Tancredo, Buchanan Bruised by Racist ‘Karate Chop’

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Tuesday, June 02, 2009 at 12:01 am
Former Rep. Tom Tancredo and Pat Buchanan (Getty Images)

Former Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) and Pat Buchanan (Getty Images)

On July 7, 2007, Marcus Epstein had too much to drink and stumbled onto Georgetown’s scenic, shop-lined M Street, walking in no particular direction. At 7:15 p.m., he bumped into a black woman, called her a “nigger,” and struck her in the head with an open hand. An off-duty Secret Service agent was watching. Epstein “jogged away,” according to the agent’s affidavit, and when Epstein was finally chased down, he “continued to flail his arms while being taken into custody.”

Image by: Matt Mahurin

Image by: Matt Mahurin

After this, say Epstein’s friends, the then-24-year-old conservative activist radically changed his life. He swore off drinking and started attending meetings of Alcoholics Anonymous. He started treating the bipolar depression that had gone undiagnosed until that run-in with the law. In January 2008 Epstein plea bargained to a charge of simple assault, as part of a settlement that included a letter of apology to his victim and a $1,000 donation to the United Negro College Fund. He will be in court again July 8, but because he met the terms of his settlement, Epstein’s employers expect the ordeal to end then and there. Epstein could not be reached for comment on Monday.

Epstein was, and still is, one of the utility players in the immigration restrictionist fringe of the conservative movement, the executive director of both Pat Buchanan’s American Cause and former Rep. Tom Tancredo’s (R-Colo.) Team America PAC. Before and after the 2007 incident, Epstein worked (in an unofficial capacity) with Tancredo on his immigration-focused presidential campaign. He organized policy debates between conservative writers and leaders, including one with Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) that was broadcast on C-SPAN. Epstein built coalitions and hobnobbed at Washington parties without much trouble, despite a record of controversial race- and immigration-focused writings and awareness that something bad — the details weren’t clear — had happened in 2007 that convinced him to go on the wagon.

“In college you have this culture of drinking all the time, and he kicked it cold,” said Kevin DeAnna, a friend of Epstein and the founder of Youth for Western Civilization, a student group founded in 2008 of which Tancredo is the honorary chairman. “It’s unfortunate that he’s getting hit from this now, years after he stopped doing this kind of thing.”

Since May 19, when the watchdog group One People’s Project released the legal documents detailing Epstein’s arrest, the activist and his employers have come under fire. By late Monday, the University of Virginia Law School was telling reporters that Epstein would not be joining the class of 2012, even though he had planned to retire from his jobs at the end of June and “more or less suspend my political activities” to attend the school. But Epstein’s career up through yesterday was marked by controversial articles and speeches, happy feuds with politically correct organizations like the One People’s Project and the Southern Poverty Law Center, and no serious blowback from the mainstream conservative movement. (In 2008, Epstein contributed to the Southern Poverty Law Center in order to win a place on its “Wall of Tolerance” and to warn the group that it was “just one degree of separation away” from him.) Epstein’s past only became an issue after his patrons, Tancredo and Buchanan, spent a week bashing Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor as a “racist” and an an “affirmative action” candidate.

“It’s a huge breakthrough,” said Darrell Jenkins, a co-founder of the nine-year-old One People’s Project. “This game that keeps being played on the right, the way that their leaders will say anything and claim that they’re not racist — that got knocked out the window. Now we have proof that someone of that stature is running around like an idiot in the streets. Why would a Tom Tancredo associate himself with a Marcus Epstein? If he’s going to go after Sotomayor for an out-of-context quote from 2001, he’s got to answer for this.” Jenkins added that he would “be in the courtroom” when Epstein is sentenced.

