Former Congressman J.D. Hayworth Joins the Birthers

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Friday, July 17, 2009 at 4:29 pm

J.D. Hayworth, a former Arizona Republican congressman who went down to a narrow defeat in 2006, now hosts a radio show on KFYI 550. Today he interviewed Orly Taitz, the luckless attorney for Maj. Stefan Cook, and gave her plenty of airtime to misinform about her latest court defeat. Audio of the interview is here.

Cook volunteered for duty in Afghanistan, then asked for a stay until the president proved that he was an American citizen, then acted surprised when his deployment was canceled. While Lt. Com. William Speaks, a spokesman for CentCom, has debunked Taitz’s conspiracy theories about the court defeat—she has repeatedly and falsely claimed that the military cancelled the deployment because it couldn’t authenticate the president’s citizenship—Hayworth showed no signs of skepticism whatsoever.

Isn’t this difficult for you to say, I’ll continue to bring cases that could concievably undermine national security? Or is the shoe on the other foot with Sec. Gates and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, with their unwillingness to go into court, to be involved in discovery, to really deal with the eligibility of the commander-in-chief?

Hayworth sounded stunned that Cook’s deployment had been cancelled, “rather than the Department of Defense taking up and saying, well, here is the eligibility of the commander.” Like Sean Hannity, he opted for Taitz’s version of the story over CentCom’s, telling listeners that the result “certainly could be characterized as a victory for Maj. Cook and Dr. Orly Taitz.” And he closed the interview by sympathetically asking Taitz if she feared “an atmosphere of intimidation” coming at her from the White House.

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70 Comments

shag11
Comment posted July 17, 2009 @ 9:45 pm

The idiot lost his seat, he needs something to do with himself.


disbar_the_birfer_lawyers
Comment posted July 17, 2009 @ 10:09 pm

Hey birfoons, do me a favor and go read this:
http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpaper

You may learn something. Hamilton says about the mode of electing the President, in the link I provide above:

Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one querter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union? But the convention have guarded against all danger of this sort, with the most provident and judicious attention. They have not made the appointment of the President to depend on any preexisting bodies of men, who might be tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes; but they have referred it in the first instance to an immediate act of the people of America, to be exerted in the choice of persons for the temporary and sole purpose of making the appointment. And they have excluded from eligibility to this trust, all those who from situation might be suspected of too great devotion to the President in office. No senator, representative, or other person holding a place of trust or profit under the United States, can be of the numbers of the electors. Thus without corrupting the body of the people, the immediate agents in the election will at least enter upon the task free from any sinister bias. Their transient existence, and their detached situation, already taken notice of, afford a satisfactory prospect of their continuing so, to the conclusion of it. The business of corruption, when it is to embrace so considerable a number of men, requires time as well as means. Nor would it be found easy suddenly to embark them, dispersed as they would be over thirteen States, in any combinations founded upon motives, which though they could not properly be denominated corrupt, might yet be of a nature to mislead them from their duty.
———————-
In other words the people collectively elect the Pres, and the electors are chosen by the people from ordinary folks for the sole and temporary purpose of electing the Pres, this was done EXACTLY for the purpose of avoiding foreign influence, the thinking being that IF this was left to the people it would require far too much effort to successfully compromise all or a majority of the electors.

The power of verifying pres qualifications is left to the people exactly because the Founders believed it was the best way to guard against foreign influence. Notice that the Constitution designates both the House and the Senate to check qualifications of its own members, but designates no one to do such for the Pres.

This idiot birther cases will never be heard, Verifying the Pres's eligibility is left to the people in the election process…it is NOT a power of the Judicial branch and they will NOT get involved in this crap. Give it up already and move on.


U R Wrong!
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 12:57 am

In regards to your assertion that there is no provision to verify eligibility of the President elect by Congress, The Constitution, Twentieth amendment, section three says the following:

”3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.”

Clearly, there is a requirement to “qualify” for the Presidency after the electoral votes have been authenticated. Clearly, the “Congress” is charged with this duty to verify qualifications or they must choose a replacement for the office. Clearly, it is the responsibility of the “President elect” to successfully “qualify”. This means that he, the person seeking the office, must present evidence to Congress that he meets the requirements set forth for President, on of which is that he is a natural born citizen. My congressman has the right to verify whether or not this was indeed done. Too bad he doesn't have the guts to step forth and demand so.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 1:56 am

Hm. As if “an atmosphere of intimidation” weren't in effect, whether it can be traced to Mr. Soetoro and his handlers or not.

Is there reason for officers of the Pentagon to have pressured Major Cook's civilian employer to discharge him without severance?

Yes, there are excuses why this could lawfully be done, but is the spirit of the action supportive of the security of these United States or merely indicative of the vindictiveness with which our present Executive Branch of civil government treats a citizen who dares – as is his right and duty – to call into question the legitimate qualification of the individual occupying the office of that government's chief executive?

