constitution, we see that our history shows that it has been well understood by those who did not lack good education in our country's real history. AND …. we are witnessing the results of just such a one today whom our founders had the forethought to plan against (due to their own experience of fighting against those with loyalties to other than the U.S.). And we are seeing one more loyal to other than his own country as he attempts to dismantle its very foundations and discredits before the eyes of the world.

Who fucking cares? These nutjobs are unhinged and nobody really gives a rat's ass what they think (or should i say imagine?) anyway. Reality is hard pill for them day in and day out. I hope the Republicans keep siding with the crazies on this story and any other nutjob rant and against any meaningful health care reform because it will mean a generation or two of them left in the political wilderness. Yeah, they bitch and moan and threaten seccession, but these people are cowards. They'll bitch and moan and then die penniless and powerless and spend their whole life blaming the other. A domestic terrorist or two will rise from their ideological ranks but that's all we will have to worry about. The rest our sheeple who will bitch and moan and get frustrated but are powerless to do anything about it. What a sad bunch of crazies!

If Obama had been born in Arkansas, the wacky kooks could have tied that into their Grand Unified Field Conspiracy that the Clenis had Ron Brown and Vince Foster murdered to pave the way for Obama's socialized healthcare. Make sense? Than you're not a birther.

No, idiot! the 14th Amendment clarified that the nationality of the parents was not the sole determining factor in the natinoality and citizenship of the child. If the child was born on U.S. soil, the child is a natural born U.S. citizen, even if the parents are not–as were the slaves–their children born on U.S. soil were automatically natural born U.S. citizens.
The parents could be legal residents of this country and give birth to a child on U.S. soil–that child is automatically a natual born U.S. citizen.

Like we should listen to the stupid Democrats on this issue.

These are the same people that are trying to stop the wars and force us all to have health care.!!!!

Sara Palin/Joe the Plumber 2012

Listen you racist imbeciles! How in the world do you think President Obama passed the highest and most stringent national scurity test in the nation? with a wink and a smile?

Another misinformed comment. There is no such “test”. All that was required was that a national party – the Democratic one – to nominate him officially. No one accepted any responsibility for validating his eligibility. NO ONE!

The proper response to any and all birther claims is simply:

LOL.

Well, the State Department accepts it, since he traveled with a US Passport for YEARS! Where were you born? If a Certified Copy of your birth certificate is all we would have as proof of you being born where you were, then well, I guess you're in trouble too. We would need more proof.

Would 2 birth announcements in 2 different newspapers at the time work for you? Not enough proof, I suppose.

Amazing to me…this daftness and the fact that it's also coming from the mainstream now.

Do you trust Weigel's reporting? If so, see Dave Weigel lie through his teeth on the Rachel Maddow show.

Since HuffPostians are going to fill the comments with content-free jokes and lies, it would be great if others could from time to time correct their lies using my topic page about this issue.

No you Florida idiot! Panama WAS NEVER A STATE AND NEVER ADMITTED INTO THE UNION! The Panama Canal was a territory of the United States for military purposes only. It was later returned to Panama under the original agreement. Get your history straight before you spew more lies about our country!

#1: It's against the law of the state of Hawaii to show the original. That may be because it contains private information that is protected by law, but it wouldn't make any difference. These people won't believe the Republican Governor of Hawaii that she has seen it and that it is authentic, nor will they believe the head of their health services who said the same after checking it out. If they released all of the personal information that is on his original birth certificate, it wouldn't do any good. These people are not interested in facts. If they had the name of the hospital and the name of the doctor and all of the other personal information found there, they would simply institute a vast investigation of all those details. Obama's step grandmother, who never saw him before he was in his twenties, misspoke through an interpreter and immediately corrected herself about where Obama was born. The birthers just took out the immediate correction and ran with the mistake. They would try to do the same with every person who's alive or has a relative or friend who's alive who worked at or near the hospital when Obama was born. That would draw some crazies who are looking for some fame and it would go on and on.

If the Obama administration chose to do anything, it could send some experts to look at it, but I doubt that it would do any good.

#2 No white President has ever been treated like this. It's very shabby.

Following the tortured logic of the birthers, Geo. Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison were not legitimate Presidents because the did not meet the birthers definition of “natural born citizen.” Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison were British citizens because they were in a British colony to parents who were British citizens. Thus, the 14th Amendment. Otherwise, at the founding of the USA, no one had the strict “natural born citizen” qualifications.

As if that would stop them… They would find something else to grab on to. There is enough evidence to show that this is all BS. More evidence will not make a difference.

Stop lying. HI's governor has never said any such thing. If you have a direct quote from HI's governor to back up your claim, post it. Otherwise, stop lying.

Why do I even bother — you are truly the racist dumbshit. Completely ignorant of the facts and constitutioal law of the country you live in. The founders included a clause in the Constitution which exempted the current citizens from the “natural born” requirement. Take 5 minutes and research it before you embarass your self and insult the logically thinking people visiting the site.

This is not a racist issue — the same people would be bringing these cases if McCain were pres. This is about clarification of the law. The president has provided no evidence that he meets the constitutional requirements for president. McCain's lawyer is mistaken is saying there is no evidence to the contrary — Obamas mother gave a sworn affidavit that she witnessed his birth in Kenya! Also, birth announcements are not sufficient proof to even play little league softball or attend public school, hold a job, etc. Long form BC would be a good start for evidence, although only SCOTUS can resolve the ambiguity of “natural born” as it applies to those born to at least 1 foreign national. Do some research. And the Keyes case will probably be heard on the merits in California soon… so thats why there's been a sudden media blitz to try to fend off the growing outrage.

You're a constitutional scholar, not.

Take pride and ownership of your craziness, dude. This is republican intelligence, through and through.

Folks ought to begin compiling a list of all those known birthers and you will see what nutters they are, en masse or each one at a time. I would be wary of wanting my name associated with that gang of strange people.

Love how these reich wingers like to use their own as examples, in an effort to appear nuetral. He speculated what might happen if Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-La.), whose parents were Indian, became president. “India is a nuclear power. Here comes the president, who says we have to go in and attack Pakistan. Are we doing that because we are defending India’s interests? You just don’t know. You can’t have Constitutional rule if you allow this.”
I would bet the life of my mother that this idiot would vote for Jindal for Pres if he was running against ANY Democrat, even a southern one who wears a crucifix and has an American flag tattooed on his delts.

Obama HAS. He was born in Hawaii and he has offered exactly what the State of Hawaii presents as it's certified birth certificate. They have a state law that protects their citizens privacy. They do NOT release or copy the original birth certificate. All Hawaiians get their passports with the form the state offers. The Senators and Representatives from Hawaii prove their identity with the state of Hawaii's forms. This is the official birth certificate of the state of Hawaii and Obama presented it ages ago! If you don't like it, you could try to get the state of Hawaii to change it's laws, but until then, this is the way it is.

Birthers are losers.

Reptillian demons from the 4th dimension can materilize in our space time and go to Harvard Law School without ever have actually been “born”.

You DEMON crats voted into the highest office in the land a shape shifing interdemensional entity.

And you call US kooky!

<The president has provided no evidence that he meets the constitutional requirements for president. > Ummm, yes he has and so has the Supreme Court of the United States.

No! The military IS NOT CONCERNED, THEY LIKE THE REST OF U.S. CITIZENS AND THE WORLD ACCEPT PRESIDENT OBAMA AS OUR LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT. It is one or two wacko enlisted idiots who enlisted just to then officially deny their orders of deployment on grounds that our President is not really our legitimate President. It was all orchestrated by this stupid birther group.
If he passed the most stringent national security and personal identity check in the nation, in order to be granted the highest national security level in the nation, don't you think that during that lengthy process, somebody would have checked and authenticated his birth certificate, identity through finger printing, and every document they could find? Stop being such idiots, you make America look really stupid and ignorant!

If you read the Constitution further, it provides another basis for those alive at the founding, namely Geo. Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, to be President. Obama does not meet that basis nor the natural born citizenship basis. The Law of Nations describes 3 types of citizenship: natural born, native born and naturalized. Natural born requires both his parents to be citizens. One was not. So, even if born in Hawaii, at best, he is native born and does not meet the Constitutional requirement ans there are doubts that he is even native born.

As the saying goes: you can not wake up a person who is pretending to be asleep.

OK, so I'm not a US citizen, but as an outsider looking in, I am totally baffled that this is even a thought, let alone a debate. Why are people across the US wasting time, effort and no doubt money to debate this crazy argument? The world, that vast area outside of the US, is rolling its eyes. It is supposed to look up to the US? Tell me how when this is the hot topic.

Because it was obvious you dolt.

Good point! Sarah/Joe and the Boston Cop as State Dept Head in 2012!!!

Also, how do we really know that the man living in the White House ACTUALLY IS the child born to Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr.?

It is a well known fact that Vince Foster had the original Kenyan Birth Certificate in his brief case when Hillary killed him.

Hundreds of documented lies? Hmmm, interesting, if true.

Tell you what, pick the 10 worst, most offensive DOCUMENTED lies Obama has told; list them here, with proof (REAL proof! Freeper site links are not proof), and I will admit that he is a liar.

Remember, they have to be documented and proven, otherwise you’re an admitted liar.

I’m betting you’ll ignore this post.

Now there’s an original line.

Anyone that refuses to believe something after it is proved time and time again is a moron.

If you think the world was created in 7 days, less then 10k years ago, you are a moron.

If you think that the world is flat, you are a moron.

If you think that Elvis is alive, you are a moron.

If you think that everyone in Hawaii, everyone in Chicago, everyone in the government, everyone in McCain's campaign, everyone in Clinton's campaign, and everyone in the previous administration including George Bush is lying to protect Obama, YOU ARE A MORON.

It doesn't get more simple then this.

“The libs evil agenda of peace, prosperity and health care.”

That should have been a big enough clue that the author was using satire to make a point, but apparently not big enough for some.

Following the tortured logic of the birthers, Geo. Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison were not legitimate Presidents because the did not meet the birthers definition of “natural born citizen.” Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison were British citizens because they were in a British colony to parents who were British citizens. Thus, the 14th Amendment. Otherwise, at the founding of the USA, no one had the strict “natural born citizen” qualifications.

Reread the full statement for eligibility.

No person except a natural born Citizen, OR A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES, AT THE TIME OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS CONSTITUTION, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

No fair leaving out the REST of the statement beyond the requirement of the NBC portion. That qualifies your so-called “ineligibles”. Leaving out the whole statement always seems to be the way to obfuscate the truth to the poor ignorant. Next time, all the definition please.

Hear anything from Shirley yet?

[...] a key paragraph from today’s Washington Independent story headlined “McCain Campaign Investigated, Dismissed Obama Citizenship Rumors”: While [...]

Fox News analyst Ralph Peters for Secretary of Defense

” …… believers in these various theories and readings of the Constitution argue that they have never been proven wrong.”

That seems most likely because the people who believe such stuff are already resistant to reason and evidence. More reason, more evidence, more certification by trusted authorities can not dislodge firmly held beliefs anchored on the rock of irrationality

You are right. I am American, and I am sickened by how ridiculously stupid, and proud of it, most of us are. Its cool to fail highschool and become a laborer in most towns. How sad. These are the people that burned witches and think that some books are written by the devil.

Well, duh, if you were black and president, they’d hate you too.

Nice biased article, David. Barry's never provided a “Certificate” of Live Birth. And again, the pro-barry b.s. artists attempt to blur the line between “citizen” and “natural born”. The 14th amendment has nothing to do with “natural born”.
Barry's most damaging secret may not be about citizenship or natural born status at all. There are potentially worse revelations for him than not being born where he claims. We don't know anything about Obama's past beyond what he's told us in his “memoir”, and he clearly has been proactive in keeping his birth, medical, and school records under wraps. You don't do so without a reason. And the breach of his passport records by an underling of John Brennan (an Obama security adviser) should be suspicious to everyone.
He acts like a man hiding something.
Why don't you write an article on the birth/vital records issuance practices in Hawaii, now and in the 60's, what a “Certification” of Live Birth is, when the electronic form was first put into use, the number of root documents it could potentially represent, the birth record amendment policies and procedures and how an amendment might reflect on what is displayed on a current “Certification” of Live Birth.
If you're going to be content to simply ridicule people for pursuing the issue, shouldn't you be ridiculing Obama as well for taking it seriously enough to pay Perkins Coie and other firms to battle these lawsuits? If Barry thought it was all as big a joke as you do, I'd imagine he'd release the sought after records and make light of it. So, to be consistent you should be calling Barry a “birther” too. He obviously takes the matter as seriously as those “crazies” you mock.

If you think that everyone in Hawaii, everyone in Chicago, everyone in the government, everyone in McCain's campaign, everyone in Clinton's campaign, and everyone in the previous administration including George Bush is lying to protect Obama, YOU ARE A MORON.

Oh, burn. Good one. Everyone knows people who live in Kenya are bad, just ask at church on sunday.

If I want to get a job and they ask me for a Birth certificate, I can't tell em to go check my website and download a photoshop copy ! Same with little league for my kids — they want to see the original, or certfied copy of the ORIGINAL. Perhaps I could show them my old birth announcement ? Nah ..thay won't work either. Governor of HI says I have a BC …nope…not good enough. Show me the money as the saying goes…
For those of you who (scared or stupid I assume) who so readily dismiss the issue without researching, I quote Shakespeare: “This above all: to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man”

Research the facts and find out for yourself — its not untrue just because you hope or want it to be…

-CH

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND, AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ? http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/

“Obamas mother gave a sworn affidavit that she witnessed his birth in Kenya”

Bullcrap. The supposed affidavit was by Obama's Step-Grandmother not his mother and when she said she witnessed the birth in Kenya it was because there was a mistranslation… the family during the affidavit corrected the record several times, but, of course, that's not the part the birthers latch on to… because you are idiots.

The State Department issued Obama a passport identifying him as a United States Citizen. And that was well before he was President so don't cop out on that.

SCOTUS has better things to do than to listen to Alan Keyes, who they will likely rule lacks standing in his lawsuit as well.

Yep. I've read your topic page, and it's full of lies.

Once more —
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“It’s crazy,” said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. “I don’t think anything is ever going to satisfy them.”

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are “more like threats,” explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. “If you were born in Bali, for example,” Okubo explained, “you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.”

Why are people across the US wasting time, effort and no doubt money to debate this crazy argument?

Ask the “President”. He's the one, perhaps unbeknownst to most out there, who is spending, reportedly around at least a million dollar figure to high powered attorneys to keep hidden ALL of his records of his history – birth, educational, medical, writings, etc. – from the deserving public. He has sealed EVERYTHING. As far as a waste of money – he himself appears to be doing the wasting when he could get a long form informative birth certificate for, what, $20??? And this is the advertised “TRANSPARENCY” of all things Obama!! There appears to be boiling frogs everywhere out there these days.

Cool, you run a website so that you can make money off of stupid people who believe you. Did you figure out any way to capitalize off of autism or other mental diseases yet?

The State Department has pretty stringent rules for getting a passport… which Obama got long before he was President.

It sounds like you are the one that needs to research the facts.

Ahh, if only something could really make you whackos shut up. Now there’s a dream.

Here you go moran-

Aloha,

Thank you for emailing Governor Linda Lingle's office. A recent article in WorldNetDaily.com (October 26, 2008) claiming that Hawai‘i Governor Linda Lingle sealed Sen. Barack Obama's birth certificate is false.

Under Hawai‘i's state law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18), copies of vital records may only be released to those who have a tangible relationship to the person whose record is being sought. Neither the Governor's office, nor any other office in the State of Hawai'i, can provide information concerning birth certificates, or produce birth certificates, to anyone except those who are listed in the law governing vital statistics records.

Vital statistics records, such as birth certificates, are protected by strict confidentiality requirements. Specifically, pursuant to section 338-18, Hawai‘i Revised Statutes (HRS), the Department of Health, which maintains these records, may not allow the inspection of a birth certificate, or issue a certified copy of a birth certificate, or disclose any information contained in a birth certificate, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record:

(a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.

(b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:

(1) The registrant;

(2) The spouse of the registrant;

(3) A parent of the registrant;

(4) A descendant of the registrant;

(5) A person having a common ancestor with the registrant;

(6) A legal guardian of the registrant;

(7) A person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant;

(8) A personal representative of the registrant's estate;

(9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;

(10) Adoptive parents who have filed a petition for adoption and who need to determine the death of one or more of the prospective adopted child's natural or legal parents;

(11) A person who needs to determine the marital status of a former spouse in order to determine the payment of alimony;

(12) A person who needs to determine the death of a nonrelated co-owner of property purchased under a joint tenancy agreement; and

(13) A person who needs a death certificate for the determination of payments under a credit insurance policy.

You can find the complete statute at http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_…

Mahalo,

Office of Governor Lingle

You may do well to pose your question to our President — the COMMANDER IN CHEIF of the most powerful military on the planet! Why do you fight this, spending upwards of $1 million when you could put it all to rest in 5 minutes by releasing your info. He is arrogantly defying the Americans he serves by refusing to show us his birth history, college records, etc. Are we Americans not important enough that we should get to see this info? The man is hiding information, regardless of politics, it is unbecoming of ours leaders to insult those he serves by not offering any and all info we want regarding his background!

Prove it.

I'm amazed this storyline is still newsworthy. The World is disgusted by this trap, and BS. Doesn't anyone have anything credible in their own crummy lives. The World cries 'foul' to Americans who pursued this racist road. How disgusting and appalling, the ignorant have a loud voice.

All your comment says to me is, “I want to believe that Obama was not born here because I don't like him. I am willing to look and act like a complete imbecile if that is what it takes. Maybe if I type in all caps people will believe the lies that I have already accepted as my new religion. I am dumb window licker.”

Prove it.

Well said!

If you think that everyone in Hawaii, everyone in Chicago, everyone in the government, everyone in McCain's campaign, everyone in Clinton's campaign, and everyone in the previous administration including George Bush is lying to protect Obama, YOU ARE A MORON.

Our President, Mr. Obama, HAS proven it.

I have yet to see even one of your ilk offer the remotest “proof” that President Obama was not born in the United States.

Here's your chance…..I suggest you take it or STFU.

Prove this easily to yourself instead of broadcasting your own interpretation of what you might think. It's easy to do, but wont' because the crazies are a meal ticket for the party of lazy old white men.

Why doesn’t the President dig one layer deeper and release the original or his birth certificate? Because it wouldn’t matter to the birthers. Legal documents, Republican governors, newspaper birth announcements (which come from the state Dept. of Health and not the parents btw) are all dismissed out of hand. Evidence is irrelevant. The real issue for birthers is that in their minds the President is “the other”, the outsider, someone who doesn’t belong to their identity group. It could be because he is half black, had a Muslim father, went to Harvard, lived in Indonesia, grew up in Hawaii or any of the other things about his life that some people can’t comprehend, much less relate to. This has nothing to do with facts or logic, so everyone can save their breath.

@Shirley…patient records is IHI information..protected by federal law…shirley….McCain said it was a lie….give it up..i am from Kenya..the man wasn’t born at my home…

He's keeping his writings secret? I'm pretty sure you can find “Dreams From My Father” on Amazon.com.

