Mike Scheuer Explains His ‘Attack’ Comments

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Wednesday, July 01, 2009 at 3:04 pm

Mike Scheuer’s Google Alerts must be going crazy after his Glenn Beck appearance, because he left this message in the comment thread on my earlier post:

Spencer, What I tried to say on FOX last night is what I said in my last two books. I believe that our governing elite has a single foreign policy vis. the Muslim World and that it has no contact points with reality. Americans are therefore very inadequately protected. I increasingly believe that our leaders’ perception of the threat and attempts to defeat it are verging on the feckless, and that most Americans — concerned with the economy, raising families, and quite insular in any event — do not recognize the poor job leaders in both parties are doing in defending their country, homes, and family. I am afraid that another, greater-than-9/11 attack will occur — because our leaders see the world that they want to be and not the one on offer — and that only then will Americans starkly see what I believe is unconscionable failure of the federal goverment to put their safety first. My bottom line is that there will be another attack because the Republicans and Democrats are abject incompetents and because our current economic state is too good a chance for bin Laden not to try to push forward al-Qaeda’s “bleed America to bankruptcy” strategey . Far from wishing for another attack, I trust that Churchill’s judgment that God looks out for drunks and the United States of America still holds good and and we remain safe. God better do the job, because no one in our elite is doing it.

Respectfully, Mike Scheuer

It’s true that in Mike’s second book, Imperial Hubris (I haven’t yet read his most recent one), he warned of attacks if the U.S. didn’t radically change its Middle East strategy. I think a fair representation of his prescriptive argument in Imperial Hubris is that the U.S. needed to significantly disengage politically and militarily from the region before it found itself drawn into a war that could only be won through extreme and overwhelming violence. But speaking more generally, it’s not the most persuasive argument that a terrorist attack will vindicate your contentions, even if the intention is merely to call attention to certain dangers. I have to say I am still unsure from Mike’s post and from his Glenn Beck appearance — which dealt mostly with border security, but rambled tremendously — what these dangers actually are in his eyes.

One more thing. Back in the 1990s and early 2000s at CIA, Scheuer was no fan of White House counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke. But Clarke famously wrote to the Bush administration on September 4, 2001 in frustration with the turgid pace of counterterrorism strategization that policymakers would “imagine a day after a terrorist attack, with hundreds of Americans dead at home and abroad, and ask themselves what they could have done earlier.” Did that mean Clarke was wishing for a terrorist attack? I don’t mean to adjudicate this dispute or apologize for Scheuer, but that seems like relevant context.

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cainashe
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 8:10 pm

Spencer, I've repeatedly listened to what Mike said on Glenn's program & in my honest opinion, you & Mike are only compounding the problem. There's no justification for what Mike said…no matter how you try spinning it. In short, the best & simplest thing to do here is to apologize, no need to complicate the issue.


cathiefromcanada
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 8:27 pm

Anybody who appears on Glen Beck's show and who finds himself babbling like a looneytune can't complain afterward when he is assumed to be a looneytune.


NewsCorpse
Comment posted July 1, 2009 @ 10:01 pm

First of all, how does Scheuer's comment excuse the statement that “the only chance we have as a country right now is for Osama bin Laden to deploy and detonate a major weapon in the United States.” ?

Secondly, how do you know the comment is really from Scheuer? The screen name “Longstreet” is not associated with him, so far as I can tell. Also, it is the first and only comment by this user of DisQus. Did Scheuer create an account solely to respond to your posting? And if so, why would he invent a screen name while still signing his real name at the bottom? I think you might want to get some sort of verification of Longstreet's identity.


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lolana
Comment posted July 2, 2009 @ 2:01 am

Yeah….wonder how you could verify the identity…but I agree with these guys…nothing the poster said makes what he said on Beck's show make any more sense to me at all.

In fact the person speaking on the TV seems crazy to me.

course, lots of people on TV seem crazy to me which is why I don't own one. If I did, my perception of the world would be significantly darker. TV makes people passive and terrified that the “real” world is happening somewhere else—not at the precise physical location where they are sitting. it's a scary technology on a number of levels, then you get people saying stuff like this, and it's just like, god, turn it off.

thanks for posting this.


brendanm
Comment posted July 2, 2009 @ 6:34 am

So, Micheal Scheuer is little more than a deranged Paultard? He thinks a nuclear attack by al Qaeda will cause Americans to embrace libertarianism? That is pretty disappointing and more than a little pathetic.

I am curious as to why he would not make his points about the disastrous results of neoconservative/interventionist policies to one of their most passionate (batshit insane) advocates, Glenn Beck, rather than just fuel his torture fetishism and the paranoid, vitriolic, and bigoted hate for Obama shared by Beck and much of the far right (which occasionally ends in violence). I am also curious as to why Scheuer seems unaware of or, as is more likely, dismissive of the signs of desperation and even panic from anti-American regimes and groups, including al Qaeda and the Iranians, that are resulting from President Obama's outreach and new tone, such as the speech in Cairo (http://www.jihadica.com/obama-is-more-dangerous…), Changing international dynamics seems more important than violating international law and human rights, as much as that appeals to both Scheuer and the neocons, allied in hate and bloodlust if not ideology.

