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	<title>Comments on: From Out of the Memory Hole: CIA Referrals for Torture Prosecutions</title>
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		<title>By: johnhkennedy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Holder Probe Would Be Big Break From Bush Torture Policy&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh Please, IT IS NOT !&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This trial balloon is designed to try to get away with a very narrowly focused, very limited&lt;br&gt;investigation of only a few criminals who tortured using methods worse than the&lt;br&gt;ALREADY ILLEGAL Torture Methods Approved In The Torture Memos.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Unless we voters get a complete investigation of all the abuses of power and violations of Federal Laws, Holder&#039;s tightly focused, limited investigation of torture that violated the &quot;Bush Cheney Torture Memos&quot; means little or nothing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem here is that Attorney General Holder seems to be leaning toward a very narrow investigation about the &quot;wrong&quot; Torture violations.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SEE our Federal Anti-Torture Law &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/besdd3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/besdd3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Holder appears to be saying that the Bush &quot;Torture Memos&quot; have the force of law, that the memos became new torture law and that he only has to prosecute violations which were outside of the Torture allowed by the memos. That is false.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The &quot;Torture Memos&quot; themselves are a criminal conspiracy to evade our Federal Anti-Torture Laws and to render our Federal Torture Law moot.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Torture Momos were &quot;used to con normally law abiding, patriotic CIA agents and&lt;br&gt;US Soldiers&quot; into violating our existing Federal Torture Laws.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A presidentially appointed lawyer can&#039;t make or change Federal Laws no matter who appoints them. Bush and Cheney attempted to ignore the law and put all who tortured or conspired to torture, even if they meant well (chuckle), at serious risk of prosecution.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We the people have to bring these creeps to justice or this will happen again even when the Democrats are in power (perhaps especially, remember President Johnson and Vietnam and Operation Phoenix, thousands assassinated? The CIA again).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Prosecute all those that tortured in our name, then go after all the other Federal Crimes and violations of our Constitution committed by Bush and Cheney.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If House Judiciary Chairman Rep. John Conyers&lt;br&gt;does not soon start hearings in his Committee&lt;br&gt;on the crimes of the Bush Administration&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;WE Must ALL Call For His Resignation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SIGN THE PETITIONS&lt;br&gt;Demanding&lt;br&gt;both a Commission of Inquiry&lt;br&gt;and a Special Prosecutor&lt;br&gt;For All Their Crimes&lt;br&gt;at ANGRYVOTERS.ORG&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ANGRYVOTERS.ORG&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ANGRYVOTERS.ORG&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We must hang in there...&lt;br&gt;or our own children or grandchildren may in future decades&lt;br&gt;be tortured and imprisoned without cause because of our failure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Holder Probe Would Be Big Break From Bush Torture Policy&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh Please, IT IS NOT !</p>
<p>This trial balloon is designed to try to get away with a very narrowly focused, very limited<br />investigation of only a few criminals who tortured using methods worse than the<br />ALREADY ILLEGAL Torture Methods Approved In The Torture Memos.</p>
<p>Unless we voters get a complete investigation of all the abuses of power and violations of Federal Laws, Holder&#39;s tightly focused, limited investigation of torture that violated the &#8220;Bush Cheney Torture Memos&#8221; means little or nothing.</p>
<p>The problem here is that Attorney General Holder seems to be leaning toward a very narrow investigation about the &#8220;wrong&#8221; Torture violations.</p>
<p>SEE our Federal Anti-Torture Law <a href="http://tinyurl.com/besdd3" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/besdd3</a></p>
<p>Holder appears to be saying that the Bush &#8220;Torture Memos&#8221; have the force of law, that the memos became new torture law and that he only has to prosecute violations which were outside of the Torture allowed by the memos. That is false.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Torture Memos&#8221; themselves are a criminal conspiracy to evade our Federal Anti-Torture Laws and to render our Federal Torture Law moot.</p>
<p>The Torture Momos were &#8220;used to con normally law abiding, patriotic CIA agents and<br />US Soldiers&#8221; into violating our existing Federal Torture Laws.</p>
<p>A presidentially appointed lawyer can&#39;t make or change Federal Laws no matter who appoints them. Bush and Cheney attempted to ignore the law and put all who tortured or conspired to torture, even if they meant well (chuckle), at serious risk of prosecution.</p>
<p>We the people have to bring these creeps to justice or this will happen again even when the Democrats are in power (perhaps especially, remember President Johnson and Vietnam and Operation Phoenix, thousands assassinated? The CIA again).</p>
<p>Prosecute all those that tortured in our name, then go after all the other Federal Crimes and violations of our Constitution committed by Bush and Cheney.</p>
<p>If House Judiciary Chairman Rep. John Conyers<br />does not soon start hearings in his Committee<br />on the crimes of the Bush Administration</p>
<p>WE Must ALL Call For His Resignation.</p>
<p>SIGN THE PETITIONS<br />Demanding<br />both a Commission of Inquiry<br />and a Special Prosecutor<br />For All Their Crimes<br />at ANGRYVOTERS.ORG</p>
<p><a href="http://ANGRYVOTERS.ORG" rel="nofollow">http://ANGRYVOTERS.ORG</a></p>
<p>We must hang in there&#8230;<br />or our own children or grandchildren may in future decades<br />be tortured and imprisoned without cause because of our failure</p>
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		<title>By: CIA referrals for torture prosecutions &#171; Later On</title>
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		<dc:creator>CIA referrals for torture prosecutions &#171; Later On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Daily life, Government, Law, Obama administration, Torture at 10:21 am by LeisureGuy Spencer Ackerman in the Washington Independent: Something else from Attorney General Eric Holder’s apparent decision to seek prosecutions for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Daily life, Government, Law, Obama administration, Torture at 10:21 am by LeisureGuy Spencer Ackerman in the Washington Independent: Something else from Attorney General Eric Holder’s apparent decision to seek prosecutions for [...]</p>
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