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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Detention Dilemma</title>
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		<title>By: Hawaiianstyle</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/46213/obamas-detention-dilemma/comment-page-1#comment-37692</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiianstyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its nice that we are at least open and up front in the world that we have been and want to continue our path to becoming the worlds biggest third world dictatorship.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It would be dishonest and perhaps even immoral for us the engage in preventive detention, preemptive war, illegal war (aggression), illegal domestic spying, torture, rendition, imprisonment by fiat of the government and all the other abuses of the Constitution and Bill of Rights without saying we are going to do it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After all is not Transparency in Government a hallmark of the Obama governance?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When you look at all the unAmerican changes our politicians have done to keep us safe, and to pursue the &quot;War&quot; on terror, it&#039;s hard not to see how Osama did not win.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Auwe, Auwe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its nice that we are at least open and up front in the world that we have been and want to continue our path to becoming the worlds biggest third world dictatorship.</p>
<p>It would be dishonest and perhaps even immoral for us the engage in preventive detention, preemptive war, illegal war (aggression), illegal domestic spying, torture, rendition, imprisonment by fiat of the government and all the other abuses of the Constitution and Bill of Rights without saying we are going to do it.</p>
<p>After all is not Transparency in Government a hallmark of the Obama governance?</p>
<p>When you look at all the unAmerican changes our politicians have done to keep us safe, and to pursue the &#8220;War&#8221; on terror, it&#39;s hard not to see how Osama did not win.</p>
<p>Auwe, Auwe.</p>
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		<title>By: standman</title>
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		<dc:creator>standman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Rham Emanuel will not sign this document with a pen.  He will use his stamp -Barack Obama!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Rham Emanuel will not sign this document with a pen.  He will use his stamp -Barack Obama!</p>
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		<title>By: standman</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/46213/obamas-detention-dilemma/comment-page-1#comment-33651</link>
		<dc:creator>standman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Rham Emanuel will not sign this document with a pen.  He will use his stamp -Barack Obama!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Rham Emanuel will not sign this document with a pen.  He will use his stamp -Barack Obama!</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian style</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/46213/obamas-detention-dilemma/comment-page-1#comment-33543</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian style</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Permanent detention.  Why do we keep creating a new can of worms?  Someone in the Whitehouse needs to be the devils advocate and point out all the things that can go wrong.  Gitmo is a great example.  World opinion.  Al Qaeda recruitment.  Urighurs imprisoning.  Torture.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Permanent detention for how many?  Who decides who is to be detained?  What if this administration is Just, but the next is like the previous administration?  We will have the same problem all over again.  The facility will become a political gulag.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fix the problem don&#039;t make another one.  Try them in Federal Court. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Either our Constitution and Bill of Rights are applicable to modern society or they are not. &lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t just ignore these uniquely American guiding documents, or apply them selectively.  If they are no longer useful propose changes through the prescribed process.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Be American.  Strong, Righteous, Generous and Just.  Be American.  Be courageous, optimistic and fearless.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have never been defeated.  Our worst enemy is ourselves until some catastrophe unites us, or some leader does.  Be that leader.  FIX the problem  with a real, legal, constitutional solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Permanent detention.  Why do we keep creating a new can of worms?  Someone in the Whitehouse needs to be the devils advocate and point out all the things that can go wrong.  Gitmo is a great example.  World opinion.  Al Qaeda recruitment.  Urighurs imprisoning.  Torture.  </p>
<p>Permanent detention for how many?  Who decides who is to be detained?  What if this administration is Just, but the next is like the previous administration?  We will have the same problem all over again.  The facility will become a political gulag.</p>
<p>Fix the problem don&#39;t make another one.  Try them in Federal Court. </p>
<p>Either our Constitution and Bill of Rights are applicable to modern society or they are not. <br />Don&#39;t just ignore these uniquely American guiding documents, or apply them selectively.  If they are no longer useful propose changes through the prescribed process.</p>
<p>Be American.  Strong, Righteous, Generous and Just.  Be American.  Be courageous, optimistic and fearless.    </p>
<p>We have never been defeated.  Our worst enemy is ourselves until some catastrophe unites us, or some leader does.  Be that leader.  FIX the problem  with a real, legal, constitutional solution.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think a GOP president would be any different. Hopefully, the political climate in 4 years will be that so people will wake up and realize that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans can be trusted. Third parties must be heard and we need a strong civil libertarian voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think a GOP president would be any different. Hopefully, the political climate in 4 years will be that so people will wake up and realize that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans can be trusted. Third parties must be heard and we need a strong civil libertarian voice.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After Obama&#039;s vote last year to grant retroactive immunity to the telecoms for their participation in the NSA&#039;s illegal warrantless wiretap program, I knew then he could not be trusted on Civil Liberties.  But what were the alternatives....McCain/Palin?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It just points that we need to make sure our elected leaders get the message that we expect more than just the same thing.  They need to hear from you that you want transparency and accountability in our government. When they fail, throw their a$$es out!  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Currently, the rule of law, the foundation of our republic, is under attack from all sides and it will be interesting to see if we can correct these injustices and recover our standing.  If we allow ourselves to fall into the hands of corruption, that secrecy and these authoritarian measures bring, I&#039;m afraid we will ultimately collapse.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe I grew up a bit naive, but I thought we were supposed to be an example for the rest of the world.  What happened to that paradigm?  If it is dead, it would seems the terrorist did defeat us after all.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is our big moment to see if we live up to our highest standards that we have set for ourselves.  If we fail, God help us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After Obama&#39;s vote last year to grant retroactive immunity to the telecoms for their participation in the NSA&#39;s illegal warrantless wiretap program, I knew then he could not be trusted on Civil Liberties.  But what were the alternatives&#8230;.McCain/Palin?  </p>
