House ‘Birther Bill’ Up to Nine Co-Sponsors

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Wednesday, July 15, 2009 at 11:06 am

Rep. Bill Posey’s (R-Fla.) bill that would change campaign law to demand proof of citizenship from presidential candidates is up to nine co-sponsors. Since June, Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.), Rep. Kenny Marchant (R-Texas), and Rep. Ted Poe (R-Texas) have added their names to the list.

Burton is an ironic recruit to the cause. In the 1990s, he earned the nickname “Watermelon Dan” for his innumerable conspiracy theories about President Bill Clinton; he once ushered reporters into his backyard to watch him shoot a watermelon as a way of proving that Vince Foster’s death could not have been a suicide. And with the addition of the new Texas co-sponsors, a full quarter of the state’s 20-member Republican delegation to Congress is now backing the Posey bill.

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129 Comments

larryziegler
Comment posted July 15, 2009 @ 3:43 pm

ASSHOLES!!!!!


strangely_enough
Comment posted July 15, 2009 @ 4:08 pm

Tell me what company you keep and I'll tell you what you are. -Cervantes


zak44
Comment posted July 15, 2009 @ 9:43 pm

Let's make a deal:

You show us Bush's military records, we'll show you Obama's birth certifcate.


jackything
Comment posted July 15, 2009 @ 11:07 pm

More ridiculous, time-wasting, “Hey ma, look at me” rethug bullshit. Texas? Go figure. Who woulda thunk it?


pb
Comment posted July 15, 2009 @ 11:28 pm

How is Burton an _ironic_ recruit to this cause?
More like “entirely predictable recruit, no?


Tata10
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 1:03 am

you know, you guys can sponsor all the birther bills you want — the fact is, the President will continue to be a black male.


Anonymous
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:01 pm

Doesn’t matter who pays for what the truth is the truth about the difference in certificates.

You are fun enough Peachy, just don’t throw the racist thing around so easily.

I am paying myself to write all day. I will be docking my pay this week too.


TPierce
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 2:05 pm

There are so many clowns in the Congressional circus that they're going to have to get a bus. Even a clown car won't fit them all.


Danton
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 2:14 pm

Well said.


kevdog
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 2:26 pm

Burton's inclusion isn't ironic, it was predestined. People just don't get irony anymore. I blame Alanis Morrisette.


karinjr
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 2:31 pm

(Pendant Alert!)

Ironic means something is the opposite of what you would expect. Burton's presence on the list of signatories is exactly what you would expect. Thus it is the opposite of Ironic. Sorry.


Becky Park
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 2:32 pm

Why didn't the Republicans question John McCain's birth in the country of Panama? Oh, that's right, Republicans wherever they are born are automatically U.S. citizens! Forget that Grandpa and Daddy McCain were admirals in the U.S. Navy!!!!


Matty101
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 2:37 pm

Traitorous, treasonous slime – the flaking dead skin off the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, Malkin, et al…the same people who wanted to shoot Iraq War protesters in the streets.

Why do Texans Hate America so much???


edfranklin
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 2:38 pm

It's the usual wacko, right wing of the Republican party. Why, oh why, do Richard Luger and others of his more moderate leanings take a leadership role in repositioning the party so it does not constantly come off as full of Texas wackos. This is what keeps many of us moderates from ever supporting the party. It so easy to see why we are failing….


Bill O'Sullivan
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 2:58 pm

Excellent idea!

And let there be another law to demand proof of sanity from congressional candidates — especially, but not limited to, those from Texas.

Bill O'S


salvaterra
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 2:59 pm

McCain was born on a military base which is considered American soil, which still makes him eligible. Don't you liberals know anything??


salvaterra
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:04 pm

Right because if you question the president and want the Constitution to be upheld you are a racist. Very well articulated race baiting.


Falan Darin
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:07 pm

Have any of you even bothered to do any research or have you simply made up your mind out of ignorance? I thought I would investigate before I posted and I think they are on the right track. Just my informed opinion though.


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:26 pm

Didn't the GOP want to change the constitution so the FOREIGN BORN governor of California could run for president??? Austria is where Hitler was born right?