The naked viciousness of Mr. Soetoro does him even less credit than his obstinate refusal to settle the matter in question by simply handing a certified and true, signed and sealed physical copy of his birth certificate to a panel of competent and impartial forensic documents examiners.

We know that he's hiding this information. More and more, it must be concluded that his reasons for concealing this document – and for keeping tightly sealed his academic records, his records in the Illinois state senate, his records as an instructor at the University of Chicago, his list of clients served while practicing as an attorney at law, and even his medical records in Kenya (which the government of Kenya sealed “permanently, until after the U.S. elections”) – are sordid in the extreme, rising to the level at which the exposure of this information would demonstrate criminal *mens rea* sufficient to get him indicted on multiple counts of fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud.

That Mr. Weigel trusts and adores Mr. Soetoro I do not doubt.

Maybe they should get a room and consummate the passion in private. This kind of butt-sucking doesn't bear exposure on the Internet.


LaLee
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 3:12 am

Tuci, i'm willing to concede if you can find me a Hawaiian the same age as Obama and get him/her to ask for his/her “long form” BC which has been verified by “a panel of competent and impartial forensic documents examiners.”

If you (Or any “Birth Certificate Conspiracy” theorists for that matter) can do that then i concede that your concern is valid.

Certainly, it would be more productive to your cause then to come posting comments which only showed your ignorance of how The Constitution or privacy law like HIPAA works.

Of course you can dismiss this as just another “red herring” or whatever, but if you do so then you might as well admit that you (and the “Birth Certificate Conspiracy” theorists) have no evidence and no case.


LaLee
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 3:26 am

You said: “My congressman has the right to verify whether or not this was indeed done.”

Did he still has that right AFTER the POTUS has been elected?

Did he have evidence that such vetting didn't occur?

I don't mine people asking for verification but i do mind if it's just a way to find excuse to disqualify someone especially when that someone has nothing in his/her records which could justify disqualification.


rgfuck
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 3:29 am

It ONLY costs $12 USD to get his long form birth certificate. He has already wasted trillions. Respond: why doesn't he just show it and stop the insanity?
Probably because he IS a FRAUD!


Tuci78
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 3:33 am

Certainly it's a red herring. Like the proverbial “dead mackerel by moonlight,” it glistens and stinks.

But even if Mr. Soetoro (or even someone born in Hawaii in 1961, for Mr. Soetoro is making it plain that he was not) could not draw from the archives of the state of Hawaii a true and certified copy of his birth certificate at this present date, how about we get him to put into the hands of a competent and impartial panel of forensic documents examiners the Certification of Live Birth allegedly used to create that hilarious fraudulence of a computer graphic (JPG) image back in June 2008?

There's supposed to be a piece of paper generated by the government of the state of Hawaii sometime in 2007. I'm no more willing to take the existence of that piece of paper on faith than I am to believe that Sasquatch is alive and well and running for tax collector in Bozeman, Montana.

(( Yes, I know he's a Republican. ))

Oh, and I like that HIPAA crack. Back in 2003, I was responsible for drawing up a corporate policy on patient privacy protection as required by 45 CFR parts 160, 162, and 164, prepared the teaching program, taught the program, and set up the annual tests to re-certify familiarity with the applicable provisions of these regulations.

I think what you really ought to be discussing is Hawaii state statutes, not inapplicable federal regulations. Jeez, some people…


captainsteve
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 4:07 am

I agree with JD!

OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!!

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-o…

Bye bye Barry! hahaha


Anti Liberal
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 4:07 am

Obama is indeed a usurper as he's not a natural born citizen of these United States. To be natural born he would need to be born of two parents that are citizens of the USA. He is not. This group of natural born citizens is the largest group of citizens in the USA of which BO is not a member. Since he is not, as he's admitted (his father is Kenyan), he must be removed and prosecuted for treason against the USA. With any luck at all he'll be hanged on the White House lawn for all to see!!!


Sandee
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 4:42 am

Why can't this issue be simply resolved by consent by Obama to Hawaii releasing a certified long form birth certificate. The price is less than $20 and it should resolve all this issue to the satisfaction of the American Public. Didn't he have to provide an original to obtain a passport anyway? He has traveled to other nations with a passport presumably. We have to show one to get a driver's license. When my Godmother died I needed original copies in a sealed envelope to proceed with the estate matters. The first one I offered was a copy and that was rejected. I needed one certified and issued by the state. Why is this so sensitive that he cannot agree to the release of a certified long form original to honor us and display in the archives of our great nation of a native born son and his legacy? One would think he would be proud to display it. Why is it such a matter of secrecy and non disclosure?


LaLee
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 4:47 am

You said: “Oh, and I like that HIPAA crack. Back in 2003, I was responsible for drawing up a corporate policy on patient privacy protection as required by 45 CFR parts 160, 162, and 164, prepared the teaching program, taught the program, and set up the annual tests to re-certify familiarity with the applicable provisions of these regulations.”

