Comments on: Stuff That’s Missing From the Inspectors General Report on Warrantless Surveillance

By: anon

anon — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:49:41 +0000

You're missing the point about the il/legal stuff (para 3). If you are taken (arrested?) for this stuff you are held w/o any lawful justification.
You're held, not in jail, but in a place like gitmo, and the 'evidence' is used to hold you there w/o a true trial or recourse to the ''justice' system.

The point of the illegality is just to hold/torture you, not to do so legally/lawfully/constitionally.
And if all this fails, the 'authorities' can just produce a quantity of some controlled substance.

Only two kinds of laws are specifically prohibited in the constitution: ex-post facto and bills of attainder. Everyone knows about the first, almost no one about the second. Thus does our ignorance keep us in thrall.

By: RedGraham

RedGraham — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:55:06 +0000

This sounds like a job for Obama's Federal Police Force. Who really cares about drug gangs, illegal immigrants, ACORN and Moslem terrorists when the real problems are those anti-abortion, pro-gun, homophobic evangelicals. The Vigilant Eagle program is kept very busy identifying military veterans who are sticking to their guns & religion. Amazingly this is the same group targeted to work for Homeland Security and soon Obama's Storm Troopers.

By: wiggidy

wiggidy — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:45:45 +0000

Kudos to those of us who helped bring CIA & NSA abuses of power to light. This is a quality of life issue for all of us. It is my belief that some of the abuses of NSA & CIA intelligence technology involves more than just data mining, warrantless wiretapping and email surveillance. The intelligence community won't talk about synthetic telepathy, remote mind control technology, or the testing and use of military developed electromagnetic weapons by NSA Domestic Intelligence. Checkout http://www.freewebs.com/wiggidy

By: This is a Conference Call « One Utah

This is a Conference Call « One Utah — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:27:03 +0000

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By: neonnautilus

neonnautilus — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:53:42 +0000

Thank you for clearing that up.

By: spencerackerman

spencerackerman — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:36:48 +0000

You're right. There have been well-grounded suspicions and reportorial accounts — check out Jim Risen's “State of War,” for instance — about the “PSP” including data-mining and other far-reaching surveillance activities beyond the so-called Terrorist Surveillance Program. But what we haven't ever had is official government confirmation that these activities took place. We still don't have total confirmation/refutation of the substance of that, as the report uses the euphemistic term “Other Government Activities” to describe everything that isn't TSP in the PSP. But we have way more than we did before Friday in that regard.

By: Herbert_Browne

Herbert_Browne — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:34:17 +0000

Thanks for the “exclusive means” quote. (For some reason it occurred to me, on reading “Fruit of the Poisoned Tree”, that PSP also stands for “Paralytic Shellfish Poisoning”…) ^..^

By: jeronimodan

jeronimodan — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:38:00 +0000

The way this government is treating its citizens, it will be but a short time before we're shaking hands with the illegals swimming north, while we swim south!

When you have people like Bush/Cheney and their whole administration still free, with no prosecution in sight…is scary.

By: Read All About It In the Sunday Papers: Constitution-Shredding Edition

Read All About It In the Sunday Papers: Constitution-Shredding Edition — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:42:54 +0000

[...] best reportorial digging and analysis is taking place elsewhere. One of the best, Spencer Ackerman, spells out what is missing from the reports, and why what’s missing is every bit as important …. Some great grist for the legalistic mills of the Esq.’s among us. El Somnambulo would love [...]

By: paintred

paintred — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:57:26 +0000

Now when everybody your neigboor your Xhusband anyone,can get information about your bank account and who you talk to and have you stalkt and harasst for free,because TSA/Business/Residental/Contracters can do what ever they want to I was told they have plenty of money and time.This is a open field for Appartments buildings,for them to make cash money.I can go on and on why because I'm a vitume the ript my life appart.I have always been a leagal permanent citezen,escapet for my life.came back.and now I'm a citezen.What do I do now,I have nothing left