Bunch of hypocrites. You Republicans need to get on back to your extra-marital affairs and stop wasting our tax dollars on more crap like this 'birther bill'.


Name
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:26 pm

Ms. Park, McCain's eligibility was questioned in Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz. The case went to the SCOTUS. Application was denied 12/15/08.

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a…


jz1
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:28 pm

Here's what I don't get. Let's suppose Obama wasn't born in America. If it's so obvious to all these folks on the internet (let alone a handful of reps), why didn't we hear a peep from any of Obama's opponents? That would mean that the GOP had to have gone along with the ruse, refraining from challenging his eligibility at ANY POINT during the campaign? No one associated with McCain's campaign, or the RNC, or a governor, or rep or senator challenged this at all. They were perfectly happy to allow a “socialist” who “palled around with terrorists” — a man many clearly believed would wreck this country — to cruise to victory. Why? I'm not seeing the connection. And that's not even getting into what Hillary's people would've done had they anything on this. Does anyone really think she would let the singular goal of her life flit away just like that? In order to buy the birther line, you've got to be willing to launch into a whole series of conspiracy theories that ultimately make the right's Clinton paranoia of the '90s look like a child's birthday party. I'm just not seeing it.


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:32 pm

So anyone born to an American woman anyplace outside of the US is NOT a citizen in your book?


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:35 pm

Again, didn't the GOP want to change the constitution so the Austrian (like Hitler) Swartzenegger could be president????

Won't someone answer?


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:36 pm

AMEN! Surely someplace in all that illegal wiretapping and all we can get some information on why Bush refused his service to the USA in wartime. Could it be he didn't want to have to take pee tests????


salvaterra
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:38 pm

Anyone born on United States soil is a natural born citizen, this includes embassies and military bases abroad. That is the law of the land, it is not my law. If you don't like it take it up with your congressman.


salvaterra
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:39 pm

I'll answer. No.


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:43 pm

Sal honey, you might want to check your answer. You got a 0 on the test.

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA), who was born in Austria, has endorsed a challenge to this clause. Last year, Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) introduced a bill that would change the Constitution to allow anyone who has lived in America for at least twenty years to run for the Presidency. Earlier this year, at a meeting of the National Governor's Association in Washington, Schwarzenegger was quoted as saying, “that there's no reason why not [to allow a person with at least twenty years United States residency to run for President].”

http://www.rawstory.com/exclusives/bevin/schwar…

I guess you can use that standard GOP answer “I don't recall”. Thank goodness for video tape and the internet.


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:48 pm

So then if you came out of an American birth canal on foreign soil, you are not an American? You didn't answer my question. I already know that anyone born on American soil is an American. LOL

C'mon Sally…. you can do better than that.

If you MOTHER is an American citizen, are you NOT an American citizen if you are not born on American soil?


Jarz
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:55 pm

Here's my conspiracy theory: Obama is purposefully keeping this issue alive (by not insisting that HI release an original copy of the BC), thus making his far-right opposition look even stupider, paranoid and xenophobic than they already do. It's not like the truthers would ever support him anyway–this way they waste their energies pursuing a false lead.

I like to think Bill Clinton is kicking himself: “If only I had let them keep thinking I killed Vince Foster! They might never have bothered following up on Paula Jones!”


salvaterra
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 3:57 pm

One Senator introduced a bill that got no traction. Wow you really got me there. How do you know it was intended for Arnold to run??

The GOP is responsible for the bill in this story which now has 9 endorsers and will likely grow from all the attention it is getting from Maj. Cook. This is what upholds the intention of the founders as stated in the Constitution and repeated in the article you link to.


salvaterra
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:00 pm

You are certainly not a natural born citizen.

Obama came from Kenyan sperm does that mean he is a natural born Kenyan citizen? No, the possibility that he was born on Kenyan soil is what would make him a Kenyan citizen, Peachy.


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:03 pm

The LAW of the land disagrees with your racist opinion.

http://foreignborn.com/visas_imm/start_here/4bi…

A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent in wedlock acquires U.S. citizenship at birth, provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law.

Maybe President Swartzenegger can fix that for you (like he's fixed kaleeefornia).


