Comments on: Reflections on a Sunday at Palin’s Church

By: mta

mta — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:49:31 +0000

Having attended Wasilla Bible Church a few times I will tell you that the service you attended was normal. Larry Kroon is a normal person, if you met him in Walmart…(do DC reporters ever go to Walmart?), you would think he was just buying his ammo for his moose hunt like anyone else.

Actually his church is a very reasonable church where people study the bible, don't speak in tongues, but like to tell others about Jesus.

By: David in VA

David in VA — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:18:30 +0000

Sarah's affiliation with AIP

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/palin-...

By: mta

mta — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 05:49:31 +0000

Actually his church is a very reasonable church where people study the bible, don't speak in tongues, but like to tell others about Jesus.

By: David in VA

David in VA — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:18:30 +0000

Sarah's affiliation with AIP

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/palin-...

By: bacalove

bacalove — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:46:20 +0000

I love that, this country was not founded on Religion but a Freedom from Religion. Amen! Kay Buchanan said on CNN or one of them about Palin, “She is one of us”. So is it us vs. we again. Exclusion vs. inclusion? Barack stated so poignantly in 2004 that we are not red states or blue states but the United States. We have to keep sounding that message, may be it will hit home.

By: Meredith Ensign

Meredith Ensign — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:09:02 +0000

George Bush holds the same beliefs about the Rapture as this church, as do many Fundamentalist church members; however, many of these members do not believe in bringing it about through their efforts politically. They are taught that their citizenship is in heaven and they are to live out their lives as an example,trying to be like Christ in their treatment of the government as an entity and the people your neighbors. I know many of these people and they are appalled at the radical , non biblical views espoused by Bush, Palin etc. These people are like Paul who was persecuting the Christians as a Jew, which is why he was struck down by God and virtually blinded. True believers that believe the bible is the actual word of God believe that their only purpose is to present unbelievers with the bible's plan of salvation ONLY and to show others by their deeds, words and daily lives that they are like others except for the intervention of the “blood of Christ” and trying to live with the Mind of Christ. They would do nothing politically to try to bring the Rapture closer other than this, as they know that is not their purpose to bring in the Rapture, as they do not have the perfect mind of Christ. They look forward to the Rapture while at the same time want to have as much time as possible to bring as many people to salvation as possible. They do not believe in speaking in tongues, dominion theology, all of the wild stuff you see in the on-line videos of these churches. If you study the New Testament, there are all kinds of passages that talk about the false practices of these churches. There is only one church and it is made up of believers from every denomination that count on the “blood of Christ to cover their sins” and one way you can discern false prophets is clearly described in the New Testament.
I spent 20 years in a church like this and studied everything about it. I still ended up rejecting it all as it falls short of what is humanly possible. I believe Jesus existed but think he was deeply misunderstood because others could not get past their previous beliefs so mixed their prior beliefs into what he said and then added a whole lot of rules, ceremonies etc to make it look good. That does not mean organized churches are bad, only people can be bad, and if you watch what a person does and says every day anyone can identify them, they are just “bad apples” and a reasonable society will reject their actions outright. Joining and belonging to a group doesn't make you right it just means you believe in a similar way OR you want others to perceive you in that way. Sometimes decency and right is on top and sometimes, subterfuge and deceit is on top.
This country was not founded on religion but on freedom from religion by “reasonable men and women” who came together to form a more perfect union (of ideas) for people who wished to be able to pursue their own individual beliefs. Unfortunately, when the deceitful and nefarious people get too much of the upper hand it becomes harder to get stability and reasonableness back and you end up with psychoses like Stalinism, Leninism, Hitlerism and right now Republicanism.
This reasonableness is what Barack Obama is appealing to in people's mind and hearts and that is why he is appealing to so many people. So now it is up to the American people to choose what they want, more Bushism or more of what the people that came here fought so hard to achieve in our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution, which with following McCain/Palin will only erode that Independence for every individual in a terrible way.

By: mommadona

mommadona — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:28:35 +0000

Nice try.

Had their Best Sunday Dress-face on, eh?

Love to see what they had to say about Christian Dominionism and the separation of Church and State.

Thank you for the effort

By: RayL

RayL — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:07:20 +0000

There are many credible reports of Sarah Palin's church's fervent belief in a pending Rapture as told in the New Testament book of Revelation. *Since many evangelicals actually want to see Armageddon in their lifetimes, this could have nightmarish implications for U.S. foreign policy if she were ever to become President.* This story must not be ignored. It needs to be headline news.

By: bacalove

bacalove — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:02:03 +0000

Why would the GOP Party and Senator McCain nominiate someone for Vice President who once belonged or had affiliations with a group who wants to secede from the United States and whose motto is put Alaskan First! The Alaskan Independence Party (AIP)! And what does that tell you about the Republican Party that Sarah Palin, a heartbeat away from the Presidency believes in her heart, Put Alaska First?

Sarah Palin who could possibly be our next Vice Presient and/or President has a long time affiliation with the AIP , group which wants to separate from the United States, whose motto is Alaska First—Alaska Always.” Sarah Palin’s husband also has a long-time mebership with this group, the Alaskan Independence Party. Officially, the AIP is a political party which advocates, in part, becoming a separate nation or commonwealth state… The party has appeared on the ballot in Alaska in all state elections since 1970. At other times, party members have also proposed that the state explore the possibility of joining Canada.

Here is a Link to Sarah Palin addressing the Alaska Independence Party in 2007 wherein she tells them “Your party plays an important role in our state’s politics ... keep up the good work, and God bless you.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

From Blogspot: http://divasblueoasis.blogspot.com/

“Governor Palin’s connections with the AIP are also furthered by her connection to Wally Hickel, a former Alaskan governor. Hickel was elected on the AIP ticket. He served as the co-chairman of Governor Palin’s campaign in 2006 Here is a quote from an interview Hickel did with the Alaska Dispatch:

When Palin was running for governor in 2006, Hickel appeared in advertisements supporting her and the Alaska pipeline.
“I made her governor,” Hickel told me. “

That is an important and telling admission that Hickel, a long-time AIP member believes that he made Sarah Palin governor! He wa also co-chairman of her campaign for Governor. These things deserve observation and thought into the true character of Sarah Palin!

Daily Kos’s muckrakers

“Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she and her husband were once member of their party, which, since the 1970s, has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United State. And while McCain’s motto --- is “Country First,” the AIP’s motto is the exact opposite—“Alaska First—Alaska Always.”

McCain Camp likes to dispute the fact that Sarah Palin and her husband were/are members of this Separative Group. However, Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, told ABC News on Monday that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. Clark was AIP secretary at the time.

Earlier this year, Palin sent a video message to the AIP for its annual convention, where AIP vice chair George Clark told the small crowd that Palin “was an AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town –- that was a non-partisan job. But you get along to go along -– she eventually joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with their ethics, and well, I won’t go into that. She also had about an 80 percent approval rating, and is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership.”

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