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		<title>By: The domestic surveillance report is out &#171; Later On</title>
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		<dc:creator>The domestic surveillance report is out &#171; Later On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ackerman will be doing a series of posts on it. His first: Last year, the Democratic Congress enthusiastically acquiesced to President George W. Bush’s insistence on carving out individualized suspicion and other [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Interstate 73 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sam Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interstate 73 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sam Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 14:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Skipjack (cipher) at Freedom of religion in India</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skipjack (cipher) at Freedom of religion in India</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 13:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Maurice Berkeley, 1st Baron FitzHardinge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; FAPSI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurice Berkeley, 1st Baron FitzHardinge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; FAPSI</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Hawaiianstyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawaiianstyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The debate surrounding FISA in reality is one about how the government can pass laws that limit or take away our Constitutional rights, i.e., in simple words change the Constitution by Congressional act without the approval of the People or the States.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Who gave the congress or anyone else the right to change the Constitution by fiat or simple legislative act?  National Security is truly a need in today&#039;s world, however so is following the law, and so far as I know changing the Constitution takes an Amendment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Constitution seems to have been relegated to some nether land status in America.  We know it is the law.  We know it is essential to our &quot;Democracy&quot;.  But somehow violating it seems to be an intellectual act, one of, if there is a compelling need, one of, &quot;yeh, but that doesn&#039;t really effect me.&quot;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps we need to make another law.  One that says If you violate the Constitution either overtly or covertly, if you violate it by mandate, fiat, unpublished executive orders or any other way, you are subject to prosecution.  If you ignore it you lose.  If you distort it you pay.  If you subvert it you are liable for criminal prosecution.  If you pass laws that conflict with or reduce its effectiveness you are guilty of a crime.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems that if we don&#039;t address this and keep on chipping away at the freedoms that are &quot;protected&quot; we will lose them.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you think this is over the top, how many &quot;legal&quot; exceptions are there to the Search and seizure law?  Who created these amendments to the Fourth Amendment?  How can the Constitution be amended this way when it takes 2/3s of the states to ratify an amendment to the Constitution?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The debate surrounding FISA in reality is one about how the government can pass laws that limit or take away our Constitutional rights, i.e., in simple words change the Constitution by Congressional act without the approval of the People or the States.</p>
<p>Who gave the congress or anyone else the right to change the Constitution by fiat or simple legislative act?  National Security is truly a need in today&#39;s world, however so is following the law, and so far as I know changing the Constitution takes an Amendment.</p>
<p>The Constitution seems to have been relegated to some nether land status in America.  We know it is the law.  We know it is essential to our &#8220;Democracy&#8221;.  But somehow violating it seems to be an intellectual act, one of, if there is a compelling need, one of, &#8220;yeh, but that doesn&#39;t really effect me.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Perhaps we need to make another law.  One that says If you violate the Constitution either overtly or covertly, if you violate it by mandate, fiat, unpublished executive orders or any other way, you are subject to prosecution.  If you ignore it you lose.  If you distort it you pay.  If you subvert it you are liable for criminal prosecution.  If you pass laws that conflict with or reduce its effectiveness you are guilty of a crime.</p>
<p>It seems that if we don&#39;t address this and keep on chipping away at the freedoms that are &#8220;protected&#8221; we will lose them.  </p>
<p>If you think this is over the top, how many &#8220;legal&#8221; exceptions are there to the Search and seizure law?  Who created these amendments to the Fourth Amendment?  How can the Constitution be amended this way when it takes 2/3s of the states to ratify an amendment to the Constitution?</p>
<p>???</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiianstyle</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/39153/nsa-revelations-spark-movement-to-restore-fisa/comment-page-1#comment-34408</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiianstyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The debate surrounding FISA in reality is one about how the government can pass laws that limit or take away our Constitutional rights, i.e., in simple words change the Constitution by Congressional act without the approval of the People or the States.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Who gave the congress or anyone else the right to change the Constitution by fiat or simple legislative act?  National Security is truly a need in today&#039;s world, however so is following the law, and so far as I know changing the Constitution takes an Amendment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Constitution seems to have been relegated to some nether land status in America.  We know it is the law.  We know it is essential to our &quot;Democracy&quot;.  