Marcus Epstein (left) at the Conservative Political Action Conference on March 1, 2007 (Photo by: Dave Weigel)

Marcus Epstein (left) at the Conservative Political Action Conference on March 1, 2007 (Photo by: Dave Weigel)

Epstein, who turned 26 in May, has spent his entire adult life courting controversy. In 2003, as the president of College Libertarians and the editor of the conservative newspaper at the College of William and Mary, he argued that conservatives erred by appropriating the rhetoric of Martin Luther King, Jr. instead of remembering his “philandering and plagiarism.” Before and after graduation Epstein carved out an online identity as an old-line, nativist conservative, contributing to the immigration restrictionist web site VDare.com. When he began working for American Cause, Epstein became a young and energetic proponent of ideas that were often attributed to angry, aging white men. “Pat graciously gave me an audio CD version of the book,” Epstein wrote in an article criticizing National Review for not reviewing Buchanan’s “State of Emergency,” an anti-immigration jeremiad. “The facts that he laid out in the book, made me so impassioned, upset, and often angry, that on more than one occasion, I literally had to pull over to a rest stop to compose myself for fear that I would get in a road rage incident.”

In 2006, Epstein co-founded a new paleoconservative group, the Robert Taft Club, with DeAnna; the leadership circle later expanded to include conservative writer Richard Spencer. The group easily drew in thinkers and activists from the mainstream and extreme right. Fox News pundit Jim Pinkerton and National Review writer John Derbyshire appeared, as did Belgian extremist politician Filip Dewinter and Jared Taylor, editor of American Renaissance, a race-conscious conservative magazine which invited British extremist politician Nick Griffin to its 2006 conference. None of this was secretive — the events were on the record and included panelists who vehemently disagreed with one another. None of it backfired on the attendees, despite SPLC reports and other exposes. (Note: The writer of this story attended several Robert Taft Club events as a journalist.) The club’s best-attended events were organized after Epstein’s 2007 arrest, the details of which did not become known until this week. Now, some of the people Epstein had brought out for public debates worry about the effects of the One People’s Project’s revelations and the increased scrutiny that has come with Tancredo and Buchanan’s Sotomayor statements.

“It’s the sort of thing the left typically does,” Taylor told TWI. “The One People’s Project published my home phone number and home address, more or less inviting somebody to pitch a brick through my window. The Southern Poverty Law Center will be crowing and whooping about this. It’s typical of the other side and it’s an ungentlemanly way to conduct politics.”

On Monday, Bay Buchanan — the co-chairman of Team America PAC and the president of American Cause — defended Epstein and castigated the One People’s Project for dredging up the arrest details. Buchanan managed Tancredo’s presidential campaign, and Epstein did some volunteer speechwriting for the campaign before and after the arrest. Buchanan said he has worked through his problems, making it all the more mysterious that he should be targeted for them now.

“This is something that happened two years ago that Marcus has paid a price for,” said Buchanan. “Are people allowed a second chance in this life when they realize their mistakes and their errors? I think so.”

Tancredo and Pat Buchanan have not commented on the news of Epstein’s 2007 arrest, but DeAnna’s Youth for Western Civilization got out ahead of the story with a May 29 statement that Epstein had no affiliation with the group apart from scheduling Tancredo’s speeches on college campuses. Pinkerton chose not to address the charges against Epstein, but he wondered what effect the rush by Tancredo and Buchanan to accuse Sotomayor of racism was having on the Supreme Court debate and on the conservative movement in particular.

“The ‘R’ word is a tough word,” said Pinkerton. “My immediate reaction to Sotomayor’s ‘wise Latina’ comment was ‘tell that to the people whose faces are on Mount Rushmore. They were pretty wise and they weren’t Latina females.’ That being the case, we all are blessed with the vocabularies to choose different words. In our culture, ‘racist’ is really up there in the Richter scale of words.”

Curt Levey, the executive director of the Committee of Justice, has been optimistic about the right’s fight against Sotomayor, but he admitted to TWI that he “underestimated the degree to which a few conservatives would say a few extreme things, and that would be characterized as what all conservatives think.”

For Epstein’s friends, this aspect of the Supreme Court debate has simply been surprising and sad. “I hope he can live it down,” said Taylor of American Renaissance. “I would have thought Dick Morris would never live down his $150 an hour hooker. I would never have thought Bill Clinton would live down what happened between him and Monica Lewinsky. In the end, those people were welcomed back into the fold. It’s just that liberals tend to be very unforgiving about things of this kind.”

