Birther Soldier Fired From His Civilian Defense Contracting Job

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 at 3:00 pm

That’s according to Orly Taitz, the attorney for Maj. Stefan F. Cook. A day after he made news for asking not to be sent to Afghanistan unless President Barack Obama provided more proof of his American citizenship, Cook has been fired from his job. In Taitz’s application for injuction, she recounts what happened after the Department of Defense revoked its request to Cook.

Plaintiff Major Cook called his civilian boss, the CEO of Simtech, Inc… The CEO of Simtech, Inc., Larry Grice, explained to Plaintiff over a series of four conversations within the next two hours, that he had been terminated.  Grice told the Plaintiff that he would no longer be welcome in his former position at SOCOM but that Grice wanted to see whether he could find something within the company (Simtech, Inc.) for Cook.  The upshot was that at this time Grice did not have anything for Plaintiff to do.  Grice told Plaintiff, in essence, that the situation had become “nutty and crazy”, and that Plaintiff would no longer be able to work at his old position.

I’ve asked Cook to confirm all of this.

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Comment posted July 15, 2009 @ 8:01 pm

Stefan Frederick Cook is a true hero.

We need they other 2 million in the military to take a stand too.

Mainstream American Moderate
Comment posted July 15, 2009 @ 8:55 pm

I'd do the same to any employee who started ranting about flying saucers or the Loch Ness monster or alien abduction.

The far right wing radicals have to understand that if they act like nut cases, normal people are going to treat them like nut cases.

Ryan C
Comment posted July 15, 2009 @ 9:31 pm

How about confirming with Larry Grice as well.

Comment posted July 15, 2009 @ 9:49 pm

Major Cook volunteers for active duty then files a lawsuit when orders are cut for him to go. What a flake. He and this Orly Taitz person deserve each other.

Comment posted July 15, 2009 @ 10:28 pm

Nutty and crazy would be an accurate description. How can you employ a person who thinks that your business is illegitimate?

Comment posted July 15, 2009 @ 10:49 pm

If Cook submitted a request on May 8, 2009 volunteering to serve one year in Afghanistan, then why does he now claim he doesn't want to go? Wasn't Obama President back on May 8th when he volunteered?

Or was this whole thing a “Birther” setup from the beginning?

Comment posted July 15, 2009 @ 11:41 pm

Are you crazy oldvirginia? Could you imagine if all our military personal disobeyed orders to deploy at a time Amrica was Attacked? No hero every disobeys a given order in the military. Thousands died so you and he could be free! It's been the way of the military for centuries and you just say forget the rules, don't obey your commander, and forget it's congress who ok's their deployment——because you don't believe a guys birth certificate that has been authenticated by the experts of this country. I hope he's quartered, drawn and court martialed, as all cowards are!

Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 12:52 am

jupitor, there is a genuine question whether BO was born as a “natural born citizen.” Our soldiers died so that we who follow would be free to act in the light of the conscience God gave us. If Cook swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, then he has both a right and a duty to question the legality of the orders directing him to go, fight, and kill the enemies of our country. Do you remember the excuse of the Germans at Nuremberg? Just following orders? BULL. No man or woman has a duty to follow illegal orders. This country was founded by a group of rebels who wouldn't even obey a legitimate King George when his orders became illegitimate, but you would have Cook break his oath, defile his conscience, and play the lackey to whoever happens to stroll into the White House?

Now Hear This: BO is only permitted to function as the president if he is in fact eligible to be the president under the Constitution. The short form birth certificate you refer to offers no legal assurance that he is a natural born U.S. citizen. BO's sister Maya has a nearly identical document, asserting her birth in Honolulu, but she was born in Jakarta, Indonesia. Go figure. The documents thus far offered are cheesy window-dressing sufficient only to satisfy a legally uninformed and emotionally driven populace. No one of any intellectual depth is taking them seriously, once they brave the chill waters and ask the question. Take all that wholesome energy you're directing at Major Cook and use it to study the legal question in depth, for yourself. You are an American, and you too have a duty to uphold the Constitution that shelters you from third-world dictatorships. If you, and enough others like you, fail in your duty, we all will suffer. Don't let us down. Do your duty.

Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 2:51 am


There is a difference between someone being foolish enough to ask the question and whether the question has ANY validity at all.

Don't mistake being too stupid to comprehend the most blatantly obvious examples of facts and reality with there being any validity to the foolish accusations about Obama.

Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 2:55 am

Um, whatever. I thought the Constitution was still important. My mistake. ;)

Chad S
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:02 am

Multiple federal courts and SCOTUS have reviewed the Birthers' lawsuits. They've dismissed them all since they're without merit(because the state of Hawaii has confirmed his birth in Hawaii and no birther has presented any shred of valid evidence to question that at all). Obama is a natural born citizen. The Constitution hasn't been violated.

I'm sorry the candidate you wanted to win didn't become President, but thats no excuse to push the dumbfuckery you are.

Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:09 am

On the presented birth certificate, why does it say Obama's father's race is African?

Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:37 am

The COTUS is important, your inability to comprehend reality and accept the facts isn't a violation of the constitution.

Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:38 am

The only “stand” Cook will be taking will be the witness stand in his court martial for refusing lawful orders.

Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:53 am

Most of the suits are problematic on the question of standing, not the merits, as you suggest, so the constitutional merits have simply not been addressed. As a rule, people cannot sue as taxpayers or voters over results they don't like. The Taitz family of cases is different, being rather well grounded in direct injury to the plaintiffs, such as Keyes as presidential candidate, and the military cases in particular, because the very specific potential injury to a military plaintiff does establish standing. The Cook case, BTW, I believe will be the first where the judge is actually going to look at the constitutional merits. Thus, whether the constitution has been violated remains an open question. Can you define “natural born citizen?”

As for evidence, our problem is the absence of O's evidence, not the presence of some smoking conspiracy gun. There have been serious questions raised about unusual properties of the posted images of the short form, but that is not at all central to the case, except for the issue of possible fraud. No, the real question is citizenship. BO told us he was under British jurisdiction at the time of his birth, due to his dad. SCOTUS has yet to declare whether such a birth qualifies as natural born, but the history of the term suggests it would fail, due to the lack of undivided, undiluted citizenship of both parents, or at a minimum the father. These are real problems, and I am sorry if they disturb you, but the Constitution is important, and these issues should be addressed.

Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:03 am

Don't confuse your inability to accept reality with there being validity to your delusions.

<<<our problem is the absence of O's evidence>>>

You are the one making the slanderous charge, its not his responsibility to disprove your lies.

<<<There have been serious questions raised about unusual properties of the posted images of the short form,>>>

There have been no LEGITIMATE questions raised about the forms at all.

<<<SCOTUS has yet to declare whether such a birth qualifies as natural born>>>

If that were truly an issue it would have been impossible for ANYONE to have legitimately been president for nearly a century after our country took office. Virtually all our presidents had parents who were not born US citizens or only some of their parents were citizens at the time of their birth.

Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:13 am

Gag. You are sadly misinformed. O presents the most clearly defined presidential citizenship question in U.S. history. See the following link for a record of the natural born citizen status of the vast majority of presidents following the period of the founding:…

Oh, but as you are deeply into denial, I will not hold it against you if you cannot bring yourself to acquire the facts necessary to back your assertions. It is what I expect from the left. I would think though you would get tired of all that sand in your ears.

Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:31 am

ROFL a freeper article from an anti american blog.

Wow if that doesn't scream “unbiased” than nothing does.

I realize it kills you to have to stop burning crosses and come from underneath your hood to repeat your baseless slander, but too bad.

Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:41 am

I like Free Republic. So sue me. As for burning crosses, do you really believe that nonsense, or are you just saying it to impress your friends with how tough you are? I am a Christian. I don't burn crosses. We could be friendly about this. Just a thought. Or do you have a need to destroy people you disagree with?

BTW, legally, truth is a defense to the charge slander, so it's not slander if it's true. Since no court has adjudicated the truthfulness of O's citizenship or lack of it, the question remains open and the charge of slander remains unproven.

Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:04 am


Did you like it as much when they were posting about how Michelle Obama makes “monkey sounds” to amuse her children?

Did you like it as much when they had people threatening Obama's family with death?

Did you like it as much when your freeper compatriots were responding to a picture of an eleven year old girl by asking “When do you think she will get her first abortion?” or calling her “ghetto trash”?


The more desperate people are to use that argument the less likely it is it accurately applies.

<<We could be friendly about this. >>

That would give the veneer of legitimacy to your easily disproven lies. People repeating those delusions want to pretend that just because they spouted this idiotic conspiracy theory that it somehow deserves to be discussed.

<<<Since no court has adjudicated the truthfulness of O's citizenship or lack of it,>>>

Quite the contrary, every single plaintiff making your argument has LOST their case.

Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:26 am

Well, as to cases, it took Edison a thousand or so tries before he found the right filament for the light bulb, so I'm not too shook up by a few hundred attempts. The cases that are failing are going down because of standing, a notoriously difficult hurdle in constitutional cases with a diffuse class of plaintiffs. These procedural failures do not dispose of the merits. They merely postpone consideration of them. You do know we are making headway with a federal judge in CA who is actually going to hear the case on its merits? I'd hate to think you were behind the information curve. It would be so disillusioning.

As for trying to be friendly, I consider that a prerequisite of my faith. If you do not hold that view, that is up to you. I have to say though, I never heard a more twisted rationalization for irrational non-communication.

As for Free Republic, they have trolls too. The regulars are respectable folk. I have never seen the ugly comments to which you refer, so I can't comment, except to say that what you have “quoted” without source would be reprehensible to both myself and the regulars at Free Republic. I thought libs didn't like guilt by association. Wasn't that the whole Bill Ayers defense? Confused again …

As for lies, a person must intentionally say what they believe to be untrue in order to lie. I have not done that. I believe in what I am saying. Believe what you will. You will anyway.

Going home now. It's late. Bye.

Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:37 am

Cross burners are Christians. As was Eric Rudolph, and Tim McVeigh.

Come up with a better defense for your insanity.

Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:54 am

So now your argument is that even though you are repeating something that has been proven untrue to the satisfaction of every sane and rational person in the country that its not a lie because you believe your own version of reality?

You are saying something untrue, that makes you a liar, whatever you attempt to justify your lies with don't change that fact.

You claim that the well documented examples constitute “trolls”. If so why did Free Republic pull the page for reviews but then PUT IT BACK UP WITHOUT ANY CHANGES OR REMOVED COMMENTS?

The only reasonable conclusion is that Free Republic itself supported the threats against the lives of the Obama family.

Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 6:07 am

I think all birthers are closet racists, looking for any excuse to defame Obama. Obama is an Amrican citizen. This is a fact. His BC has been verified by the State of Hawaii and pictures of the real BC have been distributed on the web (complete with signature and raised seal). Springfield reformer says that until it goes to court the question remains open. Well, maybe the reason it has not gone to adjudication is that no one has been able to produce the sightest shred of evidence to support their racist claims.

Besides, if the case did go to court and the case was lost the right wing would just blame it on some liberal judge. Springfield reformer goes on at length about TRUTH but wouldn't admit to the truth if it bit him on the ass.

Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 12:38 pm

President Obama's mother was an American citizen, making President Obama a naturally born citizen regardless of where he was born.
The state of Hawaii has provide 'a certificate of live birth' to the public, the same kind of birth certificate we all obtain when we request a copy of out birth certificate, states do not release the 'long' form.
The state of Hawaii has allowed the conservative World Net Daily to inspect the long form and the World Net Daily has confirmed the certificate is valid.
The original birth announcement in the Hawaiian newspaper has also been dug up by several researchers.
Under the logic imposed by many so called 'birthers', John McCain would also be ineligible because we was born in a US Military instillation in Panama, which would be a United States territory but NOT American soil.

Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 12:41 pm

because he was.

This was Hawaii, not Alabama.

Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 12:47 pm

Maj. Cook, a reservist, volunteered to go to on active duty and serve in Afghanistan on May 8, 2009, according to Lt. Col. Maria Quon, an Army Public Affairs Officer at the Army’s Human Resource Command in St. Louis. Maj. Cook’s orders were publish on June 9, 2009 and according to Lt. Col Quon. Cook himself could have requested that his orders be cancelled at any time prior to entering active duty. Lt. Col. Quon stressed that Maj. Cook did not need to seek a court order to avoid going on active duty or serving in Afghanistan since he had requested to serve voluntarily and was not being forced to deploy.

Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 2:28 pm

Maj. Cook is an opportunist of the worst sort. Now after falling on a grenade for the lunatic right wing fringe, he will get his reward. A lifetime of paid Joe the Plumber appearances anywhere the right can gather 10 toothless racist freeptards for a Klan meeting or teabagger show.

Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 2:41 pm

Nahh, thats too obvious.

Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:27 pm

Free Republic has since yanked the article used here. The original source was pulled.

Maybe that's a sign it's a non-issue?

Joe in Texas
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:27 pm

Good. There is no room for traitorous or stupid people in the military reservists. Maybe he can get a job being a legal assistant (with no legal experience) to his lawyer who got her law degree from an online university.

Bald Eagle
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 8:13 pm

Hey Chad S. Does the S stand for STUPID. Does the S stand for SCHMUCK! Oh I know the S stands for SLIBERAL!!! How easy it is to project a Billy Bad Ass persona behind a keyboard. With pride I am a Tradationalist ,Conservative.Any disrespect shown to you is due to your uncalled for disrespect to Springfieldreformer.

