The Million Militia Man March

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Tuesday, April 21, 2009 at 3:34 pm

Seriously, how can this go wrong? The Ohio Militia, which has maintained a YouTube account since October, is up with a video asking “a million armed militia members” to march on Washington on July 4. (Watch after the jump.)

Partial transcript of narrator “Pale Horse”:

A peaceful demonstration of at least a million — hey, if we can get 10 million, even better — but at least one million armed militia men marching on Washington. A peaceful demonstration. No shooting, no one gets hurt. Just a demonstration. The only difference from any typical demonstration is we will all be armed.

My first instinct is to say “good luck getting a permit for that,” but my second is to point out that if Pale Horse is serious about keeping out felons, he’ll keep out militia leaders like Mark Koernke.

Also note that the pictures in the video are all from President Obama’s inauguration day.

Update: The Ohio Militia has apparently taken the video down from its YouTube page. However, DoubleDoseUS has a videotaped version of the original video up here.

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123 Comments

amaduli
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 12:53 pm

“Legal weapons”…. what are the DC laws about carrying long arms?


DC Resident
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 1:44 pm

Dumbass. “Be there is your a patriot”. If Pale Rider had gone to school, maybe he wouldn't be so deluded.


eclecticbrotha
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 3:01 pm

“A peaceful demonstration. No shooting, no one gets hurt. Just a demonstration.”

A demonstration of what? And why mask the voice?


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Michael
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 3:41 pm

This “Ohio Militia”, which is not really a militia, is just a bunch of nuts with guns who like to like to pretend they really matter. Honest citizens in Ohio know the Organized Militia in Ohio is the Ohio National Guard, the Ohio Military Reserve, and Ohio Naval Militia and that the UnOrganized Militia is the citizens who are not in a militia. Those who pretend to militia members and are not Ohio government employees are just members of criminal gangs with guns who run through the woods pretending to be soldiers. Patriots join the Ohio National Guard, the Ohio Military Reserve, and Ohio Naval Militia, and the selfish idiot who wants only what he wants, joins the fake militias.


vengeful ghost of the north
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 3:53 pm

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord:
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword:
His truth is marching on.

Death to rebel scum.


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Zeke P
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 4:51 pm

How many “armed militia” members did it take the British to burn down the White House?


KCinDC
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 5:29 pm

Senator Ensign should be happy.


Taylor Ruble
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 8:17 pm

I think its a great idea without the guns. It makes no sense to take your gun, and more than likely you'll never get the permits as stated before. Maybe you should start by organizing a march on your capital. And, you may want to get rid of the mask and voice distortion.


Taylor Ruble
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 8:33 pm

Buddy you are about as off base as they come. Look up the Bill of Rights, look at #2 and #9. What's amazing is that you think that the though the average citizen is part of the unorganized militia that somehow they should be unprepared and untrained. In the state I live in, North Carolina, as well as most of the others the Governor can call out the unorganized militia, that means you, in the event of a emergency. For me, I am not going to want to be put in any situation where I am not prepared. Are there rascists and extremists parading as militia? of course. Are there liars and thrives parading as politicians? of course there are. Your distrust of your fellow man shows your indoctrination into a modern American undercurrent that is pervasive in our society. You are truly no better than the rightwing extremist you hate.


Flick
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 5:27 am

As a member of the Virginia militia (click on my name), I'd love to see a million militia members march on Washington D.C. It's not gonna happen, though, but go for it. As for the part about being armed, 1) you would not get a permit for that and 2) what you should really do is plan two marches (and NOT on July 4 when the mall is crowded with a million people anyway to watch the fireworks!). You should plan a march for some time in early fall 2009 with a theme of restoring the constitutional republic. A strong sub-theme reflected in the signs should be “Next time we bring the guns.” Give a deadline for restoring the Constitution, say April 19, 2010. That gives plenty of time for The Party to get its act together and at least make some half-hearted attempt to restore the constitutional republic, and it gives people across the country a chance to think about the approaching deadline and think about their involvement in the follow-on march. You'd get the permit for the first march, but it would need to be understood that you will not be requesting a permit for the second march.

Another march on Washington will mean zilch at this point in America's history unless you/we are prepared to back it up with something…like liberty's teeth. Remember the words of John Kennedy: “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.” There is a similar discussion about just such a march on the main national militia site at http://www.awrm.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_….