Crazy Crazy Crazy. He is black. That is the bottom line. We do not want a black man for president. No matter what he produced to confirm his birth, it will never be enough. The hate out there is thick. Folks wont admit it but it racial. America will be a minority held country within 25 years. We can not bear to think of that. So we will persecute this first man who is truely an African American. president. African father American mother. We will push hate at him til some one murders him. That is what this is all about. God help those Christians from whom I have heard the most vile hatred towards this man. God is watching you all. I swear if he is killed I know exactly who to blame. Fox, Rush and their air headed viewers who see their lily white world passing away from their old eyes. God have mercy on their souls.

Apply this comment to yourself, because you're the only one that seems to believe it! Did you read the article, seen the Campbell interview lately? These people aren't lying ..nobody indicates they know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Obama meets the “natural born” requirement. Why don't you research the FACTS and the LAW instead of posting opinionated, unsubstantiated tripe like this. And ask yourself something — where's your allegiance, to the Constitution, or to Obama. Hint: One would be a republic, and the other means you live in a dictatorship.

-CH

Apply this comment to yourself, because you're the only one that seems to believe it! Did you read the article, seen the Campbell interview lately? These people aren't lying ..nobody indicates they know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Obama meets the “natural born” requirement. Why don't you research the FACTS and the LAW instead of posting opinionated, unsubstantiated tripe like this. And ask yourself something — where's your allegiance, to the Constitution, or to Obama. Hint: One would be a republic, and the other means you live in a dictatorship.

-CH

Disagree with the facts. Clue to those without them – name calling and normally foul language – the new American culture promoted by Obots.

Should we tell them that anyone with Photoshop could scan in an image of the BC, pixelate it to make it look fake and repost it to fool stupid birthers?

Or would that just confuse them even more?

So your argument is also that Obama has never been employed?

Not quite sure what the military has to do with this but as I said in my earlier post, I am still baffled by your interest in this nonsense.

I followed this story since Sept 2008….up to Nov 2008 and wonder why Obama just keep quiet and redirect people to misinformation when a $5 birth certificate could be released from Hawaii to a group of expert to vertify. The reason is story is still around is being Obama's messiah aura is dimming and media is running out of things to praise the great one…

You repeatedly lie about the state of Hawaii's confirmation of the birth certificate:

http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.ht…

No, it's not full of lies. No one has been able to find a specific thing wrong with it.

And, I called Okubo after Weigel printed that quote above, and she refused to confirm the impression Weigel was trying to give.

Well, we are a system of laws ruled by our Constitution. The lines in question were written for a reason. People can google the Constitutional convention and read about the reasoning for this stipulation.

Obama can put the whole thing to rest by getting a small group of citizenship believers and non-believers and document experts together to go over the document. In the meanwhile, his refusal gives the appearance that he has something to hide.

Have you seen his previous passports? Didn't think so. No one else has either. You see, they've also been sealed by the “transparent one”! Were they U.S. or Indonesian or other? On what did he travel from Indonesia to Pakistan?

As other commenters have mentioned, I personally want the birthers to keep making this an issue for the next 8 years. Don't let go….keep pressuring your Republican Party leadership to walk the plank and start running teabagging birthers to represent you in Congress! The rest of us sane people will be happy to see the Republican Party morph into the discredited Clown Party. What George W. Bush started, I hope the birthers finish it.

You don't make much sense there. Not sure what you're trying to say. “Prove” what to myself? I already know that the “Certification” Obama has posted is being misrepresented as something it is not, and is not being fully explained in what it can represent.

And, I'm not a “lazy old white man”. lol. Sorry to upend your worldview.

Darn, the smart republicans found out about the conspiracy. They’ll be back in power now.

The birthers want to believe that Obama is not eligible to be President and twist the truth to their advantage because he's “different than us”, he's not eligible because he's “not American”. In other words they believe that he has a fatal flaw. These declarations are dog whistles for “he's black”. The racist, conspiracy whack-jobs are also upset that Barack Obama (a black man) won the election, and he did it by a huge margin.

I can't believe this man WHO WAS BORN IN KENYA!!! is president of the United States! This just drives me crazy! It makes me slap my face and jump up and down like those heterosexuals attending the cage match near the end of Bruno. G. Gordon Liddy, whose knowledge of current affairs knows no limits, helpfully pointed out that Obama's step grandmother SIGNED AN AFFIDAVIT stating he was born in Kenya. Case closed! He needs to be rousted out of office and Rush Limbaugh put in his place. Only then can we fix healthcare!

After the slaves where set free, many old white men needed their help with plantations and were upset over the freedom act. What did they do? They brought over Germans. The need persisted so after WWI and WWII many more Nazi prisoners captured by U.S. forces used them as your slaves on their plantations.

So what do you have now? You have 25% of Americans are German. Many at highest levels in state or country. This is just a fact. But you have to recognize the 'White Supremecy', love hitler and adore him still in fact growing………………….is stemming from this group of racist Americans. This group is part of who is running washington on the republican side, in fact ……recent talk of the 'Family' on “C” Street………..adores hitler and supports his ideals. Now is the time to see what 'Lazy old fat cat White Men” did to society”. They destroyed America, vote by vote. Look at Limbaugh, Bohner, Bachmann, …Liddy, Rove. Irish and British, not your country anymore. Sad, sad, sad thing for America becoming the New Germany.

Obama has repeatedly said he has in a box at home an original birth certificate (not the computer generated official certification).

That he won't show it, I think, reveals much about the man.

It is a strategy right out of “Rules for Radicals”, to inflame conspiracy theory and divide your opponents. He cares little or not at all for bringing people together, and sees political gain in division. He is the most partisan President in modern times.

I blame Obama for the “birthers”.

This story of his birth has been around since he was a presidential candidate. Many lawsuits with different angles filed by different people and states made it to the Supreme Court. Some where filed by AG but all were dismissed as “lack of standing”. This is a simple question that deserve a simple answer. No president / candidate before had an issue of coming clean. Go figure.

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Your so right and I'm sick to have to admit it!!!!!

Susan, I'm afraid you are an ignoramus. If you are comparing proof, the evidence overwhelmingly supports that he does not “MEET THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS”. (You say born in HI, but thats not the only issue.)

Re Born in HI: No original BC — experts have testified in court, however that the COLB online is a forgery.
Obamas Grandma testifies she witnessed his birth in Kenya — sworn affidavit — circumstantial, but very compelling.
Not only is the real EVIDENCE to prove this issue in Obama's hands, but he refuses to show it! What does that tell you?
Gov of HI says the have A bc on file, but refuse to tell us what it says or show it. It may say place of birth Timbuktu for all we know!

The issue is clearly in doubt, one way or the other. Those who believe blindly or ignore the constitional law of our nation, are the truly dangerous ones.

This case has NEVER been heard on the merits in a US court of law, but there is a good chance that will happen soon in CA — then, everyone can present their evidence and the Judge will likely subpoena the release of the original bc for scrutiny, then we can at least get that little elusive piece of info resolved.

-CH

“Obamas mother gave a sworn affidavit that she witnessed his birth in Kenya!”

Well if Obama's mother was there I bet she did witness her son's birth…but since his mother has never been to Kenya, my bet is that she did not witness it.,..because he was not born there. Moron…I will type slow….if Obama's mother had never been to Kenya..chances are HE WAS NOT BORN THERE!…sheesh.

And when did Bush reveal his birth certificate? What about Clinton…what date was that on? Carter? Can you advise? And can you advise where in your laws it says that all these presidents must email/post/telegram/carrier pigeon their birth certificates for all to see?

It really doesn't matter where he was born. He himself has admitted on his own website/s that he was a dual citizenship at the time of his birth – also a citizen of Great Britain. That in itself disqualifies him for eligibility according to the Consitution's requirements. You may look at all of the precedent cases that define that fact. Of course,who cares these days about the country itself, those who fought for it and its beloved Constitution under which all these leaders have sworn to uphold and defend – against DOMESTIC enemies as well as foreign ones. God bless all of the loyal citizens who have given up their lives for the sake of these truths and freedoms that so many today flush away so easily to their own detriment.

It isn't what the birthers want to believe or what the obamabot wants. Don't need to go to racial comments and try to destroy each other. Nobody knows the truth until it is revealed. The truth is in the original Birth Certificate that Obama doesn't want anyone to see.

Great reporting.

Well Johnny foreigner. If the military (rightly) has reason to beleive the commander in Chief of the armed forces has no legitimate authority under the US constitution, then it is their SWORN DUTY not to obey his orders. Furthermore, if he is found to be illegitimate for office, any treaties, laws, declarations of war, etc will be considered null. Additionally, our military men fighting will not enjoy the protections of the Geneva Convention in the event of capture, or armistice, etc. So, its kind of important that we're sure he has legal authority to act as POTUS.

-CH

Well Johnny foreigner. If the military (rightly) has reason to beleive the commander in Chief of the armed forces has no legitimate authority under the US constitution, then it is their SWORN DUTY not to obey his orders. Furthermore, if he is found to be illegitimate for office, any treaties, laws, declarations of war, etc will be considered null. Additionally, our military men fighting will not enjoy the protections of the Geneva Convention in the event of capture, or armistice, etc. So, its kind of important that we're sure he has legal authority to act as POTUS.

-CH

No you dip! it's because the forensic evidence “http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/07/obama-scrubs-the-web-of-all-birth-docs.html” clearly shows fraud which therefore makes him a forger. Can you figure out the implications from there? Or should I draw a picture? BAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! you say?

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL.” (emphasis added)

http://books.google.com/books?id=HRCHJp-V0QUC&p…

I don't know about you, but I've lost a LOT of papers and documents since I've been in high school, and I'm a FEMALE. Teenage males tend to be a bit more careless.

But it may have been in his Grandmother's care, because when he was a teenager, he lived with her. So it is possible it's floating around in a box that might have been packed away since her passing, OR she may have misplaced and lost it many years ago.

As President of the United States, he really does have more important things to do right now other than searching around for an old paper birth certificate THAT WOULDN'T SATISFY THE SCEPTICS ANYWAY!

Everyone who is actually interested for the right reasons and those who are not sore losers know President Obama's citizenship.
I'm waiting for you people to stop playing immature games behind the presidential election to be real men that the public can respect.

I wonder what percentaqe of the 'Birthers' are creationists? I suspect it's a very high percentage. I wonder what percentage of them believe that global warming is a hoax? I suspect there is a high overlap

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND, AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND, AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

AstonKim –

Obama — and NUMEROUS others — have done exactly that. In Hawai'i you pay your $5 and get a Certified Copy of a “Certification of Live Birth” in which the recorder of vital statistics (or whatever his/her title is in Hawai'i) certifies that there is a Birth Certificate on file documenting the birth of the person listed on the date and place listed. You cannot get a copy of the ACTUAL birth certificate. Several officials in Honolulu have stated (maybe under oath?) that they have examined President Obama's actual birth certificate, that it is authentic and that ther Certification of Live Birth is legitimate and accurate.

What more do people want??? It seems some people will not be convinced unless Pres. Obama can come up with a time machine so they can to go back in time and actually observe Baby Boy Obama emerging from his mother's vagina.

This madness needs to stop.

John Campbell bill to require the birth certificate for president candidates is a great idea. It would be this birth issue to rest in the future. AND, it would be a telltale sign if Obama DOESN”T seek reelection in 2012.

THe question is moot since they no longer occupy the Whitehouse, Its also a weak effort to divert the argument to a meaningless and irrelavant speculation, but I'll humor you speculate that they would have had nothing to hide, and release the original documents without question. If they likewise refused to do so, then I'd take the same position that its an outrage and demand the release of the info to the public, wouldn't you? Or do you just follow dictators and such, based on their pronouncements, rather than the rule of law?

You are 1000% Correct in your Assessment..

The Republican Credo-Mantra…

Fear, Hate, Dread, Doom & Gloom.

It’s Very Sad

Omaar

You are 1000% Correct in your Assessment..

The Republican Credo-Mantra…

Fear, Hate, Dread, Doom & Gloom.

It’s Very Sad

Omaar

When and where did he say this? I've heard birthers refer to it but never seen any proof. Sounds like a rumor to me.

Thank You

These Nut Cases are [Outrageous]

Omaar

Thank You

These Nut Cases are [Outrageous]

Omaar

Birthers, they just don't get it. They keep asking the same questions, that have been answered over and over again. Are they that stupid, or just really in some dense denial?

But given how stupid they are, facts aren't going to convince them of anything. They believe every unconfirmed, unsubstantiated rumor and lie (like the $800K figure that Obama supposedly spent on legal fees to keep his true identity a secret) without having one single shred of evidence to support their cause. Not one piece of evidence to support their silly fantasy. Put up or shut up, birthers. Really. Don't you realize how bat shit insane you appear to the rest of us?

Try, just for a second, to be rational about this little theory of yours.

It's kind of sad really, watching adults act like children who cannot accept reality.

But one thing is for sure, it's says so much more about them than it does about Obama any day of the week.

The birthers are like cult members now. No amount of sunshine is going to penetrate their dark, locked minds. They have come to their conclusions first, and now, however pathetic, they are trying to fit what they believe are facts around the conclusion.

But it's one giant, epic FAIL.

And the more they stay at it, the crazier they become. They get more emboldened as the evidence doesn't point in their favor.

More disinfo!!! The head of the department that issues the birth forms said “Absolutely not. No one in our office confirmed it.” But hey, nice try at repeating the Obama lapdog media's mantras and once again avoiding the forensic evidence posted at:
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
and
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

You’re an Adult ….

Please…

Go Away

No candidate other than John McCain and, from what I understand a couple more over 100 years ago, have had to even deal with these accusations.
Your issue that he is less forth coming is ludicrist. He's had to bend over backward to prove something that was certified by scores of Hawaiian officials, including the Governor of Hawaii (of the opposition party).

He was vetted by the Secret Service. He was granted classified to top clearance first as a Senator, then a President so he was vetted by the Dept. of Defense. Hawaii has certified him.

There is nothing that can be done at this point to convince you, not because he hasn't amply proven he's a citizen but because your hatred of him demands that you support any effort to depose him.

If that is your 'expert', then I can perform brain surgery on you for a good rate. I am an expert, because I said so online

You’re still Claiming to be an [Adult]

There’s Hope for Us  All..Huh

You’re still Claiming to be an [Adult]

There’s Hope for Us  All..Huh

So why do people doubt Obama but did not doubt Bush, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and so on? I guess it must be because he is black, right? Such nonsense this discussion. But I thank you all for the humour it has provided while I wait for my dinner to cook which is now ready to be eaten. Keep up the nonsense, people!

Thanks, I should have read further before commenting. I couldn't find my keys from the day before, much less an old box from high school 30 years ago. I figured it was just another unfounded rumor.

He wrote about it in his book, “Dreams of My Father,” referring to finding the “birth certificate and old vaccination forms” when he was in HIGH SCHOOL.

That was 30+ years ago.

See my comment below.

Unfortunately these folks are being linked to conservatives who really want nothing to do with the legitimacy issue, regardless it's outcome.

For those of you who think it's about race, pull your heads out of your —–s. I can't stand Obama and what he represents ideologically, but I couldn't care less about his race. If this is about race, why did the left make the same challenges about McCain?

For what it's worth it even if I had ironclad proof of his Kenyan birth, I'd drop it in the the shredder faster than you could say “don't just stand there… nationalize something.” Idiot Americans elected the guy, so we live with him. You could run Fidel Castro for President and he'd probably get 30% of the vote even though he's Cuban AND a communist. The idea of constitutional eligibility is lost on these people entirely. They like him and that's all that counts.

That old felon lied (again). Did he show the affidavit? Of course not. It doesn't exist. That story was debunked a long, long time ago. Grow up.

Even then they would claim that it wasn't actually him.

Your source is a blog that targets and is run by fringe right wingers. Right. Maybe you should quote the Hilarious Conservapedia too.

THE STATE OF HAWAII, EVEN THEIR REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR HAS VERIFIED THE AUTHENTICITY OF HIS LIVE BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Of course, Pam at atlasshrugs knows better.
You're pathetic.

If I tell you that Obama is a martian, would that be given the same credence reality?

I think you are lying through your tooth, if you’re a southerner.

I think you are lying through your tooth, if you’re a southerner.

“They believe every unconfirmed, unsubstantiated rumor and lie (like the $800K figure that Obama supposedly spent on legal fees to keep his true identity a secret) without having one single shred of evidence to support their cause. Not one piece of evidence to support their silly fantasy. Put up or shut up, birthers. Really. Don't you realize how bat shit insane you appear to the rest of us?”

The evidence has been put up! You Obots just engage in massive deflection of the issue rather than deal with the actual forensic evidence. Here it is again:
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

You wouldn’t know your Ear Hole from Your A!! Hole…

If Lou Dobbs, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Dennis Praeger, Michael Savage Or [False News] didn’t Distinguish the Two Holes for You.

You wouldn’t know your Ear Hole from Your A!! Hole…

If Lou Dobbs, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Dennis Praeger, Michael Savage Or [False News] didn’t Distinguish the Two Holes for You.

How about this? Text from the First Congress describing this requirement for a natural-born Citizen:

First Congress, Session II, March 26, 1790 Approved.

” And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens; Provided that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose FATHERS have never been resident in the United States; “

“Resident” in this usage refers to someone who was in the process of naturalization. (becoming a citizen.)

Apparently the founders were Paternalists, believing that citizenship could only be conveyed by the father's lineage.

Since Obama's Father was in the process of Naturalizing to become an American Citizen, everything is okay, right ?

What's that you say ? He wasn't considered a resident under this Act of congress ? Well then, what is his son's citizenship status ?

I don't know either.

“Barry's most damaging secret may not be about citizenship or natural born status at all. There are potentially worse revelations for him than not being born where he claims.”

You're absolutely right. He's a Martian.
I said so, it's true.

To paraphrase the most trusted newsman in the US, Jon Stewart, “How about some evidence that you don’t get paid a quarter per tug”.

To paraphrase the most trusted newsman in the US, Jon Stewart, “How about some evidence that you don’t get paid a quarter per tug”.

The entire situation is nothing more than a diversion from Obama's agenda.

The Republican Governor of Hawaii has reviewed the birth documents and has flatly said they are accurate and true. The hospital administrator concurs. The newspapers ran birth announcement in 1961.

How could so many people (andy why would they) be in on such a ridiculous conspiracy.

And of course, we have Alan Keyes, who is as crazy as a loon, running the show.

If the OBOTS want to continue to make comments about birthers and completely ignore the forensic evidence then I am going to continue to post it as a reminder to them as to how DISINTERESTED they are in the real facts. My apologies to those who share concerns about Obama's deceptions.

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND, AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

The “Birthers” are the unreasonable ones. They just won't pony up the $12.00 required to pay for a copy of Obama's Birth Certificate.

Your source is some twit from TownHall.com?

What?

Karl Rove too busy?

Bullshit. The million dollar figure Birfoons lie about is the legal spending FOR HIS PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. They argue that essentially every cent spent on the entire campaign was totally for that.

Even assuming the birfoon lies are true, why shouldn't he spend the money? Does being POTUS mean he should be subject to every whim of every racist buffoon who demands that Obama prove his suitability to their personal satisfaction?

I've noticed that Senator McCain has not come forth to debunk the lies of the “birthers”. Why?