[UPDATE: This article originally misstated the name of one of the Robert Taft Club's leaders. It was Richard Spencer, not Robert Spencer.]

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thecivvie
Comment posted June 1, 2009 @ 9:28 pm

A karate chop to the system changed everything?


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FVG
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 5:39 am

Concerning the Update at the bottom of the article – conservative writer Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch may be a total dweeb, but I doubt he would be associated with this organization. Never heard of Richard Spencer.


Prof Lawrence T Smugbottom PhD
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 5:58 am

I would also like to add that Filip Dewinter is Belgian, as opposed to Begian. Obtaining the services of an editor may be in order.


Bob Smith
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 6:06 am

Scream the lie. Whisper the retraction.


S Lee
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 6:47 am

lol, that's funny. Instead of “Robert Spencer” insert “Charles Johnson” – 2 peas in a pod.


Snarkus Epstein
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 7:11 am

Hint to Taylor: Dick Morris hasn't lived down his $150/hour hooker. He wasn't welcomed back into the fold. He's in your fold now.


cjk002
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 7:20 am

I find it a little odd that Jim Pinkerton would say that his reaction to Sotomayor's 'wise latina' remark was to think “tell that to the people whose faces are on mount Rushmore” considering that 2 of those faces were partly responsible for allowing slavery and the 3/5ths rule into our constitution. I would argue that had there been a few 'wise Latinas' at the constitutional convention, then we would never have encoded racial discrimination into the document in the first place.


Professor Tracey
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 7:26 am

Too bad, Epstein hasn't decided to “kick” being a racist. And he was 24 years old in 2007, he was no longer a “college student” and being drunk is no excuse for striking people or dropping the “N” word. And he has NOT learned anything, because he has yet to apologize in the open and the fact that he willing went along with the event being held back from the public for two years speaks volumes. Further, he has been caught making racist statements under photos on his facebook page. This dude has issues and he should not be allowed to attend anyone's law school.


Andrew
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 7:39 am

“race conscious conservative magazine”?? Please. Call it what it is. This is a euphemism, like “enhanced interrogation”.


scurvybro
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 7:45 am

If Epstein had a drinking problem and has kicked it, good for him. If he has bipolar depression and now controls it with medication, hooray.

But what does any of that have to do with his racist utterances and writings? Is the suggestion that his alcoholism and bipolar disease caused him to express these ideas, and now that he has these conditions managed, he no longer has racist attitudes?

Uh-huh. And Dubya kept us safe.


Fran
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 7:46 am

LIBERALS tend to be unforgiving???? HA!


Wendy
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 7:49 am

“My immediate reaction to Sotomayor’s ‘wise Latina’ comment was ‘tell that to the people whose faces are on Mount Rushmore. They were pretty wise and they weren’t Latina females.”

And he really can't find anything wrong with that statement? As if anything but a white male would be on Rushmore? And until fairly recently, nothing but white males on the Supreme Court. His ignorance of the history of prejudice against people of color in this country is quite amazing and he is obviously quite unaware that those white men on Mount Rushmore is a reflection of that..


Nardwilly
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 7:50 am

Liberals tend to be forgiving.

You conservatives forgave G. Gordon Liddy, a convicted felon. Conservatives forgave Vitter for using whores and prostitutes. You forgave Newt for cheating on two wives. Check the dates. Bob Dole chetaed on his first wife with then younger Elizabeth. Limbaugh is a convicted drug abuser. Morris is not a liberal, and liberals were never mad at Clinton for Lewinsky.


LULU
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 7:53 am

da! how is that surprising? racists being friends with other racists?


GuyBertram
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 8:15 am

Karl Rove just called again and Loser Tancredo and his Loser assistant Marcus Epstein are FAIR GAME.

Dick Morris is STILL a disgrace, even more so as BillO'Reilly's DEMOCRAP, and so is David Diapers Vitters, Newt Gingrich, Liddy AND Little Bill Clinton for getting caught.


