Cheney Calls for Release of ‘Torture Works’ Memos

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Tuesday, April 21, 2009 at 8:58 am

Former Vice President Dick Cheney isn’t satisfied with the release of the latest batch of Bush-era Office of Legal Counsel torture memos by the Obama administration last week. Now, he says, the government should release more memos — this time not just the ones describing the torture, but also the ones that say how successful it was.

“One of the things that I find a little bit disturbing about this recent disclosure is they put out the legal memos, the memos that the CIA got from the Office of Legal Counsel, but they didn’t put out the memos that showed the success of the effort,” Cheney said in an interview with FOX News’ Sean Hannity aired Monday night.

Well, if there are memos showing that torture and the CIA’s other “extreme” interrogation techniques were successful, I’d like to see those, too — all of them. Including the ones that show that detainees like Abu Zubaydah gave up the most important information they had before they were waterboarded — and nothing of much use afterwards. And while we’re at it, let’s see the proof that the techniques were successful — that the information these torture victims offered actually turned out to be reliable.

As I pointed out yesterday, whether policymakers had strong, convincing evidence that these techniques were actually going to deter the next terrorist attack is critical to the legal analyses that justified them. If the CIA didn’t have very good reason to believe that sticking a guy in a box with insects or slamming him repeatedly against the wall or depriving him of food and sleep for days at a time would yield critically important information, then the whole legal justification about how this was all done for a very important government purpose quickly falls apart. (Set aside for a moment whether these sort of techniques could ever really be considered legal standing on their own.)

So Cheney’s right: if there are memos demonstrating the CIA’s success, bring them on — let’s see all the relevant evidence and then see just how legal and justified it all was.

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23 Comments

Izzy
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 7:00 am

Transperancy- Obama promised transperancy, but I thought he was talking about letting the American people have enough time to read the stimulus bill before our representatives signed it. I guess I misunderstood, transperancy to Obama means that he will release TOP SECRET information to our enemies against the advise of the last 4 directors of the CIA.


CameraFanatic2
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 7:48 am

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Over 900,000 in print, in its 15th printing.

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This book is perfect for the individual who has always “felt” conservative, but couldn't quite explain herself. Mark Levin's “Liberty and Tyranny” begins with an excellent overview of where our country is as a constitutional republic and how we got here. He then states clearly his book's theme and rallying cry — Conservatives must know the philosophical foundations for the principles they purport to advance in order to defend liberty from the “soft tyranny” of modern liberalism.

Levin goes on meticulously (many more than 300 endnotes), but plainly explaining the principles of classic conservative philosophy of “prudent” progress, a government that is subservient to the people (rather than the other way around), the fundamental truth that rights are not derived from the government but from a higher power, that the free market system more than any other in history provides the best, most efficient and most just opportunity for individual prosperity as well as for the general welfare, and much much more.

Levin's book provides ample evidence of government encroachment on individual liberty and our country's descent into the soft tyranny warned of by Alexis de Tocqueville in our country's earliest years. Economic regulation, environmental extremism, the usurpation of representative government by the judiciary, unprecedented and uncontrolled illegal influx of people into out country, and the like threaten our economic viability. Finally, Levin's book details how the liberal (and some so-called conservative) political elite rejects the notion of American Exceptionalism and seek to surrender voluntarily the sovereignty our forefathers fought and died to give and to preserve for us.

UPDATE: This book is currently on sale at Amazon. Now is a great opportunity to pick up this book, if you haven’t already.

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Izzy
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 2:00 pm

Transperancy- Obama promised transperancy, but I thought he was talking about letting the American people have enough time to read the stimulus bill before our representatives signed it. I guess I misunderstood, transperancy to Obama means that he will release TOP SECRET information to our enemies against the advise of the last 4 directors of the CIA.


CameraFanatic2
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 2:48 pm

The louder someone complains, the closer you are to the truth. I anticipate a lot of ad hominem complaints from statists here. Do not let them talk you out of reading this book.

In any given generation, there are but a few authors and thinkers whose creations can survive the ravages of time and the shifting sands of societal evolution. It is rarer still when a key book is written, recognized, and celebrated contemporarily. This is one such book.

Mark R. Levin logically lays out what has made the United States of America different from all other nations in the history of humanity. He re-introduces us to the founders and framers, and those people who inspired them long ago. At its most basic elements, our country was founded on the ideals of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness…and that we have these rights conferred on us, not by man or government, but by Natural Law, which originates with the Creator. Mr. Levin puts us back in touch with our founding doctrines, which are the at the very heart of what conservatism is and has always been.

For too long, Conservatives have let themselves be defined by the media. Mr. Levin's book recasts what it is to be a proud Conservative, and gives voice to those who are often silent in the face of ideological slander. If you believe in this great country, if you believe in truth and honesty, if you believe in life and principles, if you believe in freedom and patriotism, if you believe that all people are created equal and it is up to the individual to succeed according to their talents and interests, and if you believe in a smaller efficient government, and lower taxes, then this book is for you.

NY Times Best Seller – Hardcover Nonfiction – #1 for 3 weeks running!
Amazon.com – all categories – #1 for 29 days and counting.
Over 900,000 in print, in its 15th printing.

…and all the while, a deafening silence from the major media outlets – until now, April 20th, when the MSM champions an anti-American book.

http://tinyurl.com/mlevinbook

This book is perfect for the individual who has always “felt” conservative, but couldn't quite explain herself. Mark Levin's “Liberty and Tyranny” begins with an excellent overview of where our country is as a constitutional republic and how we got here. He then states clearly his book's theme and rallying cry — Conservatives must know the philosophical foundations for the principles they purport to advance in order to defend liberty from the “soft tyranny” of modern liberalism.

Levin goes on meticulously (many more than 300 endnotes), but plainly explaining the principles of classic conservative philosophy of “prudent” progress, a government that is subservient to the people (rather than the other way around), the fundamental truth that rights are not derived from the government but from a higher power, that the free market system more than any other in history provides the best, most efficient and most just opportunity for individual prosperity as well as for the general welfare, and much much more.

Levin's book provides ample evidence of government encroachment on individual liberty and our country's descent into the soft tyranny warned of by Alexis de Tocqueville in our country's earliest years. Economic regulation, environmental extremism, the usurpation of representative government by the judiciary, unprecedented and uncontrolled illegal influx of people into out country, and the like threaten our economic viability. Finally, Levin's book details how the liberal (and some so-called conservative) political elite rejects the notion of American Exceptionalism and seek to surrender voluntarily the sovereignty our forefathers fought and died to give and to preserve for us.

UPDATE: This book is currently on sale at Amazon. Now is a great opportunity to pick up this book, if you haven’t already.

http://tinyurl.com/mlevinbook


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