Comment posted July 17, 2009 @ 3:47 am

Maj Cook is a Four Star Chicken! What a loser! He has shamed the uniform.

Comment posted July 17, 2009 @ 11:07 am

What you are saying is that we should abandon our efforts in Afghanastan so that the right wing-nuts can score a point of two? So much for the validity of the so called “war on terror” brought to us by the same wing-nuts. And so much for their proclaimed patriotism. This is disghusting.

Comment posted July 17, 2009 @ 1:59 pm

Not Really. The US installation in the Panama Canal Zone was not equipped with a Maternity ward so McCain's Mother had to be transported to a Panamanian Civilian hospital to give brith

Comment posted July 17, 2009 @ 5:12 pm

I'm with you completely, SpringfieldReformer. While there's little sense arguing with political extremists who willfully refuse to dig beneath the veneer, your well reasoned comments are certainly going to be appreciated by other rational, thinking Americans who might visit these boards.

It was not long ago that Democrats believed it was supremely patriotic to question their government (during the Bush years), and rightly so. How quickly (and expediently) they lost their way.

Fortunately, the majority of Americans polled believe Obama needs to address this question. So, unless America itself is insane, rest assured, you're among the majority who remain rational and cogitative and who still question the veracity of their leadership. Words have always been cheap, but this president has cheapened them all the more.

So don't be deterred from continuing to question. You are a great American.

Veritas Vos Liberabit.

Comment posted July 17, 2009 @ 5:16 pm

I should note, here's a wonderful legal resource for those who still are willing to examine and question the eligibility issue:

Comment posted July 17, 2009 @ 5:17 pm

Just to note, here's a link to a wonderful legal resource for all those willing to examine and question the eligibility issue:

Comment posted July 17, 2009 @ 6:18 pm

By “wonderful legal resource” I assume you mean the disjointed parts about the Constitution and not the parts where this “problem” is God's will for the way the country has been run… The person who runs that site may not be crazy but they're close enough that you can see crazy from where they are.

Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 17, 2009 @ 7:31 pm

Yes because free blogs are always known as the last bastion of unvarnished truth and to date there has never been a recorded instance of something on a blog being wrong.

Comment posted July 17, 2009 @ 8:34 pm

Name, that isn't true. Barack Obama would not be a naturally born citizen of the United States “regardless of where he was born.”

Under Sec. 301 (a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, the act in effect at the time of his birth, the following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(7) “a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided that any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may be included in computing the physical presence requirements of this paragraph.”

This proviso in this act does not apply to Barack Obama, because his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama, was not yet 19 years of age at the time of his birth, so she had not been physically present for a period of not less than five years after attaining age 14. If he was born in Kenya, as his grandmother was recorded as saying, then he is not eligible for US citizenship. That is the whole crux of the matter here. If he was born in Hawaii then it's a moot point. If he was born in Kenya then he is not eligible to be President and we have a major problem.

Comment posted July 17, 2009 @ 9:44 pm

He deserves every bit of bad luck that comes his way. Some things are just fanatacism

Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 3:12 am

What can you say ? Americans are dumb !!

Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 3:12 am

What can you say ? Americans are dumb !!

Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 1:52 pm

Here's what you guys are missing. Cook sought status as a conscientious objector in his filing with the court. A CO can't hold a security clearance. The moment he filed, he lost his clearance. He was assigned to JSOC, the Joint Special Operations Command. Everyone – nearly everyone – at JSOC has some level of clearance. No clearance, no JSOC, no orders. He lost his civilian job as a DoD contractor for the same reason. It required a clearance.

Comment posted July 19, 2009 @ 4:38 pm

President Obama need to just show his birth certificate. He is already destroying this country.
Good Luck to you Major Cook.

Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 19, 2009 @ 5:09 pm

You mean other than the one that has
a) Been available for over a year
b) been certified by the state of Hawaii
c) has been certified by EVERY qualified expert to examine it
d) has been backed up by announcements in the hawaii state newspapers

When you say “proof” do you mean to YOUR satisfaction or to the satisfaction of someone with a functioning brain?

Comment posted July 20, 2009 @ 7:52 pm

I do not think you are correct about any inspecting the vault birth records that the State of Hawaii is holding. If you have a confirmation of that fact please post it. The issue is the vault records are the only source that would confirm Obama's statement that he was born in a hospital in Hawaii. Due to rampant immigration fraud in the 1960's the vault records are the only source for that information. Obama could release this information easily but refuses to do so.