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

No offense Tuci, but i found it hard to believe someone as ignorant as you could ever even be near such program.

Then again a former head of Arabian Horses Association can be appointed as head of FEMA so it's not impossible IMO.

BTW Tuci remember when i asked you how in the world could MERE SUSPICION be ground for any subpoena?

You still haven't answer that question.


LaLee
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 4:49 am

You said: “It ONLY costs $12 USD to get his long form birth certificate.”

Really?

Can i see your “long form” BC if it's really that easy and simple?


Tuci78
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 4:51 am

Uh, because it would almost certainly prove that Barry Soetoro isn't a “natural-born” U.S. citizen, and therefore criminally guilty of fraudulently standing for election to the presidency, duplicitously taking the oath of office (I think there's two counts on that), and liable to way helluva number of counts of secondary criminal offenses arising from this fundamental fraudulence.

Under the RICO statutes, there's even a nice possibility that the entire national leadership of the Democratic Party is going to get a series of “What did you know, and when did you know it?” questions, the end result of which will be a lot of upward mobility among the ranks of the third- and fourth-tier functionaries of the Blue Party as the senior folk go wholesale into the federal prison population.

Bound to catch a bunch of Republicans, too. Jeez, don't you just love the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act of 1970? It may not be altogether constitutional, but, then, neither are either the Republicans or the Democrats.


LaLee
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 4:53 am

You said: “Why can't this issue be simply resolved by consent by Obama to Hawaii releasing a certified long form birth certificate.”

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understand…

“We have to show one to get a driver's license.”

I don't know what DMV you went to but the one i went to didn't ask to see my “long form” BC.

“Why is it such a matter of secrecy and non disclosure?”

Again.

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understand…


Tuci78
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 5:03 am

Well, somebody had to articulate the policy and set up the program of instruction. Yet another of those “Let George Do It” jobs I've gotten stuck with over the years.

And how do you get “ignorant” out of it? All I had to do was pull up the pertinent regulations online, take a look at corporate operations as they related (or might in future relate) to identifiable patient-specific Protected Health Information, take a look at guidelines articulated in journals like *Medical Economics* and on the Medscape Business of Medicine Web site, and bash it out.

We're not talking rocket science, Darlin'.

As for suspicion as grounds for a subpoena duces tecum seeking evidence of a criminal act or tort, LaLee, what the hell else is grounds therefore?

Jeez, you ever been face-to-face with a process server, kiddo?


LaLee
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 5:10 am

You said: “As for suspicion as grounds for a subpoena duces tecum seeking evidence of a criminal act or tort, LaLee, what the hell else is grounds therefore?”

How about circumstantial evidence?

Like picture of Obama's mother in Kenya in the 60s when she was pregnant with him or something like that.

Mere suspicion is not evidence.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 5:21 am

Yep, you've never been confronted by a process server in all your little life. Probably don't do anything in your work-a-day world that could draw the attention of a member of the ATLA.

Oh, yeah. They're calling themselves “The Institute for Justice” now. Who knows? Maybe next month it'll be “The Justice League of America.”

Suspicion of a criminal or malpractitionate act is all that's needed to get a subpoena out of a judge who isn't hammered into refusing to perform his duty as a magistrate.

A person whose attorney is naming just about every doctor in the phone book pertinent to a malpractice lawsuit can get ENDLESS numbers of subpoena orders issued. I know. I've been on the receiving end of a bunch of 'em, to most of which (like almost every other guy in the profession) I've had to respond:

“Your Honor, I never even SAW Mr. So-and-so as a patient. I can't provide Mr. Slimey Shyster a copy of medical records that don't exist.”

Mr. Slimey Shyster, so informed, will almost invariably drop me from the lawsuit, and/or the judge will dismiss me therefrom with prejudice, and I take my blood pressure medication and try to get my tachycardia under control.

But, Darlin', if you think that suspicion is not grounds for SEEKING evidence, you're blessedly ignorant of the facts of life, and I hope for your sake you never have reason to violate that glorious, pristine, blithering idiocy of yours ever in the course of what I hope will be for you a long and obviously bovine life.


LaLee
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 5:36 am

You said: “A person whose attorney is naming just about every doctor in the phone book pertinent to a malpractice lawsuit can get ENDLESS numbers of subpoena orders issued.”

I'm not a lawyer but wouldn't such thing would be “fishing expedition” and thus illegal?


Tuci78
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 5:47 am

I'd think so, but then I'm a member of the prey species. My personal and professional insight into the relationship between judges (“law students who get to mark their own exam papers”) and practicing attorneys has led me to the conclusion that these people are fixated upon proceduralistic concerns – rightly or wrongly so – and nothing remotely resembling considerations like the Evidence-Based Medicine (EBM) approach which has been making such an impact on the provision of health care over the past decade.