Multi-racial America
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 8:17 am

It may be worth pointing out – which this article doesn't – that the kid comes from a bi-racial background, with Korean and Jewish parents. Talk about self-hatred. This kid is acting out fantasies of racial supremacy to make up for being part of two minority groups – Asians and Jews – who have always have had a very ambivalent reception in mainstream WASP America, but are also touted as “model minorities.” Looks like this kid picked up a bit too much white supremacist ideology and is hoping that if he hits black people from time to time, no one will notice that he's part of multi-racial America himself.


RightDownTheMiddle
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 8:20 am

I've had too much to drink before on many occassions and never once called anyone such a foul word. Blaming alcohol for being a racist is lame. Super lame.


Jasper
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 8:20 am

Wasn't he a member of “Young Racists for McCain?” He's kind of homely. No wonder he's such a frustrated little twerp.


royola
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 8:22 am

I lived with Marcus Epstein for a year, during that time he never exhibited the kind of behavior one would associate with a bipolar disorder. As to his drinking Marcus definitely over imbibed but it was social drinking that often led to over consumption not the self medication that one might expect to see in an individual suffering from a bipolar disorder. And also not the drinking behavior one would expect from an alcoholic.


Paul
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 8:35 am

A 16 year old black kid does something, Bay Buchanan wants him in jail for life. A 24 year old friend of hers does this, “forgive him!”

Why doesn't Mr. Epstein show his true contrition by doing something meaningful, like volunteer for the U.S. Army & head for Afghanistan?


karela
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 8:38 am

Yeah, those pesky people who vote democratic—-in droves—-tend to think that calling, the most experienced federal judge to be appointed to the Supreme Court in a hundred years a racist, is somehow not a good thing to do. The republican party is so out of touch with America outside of the deep south that they think if they send their non elected minions to do the wet and dirty work of calling Sotomayer a racist that people won't figure out that it's a ploy. Elected republicans, for the most part, would certainly do this too if they thought it would work for them. Mitch McConnell looked pretty silly claiming that he was so busy governing a small body of republican senators that he had no time to say that it was a bad thing for Limbaugh and Gingrich to use the dirty words in reference to a well respected and long time federal judge. Get real Mitch. That may play in Dixie, but you're not in Dixie and the whole country is listening. 2010 is coming and you're shrinking, shrinking, shrinking. I don't think the republican party noticed, but a large majority of those minorities they so dislike are voting democratic. After this they should expect an even larger shift.


dave
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 8:41 am

“of THAT SORT OF THING” I would think that EVERYONE has a problem forgiving racist pigs.


dave
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 8:43 am

Surely you're refering to the drug addled gas bag's fat folds.


karela
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 8:46 am

Alcohol doesn't make you a racist, it just loosens up your inhibitions so that you feel free enough to express those thoughts by hitting a black woman on the sidewalk in George Town and calling her the “n” word. Now that he isn't drinking and he's had his public s-p-a-n-k-i-n-g, he doesn't express his hatred in public anymore. That doesn't mean that he's changed inside. He was very welcomed by the far right and they knew what he was. He felt comfortable and accepted over there in the far right whacko land and the point is that we all know that now. This isn't about Epstein. It's about the Tancredos and Buchanans who made him feel so welcome, accepted and agreed with.


malghani
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 8:57 am

When ever some thing goes wrong for republicans; blame it on Alcohol.

Mark Foley Pedophilia? NO, alcohol problems.

Pastor Ted Haggard, Prostitute and Meth problems? No, alcohol problems.

Where is responsibility that they are always talking about?

Republicans are only good at talking out of their A$$.


Conservatoire
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 8:59 am

Bay Buchanan is full of s**t. The right always pulls out the “shouldn't people be given a second chance?” meme whenever it is convenient, but if it is someone they object to like Bill Clinton, Bill Ayers, or anyone else who did something wrong a long time ago, they must be forever punished and made an example of.

Republicans sicken me.