But somehow violating it seems to be an intellectual act, one of, if there is a compelling need, one of, &quot;yeh, but that doesn&#039;t really effect me.&quot;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps we need to make another law.  One that says If you violate the Constitution either overtly or covertly, if you violate it by mandate, fiat, unpublished executive orders or any other way, you are subject to prosecution.  If you ignore it you lose.  If you distort it you pay.  If you subvert it you are liable for criminal prosecution.  If you pass laws that conflict with or reduce its effectiveness you are guilty of a crime.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems that if we don&#039;t address this and keep on chipping away at the freedoms that are &quot;protected&quot; we will lose them.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you think this is over the top, how many &quot;legal&quot; exceptions are there to the Search and seizure law?  Who created these amendments to the Fourth Amendment?  How can the Constitution be amended this way when it takes 2/3s of the states to ratify an amendment to the Constitution?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The debate surrounding FISA in reality is one about how the government can pass laws that limit or take away our Constitutional rights, i.e., in simple words change the Constitution by Congressional act without the approval of the People or the States.</p>
<p>Who gave the congress or anyone else the right to change the Constitution by fiat or simple legislative act?  National Security is truly a need in today&#39;s world, however so is following the law, and so far as I know changing the Constitution takes an Amendment.</p>
<p>The Constitution seems to have been relegated to some nether land status in America.  We know it is the law.  We know it is essential to our &#8220;Democracy&#8221;.  But somehow violating it seems to be an intellectual act, one of, if there is a compelling need, one of, &#8220;yeh, but that doesn&#39;t really effect me.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Perhaps we need to make another law.  One that says If you violate the Constitution either overtly or covertly, if you violate it by mandate, fiat, unpublished executive orders or any other way, you are subject to prosecution.  If you ignore it you lose.  If you distort it you pay.  If you subvert it you are liable for criminal prosecution.  If you pass laws that conflict with or reduce its effectiveness you are guilty of a crime.</p>
<p>It seems that if we don&#39;t address this and keep on chipping away at the freedoms that are &#8220;protected&#8221; we will lose them.  </p>
<p>If you think this is over the top, how many &#8220;legal&#8221; exceptions are there to the Search and seizure law?  Who created these amendments to the Fourth Amendment?  How can the Constitution be amended this way when it takes 2/3s of the states to ratify an amendment to the Constitution?</p>
<p>???</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian style</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/39153/nsa-revelations-spark-movement-to-restore-fisa/comment-page-1#comment-27726</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian style</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The debate surrounding FISA in reality is one about how the government can pass laws that limit or take away our Constitutional rights, i.e., in simple words change the Constitution by Congressional act without the approval of the People or the States.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Who gave the congress or anyone else the right to change the Constitution by fiat or simple legislative act?  National Security is truly a need in today&#039;s world, however so is following the law, and so far as I know changing the Constitution takes an Amendment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Constitution seems to have been relegated to some nether land status in America.  We know it is the law.  We know it is essential to our &quot;Democracy&quot;.  But somehow violating it seems to be an intellectual act, one of, if there is a compelling need, one of, &quot;yeh, but that doesn&#039;t really effect me.&quot;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps we need to make another law.  One that says If you violate the Constitution either overtly or covertly, if you violate it by mandate, fiat, unpublished executive orders or any other way, you are subject to prosecution.  If you ignore it you lose.  If you distort it you pay.  If you subvert it you are liable for criminal prosecution.  If you pass laws that conflict with or reduce its effectiveness you are guilty of a crime.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems that if we don&#039;t address this and keep on chipping away at the freedoms that are &quot;protected&quot; we will lose them.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you think this is over the top, how many &quot;legal&quot; exceptions are there to the Search and seizure law?  Who created these amendments to the Fourth Amendment?  How can the Constitution be amended this way when it takes 2/3s of the states to ratify an amendment to the Constitution?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The debate surrounding FISA in reality is one about how the government can pass laws that limit or take away our Constitutional rights, i.e., in simple words change the Constitution by Congressional act without the approval of the People or the States.</p>
<p>Who gave the congress or anyone else the right to change the Constitution by fiat or simple legislative act?  National Security is truly a need in today&#39;s world, however so is following the law, and so far as I know changing the Constitution takes an Amendment.</p>
<p>The Constitution seems to have been relegated to some nether land status in America.  We know it is the law.  We know it is essential to our &#8220;Democracy&#8221;.  But somehow violating it seems to be an intellectual act, one of, if there is a compelling need, one of, &#8220;yeh, but that doesn&#39;t really effect me.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Perhaps we need to make another law.  One that says If you violate the Constitution either overtly or covertly, if you violate it by mandate, fiat, unpublished executive orders or any other way, you are subject to prosecution.  If you ignore it you lose.  If you distort it you pay.  If you subvert it you are liable for criminal prosecution.  If you pass laws that conflict with or reduce its effectiveness you are guilty of a crime.</p>