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:08 pm

Yes. Just more of that 'gotcha' stuff aimed at you good right wingers isn't it?

The truth hurts I bet. Maybe your party needs to go back to the ideas of death squads and illegal wiretapping.

I wonder, if Sanford's Argentine concubine (it's BIBLICALLY OK!!!) has a baby in Buenos Aires will he claim it?


salvaterra
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:14 pm

The page you link to says “A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent in wedlock acquires U.S. citizenship at birth, provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law.”

Notice physically present.

The page also lists the requirements of reporting the birth to establish citizenship. He should be easily able to prove they did this if in fact they did it properly.

In my experience the person who is so quick to call another a racist without any evidence is actually the one who is the racist.


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:14 pm

Didn't the Governator have a prime time slot at the GOP convention because they thought he'd be W's successor? That bill had a good bit of support in 2004, just not a big enough majority. Stop pretending that it was just one guy and it 'never went anyplace'. It was well supported by the GOP. And now you think someone born to an American woman is not an American, but someone who's been here 20 years is??? I think Obama's been here 20 years. At least. LOL

Btw… how's California doing under Arnold? Any better than under Gray Davis?


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:18 pm

Read your posts. There's the evidence you seek.

And by 'physically present' it means they had to LIVE in the US for a certain amount of time. I assume the mother lived in the US at least 18 years with her parents? Or are you saying they are not Americans either?
It doesn't mean 'physically present' in the US when giving birth. You didn't do well in the 'reading for comprehension' group hm?

And if you look at Snopes.com, you'll see that your blowing smoke. There IS a birth certificate. But if this is what you want to focus on feel free.

I agree with the other poster who said if this WAS a REAL issue? The Clinton machine would have ground up Obama back in 07 and Hillary would be President.

Suck it up Sal. We suffered thru your dictator for 8 years. Where is your outrage that he refused to produce his military service documents?


salvaterra
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:19 pm

No it's a feeble attempt on your part to change the subject because you know that Obama should be easily able to prove that he is a citizen. At least Arnold didn't lie and withhold information.

I don't care about Arnold, I would not vote for him, and I don't care about Sanford, I would vote for him. What I care about is that the Constitution is uphheld and defended from lunatics like you who would rewrite to suit their own ideals.


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:30 pm

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:31 pm

Fair enough.

Here you go. The birth certificate which has been available since 2008. You think Hillary and Bill didn't look for ANYTHING to stop Obama?????

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polari…


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:32 pm

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polari…


Mcw7w6
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:32 pm

Kinda like 6 years ago when we either supported the Iraq war or we were soft on terrorism or hated America.


salvaterra
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:35 pm

You should do some reading yourself. US Law states “…the parent who is a citizen must have been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of the child in order for the child to be a national and a citizen of the United States at birth.”

http://www.answers.com/topic/citizen

Not to mention that in order for Obama to be considered a citizen his one citizen parent would have had to reside in the US for a period of 10 years, 5 of which she would have to be 16 or older for. Obama's mother was 18 when she had him.

If Obama was truly a natural citizen at birth, he could easily prove it and quite his critics. He has either chosen not to do it, or he cannot do it.

And didn't Dan Rather already produce some of Bush's military docs?? Oh wait a minute…


salvaterra
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:35 pm

You should do some reading yourself. US Law states “…the parent who is a citizen must have been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of the child in order for the child to be a national and a citizen of the United States at birth.”

http://www.answers.com/topic/citizen

Not to mention that in order for Obama to be considered a citizen his one citizen parent would have had to reside in the US for a period of 10 years, 5 of which she would have to be 16 or older for. Obama's mother was 18 when she had him.

If Obama was truly a natural citizen at birth, he could easily prove it and quite his critics. He has either chosen not to do it, or he cannot do it.

And didn't Dan Rather already produce some of Bush's military docs?? Oh wait a minute…


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:37 pm

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polari…


toddbo
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:38 pm

McCain's parents were in Panama on military assignment. Both my daughter were born overseas while I served (Greece and England) and both are US citizens. This may be the stupidest discussion line – applied to both McCain and Obama – that I have ever heard. Shut up.


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:39 pm

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polari…

Speaking of residency, Cheney quickly moved BACK to Wyoming so he could be President with Bush, right? I mean VICE President.