Final comment: For those of you who claim to know what we in the militia are all about, have you ever met anyone in the militia? It sure doesn't sound like it. There is a difference between militias and militants. Militias do not see violence as a solution, but rather as a last resort. We in the militia do NOT want to see a call to arms, but we understand that We the People may at some point be required to answer a call to arms, whether formally issued or out of necessity such as in the aftermath of Katrina. Militants see violence as a preferred means to achieving whatever their goals are, and there are militant groups on both the right and the left. Try contacting the unit nearest you (by visiting http://www.awrm.org) and asking them a bunch of questions about racism and the use of violence. You'll find that the answers are not what you'd expect after being spoon-fed all the fearmongering propaganda that the SPLC and ADL spew for the purpose of maintaining their donation levels.

Peace,
Flick


Arthur
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 9:21 am

All this because their party lost?


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Lu Franklin
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 11:39 am

This ignorant KKK level red-neck IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF INTERNAL TERRORISM.
As a former Naval Aviator, it sickens me to see how we have become inundated with white-trash like this TRAITORUS idiot.


history wonk
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 11:46 am

Ya gotta love Mr. Flick. Nothing like the threat of an armed insurrection as a means of exercising your civil rights as a freedom-loving American. Its worked SOOOO well in so many South American countries, African countries, Asian countries, not to mention minor dustups like Kosovo and Serbia. Sure is a lot simpler than this whole election thing, what with having to listen to political ads and go to all that trouble of going to the polls. Much easier to just stick your guns in everybody's face and tell them to shut up and do what you tell them or you'll kill them. Worked for Hitler and the Nazis, why not Mr. Flick and his Nazis.


xx
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 12:11 pm

So, are they going to pay for the security, or are they going to make us tax payers pay for it?


Franklin's Friend
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 12:15 pm

Flick,

I don't understand what you're saying. What part of the constitution needs to be restored, precisely?


Mitchell Hirsch
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 12:19 pm

Yeah, be there if you're the kind of person who doesn't know how to spell “you're”. Well, are you?


Anton
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 12:20 pm

Let me clear something up for you. If you think that you are going to… as a last resort… use violence as a means to a political agenda… you are going to die. You got that? You will be killed. The military will point it's much much much bigger guns at you and kill you. Do you not realize that? Your brains will be splattered on the pavement. The days of violent revolution are over pal. We use our brains and our mouths and we try to persuade our neighbors to our way of thinking. That is all we do now.

This country wasn't handed down to white people from the lord almighty in heaven. It was made by people. It was made with the understanding that change is inevitable. If you don't like change… then persuade your neighbors/community/county/city/state/country with reasoned debate why they shouldn't embrace change.

You don't get to violently force your political agenda on this government. You can die with your brains splattered against the sidewalk trying. But you won't succeed.

And that goes for everyone else in this country. Left, right, center, sideways… you don't get to use violence to further your causes. Any causes.

If you think that you have some right to use violence… well… remember what Jesus said.

You live by the sword and you die by the sword.

Unless you get shot in a way that disarms you and then you get raped in prison for the rest of your life.


Anton
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 12:25 pm

The only thing this video results in is making their cause look insane. And getting attention from FBI and Secret Service.


Progressive Witness
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 12:25 pm

And history once again repeats itself.

“Pale Horse” would do well to remember the example of whinging right-wing nutbag Linda Thompson who in 1994, as the “Acting Adjutant General of the Unorganized Militia of the United States,” announced plans for a massive, miltia-fueled, armed march on Washington, DC on September 19, with the stated goal of placing under arrest and trying for treason any member of Congress who would not immediately act to repeal NAFTA and the Brady Bill.

As soon as it became blindingly evident that the only sure result of such an exercise would be the (rightful) placement of her sorry, treasonous ass in shackles for life, she suddenly announced that it was all just a publicity stunt, and that she had no *actual* plans for such a march.

Y'all are a year ahead of schedule compared to last time. At this rate, you'll be pulling your OKC by next summer, just in time to guarantee an utterly crushing defeat for the Republicans in the 2010 midterm elections.

Carry on, useful idiots. Just try not to murder as many innocent children along the way this time.


Jerry
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 12:42 pm

What an idiot. He's so brave he hides his voice and face? Typical chickens#@t militia type. I bet most of them are so fat they couldn't march 10 feet without Oxygen.


danadevin74
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 12:44 pm

oy vey


spaz
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 12:51 pm

HA! I say DO IT!

Let's get all these weekend warrior idiots together at the same time and watch what happens.