Click the link below for the punch line:
http://images7.cafepress.com/product/278928847v114_350×350_Front.jpg

See Saul Alinsky RULE 5: Ridicule is mans most potent weapon. There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

(Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear. I can remember when liberals were nice people who were just wrong about most things. Now they are wrong and nasty.)

The “progressive movement” has shown itself to be a cesspool of intolerant bullies. The trademark personal insult, name calling, ridicule, and ad hominem attacks characterize the debate style of Obama’s people That tactic has worked quite well on the ignorant and those who value feeling more than reason.

Uninformed voted Obama –
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2008/12/uninformed-voted-obama-informed-voted.html

This is not new, transformational politics. This is the rise of a New American Fascism.

You might consult an article on this blog entitled. Spot false arguments and make strong ones.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2008/11/spot-false-arguments-and-make-strong.html

Click the link below for the punch line:
http://images7.cafepress.com/product/278928847v114_350×350_Front.jpg

See Saul Alinsky RULE 5: Ridicule is mans most potent weapon. There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

(Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear. I can remember when liberals were nice people who were just wrong about most things. Now they are wrong and nasty.)

The “progressive movement” has shown itself to be a cesspool of intolerant bullies. The trademark personal insult, name calling, ridicule, and ad hominem attacks characterize the debate style of Obama’s people That tactic has worked quite well on the ignorant and those who value feeling more than reason.

Uninformed voted Obama –
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2008/12/uninformed-voted-obama-informed-voted.html

This is not new, transformational politics. This is the rise of a New American Fascism.

You might consult an article on this blog entitled. Spot false arguments and make strong ones.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2008/11/spot-false-arguments-and-make-strong.html

Oh gee, I don't know, maybe he is ignorant of the forensic evidence like the OBOTS are?

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND, AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Wrong, wrong, wrong………incorrect information. Rumor.

I'm finding this rather comical. The Obama haters are just frantic! They can't stand that this brilliant Black Man is their Commander in Chief He's so much smarter and cooler than these conservative jerks – it really is funny. Another good joke is the nonsensical chronology of this theory….he was born in Kenya but then moved to Hawaii??? Why would they lie about that? Why would there be announcements in the newspaper at that time???? Are these people just plain nuts? None of it makes any sense. Are they just stirring the pot to try and …let me think about this…..get him impeached!!! That's it! Another impeachment – that's the only way they can get anything accomplished. What a mess they left us with – and even Clinton was able to balance the budget during non-stop investigations. I think the mainstream media gives these freaks way too much attention.

Let them take it to court but I do not want to be in their shoes when everyone come and it is proven that President Obama is a citizen of the USA. How in the world did his Mother give birth to him in two different parts of the world on the same day. A nice Law suit would be nice for these so called Birther and throw Keyes in there also. That will stop it all. Every since President Obama got in there they have been trying to destroy him. But what goes around come back around. And I hope it destroy them.

Not a single GOP politician has come to Obama's defense. Why? Because they want the story to stay alive in hopes of undermining him. No other reason. They don't have any moral principles at all. And given they are the biggest sore loser crybabies on the planet, why would they try and help the man who helped sink their party to new lows?

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/30/why…
Why is there different standards of transparency?

Certification of Live Birth is not the original. The original long form of birth certificate is wants being requested.

It is not a copy that's being requested. The sealed orignal is what is being asked for. It isn't good enough to say there is a person listed on the date and place listed by one official who have seen it personally. The issue warrants a group of experts to investigate this. This isn't a you and me. This is to verify the qualification for the most powerful position of the world.

THE CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH HAS BEEN AVAILABLE FOR OVER A YEAR YOU MORON. What, should Obama mail each and every one of you mentally ill wantwits a copy?

Nice argument though, if we make fun of you idiots for filing the lawsuits that somehow Obama is equally culpable for fighting your pointless lawsuits? So by your logic since the lawsuits are baseless Obama should be obligated to accede to your demands?

yeah that makes sense. Unless you are sane.

Here's another piece of logic I have trouble with. The state of Hawaii says they can't release Obama's birth certificate without his permission. What then is that thing that is supposed to look like a computer printout of a birth certificate which is all over the net ?

Obviously the state of Hawaii DID release it or they DIDN'T release it. Which is it ?

Don't be fooled by “evidence”

I am very upset that the media and other liberals in America are ignoring the obvious fact of how the “evidence” that the “rational” people are suggesting refutes the unavoidable TRUTH that we have a Kenyan as POTUS – Time travel! Obviously, Obama and his cronies have gone back in time and changed the official records in Hawaii and posted the advertisement in the Honalulu newpaper. What's more, I have been told by an expert in such matters that Obama's time machine is fueled by t-cells extracted from third-trimester aborted fetuses and blood from endangered species. I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!! {spontaneous declaration of something irrelevant follows here}

I propose legislation to outlaw campaign time travel, but only on a going-forward basis for the next election campain, requiring all candidates to certify that they are incapable of rational thought and the discernment of truth from blithering idiocy to ensure that our govenrment is controlled by “real Americans!”

To paraphrase Stephen Colbert – it is well known that the truth has a liberal bias.

Please proof the Birther's wrong. This has been a problem since he was a presidential candidate.

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND, AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

This whole birther bull is nothing but a diversion for the wingnuts on the right. If they enjoy waving their absolute ignorance and buffoonery like badges of honor, so be it. It's nothing but veiled bigotry for those who are weak minded and see a black man ascending above their accomplishments. It's delusional losers that don't have the sense they were born with. They're comedic fodder, nothing more.

Here's your proof AstonKim!

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND, AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

This kind of stupidity and ignorance is what led to the Kennedys,King and Medgar's assassinations. Some person becomes dissatified and starts a lie and people just jump on board because it sounds right or good.These people are not brithers..they are damn FOOLS. They are angry because a black man was elected to the highest office in AMERICA and probably the WORLD. I say “get over it you ignorant,stupid fools. But then you can not fix stupid. Most ignorant people will keep trying to fix a problem the same way,thinking they just might get a different result. When will AMERICA become an INTELLIGENT NATION?

We would do it in a heatbeat if Obama didn't seal it after he visited his ill grandma in Oct 2008.

Do your own research OBOTS!!! If you would read the articles it's real easy to Google for additional information. Your not really interested in the evidence are you? You just want to discredit the author sso you don't have to admit you were duped by the usurper in the White House. Even if the authors had no more than a kindergarten education the photographic evidence shown makes it clear the document is fraudulent. Now go back and read the damn evidence and quit worrying about the authors education. Do you have to know who figured out 2+2=4 before you will believe it? Jesus H.Dopefiend! Free your mind and try logic for a change. You people are pathetic!!! More evidence for you. Oh yeah, be sure to discredit the author (credentials listed)because he wants to remain anonymous due to OBOTS who went to his house and trashed his property. REJECT SELECTIVE LOGIC!!!

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Getting tired of being proven wrong over and over? Getting tired of being called crazy? Whacko? Had enough of normal people pointing out that you are a tweaked little sick racist?

Getting tired of being proven wrong over and over? Getting tired of being called crazy? Whacko? Had enough of normal people pointing out that you are a tweaked little sick racist?

Well, another interesting point is….who are the parents? The COLB doesn't show that only the Long Form Birth Certificate does…humm

When will you exercise your intelligence and examine the forensic evidence instead of repeating OBOT mantras?

Do your own research OBOTS!!! If you would read the articles it's real easy to Google for additional information. Your not really interested in the evidence are you? You just want to discredit the author sso you don't have to admit you were duped by the usurper in the White House. Even if the authors had no more than a kindergarten education the photographic evidence shown makes it clear the document is fraudulent. Now go back and read the damn evidence and quit worrying about the authors education. Do you have to know who figured out 2+2=4 before you will believe it? Jesus H.Dopefiend! Free your mind and try logic for a change. You people are pathetic!!! More evidence for you. Oh yeah, be sure to discredit the author (credentials listed)because he wants to remain anonymous due to OBOTS who went to his house and trashed his property. REJECT SELECTIVE LOGIC!!!

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Don't try and use facts or simple logic with the birthers. They won't hear you. They've been consumed like cult members. Nothing will change their weak little minds, not one thing.

They keep asking the same dumb questions and the answers are out there, but they don't want to listen.

They ask, why doesn't he release his COLB?

The truth is Hawaii state law forbids it. Obama doesn't own it, the state of Hawaii does. They issued him a copy, like most states do, and that's what he used to get his drivers license, passport, etc.

And the birthers cannot fit this fact into their warped conspiracy, so they just hurdle right on past it as if they didn't see or hear it.

Does. Not. Compute. Consult. Altas. Shrugged. For. Next. Talking. Point.

It's called mass delusion.

This birther BS makes me ashamed to be a white man in the South, come on people he won the election…lighten up and quit acting like fools.

Oh really? then you need to tell the director that..
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
News Release
LINDA LINGLE
GOVERNOR

CHIYOME LEINAALA FUKINO M.D.
DIRECTOR
Phone: (808) 586-4410
Fax: (808) 586-4444

For Immediate Release: October 31, 2008 08-93

STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO

“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai'i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai'i.”
###
For more information, contact:
Janice Okubo
Communications Office
Phone: (808) 586-4442

I can't agree more. Obama isn't any different than past presidents and should unseal his Birth Certificate, health records, and college records. Stand up as a real man in the public that no one can question.

Schism writes:
“Not a single GOP politician has come to Obama's defense. Why? Because they want the story to stay alive in hopes of undermining him. No other reason. They don't have any moral principles at all. And given they are the biggest sore loser crybabies on the planet, why would they try and help the man who helped sink their party to new lows?”

First point, because they don't know the truth, and wonder if he is in fact legitimate? I know I do.

Second point, Obama didn't do anything to them. He's an idiot that couldn't get elected dog catcher, and the proof is that only an idiot wouldn't realize it. The News/Entertainment media waged a massive propaganda war on the U.S. voters, and the stupid half of the country bought it. With Obama's KNOWN baggage, any reasonable person would have concluded that it was impossible for him to win the election. Only a fool would have tried.

Who could have known that the News/Entertainment media would have told so many lies and covered up so many ugly truths ? That his opponent INSISTED on being a Gentleman and treating him with undeserved respect ?

Yup, only a fool would have counted on all this.

“Natural born” means “natural born”. I doubt if, when the Constitution, everybody got birth certificates. But they didn't want someone coming over from England or wherever in their thirties and getting themselves elected, they wanted to make sure it was someone who was born here and grew up here.
Maybe bureaucrats screw up, but if there's a birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper, that convinces me that he was naturally born in Hawaii, and no one should be making a fuss!
I was born in Philadelphia, I've gotten a copy from Scranton, but I have no idea what the “original” looks like or where I'd find it. But the certified copy I got works fine!

DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
News Release
LINDA LINGLE
GOVERNOR

CHIYOME LEINAALA FUKINO M.D.
DIRECTOR
Phone: (808) 586-4410
Fax: (808) 586-4444

For Immediate Release: October 31, 2008 08-93

STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO

“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai'i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai'i.”
###
For more information, contact:
Janice Okubo
Communications Office
Phone: (808) 586-4442

Obama, like many Americans, requested a certified copy of his Birth Certificate from the state in which he was born, Hawaii.

Hawaii did what they always do under such circumstances — they issued him a Certification of Live Birth, with a seal and a signature stamp.

The Obama campaign scanned it and posted it; and then invited members of the media to examine it in person at the Chicago campaign headquarters. FactCheck was the only organization to take them up on the offer, and sent representatives to look at it and photograph it.

That is where the online images come from.

Those Germans got pay a wage for working. I know for the plain simple reason I knew some of them. This society was built by the people who lived above the Mason Dixon line (look it up if you don't know what that is. This is the reason the South was always poorer than the North. There was no slavery above the Mason Dixon line. Know your American History before you make your self look so stupid.

You can debunk hardheld racist views. Racism, in and of itself is lunacy, so no one will ever “prove” anything to a racist's satisfaction.

old saying: “Never argue with a fool. People may not be able to tell the difference”

walk away from these “birther” idiots (racists).

Schism writes:

“
They ask, why doesn't he release his COLB?

The truth is Hawaii state law forbids it. Obama doesn't own it, the state of Hawaii does. They issued him a copy, like most states do, and that's what he used to get his drivers license, passport, etc.”

Okay genius. If Hawaii state law forbids it, how did he release it ?

If they DON'T forbid it, why hasn't it been released ?

I

Don't try and use facts or simple logic with the OBOTS. They won't hear you. They've been consumed like cult members. Nothing will change their weak little minds, not one thing. Except the forensic evidence which has been posted for the last hour and the OBOTS continue to completely ignore any reference to it. Sure shows who the real sheep are doesn't it?

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Have you heard him say this…because I certainly have not..and I am a political junky on all things Obama. No where has he said this.

And tell me, if you have your original copy just where do you get a copy from? All we get are copies.

They don't know the truth? Please. If there was the slightest bit of credibility towards the idiotic birther claims, it would have been widely exposed by now. Not a single newspaper, not a single news channel, not a single opposition reseacher has produced so much as a post-it worth of evidence.

You're just bitter and upset that Obama won the election. The people saw the choices presented, and they voted for the better qualified candidate. You cannot go back and argue this anymore, the election has been decided.

So you can either move forward like an adult, or you can sulk in the corner like some spoiled brat of a child.

Don't let me influence your choice.

Ludicrist because you been played. Show me the scores of Hawaiian officials that certified it. No body in Hawaiian certified it. Several states filed lawsuit to get Obama to provide his long form birth certificate. DNC hasn't done its job to vet the candidates and “ignore” lawsuit to ask them to do so. Show me links that say the secret service vetted him. When he was a senator, he wasn't required to be a “natural born citizen”.

Have a group of legal document examiner review his long form birth certificate on file in Hawaii…that's all I ask….The one that he sealed aftering a day of stopping his race to visit his ill grandma. Convenient…

The only reason it's is forbidden is they just passed the law in the last year. Gee I wonder why?

This hoopla over a non-issue (the birth certificate has been examined and verified by MANY MANY republican officials including the governor of Hawaii), is another example of how really out-of-touch republican neo-cons are.

While everyday people and others in Congress are concerned about jobs, housing, health care, terrorism, etc. those neo-con bozos continue to waste our time and money by continuing on with their ridiculous rants.

Until the republican party starts to realize that Rush Limbaugh and company are not good role models it will continue to lose members like a water pail full of holes.

No it is not the original form, Hawaii does not release copies of the original form. However, it is a legal state document signed and sealed by a duly authorized representative of the Hawaii state government that there is a legimate, original form in there files. The Certification form is a legal document recognized by the state of Hawaii, and then by every other state in the union.

The only people on this planet that don't get this are the “birthers”, get a grip and a clue. They are a bunch of ignorant racists!

Wow, Idgit the Hun, I am saying OMG!

OMG, nothing you have said so far has happened. OMG “any day now Obama will be discovered” didn’t you say that in April? Christmas is coming any day now too, and the 2012 election, which Obama will win.

Guess what, Barack Obama is President, sitting in the White House running the United States, and he will be until AT LEAST 2012.

Hey, Idgit, say “OMG”!

Wow, Idgit the Hun, I am saying OMG!

OMG, nothing you have said so far has happened. OMG “any day now Obama will be discovered” didn’t you say that in April? Christmas is coming any day now too, and the 2012 election, which Obama will win.

Guess what, Barack Obama is President, sitting in the White House running the United States, and he will be until AT LEAST 2012.

Hey, Idgit, say “OMG”!

Obama has the copy which is the document that was posted online. I don't have my original either, as my state issued me a copy too. No one gets their original.

The information contained in the version he has has been verified, repeatedly by the director of Vital Statistics of the state of Hawaii.

So do you think he's covering for Obama too?

RobertGamble writes:

“Maybe bureaucrats screw up, but if there's a birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper, that convinces me that he was naturally born in Hawaii, and no one should be making a fuss!
I was born in Philadelphia, I've gotten a copy from Scranton, but I have no idea what the “original” looks like or where I'd find it. But the certified copy I got works fine!”

The story I read says birth announcements are automatically generated by reports filed with the Dept. of Health. All this proves is that someone filed a birth report with the Dept. of Health.

You have a very “low” standard of proof required for you to believe something.
If you can game the system by getting one of the Several forms of paper work that Hawaii accepts, (including births aboard a ship in international waters.) then the Birth announcement in the local paper is automatically generated.

You are so right. Ive tried to explain to these idiot Dumbocrats but they are to stoopid to get it.

JFK authorized the DOD to begin time travel experiments they same time he gave NASA the go ahead to fake the moon landings. In one of the early experiments they traveled to 1975 and convinced the Bee Gees to give up on folk music and go disco.

Having suceeded in that JFK realized the only way he could realise his dream of putting a black muslim communist into the white house was to fake the paperwork on the birth certificates.

Its was a genius masterplan that almost worked except the patriots left in the Republican party are not going to sit idle and let it.

This is the reason why the Republican party is about to be history in the North East.

Hey OBOTS! Irregardless of whether or not the state won't release the original, the fact remains the document (COLB) furnished by Obama is a FRIGGIN FORGERY!!! But hey you don't know that because you completely refuse to examine much less even acknowledge the forensic evidence. Deflection, deflection, deflection, that is all you OBOTS are capable of. pathetic puppets!!!

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

See now most people would let the fact that he didn't seal it get in the way of them claiming he did.

I'm glad to see you aren't such a slave to “reality” or “facts” or pesky things like that.

What law are you talking about?

For Greg and all the other “birthers” in this comment section,
Get thee to a doctor NOW. You all need to have the dose of your psych meds adjusted up immediately. The current dose is obvious ineffective and once again your suffering from delusions.
Oh wait, that means you'd have to see a doctor. do you have a healthcare plan? No? That's because you're wasting your time on this B.S. and not focusing on the REAL issues facing this country.
Face it, you don't like the person who WON the election. In fact, you don't the team he plays for. GET OVER IT!
You can't stomach the fact that he has the potential to get things done to FIX this country after the class clown and darth vader were “running” it for the last 8 years. so you resort to B.S. found on the internet as your “proof.” Just remember when you toss s–t, it tends to hit right back in the face. You better have some handiwipes near by. You're gonna need 'em!

franceebee you said “I suspect that the person or persons for the state of Hawaii who encoded the original birth certificate onto electronic media actually SAW the “original birth certificate”

And they would have remembered that ONE particular birth certificate out of all those hundreds of thousands produced by their department? Yeah, right. *lol* Use YOUR head next time.

franceebee you said “I suspect that the person or persons for the state of Hawaii who encoded the original birth certificate onto electronic media actually SAW the “original birth certificate”

And they would have remembered that ONE particular birth certificate out of all those hundreds of thousands produced by their department? Yeah, right. *lol* Use YOUR head next time.

Way to go Lynne! As an OBOT you have engaged in deflection once again and choose to maintain a closed mind and ignore the forensic evidence. Good little puppet!!!

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

You must be working really hard at NOT getting this, otherwise you’d have to be dumb as a post.

You don’t get a certificate of live birth from a state if you weren’t born there. Period. End of story. I was born in FL, I cannot get a BC from California, I have to get one from the STATE THAT CERTIFIES MY LIVE BIRTH. How are you confused by that?

