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	<title>Comments on: Conservatives Poised to Fight &#8216;Islamist Lawfare&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: svend</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/43671/conservatives-poised-to-fight-islamist-lawfare/comment-page-1#comment-36925</link>
		<dc:creator>svend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no sympathy for frivolous lawsuits of any sort, regardless of the politics of the filer, but to the extent these charges are true, they seem to me merely symptoms of the excessive (and well known) role played by money in law, not the sinister influence of Islamists behind the scenes. All activists going toe to toe with folks with deep pockets and political pull must operate in an inherently uneven playing field and face these risks. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I thought conservatives were against &quot;special treatment&quot;.  The bigger the target, the more resources they have at their disposal to defend themselves. Why is it only a problem when such suits are filed by Muslims? Should critics of Islam and Muslims be treated by a special legal standard? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll take this alarmism more seriously when they give an iota of their attention to questions of due process and transparency in anti-terror witchhunts and equally harassing lawsuits *against* Muslims. Seems their beef isn&#039;t with the tactic, but the target.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gaffney&#039;s use of the image of Gulliver is apt and very ironic. Taking these sensationalistic charges from people who have long track records of fomenting prejudice at face value for a moment for the sake of conversation, I&#039;d argue that in the scheme of things these are pinpricks compared to the instionatlized legal and political abuses we&#039;ve seen against Muslims, Arabs and others in post-9/11 life. And that&#039;s thanks in at least part to the agitation of people like the attendees of this conference. I don&#039;t see it cramping their style (or getting them shipped off to Guantanamo) much.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In a globalized world, it shouldn&#039;t be surprising that there are repercussions to picking fights with people from or tied to other parts of the world. You may have the upper hand at home as you bash some politically impotent minority, but once you leave your home you might taste some of your own medicine. I&#039;m not sure these cases are so tragic given the hysteria and hate these people heap on Muslims. Sounds like karma in a globalized world to me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, notice how they frame it as &quot;lawfare&quot;. As if any lawsuit to seek redress by a Muslim is part of some stealthly military campaign. Muslims, you see are always violent and dangerous, even when they&#039;re just availing themselves of their legal rights as fellow citizens not to be slandered, libeled or otherwise harmed. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The subtext, as usual, is that Muslims are never victims. No matter what you do to &#039;em, they&#039;re at fault, &#039;cause they&#039;re evil. Obviously, they don&#039;t deserve the ability to seek legal redress like you or me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That, folks, is prejudice and hate in its purest form. And it bubbles just beneath the surface all over the political landscape today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no sympathy for frivolous lawsuits of any sort, regardless of the politics of the filer, but to the extent these charges are true, they seem to me merely symptoms of the excessive (and well known) role played by money in law, not the sinister influence of Islamists behind the scenes. All activists going toe to toe with folks with deep pockets and political pull must operate in an inherently uneven playing field and face these risks. </p>
<p>I thought conservatives were against &#8220;special treatment&#8221;.  The bigger the target, the more resources they have at their disposal to defend themselves. Why is it only a problem when such suits are filed by Muslims? Should critics of Islam and Muslims be treated by a special legal standard? </p>
<p>I&#39;ll take this alarmism more seriously when they give an iota of their attention to questions of due process and transparency in anti-terror witchhunts and equally harassing lawsuits *against* Muslims. Seems their beef isn&#39;t with the tactic, but the target.</p>
<p>Gaffney&#39;s use of the image of Gulliver is apt and very ironic. Taking these sensationalistic charges from people who have long track records of fomenting prejudice at face value for a moment for the sake of conversation, I&#39;d argue that in the scheme of things these are pinpricks compared to the instionatlized legal and political abuses we&#39;ve seen against Muslims, Arabs and others in post-9/11 life. And that&#39;s thanks in at least part to the agitation of people like the attendees of this conference. I don&#39;t see it cramping their style (or getting them shipped off to Guantanamo) much.</p>
<p>In a globalized world, it shouldn&#39;t be surprising that there are repercussions to picking fights with people from or tied to other parts of the world. You may have the upper hand at home as you bash some politically impotent minority, but once you leave your home you might taste some of your own medicine. I&#39;m not sure these cases are so tragic given the hysteria and hate these people heap on Muslims. Sounds like karma in a globalized world to me.</p>
