Comments on: Torture Memo Shields Interrogators

By: oscar

oscar — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:00:31 +0000

Wow, ndustire, your post is a creepy gold mine for psychoanalysis. It sounds as if you have your adolescent torture and vengeance fantasies for “these types” (what types are those?) pretty well worked out. Do you really think what you talk about bears any relationship to reality? Kill their families? Throw them out of helicopters? Who do you do this to, anybody you don't like? How do you know they're “guilty”? How do you know the truth if and when they “talk”? Stop watching “24″ and join the real world.

By: bwildered

bwildered — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:44:56 +0000

It goes without saying that torture works. John McCain confessed to bombing elementary schools among other things in VietNam…. It is a good thing to torture people, you get at the truth…..

By: mea1

mea1 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:28:14 +0000

Dear American Pie:

Behaviors that degrade people degrade us all, including your soldiers and yourself. It is one thing for you to feel that every method is good to protect your loved ones, it is another thing for the governments to follow that logic. This simplistic and primitive argument of "saving lives" actually justifies unethical and immoral treatment of others. Do you think that it is to our benefit to promote all over the world immoral and unetical behaviors that time and time again prove to be inefective because they produce falce evidence and bread resentment and hatred towards the perpetrators. By the way, are you a Christian? If so, how do you feel about tortures committed on Jesus? Those who did it also had their own justification to do it. It's always very easy to come up with justifications of our sins.

By: klydekrashkup

klydekrashkup — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:13:56 +0000

Just one more example that the US is seems to be the most backwards of the industrializednations. As if we aren't trailing enough on energy efficiency, health care (40-odd million uninsured), capital puishment (we're the only guys who have it), gay marriage(we're the only guys who DON'T have it) and in the military (ditto), and taking our marbles home w/Kyoto and the land-mine treaties. And boy, did we blow it with storming out of the International Criminal Court in a huff or what?! If we let them handle our "terrosists", we could have avoided the mess w/the tribunals. This leaving the ICC is going to bite us in the heinies the way bowing out of the League of Nations, if it han't already!

If only we could the the folks from Gewrmany to vote in our elections....

By: ndustire

ndustire — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:31:38 +0000

You just need one piece of information…Where were they born? Then tell them it will disappear in a blaze of glory if they do not talk. They may desire martyrdom, but not for their whole family.
Alternately, hanging them out of a helicopter at several thousand feet comes to mind as a motivator. Simply send one out, and the rest will tell you anything you want to know. Tell them if you catch a lie later, there will be another flight waiting just for them.
Personally, I think terrorists should be put in a glass cage, with an internet camera streaming video without audio. This will terrify middle eastern types because they are not martyred, and are shown to be powerless. They all desire power, and this will cancel their fantasy.
As one who as been in the middle east, I can testify that reason is not to be expected from these types. Logic totally escapes them. Withdrawal of expatriates would collapse the middle east in short order.

By: brianfellow

brianfellow — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:01:07 +0000

Hey Pie Hole, how many lives did torture save? If you don

By: ajm8127

ajm8127 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:03:21 +0000

So , americanpie, you are advocating torture? Are you aware that most trained interrogators will tell you that torture does not actually work, that it just forces the victim to say what they think you want to hear? So the question I have for you is how does misinformation save lives?

By: americanpie

americanpie — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:38:15 +0000

The result was many American and Iraqi lives were saved! If my family was in harms way, I would use any method possible to save them. War isn't a game and winning is the only positive outcome. Too many lawyers see this as a money opportunity and don't give a damn about the soldiers lives that were in jeopardy.

By: oscar

oscar — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

Wow, ndustire, your post is a creepy gold mine for psychoanalysis. It sounds as if you have your adolescent torture and vengeance fantasies for “these types” (what types are those?) pretty well worked out. Do you really think what you talk about bears any relationship to reality? Kill their families? Throw them out of helicopters? Who do you do this to, anybody you don’t like? How do you know they’re “guilty”? How do you know the truth if and when they “talk”? Stop watching “24″ and join the real world.

By: bwildered

bwildered — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000

It goes without saying that torture works. John McCain confessed to bombing elementary schools among other things in VietNam…. It is a good thing to torture people, you get at the truth…..