Comments on: Oklahoma Republicans Ready to Blame the Recession on ‘Debauchery’

By: Kayla

Kayla — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:40:26 +0000

Listen, Tim, go re-read the excerpt, and then reformulate your argument to actually address what the “Proclamation” is saying. Go re-read Atlas Shrugged, while you're at it, because you've clearly misinterpreted it, too – it's all about rationality and responsibility, dear Tim, two of the things most blatantly ignored by blaming economic problems on a “moral crisis.” There's nothing here saying anything about Obama, Left-Wingers, Democrats, Government Regulation, Liberal Whiners, Left-Wing Sheep, or anything else you address. What it does proclaim is religious dogma, and the behaviors religious dogma defines to be “debauchery” (same-sex marriage, abortion, and divorce, among other more legitimately classified immoral behaviors).

Allow me to introduce myself… I am a libertarian (which is the political leaning that true intellectual absorption of Ayn Rand will lead you to, not right-wingerism or whatever it is you subscribe to), an atheist, and a Good Person. I am a moral, upstanding, tax-paying member of society, who contributes to our economy and whose lifestyle hurts no one and helps many. There are many, many more people just like me. We do NOT need religion to have a moral society. We do NOT need Christianity (or Christians) to have a stable economy. The author of this logically appalling piece of intolerance believes that our recent economic decline is caused by a lack of observation of the Christian faith; it is stated plainly.

It is repulsive to those of us who base our upstanding, moral lives on the logical values of respect for our planet and our fellow humans, that someone with any degree of lawmaking power can actually bring these assumptions and accusations to the political table. Religious dogma, clearly demonstrated here by referring to Prayer, biblical admonitions, and some imagined “rich Christian heritage,” has no place whatsoever in the public policy of a rational nation, whose people are constitutionally protected from being governed by religion (that's in the first Amendment, in case you need to read that one again, too).

By: Brett

Brett — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:17:07 +0000

I sware the Christian fundamentalists are just as scary as the extreme Islamists. Thank God these people are losing power fast in our country… I'll be damned if this nation ever turns into a Theocracy. And has the author of this legislation ever studied US history? Every undergrad college student knows that 80% of our founding fathers were Deists, NOT Christians. Look it up.

By: Tim

Tim — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:55:10 +0000

What's sad is that our media is too stupid to realize that these Republicans are absolutely right. I personally couldn't care less about the religion aspect (yes, a right winger without god), but without morality we will be left with nothing. Just because you don't agree with religion doesn't mean you can't take the good from it. Being ignorant to the good ideals religion can bring makes you just as bad as the people who try to push it on you. We have people commenting here that are so brainwashed they actually think Democrats and Mr. Obama want you to be peace loving and free, when in reality they want nothing more than to control you (more and more regulation). I could go on, or you could just go read Atlas Shrugged, unless you're too scared… Think for yourself, be an individual, not a sheep

By: ADT

ADT — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:54:37 +0000

Blaming our economic woes on “our greater national moral crisis” or our president actually doing something instead of praying in the correct way to your security blanket, while totaly ignoring the more obvious lack of over site and unfettered greed acrossed most levels of society sounds pretty insane to me and a lot of people both christian and self responsible people. While the issues mentioned in the resolution may in some cases lead to problems, our current economic woes are not one of them. “There has been a lot of tornadoes in Oklahoma lately; I wonder what they are doing to piss of god so much” Sounds kind of insane, doesn't it?

By: Stephanie Syvlester

Stephanie Syvlester — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:06:22 +0000

Sally Kern makes me proud that I have lived here since I moved here from Texas years ago.

By: Stephanie Syvlester

Stephanie Syvlester — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:04:21 +0000

So once again you dismiss someone(the Oklahoma Republicans) you disagree with as being insane. that's a pretty dangerous posture, isn't it? “wingnuttery”? where do you live, the petri dish for obsessive/compulsive political correctness? I'm so tired of ad hominem attacks because you don't want to deal with the issues. argue the issues, that's all you get to do.

By: cynthiaschmitt

cynthiaschmitt — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:50:24 +0000

This is absolutely devoid of intelligence and information based on reality. We have got to put an end to these religious fanatics fantasy land antics. Since they believe that “God”, is giving them the power, it is time for Oklahoman's to stand up and stop this ridiculous charade of loss of reality. She, Sally Kern, is obviously not fit mentally to be involved in making decisions for Oklahoma (or even her own family members, maybe even her own life). This has gone past a matter of opinion about God or morality. She is teetering on the ledge of insanity, and I would hate for Oklahoma too fall off the ledge with her and her cohorts.

By: Here comes Sally again …

Here comes Sally again … — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:35:22 +0000

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By: B.K.

B.K. — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:52:37 +0000

Sally Kern makes me ashamed that I once lived in Oklahoma.

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