<p>Finally, notice how they frame it as &#8220;lawfare&#8221;. As if any lawsuit to seek redress by a Muslim is part of some stealthly military campaign. Muslims, you see are always violent and dangerous, even when they&#39;re just availing themselves of their legal rights as fellow citizens not to be slandered, libeled or otherwise harmed. </p>
<p>The subtext, as usual, is that Muslims are never victims. No matter what you do to &#39;em, they&#39;re at fault, &#39;cause they&#39;re evil. Obviously, they don&#39;t deserve the ability to seek legal redress like you or me.</p>
<p>That, folks, is prejudice and hate in its purest form. And it bubbles just beneath the surface all over the political landscape today.</p>
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		<title>By: svend</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/43671/conservatives-poised-to-fight-islamist-lawfare/comment-page-1#comment-32221</link>
		<dc:creator>svend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no sympathy for frivolous lawsuits of any sort, regardless of the politics of the filer, but to the extent these charges are true, they seem to me merely symptoms of the excessive (and well known) role played by money in law, not the sinister influence of Islamists behind the scenes. All activists going toe to toe with folks with deep pockets and political pull must operate in an inherently uneven playing field and face these risks. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I thought conservatives were against &quot;special treatment&quot;.  The bigger the target, the more resources they have at their disposal to defend themselves. Why is it only a problem when such suits are filed by Muslims? Should critics of Islam and Muslims be treated by a special legal standard? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll take this alarmism more seriously when they give an iota of their attention to questions of due process and transparency in anti-terror witchhunts and equally harassing lawsuits *against* Muslims. Seems their beef isn&#039;t with the tactic, but the target.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gaffney&#039;s use of the image of Gulliver is apt and very ironic. Taking these sensationalistic charges from people who have long track records of fomenting prejudice at face value for a moment for the sake of conversation, I&#039;d argue that in the scheme of things these are pinpricks compared to the instionatlized legal and political abuses we&#039;ve seen against Muslims, Arabs and others in post-9/11 life. And that&#039;s thanks in at least part to the agitation of people like the attendees of this conference. I don&#039;t see it cramping their style (or getting them shipped off to Guantanamo) much.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In a globalized world, it shouldn&#039;t be surprising that there are repercussions to picking fights with people from or tied to other parts of the world. You may have the upper hand at home as you bash some politically impotent minority, but once you leave your home you might taste some of your own medicine. I&#039;m not sure these cases are so tragic given the hysteria and hate these people heap on Muslims. Sounds like karma in a globalized world to me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, notice how they frame it as &quot;lawfare&quot;. As if any lawsuit to seek redress by a Muslim is part of some stealthly military campaign. Muslims, you see are always violent and dangerous, even when they&#039;re just availing themselves of their legal rights as fellow citizens not to be slandered, libeled or otherwise harmed. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The subtext, as usual, is that Muslims are never victims. No matter what you do to &#039;em, they&#039;re at fault, &#039;cause they&#039;re evil. Obviously, they don&#039;t deserve the ability to seek legal redress like you or me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That, folks, is prejudice and hate in its purest form. And it bubbles just beneath the surface all over the political landscape today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no sympathy for frivolous lawsuits of any sort, regardless of the politics of the filer, but to the extent these charges are true, they seem to me merely symptoms of the excessive (and well known) role played by money in law, not the sinister influence of Islamists behind the scenes. All activists going toe to toe with folks with deep pockets and political pull must operate in an inherently uneven playing field and face these risks. </p>
<p>I thought conservatives were against &#8220;special treatment&#8221;.  The bigger the target, the more resources they have at their disposal to defend themselves. Why is it only a problem when such suits are filed by Muslims? Should critics of Islam and Muslims be treated by a special legal standard? </p>
<p>I&#39;ll take this alarmism more seriously when they give an iota of their attention to questions of due process and transparency in anti-terror witchhunts and equally harassing lawsuits *against* Muslims. Seems their beef isn&#39;t with the tactic, but the target.</p>
<p>Gaffney&#39;s use of the image of Gulliver is apt and very ironic. Taking these sensationalistic charges from people who have long track records of fomenting prejudice at face value for a moment for the sake of conversation, I&#39;d argue that in the scheme of things these are pinpricks compared to the instionatlized legal and political abuses we&#39;ve seen against Muslims, Arabs and others in post-9/11 life. And that&#39;s thanks in at least part to the agitation of people like the attendees of this conference. I don&#39;t see it cramping their style (or getting them shipped off to Guantanamo) much.</p>
