Comments on: Krugman: Cap-and-Trade Might Stimulate Economy http://washingtonindependent.com/41483/krugman-cap-and-trade-might-stimulate-economy National News in Context Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:07:45 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: greg http://washingtonindependent.com/41483/krugman-cap-and-trade-might-stimulate-economy/comment-page-1#comment-36362 greg Sat, 02 May 2009 04:40:04 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41483#comment-36362 Im an Economist .Your Liberal jargon means nothing to me .California,and New York ,are the 2 biggest whack job states,and they are bankrupt.Oshama will do for us the same he did for Chicago---Nothing.Anyone who thinks the government can run any industry better than a free market is a fool.Any one who thinks that they are getting a tax break is a fool.This 12 dollars a week =maybe 500-800 a year.Energy under cap and trade will cost you 1000 a year extra.The cost of living will go up.I bet your property tax goes up.Who do you think will pay for this 10 Trillion dollar budget.YOU AND ME.A 20 year old kid right now owes the government 121,000 dollars.YOU HAVE BEEN SHAMED.You better not get sick under universal health care either.Trust me .We are so fucked with this SOCIAL ENGENEERING PROJECT.Did you not look into Obama,Who he Worships,What he reads.This country is heading for CIVLE WAR.Capitalism vs. Socialism.Are you blind or retarded.Can you not see the Media Has blindsided America. Im an Economist .Your Liberal jargon means nothing to me .California,and New York ,are the 2 biggest whack job states,and they are bankrupt.Oshama will do for us the same he did for Chicago—Nothing.Anyone who thinks the government can run any industry better than a free market is a fool.Any one who thinks that they are getting a tax break is a fool.This 12 dollars a week =maybe 500-800 a year.Energy under cap and trade will cost you 1000 a year extra.The cost of living will go up.I bet your property tax goes up.Who do you think will pay for this 10 Trillion dollar budget.YOU AND ME.A 20 year old kid right now owes the government 121,000 dollars.YOU HAVE BEEN SHAMED.You better not get sick under universal health care either.Trust me .We are so fucked with this SOCIAL ENGENEERING PROJECT.Did you not look into Obama,Who he Worships,What he reads.This country is heading for CIVLE WAR.Capitalism vs. Socialism.Are you blind or retarded.Can you not see the Media Has blindsided America.

]]> By: Brook http://washingtonindependent.com/41483/krugman-cap-and-trade-might-stimulate-economy/comment-page-1#comment-36358 Brook Sat, 02 May 2009 01:36:36 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41483#comment-36358 LOL, Dick makes my point for me. Given the scientific facts about growing Antarctic ice, we've got a greater danger of falling sea levels -- but don't let a scientific fact get in the way of your Al Gore inspired dreams.<br><br>Hey, Dick, if we we are on the verge of a major cooling phase, as I believe, are you going to come out here and tell us we better start burning trees, driving SUV's, and building carbon energy plants -- you know to keep from freezing? Because I think a lot of people might think that idea SOUNDS CRAZY! LOL, Dick makes my point for me. Given the scientific facts about growing Antarctic ice, we've got a greater danger of falling sea levels — but don't let a scientific fact get in the way of your Al Gore inspired dreams.

Hey, Dick, if we we are on the verge of a major cooling phase, as I believe, are you going to come out here and tell us we better start burning trees, driving SUV's, and building carbon energy plants — you know to keep from freezing? Because I think a lot of people might think that idea SOUNDS CRAZY!