Dismissal of a petition for a subpoena duces tecum on the judge's presumption that the petitioning attorney is undertaking a “fishing expedition” is not something I would expect such an officer of the court to undertake unless he is being pressured by some consideration of political (or even more sordid) influence.

Of which I have no doubt in the various cases where proceduralistic “fancy lawyer tricks” have been employed by Mr. Soetoro's goniffs to get him out from under compulsion to come up with documentary proof of his “natural-born” citizen status.


LaLee
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 7:00 am

You said: “Dismissal of a petition for a subpoena duces tecum on the judge's presumption that the petitioning attorney is undertaking a “fishing expedition” is not something I would expect such an officer of the court to undertake unless he is being pressured by some consideration of political (or even more sordid) influence.”

You may believe that all you want but do you have any proof such “pressure” happened?

It seems to me the “Birth Certificate Conspiracy” theorists' case has been on nothing more than suspicions or conjecture with NO EVIDENCE.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 7:18 am

Tsk. LaLee, are you entirely unfamiliar with the long and sordid history of suppressio veri, suggestio falsi among the ranks of elected and appointed officers of civil government at all levels?

Let's make a comparison. Say you were a young physician working a VD clinic, and you encountered a patient whose physical findings were strongly suggestive of sexual promiscuity, up to and including indications of recent activity as a prostitute.

This individual protests his or her lack of any such history of sexual promiscuity, all the while demonstrating unmistakable signs of some several sexually transmitted diseases.

Do you believe the patient's protestations or press upon him/her the necessity not only for medical treatment to help resolve his/her personal illnesses, but also the necessity to reach out to his/her sexual contacts – however many and however embarrassing such outreach might prove to be – in order to address the public health hazard of these pathogens ping-ponging all to hellangone over the community?

Judges and other lawyers are not impressed by such obdurate and intractable considerations as the facts of reality. They live forever in fantasyland, buffered by the rituals of procedure to an extent that would amaze you if only you were unfortunate enough to run afoul of these spectacular sonsofbitches.

Factual reality makes itself manifest to man in many different ways, but always for those of us in and around the sciences, we begin with:

“Damn. That's funny….”

And there's Mr. Soetoro and his astonishing stonewalling, his refusal to expose to public scrutiny his birth certificate (which the officers of the state of Hawaii have been quoted – perhaps inaccurately – as saying they DO have on file in their archives), his academic records, his records as an elected officer of the Illinois state government, his medical records (in Kenya and in these United States), and a great deal more.

All material that every other Boot-On-Your-Neck Party (Republican or Democrat wing) candidate for the presidency has provided in grindingly thorough detail, sometimes whether it had been requested by the press or not.

So about Mr. Soetoro, I've surely got to say:

“Damn. That's funny….”

Mr. Soetoro is figuratively dripping pus from the tip of his talleywacker, and it doesn't take a demon diagnostician to tell that further investigation and treatment is necessary.

He's a public health hazard.


LaLee
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 7:49 am

You may say whatever you want about Obama but he's still POTUS no matter what you said or posted on the internet.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 7:55 am

And there's LaLee, going “Nurmee!-Nurmee!-Nurmee!-I'm-Not-LISTENING!” over and over and over again….

Barry is POTUS until the federal marshals come to the White House and walk him out to the van in handcuffs, ankle fetters, and belly chains.

I want to Tivo the live broadcast on CNN. History in the making.


LaLee
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 8:14 am

Oh man, we're not in kindergarten anymore.

But hey if you want to keep posting comments like that then that's fine by me.

Obama is still POTUS no mater what you did.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 8:31 am

Well, I never was in Kindergarten. Went directly into first grade.

But it's getting more and more evident that you got yourself a “social promotion” out of that class, didn'tcha?

As I've said, he's POTUS until he gets convicted. After that, we won't have to wonder about the serial number redacted from that hilarious excuse for a computer graphic scan image.

He'll have a new number, stenciled across the chest of his orange jumpsuit.


U R Wrong!
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 1:22 pm

It isn't a matter of “disqualifying” someone after the fact. It's a matter of making sure that the “qualification” as required in section three was in fact carried out. If this was done, who verified this information? If this was done, where is the evidence of having “qualified”? We, the citizens of this nation certainly have the right to know whether or not someone who is occupying the office of President is actually legally doing so. We have a right to demand and be shown the evidence that the Constitution was obeyed. It's not a pick and choose document.


stevemustang
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 6:53 pm

Orly Taitz is a KGB operative.


p m meister
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 7:25 pm

JD Hayworth is a former local sportscaster that could only have been elected to office in the Red State of Arizona so now we have him on Rush Limbaughs radio monopoly here in Phoenix. People are so apathetic here we have clowns like Jon Kyl whose only goal is to see that the country fails for his personal gain. He truly is a tragic figure. And we had the NRA pay-off our state legistlature (for the 3rd time) so we can now have guns in bars and restaurants, and our governor actually signed the bill. That is how stupid it is getting.


p m meister
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 7:32 pm

true! Too bad Jon Kyl didn't not get defeated. He is truly rooting for failure for his own personal gain.