Joe
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 9:04 am

The thing I find hilarious about Pinkerton's comment is the fact that women didn't even have rights when our leaders on Mt. Rushmore ruled. And I don't think they were many hispanics on American soil at the time unless they were slaves or indentured servants. The quote just makes him look like the bigoted idiot he is.


DR
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 9:08 am

“immigration restrictionist”: WOW! talk about P.C. talk… Right up there with “vertically challenged” and “erectile dysfunction”. The proper term, people, is RACIST. Period.


soso08
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 9:17 am

It's not hard to forgive sexual misadventures by consenting adults, even those on the right. It is the relentless debasing of the debate about important issues by name calling and denigrating a person's intelligence because of their last name that is abhorent and unforgiveable, by any decent person's standards, left or right. When these extremists begin to feel the slap of disapproval from all decent Americans, perhaps the people who are provided a platform to spew this hate speech will either be denied a national platform or excoriated for using it thusly.


KDee
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 9:21 am

Do they have rehab for racists?


myerman
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 9:43 am

Well Mr. Pinkerton, there were Latinos within the modern borders of the USA even before the people whose faces are on Rushmore were ever born. So whatever.


Lagirl
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 9:48 am

I don't why anyone would be surprised at this guy. Look who his mentors are and who he pals around with. Tancredo and Pat Buchanan. These guys are two of the most disgusting and vile racists in America. Pat needs to be asked about this the next time he debates Lawrence O'Donnell or Bob Shrum on MSNBC.


hrh
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 9:48 am

“Alcohol doesn't make you a racist, it just loosens up your inhibitions so that you feel free enough to express those thoughts…….” Mel Gibson immediately came to mind.


Lagirl
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 9:53 am

You are right on target. These racists are now upset that someonen has exposed something that happened in 2007, and they still dredge up Judge Sotomayer's remarks from 2002. What a bunch of pathetic hypocrites.


jvill
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 10:01 am

The Mel Gibson Defense.

Gotta love it.


Logic&Reason
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 10:04 am

“… It’s just that liberals tend to be very unforgiving about things of this kind.” … hmmm I guess Mr. Epstein's friends either never learned about the slavery period that is associate with the n- word, or the kind of insult that the word brings… how would Mr. Epstein feel if someone call him a nasty nickname just because of his last name? Will he be as forgiving? Just hearing the response from Mr. Epstein's friend shows that they are doing all of this apologetic stuff for PR purposes, he is not truly sorry…


elaygee
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 10:07 am

Epstein's ancestors are rolling in their graves over how far from his roots he has moved. If they were'nt already dead, they'd die if shame.


E Joyce
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 10:10 am

“I hope he can live it down,” said Taylor of American Renaissance. “I would have thought Dick Morris would never live down his $150 an hour hooker. I would never have thought Bill Clinton would live down what happened between him and Monica Lewinsky. In the end, those people were welcomed back into the fold. It’s just that liberals tend to be very unforgiving about things of this kind.”
The notion that sexual indiscretions are even close to proactive racism that is barely kept under control by not drinking are equal in the mind of Taylor speaks volumes about the deep seated prejudice ingrained in the character of these people and they see nothing else through the prism with which they view politics, policy and people.


SqueakyRat
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 10:12 am

Does this Taylor character really believe that screwing a hooker or getting a blow job are comparable to attacking someone in the street and screaming racial epithets at her?


lvdragonlady
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 10:18 am

Anyone who has ever over indulged knows that alcohol always brings out the truth in any person.
Sure, people can change BUT the fact that he still associates with groups with questionable qualities shows that he has not changed at all.


Brannon
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 10:26 am

> For Epstein’s friends, this aspect of the Supreme Court debate has simply been surprising and sad. “I hope he can live it down,” said Taylor of American Renaissance. “I would have thought Dick Morris would never live down his $150 an hour hooker. I would never have thought Bill Clinton would live down what happened between him and Monica Lewinsky. In the end, those people were welcomed back into the fold. It’s just that liberals tend to be very unforgiving about things of this kind.”

