Obama Open to Congressional Investigation of Torture Policies
Tuesday, April 21, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Although he’s not calling it “torture” anymore, according to Greg Sargent at The Plum Line, President Obama on Tuesday said that he is not opposed to a bipartisan investigation on Capitol Hill of Bush administration officials who devised those torturous tactics.
The president has publicly opposed prosecuting the CIA officers who carried them out, but now he’s also saying that it’s up to Attorney General Eric Holder to decide whether to prosecute the lawyers that wrote the many legal memos authorizing and justifying them.
A broad range of advocates have been calling on Holder to appoint a special prosecutor to begin criminal investigations.
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Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 12:19 pm
First, if we are to be a credible “nation of laws” both in this country and the world, we have by signing the Geneva Conventions, and under our own law obligated ourselves to investigate and prosecute those that broke the law.
Second, who we prosecute and for what is under the jurisdiction of the Attorney General. The Presidents proclamations of who he is opposed to prosecuting is only valid if he pardons them. He has no other avenue of power except of course the bully pulpit.
Third, the Attorney General's job here is to decide if there is sufficient evidence that a crime has been committed, and then if he feels that extraneous forces would prejudice the investigation appoint a Special Prosecutor.
Fourth, while there is talk of Congress investigating, that should have no bearing on the Attorney General and how he performs his duty.
Fifth, It sounds like the lawyers that wrote the “legal” memos have a “legal liability” for the advice they gave. I am not sure lacking collusion with the memo recipient or extreme negligence how a lawyer is held legally liable for his advice.
Sixth, I hope that the idea that the defense of “my lawyer said it was OK” is not seriously valid. My lawyer said I have a valid claim to Fort Knox, but I hope he is wrong as I can't afford the property taxes.
Seventh, for the good of the nation, its reputation in the international world, its credibility with Americans, and to show we are truly a nation of law we need to follow the law. We need to investigate who did what; who authorized and promoted the illegal activity of torture. We need then to prosecute those that broke the law. This will go a long way to reclaiming our moral position in the world.
Eighth, In order to ensure that we as a nation will never fall into this “anything goes for National Security” trap again, this full investigation and prosecution is absolutely mandatory. With any thing less someday in the future after another crises some politician will stand and say, “this is national security, this is the exception that makes the rule, this act and those that perpetrated it must be caught by any means possible and brought to justice (even if brought by unjust means). Blah Blah Blah.
Ninth, Actually the question is simple. The Attorney General is charged with enforcing the law. The laws state torture is a crime. We know there are those that have tortured. The A.G.s job is to cause an investigation and punish those that are guilty.
Or he can ignore the law. Ignore the guilty acts. Ignore his sworn duty. And, become morally at least complicit with the past acts, and an enabler of the someday future acts. He can become a politician.
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 7:19 pm
First, if we are to be a credible “nation of laws” both in this country and the world, we have by signing the Geneva Conventions, and under our own law obligated ourselves to investigate and prosecute those that broke the law.
Second, who we prosecute and for what is under the jurisdiction of the Attorney General. The Presidents proclamations of who he is opposed to prosecuting is only valid if he pardons them. He has no other avenue of power except of course the bully pulpit.
Third, the Attorney General's job here is to decide if there is sufficient evidence that a crime has been committed, and then if he feels that extraneous forces would prejudice the investigation appoint a Special Prosecutor.
Fourth, while there is talk of Congress investigating, that should have no bearing on the Attorney General and how he performs his duty.
Fifth, It sounds like the lawyers that wrote the “legal” memos have a “legal liability” for the advice they gave. I am not sure lacking collusion with the memo recipient or extreme negligence how a lawyer is held legally liable for his advice.
Sixth, I hope that the idea that the defense of “my lawyer said it was OK” is not seriously valid. My lawyer said I have a valid claim to Fort Knox, but I hope he is wrong as I can't afford the property taxes.
Seventh, for the good of the nation, its reputation in the international world, its credibility with Americans, and to show we are truly a nation of law we need to follow the law. We need to investigate who did what; who authorized and promoted the illegal activity of torture. We need then to prosecute those that broke the law. This will go a long way to reclaiming our moral position in the world.
Eighth, In order to ensure that we as a nation will never fall into this “anything goes for National Security” trap again, this full investigation and prosecution is absolutely mandatory. With any thing less someday in the future after another crises some politician will stand and say, “this is national security, this is the exception that makes the rule, this act and those that perpetrated it must be caught by any means possible and brought to justice (even if brought by unjust means). Blah Blah Blah.
Ninth, Actually the question is simple. The Attorney General is charged with enforcing the law. The laws state torture is a crime. We know there are those that have tortured. The A.G.s job is to cause an investigation and punish those that are guilty.
Or he can ignore the law. Ignore the guilty acts. Ignore his sworn duty. And, become morally at least complicit with the past acts, and an enabler of the someday future acts. He can become a politician.
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Comment posted September 10, 2009 @ 4:27 pm
I would like an congressional investigation done on my case it is very possible i am JFK reincarnated held by Iowa and montana mental health system and treated with medications for my belief of Buddism/judeochristian. I have been beat up my spine has been injured in Iowa and I am getting no compensation.
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