LaLee
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 11:14 pm

You said: “We, the citizens of this nation certainly have the right to know whether or not someone who is occupying the office of President is actually legally doing so.”

Not without compelling evidence.

Do ANY of the “Birth Certificate Conspiracy” theorists have such evidence?

Suspicion is not evidence.


Pug
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 11:31 pm

I hope you receive a visit from the Secret Service. You certainly deserve one.

They should keep an eye on all the nuts they can find and you are a nut.


RedGraham
Comment posted July 19, 2009 @ 2:54 am

NULLIFY the Usurper!


LaLee
Comment posted July 19, 2009 @ 11:03 am

Please don't be like this guy.

NY Daily News June 11. 2009:
'Obama created by Jews': Holocaust Museum shooting suspect James von Brunn's chilling racist note
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2009/0…


LaLee
Comment posted July 19, 2009 @ 11:20 am

You said: “This group of natural born citizens is the largest group of citizens in the USA of which BO is not a member. Since he is not, as he's admitted (his father is Kenyan), he must be removed and prosecuted for treason against the USA.”

FYI not only one does not have to have two (Or any) American parents to be NBC as proven by SCOTUS decision on “United States Vs Wong Kim Ark” but an NBC can be POTUS even if his/her father is not US citizen,

For example CHESTER A ARTHUR.


guest
Comment posted July 19, 2009 @ 5:12 pm

Welcome to the ranks of the curious congressman. I want to see all documentation as well. Im just a grandma, but something just doesnt sit right about all that is happening.


LaLee
Comment posted July 19, 2009 @ 5:48 pm

No offense, but unless those congressmen or you have compelling evidence then neither of you has the right to see ll documentation because they're private records.

OTOH Obama doesn't have the right to see your or anyone's health and birth records either, not even with executive order if he doesn't have compelling evidence.

If i'm wrong then please tell me the law case where someone is allowed to see someone else's private records based on nothing but mere suspicion.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 19, 2009 @ 8:23 pm

The moment that Mr. Soetoro announced his candidacy for the presidency of these United States, he renounced claims to privacy pertinent to his eligibility to run for or to hold that office.

In a manner of speaking, he willingly put himself on the griddle, and from that moment on, any citizen desiring to do so is perfectly within his rights to barbecue the sonofabitch.

As an officer of civil government, acting as an officer of the civil government, his life is an open book. If those of us who number among his prey population (i.e., the productive portion of the U.S. population) demand to look at the book, and infer from his strenuous efforts to conceal his past that the miserable bastich is hiding something indicative of criminal culpability, the only way for him to support his legitimacy is to come clean.

We want EVERYTHING, LaLee. Just EVERYTHING. What's wrong with wanting to know EVERYTHING about your Messiah, hm?

What, you don't want to know EVERYTHING yourself, Darlin'?

What are you afraid of?


Tuci78
Comment posted July 19, 2009 @ 8:37 pm

Yet more argumentum ad hominem.

(See http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hom… among other sources. It's not simple insult, but rather a logical fallacy “in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.”)

The failings of the various “birther” posters on these threads notwithstanding, I have found uniform among the Obamaphiles a disquieting inability to voice reasoned, logical argument in just about any way whatsoever. Does one HAVE to be a blithering idiot to support that Keynesian sonofabitch?

Seems so….


Doc3
Comment posted July 19, 2009 @ 10:33 pm

The COLB produced by Obama does not answer if he is a natural born citizen. If Obama were born anywhere outside US Territory he is not qualified. Why is important to see the vault birth records? The reason is that in 1961 Hawaii after Statehood was rife with immigration fraud. Anyone could walk in off the street and register a baby on their good word and get a birth certificate. In other words people lied a lot.

Obama has claimed he was born in a hospital in Hawaii. The only way to prove that is to produce the vault records that would contain the place of birth. If it confirms the name of the hospital Obama has claimed then fine. On the other hand, if his mother said he was born at home or some other place it raises questions. Such as where was he born? What evidence is there of that? Was he born overseas and brought back to Hawaii and registered and his parents lied about it.

Many cite the listing of Obama's birth in the local newspapers but that is only circumstantial and was something that was done by the Health department for all babies issued birth certificates.

Keep in mind that the hospital that Obama claims he was born at has not confirmed the birth due to privacy laws. Obama has refused to release those hospital records as well as the vault birth records.

So the natural born standard is the highest standard in our Nation. The COLB does not on its face answer the question, even if it is legitimate. That will still require that the original vault birth records be released, which Obama could do by signing a release and paying $10.00.


Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 2:08 am

Gee a raging RACIST like Jackoff D. Hayworth is now a birther.

This guy was such a raging loon the Republicans knew how useless he was even when he was in office.


Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 2:10 am

Make a deal with you. The long form is released and unless it SPECIFIALLY PROVES THAT HE IS CONSTITUTIONALLY UNQUALIFIED, you and every single person who has even posted a single comment supporting your lies is immediately arrested, convicted and sentenced for treason in your attempted coup de tat against the lawfully elected president of the United States.

You do know the penalty for treason, right?


Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 2:13 am

Well duhh, he is black, therefore to their delusional minds its impossible that he was legally elected.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 2:24 am

What “deal,” dimwit? Do you know the DEFINITION of treason, Matty-boy?

I just love the fulminant Obamaphile. The frustration, the indignity, the sputtering stupidity, the squealing and fussing and kvetching that there should be anybody – ANYBODY – who dares to question the divinity of their Messiah….

Have I once voiced a “lie,” Matty-bubbie? Have I for an instant spoken sedition, or advocated rebellion, or done anything other than to aver that it's probable that the Chicago machine politician (keep those words in mind, Matty: “Chicago machine politician”) who appears to usurp the office of president of these United States is a criminal malefactor who's hiding everything in his background because he's likely afraid that not only would the exposure of that information tattoo him politically “Null & Void” but also land his carcass in a federal penitentiary for the rest of his natural life?

Gee, Matty, is that a “lie” just because you've got your fingers crossed and you fervently hope it isn't so?

I've lived through Nixon and all the Republicans going “It's a lie, it's a lie, it's a lie!”

I've lived through Bubba and all the Democrats going “It's a lie, it's a lie, it's a lie!”

And now I get to live through Barry Soetoro and your bunch, whining “It's a lie, it's a lie, it's a lie.”

Well, the more it changes, the more things stay the same….


LaLee
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 4:55 am

You said: “The moment that Mr. Soetoro announced his candidacy for the presidency of these United States, he renounced claims to privacy pertinent to his eligibility to run for or to hold that office.”

Tuci, can you provide me with ANY law or SCOTUS decision which supports this statement of yours?

“We want EVERYTHING, LaLee. Just EVERYTHING.”

I want world peace but there's nothing in the constitution that said the government is obliged to give it to me.


Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 5:02 am

You are giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States of America by advocating the removal of the lawfully elected POTUS. You are a traitor for your treasonous accusations.

Your attempts to argue that your inability to comprehend reality means that you don't lie regardless of the lack of truth behind your accusations speaks volumes of your poor morals.


LaLee
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 5:06 am

You said: “The COLB produced by Obama does not answer if he is a natural born citizen.”

Have you seen the COLB picture? It said HONOLULU as place of birth.

That means Obama is NBC because he was born ON US SOIL as supported by 14th Amendment and SCOTUS decision on “United States Vs Wong Kim Ark.”

“The reason is that in 1961 Hawaii after Statehood was rife with immigration fraud.”

Really?

Can you provide official records or 1961 Hawaiian news which prove this statement?


Tuci78
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 5:08 am

Tsk. LaLee, go ask a lawyer, okay? I'm just a broken down old country sawbones. The fact of the matter is that even under the black-letter statutes and red-letter law applicable to slander and libel, the standards under which people who have voluntarily thrust themselves into the public eye (and running for the presidency certainly qualifies) are substantially different from the protections penumbra'd over private citizens.

Particularly when it comes to aspects of their personal lives that bear proximally upon their lawful qualification to run for and/or to hold the office of public trust they're seeking. And no matter how you perseverate, LaLee, your Messiah's “natural-born” status is exquisitely pertinent to his qualifications.

What's more, given the perambulating practices of his mother and father in 1961 – jetting all to hellangone over creation – and the fact that the government of Kenya had explicitly announced that Mr. Soetor's medical records in that country were being sealed “permanently, until after the U.S. elections,” the stench of rotting corpses under the floorboards really can't be denied.

Well, I see you holding your nose and going “Bud I dode sbell annydig!”

And that's why I'm so fond of you, LaLee. I'm sure you still believe in Santa Claus, too.

As for how you “want world peace,” that's nice. I want your Mulignane Messiah's head in a basket of melons.

Neither of us might get what we want, but there's a certain nobility in the striving, isn't there?


Tuci78
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 5:15 am

Ooh, looka the Obamaphile froth at the mouth!

Given that I consider your Moolie Mahdi numbered among “the enemies of the United States of America,” and that he's NOT “the lawfully elected POTUS” (which is what we're discussing here, right, Matty?), I'd say that the presumption of treason is to be voiced far more convincingly with regard to the guy posting as “Matt Taylor,” wouldn't you?

As I've said above, Matty-bubchen, why don't you specify any “lie” I might've voiced in these exchanges? We learn by having our mistakes pointed out, y'know.

