Here at World Spinner we are debating the same thing……

Who gave the congress or anyone else the right to change the Constitution by fiat or simple legislative act? National Security is truly a need in today's world, however so is following the law, and so far as I know changing the Constitution takes an Amendment.

The Constitution seems to have been relegated to some nether land status in America. We know it is the law. We know it is essential to our “Democracy”. But somehow violating it seems to be an intellectual act, one of, if there is a compelling need, one of, “yeh, but that doesn't really effect me.”

Perhaps we need to make another law. One that says If you violate the Constitution either overtly or covertly, if you violate it by mandate, fiat, unpublished executive orders or any other way, you are subject to prosecution. If you ignore it you lose. If you distort it you pay. If you subvert it you are liable for criminal prosecution. If you pass laws that conflict with or reduce its effectiveness you are guilty of a crime.

It seems that if we don't address this and keep on chipping away at the freedoms that are “protected” we will lose them.

If you think this is over the top, how many “legal” exceptions are there to the Search and seizure law? Who created these amendments to the Fourth Amendment? How can the Constitution be amended this way when it takes 2/3s of the states to ratify an amendment to the Constitution?

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Who gave the congress or anyone else the right to change the Constitution by fiat or simple legislative act? National Security is truly a need in today's world, however so is following the law, and so far as I know changing the Constitution takes an Amendment.

The Constitution seems to have been relegated to some nether land status in America. We know it is the law. We know it is essential to our “Democracy”. But somehow violating it seems to be an intellectual act, one of, if there is a compelling need, one of, “yeh, but that doesn't really effect me.”

Perhaps we need to make another law. One that says If you violate the Constitution either overtly or covertly, if you violate it by mandate, fiat, unpublished executive orders or any other way, you are subject to prosecution. If you ignore it you lose. If you distort it you pay. If you subvert it you are liable for criminal prosecution. If you pass laws that conflict with or reduce its effectiveness you are guilty of a crime.

It seems that if we don't address this and keep on chipping away at the freedoms that are “protected” we will lose them.

If you think this is over the top, how many “legal” exceptions are there to the Search and seizure law? Who created these amendments to the Fourth Amendment? How can the Constitution be amended this way when it takes 2/3s of the states to ratify an amendment to the Constitution?

???

Who gave the congress or anyone else the right to change the Constitution by fiat or simple legislative act? National Security is truly a need in today's world, however so is following the law, and so far as I know changing the Constitution takes an Amendment.

The Constitution seems to have been relegated to some nether land status in America. We know it is the law. We know it is essential to our “Democracy”. But somehow violating it seems to be an intellectual act, one of, if there is a compelling need, one of, “yeh, but that doesn't really effect me.”

Perhaps we need to make another law. One that says If you violate the Constitution either overtly or covertly, if you violate it by mandate, fiat, unpublished executive orders or any other way, you are subject to prosecution. If you ignore it you lose. If you distort it you pay. If you subvert it you are liable for criminal prosecution. If you pass laws that conflict with or reduce its effectiveness you are guilty of a crime.

It seems that if we don't address this and keep on chipping away at the freedoms that are “protected” we will lose them.

If you think this is over the top, how many “legal” exceptions are there to the Search and seizure law? Who created these amendments to the Fourth Amendment? How can the Constitution be amended this way when it takes 2/3s of the states to ratify an amendment to the Constitution?

???

Who gave the congress or anyone else the right to change the Constitution by fiat or simple legislative act? National Security is truly a need in today's world, however so is following the law, and so far as I know changing the Constitution takes an Amendment.

The Constitution seems to have been relegated to some nether land status in America. We know it is the law. We know it is essential to our “Democracy”. But somehow violating it seems to be an intellectual act, one of, if there is a compelling need, one of, “yeh, but that doesn't really effect me.”

Perhaps we need to make another law. One that says If you violate the Constitution either overtly or covertly, if you violate it by mandate, fiat, unpublished executive orders or any other way, you are subject to prosecution. If you ignore it you lose. If you distort it you pay. If you subvert it you are liable for criminal prosecution. If you pass laws that conflict with or reduce its effectiveness you are guilty of a crime.

It seems that if we don't address this and keep on chipping away at the freedoms that are “protected” we will lose them.

If you think this is over the top, how many “legal” exceptions are there to the Search and seizure law? Who created these amendments to the Fourth Amendment? How can the Constitution be amended this way when it takes 2/3s of the states to ratify an amendment to the Constitution?

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