<p>In a globalized world, it shouldn&#39;t be surprising that there are repercussions to picking fights with people from or tied to other parts of the world. You may have the upper hand at home as you bash some politically impotent minority, but once you leave your home you might taste some of your own medicine. I&#39;m not sure these cases are so tragic given the hysteria and hate these people heap on Muslims. Sounds like karma in a globalized world to me.</p>
<p>Finally, notice how they frame it as &#8220;lawfare&#8221;. As if any lawsuit to seek redress by a Muslim is part of some stealthly military campaign. Muslims, you see are always violent and dangerous, even when they&#39;re just availing themselves of their legal rights as fellow citizens not to be slandered, libeled or otherwise harmed. </p>
<p>The subtext, as usual, is that Muslims are never victims. No matter what you do to &#39;em, they&#39;re at fault, &#39;cause they&#39;re evil. Obviously, they don&#39;t deserve the ability to seek legal redress like you or me.</p>
<p>That, folks, is prejudice and hate in its purest form. And it bubbles just beneath the surface all over the political landscape today.</p>
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		<title>By: sweet dissident</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/43671/conservatives-poised-to-fight-islamist-lawfare/comment-page-1#comment-31373</link>
		<dc:creator>sweet dissident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 10:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for bit of a typo below.   I meant of course that it doesn&#039;t surprise me to see Dershowitz involved in something which protects perpetrators of libel from being rightly sued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for bit of a typo below.   I meant of course that it doesn&#39;t surprise me to see Dershowitz involved in something which protects perpetrators of libel from being rightly sued.</p>
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		<title>By: sweet dissident</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweet dissident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t surprise me that Dershowitz is involved in anything which protects people from libel.  Libel is his occupation (and slander is his hobby).  There is libel in his books, and on his web site, and he knows this, and that he can commit it with impunity, for he is powerful, ruthless, and wealthy.  (Shame, shame on Harvard)!  Why is it called the &quot;Free Speech Protection Act?&quot;  Why not call it what it is?  &quot;The anti-Muslim, anti-Arab, pro-Israeli Military Libel Protection Act?&quot;  Note to Israel apologists and American jingoists (who care nothing for the character of the U.S. and Israel) who cannot back up their claims with substance and evidence, and so instead resort to ad hominem attacks:  don&#039;t commit libel, and then you won&#039;t be successfully sued for it.  Why not, instead, engage in the activity that so many of your noted &quot;enemies&quot; do?  It&#039;s called scholarship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#39;t surprise me that Dershowitz is involved in anything which protects people from libel.  Libel is his occupation (and slander is his hobby).  There is libel in his books, and on his web site, and he knows this, and that he can commit it with impunity, for he is powerful, ruthless, and wealthy.  (Shame, shame on Harvard)!  Why is it called the &#8220;Free Speech Protection Act?&#8221;  Why not call it what it is?  &#8220;The anti-Muslim, anti-Arab, pro-Israeli Military Libel Protection Act?&#8221;  Note to Israel apologists and American jingoists (who care nothing for the character of the U.S. and Israel) who cannot back up their claims with substance and evidence, and so instead resort to ad hominem attacks:  don&#39;t commit libel, and then you won&#39;t be successfully sued for it.  Why not, instead, engage in the activity that so many of your noted &#8220;enemies&#8221; do?  It&#39;s called scholarship.</p>
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		<title>By: Stopping frivolous (and expensive) libel lawsuits &#171; Later On</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stopping frivolous (and expensive) libel lawsuits &#171; Later On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 19:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in Daily life, Government, Law at 12:21 pm by LeisureGuy Interesting story by David Weigel in the Washington Independent: In February, Sens. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.) and Joe [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in Daily life, Government, Law at 12:21 pm by LeisureGuy Interesting story by David Weigel in the Washington Independent: In February, Sens. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.) and Joe [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SHEIKHMO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHEIKHMO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IN THE NAME OF ALLAH-THE BENEFICENT-THE MERCIFUL:SAY:HE,ALLAH IS ONE.ALLAH IS HE ON WHOM ALL DEPEND.HE BEGETS NOT,NOR IS HE BEGOTTEN.AND NONE IS LIKE HIM.[QUR&#039;AN:112]- &quot; THE WHITE MAN MADE US MANY PROMISES.HE PROMISED TO TAKE OUR LAND AND HE TOOK IT.