And what do you know of my “poor morals,” anyway? You've been talking to my wife? I swear, that blond had a cinder in her eye, and I was only helping her work it out of the conjunctival sac….


James Padgett
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 5:15 am

It should be no surprise that Obama is coming against the new Honduran government…which FOLLOWED the HONDURAN CONSTITUTION in removing Zelaya when he clearly violated the country's constitution by his insistence on a referendum that would be a precursor to an election to allow the president to serve more than a single term (trying to do in Honduras what Hugie Chavez baby did in Venezuela. Both the Supreme Court and the Congress of Honduras ruled against Zelaya's attempted referendum..but Zelaya got the ballots anyway and was going to go forward with the vote. That is when the Supreme Court ordered him arrested. Obama is a socialist himself…and so would like to see Honduras move into a socialist direction. Furthermore, Obama clearly violated the US constitution when he ran for president, knowing he did not meet the requirements as listed in the constitutiion. Constitutions don't mean much to Fraudbama..be it here in the US or in Honduras


LaLee
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 6:09 am

Actually i never believe in Santa Claus, though i do like the presents.

“And no matter how you perseverate (Sic) , LaLee, your Messiah's “natural-born” status is exquisitely pertinent to his qualifications.”

And Obama is still POTUS no matter what you said or “perseverate” /Sarcasm.


LaLee
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 6:16 am

Hey James, can you tell me which part of Constitution has been violated when he ran for president?

Because The 14th Amendment of US constitution ACTUALLY SUPPORTs Obama's status as NBC as proven by SCOTUS decision on “United States V Wong Kim Ark.”

And his status as NBC has been proven by his COLB (Regardless whether or not you believe its authenticity) which states his place of birth as HONOLULU.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 6:16 am

Like I said, he's “POTUS” until the federal marshals come for him.

Hm. Remember that scene toward the close of *The Shawshank Redemption*?

I wonder if he'll sit behind the Resolute desk with a revolver and blow his brains out while they're breaking down the door?

Nah. Barry's a “gun control” clown. He wouldn't have a pistol tucked away in his desk drawer, would he?

But I wouldn't mind numbering that among MY “presents,” LaLee.

Not at all.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 6:23 am

Oops, one more thing. Scratch out that “(Sic),” LaLee. The term “perseverate” is correctly spelled.

Look it up, why don'tcha? You're on the Web, right?


LaLee
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 6:53 am

Hey if believing that makes you feel better then that's fine by me after all Obama is still POTUS no matter what you said or believe.

Oh BTW the right spelling is “persevere.”


Tuci78
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 7:03 am

Nope. It's “perseverate.” Just because you lack a vocabulary more sophisticated than that of the sorts of J-school jerkwads running FactCheck doesn't mean that the language doesn't incorporate terms which are valid, correctly used in this context, and convey meaning despite your obduracy and unwillingness to pop open another window on your Web browser and look the goddam thing up.

Sheesh. Obamaphiles. “Hire the handicapped….”

And, like I said, he's farting into that big, comfortable chair in the Oval Office until they come for him with the manacles.

After that, I'm sure he'll be delighted to receive your fan letters. I figure you'll be addressing them to him in Marion, Ohio.


jollyroger
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 1:04 pm

The Klanservatives are absolutely frothing at the mouth over the dirty “turrist” (read: dark-skinned) President. They aren't going to ever accept it, and there is no way to mke them accept it. Several generations of inbreeding have left them unable to connect the dots and figure out how utterly stupid this is.


Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 3:00 pm

Your opinion of Barack Obama is worthless. Much like you as a person are worthless. Again you argue you that your being too stupid to comprehend the reality and fact that Obama is the lawfully elected POTUS means that it doesn't count.

He is legal and you are nothing more than a typical genetically defective Klanservative, pissed that you had to come out from underneath your robes and stop burning crosses to lie about Obama.

You want to know what you have lied about? Basically every single statement you have made on this website except for any references to his name being “Obama”.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 10:24 pm

Yet again argumentum ad hominem (first paragraph), unsupported assertions (first, second, and third paragraphs), uninventive invective (ditto), factual content zero.

Grade “F,” Matty-bubchen.

Not got a brain in your teensy, pointy little head, have you?

Again, if Mr. Soetoro was not born in these United States, he was not qualified to run for the presidency, and therefore his election and inauguration were not valid, and his is culpable of the criminal usurpation of a public office which he knew (the legal term is “criminal mens rea”) he could not lawfully hold.

Beyond that, there's all the rest of his personal background he has “sealed” in much the way Al Capone tried to “seal” his business records.

Of course, the difference between criminal Al Capone and criminal Barry Soetoro is that the latter quit being a private citizen the moment became an elected officer of the civil government, and effectively turned his life into an open book when he announced his candidacy for the presidential nomination.