Also, it appears as though Scheuer threw in the towel and gave up defending his virtually indefensible delusions in the last thread. If true, is this representative of the intellectual quality of those in the CIA whose job is to protect us? Are these people able to be defeated in debate with random internet commenters so easily?

Inquiring minds want to know.


NewsCorpse
Comment posted July 2, 2009 @ 8:35 am

Spencer, I don't see how you can equate Clarke's comments with Scheuer's.

Clarke warned that we would regret not taking necessary, available steps to prevent an attack. He, therefore, believed that there were measures we could take to preserve our safety. Scheuer believes that an attack on us by Bin Laden is “our only chance.” That short of that we are doomed.

It seems to me that what Clarke said is the exact opposite of what Scheuer said.


Kilo
Comment posted July 2, 2009 @ 12:38 pm

“Did that mean Clarke was wishing for a terrorist attack?”

This is irrelevant.
Again, if the unit Clarke ran, while he personally instituted a mistrust and rivalry with the FBI, was identified by anyone and everyone who has assessed 9/11 as the single glaring reason why the plot wasn't prevented when it easily could have been, then a comparison of these two men and their respective culpability for terrorist attacks on the US may be warranted.
But you're not talking about that.

You're instead talking about comments he made on Fox about a theoretical attack as though this has merit in assessing his character, when the actual 9/11 apparently has none.


snaveca
Comment posted July 3, 2009 @ 4:43 am

Oh but you ARE adjucating and apologing for Scheuer.

I must have missed it when Richard Clarke made that statement on TELEVISION on the most nutty left wing show in 2001 (if one existed).

And there's a huge difference between “imagine a day after a terrorist attack…and ask themselves what they could have done earlier” and “the only chance we have as a country right now is for Osama Bin Laden to deploy and detonate a major weapon in the United States.” So why in the world is Clarke's statement remotely relevant?

Really, nice try Mr. Ackerman. But no cigar.


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larrys
Comment posted July 6, 2009 @ 4:06 pm

No, Clarke said his comment the RIGHT WAY. If Scheuer had said his comment like Clark did, it would have been received well. Besides, the fact that Osama is still out there is a slap in the face to Scheuer. Scheuer was the man in charge of the Bin Laden unit whose job it was to CAPTURE him. Why is he he even mentioning Bin Laden? He's still free because of Scheuer! Personally, I think OBL is dead and he's been used as a government boogeyman ever since.


larrys
Comment posted July 6, 2009 @ 4:11 pm

Excellent point!!!


larrys
Comment posted July 6, 2009 @ 4:13 pm

Why are you saying “deranged Paultard”??? When did Ron Paul ever utter anything even CLOSE to what Scheuer said??? When???


larrys
Comment posted July 6, 2009 @ 4:18 pm

Great great point! I can see it now…..”I dont want no one to know who I really am, so my screen name will be “Dr. X”………signed “Bob Jenkins”…..lol!!!


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brendanm
Comment posted July 7, 2009 @ 4:43 pm

Well, his entire philosophy is pretty deranged, but the point of the phrase is that Scheuer is a “Paultard” who is “deranged,” not that Ron Paul or his supporters are necessarily deranged (although they are). Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything along the lines of hoping for a mass-casualty event in a large American city from the Dr. Congressman, but I'll get back to you.


stefan7
Comment posted July 13, 2009 @ 4:12 pm

For one, I fully understand what Scheuer was trying to say and totally agree with him also. He was also interviewed on this at antiwar.com
The ridiculous assumptions made here are so laughable, if it was not so serious. Scheuer is saying a foreign-policy of non-interventionism is the only real thing that will make the US safer. Paul has also said – like Cheney – that the US is now more vulnerable and at higher risk than before, but for different reasons. Scheuer and Paul see clearly based on the blowback reality (it is not a theory, but simply reality if you put ourself in the shoes of others) that the US is more vulnerable now because of no retreat in Iraq and expansion of the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Obama's Cairo speech only bought some time…they will look at his actions and if he continues the Af-Pak war (0and possibly attack another country (Iran, Syria etc.)) the Wahabi Muslims would be able to recruit a lot of people and prepare for a major attack on the US. The torturing is going on in Afghanistan and the US MSM is not reporting on it, and not criticizing it.

Scheuer knows full well what these people are planning and could be planning and he probably has info that they plan to invade the US via the Southern border – that is not protected -, with only a few people and massive explosives, or it could also be with bioweapons etc. etc. and then a major attack can take place. Scheuer has no partypolitical agenda with this. He gave Clinton 8-10 times chance to take out Osama Bin laden, yet Clinton did nothing. So larrys you are totally WRONG about blaming OBL's not captured or killed on Scheuer!, you should blame both Clinton and Bush for that. Under Bush there was one chance at Tora Bora, yet Bush stopped that short and went on to attack Iraq. Scheuer resigned as he became so fed up with the incompetancy and naivity of both Clinton and Bush. He was and will always be strong against the neocons and interventionists in BOTH parties.

He does not even describe himself as a libertarian, so I do not know how brendanm can say he wants an attack with a political ideal in mind. Americans may ambrace libertarianism out of the failings of the economic interventions rather. Scheuer's sole role is that of security, and he is saying you have to defend and guard yourself in any case, and all the more if you do not stop the intervention!


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