Someone's going to do something stupid. I guaran-damn-tee it. And in a flash, the Washington DC police and the VA National Guard will come in, gas them all, and start sending em off to Guantanamo for acts of domestic terrorism.

That pretty much takes care of all the NRA's membership and a lot of the grassroots base – what's left of it – of the Republican Party. And what will the rest of the country do as they watch the crazies in camo and automatic weapons get shot up and beaten by the Feds? They'll breathe a sigh of relief that these traitors have been away at last.

Can't wait.


Andrew
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 12:52 pm

Second this comment. “Flick”–Threatening the government with armed revolution because you can't win at the ballot box is not patriotism, it's treason. If you start a second civil war you will lose, and I will fight against you. Let go of the fantasy that there is some silent majority who opposes Obama or that people were duped into voting for Obama. Most of us, myself included, knew exactly what we were voting for, and speaking only for myself, I can say that I am largely happy with the results so far, at least in areas where Obama is changing policies from what they were under Bush. On bank bailouts, you and I might find some common ground, but I am guessing that our values diverge sharply beyond that. If you think there is a backlash against Obama beyond the insane fringe you occupy, just look at the approval polls. They don't lie. The fact that his approval is so high amidst the worst economy since the depression means the country supports Obama's agenda. Like Anton said, if you can't accept that, and if you choose to fight it outside the peaceful electoral arena, you will die. And no one will mourn you.


nevrdull
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 1:06 pm

great. lardasses with an inferiority complex and an assault rifle. just. what we. need.


Bleu Demon
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 1:12 pm

Most of these militia dudes are way too fat to be doing any marching. Maybe the “Million Mobility Scooter Ride”…


Offred
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 1:16 pm

Are you frickin' kidding me?

No way in hell is this going to happen.


tovarish
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 1:26 pm

Yeah, All because they lost. All I can say to them is “America, Love it or leave it.”


jay
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 1:27 pm

be there if 'Your' –> 'You're' a true patriot… FFS


Splendid One
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 1:31 pm

Umm, we had election. Where's the damage to the Constitution? It doesn't say anywhere in there that a black guy can't win ;-0


history wonk
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 1:37 pm

I just figured out how to prevent a million man armed militia march. Schedule a paintball tournament for the same weekend along with a couple of military reenactments. That way, these clowns, who only like to play soldier without having the cojones to join the actual military, which happens to be just like their heroes Georgie Boy and Dick “but I thought you were a duck when I shot you” Cheney, but they also have the attention span of retarded gerbil, so they will be so excited they'll forget all about the million moron march and go drink beer while playing soldier.


Faux Spews Propaganda
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 1:38 pm

So the GOP has been out of power for 3 months now? i

Instead of these right-wing extremists (dangerous no matter country you find them) accepting our democratically elected, mulatto President….they're going to have an armed march on DC?!

Keep on throwing rocks at the moon fellaz!

Jesus H. Christ, what a bunch of D-Bags! I almost feel sorry for these poor, uneducated, 21st century klansman.
It must suck to be you……


Elle
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 1:51 pm

What a wonderful way to honor Minister Louis Farrakhan


Christian in NYC
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 2:07 pm

I don't recall Liberals becoming as crazy, utterly lunatic when we “lost” the 2000 election or actually lost in 2004, as the Rightwing seems to have become today.

Wow. These people have frackin' lost their minds. Maybe they always had been this way and we just didn't know it because “their” people were in power and so they weren't so angry.

Dang.


Progressive Witness
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 2:31 pm

It's all happened before, Christian. They considered power to be permanently and rightfully theirs during Reagan and Bush 41, and went this exact sort of crazy when Clinton won. Well, not *exact*, because of course, as they're fond of saying, “9/11 changed everything,” and then there's the whole black-guy/Hussein angle. But on the whole, pretty much the same.


SkipM
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 2:36 pm

HFS…!


grumbly
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 2:57 pm

clearly a joke


Will Bain
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 3:51 pm

Sounds great! All it would take is one nut job to start the shooting. All the marchers around him would have to “take him out”. Of course, they would then be shooters, too, and would have to be taken out. It would spread so fast that in about a minute, there would be only one Minute Man left standing to arrest for domestic terrorism.


Alex
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 5:03 pm

Where exactly can I see the content of this video? Or anything about them actually wanting to do this. The video is set to private.


Jerry
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 5:10 pm

The fat slobs made the video private? How can they achieve their many goals if their promotional videos are made private?


Andrew A. Gill
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 6:25 pm

I assumed that felons was referring to felonious firearms.


