Comments on: Obama vs. Netanyahu? http://washingtonindependent.com/37923/obama-vs-netanyahu National News in Context Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:28:34 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Spencer Ackerman http://washingtonindependent.com/37923/obama-vs-netanyahu/comment-page-1#comment-36439 Spencer Ackerman Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:49:47 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=37923#comment-36439 Good point. Good point.

]]> By: Spencer Ackerman http://washingtonindependent.com/37923/obama-vs-netanyahu/comment-page-1#comment-25900 Spencer Ackerman Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:49:47 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=37923#comment-25900 Good point. Good point.

]]> By: Mark C. Eades http://washingtonindependent.com/37923/obama-vs-netanyahu/comment-page-1#comment-25474 Mark C. Eades Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:31:24 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=37923#comment-25474 I suspect that if Bibi Netanyahu attempts to bully the Obama administration he may they may find Congress far less willing to go along than in the past. It seems to me that there is a trend in Washington and among the U.S. public these days toward a realization, at last, that America's interests and Israel's are not necessarily identical. During Israel's latest killing spree in Gaza there seemed to be far less noise about Israel's "right to defend itself" coming out of Congress than we have all grown accustomed to hearing. In the Israeli press many have observed that America's traditional obeisance to Israel appears as though it may be on the wane, particularly as America moves to the left and Israel moves to the right. In the U.S. press Netanyahu's coverage since his victory in the recent Israeli election has ranged from lukewarm to negative, leaning more negative since his foreign minister appointment of far-right settler leader Avigdor Lieberman, whose extreme views and growing influence in Israel worry many moderate Israelis. Netanyahu is well-known as an arrogant thug who treats U.S. presidents as though they were his personal errand boys and for using his many friends in Congress against the White House to manipulate U.S. policy in the Middle East. Should he attempt to do the same with the current administration, he will find our new president a more-than-worthy opponent. Others have underestimated Obama in the past. I suspect that if Bibi Netanyahu attempts to bully the Obama administration he may they may find Congress far less willing to go along than in the past. It seems to me that there is a trend in Washington and among the U.S. public these days toward a realization, at last, that America's interests and Israel's are not necessarily identical. During Israel's latest killing spree in Gaza there seemed to be far less noise about Israel's “right to defend itself” coming out of Congress than we have all grown accustomed to hearing. In the Israeli press many have observed that America's traditional obeisance to Israel appears as though it may be on the wane, particularly as America moves to the left and Israel moves to the right. In the U.S. press Netanyahu's coverage since his victory in the recent Israeli election has ranged from lukewarm to negative, leaning more negative since his foreign minister appointment of far-right settler leader Avigdor Lieberman, whose extreme views and growing influence in Israel worry many moderate Israelis. Netanyahu is well-known as an arrogant thug who treats U.S. presidents as though they were his personal errand boys and for using his many friends in Congress against the White House to manipulate U.S. policy in the Middle East. Should he attempt to do the same with the current administration, he will find our new president a more-than-worthy opponent. Others have underestimated Obama in the past.

]]> By: Thomas http://washingtonindependent.com/37923/obama-vs-netanyahu/comment-page-1#comment-25331 Thomas Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:44:14 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=37923#comment-25331 “A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification.” ~George Washington, ~page 269 of The 5000 Year Leap.<br><br> <br>“The nation which indulges toward another habitual hatred or habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interests." ~ George Washington<br><br><br>"Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none." ~ Thomas Jefferson “A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification.” ~George Washington, ~page 269 of The 5000 Year Leap.

“The nation which indulges toward another habitual hatred or habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interests.” ~ George Washington

“Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

]]> By: Posts about Andrew Sullivan as of April 8, 2009 » The Daily Parr http://washingtonindependent.com/37923/obama-vs-netanyahu/comment-page-1#comment-25319 Posts about Andrew Sullivan as of April 8, 2009 » The Daily Parr Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:36:59 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=37923#comment-25319 [...] Report on Torture. He has a new piece, “The Red Cross Torture Report: What It Means,” Obama vs. Netanyahu? - washingtonindependent.com 04/08/2009 Via Andrew Sullivan , Haaretz’s Aluf Benn reports on some [...] [...] Report on Torture. He has a new piece, “The Red Cross Torture Report: What It Means,” Obama vs. Netanyahu? – washingtonindependent.com 04/08/2009 Via Andrew Sullivan , Haaretz’s Aluf Benn reports on some [...]

]]> By: bob http://washingtonindependent.com/37923/obama-vs-netanyahu/comment-page-1#comment-25286 bob Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:26:11 +0000 http://washingtonindependent.com/?p=37923#comment-25286 You're positing a vision that is too manichaean. Israel does indeed need the US, but they're also smart enough to know that they can play on differences in the President's and Congressional visions of the situation in order to gain the needed 'fluidity' in the US position to weather political visions they don't particularly care for. You're positing a vision that is too manichaean. Israel does indeed need the US, but they're also smart enough to know that they can play on differences in the President's and Congressional visions of the situation in order to gain the needed 'fluidity' in the US position to weather political visions they don't particularly care for.

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