A Blast from Charles Johnson’s Past

It's 2009.

I don't understand – are you saying that no one has a right to change their views when they discover other facts?

How very strange, and dangerous.

Plain and simple. He's a liberal and EVERYTHING is relevant to liberals. Oh, it's 2009…time to change my “conservative” views because 9/11 happened 8 years ago, and that's …like in the past…. Duh. Makes perfect sense.

The old posts you “uncovered” were made long before Pamela Geller began supporting the European neo-Nazi movement. Once Geller went full-crazy, Charles correctly distanced himself.

PS…Notice all of his bootlickers rushing to defend him on here because he “conveniently” posted this link on his website so they can *wink* read about it. Charles does this every time he needs someone to defend him. The old “post-a-link-to-my-website so my followers can-vote/defend me-trick”. They fall in line evvvvery time.

Well lookee here, it seems that Charles and his lizards were enthusiastic supporters of “Nazis” less than two years ago.

What exactly is your point? Is it that once you've made a positive association with somebody, you can never change your mind? Because if not, I fail to see anything remotely controversial about it. Let's not forget that Gellar and Spencer were also on good terms with Johnson at one point, and now they are not. Are they also guilty of some sort of dishonesty or hypocrisy in the matter?

They used to get along. Now they don't. No one who made it through grade school should find this unusual. Time to move on.

How does that link show any kind of support for the guy, much less enthusiastic support? It is sarcasm more easily interpreted as being against the opponents of his action than being for the action. Furthermore, even if the blog's author does support the action, it does not imply support for the person behind it.

So when she was only partly crazy she was OK?

Read the comments.

Oh noes, here comes the cult of Charles!

We wuv u Charles, ur the bestest, we'd give our lives for u!

(Does sitting around and posting COMMENTS all day on ONE site make you a complete loser? I say yes. So any Lizards with more than 20K comments, you really, really, really need to get a life)

Charles Johnson is the past. Little Green Footballs is the past. His blog has tanked and he's having a hard time reeling in new lizards. His latest rantings about Fox News and Glenn Beck are proof positive of Charles becoming unhinged more and more everyday.

His blog is no longer relavant and he is no longer relavant in the blogosphere.

It seems a bit disingenuous for Charles Johnson to hold others to a much higher standard than he holds himself. People have been kicked off his own site, without reprieve, for one off-hand comment that he doesn't like, or sometimes for simply “minusing” one of his posts – he holds them completely punishable for anything they say, but apparently doesn't consider it fair when his own comments are judged by the same standards.

Please disregard oppej. He still has sand in his vajayjay over being banned at LGF.

Yes those comments are illuminating for how much the mind set has changed at LGF.

So you've found some things in the past he now claims to be not proud of.

Surely it is easier to accept someone who admits to being ignorant and has since wisened up as being the good guy, instead of demonising him further?

Look, in 2004, 2005 and 2006 you had Democrats claiming to be against the war but voting for Bush's policies to keep funding it.

We all do things we're not proud of. Charles Johnston has at least the balls to stand up and say that.

He mayn't be a shining beacon, but at least he's trying to make up for past mistakes – a lot better than most other people from the left and right blogosphere that have gotten more and more radical as time went by.

You've discovered what the vast number of former (i.e. banned) members of LGF have discovered: that Charles Johnson is a huge hypocrite with an ego the size of the moon.

Leo, you're argument is missing ONE key point. Charles Johnson NEVER admits when he's wrong. Nice try trying to defend him though.

David-

I've found at least one Geller thread that Johnson has scrubbed from LGF completely. It's the one that linked to her antics with Cindy Sheehan (from July 2007):

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs…

(scroll down to the bottom of the post, and you will discover that this entire thread: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=2… , no longer exists)

So perhaps he is a little embarrassed, contrary to the “people change” line he posted in response to your piece here.

Fun stuff is happening on at LGF2 ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs2.com/category/lgf/ ) including some interesting takes on David Weigel's article here. They refer to him, behind his back, as 'Charles “Nancy” Johnson' or simply as 'Cap'n Queeg' — how did Charles Johnson get so many enemies?

Charles Johnson is a 2 face backstabber. He wants acceptance from the “mainstream” and threw his former allies under the bus. He is nothing but a tool of the Leftists-Islamic alliance. Notice he never goes after Keith Olbermann or Think Progress?

I am keep tracking on all who are defaming me. I have unlimited resources and will play hard ball. Take this as a warning, I always win.

Isaac,
Charles is a coward. He will not leave his Cult-Blog to debate. I would call him to his face, Nancy.

good point.

So he's scrubbing the posts from the past that disagree with his present meme. Others have tried, and failed, to change history: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~hick0088/classes/csci_21… by removing references.

Watching Charles' meltdown over the last twelve months has been a saddening experience. But it was always on the cards. So much of LGF is *my* music preferences, *my* photography, how far *I* cycled today, and *my* opinions. My guess is he has no-one in his life to keep him on an even keel. Who really has the time to moderate his own website for countless hours a week, except an obsessive? To now be caught posting fauxtography himself redefines irony. Nonetheless – like Pat Buchanan – he's done so much great work in the past all true conservatives will forever be in his debt.

[...] Dave Weigel takes a few shots at me today, by digging up some old LGF posts (I’m getting used to this technique, from all sides): The Washington Independent » A Blast from Charles Johnson’s Past. [...]