]]> By: Swami_Binkinanda http://washingtonindependent.com/41483/krugman-cap-and-trade-might-stimulate-economy/comment-page-1#comment-36357 Swami_Binkinanda Sat, 02 May 2009 01:09:51 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41483#comment-36357 Liberals are hopeful, not hopeless. Conservatives are hopeless, gutless, and nutless it seems right now. The party of No! simply wants nothing more than to sit on its big fat rump and throw a tantrum instead of digging in to do the hard work that needs to be done to save this country. You all simply won't admit that you had your shot repeatedly with Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II, and back to Nixon only to find your political and social philosophy doesn't work and is as fraudulent as communism and fascism. Global warming is real even if only a third of the people are smart enough to accept the scientific consensus. It doesn't matter that the oil companies' study proved the public researchers' point in 1995. <br>Stupid people will be sucked in by TV commercials and propaganda every time, and if it wasn't the whole world at stake it would be okay for you all to starve at home in your Snuggli with a shamwow soaking up your drool, watching Fox Propaganda news. What happens when California and Mexico are droughted into dustbowls? When the grain bowl of America becomes a dustbowl as well? When the fruits and vegetables of Idaho, Oregon, Washington are no longer growable, and the groundwater of Florida is infiltrated with the rising Atlantic? You can eat your beliefs then, I guess, or you can educate yourself and get off your cheetoh rump and push for a green future that is carbon neutral and most of all profitable. <br>Getting in on the ground floor has rewards where staying home from the prom and crying how life is unfair has little to recommend it. Liberals are hopeful, not hopeless. Conservatives are hopeless, gutless, and nutless it seems right now. The party of No! simply wants nothing more than to sit on its big fat rump and throw a tantrum instead of digging in to do the hard work that needs to be done to save this country. You all simply won't admit that you had your shot repeatedly with Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II, and back to Nixon only to find your political and social philosophy doesn't work and is as fraudulent as communism and fascism. Global warming is real even if only a third of the people are smart enough to accept the scientific consensus. It doesn't matter that the oil companies' study proved the public researchers' point in 1995.
Stupid people will be sucked in by TV commercials and propaganda every time, and if it wasn't the whole world at stake it would be okay for you all to starve at home in your Snuggli with a shamwow soaking up your drool, watching Fox Propaganda news. What happens when California and Mexico are droughted into dustbowls? When the grain bowl of America becomes a dustbowl as well? When the fruits and vegetables of Idaho, Oregon, Washington are no longer growable, and the groundwater of Florida is infiltrated with the rising Atlantic? You can eat your beliefs then, I guess, or you can educate yourself and get off your cheetoh rump and push for a green future that is carbon neutral and most of all profitable.
Getting in on the ground floor has rewards where staying home from the prom and crying how life is unfair has little to recommend it.

]]> By: Aaron Wiener http://washingtonindependent.com/41483/krugman-cap-and-trade-might-stimulate-economy/comment-page-1#comment-36361 Aaron Wiener Fri, 01 May 2009 23:45:16 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41483#comment-36361 Thanks for the comment, werewatching, but I'm not sure where you're getting your information about the poorest states. Looking at the personal per capita income by state, we see that the wealthiest 12 states and districts (DC, CT, NJ, MA, MD, NY, NH, MN, CO, CA, IL, VA) all voted for Barack Obama last November, while the four poorest (MS, AR, WV, UT) all voted for John McCain. Based on 2005 data:<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_the_United_States_by_income#States_ranked_by_personal_per_capita_income" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_the_Unit...</a><br><br>Similar rankings based on slightly different data yield comparable results.<br><br>Please let me know where you got your information, and which 2 states you're referring to. Thanks for the comment, werewatching, but I'm not sure where you're getting your information about the poorest states. Looking at the personal per capita income by state, we see that the wealthiest 12 states and districts (DC, CT, NJ, MA, MD, NY, NH, MN, CO, CA, IL, VA) all voted for Barack Obama last November, while the four poorest (MS, AR, WV, UT) all voted for John McCain. Based on 2005 data:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_the_Unit...

Similar rankings based on slightly different data yield comparable results.

Please let me know where you got your information, and which 2 states you're referring to.

]]> By: Brook http://washingtonindependent.com/41483/krugman-cap-and-trade-might-stimulate-economy/comment-page-1#comment-36356 Brook Fri, 01 May 2009 23:26:34 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41483#comment-36356 Is it me or was Krugman a lot smarter as a Bush basher? This was the guy that went on Fox and said we weren't paying high taxes in this country, failing to realize residents of NY pay MORE than most EU countries. My father once told me government would figure out how to make us pay for the air we breathe someday. Dad, you were right. I'm just glad he's not alive now to see what has happened to his country.<br><br>Liberals are hopeless. Cap and trade HASN'T WORKED in the EU, after 2 attempts. It's been a mess. This doesn't phase the Krugman's of the world. Blissful ignorance is a warm, fuzzy place to reside.<br><br>Let's add the iceing on the cake -- that only 32% of Americans now believe in man-made global warming. This means they're going to shove a massive tax on us, based on a theory we don't believe in. Furthermore, Al Gore is blatantly lying about diminishing ice caps. The latest report is clear -- ice is expanding in the Antarctic and has been since the 70's. Again, Krugman pushes ahead and damn the torpedos. One can only wish for Spring 2010 after another bitter cold winter. Who is going to listen to any of these blowhards then? Is it me or was Krugman a lot smarter as a Bush basher? This was the guy that went on Fox and said we weren't paying high taxes in this country, failing to realize residents of NY pay MORE than most EU countries. My father once told me government would figure out how to make us pay for the air we breathe someday. Dad, you were right. I'm just glad he's not alive now to see what has happened to his country.