ComradeRutherford
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 6:30 pm

“What part of the constitution needs to be restored, precisely?”

Well, after 8 years of Republicans in the executive, most of the US Constitution, and especially the first 8 amendments, have completely been undermined.

And here's “Flick” claiming that their love of training to commit mass murder is somehow the 'last resort' when they want to use armed mob violence to 'restore' the Constitution?

I am always reminded of a food co-op I belonged to, where a half-a-dozen members took over the executive board and renounced the actions of the General Meeting (monthly board meeting) to force more 'democracy' on an uncaring membership that only wanted cheap food.

Why does Flick and his 'militia' hate America so much that they are so eager to utterly destroy our once-great nation???


Progressive Witness
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 6:38 pm

Oh, please tell me somebody downloaded that thing before the cowards hid it…..


Eclectablog
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 7:07 pm

I live about 2 miles from Mark Koernke. That guy is scary. The week after the election he had giant signs posted in front of his house that said “Buy More Ammo NOW!”, “Socialists are Thieves!” and “Buy a Gas Mask NOW!”


Eclectablog
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 7:11 pm

Also adding Mark Koernke is a convicted felon and, therefore, is not allowed to own firearms. Hopefully that will prevent him from attending.


rebeca
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 9:32 pm

yikes! I mean, YIKES!


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Scottman
Comment posted April 23, 2009 @ 12:36 am

This guy has gone round the bend.

Does anyone think a march of armed people is going to accomplish anything positive except scare the hell out of many others?

I've been a gun owner most of my life and I think this has to rank up there with screwing for virginity.

I'm willing to bet this guy is on some law enforcement branch watch list.


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notwit
Comment posted April 23, 2009 @ 1:56 am

Anyone else having trouble playing the clip?

I dunno. I can see it happening but, whoa, why not start small, say, at town parades, prove it's possible, safely, and go from there. I can live in a country where proud gun owners work with local police, etc. to occasionally march to, doh, support the Second Amendment or something. I don't want to do it. I'd just as well be out of town when it happens and I'd hate to sort out the legal issues but if the GOP wants to spend a huge amount of resources making something like this happen, safely, calmly, somewhat rationally, well, I'm okay with them trying it.

We have parades with guns, sometimes lots of guns, fly overs, old military equipment, and so on. So, why not a wingnut parade? I might not go but I'd watch a few minutes on TV. I hope it's better organized than this wingnut parade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_7oG0PItYw.


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Comment posted April 23, 2009 @ 7:02 am

A bad idea whose time has come.


Progressive Witness
Comment posted April 23, 2009 @ 7:34 am

Okay, thankfully, somebody had the presence of mind to capture the thing with their camcorder when they realized they still had it open on their computer from before it was made private by the brave, brave Ohio Militia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfKHH_Fkzzg

Ungainly, but that can't be helped. A worthy service to us all.

I could also point out that someone has already made a parody of it (*cough* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0i6lZe8bdk *cough*) but that would be wrong….


WDC
Comment posted April 23, 2009 @ 8:07 am

When asked by a German if he could handle the Nazis marching into his home town, Humphry Bogart's character in “Casablanca” replied, “There are certain sections of New York City I would advise you not to try to invade.”

On that note, as a resident of DC, I have some great ideas for where to direct these brave militia members should they make a visit to my hometown.


Mahakal
Comment posted April 23, 2009 @ 8:26 am

Why don't we muster these militias and send them to Afghanistan or something?


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Cathy
Comment posted April 23, 2009 @ 9:41 am

How dare they use pictures from Obama's Inaguration to promote this crazy of an idea demonstration. They will never be allowed to do this…


Michael
Comment posted April 23, 2009 @ 12:53 pm

Peaceful? How peaceful can an event be that advertises with a video that shows one of their members on the White House lawn firing a weapon. Patriots don't join fake militias, they join/support the United States Armed Forces, the National Guard and State Defense Forces, the real military/militia.


Michael
Comment posted April 23, 2009 @ 12:54 pm

Peaceful? How peaceful can an event be that advertises with a video that shows one of their members on the White House lawn firing a weapon. Patriots don't join fake militias, they join/support the United States Armed Forces, the National Guard and State Defense Forces, the real military/militia.