Well, yeah. Geller posting pictures of herself flipping the bird to people was kinda nutty and childish, and the fact that the LGFers not only hadn't figured it out (as of July '07), but were laughing along with her was something that Johnson would rather forget, apparently.

Who knows what else has been scrubbed.

I'm glad Charles is distancing himself for some of the scummier low-lifes of the right wing. There were an awul lot of digsusting people who latched on to LGF for awhile and I always thought it was a shame that Charles was associated with them. Because I've never found Charles to be a bigot or a fascist at all. many of his readers have been over the years. Charles did the right thing having his Orwell moment and taking a stand against them.

It also should not be underestimated how much Charles posts about evolution have ticked off the Religious Right. But Charles has nothing to apologize for there. Evolution happens to be truth….

Charles doesn't even know what a 'fascist' is. It's easier to blame random people for fascism if you can plead ignorance on the subject. Too much knowledge would ruin a perfectly good blogwar.

Let's take apart one example:

“The only post Weigel dug up that I honestly regret was one from 2004 expressing qualified approval of Vlaams Blok (the neofascist group that morphed into Vlaams Belang), when they were banned by the Belgian government.”

Now, let's see… Vlaams Blok was not a 'neofascist group'. It was a conservative, nationalist and separatist political party. Not 'group', 'party'. Big one, too. Vlaams Blok was not banned by the Belgian government. First, in countries with anything like separation of powers (yes, this concept is fading away in most places), courts ban groups, not governments.

Belgium, while dubious WRT the Rule of Law, still uses courts in matters such as this.

Now, talking of Belgium… CJ is probably not aware that Belgium is not a nation-state, it is a political union created by force in 1831. There are four ethnic groups in Belgium, only two of which matter in this context, the Walloons and the Flemish. The Dutch-speaking Flemish used to be the somewhat backward majority in the north, with the French-speaking Walloons in the south dominating the administration and doing what they can to quell any calls for Flemish independence. This has been the situation since the formation of Belgium.

The Walloon administration is still using its dominance in administration to take pot shots at Flemish independence movements – currently the Vlaams Belang, previously the Vlaams Blok. What happened in 2004 was that one member was convicted (in a dubious court case) of racism, and the peculiar construction of Belgian law was such that any member of Vlaams Blok would be exposed to similar cases due to this conviction. Thus, Vlaams Blok had to be dissolved and a successor party created.

This is the usual stuff that takes place when an independence movement is harrassed by the central government of a state it wishes to see dissolved. Recent cases against VB members Bart Debie and Frank Verhecke follow a similar pattern.

Enter Charles Johnson. He decides that VB (either of them) was/is a fascist movement and that anyone of other opinions are fascist-supporters, fascist-enablers and eurofascists. He's clueless about actual history and politics in Europe, and Belgium in particular. There's no reason to take his slurs seriously.

There's no large European neo-Nazi movement. Except in the mind of CJ. Go there if you want to see it.

This `evidence' provided by the writer of Johnson's links to someone he disavows now is pretty weak.

Johnson is not responsible for the content of Atlas Shrugs or Jihad Watch. If he made a couple of links to them years ago – one of which was to congratulate the blog on its first anniversay – so what?

He subsequently learned that these bloggers were playing kissy-face with fascists, and he made his disagreements about this known.

Johnson has oodles more integrity than this writer, who attempts to smear by association. A real class act.

“Johnson has oodles more integrity than this writer, who attempts to smear by association.”

The irony is certainly not lost on me, Whig. You criticize Weigl for engaging in guilt by association when that is EXACTLY what Charles Johnson does.

Looks like some people see fascists everywhere. It's true. They're under the beds, over the rooftops, in the supermarket, serving your beer, fixing your car, writing your newspapers, mending the fences, nursing the ill, growing the corn.

Or, perhaps not. Perhaps it's just people, and a blogger with a twisted mind.

[...] name-jacker also appears at the Washington Independent, along with a few other vitriol-spewing morons, and an apologist for [...]

Liar.

Like Christopher Hitchens and the bloggers at the leftist-British “Harry's Place”, Charles Johnson is more anti-fascist than anti-Islam. Anti–fascists don't belong to either “side” of the blogosphere.

“Fascism” is usually defined by anti-fascists as a kind of genocidal authoritarianism based on racism. This definition isn't exact, and it ignores fascism's history as an economic/political infrastructure, but using the term “fascist” rather than “genocidal authoritarianism based on racism but not always on a corporate/nationalist economic and political infrastructure” makes for easier writing (and reading).

That’s why Johnson opposes (and has always opposed) European leanings towards “Fascism” as well as “Fascism” in the Muslim world.

Liar.

Like Christopher Hitchens and the bloggers at the leftist-British “Harry's Place”, Charles Johnson is more anti-fascist than anti-Islam. Anti–fascists don't belong to either “side” of the blogosphere.

“Fascism” is usually defined by anti-fascists as a kind of genocidal authoritarianism based on racism. This definition isn't exact, and it ignores fascism's history as an economic/political infrastructure, but using the term “fascist” rather than “genocidal authoritarianism based on racism but not always on a corporate/nationalist economic and political infrastructure” makes for easier writing (and reading).

That’s why Johnson opposes (and has always opposed) European leanings towards “Fascism” as well as “Fascism” in the Muslim world.

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