There's your birth certificate. Print it out. Put it in a frame. Send it to your friends in Texas. Or did they move to Wyoming too? LOL


salvaterra
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:40 pm

Again, you need to do the reading here. His certificate of live is not the same thing as a birth certificate and certainly does not prove natural born citizenship: http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/BirthCe…


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:40 pm

Yes…. 'shut up' is what America is founded on isn't it?
You can always stop reading these comments. Or can you? LOL


toddbo
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:41 pm

Don't you think the election commissions have reviewed this? I have no idea how, based on your selected quote, you come up with 10 years, but that doesn't matter. By the way, answers.com isn't a source for anything, let alone the law.

Is this the best you can do? Comical.


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:44 pm

That's weird, I thought you wanted a birth certificate.

So really you just want Obama out of office.

Can't y'all tell the truth ONCE???

MY SC birth certificate is a 'certificate of live birth'. Is your Texas one different?

And since we are on 'natural' birth here, are kids born by C section not a 'natural' birth in the US? Since that isn't the way God intended for them to come out?

I admit, you are fun. :-D


salvaterra
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:47 pm

Just read the page I linked to a couple more times. Eventually it will get through and you will understand the difference.

I would be having fun too if ACORN was paying my bills so I could comment on websites all day.


Jilli
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:49 pm

If this were true don't you think it would have been publicized by now? He was vetted profusely.

Birthers are bigots and bitter folks that don't like to see a black man in the white house. There's no other excuse for refusing to see documentation thats clearly in your face. Not bigots or bitter folks? Ok, complete morons. And folks who started this are laughing at all those that still believe this nonsense – some folks are just gullible enough to believe anything.


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:50 pm

“At PolitiFact.com, we're all about original sources. We don't take anyone at their word or take the reporting of other media organizations as proof. We go to the heart of the story, the source of the truth — original, corroborating documents.

When the official documents were questioned, we went looking for more answers. We circled back to the Department of Health, had a newsroom colleague bring in her own Hawaii birth certificate to see if it looks the same (it's identical).”

Wow. So ALL Hawaiian birth certificates are fakes??????


skipfoss
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:52 pm

I for one am glad that someone has decided to bring this forward this subject,I don't beleive that it crazy or a political game this half breed was not born in the US he is a British subject born in Kenya ,his colledge apps show that he was here as a forgein student ,he traveled on a African visa to countries that would not except an American visa. The Dems tried to prove that McCain was not elligable to run until he showed proof that he was a US citizen why should Ovomit not be required to show proof,and I don't mean some fake forgery of a Hawaian peice of paper,he should be required to show ALL documents


Jarz
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:53 pm

Hey ImpeachSanford, you don't need to convince me, or anyone else who isn't blinded by Obama-hate. But–as far as I know/remember; I haven't kept up on my trutherism–the truthers argue that what has been released is only an official copy of the original (true) which is in fact clearly a forgery (false), and that the only way to clear this up is if HI releases the original. HI has declined, saying that doing so is against state law/policy. Obama has not pushed HI to do so anyway. I have no idea if he has any power to do so, but the truthers seem to think so, so they take this as evidence he's hiding something, and keep at it, wasting their energies. Hence my (semi-serious) theory.


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:55 pm

I did read your page. The GOP pays for that page, right? Check out PolitiFact.com

Or don't. Your mind is made up no matter what facts are presented. Just focus on 2012 when you can try to convince us that Palin will be just as good a president as Bush was!

Gotta go… thanks for the chatter. it was fun!

And well… SOMEONE must be paying your bills, cuz here you are commenting on websites all day huh? Or are you at 'work' taking their money while you play online?

I've been unemployed for over a year, no thanks to my Governor who is too busy screwing, vacationing and cancelling meetings with businesses that want to expand here in SC.


salvaterra
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:56 pm

To quote a great conservative leader, “Here's the sound of me shutting up….Screw You!!”


mkevinf
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:57 pm

where did you research whatever you researched? Did you petition the state of Hawaii for a copy of the birth certificate? It is a matter of public record after all, isn't it?


