Comments on: The Significance of Ali Al-Marri’s Guilty Plea http://washingtonindependent.com/41551/the-significance-of-ali-al-marris-guilty-plea National News in Context Sun, 04 Mar 2012 13:30:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Marnie http://washingtonindependent.com/41551/the-significance-of-ali-al-marris-guilty-plea/comment-page-1#comment-35628 Marnie Sun, 03 May 2009 19:45:19 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41551#comment-35628 LIke I have been saying for almost a year BushLite. LIke I have been saying for almost a year BushLite.

]]> By: Marnie http://washingtonindependent.com/41551/the-significance-of-ali-al-marris-guilty-plea/comment-page-1#comment-29538 Marnie Sun, 03 May 2009 12:45:19 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41551#comment-29538 LIke I have been saying for almost a year BushLite. LIke I have been saying for almost a year BushLite.

]]> By: Good2Go http://washingtonindependent.com/41551/the-significance-of-ali-al-marris-guilty-plea/comment-page-1#comment-29483 Good2Go Sat, 02 May 2009 18:52:59 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41551#comment-29483 I don't believe the guilty plea of Al-Marri, who as you said has been held for almost six years without charge in a Navy brig, demonstrates anything without further scrutiny. People admitting to acts they didn't commit isn't exactly uncommon. And the circumstances of Al-Marri's captivity don't especially lend themselves to a credible guilty plea. The real point, way beyond holding alleged "terrorists" (a pretty dicey term to begin with) in the US is: what do we think these people did, can we prove it, and was it really illegal? I don't believe the guilty plea of Al-Marri, who as you said has been held for almost six years without charge in a Navy brig, demonstrates anything without further scrutiny. People admitting to acts they didn't commit isn't exactly uncommon. And the circumstances of Al-Marri's captivity don't especially lend themselves to a credible guilty plea. The real point, way beyond holding alleged “terrorists” (a pretty dicey term to begin with) in the US is: what do we think these people did, can we prove it, and was it really illegal?

]]> By: Hawaiian style http://washingtonindependent.com/41551/the-significance-of-ali-al-marris-guilty-plea/comment-page-1#comment-29465 Hawaiian style Sat, 02 May 2009 16:25:04 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41551#comment-29465 If the state secret defense is limited to specific points and not allowed as a blanket defense, and if the SS defense is reviewable by the court there is no reason why the Federal courts can't do the work.<br><br>Further who made Gates the Attorney General for terrorists? I think he has assumed this power to impose his will on the process. <br><br>How can we be a nation of laws, with ALL men endowed with unalienable rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness when we feel entitled to hold prisoners indefinitely without charges. Further how in the hell can we do that to US citizens after the Supreme Court said the enemy combatant declaration of the President as a basis for such detention illegal?<br><br>Guantanamo PRISONERS, who I assume are the folks that you are calling "detainees", should be divided into two groups. Those that are held for cause and those that are not. The ones with no probable cause should be released, and the others tried in a Federal Court. <br><br>Changing the justice rules of the game because we were the ones bombed seems not only cowardly, but hypocritical and unjust. We as a nation held our justice system, where no man was above the law, where justice was blind, where every man was entitled to equal justice under the law, with a right to a lawyer and habeas corpus up to the world as an example to all nations. Now because our ox was gored we change the rules or just ignore them. We even become a nation that tortures to boot.<br><br>Shameful. I am tempted to say we are better than that, but with Obama ducking the issue of prosecution, and Holder doing nothing I am beginning to wonder.<br><br>Why does Obama keep the right to imprison a US citizen without due process??? If the state secret defense is limited to specific points and not allowed as a blanket defense, and if the SS defense is reviewable by the court there is no reason why the Federal courts can't do the work.

Further who made Gates the Attorney General for terrorists? I think he has assumed this power to impose his will on the process.

How can we be a nation of laws, with ALL men endowed with unalienable rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness when we feel entitled to hold prisoners indefinitely without charges. Further how in the hell can we do that to US citizens after the Supreme Court said the enemy combatant declaration of the President as a basis for such detention illegal?

Guantanamo PRISONERS, who I assume are the folks that you are calling “detainees”, should be divided into two groups. Those that are held for cause and those that are not. The ones with no probable cause should be released, and the others tried in a Federal Court.

Changing the justice rules of the game because we were the ones bombed seems not only cowardly, but hypocritical and unjust. We as a nation held our justice system, where no man was above the law, where justice was blind, where every man was entitled to equal justice under the law, with a right to a lawyer and habeas corpus up to the world as an example to all nations. Now because our ox was gored we change the rules or just ignore them. We even become a nation that tortures to boot.

Shameful. I am tempted to say we are better than that, but with Obama ducking the issue of prosecution, and Holder doing nothing I am beginning to wonder.

Why does Obama keep the right to imprison a US citizen without due process???

]]> By: Analiese’s Reading 5/2 | Quiche Moraine http://washingtonindependent.com/41551/the-significance-of-ali-al-marris-guilty-plea/comment-page-1#comment-29438 Analiese’s Reading 5/2 | Quiche Moraine Sat, 02 May 2009 12:18:43 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41551#comment-29438 [...] Washington Independent [...] [...] Washington Independent [...]

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