Born in Hawaii = eligible for state issued BC = natural born citizen = eligible to be pres.

It really is that simple.

You must be working really hard at NOT getting this, otherwise you’d have to be dumb as a post.

You don’t get a certificate of live birth from a state if you weren’t born there. Period. End of story. I was born in FL, I cannot get a BC from California, I have to get one from the STATE THAT CERTIFIES MY LIVE BIRTH. How are you confused by that?

Born in Hawaii = eligible for state issued BC = natural born citizen = eligible to be pres.

It really is that simple.

This is racism pure and simple – and they won't get over it because as that woman “birther” said – “I want my country back” – translation – only white people allowed – unless of course you are a slave or low wage worker who can take care of us white people. You had white men for the first 43 presidents. And you still are in charge since you run most of global capitalism. Did anyone ever ask one of the white guys for a birth certificate – racist fools!

I bet Greg is from the South…

Cathy I couldn't agree with you more!

Pure bullshit OBOT!! But hey nice job of deflection and once again ignoring the forensic evidence by liscensed professional document examiners. Good little pupett!!

Do your own research OBOTS!!! If you would read the

articles it's real easy to Google for additional

information. Your not really interested in the evidence

are you? You just want to discredit the author so you

don't have to admit you were duped by the usurper in the

White House. Even if the authors had no more than a

kindergarten education the photographic evidence shown

makes it clear the document is fraudulent. Now go back

and read the damn evidence and quit worrying about the

authors education. Do you have to know who figured out

2+2=4 before you will believe it? Jesus H.Dopefiend!

Free your mind and try logic for a change. You people

are pathetic!!! More evidence for you. Oh yeah, be sure

to discredit the author (credentials listed)because he

wants to remain anonymous due to OBOTS who went to his

house and trashed his property. REJECT SELECTIVE

LOGIC!!!

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Schism writes:
“Obama has the copy which is the document that was posted online. I don't have my original either, as my state issued me a copy too. No one gets their original.

The information contained in the version he has has been verified, repeatedly by the director of Vital Statistics of the state of Hawaii.”

First point, they may not get their original, but they get all the INFORMATION that is on there original. I just got my Son's birth certificate (so he could get a drivers license) and it contains ALL the information that the original had. Hell, it may even be a copy of the original. It has the Doctor's Signature on it and all !

Second point. It has not. They simply claim he has one. They give no details as to what is on it. If the Man was foreign born but adopted, his original birth certificate would not be permitted to be seen. The NEW one which he would be issued would demonstrate that a man who was not his father was his father. I know this because this happened to me. I am adopted. My real father's name is NOT on my birth certificate.

I KNOW my official birth certificate will yield false information. Why is it unreasonable to scrutinize a high officials birth with these sorts of legal technicalities in mind ?

mgrip — I think Greg likes farm animals too. LOL

So your expert is some person who will not reveal his identity, who has never seen the document but has come to the conclusion that it's a fake?

Wow, that sure sounds compelling and convincing to me. Game over, Obama. You might as well pack up and leave now, because Dr Polaroid has the goods on you.

Not even Fox News will have this person on, what does that tell you about his credibility?

Exactly, it was so obvious in 1961 this black baby with a muslim name was a shoe in for the presidency, his Mom had to fly to Hawaii and bribe the department of health to issue this fake COLB. Then the birth announcements were generated automatically.

Then all they had to do was sit back and wait 40 years for him to get elected and force us all to have health care.

Why cant the libs see the obvious?

The governor sealed it from release one day after Obama visited his ill grandma in Oct 2008.

I see. Well, maybe someone with a high standard of proof can explain how a young mother gave birth in Kenya and gamed the system by getting the paperwork to Honolulu so that the birth announcement would be published within a few days of the birth — in such a way that no one would know it was transmitted from overseas.

In 1961.

Really, let's some of the evidence that meets your high standards!

Which Doctor delivered Obama?

I DARE the media to ask him (or Gibbs) this question.

Which Doctor delivered Obama?

I DARE the media to ask him (or Gibbs) this question.

why don't you go back to the farm where you belong! wha wha wha

I think it's a racial thing. You have these fat, wealthy white men of the Republican party, who are incredibly distressed that an African-American is in office. So they will l try to discredit him any way possible. How do we know W was a natural born citizen? he never showed his birth certificate to anyone. And besides, factcheck.org was there, in person and verified the legitimacy of his citizenship. So all you knuckleheads can gt back to listening to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity now, and come up with another mode of attack…LOL

Pacific Northwest genius! I do research for a living and I have looked at the forensic evidence and for those who have not surrendered their minds to Big Brother it is clear the document is a fraud!!

Do your own research OBOTS!!! If you would read the

articles it's real easy to Google for additional

information. Your not really interested in the evidence

are you? You just want to discredit the author so you

don't have to admit you were duped by the usurper in the

White House. Even if the authors had no more than a

kindergarten education the photographic evidence shown

makes it clear the document is fraudulent. Now go back

and read the damn evidence and quit worrying about the

authors education. Do you have to know who figured out

2+2=4 before you will believe it? Jesus H.Dopefiend!

Free your mind and try logic for a change. You people

are pathetic!!! More evidence for you. Oh yeah, be sure

to discredit the author (credentials listed)because he

wants to remain anonymous due to OBOTS who went to his

house and trashed his property. REJECT SELECTIVE

LOGIC!!!

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Will a native American Indian please stand up and run for President in 2012 and shut up these European American transplants who stole the country from them. Then maybe we will get to the bottom of who is really a natural born American citizen! It won't be anybody white for certain!

You’re most welcome, 0bamorrhoid, you’re welcome!

You’re most welcome, 0bamorrhoid, you’re welcome!

Read the letter. What information did the director verified? He seen it but what did he see. You don't understand what is being ask for in the Long Form Certificate.

Wow another idiot from Texas.

While we're on the subject of the peculiarities surrounding Obama's birth, how many of you people out there know that there are Naked Pictures of Obama's mother on the internet ?

No joke. I mean True, authentic pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham, Naked, and posing for the camera.

Don't believe me ? Got to google and type in Obamas Naughty Mama. You will find a link to a story that shows 3 naked pictures of the Presidents mother.

Compare them to OTHER pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham on the internet. Notice that the upper incisor that is askew in pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham is Also askew in the pictures of the Naked woman.

You can argue that the woman is a look alike, but a look alike with the same bad tooth ?
Not bloody likely.

Irregardless isn't a word.

It is simple to debunk… have experts verified the original long form birth certificate. If you don't understand what is being asked… You should reserve judgement until you understand the issue.

Obama's mother is Naked !

Google “Obamas Naughty Mama.”

Yea, you do research for the Mothership right? I hear they're coming to take you away, ha ha, he he… Get your meds adjusted, dude.

The information contained in the version he has has been verified, repeatedly by the director of Vital Statistics of the state of Hawaii.”

No it has not!! That's Obama's lapdog media lie.

Dr. Alvin Onaka, the Hawaii State Registrar and Head of the Office of Health Status Monitoring (OSHM), of which Vital Records is a part actually said “”Absolutely not. No one in our office confirmed it.”

Again, more deflection from an OBOT. More refusal to examine the forensic evidence that Obama's COLB is a “sloppy forgery”.

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Listen genius, not matter what evidence is given to refute your claims, you are still not going to believe it. So I suggest you back to your cabin and burn your Unabomber Manifesto…

You need help. Badddddd.

Nitalia writes:
“Will a native American Indian please stand up and run for President in 2012 and shut up these European American transplants who stole the country from them. Then maybe we will get to the bottom of who is really a natural born American citizen! It won't be anybody white for certain!”

I'm part Cherokee and part Blackfoot. My brother is married to a Comanche, and they have given me the Honorary Comanche name of Dawiegiwa. ( during a small ceremony )

Do I count ?

Greg, buddy, just calm down there, little fella. Take a deep breath, let it out, good.

Feel better now?

Oooh Lynne, good little OBOT, resorting to DEMOCON smear tactics now rather than actually have anything to do with acknowledging or examining the forensic evidence that the certificate Obama provided is a “sloppy forgery”.

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Post your information where “ANY” officials have examine and shown the records?

It isn't a left / right issue when someone potentially falsify his records. Both party should do what's right and force Obama to provide original proof.

Maybe McCain's investigators did not get their facts correct or are were just lousy investigators. He did not win, did not even try to win; all his wind had gone with the years. He was duped into following the in crowd to poverty.

Maybe you should retry your facts with some common sense and tally the lies that our “POTUS” has endeavoured us with since 2007.

Well put. Let's not split hairs. “Birthers” are just thinly-veiled Racist Bigots, and should be called out as such.

We had to put up for 8 years with a president who didn't win either election fairly – rampant voter fraud in Florida in 2000 put him in office. By all counts, even the under the most conservative-friendly methods, Gore won Florida.

But we liberals shut up, let the voter fraud go unpunished. Don't give the appearance of sour grapes, we were told.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot, even though this President won so decisively, they are choosing to make up treasonous reasons not to acknowledge him as our Commander-in-Chief.

Hypocrites, bigots, racists… That is who the Birther Movement is.

No, you don't. Besides, we don't need a racist/bigot in the White House.

The guys in the white coats are coming up the walkway. Can ya hear 'em Greg? They're coming to take you away. You're gonna like that padded room. You can bounce off the walls all day long.

I smell OBOT deflection!!! Pooh flinging monkey tactic #371.

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

You seem to have done some research. Do you know about the Naked pictures of Obama's mother ?

Get it through your skull.

Medical records (such as a “long form birth certificate”) are private. Sealed. Protected under law.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOW THEM TO ANYONE.

And they don't have much that the “short form” doesn't have. Get over yourself, you racist bigot.

You listen to too much of Hannity and Limbaugh. It shows in some of your ignorant posts.

Which doctor delivered you? Do you know? I don't know the name of the doctor who delivered me. So what? What does that prove? It proves nothing. It proves how stupid and desperate and craven you are.

The evidence is 100% on Obama's side, and you know it. But you just cannot accept it.

Birthers, you really need to put up, or shut up. It's that simple. The burden of proof is on you.

If your only evidence is from some anonymous blogger, that's laughably pathetic.

His campaign is “Change”…. but I don't think you consider what “KIND” of change. It is redicules the amount of argment on this issue when it could have been a non-issue before he became president. The one who can fix his refuses to fix it. So let it be.

“FOR THE LAST TIME”

That is the statement I like best – if only I believed it.

I'm a 40 yr old, white male Southerner (registered Indepedent) and I agree w/Jimmy Green. Please stop making yourselves look like lunatics.

YOU LOST THE ELECTION, NOW DEAL WITH IT. A guy w/a black father and white mother is NOT your enemy. Stop acting the fool. Now. Please. This is getting really embarrassing and we have a few REAL PROBLEMS to deal with….

Hey, diogenes, go look up “burden of proof” — you can even use Wikipedia if you like.

Don’t worry, we’ll still be mocking you when you get back.

Oh wait, hold on, the President is on tv. Whaddaya know, it’s still the black guy! I thought for sure they would have deported him by now, on the strength of what World Net Daily and Alan Keyes say…

You dumb libs think Obama is an American.

I just got an email from a Kenyan Prince who is having legal difficulties but if I send a money order for $8,000 to a post office box in Nigeria, he will put me in touch with a member of the Kenyan Royal Family that is willing to meet me in Times Square and give me Barry Soteros original long form Keyan Birth Certificate.

So long suckers!

Here's a clue to birthers, Hillary Clinton did more oppo research on Obama than Mccain did.

And she found nothing.

Game over, birthers. The longer you stay at this, the more you hurt your own party. Don't you realize this yet? No wonder people don't take republicans seriously anymore. No wonder they have been reduced to being a southern, regional party. All the sane people have left, and it's just the die-hards now.

Way to go fuzzyfitz77, sincerely! Whoa, folks we have a live, thinking rational being amongst us! He is actually aware of the multitude of Obama's lies. (here's where OBOTS go GWB on us!) Let me remind Obama's pooh flinging monkeys of a few of those lies they convenienly continue to ignore: Obama's Documented Lies: 158 and remarkably still growing

