Liz Cheney Sympathizes With the Birthers

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CHENEY: But setting that aside, I think that — you know, one of the reasons I think you see people so concerned about this, I think that, you know, this issue is people are uncomfortable with having, for the first time ever, I think, a president who seems so reluctant to defend the nation overseas; a president who sits through completely venomous screed by Daniel Ortega and then his only response, when the United States has been hostilely attacked, is to say, hey, you know, basically, I was only there at the time.

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CARVILLE: That’s so…

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C And, you know, we’ve seen this — James, don’t interrupt me.

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CARVILLE: Sure…

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We’ve seen this again and again and again, where this president seems to sort of want to…

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But what does…

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…create moral equivalence.

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…that have to — are you saying that…

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I think it makes people…

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Are you saying because he’s a Kenyan?

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No, I’m not saying that.

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Oh.

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I’m saying that people are fundamentally uncomfortable…

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The question was about (INAUDIBLE).

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…and they’re fundamentally, I think, increasingly uncomfortable with an American president who seems to be afraid to defend America.

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All right…

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Who seems to be afraid to stand up for what we believe in.

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All right, James, do you want to answer that?

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CARVILLE: Yes, I do.

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And I think that the kind of thing that you saw…

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All right, let him answer, Liz.

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CARVILLE: Again, you know…

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…is indicative of sort of a general…

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James, go ahead.

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(LAUGHTER)

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…feeling of discomfort.

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Again, Liz, let him answer.

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James, go ahead.

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CARVILLE: Yes, I guess we’re supposed to — a volume of words I certainly lost.

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(LAUGHTER)

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CARVILLE: But again, these people…

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I’m quality too, James.

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CARVILLE: …again.

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But go ahead. Sorry.

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CARVILLE: You’re right. I’ve been accused of hurling facts around.

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Let me hurl a fact around. These people are poor — these poor pathetic people are believing stuff, just like — just like Ms. tonight. She refuses to say this is ludicrous because she actually wants to encourage these people to believe this. It’s just a simple thing. This is a nutty thing. There’s nothing to this. I disagree with this president’s policies.

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They can’t say that. They can’t say that because…

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James, I am…

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CARVILLE: …they’re scared they’ll lose the…

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…I — James, sorry…

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CARVILLE: …this sort of nut wing of their party.

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Sorry, James.

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We’re out of time, guys.

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(CROSSTALK)

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CARVILLE: That’s their problem.

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I am more concerned — James, I think that there’s plenty…

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We’re going to have you back.

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(LAUGHTER)

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…to be concerned about with this president.

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CARVILLE: Right.

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And I think that…

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All right…

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…we’ve got to look forward in terms of…

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(CROSSTALK)

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…the things that he’s doing to the country going forward…

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(CROSSTALK)

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All right. Thanks, guys.

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…the direction he’s going to take us in.

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James Carville and Liz By the way, Liz, quickly, are you going to run for office?