Someone Forgot to Tell Democracy Activist That Obama’s Terrible on Democracy Promotion

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Tuesday, June 16, 2009 at 6:30 pm

President Obama says some stuff about the need for respecting human rights and the electoral process in Iran. Then the next day he adds, “The easiest way for reactionary forces inside Iran to crush reformers is to say it’s the U.S. that is encouraging those reformers.” Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) finds it all insufficient. Robert Kagan writes that Obama is “objectively on the side of” Ahmadinejad by refusing to say things that will strengthen Ahmadinejad.

Amazingly, someone who doesn’t think Obama’s statements about Iran have been detrimental to democratic impulses is Jack Duvall, the president of the International Center on Nonviolent Conflict, a non-governmental organization which provides tools and training for political reformers and democracy activists around the world. Duvall told me that Obama’s statement yesterday about Iran was “extraordinary,” in a way that I hadn’t considered. “He shifted the frame,” Duvall noted, “from [the question of] ‘were the elections fradulent’ to ‘what’s the responsibility of the Iranian government for peaceful dissent?’ That lays down a marker going forward: this is how we’re assessing you. He doesn’t have to send that in a giant shell shot out of a Howitzer, but it’s a matter of record.” In fact, Duvall said, Obama’s statement was “the first time you’ve heard a president articulate” that “how governments respond to the clamor of their people to be heard should be a measure of how we assess their legitimacy.” While the Bush administration surely wouldn’t have disagreed, he continued, Obama sharpened the point by “focusing it and giving it such visibility” during the largest protests in Iran since the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

But I suppose Duvall is objectively on the side of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, too.

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Jack DuVall
Comment posted June 16, 2009 @ 5:15 pm

Mr. Abraham is too cute by half. My point was that Obama shifted the focus of examining the actions of the Iranian government, from whether the election had or had not been rigged or stolen — an argument that will never be resolved empirically, since the regime is sitting on the paperwork — to the question of whether it is respecting the “universal value” of allowing citizens to dissent, which is to say, to protest peacefully. That sets up a criterion for judging the regime that can be employed by people on the ground or by external observers: Are they blocking and suppressing protest? Since protest is a legitimate way for the people to express themselves, repression of nonviolent demonstrators is equivalent to stealing an election — the regime de-legitimizes itself by doing so. It doesn't become illegitimate because an American president says so, it becomes illegitimate by failing a test related to universal values.


Alexandrous Panagoulis
Comment posted June 16, 2009 @ 5:36 pm

WTF, Spencer?

I can't tell what point you're trying to make. Is this an attempt at snark?

I understood DeVall's point and thought it was pretty sharp.

Or was that your point, only garbled?

Coherence, Spencer, coherence: It's the first duty of any writer.


ajm8127
Comment posted June 16, 2009 @ 6:31 pm

I think he is saying Kagan is a loon and he agrees with DuVall, and, thus, Obama.


sluggahjells
Comment posted June 16, 2009 @ 9:28 pm

good point Spencer, this will go on the site tomorrow


don_Gabacho
Comment posted June 16, 2009 @ 11:32 pm

Last October the Secretary of State of Georgia was notified, with full evidence, of Mexican Government functionaries registering voters in U.S. for U.S. elections: the “Hispanic” vote in part delivered by Bill Richardson.

At least two weeks ago the U.S. Department of Justice also.

The very sovereignty of U.S. elections has been breeched by the Mexican government and thus the very sovereignty of the U.S..

The U.S. Constitution does not empower the federal government to involve itself in the election of itself much less any foreign power; and now Americans are in the ridiculous position of having to expect their own federal government investigate itself.

So? Let's all pay strict attention to Iran's elections.

Let our government intone to the rest of the world how both Iran should respect
elections and not expect the U.S. Government to involve itself in Iran's elections.

After all, Iran is a sovereign nation.

While our government pretends the U.S. is.


Non-Violence
Comment posted June 17, 2009 @ 7:27 am

thank you for this


Spencer Ackerman
Comment posted June 17, 2009 @ 7:41 am

That's what I meant. Sorry for the lack of clarity. Jack & I have talked since this post went up and cleared up any confusion.


Non-Violence
Comment posted June 17, 2009 @ 2:27 pm

thank you for this


Spencer Ackerman
Comment posted June 17, 2009 @ 2:41 pm

That's what I meant. Sorry for the lack of clarity. Jack & I have talked since this post went up and cleared up any confusion.


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RedGraham
Comment posted July 2, 2009 @ 10:53 am

Seems a little odd to me that we can be so self-righteous to see the sliver in Iran's eye but not the beam in our own. How long since we have had a presidential-election that was not rife with voter fraud? Jim Crow, Mayor Daly's Machine, Florida recount, Michigan, Watergate, Carter burglarizing Wallace HQ, and not counting thousands of military absentee-ballots are just a few of the voting irregularities. Ever stop and think about how recounts produce such different figures? What if some other countries pronounced our own tyrant must resign because of ACORN's illegal activities or Obama's total lack of citizenship? The Obama regime is running roughshod over our constitution.


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