# 158 Obama claims he wrote letter to US Treasurer to try to prevent the housing crisis; but he acted only AFTER he had caused it by blocking McCain's bill
# 157 Obama claims he is bipartisan ; Congressional Quarterly shows he voted with his party 97% of the time
# 156 Obama's dirty lie scares seniors: falsely claims McCain plans to cut $880 billion from Medicare: liar liar liar says Annenberg Factcheck
# 155 Obama lies about his mother turning to food stamps AND still sending him to top schools; his grandmother paid for education
# 154 Obama lied about being asked to wear dead soldier's bracelet: family had asked Obama to stop wearing it
# 153 Obama claimed all new spending is economic plan was self-funding; short by $3.5 Trillion says nonpartisan Tax Policy Center
# 152 Obama denied Admiral Mike Mullen had called Obama's Iraqi troop plan “dangerous”; Mullen made comment on Fox in July 2008 according to WaPo
# 151 Obama lied about Kissinger's views of diplomacy during first debate; Kissinger confirms the lie
# 150 During Debate 1 Obama denied voting to tax some people making $42000 a year: Annenburg Factcheck,org confirms Obama is lying
# 149 After Debate 1, Team Obama denied Obama ever said, “Iran's not a threat”: Video proves Obama DID say “Iran is NOT a threat.”
# 148 Obama claims under McCain employers would be taxed on the health care benefits it grants to workers; he's lying
# 147 Obama refers to an Iraqi surplus of $79 billion and says US should have it; its $60 billion and dwindling
# 146 Obama claims only 5% of Americans would see tax increase; he's grossly understating the number of people effected
# 145 Obama accuses McCain of lying about Biden being against clean coal; video proves Obama is lying
# 144 Obama claims McCain is opposed to abortion in cases of rape or incest; McCain has never held that position.
# 143 Obama accuses McCain of making an ad about Obama's vote to approve leaving babies who survive abortion procedures to die; McCain did not make the ad
# 142 Obama's ad on abortion claims BHO always supported medical care to protect infants; text of the Bill he supported shows he wanted babies born alive after abortions to be left to die
# 141 Obama's ad on abortion uses quotes by journalists who made negative comments about a McCain ad; but Obama is misleading because both journalists have been proven to be incorrect
# 140 Obama's lying when he says McCain's ad misstated BHO's Sex Ed for Kindergartners Bill: McCain's ad was accurate; here's the Sex Ed Bill text
# 139 Obama and Biden both truncate McCain's comments on the strength of the economy's fundamentals: deliberate distortion
# 138 Biden claims McCain tried to hurt our veterans by denying them educational benefits; NewsWeek confirms Biden is lying
# 137 Obama claims under McCain, Elderly would have had Social Security tied up in the Stock market; Newsweek cries BS
# 136 Obama claims his opponent will cut social security in half: NOT true; Obama guilty of scare-mongering aimed at Seniors
# 135 Biden claims McCain wouldn't help small borrowers hurt by housing crisis; this is untrue according to Newsweek
# 134 Obama claimed during the primary he had more Ex President Clinton Foreign Policy advisers than Sen. Clinton; she had 70% more
# 133 Obama claimed his father served in World War 2: his Kenyan-born father never served
# 132 Obama grossly misquoted Sen.Clinton about her vote on a banking bill; BHO used the false quote to show why voters don't trust Government
# 131 Obama claimed employers are more likely to be struck by lightning than be prosecuted for employing illegals; Gov stats prove he's lying
# 130 Pushing his Green agenda Obama claimed Japanese Car average 45 mpg fuel efficiency; its actually around 29 mph
# 129 Obama disparaged the President saying he hadn't met with auto makers until the sixth year of his presidency; GWB met automakers in April 2003
# 128 Obama disparaged the efficiency of our healthcare system saying the U.S. spends twice per capita than other countries: WaPo proves he's lying
# 127 Obama claims President Clinton's Labor Secretary said BHO's healthcare plan, “Does more than anybody to reduce costs”; Robert Reich did NOT say it
# 126 Obama falsely claimed he won the Michigan Democrat primary: he was not on the ballot
# 125 Obama's Spanish language ad lies about McCain's position on immigration; tries to stir race-war: lies debunked by ABC
# 124 Obama lies about his interference in Iraqi negotiations; but his campaign admits his treachery
# 123 Obama took credit for the economic stimulus package passed in Feb 08; BHO's colleagues on Capitol Hill cry BS
# 122 Obama claims Big Oil is ignoring 68 million acres of oil fields they could be drilling; most fields are being worked
# 121 Obama claims never questions his opponent's patriotism; asks of McCain “WHICH country first?”: ABC says he's questioning McCain's patriotism
# 120 Obama claims personal savings rates are lowest since the Great Depression; currently higher than under President Clinton
# 119 Obama claims on this video that he doesn't switch positions; list of 31 flip flops show he's lying
# 118 In the Primaries Obama puffed his resume claiming he was a “Professor”; State Senate bio shows he was not ; he now agrees
# 117 When Obama ran for US Senate his web site claimed “5 years as a community organizer”; he admits it was only 3 years
# 116 Obama's attack ad in Michigan claims McCain doesn't support loan guarantees for auto-industry. McCain DOES support them
# 115 Obama says “if we're STILL in recession when he takes office…etc”; the economy is NOT in recession
# 114 Obama claims he signed up for Selective Service when he graduated from High School; records show he did NOT until he'd been at college 1 year
# 113 Attacking Palin, Obama has the audacity to claim,”Words mean something; you can't just make things up “; BHO makes stuff up
# 112 Biden claims McCain will increase taxes for workers & Obama will only increase taxes on those making $435k: he's lying
# 111 Biden claims Obama drew the Nation's attention to problems at Walter Reed Army Hospital; it was two WaPo reporters that reported the issues to the Nation
# 110 to make Obama seems more American/less exotic, Biden tells Scranton crowd Obama grew up in Kansas; BHO grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia
# 109 Obama lies yet again to disparage Gov. Palin; ignores her executive experience as Governor of Alaska
# 108 Obama says the US economy has failed under Bush; World Bank stats proves Obama's been lying; US a world leader in growth, employment, incomes
# 107 Obama claims if you are born into poverty in America you are on your own: there are many government programs
# 106 Obama claims he's bi-partisan: voting records prove Obama is #11 most partisan
# 105 Claimed Hillary would be on anyone's short-list; Hillary wasn't on Obama's short-list
# 104 Obama claims abortion rates have not gone down under the Bush Administration; stats show they have gone down
# 103 Obama dismissed Bomber Bill Ayers as “some guy who lives in the neighborhood”;they had a close working relationship
# 102 Obama claims there's no charge to attend his acceptance speech: CBS 4 in Denver proves he's lying; some tickets cost $1000
# 101 Obama used being a first-time-buyer to justify consulting with Rezko before he bought his house; BHO had already purchased a residence
# 100 Obama lies about his support for infanticide; campaign concedes in 03 he opposed a bill stopping the killing of kids born alive after abortions
# 99 Obama overstates Oil Industry's contributions to McCain; ignores cash the Oil industry gave BHO; Newsweek debunks
# 98 To belittle America,Obama exaggerated the growth in Debt under the current Administration; debunked by WaPo
# 97 Obama claims President George W Bush had not left the country before he became President; WaPo confirms he's lying
# 96 To promote “green”, Obama claimed he drove a vehicle that uses ethanol; GM confirmed the model was NOT ethanol-ready
# 95 Obama claims he's taking his family for a week's rest in Hawaii with no campaigning; schedules a rally for first day
# 94: Obama claims “properly inflating tires” will save as much energy as we could drill offshore; analysis shows not even close
# 93 Obama denies accusing McCain of using race against him; ABC, NYT confirm Obama did accuse McCain of making racial attacks
# 92 Obama claims he's not being political when he's flip-flopping; timing & direction of major flip-flops show he's lying
# 91: Obama INVENTS a wall between Christians and Jews; deceptively omits the major religious wall is caused by a “fatwah” to kill American Christians and Jews
# 90 Obama claims he made a substantive call for Germany to help in Iraq; Berlin speech transcript proves he's lying
# 89: Obama admits he underestimated the decline in violence from the Surge; falsely claims McCain made same mistake
# 88 Obama turned a disappointing crowd of 20,000 into media reports of 200,000
# 87 Obama lied about his father's religious upbringing! half-brother confirms Obama's father was “RAISED Muslim”
# 86 Obama claimed we only made one fundraising trip to Florida during the Primary; Florida papers proved he lied
# 85 Claims reducing obesity to 80's levels would save Medicaid ONE TRILLION DOLLARS; not even close
# 84 To make Iraq/Afghan Wars look bad, Obama claimed demands on Nat Guard personnel hurt flood relief; Guards prove lying
# 83 Claimed due to overseas commitments, too few helecopters were available to help with Midwest flood relief; now concedes not true
# 82 Starting in Iowa, Obama claimed Clinton's healthcare plan would “punish families that couldn't afford healthcare”; NYT calls BS
# 81 Obama claims McCain's tax plan will do nothing to help the middle-class: The Tax Policy Center proves he's lying
# 80 claims the use of an Email with a big red DONATE button is NOT a fundraising solicitation
# 79 Obama claims his trip to Europe was non-political: uses video of Berlin speech to raise money within hours
# 78 Tells NBC that during the debate on the Surge he said the Surge would work in Baghdad; video proves during the debate he said the opposite
# 77 Obama's “Changing World” ad claims he'll fast-track alternatives to oil to stop us buying from hostile nations; “fast track” is totally misleading
# 76 Obama tells Israeli media that he's a member of the Senate Banking Committee; CNN confirms he's delusional
# 75 Obama claims Lou Dobbs caused hate crimes against Latinos to double; the FBI and CNN confirm Obama is lying
# 74 Obama claims the military brass think like he does; top US commanders say his plan for Iraq is unworkable
# 73: Obama promised to filibust FISA; later Obama voted for FISA and now denies changing his position
# 72 Obama belittles Americans claiming we can't speak European languages; he's talking merde; mierda; Scheiße
# 71 Obama denied he accused President Bush of starting the War for political reasons; Russert transcript proves Obama made that false claim
# 70 Obama claims there has been substantial job losses from NAFTA; Independent studies show its at least” job neutral”
# 69 Claimed in Feb 08 he got 90% of funds from donors giving $25, $50; fed filings show he got only about a third from donors below $200
# 68 Obama rewrites history about what specifically he had said during his October 2002 anti-war speech
# 67 Obama claimed in 04 that he had never supported bringing troops out of Iraq; rare video of 03 Teamsters rally shows he's lying
# 66 Obama lied about the softness of the Stock Market to support his false claim the War was being used to distract the public
# 65 To justify move to private funds, Obama claims McCain's campaign is” fuelled” by PACs and Lobbyists; its less than 2% of McCain's money
# 64 Obama's “Dignity” ad claims he “worked his way” thru college and law school; campaign admits only two summer jobs
# 63 Obama's “Dignity” ad gives him credit for reducing Welfare rolls by 80%: he's deceptive as he was opposed to Fed Welfare Reform in '96
# 62 In Obama's The Country I love ad, he takes credit for passing a healthcare bill he did NOT vote for
# 61 Claims he first ran in Chicago as an unendorsed candidate; his '96 election questionnaire proves he had several
# 60 Obama claims he wants a vigorous and open debate on the issues: then goes out of his way to avoid it
# 59 Obama omits key details about a false rumor re video of Michelle's “whitey” rant to justify breaking his public funding promise
# 58 Obama tries to deceive about why he voted “present” more than 100 times in the Illinois Senate; Chicago paper reveals the truth
# 57 Trying to claim patriotism Obama says his grandad signed up the day after Pearl Harbor; army records disagree
# 56 Claims race and party not important to how people vote as they put America first; 93% block vote disproves
# 55 On June 5, Obama stated that Israel must remain undivided; June 6 on CNN he reversed his position, but denied he had done so
# 54 To further his own agenda, Obama grossly overstates the number of potential African-American votes in MS, GA, SC
# 53 Promise of $2500 reduction in Healthcare premiums needs billions in Admin cost savings by 2012: not possible
# 52 Obama omits to mention his 3 week trip to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan until it slips out trying to out-do Clinton
# 51 Obama claims McCain wants to wage a lengthy war in Iraq: Video proves Obama's lying
# 50 Obama claimed he never prayed in a mosque; his campaign had to retract that statement
# 49 Obama dishonestly used endorsements in ads to pump up his healthcare plan
# 48 Claims he never discussed politics with Pastor; rebutted by photo of Obama with team of lobbyists led by Wright
# 47 Obama, an expert at parsing words, claimed he wasn't familiar with the word “Clintonian”; then changed his story
# 46 Despite reeking of cigarettes, Obama denied smoking to ABC; now admits smoking on MSNBC
# 45 Obama said he'd meet unconditionally with Leader of Iran: now claims he “didn't have Ahmadinejad in mind”
# 44 Obama claims he is using public financing to avoid special interests: WSJ nails his switcheroo
# 43 Obama's rhetoric claims more young black men in jail than college: BoJ Stats disprove
# 42 Claims he never said he was a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare; Video proves he did
# 41 Obama claims remarks to industrialists were greeted with silence, shows he can deliver tough message: video of ovation
# 40 Obamas claim you dont rip opponents & leave on roadside:he did to Alice Palmer
# 39 Obama denies saying Indiana could be tie-breaker: he did
# 38 Obama omits that Pastor Wright led divestiture campaign from Israel
# 37 Obama claims Church not controversial; he knew it was controversial since 86
# 36 Lied about intention of taking US out of NAFTA
# 35 Obamas claim poverty growing up: both distort reality
# 34 Obama denies meeting Saddam's Auchi; sworn Fed. witness places Obama at undisclosed party for Auchi at Rezkos
# 33 Obama lies about not attacking Clinton over her Bosnia lies
# 32 Obama claims he passed ethics reform; ABC News shows he lied
# 31 Obama says he's consistently opposed NAFTA; in October 2007 he supported expansion to Peru
# 30 Obama claims he's above dirty political tricks; Clinton proves he lies
# 29 Obama claims his “bitter” remarks were mangled; then repeats attacks on guns religion and angry people
# 28 Obama claims never said he wouldn't wear US flag-pin; video shows he did
# 27 Obama says he did no favors for Rezko;untrue; he lobbied for him
# 26 Changes story repeatedly re Rezko's help in buying mansion
# 25 Obama claims he never supported a ban on handguns; he has twice
# 24 Obama claims stays at UCC as Pastor acknowledged comments were inappropriate; Wright never made this statement
# 23 Campaign is beholden to “only the people” as unlike McCain/Clinton he does not take lobbyist /PAC money; LIES!
# 22 Claims campaign never called Canada to say Obama not truthful re wanting leave NAFTA; smoking gun memo proves lied
# 21 Mrs Obama admits she's never been proud of America; Video disproves Sen. Obama's later claim she was misquoted
# 20 Claimed would not run for President, as he would not be qualified by 2008: confirmed 3 times to Tim Russert in one 2006 interview
# 19 Claims famous in Il. for not letting lobbyists even buy him lunch; took from teachers, trial lawyers, hospital admins
# 18 Claims his parents met at Selma civil rights march; Washington Post noted it occurred 4 yrs after Obama's birth
# 17 BO claims courageously opposed war in 2002 during US Senate campaign; He did not announce his senate bid until 2003
# 16 Claims he passes tough Nuclear Law; NYT uncovers he took Nuclear Industry pay-off and watered down the bill
# 15 Claimed he didn't know Rezko was corrupt when did a real estate deal with him; Chicago papers prove he lied
# 14 Claims does not accept money from Big Oil: Real Clear Politics proves he lied
# 13 Denies using his Hopefund PAC to influence endorsers; but the Washington Post reviewed the record and disagreed
# 12 Claims his State Chair is not a drug company lobbyist; Time magazine cries Bullshit
# 11 Lies about how much he received in campaign funds from Rezko; forced to significantly increase the amount twice
# 10 Claims he did not fill out the 1996 candidate questionaire; Politico proves he lied
# 9 Took credit for achievement of others in Chicago; resume puffing exposed by LA Times
# 8 Claims he kept no State Senate records; now he changes his story
# 7 Denies doubling wife's salary was due to becoming US Senator; omits within months he earmarked $1 million for hospital
# 6 Denied meeting Saddam bagman Auchi; now admits he was at his dinner but does not remember talking to him
# 5 Denies using his church for politics: IRS disagree
# 4 Claims he was unaware of Pastor Wrights 911 comments: NYT proves he lied
# 3 Claims his father was a goat-herd; actually he was a man of privilige
# 2 Claims not an active muslim as child; Indonesian paper proves he lied
# 1 Claims father linked to Kennedys; Washington Post proves he lied

Obama WTF defines “DOCUMENTED LIE ” as :

1) a statement by one or more reliable news agencies or credible authorities citing supporting verifiable facts which rebut a reported statement by Obama.
2) observable video/transcript contradictions
3) the omission of an important fact the exclusion of which defies common sense unless the intent is to deceive

This therefore EXCLUDES unintentional gaffes eg the Auschwitz Memorial Day blip; the 57 States etc which can be found at New Gaffe City

This therefore also excludes Flip Flops unless

a) Obama is seen to be holding multiple positions depending on the audience, eg The Jerusalem flip flop…where his position was altered with 18 hours, talking to different audiences.
or b) Obama lies about holding a different position e.g denying he favored gun control

Credit to each of the following news outlets who are some of the most cited in the List of Documented Lies:

1. Annenberg Factcheck.org; at U Penn
2. At the St Petersberg Times; http://www.politifact.com
3. Washington Post Fact Checker …Michael Dobbs
4. Top of the Ticket Blog at the LA Times;
5. Political Punch at ABC News.com.
6. Dozens of other major news orgs are quoted to provide support for one or more lies

# Related Stories
# 31 Flip Flops
# 53 Obama Gaffes
# 41 Obama Acts of Hypocrisy
# Top 126 Obama Videos
# Quiz: Do you agree with Obama on these 20 Issues?
# 53 Under-the-bus
# 31 Zingers on Obama
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/05/documented…

Of course, all previous president has no issue to show their birth certificate, medical, and college records. Even Sotomayer showed all her records…. why the discrepancy?… .. I ain't white but my own research shows that Obama isn't who he said he is. People don't know who they elected because he is very good at deflection and is very eloquent.

Racist applies only to whites. They Invented it, but they cant take the push back.

What these folks can't believe is that a Black man legally got elected president of the United States with more than 50% of the vote. They want him to fail. They want the country to fail.

Yes, I see exactly what you mean – all I have to do is ignore real evidence and use only right-wing blogs like freaking Townhall and Atlas Shrugged and THEN I'll know the Real Truth, right?

Cause Townhall and Atlas Shrugged only prints verifiable facts, never propaganda, right? Everyone knows that if you want the truth about anything, the righ-wing freak show blogs is where to get it, right?

Now that you've petty well proven that you have absolutely NO credibility, don't you have some naked pictures of Obama's mom that you want to post somewhere?

No, so long to you Christian whacko. You are welcome to leave this country anytime. Trust me when I say, we won't miss you. Why don't you take some of those fine republicant senators and governors with you. You know the ones I'm talking about. The ones who preach to the rest of us about being “good Christians” and having morals but have none themselves.

You listen to too much of Hannity and Limbaugh. It shows in some of your ignorant posts.

NAH! I actually made the time and took the effort to examine the forensic evidence with pictures included and came to my own conclusion rather than getting on the group think peer pressure bandwagon. You I see surrendered your mind to the group and try to use insults rather than logic to attempt a point by point refutation of the forensic evidence noted by qualified document examiners. How smart is that? Care to free your mind? here you go…………It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

This isn't a new issue. The birth issue has been around before he was president.

Simply put. If he is electable…then there is nothing to hide.

More deflection OBOT and tiresome refusal to deal with the forensic evidence Billary did not do. Here's your chance to free your mind……………..It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Racism is alive and well in our country, sadly.

AstonKim is back To attempt new deflection tactic which continues the tiresome refusal to acknowledge or examine the forensic and photographic evidence which clearly shows the document Obama provided is forged. AstonKim, here is your chance to free your mind……….
It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Please, show us exactly who the “liscensed professional document examiners” you refer to are.

I know you can't do that, of course, bcause they don't exist outside your fevered brain.

Give it up, loser. You have NO credibility – there is NO controversy, outside for the question of how many genuinely certified birther nuts there are running around, playing with their teabags.

Look, I am sympathetic to your pain. You're a terminally sore loser who refuses to admit that you had your ass kicked. You're a blatant racist who has had your ass kicked by a man of color. This must be a frustrating time for you.

But just because you are a racist loser who has had his ass kicked does not mean we're going for a ride with you to Crazy Town.

Why don't you take your teabags – and go away.

the article is utter nonsense.
1 you can get a colb and still be born outside the country. i wonder why that wasn't mentioned in the article
2 when the state of hawaii said they have a bc, what does that prove? you act like it proves something. it proves nothing, morons. the birth cert they have is where the real info is. THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO SEE IT! CAPICHE?
3 the ads in the honolulu newpapers were put there by the state, not by obama's family! this is what the hospitals say. at that time, the info came from the gov't. it's not a contemporaneous anything of substance. jeesh
4 did you ever think that the constitution using citizen in one place and natural born citizen in another place JUST MIGHT mean that they are two different things? holy cow!
5 why did they do an exhaustive research on mccain in the senate and leave all this on obama untouched?

How pathetic. So he and Sara really were trying to get something on Obama. This man is such a hypocrite. Even today, he could have a press conference and tell those in the “birther” movement that he has looked into this and all is well. Their accusations are baseless.

But he won't do that. Because he is pathetic.

Hey OBOTS, all we're asking you to do is think a little. Use your minds. Nobody (and I mean NOBODY) is elected president without the help of some very powerful people. These people have the ability to warp history so it matches up to their desires.

Take George W Bush. He was a draft dodger who didn't even finish his stint in the National Guard because he was taking cocaine and couldn't pass a physical. The man was a coward who spit on the people who fought for this country. But that didn't matter. Powerful people wanted him to be president so they changed the records to it looked like Bush didn't quit the National Guard because he was a crackhead.

Same with Obama. These same powerful people want Obama to be President the same way they wanted Bush to be President. So they changed the records for Obama like they did for Bush. Now all of a sudden Obama was born in the USA.

Bush is a crackhead, draft dodging coward and Obama was born in Kenya. That's what the records say. The question is can you see it.

Ah dude snopes.com debunks a lot of your so called lies.

Obama Sr. was indeed a goat farmer at one point in his life.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp

Whoopee, three more OBOTS resorting to deflection tactics in a desperate attempt to avoid at all cost having to acknowledge or examine the forensic and photographic evidence And, in reality posting their deflection in the hope that you too will ignore the evidence of document experts and buy the group think mantras. What's next OBOTS? I've got all day!!!

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

The guys in white coats are your door, Greg. They're coming in. They've got the nice white jacket to wear. It will make you feel all safe and warm. don't you worry now.
they probably need to let your psych doc know to check your blood pressure. you're gonna burst a blood vessel if you don't calm down.
Nice padded room, snug jacket, quiet, calm…..

How sad for you. Such anger! Do you think for one minute that the FBI hasn't looked into this? Obama has a top secret clearance! John McCain's campaign investigated this last year and found that the certificate of birth was valid. They dropped the issue as it is not an issue.

And by the way, Obama's mommy was a citizen, thus he is a citizen no matter where he was born.

For all those who doesn't understand the issue. Who can tell me:

What exact spelling does Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate say in terms of parents, location (hospital), date?

Until those fact known and verified, everything is heresy…

alert, alert, new conspiracy theorist has entered the building.

Way to go yo! Using logic instead of group think mantras. Congrats!!!

Well, we wouldn’t expect you and your kindred to actually get a quote right..as it’s much more convenient to “quote” those who purport to “quote” what was supposedly “said”, instead! Yet, these “quotes” are actually not only misquoted, but misquoted on purpose, in order to skew the truth and gin up the mentally lazy ignorati to a drooling, fevered pitch! For example, among the rest of the faultily repeated garbage you mentioned, Obama never said this was “no longer a Christian nation”..not that it ever was, at that! But, that discussion aside, that alleged “quote” is still NOT what he said! You accuse others of not getting their facts straight, but dollars to donuts, you and your kind have never even watched, listened to or read..in their entirety..in the original..the very speeches you purport to “quote” from! Such ignorance is inexcuseable..but keep up the lawsuits, by all means. You just waste your own money and make yourselves all seem even more ridiculous than we already thought you were..if that were possible!

Hahahahaaa… good one!!

Good grief – all you do is repeat and repeate and repeat, each time promising “FOR THE LAST TIME!” but always, it's another lie. After posting the same rant ten times you've taken to adding extra lines just to make it eat up more screen time. You are truly a disturbed and pathetic individual.

Even more laughable is your claim that “I do research for a living and I have looked at the forensic evidence”. As an actual researcher with a job and publications and everything, I can absolutely spot a lunatic who couldn't get within fifty yards of a scientific journal without a battering ram. And you're one. Plus, the only forensic evidence you've seen is a low-res internet image of a scanned document – and based on that, you're claiming that litereally THOUSANDS of intelligent adults are part of a bizarre treasonous conspiracy to put someone in the white house who you don't like.

I actually do “HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS” that you're a blithering idiot.

You demo commies are stoopid.

You state that Barry was born in “Hawaii”. a supposed “state”. I have never been to this so called “Hawaii” have you? What proof can you offer me that such a place even exists? Just because some web sites have “maps” that show this place is proof of how wide spread this conspiracy is!

wake up people and use some common sense!

I want YOU to think a little, and stop listening to FOX NEWS and Mark Levin. Please. Use your BRAIN and think for yourself!!!

Dead wrong. No one who is licensed has said those documents are forged. Only people who refuse to identity themselves because they acutally have no standing claim it to be a forgery. Well real people who have looked at the photos will tell you the claims of being fraudelent are due to image artificats due to monitor resolution and the scanner. Hence why other photos show the seal, signature and don't show artifacts that would make an idiot claim a forgery has taken place.

The Goverment of Hawaii has said the birth certificate is real. People who went to view it say it is real.

“For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form?”

For starters why do only idiots believe this claim? Do you even know what a 2007 and 2008 COLB form issued by a laserprinter in Hawaii look like?