And calling him “Barry Soetoro” just chaps your ass all to hellangone, doesn't it, Matty-boy? Jeez, how nice.


Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 21, 2009 @ 12:32 am

Actually for it to be an ad hom it would have to be untrue.

Calling you worthless is a statement of fact, not an attack.

Again, if you had a functioning brain and were properly educated you would be qualified to make comments about POTUS Barack Obama.

You claim I have not supported anything. You argued that pointing out your lies is not demonstrating that you lied. But then you are also on record stating that you being too stupid to comprehend reality means that reality doesn't count.

Face facts, Barack Obama is the lawfully elected POTUS. If you deny it you are a traitor to the country and deserve to be treated as much, to the FULLEST extent of the law.


Tuci78
Comment posted July 21, 2009 @ 2:42 am

Aw, Matty, you really don't know dick about fallacies of logic, do you?

Your bloating would qualify as argumentum ad hominem even if you were able to find out nasty things about me and state them truthfully BECAUSE an attack on the person or character or qualifications of the individual voicing a proposition, absent a direct address refuting the substance of that proposition, does nothing to validate the attack.

The proposition under attack stands, because the dimwit plopping his pud into that puddle of argumentum ad hominem hasn't done doo-dah to knock it – the proposition – down.

You never did debate in high school, didja, Matty-boy? Probably not in the “dummies” curriculum….

Pshaw, you don' t even know what a supported argument, is, do you? You're on the Web, Matty. Even though Wikipedia isn't the most reliable source, you sure as hell could look something up there, couldn't you? You'd like Wikipedia, Matty. They're all butt-sucking Obamaphiles over there, just like you.

And again and again and again, if Barry Soetoro can't demonstrate that he was qualified to run for the presidency in the first place (and thus far, he hasn't), then he wasn't “lawfully elected,” and you're just plain SOL.


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stephenperry
Comment posted July 23, 2009 @ 11:06 am

Birthers are racist.

For those who say birthers aren't racist, I present here a few quotes from Randwulf. They all appeared on one 109 post thread. I haven't bothered to look at any of his racist comments made in other threads, like the one with 2,869 comments. If you fuss about it someone will compile a master list including comments from others as well, and prove you that much MORE wrong.

Oh, and he also gives away birther philosophy. So this is a Birther Rosetta Stone. Every other word after this sentence is a direct quote of Randwulf, and the last quote is a nod to Florida Christian, so enjoy!

“I think he is an Indonesian wetback, an illegal alien in every sense of the word.” [posted twice on same thread, days apart]

“Monkeys are experts on where to find nuts. Aren't they ALFTURD?”

“Monkeyf@cker.”

“Yes like when you call me a “racist”. Turnabout is fair play MONKEYF@CK!”

“But, its all good. Laugh away. Eat bananas and fling pooh! The monkeys can never run the zoo for very long before more advanced primates must move back in, hose down all the $hit and restore order. Looking forward to that!!”

“Wack-a-doodle? Hmm is that some new kind of mongrel breed or something? Why don't you guys run one of them for office! Oh and this time, make sure he has all his records, so we don't have to go through all this again.”

“I don't remember mentioning race at all, so it is you “making it clear” that I must harbor “racist” sentiments.”

“Man have I got a list of who's been naughty and who's been nice. Got ammo?”

[Birther Philosophy revealed below!]

“Whatever they have, we want to see it. We won't stop until we have it. Argument over it is pointless. The original documents will tell all. And then we will go for all the rest of the documents that he refuses to release.”

[Florida Christian Alert!]

“This whole sick episode would have been laid to rest long ago if…”


gmsnowball
Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:54 pm

You can't intimmadate an idiot and Taitz is nothing short of an idiot….as a matter of fact there is a village looking for her as we speak….they lost her a few weeks ago…… I can't wait for the egg to hit the face of the igit birthers………


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JOHN WALSH
Comment posted May 30, 2010 @ 11:07 pm

WHAT IS WRONG WITH OBAMA ? HE HAS SENT NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS TO THE MEXIICAN BORDER WITH NO BULLETS FOR THEIR WEAPONS. NOW THEY WILL BE IN DANGER FROM THE DRUG CARTELS WHO NOT ONLY HAVE AUTOMATIC WEAPONS, BUT ALSO HAVE ROCKETS THAT CAN BE MUCH MORE DESTRUCTIVE. SO WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER DOWN AT THE BORDER WITH THE NATIONAL, GIVE THEM YOUR PRAYERS, THEY WILL NEED THEM WITH THIS GUY AS OUR PRESIDENT.


JOHN WALSH
Comment posted May 30, 2010 @ 11:10 pm

DID ANYONE EVER THINK THAT SOME OF THOSE ILLEGAL MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS MIGHT BE HOMESIC…? WHY NOT OFFER FREE ONE WAY BUS TRANSPORTATION TO MEXICO TO ANY OF THEM THAT REQUEST IT…?


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