Oh right, because consensual sex is just as bad as violent racism.


Target
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 10:29 am

Amazing. Simply amazing.

What is even more amazing is that many in the Republican party believe people like this are blazing the path to regain political power.


christopher
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 11:02 am

Repubs???? Take your meds !!! heeeee heeeeeee


sparky09
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 11:47 am

As part of his sentence, maybe the woman he slapped should be able to knock him upside the head with the AA Big Book…


carl
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 12:25 pm

Bipolar my ass!


Chico_Brisbane
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 12:36 pm

I'm so sick of Pat Buchanan that I've stopped watching Hardball and Morning Joe. I hop that Rachel Maddow and Olbemann stay clear of him or I'll stop watching MSNBC entirely,


Chaya
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 12:39 pm

Clobbering a black woman and calling her a nigger is compared by right-wing freaks to Bill Clinton having an affair?

Totally skewed morals.


katchat
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 12:47 pm

Yeah, those faces on Mt. Rushmore aren't even supposed to be up there, trespassers!

So what about Sotomayer, I know if I ever was nominated for the Supreme Court I would bring the knowledge and life experiences of the indigenous people of this country to my rulings. After all, who in the history of Supreme Court judges have been Natives' peers when making rulings concerning our treaty rights? Americans tend to have short term memory where Native people are concerned.


S Lee
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 1:12 pm

“Republicans sicken me.” — posted by Conservatoire

Republicans don't sicken me, but Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch, does.

Ditto Charles Johnson of “Little Green Bigotballs.”


Gern
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 1:15 pm

If only those damned liberals would just let the right spew their hate, racism, obfuscation, and missinformation without interferring (you know, those typical liberal tactics), we wouldn't be having these discussions. This poor, young, maligned, soft-assed son-of-a-bitch doesn't hate black people anymore. Get over it. Just because he pens hate speech for others doesn't mean HE hates minorities. He just feels better when they're not around, or at least out of the majority. Why do liberals hate America?


guest
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 2:04 pm

guess you libs don't believe in change after all.


JP
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 3:39 pm

GOP = HATE & BIGOTRY
Always has been. Always will be.


Elagins
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 5:47 pm

How ironic and disgusting that Epstein espouses the same kind of intolerance that probably drove his great-grandparents to leave Eastern Europe in search of more tolerance here. Shame on you, Epstein!
— Another Jew


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[...] David Weigel at The Washington Independent: On July 7, 2007, Marcus Epstein had too much to drink and stumbled onto Georgetown’s scenic, shop-lined M Street, walking in no particular direction. At 7:15 p.m., he bumped into a black woman, called her a “nigger,” and struck her in the head with an open hand. An off-duty Secret Service agent was watching. Epstein “jogged away,” according to the agent’s affidavit, and when Epstein was finally chased down, he “continued to flail his arms while being taken into custody.” [...]


GenX
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 7:50 pm

What's the big deal, alcohol is poison.
And it should be illegal along with tobacco.
And I'm sure he said nig'ga' as opposed to 'ger'.'

Right wingers aren't the 'only' source of political evil.
We're actually all getting screwed.
You guys are our heart, but we are the voice of caution, the 'brakes' if you will.
And a country filled with the majority of either of us would be hell.

And you think that it will only be the blue-collared workers who get usurped from unabated immigration, think again.
Our elites just want a ever growing army of consumers and tax payers, and flooding the work force is to simply depresses wages.
Look at how the older h1b1 visa workers get thrown on the scrapheap when they become too old and expensive.
Do you think they care about you and your expensive educations? Right.

And Jared Taylor would have brought up the sexual indiscretions as an examples of lack of self control, but I suppose as the outcomes were pleasure V pain, you guys don't see the harm.
But it did hurt some things, that you obviousily care nothing about.
Nothing matters, anything goes, hate the haters=means you are good. Hooray!
Enjoy your future and you better learn Chinese and/or Spanish.


24AheadDotCom
Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 8:49 pm

Epstein certainly sounds like someone who made a mistake and should have found another job.