Liberals are hopeless. Cap and trade HASN'T WORKED in the EU, after 2 attempts. It's been a mess. This doesn't phase the Krugman's of the world. Blissful ignorance is a warm, fuzzy place to reside.

Let's add the iceing on the cake — that only 32% of Americans now believe in man-made global warming. This means they're going to shove a massive tax on us, based on a theory we don't believe in. Furthermore, Al Gore is blatantly lying about diminishing ice caps. The latest report is clear — ice is expanding in the Antarctic and has been since the 70's. Again, Krugman pushes ahead and damn the torpedos. One can only wish for Spring 2010 after another bitter cold winter. Who is going to listen to any of these blowhards then?

]]> By: werewatching http://washingtonindependent.com/41483/krugman-cap-and-trade-might-stimulate-economy/comment-page-1#comment-36359 werewatching Fri, 01 May 2009 23:09:23 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41483#comment-36359 cap and trade will stimulate GE,and destroy everyone else...Hey wait Oshama is in bed with GE so he can control the media...O shit...we are fucked. cap and trade will stimulate GE,and destroy everyone else…Hey wait Oshama is in bed with GE so he can control the media…O shit…we are fucked.

]]> By: werewatching http://washingtonindependent.com/41483/krugman-cap-and-trade-might-stimulate-economy/comment-page-1#comment-36360 werewatching Fri, 01 May 2009 22:28:43 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41483#comment-36360 Only a fool would think cap and trade is good for anything.Same people who steal taxes for green tech,when investers and the market could do it cheaper and more efficiently.I dont hate Obama but this is not Chicago.Why people do not see government is the problem is beyond my wildest thought.The poor will wait another 50 years for the help thats been on the way for 100 years.The 2 most liberal states are the poorest,the math is not that hard. Only a fool would think cap and trade is good for anything.Same people who steal taxes for green tech,when investers and the market could do it cheaper and more efficiently.I dont hate Obama but this is not Chicago.Why people do not see government is the problem is beyond my wildest thought.The poor will wait another 50 years for the help thats been on the way for 100 years.The 2 most liberal states are the poorest,the math is not that hard.

]]> By: greg http://washingtonindependent.com/41483/krugman-cap-and-trade-might-stimulate-economy/comment-page-1#comment-29407 greg Fri, 01 May 2009 21:40:04 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41483#comment-29407 Im an Economist .Your Liberal jargon means nothing to me .California,and New York ,are the 2 biggest whack job states,and they are bankrupt.Oshama will do for us the same he did for Chicago---Nothing.Anyone who thinks the government can run any industry better than a free market is a fool.Any one who thinks that they are getting a tax break is a fool.This 12 dollars a week =maybe 500-800 a year.Energy under cap and trade will cost you 1000 a year extra.The cost of living will go up.I bet your property tax goes up.Who do you think will pay for this 10 Trillion dollar budget.YOU AND ME.A 20 year old kid right now owes the government 121,000 dollars.YOU HAVE BEEN SHAMED.You better not get sick under universal health care either.Trust me .We are so fucked with this SOCIAL ENGENEERING PROJECT.Did you not look into Obama,Who he Worships,What he reads.This country is heading for CIVLE WAR.Capitalism vs. Socialism.Are you blind or retarded.Can you not see the Media Has blindsided America. Im an Economist .Your Liberal jargon means nothing to me .California,and New York ,are the 2 biggest whack job states,and they are bankrupt.Oshama will do for us the same he did for Chicago—Nothing.Anyone who thinks the government can run any industry better than a free market is a fool.Any one who thinks that they are getting a tax break is a fool.This 12 dollars a week =maybe 500-800 a year.Energy under cap and trade will cost you 1000 a year extra.The cost of living will go up.I bet your property tax goes up.Who do you think will pay for this 10 Trillion dollar budget.YOU AND ME.A 20 year old kid right now owes the government 121,000 dollars.YOU HAVE BEEN SHAMED.You better not get sick under universal health care either.Trust me .We are so fucked with this SOCIAL ENGENEERING PROJECT.Did you not look into Obama,Who he Worships,What he reads.This country is heading for CIVLE WAR.Capitalism vs. Socialism.Are you blind or retarded.Can you not see the Media Has blindsided America.