So by apuzzo's reasoning, neither could he become president, because presumably his parents are italian and we couldn't be certain that he wouldn't make judgements that favor italy instead of the usa…

Obama has a top secret clearance!

Wrong-O OBOT-O! Obama never went through an FBI Security check. I dare you to furnish and independently verifiable documentation backing up your OPINION. P.S. I do research for a living so be sure and have genuine independently verifiable documentation okay?

heresy?? i didn't know this was becoming a religion.

Schism writes:
“Here's a clue to birthers, Hillary Clinton did more oppo research on Obama than Mccain did.

And she found nothing.

Game over, birthers. The longer you stay at this, the more you hurt your own party. Don't you realize this yet? No wonder people don't take republicans seriously anymore. No wonder they have been reduced to being a southern, regional party. All the sane people have left, and it's just the die-hards now.”

Oh, I get it. Because the incompetent Hillary Clinton staffers couldn't find anything, it must not be there !

Same goes for McCain and his staffers. We all see what brilliant geniuses they were in retrospect.

The last election only proved one thing. The Power of the People of New York is far greater than that of any other state, with California being a close second.

All of your information is filtered through the employees of a city that voted 79% for Barack Obama. They are ALL UNION members and they are all Liberal Democrats.

You won't get the truth until we get these people out of the News Stream.

Dave, wonderful article!

[...] McCain and Palin are in on the conspiracy! [...]

Alert! Alert! OBTS who have desperately ignored the forensic evidence in every lame way possible for the last 2 hours remain in the building! Free your mind Linda! Or stay stupid.

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

1) The COLB says Obama was born in Honolulu. COLBs for foreign-born citizens state the country/city they were born in.

3) The fact that the ads were put their by the state is utterly compelling. Are you suggesting the state lied in 1961?

5) McCain was born outside of the United States, in the Panama Canal Zone. That's why it was an issue.

Here ! Let me save you some trouble. “I” googled it for you.

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

What a good woman to raise such a wonderful child.

You are really as dumb as you write. Kenyan prince? For you ignorant Republican ass, Kenya never had a prince, or even a King or Queen for that matter. to get a Kenyan Orginal birth certifcate or Passport, all you you need is Ksh. 8000($10

How do you feel about wasting the taxpayers’ time and money by diddling around with this asinine faux-issue..particularly when government budgets..both state, city and federal..are a bit tight at the moment and the bucks could better be spent on..oh, let’s say..seeing that our kids are better educated..particularly so they don’t fall prey to making ridiculous, unresearched and unsubstantiated comments, once they become adults?

For all you dolts that are still believing he doesn't have a birth certificate, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIjnF8ZR4aw

Yeah, these powerful people are the aliens from the planet where obama was born! It's obvious he's not an earthling. You can't look at those ears and believe he was born on this planet. Without a doubt he was born on Vulcan and Mr Spock was his father, not some kenyan. And that's why he's able to remain so cool and emotionless. Come on people, wake up! He's preparing the earth to be invaded by a coalition of aliens!

Pictures of Obama's Wonderful and caring mother.

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

Hey Kevin Stevens ! Watch this !

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

Why do you hate black people so much? Are you that inferior? You are a sad, pathetic human being.

I did and that's why I actually made the effort to examine the forensic evidence and realized the document Barry proffered is a forgery Now this may be a wild assed guess, but, I'm thinking maybe you didn't. Free your mind OBOT! For God's sake don't you have the mental capacity to at least wonder why several forensics document examiners discovered the COLB Barry put out indicates it was supposedly printed in 2007 but has the 2008 border? They change borders every year to detect, let me guess, FRAUD!!

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

How many President's mothers pose naked for the camera ?

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

How do we know that's not YOUR mother on there? I have a hunch it is…LOL

1 – Umm, what? Where no earth did you come up with that one? This is what happens when stupid people rely on talk radio as their source of information.

2 – It proves that the person in charge of the Vital Statistics and Records for the state of Hawaii has verified and seen the original that you idiots keep barking about. He has seen it and confirmed the information contained in both documents is the same. Just because you want to see it, then fly over to Hawaii and demand to see it yourself. I would imagine they would escort you from the building pretty quick.

3 – Now this is when you know how dumb the birthers really are. If the state of Hawaii gave the birth announcement to the paper, doesn't that give it more credibility than if a family member did it? Or unless you think that the state of Hawaii had advanced knowledge in 1961 that this one child would grow up to be president someday, so they were covering for him in advance.

4 – Ann Durham was a US citizen because she was born in the USA.

5 – Duh, because they found nothing! Don't you get it? If they had found something that they thought they could use against Obama to defeat him for the presidency don't you think they would have used it?

Looks like his mother was a slut. Are we SURE Barack Sr. is his father ?

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

WARNING!! SUBTLE OBOT DEFLECTION ENGAGED AS OF NOW. WHAT EVER YOU DO DON'T GO TO THE FOLLOWING SITES AND READ IN DETAIL THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE(WITH PICS) DOCUMENTING THE OBAMA COLB TO BE A FORGERY.

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Kevin_Stevens writes:

How do we know that's not YOUR mother on there? I have a hunch it is…LOL

It might be, if my name were Barack Obama.

Did you look at the pictures ?

OBOT DEFLECTION TACTIC #389………..

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

You know you've lost the argument when all you can do is post crap like this, right?

So what does this have to do with the birth certificate story? Nothing, it just shows how bankrupt and disgraceful you really are.

This doesn't prove anything, other than you are a sore loser and an idiot.

Barack's Father was ALREADY MARRIED to a woman in Kenya. That makes any marriage to Stanley Ann Dunham, illegal bigamy, and therefore null and void, which makes Barack Obama a certified illegitimate child, otherwise known as a bastard.

His mother is a slut, and he is a bastard. I mean REALLY !

Aren't you glad the media notified you about all of this BEFORE the election ?

Barack's Father was ALREADY MARRIED to a woman in Kenya. That makes any marriage to Stanley Ann Dunham, illegal bigamy, and therefore null and void, which makes Barack Obama a certified illegitimate child, otherwise known as a bastard.

His mother is a slut, and he is a bastard. I mean REALLY !

Aren't you glad the media notified you about all of this BEFORE the election ?

Yep. And she sure do look like your momma…LOL

You can all talk about what you know, and what you think, but I doubt a single one of you knew about what i've shown you today.

If you didn't know about what I have shown you, could there be OTHER things you don't know ?

Actually the burden of proof lies on the Birthers. Since they're still harping on BO not being a legal citizen and was not born in the USA…and they don't consider Hawaii to be the 50th state in the union….The Birthers need to come up with evidence to up back their claims since they're the one always stoking the fire regarding this issue.

What good is someone claiming something to always be, and you have no evidence to back things up with facts or physical evidence such as actual documentation, etc. Just because the Birthers keep saying and repeating their lunacy a thousand times doesn't make it so.

Sure, the hard copy of the COLB is admissible as evidence. But I’d be less suspicious of it being “conclusive evidence” if it were actually ADMITTED as evidence in court. Why has that never happened? What exactly is that document’s chain of custody, anyway? How did Daily Kos and Factcheck get it, for example? Where is it now?

Y’know what else would be conclusive evidence? A certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate! Oh sorry, it was discarded when Hawaii went paperless. Or, wait, no, it was witnessed as genuine by Hawaii’s Director of Health and sealed by order of the Governor. Which is it? I would find CONSISTENT “official statements” more convincing.

Prove it. Simple as that. If you think you know so much, then offer proof to back up your idiot assertions.

Oh lookee it's Diogenes resorting to OBOT deflection tactic #235………..And still ignoring the forensic evidence. Remember sheep dudes and dudettes, I have all day to point out your consistent refusal to acknowledge or examine the forensic evidence.

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Sore losers have been known to call the winning side multiple names to cope with their loss and the crushing psychological impact it can have.

But it doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day, they are sore loser crybabies stewing in their own soiled diapers.

There is evidence it's a fraud. I have posted it. Your claiming it does not exist does not make it so. Reject selective logic dude. It makes you look stupid and intransigent.

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Judging from the posts I see here, Birthers better hope there is never an IQ test or a sanity test for citizenship.

Greg writes:
“Oh lookee it's Diogenes resorting to OBOT deflection tactic #235………..And still ignoring the forensic evidence. Remember sheep dudes and dudettes, I have all day to point out your consistent refusal to acknowledge or examine the forensic evidence.”

Chill out dude. I think i'm on YOUR side.

I think Obama is intentionally refusing to release his birth certificate, but I think his reasons are that it contains embarrassing information, not necessarily disqualifying information.

stfu2009 writes:
“Actually the burden of proof lies on the Birthers. Since they're still harping on BO not being a legal citizen and was not born in the USA…and they don't consider Hawaii to be the 50th state in the union….The Birthers need to come up with evidence to up back their claims since they're the one always stoking the fire regarding this issue.

What good is someone claiming something to always be, and you have no evidence to back things up with facts or physical evidence such as actual documentation, etc. Just because the Birthers keep saying and repeating their lunacy a thousand times doesn't make it so.”

Don't say there is NO evidence. There is SOME evidence. It may be weak and circumstantial, but it does exist. Like this for example.

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

“Whoa, folks we have a live, thinking rational being amongst us! ” Yes, Greg and it's not you.

don't worry now. sssshhhhhhhh. stay calm. everything is going to be alright.
The guys in white coats are your door, Greg. They're coming in. They've got the nice white jacket to wear. It will make you feel all safe and warm. don't you worry now.
they probably need to let your psych doc know to check your blood pressure. you're gonna burst a blood vessel if you don't calm down.
Nice padded room, snug jacket, quiet, calm…..

If these birthers keep it up, the Republicans will never win another major election…

Birthers…I want to thank you.

A heartfelt thank for your tremendous, ongoing efforts to make republicans look like a bunch of know-nothing, racist nutcases. Thank you for your unwavering devotion to this idiotic issue despite the mountain of contradictory facts thrown in your face every day. Thank you for attacking the moderates and thinking, rational people in your party, and for driving them to run away from your party, screaming in horror, at lightning speed. Thank you for being so completely delusional that you refuse to acknowledge that President Obama is sitting in the White House running the Unites States. Thank you for ignoring all the real issues going on in the USA right now. Thank you.

Please do keep all this insanity going until we have successfully passed health care reform, the energy bill, education reform, and have successfully brought a case challenging bans on gay marriage to the Supreme Court. Please stay the course. It may be difficult, but you can do it! Please keep this up at least through 2010. We really appreciate you embarrassing and alienating decent republican candidates and voters, inserting a huge wedge in your party, keeping your money and focus on this issue while ignoring the mid-term elections altogether. Thank you. Thank you.

We plan to do so much in the coming months, and then we plan to gain more House and Senate seats and expand our complete control of the entire government in 2010! Your help in this endeavor is very much appreciated.

Thank you birthers, thank you.

Maybe you all really ARE true patriots after all?
Thank you for helping us take the country back.

Greg, there is no forensic evidence to examine. All you do is cut and paste the same nonsense.

Name one credible analyst who has seen the birth certificate up close and personal, not from a computer screen.

What? You cannot name one? Gee, I can't imagine why?

Easy enough. Did you look at the pictures and the accompanying research ?

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

That ought to cover the “Slut” aspect of it. As for the “Bastard” part, i'll look up some references if you want.

Nice try–Obama and his six names are not just about his birth certificate. get caught up like the average informed citizen..the media are gutless and so are Rep and Dems who just want to keep their jobs so they go along with EVIL

Wow, some of these posters here are the biggest crackpots I've seen anywhere yet, absolutely incredible. Sure, this and this was on so and so's blog so it MUST be true. No one EVER lies on the internet, LOL!

The fact remains that Obama's mother was a U.S. citizen, no matter where he was born. If she is a U.S. citizen, then he is also a “natural born” U.S. citizen. Jeez. Go back up on the roof people and add another layer of tin foil to your hats. I think all that's coming through now is static.

Why thank you.

Oh lookee another OBOT! This is deflection tactic #392 in the effort to ignore and discourage people from looking at or even acknowledging the forensic evidence. Good job OBOT! Unfortunately not all of us have surrendered our brains to the group think Obama cult yet. We still like independently verifiable facts. And when pictures are included to show the obvious fraud well hey it can't get much better than that. So OBOT what will you do, come back with more deflection crap or do something bold like free your mind from the group think tactics and actually read the detailed evidence by professional document examiners who have found serious discrepancies in Obama's COLB compared to COLB's other Hawaiian resident's allowed to be shown for comparison?

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

There are couple things that happen:

1. Wingnuts make claims and file lawsuits
2. Elected leaders of wingnuts, who should do the right thing because they know the truth, do not distance themselves away from the wingnuts fueling more wingnuttery.
3. Media bemoan the wingnuttery on primetime, giving rise to more wingnuttery.

What needs to happen is

1. Lawsuits dismissed with heavy fines for wasting valuable court times
2. Media skewering the elected leaders who encourage this nonsense by deliberately keeping quiet hoping to stoke the flames more. Ridicule them publicly often until they stop supporting the wingnuts.

Won't matter. If we leave the Democrats alone, there won't be any need for any more elections. We'll just do it like they do it in Iran and Venezuela.

In case anyone trusts Weigel's reporting, see Dave Weigel lie through his teeth on the Rachel Maddow show.

Amen to that.

Your not on my side if you don't examine the forensic evidence and declare that it shows a clear pattern of forgery and fraud which is a crime and far more serious than supposed embarrassment. Just sayin… Fair enough?

Again, birthers, THANK YOU!
My faith is restored that it will be a long, long, long time before the republican party ever rebuilds itself.

I dedicate this one to all of you…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CjbcqhGyU

And that would make a difference because? I'm sorry, but you are all idiots. And, no, you are certainly not patriots. If anything, you birthers are subversives and anarchists.

Your padded room is ready as well. better yet, you and greg can bounce off the walls together.

Thank you, Diogenes, thank you!

Please keep up the birther efforts!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CjbcqhGyU

Will you two stop blathering about that Posted picture of a COLB ? It's a freakin computer printout for crying out loud ! Claiming that a computer printout is faked is just silly. You can make a computer printout say anything you want, and you can CLAIM it's your birth certificate.

It's obviously not what the Doctor Signed back in 1961, so the only thing it proves is that someone knows how to use a computer.

Fail. Again and again, you fail, child.

Let me make a simple point. Can a rational person really believe that anyone running for the presidency has not been scrutinized by the US government and all of it's appropriate/concerned agencies? NSA, DOD, CIA, FBI, etc, etc. Do you really think a person who is not a citizen would not be found out when trying to run for office. You are an utter fool if you think this man is not a citizen.

Greg, THANK YOU!

Your efforts are not going unnoticed. Is there a republican candidate's town hall in your area where you can raise this issue? Maybe lead a rousing rendition of The Star Spangled Banner after you do not get the answer you want? Please, please keep up the efforts!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CjbcqhGyU

Oh lookee it's OBOT Lynne back to try and make someone who actually places value in documented verifiable photographic evidence rather than group think bullshit as being nutty.

You still are ignoring that evidence aren't you Lynne. What too deep for your programmed mind? Figures you would have no problem with a 2007 document having the 2008 border on it.

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

“You don’t get a certificate of live birth from a state if you weren’t born there.”

In FL, where you were born: No, you can’t. In WI, where I was born: No you can’t. But in Hawaii? If a family member who is a resident makes the request: Yes, you can!

He released it, and everyone with a brain understood it was legit. Only the dumbest people in American doubt it, and they never once took a second to think about all the facts in this case and how unrealistic their paranoid conspiracy truly is.

But don't let me prevent you from being rational.

Hey, let me know how your next Tea Party is, okay? There's nothing more funny that seeing a group of out of shape, bitter old white men holding signs that read “Wher iz da berf curtifecut?”

It is, and always has been, my understanding that a “Natural-Born Citizen” must have BOTH parents as American Citizens. One doesn't count.

Earlier I posted an excerpt from the First Congress, Session II, March 26, 1790, which stated that the father HAD to be an American citizen, regardless of what the mother was.

For you history buffs out there, you know women ALWAYS had the same legal status as men since the founding of our country. ( no they didn't.)

And I dedicate THIS to you !

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

Can a rational person not realize that BHO has been given a pass in nearly everything? The MSM lies for him, sockpuppets rush to his defense, and on and on.

If you want to prove your point, get officials on record to state exactly what sort of background checks they did on him and file FOIA requests. Otherwise, you're just engaging in a logical fallacy.

It's all in your fantasies Greg. Remember what the doctor told you? You have to take your meds or the voices won't stop talking to you. Shhhhhhh….everything will be okay. The comfort of that nice jacket will make you feel safe again. Shhhhhh…….there, there.

Thank you. Please find a republican candidate's town hall meeting where you can publicly and loudly raise this issue soon! I suggest leading a rendition of The Battle Hymn of the Republic (ironic and funny choice if you know the history, but, when has that ever stopped a birther? Go for the maximum entertainment value!) when you do not get the answer you want from the candidate.

Thank you, birther, thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CjbcqhGyU

It's the official copy from the state of Hawaii, not just some randomly generated piece of paper. Hawaii issues them to all citizens now. So your beef is really with the state of Hawaii then, right? Why don't you fly on over there and complain very loudly. I am sure you'd have tons of support there.

Instead of spending millions of dollars to fight this, why can't Barry spend $10 for an official copy? That would end it all right there.

And OBOT I want to thank you for you long winded post of superior deflection which continues to ignore and refuses to acknowledged and or examine the forensic evidence. Unfortunately for you, only the foolish are fooled by the OBOTS deception. As well, fortunately for you, only stupid people don't know they are stupid. You can either choose to enlighten your mind by risking exposing it to the forensic evidence or you can resist allowing yourself to informed. Doing the latter does protect you from having to admit to being wrong like you have always done throughout your life. Sad dude……………

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

“A survey of the lawsuits filed against Obama reveals a reliance on widely debunked rumors, bogus stories sourced back to web sites, affidavits from “experts” who refuse to provide credentials or even their real names, and frequent and blatant misunderstandings of basic constitutional law. The dismissal of “birther” lawsuits has allowed conspiracy theorists to believe that the information in those suits is accurate–a belief that manifests itself in the emails, phone calls, and town hall meeting rants that have pushed the theories into the mainstream media and the halls of Congress.” – David Weigel

Gee, doesn't that quote just encapsulate everything about ALL the birther comments on this website, as well?

Haha, what a country! You elect a president, and AFTERWARDS you want to check if he's actually a citizien??! You can''t be serious! Shouldn't you've checked that before?!
So in the USA someone can become president but people are not sure if he's american…that's ridiculous.
If there had been any doubt, it would've come out before the election. Afterwards it looks nothing but stupid.
And they even have a name: “birthers”, lol!!
Reps are really getting more stupid every day.

Yes, Obama has been given a pass due to his extensive use of the Jedi Mind trick. You see, throughout his whole life, Obama is a secret Jedi Master with amazing powers. He can make entire state governments cater to his every will and whim, just by thinking about it.

He can also fool major Ivy League colleges, state Senates, the United States Senate, all just by thinking his magic thoughts.

Look People Let us get about the real problems of America the Beautiful. This backbiting and whining will ge tus no where. It takes energy and time with NO postive results. Stop the BS and lets put American back to Virtues. Values, Principals and morality and help us become a unified nation. This will only end up in more division and haterid. Let us unify for our grand country. God save us from ourselves!! Donald Decker

Birthers…I want to thank you.