Nineteen Kilo
Comment posted April 23, 2009 @ 12:58 pm

Duh, Flick. They want to do it on July 4 so they can claim all the fireworks spectators as supporters. If they do it on any other day, it will look like what it really is: a pitiful gang of camo-poseurs who can't stand the fact that a n****r won the election. Now take your Nathan Bedford Forest fantasies and crawl back under your rock, before I have to use my REAL military firearms training on your traitorous a**. Unlike you cowards, I took the oath. “…all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC…,” Flick. You don't get a free pass on treason just because you're a citizen.


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R.G.
Comment posted April 23, 2009 @ 5:36 pm

If right wing psycho-killers with IQ's below zero set out to take over the country with guns real patriots will put them and their Republican Party controllers in prizon. The militia nuts have no brains, they are little robots controlled by David Duke and New Gingerich & Co. All who would have faught Hitler and Franko have to fight these lunatics. We had an election, and we still have democracy whether the nazi morons like it or not.


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Flick
Comment posted April 24, 2009 @ 6:20 am

Well isn't this precious, a bunch of self-appointed know-it-alls telling me what I believe and what I think is appropriate. Once again, you just confirm that you have no clue what the militia is about. First of all, I state that I am in the militia, so naturally everyone assumes I don't like Obama because he's black. Wrong. I don't like Obama's politics, but not because of his skin color. Second, I say that violence would be a last resort and you assume that what I mean is that I would use or support the use of violence if I don't get my way at the ballot box. You people need to turn off your televisions. May you choke on your own words 'cause they're not mine, nor is that what I believe. In fact, you probably think I'm a Republican, but you'd be wrong there, too.

The militia is designed not to be an offensive organization, but defensive only. Now to the uber-soldier, Nineteen Kilo, you need to get a life, or at least the other half of your brain. A good portion of those in the military see things as I do. The militia is not supposed to be as skilled as a standing army–we are productive citizens providing for ourselves and our families who must buy our own equipment rather than sucking off the public teat and make time to do what little training we can. We don't do this because we want to take over the government or even the local 7-eleven, but because it's prudent to be prepared for emergencies. It is YOU who is the traitorous threat to liberty, not me! And those aren't just my words, but those of America's founders. You think the oath you swore is to whatever the current administration tells you the Constitution means. You probably have no clue what I'm talking about, so I'll spell it out for you.

“A standing army is one of the greatest mischief that can possibly happen” -James Madison

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. the supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States.” -Noah Webster

“Keep within the requisite limits a standing military force, always remembering that an armed and trained militia is the firmest bulwark of republics – that without standing armies their liberty can never be in danger, nor with large ones safe.” -James Madison

“I am for relying, for internal defense, on our militia solely, till actual invasion, and for such naval force only as may protect our coasts and harbors from such depredations as we have experienced; and not for a standing army in time of peace, which may overawe the public sentiment; not for a navy, which, by its own expenses and the eternal wars in which it will implicate us, will grind us with public burdens, and sink us under them. I am for free commerce with all nations; political connection with none; and little or no diplomatic establishment.” -Thomas Jefferson

“None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army” -Thomas Jefferson

“Under every government the [last] resort of the people, is an appeal to the sword; whether to defend themselves against the open attacks of a foreign enemy, or to check the insidious encroachments of domestic foes. Whenever a people…entrust the defence of their country to a regular, standing army, composed of mercenaries, the power of that country will remain under the direction of the most wealthy citizens.” -A Framer (Annonymous framer of the Constitution)

“Whereas civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as military forces, which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” -Tench Coxe

“What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. … Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.” -Elbridge Gerry

“The constitution ought to secure a genuine militia and guard against a select militia [i.e., the National Guard]. … all regulations tending to render this general militia useless and defenseless, by establishing select corps of militia, or distinct bodies of military men [i.e., a standing army], not having permanent interests and attachments to the community ought to be avoided.” -Richard Henry Lee

“…large and permanent military establishments…are forbidden by the principles of free government, and against the necessity of which the militia were meant to be a constitutional bulwark.” -James Madison

“[W]hen the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually, by totally disusing and neglecting the militia.” -George Mason

“Where is it written in the Constitution, in what article or section is it contained, that you may take children from their parents and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battles of any war in which the folly and wickedness of the government may engage itself? Under what concealment has this power lain hidden, which now for the first time comes forth, with a tremendous and baleful aspect, to trample down and destroy the dearest right of personal liberty? Who will show me any Constitutional injunction which makes it the duty of the American people to surrender everything valuable in life, and even life, itself, whenever the purposes of an ambitious and mischievous government may require it? … A free government with an uncontrolled power of military conscription is the most ridiculous and abominable contradiction and nonsense that ever entered into the heads of men.” -Daniel Webster

“A standing army, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the military to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.” -Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution

Nor do you get a pass on treason just because you just follow orders, Nineteen Kilo. Now why don't you go back to fighting the government's illegitimate wars against foreign countries and murder the people resisting a foreign occupying force that has zero business being there.