However, the question becomes, “why is TWI so ardently following this story? Are they reporters, or are they something else?”

Then, you realize who funds this pseudo-paper: Soros and Rockefeller. Groups funded especially by the former constantly support massive illegal activity. Whyever could that be?

Wait! Could it be that Soros sees illegal aliens as a power base for him or the Democratic Party (basically the same thing) and is using this case to smear his opponents?

Could it be that Dave Weigel is just a hack? (Hint: your answer is at that link).

Could it be that those Soros-funded groups realize that their arguments don't hold water and are just trying to achieve their ends through highlighting stupid things people have done while drunk?

I think we have the answer.


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catherine
Comment posted June 3, 2009 @ 1:05 am

amazing how they expect people to 'forgive' but they never do. they never stop. they hate and hate and wonder why people hate them back. bay has botoxed what little humanity she has away.


longnow
Comment posted June 3, 2009 @ 7:36 am

Let's see if I can lower myself to Epstein's, um, level
of 5'5″ or is it 5'3″ of functioning. It's the little guys who
you have to watch & it's guys who have been accused of
racism in the past like Buchanan, Gingrich, Tancredo, Limbaugh
who are jumping on Judge Sotomayor. Her comment, when read
in it's entirety are NOT anywhere near racist. That term in connection
with the judge is basically for people who can't & won't read & depend
on conservative talkers to tell them what today's talking & thinking
points are acceptable. I don't depend on any one point of reference.


gmorris
Comment posted June 3, 2009 @ 8:16 am

And I'm sure he said nig'ga' as opposed to 'ger'.'

Oh, right because thats sooo much better. You're an idiot. He better be happy he was able to WALK away from that one.


gmorris
Comment posted June 3, 2009 @ 8:17 am

You're a plague.


gmorris
Comment posted June 3, 2009 @ 8:20 am

Yup. Its when their children marry one of “them” and they meet their grandchildren.


Tom Levenson
Comment posted June 3, 2009 @ 9:25 am

“It’s just that liberals tend to be very unforgiving about things of this kind.”

Let's see: illicit sex vs. race-hatred motivated assault.

I wonder why Mr. Taylor finds the distinction between the two categories of behavior so hard to grasp.

I will not say the word; as Newt has said in a mirror-image context, you read; you decide.


Jonna Mackin
Comment posted June 3, 2009 @ 9:30 am

How long will MSNBC retain Pat Buchanan as a commentator? Not long, I hope.


tjdj314
Comment posted June 3, 2009 @ 9:12 pm

Scurvybro, you hit the nail squarely on the head. The attitudes are definitely still there.


GenX
Comment posted June 4, 2009 @ 7:13 pm

“Sticks and stones'.
Hey wait a minute I thought name calling was the problem in the first place.
It's ok when you do it, alright if you say so.
My people find the name 'idiot' racially offensive, so I suppose that makes you a 'hate criminal'.
You better hand in your resignation by Monday morning please.
Or perhaps you're just implying that the n-word spelt with the 'gga', is a African American lie.
Well that's not nice.
So can a white person say it that way too, or not because it's just 'their word'?
You Liberals have so many confusing one-sided racial rules,
please “can't we all just get along”.


dds
Comment posted June 5, 2009 @ 2:17 pm

Daryl Jenkins is himself a frightening, race-baiter ….look at the website of One People's Project and the hate it spews…they are anarchists who follow around and stalk those who publicly oppose illegal immigration…..he's been in Lakewood, NJ, he''s harrassed lawmakers in Harrisburg, PA, he's harrassed Joey Vento and others as well…me thinks One People's Project works undercover for the ACLU, the SPLC and makes its life mission to smear anyone who disagrees with the open-borders agenda.


dds
Comment posted June 5, 2009 @ 2:34 pm

One People's Project has published phone numbers, home addresses and workplace addresses of some individuals.
On July 28, 2007, blogger Robb Pearson sponsored a rally to support a plan by the mayor of Morristown, New Jersey to deputize law enforcement officials to enforce immigration laws. A notice on the One People's Project website called the event an “anti-immigrant rally”, although Pearson described it as a rally against illegal immigration. During the rally, counter-demonstrators chanted while rally participants sang the United States national anthem. At the end of the rally, two of Pearson's supporters were attacked by counter-demonstrators. After the rally, the One People's Project website included the following statement: “[w]e don't think anyone is going to lose any sleep over people chanting during the anti-immigrant side's salute to the flag, Nazis getting slapped around a bit or the pain Robb Pearson & Co. feel over being called racist all the time.