&quot; { RED CLOUD -bURY MY HEART AT WOUNDED KNEE,&quot; DEE BROWN]. AS A MUSLIM AND ONE OF AFRICAN DESCENT  IT IS IMPERATIVE FOR MUSLIMS WHO ARE INDIGENOUS TO AMERICA VIA THE IMPOSITION OF CHATTEL SLAVERY TO SEEK THE LAWS TO CHARGE AMERICA WITH GENOCIDE OF AFRICAN AMERICANS AND OBTAIN REPARATIONS AS WELL FOR BEING KIDNAPPED AND TORTURED AND MURDERED FROM MAY 14,1607 TO THE PRESENT.NO MUSLIM HAD ANYHTING TO DO WITH THE ATROCITIES THAT HAPPENED ON 9-11-2001.THIS IS THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED 11-22-1963 IN DALLAS,TEXAS. THE JUNIOR SENATOR OF THE WARREN COMMISSION WAS SENATOR SPECTER.AMERICA IS AT WAR WITH ISLAM AND MUSLIMS AND THIS IS MANIFESTED IN THE SUSTAING OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL AT THE EXPENSE OF THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS.WHOEVER HAD AN ALLY THAT NEVER HAD A SOLDIER DIE IN BATTLES WITH THEM ? WHAT WILL I OR ANYONE BE SUED FOR IN REGARDS TO SEEKING AN INVESTIGATION OF THE USS LIBERTY IN 1967 ?   THANK YOU-DAWAH_MA_90221@YAHOO.COM-TAIF&#039;TUL&#039;ISLAM-P.O.BOX 338-COMPTON,CA.90223</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IN THE NAME OF ALLAH-THE BENEFICENT-THE MERCIFUL:SAY:HE,ALLAH IS ONE.ALLAH IS HE ON WHOM ALL DEPEND.HE BEGETS NOT,NOR IS HE BEGOTTEN.AND NONE IS LIKE HIM.[QUR&#39;AN:112]- &#8221; THE WHITE MAN MADE US MANY PROMISES.HE PROMISED TO TAKE OUR LAND AND HE TOOK IT.&#8221; { RED CLOUD -bURY MY HEART AT WOUNDED KNEE,&#8221; DEE BROWN]. AS A MUSLIM AND ONE OF AFRICAN DESCENT  IT IS IMPERATIVE FOR MUSLIMS WHO ARE INDIGENOUS TO AMERICA VIA THE IMPOSITION OF CHATTEL SLAVERY TO SEEK THE LAWS TO CHARGE AMERICA WITH GENOCIDE OF AFRICAN AMERICANS AND OBTAIN REPARATIONS AS WELL FOR BEING KIDNAPPED AND TORTURED AND MURDERED FROM MAY 14,1607 TO THE PRESENT.NO MUSLIM HAD ANYHTING TO DO WITH THE ATROCITIES THAT HAPPENED ON 9-11-2001.THIS IS THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED 11-22-1963 IN DALLAS,TEXAS. THE JUNIOR SENATOR OF THE WARREN COMMISSION WAS SENATOR SPECTER.AMERICA IS AT WAR WITH ISLAM AND MUSLIMS AND THIS IS MANIFESTED IN THE SUSTAING OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL AT THE EXPENSE OF THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS.WHOEVER HAD AN ALLY THAT NEVER HAD A SOLDIER DIE IN BATTLES WITH THEM ? WHAT WILL I OR ANYONE BE SUED FOR IN REGARDS TO SEEKING AN INVESTIGATION OF THE USS LIBERTY IN 1967 ?   THANK <a href="mailto:YOU-DAWAH_MA_90221@YAHOO.COM">YOU-DAWAH_MA_90221@YAHOO.COM</a>-TAIF&#39;TUL&#39;ISLAM-P.O.BOX 338-COMPTON,CA.90223</p>
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		<title>By: Kingdavid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kingdavid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 13:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A typical ignorant. How do you suggest we stop Islam from spreading? By force? Is there anyone now spreading Islam by the sword? If I want to become Muslim then it&#039;s my freedom of choice. From what I know about Islam so far, it respects women and prevents them being used as sex objects. Are we so blind that we just shut down our brains and do not tolerate others and their believes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A typical ignorant. How do you suggest we stop Islam from spreading? By force? Is there anyone now spreading Islam by the sword? If I want to become Muslim then it&#39;s my freedom of choice. From what I know about Islam so far, it respects women and prevents them being used as sex objects. Are we so blind that we just shut down our brains and do not tolerate others and their believes?</p>
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		<title>By: LegalizeDrugs</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/43671/conservatives-poised-to-fight-islamist-lawfare/comment-page-1#comment-31138</link>
		<dc:creator>LegalizeDrugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 06:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Islam is an existential threat to Isreal and the United States and our western culture in general. Islam is not a religion, it is a vicious ideology that hates women and freedom. Stop the spread of Islam now before it totally poisons our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islam is an existential threat to Isreal and the United States and our western culture in general. Islam is not a religion, it is a vicious ideology that hates women and freedom. Stop the spread of Islam now before it totally poisons our country.</p>
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		<title>By: hydrokat</title>
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		<dc:creator>hydrokat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 05:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like they said, it&#039;s a start. We must protect our freedom of speech here in America. We see what has transpired in Europe and it would be foolish to think it won&#039;t be tried here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like they said, it&#39;s a start. We must protect our freedom of speech here in America. We see what has transpired in Europe and it would be foolish to think it won&#39;t be tried here.</p>
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		<title>By: Aramail Phone Cards &#187; Conservatives Poised to Fight ‘Islamist Lawfare’</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aramail Phone Cards &#187; Conservatives Poised to Fight ‘Islamist Lawfare’</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 04:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Original post: Conservatives Poised to Fight ‘Islamist Lawfare’ [...]</description>
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