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Comment posted April 24, 2009 @ 8:56 am

Actually, it kinda did, as written by those founding fathers he likes to quote so much. Thankfully, we finally wised up and crossed that part out.


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Paul
Comment posted April 25, 2009 @ 1:37 pm

To Anton,
Right on, great comment.
These self imposed martyrs remind me of another group of so called 'martyrs' of late.
Anton is right, you attempt these violent insurrections you guys keep going on and on about, and you will be shot. No, not likely by those 'liberals' you're so fond of blaming for every ill that society suffers from, but from the military, and from the police.
I know you guys are fond of posting on your message boards (yes, they are commonly copied and pasted all over the internet) that the military would NEVER fire on you bunch of patriots.
On the contrary, start firing around a bunch of unarmed American civilians, and see who goes down.
This post isn't like those cryptic right wingers with those ten million. 'are you ready? It's coming sooner than you think', statements, I am just stating your most plausible scenario.
Shoot at unarmed citizens, prepare to find yourself prostrate on the ground, quite possibly bleeding profusely.


Judith
Comment posted April 25, 2009 @ 8:33 pm

You don't think the police/armed forces would fire on citizens. You obviously have never heard of Kent State.


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Robert R.
Comment posted May 5, 2009 @ 5:40 am

The idea of trying to frighten these complete boobs with the idea that the Govt. will fire on them if they show up in DC with their guns and try to march is as insidious as their existence in the first place.

To all of you, no matter what your political affectations are, who get thrills at the idea of a civil war like scenario playing out in the United States, I say SHAME ON YOU.

Whether you are Liberals or Conservatives you are an EMBARRASSMENT.


Otto Beasley
Comment posted May 5, 2009 @ 11:14 am

This is a good idea.


barbiedoll1050
Comment posted May 6, 2009 @ 6:53 am

I think this is a great undertaking and as many militia members that can make it, should be there. While I am not at present a member of the militia (here in Indiana) I am seriously considering joining. Too much is happening in our country (and not for the best) to our citizens and to our rights as Americans in this country we call “home.” Was it Edmund Burke who said that all that was needed for evil to prosper is for good men (and women) to do nothing! Now our “freedom of speech” is not only being threatened but criminalized by the very people we put in office – members of Congress! I say let's vote all of them out of office and start over again! I do like our current president, but am not supportive of his policies. He is supposed to represent ALL Americans and there are times when I wonder where he is coming from? Did he forget his campaign pledge to consider the views of both parties and to work with both sides, thereby making the term “bi-partisan” a reality??? One can only hope & pray.

I would love to come to the march on July 4th but since I'm unable to at the present time, I intend to support it in every way possible.

Listen up and be counted America! THIS IS OUR COUNTRY and the politicians cannot shut us up!


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Comment posted May 20, 2009 @ 2:58 am

I don't recall Liberals becoming as crazy, utterly lunatic when we “lost” the 2000 election or actually lost in 2004, as the Rightwing seems to have become today.

Wow. These people have frackin' lost their minds. Maybe they always had been this way and we just didn't know it because “their” people were in power and so they weren't so angry.

Dang.——Christian in NYC—-
Christian, what a bafoon of a statement!!! I remember all so well how the Democrat party AND their liberal masters acted after the 2000 election– we had to hear about it every day for the following 8 years. So do us all a favor and stop pretending the liberals “are above the fray” of partisan politics when if fact they (democrats and liberals) are the most corrupt, hateful and dishonest part of our electorate AND citizenry


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Comment posted June 2, 2009 @ 12:16 am

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Congradulations to the many new and highly motivated militia formations coming on line. For as long as the country has been in place there has always been a free militia as part of the checks and ballances of the american system. Before there was a republic, confederation or the Declaration of Independence there was the militia.
What VOTE was cast that started the american revolution? The war started on 19 April 1775 (14 months before the Declaration of Independence) Independent MILITIA on Lexington Green cast a lead vote into a redcoat ballot box and they did like wise and the voting day began. The next batch of votes were cast around the bridge at Concord and then votes were cast all the way back to Boston. Both sides barked back and forth the whole day and then the siege of Boston began. They came out to confiscate the arms(to include politcally incorrect field pieces) then, just as they will come out and try to do the same thing again. It is not if, it is only when. There is not a goof in the present regime who is any different from the socialist goof from the last regime. America is voting with its wallet and firearms sales speak for themselves. We shall see how things go. Victory. Mark Gregory,, Koernke GDW!