<p>It seems that if we don&#39;t address this and keep on chipping away at the freedoms that are &#8220;protected&#8221; we will lose them.  </p>
<p>If you think this is over the top, how many &#8220;legal&#8221; exceptions are there to the Search and seizure law?  Who created these amendments to the Fourth Amendment?  How can the Constitution be amended this way when it takes 2/3s of the states to ratify an amendment to the Constitution?</p>
<p>???</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian style</title>
		<link>http://washingtonindependent.com/39153/nsa-revelations-spark-movement-to-restore-fisa/comment-page-1#comment-27720</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian style</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The debate surrounding FISA in reality is one about how the government can pass laws that limit or take away our Constitutional rights, i.e., in simple words change the Constitution by Congressional act without the approval of the People or the States.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Who gave the congress or anyone else the right to change the Constitution by fiat or simple legislative act?  National Security is truly a need in today&#039;s world, however so is following the law, and so far as I know changing the Constitution takes an Amendment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Constitution seems to have been relegated to some nether land status in America.  We know it is the law.  We know it is essential to our &quot;Democracy&quot;.  But somehow violating it seems to be an intellectual act, one of, if there is a compelling need, one of, &quot;yeh, but that doesn&#039;t really effect me.&quot;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps we need to make another law.  One that says If you violate the Constitution either overtly or covertly, if you violate it by mandate, fiat, unpublished executive orders or any other way, you are subject to prosecution.  If you ignore it you lose.  If you distort it you pay.  If you subvert it you are liable for criminal prosecution.  If you pass laws that conflict with or reduce its effectiveness you are guilty of a crime.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems that if we don&#039;t address this and keep on chipping away at the freedoms that are &quot;protected&quot; we will lose them.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you think this is over the top, how many &quot;legal&quot; exceptions are there to the Search and seizure law?  Who created these amendments to the Fourth Amendment?  How can the Constitution be amended this way when it takes 2/3s of the states to ratify an amendment to the Constitution?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The debate surrounding FISA in reality is one about how the government can pass laws that limit or take away our Constitutional rights, i.e., in simple words change the Constitution by Congressional act without the approval of the People or the States.</p>
<p>Who gave the congress or anyone else the right to change the Constitution by fiat or simple legislative act?  National Security is truly a need in today&#39;s world, however so is following the law, and so far as I know changing the Constitution takes an Amendment.</p>
<p>The Constitution seems to have been relegated to some nether land status in America.  We know it is the law.  We know it is essential to our &#8220;Democracy&#8221;.  But somehow violating it seems to be an intellectual act, one of, if there is a compelling need, one of, &#8220;yeh, but that doesn&#39;t really effect me.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Perhaps we need to make another law.  One that says If you violate the Constitution either overtly or covertly, if you violate it by mandate, fiat, unpublished executive orders or any other way, you are subject to prosecution.  If you ignore it you lose.  If you distort it you pay.  If you subvert it you are liable for criminal prosecution.  If you pass laws that conflict with or reduce its effectiveness you are guilty of a crime.</p>
<p>It seems that if we don&#39;t address this and keep on chipping away at the freedoms that are &#8220;protected&#8221; we will lose them.  </p>
<p>If you think this is over the top, how many &#8220;legal&#8221; exceptions are there to the Search and seizure law?  Who created these amendments to the Fourth Amendment?  How can the Constitution be amended this way when it takes 2/3s of the states to ratify an amendment to the Constitution?</p>
<p>???</p>
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		<title>By: Analiese&#8217;s Reading 4/21 &#124; Quiche Moraine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Analiese&#8217;s Reading 4/21 &#124; Quiche Moraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good activism, but it&#039;s going to be hard to convert that activism into a passed bill... thanks to each and every Senator in attendance on April 2, 2009 (that includes Dianne Feinstein and Russ Feingold).  On April 2, the Senate passed the Hatch Amendment (Senate Amendment 962) by unanimous consent, mandating 60 votes to even consider any bill to reform the FISA Amendments Act or Patriot Act.  The amendment went into effect with the passage of the Senate budget bill.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://irregulartimes.com/?p=11793&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://irregulartimes.com/?p=11793&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good activism, but it&#39;s going to be hard to convert that activism into a passed bill&#8230; thanks to each and every Senator in attendance on April 2, 2009 (that includes Dianne Feinstein and Russ Feingold).  On April 2, the Senate passed the Hatch Amendment (Senate Amendment 962) by unanimous consent, mandating 60 votes to even consider any bill to reform the FISA Amendments Act or Patriot Act.  The amendment went into effect with the passage of the Senate budget bill.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://irregulartimes.com/?p=11793" rel="nofollow">http://irregulartimes.com/?p=11793</a></p>
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