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 4:58 pm

Amen!!! Sad that 'patriotism' was hijacked by dictators and liars.


ImpeachSanford
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:00 pm

That sounds exactly right for the party of Morals and Family Values!!!!

Isn't Jesus proud?


Uncle Sam
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:01 pm

Dear Skipfoss,

Somewhere a Neanderthal village is missing its idiot. Go home son.

Sincerely,
Uncle Sam


skipfoss
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:05 pm

I am not a bigot nor bitter but I do beleive that he should be required as McCain was to provide proof of his citezenship .The peice of paper he has shown is not a birth certificate it is a cetificate of live birth and for you retards that is not proof of where he was born,read your own birth certificate this thing does not provide a third of the offical information. Also his transcripts show that he was enrolled as a forgein student of British citizenship. thes half breed is not an American He is a muslim educated fake that has more names than John Dillenger


Guest
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:06 pm

That's not true. The statement that embassies and military bases abroad are considered “U.S. soil” is in fact a shorthand for a far more complex political and legal reality that stems from diplomatic immunity.

Embassies and bases are granted extraterritorial status, which means the host country relinquishes, and the guest country accepts, the rights AND the responsibilities for administration, keeping the peace, and law enforcement–embassy and base staff are expected to obey the laws of the host country except where it directly conflicts with their duties (that means you can't smoke marijuana in the Dutch embassy in the US). It is NOT actually a part of guest country's home territory. You do not need a passport or a visa to enter the Saudi Arabian embassy, and foreign nationals working in a US embassy abroad do not pay US income tax.

Likewise, being born in a US embassy is not the same thing as being born in the US itself; if it were, you'd have pregnant women in third-world countries everywhere contriving to sneak into US diplomatic facilities as they went into labor. But it's not, so they don't bother.


skipfoss
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:18 pm

You have evidently not been paying attention to those news papers (which are few) that have covered this story there are several suits in several states that have asked for proof. There is one Judge in California that is getting ready to conveen a Federal grad jury investigation ,It has already cost Ovomit 80,000.00 to try to keep his school records concealed. And there have no changes in the constituion to let a non American to hold an office in the Federal government ,they can be a govenor or some state officer but not federal


skipfoss
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:21 pm

Yes they should investigate sanity for Vice-president Gaff


Democritus
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:34 pm

The one name I would've expected on that list is missing. Where's “Crazy” Michelle Bachmann? Or is she only able to tilt at one windmill at a time?


skipfoss
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:38 pm

I am Home the one I spent three years defending and you can kiss my WHITE ass> The only village missing an idiot is the one where that half breed son of a white trash whore was born


gtra1n
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:39 pm

“Ironic” does not mean what you think it means! Burton is more an iconic signatory, why would it be surprising that he would support a crazy conspiracy-theory bill? Hopefully, this will get amended so that anyone running for Congress has to prove the same, then they can all squeal.


skipfoss
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 5:46 pm

Don't call me son . Any one that has no more since than you apear to have could not come close to being the man my father was Ihope that some one will take the half breed out by what evermeans he as no right to the office that stolen for him by the Builderberg group,Soros and the Muslim Nations that all support him he would just as soon sell us out to them as he would to raise taxes on the so called rich. And as I said the only village missing an idiot is in Kenya where his brother has a mud hut waiting for him


lynnmcdaniel
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 7:57 pm

When this is all laid to rest and the “birther” dill weeds have egg on their faces perhaps then the people who run against them can use this against them in a campaign so I say let them go, let them set theirselves us to be knocked down and be shown to be the idiots they truly have become while they hoist there selves with their own petard! Use it to remove them from office. I know I will get out and hit the streets and use this to remove the ones in my state who have wasted time on this idiocy! Instead of sevoting time to the economy and war? They don't deserve the pay checks they are drawing. The losers lost in November and instead of figuring out why? and making changes that could help people? They are spending time on this….and they wonder why the drain looks so close for the GOP.


