Comments on: Reflections on a Sunday at Palin’s Church

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By: mta

mta — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:49:31 +0000

Having attended Wasilla Bible Church a few times I will tell you that the service you attended was normal. Larry Kroon is a normal person, if you met him in Walmart…(do DC reporters ever go to Walmart?), you would think he was just buying his ammo for his moose hunt like anyone else.

Actually his church is a very reasonable church where people study the bible, don't speak in tongues, but like to tell others about Jesus.

By: David in VA

David in VA — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:18:30 +0000

Sarah's affiliation with AIP

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/palin-...

By: mta

mta — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 05:49:31 +0000

Actually his church is a very reasonable church where people study the bible, don't speak in tongues, but like to tell others about Jesus.

By: David in VA

David in VA — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:18:30 +0000

Sarah's affiliation with AIP

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By: bacalove

bacalove — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:46:20 +0000

I love that, this country was not founded on Religion but a Freedom from Religion. Amen! Kay Buchanan said on CNN or one of them about Palin, “She is one of us”. So is it us vs. we again. Exclusion vs. inclusion? Barack stated so poignantly in 2004 that we are not red states or blue states but the United States. We have to keep sounding that message, may be it will hit home.

By: Meredith Ensign

Meredith Ensign — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:09:02 +0000

George Bush holds the same beliefs about the Rapture as this church, as do many Fundamentalist church members; however, many of these members do not believe in bringing it about through their efforts politically. They are taught that their citizenship is in heaven and they are to live out their lives as an example,trying to be like Christ in their treatment of the government as an entity and the people your neighbors. I know many of these people and they are appalled at the radical , non biblical views espoused by Bush, Palin etc. These people are like Paul who was persecuting the Christians as a Jew, which is why he was struck down by God and virtually blinded. True believers that believe the bible is the actual word of God believe that their only purpose is to present unbelievers with the bible's plan of salvation ONLY and to show others by their deeds, words and daily lives that they are like others except for the intervention of the “blood of Christ” and trying to live with the Mind of Christ. They would do nothing politically to try to bring the Rapture closer other than this, as they know that is not their purpose to bring in the Rapture, as they do not have the perfect mind of Christ. They look forward to the Rapture while at the same time want to have as much time as possible to bring as many people to salvation as possible. They do not believe in speaking in tongues, dominion theology, all of the wild stuff you see in the on-line videos of these churches. If you study the New Testament, there are all kinds of passages that talk about the false practices of these churches. There is only one church and it is made up of believers from every denomination that count on the “blood of Christ to cover their sins” and one way you can discern false prophets is clearly described in the New Testament.
I spent 20 years in a church like this and studied everything about it. I still ended up rejecting it all as it falls short of what is humanly possible. I believe Jesus existed but think he was deeply misunderstood because others could not get past their previous beliefs so mixed their prior beliefs into what he said and then added a whole lot of rules, ceremonies etc to make it look good. That does not mean organized churches are bad, only people can be bad, and if you watch what a person does and says every day anyone can identify them, they are just “bad apples” and a reasonable society will reject their actions outright. Joining and belonging to a group doesn't make you right it just means you believe in a similar way OR you want others to perceive you in that way. Sometimes decency and right is on top and sometimes, subterfuge and deceit is on top.
This country was not founded on religion but on freedom from religion by “reasonable men and women” who came together to form a more perfect union (of ideas) for people who wished to be able to pursue their own individual beliefs. Unfortunately, when the deceitful and nefarious people get too much of the upper hand it becomes harder to get stability and reasonableness back and you end up with psychoses like Stalinism, Leninism, Hitlerism and right now Republicanism.
This reasonableness is what Barack Obama is appealing to in people's mind and hearts and that is why he is appealing to so many people. So now it is up to the American people to choose what they want, more Bushism or more of what the people that came here fought so hard to achieve in our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution, which with following McCain/Palin will only erode that Independence for every individual in a terrible way.

By: mommadona

mommadona — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:28:35 +0000

Nice try.

Had their Best Sunday Dress-face on, eh?

Love to see what they had to say about Christian Dominionism and the separation of Church and State.

Thank you for the effort