URDumb
Comment posted June 13, 2009 @ 1:48 pm

You don't need a permit to peaceably assemble, retard. It is a right.


URDumb
Comment posted June 13, 2009 @ 8:53 pm

Just one problem with your brilliant interpretation of the 2nd amendment. None of what you are describing as the real militia existed when the bill of rights was written. Luckily for the rest of us we don’t need to rely on your false definitions as the Federalist papers define the militia as “Every able bodied man between 18 and 45″


URDumb
Comment posted June 13, 2009 @ 8:48 pm

You don't need a permit to peaceably assemble, retard. It is a right.


Dan
Comment posted June 19, 2009 @ 4:02 pm

Only people like you worry about getting a permission slip to practice your RIGHTS! That may very well be why we are losing our rights, they are being atrophied due to misunderstandings of them, disuse and even avoidance of mentioning them. You might be a terrorist if…
you voted for a third party candidate
you own a gun
you don't think that President Obama is doing a bang up job
you publicly say that you have Constitutional Rights

Those are the signs of a great new century for the United States of America? NOT!


Dan
Comment posted June 27, 2009 @ 8:52 pm

Now tell me again why it is I need a permit to use a right? Clueless! I don’t think the people assembled on the green the British shot at first had a permit either.


Dan
Comment posted June 27, 2009 @ 8:45 pm

Or maybe, like the government, you just weren't listening all those years.


GOLDENKNIGHT
Comment posted June 28, 2009 @ 6:52 pm

DO IT U GOT MY SUPPORT THEN U THINK


vermeth
Comment posted July 30, 2009 @ 9:02 pm

I live in DC and nothing happened on this date, but i'd certainly welcome it. i think militia's must stop being afraid of being hunted down by the goons, and take a stand. Americans aren't used to armed resistance and initially the flame would be nearly put out, but this would be needed to spread the message that actions have replaced words, and those outside the militia will be the next line of fighters. this shouldn't be a fight to take back America, but a fight to seperate from it and start anew because there will always be those who will side with a 'depraved progressive America', or a 'backwards theocracy', and they cannot be swayed. So it is only fair to declare new land for those that will not stand by and watch America become the shit hole it is right now. This decline has been in the making ever since America became a super power and first got tyranical over the home-grown 'commie' threat and today where the yoke of 'civil rights' prevail. The Democratic and Republican parties have destroyed America and should be exposed for the lying rats they are and be expelled from independant territories should fighters work to plot out the borders of their territories. We are at the same point now that the CCCP was in during the 90s, and we can clearly see where we are headed should the bullshit order of the day continue. some left peacfully, others left through force. the goons will decide, how the shit will hit the fan.


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Comment posted September 14, 2009 @ 2:09 am

Some have commented that “America love it or leave it” well perhaps some of us are going to leave it until it gets it's sh#t together. Do you know how we must look to other countries right now. Armed marches, racist red necks calling Obama a communist. Listen crazies what in your life has changed since Obama took office. Do you still have your guns, do you still have your religion, do you still have the right to talk like lunatics, YES.

How about we start a new party and call it the not insane party and fix the problems with this country instead of trying to find if Obama wa really born in America.


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Comment posted August 9, 2010 @ 11:16 pm

Simple, Pussys have a paint ball contest, And the militia can meet.


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Comment posted August 9, 2010 @ 11:17 pm

Simple, Pussys have a paint ball contest, And the militia can meet.


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Comment posted November 22, 2010 @ 9:08 pm

WOW! You said and I quote!
“Instead of these right-wing extremists (dangerous no matter country you find them) accepting our democratically elected, mulatto President….they’re going to have an armed march on DC?!

Keep on throwing rocks at the moon fellaz!

Jesus H. Christ, what a bunch of D-Bags! I almost feel sorry for these poor, uneducated, 21st century klansman. ”

What a poor excuse for an American you are and represent! The bills passed and executive orders executed by this “mulatto” President (seeings how you want to make this a racism thing) are mine and the Tea Parties concern, not his “Race”. Way to stereotype the profile of the person that made emptyheaded facists such as yourself FREE.