Comment posted July 21, 2009 @ 7:00 pm

Dear Matt:

I guess you don't realize that at the time of Obama's birth anyone, with Hawaiian residential status, could register a birth no matter where the child was born in the world. A child could be born in Norway and the birth could still be “registered” or certified in Hawaii if the parents, mother or father, had a Hawaiian address. Further, to be “Natural Born” both parents must be US Citizens. Obama does not meet our Constitutional requirements. He DID meet Hawaiian requirements at the time of his birth even if he was born in Kenya.

Hawaiian law states:

[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

Matt Taylor
Comment posted July 21, 2009 @ 7:22 pm

I guess you are too stupid to realize that the requirements to constitute “proof”.

Face facts, you are a proven liar and a joke to anyone who is sane.

Comment posted July 21, 2009 @ 11:35 pm

Hello Matt,

Your use of vocabulary is quite intriguing. People like yourself, who have the potential of being intelligent, typically resort to the use of such condescending terminology/syntax, whenever their emotions override their ability to produce a rebuttal of factual evidence. The questioning of Obama's citizenship should neither enrage nor frustrate you, but should rather, have you asking yourself could such an oversight have occurred? I mean, after all, some crimes and cover-ups have been made easier in today's day and age. Take Bernard Madoff for instance. Why did it take his stealing 150 billion dollars to raise a red flag? Do you know how many banks he would have had to physically rob to get his hands on the equivalent of those funds just 50 years ago? His problem then wouldn't have been just locating all the banks and manpower for stealing the money, but it would have also been storing the money after it was stolen. Why did it take so long to uncover his crime. Shouldn't the flags have been raised after 100 million dollar mark? Probably not because today's technology and advancements have made some crimes much easier.

So why would the possibility of Obama's lack natural-born citizenship be so hard to imagine. I have learned one thing, in today's society many things may not appear as they seem but such important issues such as Obama's true citizenship usually do not raise questions with so many people unless there is some sort of substance to it. You can fool some people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Major Cook stuck his neck out as our forefathers did, for a purpose, to try to have questions answered. If you go back in history and read how the Constitution was developed and structured he deserves credit for standing up for what he believes.

Take President Bush for example, I may have voted for him in the beginning but look at all the crap he pulled over the American publics' eyes. These men (politicians in general) belong to a club that will do whatever it takes to impose its will and power over people like you and me. When Obama refuses to show any document from his past except for the one dated in 2007, something seems a little strange. Although he may have a birth certificate from Hawaii, it does not mean that he was NOT born outside the U.S. and therefore is not truly qualified for the office of the Presidency.

In the Resolution “recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III is a natural born citizen”…. He was found to be natural born because BOTH parents were Citizens of the U.S. Barrack Obama sat on that committee. He has only one parent from the U.S. According to the Constitution he can not serve as president. Do we bypass the Constitution or selectively throw parts of it out? These questions need to be answered.

If you read John Toland's account of Adolf Hitler, you find he had a compassionate and charismatic side. He was popular until almost the end of WWII. When Roosevelt died and Truman took the United States presidency Hitler re-convinced Germany they would win. He was believed by most because of his charisma. I voted for Obama but now believe it was a mistake. When he went to Europe and wouldn't even visit the soldiers graves who freed Europe and us, turned my stomach and spoke volumes about his true political stance. I hope you will take some time and research it yourself rather than just having a gut feeling.

Comment posted July 28, 2009 @ 11:42 pm

I guess the igits (birthers) don't think very much of the republican party as there is no way in hell they would let President Obama slide on this issue. It's funny so many think they know what the constitution requires of the President when the Supreme Court has not ruled on the issue.

Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 5:33 am

Major Cook. The same Major Cook who is evidently so hot to get rid of Obama that he (1) emailed Taitz in February asking to join her lawsuit, (2) volunteered for duty in Afghanistan in May, (3) filed a lawsuit 8 days before he would have been sent there because he was so “afraid” that he might be following illegal orders.

This nutjob is the guy you wish luck to?


As I see it, if you contrive a situation to create a publicity stunt and claim a “win” just because you're a sore loser, using the military you so love in the process, you get what you deserve.

He's out on his ass. He got what he deserves.

Comment posted August 7, 2009 @ 5:37 am

That's nice.

However, it doesn't explain why his parents would go to so much trouble to have his birth recorded in _two_newspapers_ as having taken place in a Hawaiian hospital.

But I suppose it's all part of an evil, decades-long plot to put him in the White House, right?

I am quietly enjoying a good laugh at your expense right now.

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