A heartfelt thank for your tremendous, ongoing efforts to make republicans look like a bunch of know-nothing, racist nutcases. Thank you for your unwavering devotion to this idiotic issue despite the mountain of contradictory facts thrown in your face every day. Thank you for attacking the moderates and thinking, rational people in your party, and for driving them to run away from your party, screaming in horror, at lightning speed. Thank you for being so completely delusional that you refuse to acknowledge that President Obama is sitting in the White House running the United States. Thank you for ignoring all the real issues going on in the USA right now. Thank you.

Please do keep all this insanity going until we have successfully passed health care reform, the energy bill, education reform, and have successfully brought a case challenging bans on gay marriage to the Supreme Court. Please stay the course. It may be difficult, but you can do it! Please keep this up at least through 2010. We really appreciate you embarrassing and alienating decent republican candidates and voters, inserting a huge wedge in your party, keeping your money and focus on this issue while ignoring the mid-term elections altogether. Thank you. Thank you.

We plan to do so much in the coming months, and then we plan to gain more House and Senate seats and expand our complete control of the entire government in 2010! Your help in this endeavor is very much appreciated.

Thank you birthers, thank you.

Maybe you all really ARE true patriots after all?
Thank you for helping us take the country back.

Please find a republican candidate's town hall meeting near you and raise this issue LOUDLY. I suggest then leading a rousing rendition of the Battle Hymn of the Republic when you do not get the answer you want!

Thank you.

You rely to heavily on the competence of Government Officials. Do you KNOW of any project they ever did competently ? How did that 9 trillion dollar war on poverty work out ?

Apparently, all you have to do to run for office is attest that you are an American Citizen. It only requires acceptance by a state official to get your foot in the door, thereafter everyone assumes it's valid.

The requirements for running for any office EXCEPT the Presidency are that you be an American Citizen. Obama is clearly that, though whether he is in fact considered to be a “Natural-Born Citizen” has in fact not yet been demonstrated, and wasn't required until he decided to run for President. Who's duty is it to check his credentials ?

The State Election board ? The State Attorney General ? Of Every State ?

Illinois certified him. The other states merely accepted it is valid through the courtesy of reciprocity.

Read the article, Jon. In fact read anything but the back of a sugar packet.

Then come back here and post proof that Obama is spending ANY sum of money to fight this. David Weigel's own articles explain that the cases are all tossed out as frivolous or lacking standing. That means President Obama doesn't have to do anything to defend the suits.

It would be interesting to know what YOUR middle school transcript was.

And, Florida Christian alert — “that would end it all right there” — can you work that line into a new post for us, Florida?

Who wouldn't want a lawyer/dentist named Oily Titz to work on the case?

Again, THANK YOU!
My faith is restored that it will be a long, long, long time before the republican party ever rebuilds itself.

Please send that link to everyone you know, especially your Republican Reps and Senators! Encourage them to send it to others, please!

I dedicate this one to you again…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CjbcqhGyU

that post is a thing of beauty.

Opinions of a columnist. I would be interested in a JUDGE'S opinion. Too bad we can't get one. Apparently ordinary Natural-born American citizens aren't allowed to question the credentials of our leader. We don't have standing.

Fortunately, Members of the Armed forces do, and it appears that there are several willing to go to court to try and get the court to rule on Obama's Legal status as a “Natural-Born Citizen.”

Unfortunately, Potter's so-called investigation only serves to highlight already unanswered questions about 0bama's place of birth.

Potter said “To the extent that we could,..” meaning he relied on the word of 0bama and his supporters that he was born in Hawai'i but Potter never saw 0bama's OFFICIAL long form “Birth Certificate” with his own eyes. So in a court of law Potter's opinion means squat.

The Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) printed on June 6, 2007 merely refers to the probable existence of an ORIGINAL long form Birth Certificate. During a Lou Dobbs exchange on the topic recent information came to light that 0bama's ORIGINAL long form Birth Certificate was DISCARDED eight (8) years ago when Hawai'i went electronic. So, any Hawai'ian official claiming to have seen the Birth Certificate or has it locked away safely in their office or have handled it are either lying or they are lying.

Furthermore, if 0bama obtained the Certificate of Live Birth on June 6, 2007 then what Official document did he use to obtain an Illinois driver's license and a US passport to travel abroad when a Birth Certificate, as opposed to a COLB, is required to obtain both?

Rep John Campbell is going about this the right way with the so-called “Birther Bill”. A resolution requiring nominees present an OFFICIAL long form “Birth Certificate” is the only way to legally and OFFICIALLY get to the bottom of this controversy.

“In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.”
- Thomas Jefferson

I am not ignoring your issues, I am encouraging you to pursue them.

Thank you. Please find a republican candidate's town hall meeting where you can publicly and loudly raise this issue soon! I suggest leading a rendition of The Battle Hymn of the Republic (ironic and funny choice if you know the history, but, when has that ever stopped a birther? Go for the maximum entertainment value!) when you do not get the answer you want from the candidate.

Thank you, birther, thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CjbcqhGyU

Why can't we see his birth certificatwe if its real. Mine is available as is every citizens of the United States. I hate being lied too. My President would respect and understand that; thats what we vote for “TRUST” .

Your FAIL will be met by only more FAIL, crazy ass birther.

You understand wrongly. If you are born in the United States, you are a citizen even if BOTH your parents are non-citizens.

You have to wonder why BHO supporters are just so darn eager to sweep all of this under the rug. They're really going full court press on this, aren't they? An endless parade of sockpuppets from the HuffPost is filling the comments with content-free garbage. If there's nothing to this story, why are they going all-out to smear and lie? Are they afraid of something?

If anyone wants to do something about this, simply tell the truth in as many forums – online and offline – as you can. Avoid obscure theories or things you can't prove. Unless you can definitively prove that BHO was born in Kenya, don't say it.

Just concentrate on the facts of the matter, and use that to discredit hacks like Weigel but more importantly to discredit the MSM. For the facts of this matter – no speculation, no wild theories – see my exhaustive coverage of this issue. Send that link to your friends and use it as a guide to show how MSM reporters are lying. Let's get the truth out there and have an impact on the careers of those who've lied about this.

We wanted it verified BEFORE the election. Every legal maneuver was used to block confirmation, and the media refused to even notify the American people that it was a concern.

The Name “Birthers” is a derogatory term which is applied to people who want proof of “Natural Born Citizen” status by people who hate them anyway. It is intended to malign these people in the manner that Polish jokes spread by the Nazis did during world war II.

It's is effectively, Enemy propaganda by Modern Nazional Sozialists.

So if he was a citizen why did he have to forge his COLB DUH!! Congratulations you really are dumber than a rock!!

Thank you. Please find a republican candidate's town hall meeting where you can publicly and loudly raise this issue soon! I suggest leading a rendition of The Battle Hymn of the Republic (ironic and funny choice if you know the history, but, when has that ever stopped a birther? Go for the maximum entertainment value!) when you do not get the answer you want from the candidate.

Thank you, birther, thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CjbcqhGyU

Natural-Born is Nationality from Natural Law. It is determined by the father at birth, from which all rights of birth and inheritance flow. Barack Obama’s father was a Kenyan British colonial. Read Vatttel’s Law of Nations.

Natural-Born Citizen, A person born within the jurisdiction of a national government.
Black’s Law Dictionary, 17th Ed. (1999)

Naturalized-Citizen, A foreign born [or born of foreign parentage] who attains citizenship by law. Black’s, 17th Ed (1999)

The legislative definition of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” was defined as “not owing allegiance to any other.” In 1866, Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes read: “All persons born in the United States and NOT SUBJECT to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.”

Rep. Bingham, commenting on Section 1992, said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parentS (plural) NOT OWING allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen”.

Senator Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee when the 14th Amendment was written said,
“… ‘all persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens’… that means ‘subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof’.’ What do we mean by ‘complete jurisdiction thereof’? NOT OWING allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.”

Emerich de Vattel was a historic writer on the law, from whom the framers drew their understanding. Following is from his Law of Nations.

§ 212. Citizens and natives.

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of PARENTS who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. (NOTE THE PLURAL- TWO PARENTS who are citizens.)

Statutes covering foreign birth, or birth to a foreigner, are Naturalization laws as they provide for the revocation of that alien nationality. Statutes cannot create or redefine Natural-Born, an immutable condition occurring from two U.S. citizen parents. http://paralegalnm.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/barack-hussein-obama-a-natural-born-subject-of-great-britain/

You mean like tracking and censoring reporters, commissioning hit squads, rebuking the UN, committing war crimes, and smelling like poop?

OH WAIT THAT WAS THE LAST TEN YEARS.

Where's the birth certificate? I'm glad you're so concerned about this one, but it sucks you sat it out when we were wondering WHERE THE WMD'S ARE. OH YEAH THAT ONE.

Jon,

Obama is not “spending millions” of dollars on fighting this. Why do you believe every lie that you read from whacko righties?

Thank you. Please find a republican candidate's town hall meeting where you can publicly and loudly raise this issue soon! I suggest leading a rendition of The Battle Hymn of the Republic (ironic and funny choice if you know the history, but, when has that ever stopped a birther? Go for the maximum entertainment value!) when you do not get the answer you want from the candidate.

Thank you, birther, thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CjbcqhGyU

Nothing will shut these birther racists up.

Interesting development out of CNN.
It seems that the State of Hawaii destroyed the original in 2001 when it recorded the data & went paperless. You can't get more than the Certification of Live Birth, because the certification is all they CAN produce.

Bwahahahahahahaha.

The nutjobs now are toast. They'll keep screaming forever!

The only liar here is you, crazy ass birther.

Hey, did you LOOK at the photographs ? It won't hurt you to take a look. There are only THREE of them. All you could lose is your smug assurance.

Barry shouldn't need to spend $10 or $20 for a new one when he's already presented his original birth certificate twice in two years, one to the U.S. State Department's liking and the second for factcheck.org to see and examine in person in Hawaii which checked out legitimate people. This is just an attempt by racist goons who still can't get over the fact a black man is President of the United States. This is an attempt to spew all their years of hate and venom at a man who's clearly more an American citizen than these loons are.

No Paul,

That will feed into their conspiracy lemmings.

It is, and always has been, my understanding

Your understanding is, and always has been, wrong. Crazy ass birther.

Thank you. Please find a republican candidate's town hall meeting where you can publicly and loudly raise this issue soon! I suggest leading a rendition of The Battle Hymn of the Republic (ironic and funny choice if you know the history, but, when has that ever stopped a birther? Go for the maximum entertainment value!) when you do not get the answer you want from the candidate.

Thank you, birther, thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CjbcqhGyU

Do the birthers realize that even if he was born in Kenya it would not disqualify him? His mother was an American born citizen. It would take Congress about two days to life the techicality that the birthers claim on this.

Oh, so it doesn't EXIST then ? So why are they telling us that we can't see what DOES exist?

Maybe Naked Pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham ?

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

Let's be honest. This entire birther thing is seeded in racisim. This is a group of epopel that do not liek the fact that a black man is president of the USA. Yes Alan Keyes is a racist. He hates black people, always has.

Obviously. He has an American mother shown in the following pictures.

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

Obviously. He has an American mother shown in the following pictures.

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

Here's your proof that Obama is an alien:

http://www.impactlab.com/2009/05/11/is-obama-th…

Hey dipshit. Do a simple search. He has lawyers on each case. Lawyers cost money.

According to Federal Election Commission records, Obama For America paid $688,316.42 to international law firm Perkins Coie between January and March 2009.

Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie – top lawyer for Obama, Obama's presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee and Obama's Organizing for America – is the same Washington, D.C., lawyer defending President Obama in lawsuits challenging his eligibility to be president.

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2009/Q1/C00431445…

As for the personal attack about my transcripts, I have a Master's degree and I guarantee you I make two to three times as much as you. How about you? Did you even finish high school? Or are you living off my tax money using the internet at the library?

Florida? Who said anything about Florida?

Some people hate white people, like this very white person in these pictures.

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

I WILL NOT LOWER MYSELF TO READ THIS CRAPE AGAIN. WHAT HURTS THE MOST IS THE DEGENERATE PEOPLE WHO LOWER THEMSELVES TO WRITE AND ARGUE WITH NO HELPFUL OR POSITIVE RESULTS FOR ANYONE INCLUDING THE WONDERFUL COUNTRY THEIR IGNORANCE NOW SIGNIFIES. DON DECKER

Do the birthers have any idea how much money they are wasting on this? How much money do you think Alan Keyes is raising and paying himself over this? He paid himself a 100 K salary from his campaign when he was running for president. I am willing to wager that most birthers think WWE wrestling is real.

And what a FINE mother he has !

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

They are wasting exactly 1.8 trillion dollars. No wait, that's Obama doing that.

I don't know. Whatever it is, it's nothing compared to the guy wasting 1.8 trillion dollars.

He has to pay his lawyers to defend these frivolus cases. Lawyers don't work for free.

The birther movement grows like weeds in a grassy null.

Uh, wow, do you really not know that what he provided WAS the “official” copy? Not the Right-wingnut “official” copy, of course – there is no such thing. But the real world “official” copy – that has been provided AND verified – again, not verified by the right-wingnutosphere, it was verified in the real world.

Why should he do it again for a bunch of conspiracy nuts? He's already done everything required of him, and now, he's just a tad busy. Why should he do anything more to give credence to idiots who won't believe it anyway? And why in the world would you think it would end with that?

What, in the behavior of the birthers, would lead you to think they would suddenly give up and go away when presented with exactly the same facts already available?

These are people who think Obama was born in Kenya – during the Mau Mau rebellion, by the way, a time when it would have been life-threatening for Obama's mother to even be in Kenya, let alone have a mixed-race baby there, then he was snuck out of Kenya, then snuck into the US, where citizenship papers and newspaper articles were forged.

Then he was taken to Indonesia, where as a 5 or 6 yr old, he renounced his US citizenship and became a practicing Muslim, which he hid by pretending to be a Christian for a couple of decades. This is what these whack-jobs believe.

I know if I wanted to sneak into the White House, that's how I would do it.

And you really think providing any kind of form now would make any difference to the people willing to believe such irrational nonsense?
Dude, get a grip.

Hey David Weigel ! Get a clue. Do an investigative report on how THESE pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham wound up on the internet !

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

Where are all you Shrill defenders of the President's honor now ? Must have looked at the pictures.

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

Where are all you Shrill defenders of the President's honor now ? Must have looked at the pictures.

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

Yeah, and the military revoked that guy's notice to deploy due to the fact that they (the military) don't believe he's legit WITHOUT a trial. This sets a precedent that NO ONE will be deployed if they question Barry's status. It's a sad day when the military doesn't even have faith in their leader.

Yeah, and the military revoked that guy's notice to deploy due to the fact that they (the military) don't believe he's legit WITHOUT a trial. This sets a precedent that NO ONE will be deployed if they question Barry's status. It's a sad day when the military doesn't even have faith in their leader.

[...] actively followed the lawsuits filed during the election season and deemed they had no merit, according to the Washington [...]

Yea but you can still examine the photographic copy Obama had uploaded to Daily Kos and spot that it was a blatant forgery. For 3 hours now I have posted clear evidence that is of the kind admissible in a court of law to prove a document a forgery and every single Obot since then has refused to acknowledge, examine, disprove the reports by several forensic document examiners. OBOTS=Deaf, dumb. and blind.

i did some investigating on ann dunham and found a old small town news paper article (spirit of jefferson farms advocate)WV (sameSS#)– ann dunhams baby shower– what caught my eye was the peoples names that was there.. the people listed in the article has serious ties to obama, and DeRito has alot.. WTF is going on .. i traced ann dunham to sierra club in dallas tx.. just investigate the peoples names listed in this article and it will blow your mind.. something is seriously wrong here…

http://www.footnote.com/document/53347420/phyll…

pLEASE FIND SOMETHING MOD POSITIVE VALUE TO TALK OR ARGUE ABOUT. tRY TO FIND A CHILD IN NEED OR GO HELP YOUR PARENTS OR SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR OUR GRAND USA.. YOU ALL WILL HERE ABOUT ME SOON. I TRULY CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA WHO ARE CALLED BY MANY NAMES RICH AND POOR,ALL HAVE PROBLEMS GOD BLESS. DECKER GO DO SOMETHING GOOD YOU WILL BE REWARDED

Wrong. He was a reservist with the right to decline deployment….so the Army allowed him to decline.

[...] – McCain Campaign Investigated, Dismissed Obama Citizenship Rumors Quite a revelation by David Weigel in a truly excellent article: While they ruled out any chance of the ‘birther’ lawsuits holding [...]

1.2 trillion dollars of the number you quote was the debt the last year Bush was in office. Are you going to blame Obama for that as well? Obama is responsible for 600 billion of it. Amazing how the rising debt was of little or no interest until a democrat came into office. What a hypocritical tool you are.

Yes, most certainly, it's all been one big conspiracy since he's been BORN! Thousands and thousands of people the world over have been giving him a pass and covering up for him since his mother (a U.S. citizen, that itself making him a “natural born” U.S. citizen) gave birth to him, just waiting for him to become U.S. President — since that is sooo easy to achieve — so they could launch their evil plan.

Seriously, are you not listening to what is coming out of your mouth? Wherever you're from, do they actually let you walk around freely without a straight jacket on? I suppose they must — you're typing on a computer. Amazing that they let you do that.

You are mistaken. The military revoked the officer's orders because they think he is nuts. The guy, who is in the reserves, was also fired from his DOD job. So, no, the military does have faith in their leader – it's the Birthers that scare them.

A “Certification of Live Birth” has NO signatures and is computer generated. This doesn't not classify as a birth certificate. A birth certificate, whatever it may be called, must have signatures and a notary seal.

*In 2001 – the state of Hawaii Health Department went paperless.*Paper documents were discarded*The official record of Obama’s birth is now an official ELECTRONIC record Janice Okubo, spokeswoman for the Health Department told the Honolulu Star Bulletin, “At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting,” she said.

They were scanned. Moron. Almost all states do that now. Look it up. It is not hard to understand.

WHAT A SORRY LOT.PLEASE DO NOT CALL YOURSELVES TRUE AMERICANS. IT WOULD BE MORE DECEITFUL YOU PEOPLE ARE TEH CAUSE OF DESENT WITH NOTHING GOOD TO OFFER..DON GET A LIFE OF SOMETHING GOOD

I took a look. They want you to buy the pages. Can you be more specific as to what you used as a search. “Ann Dunham” didn't work so well.

I think the answer to birthers is simple: Show me Barack Obama’s non existent Kenyan birth certificate. (Since there isn’t one, that should take some doing.)

Any one who disputes Obama’s birth, and is unwilling to accept the clear evidence is simply angry because we have a black man. Folks, this is called R A C I S M! Racists are those who simply ascribe to one’s skin color positions of importance (if it is theirs) or disadvantage (if it is different.)

Those of you who think Obama is not an American…too bad. You lost. Now, shut up!

Actually, I think this “Birther” thing is great. It exposes the hardcore racists for what they are. To those fools who think there may be truth to it–don't you think John McCain, who would have done just about anything for the most powerful position in the world, would have exposed Obama if he had proof that he is not a citizen? Are you that stupid?