UNEDUCATED, 21st Century Klansman???? I’ll have you know I obtained a Bachelors Degree at the University of FL and Im working on my Masters, have a beautiful wife and three adorable children, have all my teeth, don’t drink but on special occasions, PAY MY TAXES, VOTE, WORK A VERY GOOD JOB and LOVE MY COUNTRY THE WAY IT IS, THE WAY IT WAS MADE!!!!! YOU FACIST PUKE!!! Get your OBAMA CARE, get your bullshit stimulus, When your standing in front of a firing squad at the mercy of a tyrranical government, after being raped and starved in a FEMA camp, I HOPE I AM THERE TO LAUGH AT YOUR DEATH AND ALL YOUR “CHANGE”!

WAKE UP AMERICA, YOU ARE IN THE MIDST OF THE FALL OF YOUR BELOVED COUNTRY AND WILL BE FORCED TO SUBMIT TO A ONE WORLD DICTATOR. HE WANTS TO ABOLISH YOUR DOLLAR, DECREASE YOUR POPULATION, DISSOLVE YOUR CONSTITUTION AND ALL OF YOUR RIGHTS PRESENTED TO YOU BY YOUR FOUNDING FATHERS UNDER THE BILL OF RIGHTS, TO ENSLAVE YOU, PUNISH YOU AND MAKE A MOCKERY OF YOUR GOD AND YOUR WAY OF LIFE……I WILL DIE FIRST…..AS FOR YOU TREE HUGGIN, FACIST PUSSIES, I WILL SEE YOU ON THE BATTLEFIELD AND MY CROSSHAIRS AND TRIGGER FINGER WILL NOT HAVE MERCY ON YOU!!!!!

GOOD DAY!


nazikilla
Comment posted November 22, 2010 @ 9:14 pm

hahahaha yeah we have that shit for now, but new legislation endangers all of the above…….and what problems do you propose to fix with this “party” you describe, you tree huggin, Obama lovin, fascist cocksucker?? While you sit on your couch and play Xbox war video games>>>YOU MAKE ME LAUGH……Ill see you on the battlefield you little motherfucker!


nazikilla
Comment posted November 22, 2010 @ 9:18 pm

Thank you brother!!! UNITED WE STAND OR DIVIDED WE WILL FALL! We need more like you, more that know they are empowered by documents that were forged over 200 years ago, documents that made us and still make us FREE PEOPLE! Take up your cause, join a militia, call your congressman, let them know you will not be forced into enslavement by a government ran by non-representing representatives! FIRE CONGERSS AND FREE AMERICA!


nazikilla
Comment posted November 22, 2010 @ 9:23 pm

One can not just hope and pray, but take up arms and show the federal government to FEAR its people. That is what makes us free, I am so glad for your post it shows that wemon are just as fed up as men! God bless you and please GET INVOLVED!


nazikilla
Comment posted November 22, 2010 @ 9:30 pm

OBAMA IS YOUR ENEMY YOU STUPID LASS! He is the puppet, George Soros is the puppetmaster, and yes we are allowed to do this your fascist bitch WE HAVE THE RIGHT AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE BECAUSE STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS LIKE YOU (YOU OBAMA LUVIN CUNT) WANT TO TAKE THEM AWAY FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE……SEE YOU ON THE BATTLEFIELD!


Anonymous
Comment posted November 22, 2010 @ 10:53 pm

Hi Nazi,
 
When it is all washed away you and I will go as well. None of what you or I say matters anymore. I have now realized that as you say I am a little xbox playing, obama lovin, little MOFO has no effect on me because I just don’t care anymore that a person like yourself exists because if a natural disaster gets us or the bomb you die too. In fact we are already dead. You, me and everyone you know or have ever known are going to die. We are born to die everything in the middle is just filler. You may be right that we will all just kill each other and that may be the best thing. Then all will be at pease.


Chrisrivere
Comment posted November 23, 2010 @ 1:31 pm

you must be black.Typical! why don’t you go try to defend a lump of coal about to be burned.Who doesn’t know that you’re the most racist people on the planet.You would be defending Obasshole if he just robbed your dumb ass. See if you still feel fhat way when he herds your ass into a FEMA camp. Get your head out of your ass!!!


Chrisrivere
Comment posted November 23, 2010 @ 1:45 pm

fuck you Paul. You must work for those beureaucratic bastards who facilitate the multitude of crimes against the American people.At this point armed resistance must be organized. They’re assaulting children sexually at the airports, allowing theives to get rich with market manipulation,and building concentration camps for all the complacent idiots who don’t believe the govt. is evil


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