Brian Griffin
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 8:32 pm

“It's not a birth certificate it is a cetificate of live birth” (!)

and that Obama announcement in the Honolulu paper in 1961 was all part of the conspiracy because he's really 75 years old and put it there himself, see, and William Ayers really wrote his book, and his dad was actually Malcolm X, and he chose that name because everybody knows people with muslim names have it easier in politics than us english-named people, and one day someone will find that whitey tape, and his mom was not really from Kansas she's English or Russian or something, and the GOP was in on it too because McCain's really from Panama, and and… (head explodes)

Sorry dude, but the “half-breed” comment gives away your real problem with the guy. We actually allow mixed-race citizens here in the US today, and one's the president. The world changed. Get over it.


Brian Griffin
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 8:33 pm

f. t. w.


Brian Griffin
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 8:39 pm

McCain was born in Panama to American mom . Obama in Hawaii to an American mom.

I think the point they must be trying to make is that no one that ran for president in 08 was qualified for office and they want a do-over.


washingtonindependent
Comment posted July 16, 2009 @ 8:47 pm

Please continue this lively debate, but note that we will not tolerate profanity or derogatory racial terms. Comments containing these terms have been removed from this page.


Anonymous
Comment posted July 17, 2009 @ 3:22 pm

I’m not even sure if they had drug testing in the military back then, especially in the national guard. Occam’s Razor suggests it was raw cowardice — the war mongers want to *run* the war, not sacrifice for it.


Earthling
Comment posted July 18, 2009 @ 4:11 pm

When 34 have signed on, the 8% will match the 8% in the polls that have shown their lack of understanding the Constitution and the requirements to be POTUS, This bill will go nowhere except into the trash barrel of history.


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pedant
Comment posted July 21, 2009 @ 7:50 pm

I hate to be pedantic, but it's the exact opposite of ironic that Dan Burton is supporting birther legislation. Irony, “an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected” Burton being nuts is about as unironic as you can get


Gus
Comment posted July 21, 2009 @ 8:38 pm

Proof that Obama was born in Kenya! http://slicedbreadtwo.com/images/uploads/COLMKB…


FemmeKat
Comment posted July 21, 2009 @ 9:13 pm

What you wrote does not address in anyway what jz1 was asking.

Why would Hillary, whose “singular goal of her life” to be President was slipping from her grasp, not use the “OBAMA IS NOT A “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, AND THEREFORE CANNOT RUN FOR THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES” argument?

And what about McCain?

If not those two, then surely THE PEOPLE RUNNING THEIR CAMPAIGNS or some of their MANY PROMINENT SUPPORTERS would have been spreading “The Word” and doing everything within their power to force this alleged issue BEFORE THE ELECTION.

But it's just too dang easy to dismiss logic in the minds of those who want to believe he is not legitimate.

And where did you come up with the $80k figure that President Obama supposedly has spent to conceal his school records?

The problem with most of the Birthers is that they take ANYTHING that ANYONE writes on their blog and that supports their “Theories of Conspiracy and Coverup” as PROOF.

Please start using your BRAINS, people!


PumpJack_x
Comment posted July 22, 2009 @ 2:21 am

Don't forget the Oklahoma wackos… I have a nephew that sends me all this “birther” junk. I have emailed him the link to the “Certificate of Live Birth”… he claims it's not the same as the “Original Birth Certificate”.

I point out to him “When a live birth is registered in a State all they can do is give a Certificate of Live Birth”. When you buy a new car you don't get a “Title” you get a “Manufacture's Statement of Origin”… when you register the car in a State that creates a title….. sorry but that's just how it is.

Case closed…. we elected a black man with a Muslim father. Life goes on.


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[...] In March, Representative Bill Posey (R-Florida) introduced a bill to force all candidates for presidential office to provide proof of citizenship before starting their campaign.  He claims this has absolutely nothing to do with the “Obama-birth-certificate-conspiracy” but all Americans over the age of five realize that his bill is a direct response to these ridiculous allegations.  Now…despite lawsuit after lawsuit being thrown out of court for being frivolous, more legislators have signed on to the bill.  Nine of them. [...]


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[...] , Might As Well Laugh , The Other Florida , Weird Stuff , politics Leave a Comment House ‘Birther Bill’ Up to Nine Co-Sponsors | The Washington Independent Rep. Bill Posey’s (R-Fla.) bill that would change campaign law to demand proof of citizenship [...]


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