It WAS verified before the election. No amount of foot stomping by delusional whiners changes that.

You're like toddlers, thinking if you close your eyes and pretend not to see something, it doesn't exist. So you stomp your little feet and throw your little tantrums and demand to see proof – and then refuse to open your eyes and see what's in front of you.

Of course, you'd have to admit you were wrong then, and we all know that isn't going to happen.

And that really is what it's all about – the lengths you guys will go to, the lies you will tell, the claims you will make – all so you don't have to admit you were wrong.

You'd rather stay blind and enraged. How's that working for you?

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

You birthers are just as looney as the people who said that George Bush and Dick Cheney were behind 9/11. And just like those loons where were just digging for anything to justify their hate for Bush, you guys are just digging for anything to justify your hate for Obama. It's silly.

Wow, you don't get a chance to communicate with an actual dirtbag every day. Did you find those old black and white nudie shots in mommy's attic?

Time to shower up now. And it's Friday, so brush your teeth.

What the hell is Obama hiding??

I mean, he could just have one press conference that would take a few minutes showing his actual birth certificate and put all speculation to rest. He could also release the info on his college records and who he got funding from to pay for his education (since he didn't have the money to pay for it).

Obama could end all speculation tomorrow afternoon if he had nothing to hide, but he hasn't. So…………………seems like he has something to hide here.

So what, you think John McCain would have passed on the opportunity to prove Obama is not a citizen? Maybe he just didn't have the resources to find you–the one who knows? Get a life.

GREG, NOTHING PERSONAL BUT ARE YOU THE AUTHORITY AND McCAIN AND GREW TEH IDIOTS. I DON'T THINK SO GO DO SOMETHING TO HELP SOMEONE,MAN WOMEN OR CHILD. THE BEST TO YOU BUT GET REAL THANS ANS GOD BLESS YOU!

It also exposes the OBOTS as the real sheep since they fight so hard in attempting to dissuade people as well as each other from looking at the forensic evidence and making up their own minds about whether Obama's COLB was forged or not. Far better to let the government and OBOTS to do your thinking(oxymoron) for you………………..

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

So that woman in those old black and white pictures hates white people? How do you know all this stuff? Oh, the voices tell you……

Um, I know how distressing truth is to you, but, too bad – you HAVE gotten a judge's opinion – several, in fact. Everytime you nuts try to get a case against Obama on this kind of crap, it gets thrown out of court.

I know you guys aren't too bright, but when a case is thrown out of court, it isn't the janitor who throws it out, it's the judge. That's your judges' opinions – that the cases are so without merit that the courts – not just one court, and not just one judge – will not hear them.

Get it? Even judges think you guys are full of it – you have NO cases worth hearing.

Rather than wonder about what McCain did or did not do why not abandon selective logic and allow yourself to look at the forensic evidence in the reports that have been posted?

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

What a bunch of SORE LOSERS

Birthers…I want to thank you.

A heartfelt thank for your tremendous, ongoing efforts to make republicans look like a bunch of know-nothing, racist nutcases. Thank you for your unwavering devotion to this idiotic issue despite the mountain of contradictory facts thrown in your face every day. Thank you for attacking the moderates and thinking, rational people in your party, and for driving them to run away from your party, screaming in horror, at lightning speed. Thank you for being so completely delusional that you refuse to acknowledge that President Obama is sitting in the White House running the United States. Thank you for ignoring all the real issues going on in the USA right now. Thank you.

Please do keep all this insanity going until we have successfully passed health care reform, the energy bill, education reform, and have successfully brought a case challenging bans on gay marriage to the Supreme Court. Please stay the course. It may be difficult, but you can do it! Please keep this up at least through 2010. We really appreciate you embarrassing and alienating decent republican candidates and voters, inserting a huge wedge in your party, keeping your money and focus on this issue while ignoring the mid-term elections altogether. Thank you. Thank you.

We plan to do so much in the coming months, and then we plan to gain more House and Senate seats and expand our complete control of the entire government in 2010! Your help in this endeavor is very much appreciated.

Thank you birthers, thank you.

Maybe you all really ARE true patriots after all?
Thank you for helping us take the country back.

Please find a republican candidate's town hall meeting near you and raise this issue LOUDLY. I suggest then leading a rousing rendition of the Battle Hymn of the Republic when you do not get the answer you want!

Thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-x2OxWd4YY

Dude, give the little fella a rest. If you keep choking it, no blood can get into your head for that awesome thinking you're so good at and whatnot. You're gonna hurt yourself looking at those pictures.

Hey ! You forgot to take your PICTURES with you !

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

Thank you. Please find a republican candidate's town hall meeting where you can publicly and loudly raise this issue soon! I suggest leading a rendition of The Battle Hymn of the Republic (ironic and funny choice if you know the history, but, when has that ever stopped a birther? Go for the maximum entertainment value!) when you do not get the answer you want from the candidate.

Thank you, birther, thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CjbcqhGyU

What makes you the authority on what I do for people? Since when did trying to wake people up to the lies they have swallowed fall under the category of not being helpful. Shame on that Paul Revere!!!

Hmmm, why would that be? I'm going to suggest that maybe President Obama is just a little bit too busy to come to your doorstep and physically hand it to you. Do you think that might have anything to do with it?

BTW, would you have asked the same thing of McCain if he'd been elected? You realize he was born in the Panama Canal Zone, right? But his parents were U.S. citizens, therefore, he is too. Same with Obama. His mother was a U.S. citizen, so no matter WHERE he was born he is a “natural born” U.S. citizen as well. Get it?

Sweep it under the rug? Uh, your brow ridge is showing and your back needs a shave, brains.

Don't trust what we say. Trust what your eyes tell you. EXAMINE the pictures closely. Notice the Upper Left tooth askew in the picture ? Notice that regular pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham also have an upper left tooth askew.

Make up your own mind whether they are real or not.

Thank you. Please find a republican candidate's town hall meeting where you can publicly and loudly raise this issue soon! I suggest leading a rendition of The Battle Hymn of the Republic (ironic and funny choice if you know the history, but, when has that ever stopped a birther? Go for the maximum entertainment value!) when you do not get the answer you want from the candidate.

Please also forward those photos to all of your republican representatives and encourage them to forward the photos to every person they know! Including the press!

Thank you, birther, thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CjbcqhGyU

Hey, Check out the president's mother when she was young !

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

Go on line and look at it, genius.

And quit telling people you're a US citizen. It's embarrassing.

Thank you. Please find a republican candidate's town hall meeting where you can publicly and loudly raise this issue soon! I suggest leading a rendition of The Battle Hymn of the Republic (ironic and funny choice if you know the history, but, when has that ever stopped a birther? Go for the maximum entertainment value!) when you do not get the answer you want from the candidate.

Thank you, birther, thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CjbcqhGyU

How do you know that he still has the original? Also, it's not like he can obtain a long or short from from Hawaii because they discarded all paper documents back in 2001.

And you OBOTS are bending over backward with lame excuse after lame excuse to discourage and rationalize not having to acknowledge or examine the forensic evidence by experts.

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Yeah, he couldn't find stuff like this :

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

Thank you. Please find a republican candidate's town hall meeting where you can publicly and loudly raise this issue soon! I suggest leading a rendition of The Battle Hymn of the Republic (ironic and funny choice if you know the history, but, when has that ever stopped a birther? Go for the maximum entertainment value!) when you do not get the answer you want from the candidate.

Please also forward those photos to all of your republican representatives and encourage them to forward the photos to every person they know! Including the press!

Thank you, birther, thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CjbcqhGyU

[...] this and that, feeding off each others conspiracy theories. But, even Camp McCain investigated, and found them lacking. Why? (via Just One Minute) “To the extent that we could, we looked into the substantive side of [...]

You my friend have serious issues. I like you though. You entertain me.

No, they were left wing kooks. We're right wing kooks. :)

What a bunch of programmed R-OBOTS………………..

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

I think i'll show up with posters of the pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham posing nude. Do you think THAT might get people's attention ?

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

Yeah, he should have to prove he's as Uhmerrican as Ughity the Jeebus-loving patriot.

Okay, sounds good. Do you think they capture her likeness accurately ? Here, take a look !

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

And this proves Obama is not a U.S. citizen exactly how…?

More than likely these are pictures of your own mother that you photoshopped her face onto. “Sure, see, these pictures are on the internet, so they must be true. No one EVER lies on the internet.” I think it's time for your meds now. Don't worry, I'm sure your nurse will be right in.

And OBOT I want to thank you for you long winded post of superior deflection which continues to ignore and refuses to acknowledged and or examine the forensic evidence. Unfortunately for you, only the foolish are fooled by the OBOTS deception. As well, fortunately for you, only stupid people don't know they are stupid. You can either choose to enlighten your mind by risking exposing it to the forensic evidence or you can resist allowing yourself to informed. Doing the latter does protect you from having to admit to being wrong like you have always done throughout your life. Sad dude……………

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Probably not. You seem to be the only one fixated on them. Would you have them inside your trenchcoat?

You remind me of many men in my family, who thought that if they said it loudly enough (all caps) and often enough (multiple posts), they would convince us of whatever crap they were obsessing about…oddly enough, their Klan robes hung in the hall closet.

For how many hours have you been on this website repeatedly posting the same thing over and over. Go find yourself a quarter and buy yourself a real life with real things to worry about.

It is no wonder this country is so screwed up. It's really amazing.

Has “polarik” agreed to testify in court yet? Ya know, for forensics…

Also? http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-20…

Grow up Diogenes. Your not fooling anyone but yourself by trying to change the subject to something sordid. Go find another way to get off. clean your bedroom or something…………..

Oh, by the way, do ANY of you know how Stanley Ann Dunham Died ? Wasn't it at the age of 52 and of cervical cancer ?

What's the number one cause of Cervical Cancer ? Isn't it Human Pappiloma Virus ?

How do you catch that ? Isn't it by Multiple Sex partners ? I.E. Being a Slut ?

You should go national with your slimy old pictures. Fox could fit you in between the teabagging and the “white species” and Glenn Beck. And don't hide behind a moniker, use your own name proudly.

Look everybody, Greg hasn't forgotten how to cut and paste!

Greg – there is NO forensic evidence, rumors posted on right-wing sites are NOT evidence.

Regarding Weigel, a few days ago, he appeared on the Maddow show and blatantly lied. He said that Hawaii said they had another different certificate on file that “says the same stuff”. Except, that never happened.

He has provided the relevant and required information to whoever needed it. And with regard to his education, he funded his education in the same way a lot of students fund their educations: with scholarships, for the smart and gifted students, which he was; and with financial aid. How did you fund yours?

“birfoon”? Gollllleeeee Geeeeeeeeeeeeeee Doooooooooooooode U sownd edjucated…………………

I am still here and so is… say it with me… President Barack Obama!

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-20…

Stop crying in your teacups, Birthers. It's damned embarrassing.

Dave, I figured McCain, as well as Clinton and others, would have looked carefully. It's just sensible politics. But this is the first time I'm seeing campaign quotes. Thanks for pinning this down.

I wonder how much of a slut your mom was?

How about pictures? Can you tell if they are fake ? They look real to me !

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

Did you see these pictures ?

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naugh…

“The world is round not flat.” –MikeB

What evidence do you have to prove that the world is round not flat?

I'm talking legit evidence. Dont tell me about any of the obvious fakes that have been discussed and shredded by my online newsletter already.

It seems like such a simple request. Just back up what your saying, dude. ANY map that has a certificate (not certification) of authenticity should be able to prove your point, and then this whole thing will be laid to rest.

If you dont want to admit your wrong just say it libtard. Just say your wrong and this whole thing goes away.

_______________________________
jimpa:

Evidence :
Most Americans believe the world isn't flat. Just a small group of people believe that the earth is flat.
Astronauts and cosmonauts has seen the earth and state that the world isn't flat.
We have satellites orbiting the planet and their data says the world isn't flat.
Go to any main stream news source and it will state the world isn't flat.
Sailors at some point would fall off the flat surface.

_____________________________________________________
stephenperry:

Lies. Damnable lies.

1 – Link, please. Not to one of your commie libtard sites. Just a small group of people freed the U.S. mainland from British tyranny and lazy shiftless Native American Indians, pal. Dont tread on me.

2 – The moon landing was faked. Prove that it wasn't. Without using faked proof. I don't trust cosmonauts, they're commie fascist socialist marxist leftist rightist upist downists.

3 – You don't effing know what our satellites say unless you can read encrypted spy satellite code, libtard. We don't trust dumbocrats with national security.

4 – Main stream media is a libtard sewer.

5 – They'd have to go off the EDGE, Obamaphile. Who's dumb enough to sail off the edge? Sailors, like my grandfather and greatgrandfather who both served three tours in Iraq and Afghanistan AND Gettysburg, know how to steer a ship. Unlike you, libtard.

Jesus H. Christ. DO ANY OF YOU LIBTARDS HAVE A BRAIN IN YOUR COMMIE LEFTIST HEADS?

I have no idea how Florida Christian doesn't just giggle himself right off his computer chair every day.

Golly, how cute and harmless you guys are, Herr Goebbels.

My grandmother says “those who have nothing to hide, hide nothing.”

Obama hides a lot. He could have put this whole issue to rest with $12 to obtain a copy of his long form vault birth certificate. But he hasn't. Instead he's spent more than a million in legal fees to keep it hidden. Why? Even the most liberal moonbat must somewhere deep inside find that odd and a little disturbing. He even wrote in one of his books about himself that he found his birth certificate tucked in a book in the attic – so why doesn't he go get that one and show it? The man is hiding too much about himself!

There is NOTHING racist about asking someone holding the highest office in America to prove they are in fact legally eligible to hold said office. Those screaming “racist!” are proving themselves incapable of holding any real debate or willingness to consider the possibility that their kook-aid drinking has blinded them the fact that they may have been duped by a man who is doing his very best to destroy America. Open your eyes, obots, and really listen to what your dear leader says and does. He's a race baiter and you are all following in his footsteps each time you accuse someone of being racist for merely requesting the man prove he is a natural born citizen, or for disagreeing with his policies. Do you ever ask yourself how your accusations of racism make sense in arguments like this? Pray tell, kool-aid drinkers, exactly what race is socialist? What race is the intent to raise taxes on hard working citizens to pay for pork? Come on, you must have an answer since you're so quick to accuse others of racism for daring to disagree or question your dear leader… so explain it.

Are Americans not permitted to disagree with Obama or question him because he's *gasp* half black? Does the color of his skin mean we must all support all his policies, ideas and full agenda, no matter how damaging to the country or boneheaded they may be? Isn't screaming racist at those who exercise their rights to free speech and personal choice a bit racist on your part? Oh, that's right, liberals only believe in free speech if it is speech they agree with, otherwise they consider it racist and treasonist. What a bunch of hypocrites you liberals have become.

If you hate this country so much you chose to turn a blind eye to the damage being done by the growth of the government, if you want some suit in Washington telling you what you can and can't eat, if your mommy can have that life-saving surgery or not because of her age and value to the great society, then please do those of us who believe in the Constitution and what America stands for, who believe in personal responsibility and civility and law, and please leave. There are plenty of countries out there who would love to embrace whiny brats who stamp their feet and cry racism whenever they don't get their way, who want the government to take care of them from cradle to grave and take away all personal responsibility and choice… Go, find happiness and try to create your liberal utopia elsewhere, and when it fails, because socialism always does, don't come crying to those who called racist for asking the POTUS to show a valid long form birth certificate and who are actually paying attention to what the man does and says.

“Stop crying in your teacups, Birthers. It's damned embarrassing.

Dave, I figured McCain, as well as Clinton and others, would have looked carefully. It's just sensible politics. But this is the first time I'm seeing campaign quotes. Thanks for pinning this down.”

TRANSLATION: Hey like me this should settle it for you and there's no need to go look at any evidence of document fraud detected by experts. We be sheep and that's good. Thanks Dave for helping me to not free my mind from group think peer pressure. …………………

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS

WILL NOT HAVE THE BASIC COMPREHENSION SKILLS NECESSARY

TO GRASP THE IMPLICATIONS, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME

PICTURES SO MAYBE………..? I REPEAT, FREE YOUR MIND,

AFTER ALL ISN'T SCIENCE SUPPOSED TO BE RETURNED TO IT'S

RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION ?
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

Birthers…I want to thank you.

A heartfelt thank for your tremendous, ongoing efforts to make republicans look like a bunch of know-nothing, racist nutcases. Thank you for your unwavering devotion to this idiotic issue despite the mountain of contradictory facts thrown in your face every day. Thank you for attacking the moderates and thinking, rational people in your party, and for driving them to run away from your party, screaming in horror, at lightning speed. Thank you for being so completely delusional that you refuse to acknowledge that President Obama is sitting in the White House running the United States. Thank you for ignoring all the real issues going on in the USA right now. Thank you.

Please do keep all this insanity going until we have successfully passed health care reform, the energy bill, education reform, and have successfully brought a case challenging bans on gay marriage to the Supreme Court. Please stay the course. It may be difficult, but you can do it! Please keep this up at least through 2010. We really appreciate you embarrassing and alienating decent republican candidates and voters, inserting a huge wedge in your party, keeping your money and focus on this issue while ignoring the mid-term elections altogether. Thank you. Thank you.

We plan to do so much in the coming months, and then we plan to gain more House and Senate seats and expand our complete control of the entire government in 2010! Your help in this endeavor is very much appreciated.

Thank you birthers, thank you.

Maybe you all really ARE true patriots after all?
Thank you for helping us take the country back.

Please find a republican candidate's town hall meeting near you and raise this issue LOUDLY. I suggest then leading a rousing rendition of the Battle Hymn of the Republic when you do not get the answer you want!

Thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-x2OxWd4YY

“seems like he has something to hide here” Only to blind fools.

It's all out there, everything you SAY you want to see, although, of course, you don't really want to see it – this is so much more exciting.

You're like spoiled little brats; it isn't enough that it's all out there, not for you, you DEMAND that it be spoon fed to you – then you'll find some other wierdness to obssess over.

Congratulations ” Blowitoutyourbum” for not surrendering your mind to the OBOT group think peer pressure! FREEDOM!!!!

How long you going to play this game braindead OBOT?

And OBOT I want to thank you for you long winded post of superior deflection which continues to ignore and refuses to acknowledged and or examine the forensic evidence. Unfortunately for you, only the foolish are fooled by the OBOTS deception. As well, fortunately for you, only stupid people don't know they are stupid. You can either choose to enlighten your mind by risking exposing it to the forensic evidence or you can resist allowing yourself to informed. Doing the latter does protect you from having to admit to being wrong like you have always done throughout your life. Sad dude……………

It continues to amaze me that in this debate the media

and the OBOTS continue to ignore and refuse to examines

the evidence of fraud as determined by several licensed

document examiners who regularly are used by the FBI to

examine forged documents. Free your mind OBOTS and quit

spouting the Obama media lapdogs and look at the actual

forensic evidence which clearly shows the document to be

an incredibly sloppy forgery. For starters, why would

the COLB issued in 2007 have the border only found on

the 2008 COLB form? DUH!!!!! . FOR THE LAST TIME! LOOK

AT THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE!!! UNFORTUNATELY MANY OBOTS