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Comment posted June 6, 2009 @ 5:11 am

Pat Buchana, Tom Tancerdo, Rush Limbaugh and the rest of conservative America are losing the debate as well as crediblity. Their vision of this country will not suceed because their ideals are simply outdated. If these people ideals had any traction there would not had been a Micheal Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Jackie Robertson and the rest of the great African-American ballers. They would have fought to keep the NBA,NFL and MLB from intergration, that would have been a huge lost for this country. Thank God we have rational and progresive white Americans that see beyond the color line. Thank God the Union won the civil war and the defeat of the confederacy was the defeat of ultra conservatism.


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Comment posted June 6, 2009 @ 5:42 am

” It’s typical of the other side and it’s an ungentlemanly way to conduct politics.”

Wow, is that rich. Gentlemen do not attack women, for any reason, nor do they defend nasty little racist twerps who do attack women.

Do these people not hear themselves talk? Not only do they appear, after all, not to believe in “personal responsibility” for themselves (only for others), but they also appear to be politically tone deaf and very, very childish.

There is no excuse for that Epstein has done, either for the crime he committed or the lies and incitement he has spread for years. His career is now ruined, and he'll become a sort of minor David Duke figure on the far, far right, I'm sure. That's rich, though — a half Jewish, half Korean white nationalist. Pathetic.


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Comment posted June 17, 2009 @ 4:08 pm

Kevin Deanna said, “It’s unfortunate that he’s getting hit from this now, years after he stopped doing this kind of thing.”

Bay Buchanan said, “This is something that happened two years ago that Marcus has paid a price for. Are people allowed a second chance in this life when they realize their mistakes and their errors? I think so.”

Not to be a stickler, but won't the date have to reach July 7, 2009 before the plural “years” can be correctly used?

Epstein committed a hate crime, a racially-motivated verbal and physical assault. He verbally abused and struck an apparent stranger because she was black. He has not paid for this crime: he has barely had a slap on the wrist. This needs to be referred to the Justice Department to see if undue influence was used to keep this cretin out of jail. He should have at least been placed in custody for psychological evaluation.


cdmsr
Comment posted June 17, 2009 @ 11:08 pm

Kevin Deanna said, “It’s unfortunate that he’s getting hit from this now, years after he stopped doing this kind of thing.”

Bay Buchanan said, “This is something that happened two years ago that Marcus has paid a price for. Are people allowed a second chance in this life when they realize their mistakes and their errors? I think so.”

Not to be a stickler, but won't the date have to reach July 7, 2009 before the plural “years” can be correctly used?

Epstein committed a hate crime, a racially-motivated verbal and physical assault. He verbally abused and struck an apparent stranger because she was black. He has not paid for this crime: he has barely had a slap on the wrist. This needs to be referred to the Justice Department to see if undue influence was used to keep this cretin out of jail. He should have at least been placed in custody for psychological evaluation.


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Comment posted June 23, 2009 @ 2:57 pm

Democrats get off your arses and slap those Republicans down for their folly. They cry about the financial burden to our country. Where were their financial laments to support the lying war in Iraq. Whenever it's time to serve the citizenry then come the cries of financial hardship from the Republicans, tell our lame democrat health care leaders, it's time to slap back.


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Jared Taylor shows his sickening hypocrisy. He is always condemning blacks for committing violent crimes. But he refuses to condemn Epstein's violent behaviour.


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Are we going to get an update before or after Marcus's July 8 courtdate?
Thanks!


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