<p>It just points that we need to make sure our elected leaders get the message that we expect more than just the same thing.  They need to hear from you that you want transparency and accountability in our government. When they fail, throw their a$$es out!  </p>
<p>Currently, the rule of law, the foundation of our republic, is under attack from all sides and it will be interesting to see if we can correct these injustices and recover our standing.  If we allow ourselves to fall into the hands of corruption, that secrecy and these authoritarian measures bring, I&#39;m afraid we will ultimately collapse.  </p>
<p>Maybe I grew up a bit naive, but I thought we were supposed to be an example for the rest of the world.  What happened to that paradigm?  If it is dead, it would seems the terrorist did defeat us after all.  </p>
<p>This is our big moment to see if we live up to our highest standards that we have set for ourselves.  If we fail, God help us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian style</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawaiian style</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which America do you live in?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The one I want to live in is governed by law, the Constitution and Justice.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t want to give to my kids an America where the president can detain even US citizens indefinitely without trial simply because he says they are dangerous.  PROVE IT.  Prove they are dangerous in a court of law with rules of evidence and a jury.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;President Obama you are wrong on this.  Even though you look calm and confident you are scared on this.  You are afraid an attack, or a political attack will make you look soft on terrorists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I want a President that is STRONG ON LAW, THAT IS STRONG ON THE CONSTITUTION.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t believe the US will survive as a true democracy or as a Constitutional Republic if you prefer if Politicians can change the rules.  Politicians are too subject to political pressure.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you thing I&#039;m wrong prove it.  Look at your policies.  You have changed due to political pressure.  Look at Congress wallow in special interest influence rather than do what the Country needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which America do you live in?</p>
<p>The one I want to live in is governed by law, the Constitution and Justice.  </p>
<p>I don&#39;t want to give to my kids an America where the president can detain even US citizens indefinitely without trial simply because he says they are dangerous.  PROVE IT.  Prove they are dangerous in a court of law with rules of evidence and a jury.</p>
<p>President Obama you are wrong on this.  Even though you look calm and confident you are scared on this.  You are afraid an attack, or a political attack will make you look soft on terrorists.</p>
<p>I want a President that is STRONG ON LAW, THAT IS STRONG ON THE CONSTITUTION.  </p>
<p>I don&#39;t believe the US will survive as a true democracy or as a Constitutional Republic if you prefer if Politicians can change the rules.  Politicians are too subject to political pressure.  </p>
<p>If you thing I&#39;m wrong prove it.  Look at your policies.  You have changed due to political pressure.  Look at Congress wallow in special interest influence rather than do what the Country needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s a proven liar now. Plain and simple. He doesn&#039;t have the courage of his own convictions which means only one thing as you say: Obama is a coward and a weakling and certainly not an advocate for democracy. Simple solution - vote against him next time. I&#039;m a progressive liberal but I would welcome a GOP president over the shameless liar I unfortunately voted for in 08. It doesn&#039;t feel good to be betrayed by a fraud, does it? Don&#039;t let it happen again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#39;s a proven liar now. Plain and simple. He doesn&#39;t have the courage of his own convictions which means only one thing as you say: Obama is a coward and a weakling and certainly not an advocate for democracy. Simple solution &#8211; vote against him next time. I&#39;m a progressive liberal but I would welcome a GOP president over the shameless liar I unfortunately voted for in 08. It doesn&#39;t feel good to be betrayed by a fraud, does it? Don&#39;t let it happen again.</p>
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		<title>By: Outraged Iowan</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/46213/obamas-detention-dilemma/comment-page-1#comment-33149</link>
		<dc:creator>Outraged Iowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still having a hard time digesting that Obama--who ran on transparency in government and reclaiming our moral authority--would even consider such barbaric practices as indefinite detention and an entire made-up &quot;legal regime&quot; for those we sweep up off the streets and declare &quot;terrorists.&quot; The fact that the most extreme Republican shills and Obama are on the same page should tell us something. Obama is willing to forgo his moral credibility--for what? In order to avoid prosecution of those who pose the biggest threat to our democracy: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and some Democrats and Republicans in Congress. What a cowardly stance he&#039;s taking and how little he regards the suffering of others. He&#039;s turning out to be a man who makes soaring speeches, but is, in reality, a man who lacks a moral compass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m still having a hard time digesting that Obama&#8211;who ran on transparency in government and reclaiming our moral authority&#8211;would even consider such barbaric practices as indefinite detention and an entire made-up &#8220;legal regime&#8221; for those we sweep up off the streets and declare &#8220;terrorists.&#8221; The fact that the most extreme Republican shills and Obama are on the same page should tell us something. Obama is willing to forgo his moral credibility&#8211;for what? In order to avoid prosecution of those who pose the biggest threat to our democracy: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and some Democrats and Republicans in Congress. What a cowardly stance he&#39;s taking and how little he regards the suffering of others. He&#39;s turning out to be a man who makes soaring speeches, but is, in reality, a man who lacks a moral compass.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/46213/obamas-detention-dilemma/comment-page-1#comment-33110</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see how it highlights any dilemma or send a mixed message.  Obama made clear that this is the solution he prefers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t see how it highlights any dilemma or send a mixed message.  Obama made clear that this is the solution he prefers.</p>
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