]]> By: Brook http://washingtonindependent.com/41483/krugman-cap-and-trade-might-stimulate-economy/comment-page-1#comment-29391 Brook Fri, 01 May 2009 18:36:36 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41483#comment-29391 LOL, Dick makes my point for me. Given the scientific facts about growing Antarctic ice, we've got a greater danger of falling sea levels -- but don't let a scientific fact get in the way of your Al Gore inspired dreams.<br><br>Hey, Dick, if we we are on the verge of a major cooling phase, as I believe, are you going to come out here and tell us we better start burning trees, driving SUV's, and building carbon energy plants -- you know to keep from freezing? Because I think a lot of people might think that idea SOUNDS CRAZY! LOL, Dick makes my point for me. Given the scientific facts about growing Antarctic ice, we've got a greater danger of falling sea levels — but don't let a scientific fact get in the way of your Al Gore inspired dreams.

Hey, Dick, if we we are on the verge of a major cooling phase, as I believe, are you going to come out here and tell us we better start burning trees, driving SUV's, and building carbon energy plants — you know to keep from freezing? Because I think a lot of people might think that idea SOUNDS CRAZY!

]]> By: Dick Hertz http://washingtonindependent.com/41483/krugman-cap-and-trade-might-stimulate-economy/comment-page-1#comment-29385 Dick Hertz Fri, 01 May 2009 18:09:51 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=41483#comment-29385 Liberals are hopeful, not hopeless. Conservatives are hopeless, gutless, and nutless it seems right now. The party of No! simply wants nothing more than to sit on its big fat rump and throw a tantrum instead of digging in to do the hard work that needs to be done to save this country. You all simply won't admit that you had your shot repeatedly with Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II, and back to Nixon only to find your political and social philosophy doesn't work and is as fraudulent as communism and fascism. Global warming is real even if only a third of the people are smart enough to accept the scientific consensus. It doesn't matter that the oil companies' study proved the public researchers' point in 1995. <br>Stupid people will be sucked in by TV commercials and propaganda every time, and if it wasn't the whole world at stake it would be okay for you all to starve at home in your Snuggli with a shamwow soaking up your drool, watching Fox Propaganda news. What happens when California and Mexico are droughted into dustbowls? When the grain bowl of America becomes a dustbowl as well? When the fruits and vegetables of Idaho, Oregon, Washington are no longer growable, and the groundwater of Florida is infiltrated with the rising Atlantic? You can eat your beliefs then, I guess, or you can educate yourself and get off your cheetoh rump and push for a green future that is carbon neutral and most of all profitable. <br>Getting in on the ground floor has rewards where staying home from the prom and crying how life is unfair has little to recommend it. Liberals are hopeful, not hopeless. Conservatives are hopeless, gutless, and nutless it seems right now. The party of No! simply wants nothing more than to sit on its big fat rump and throw a tantrum instead of digging in to do the hard work that needs to be done to save this country. You all simply won't admit that you had your shot repeatedly with Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II, and back to Nixon only to find your political and social philosophy doesn't work and is as fraudulent as communism and fascism. Global warming is real even if only a third of the people are smart enough to accept the scientific consensus. It doesn't matter that the oil companies' study proved the public researchers' point in 1995.
Stupid people will be sucked in by TV commercials and propaganda every time, and if it wasn't the whole world at stake it would be okay for you all to starve at home in your Snuggli with a shamwow soaking up your drool, watching Fox Propaganda news. What happens when California and Mexico are droughted into dustbowls? When the grain bowl of America becomes a dustbowl as well? When the fruits and vegetables of Idaho, Oregon, Washington are no longer growable, and the groundwater of Florida is infiltrated with the rising Atlantic? You can eat your beliefs then, I guess, or you can educate yourself and get off your cheetoh rump and push for a green future that is carbon neutral and most of all profitable.
Getting in on the ground floor has rewards where staying home from the prom and crying how life is unfair has little to recommend it.

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