Cliff Kincaid Still Obsessing Over Obama Birth Certificate

We do NOT know that Davis was his mentor for ten years of his young life. That is just one of Kincaid's many falsehoods regarding the Obama-Davis relationship. That claim was specdifically rejected by the Obama campaign. He wasn't even in Hawaii for ten years between Indonesia and college, and he didn't even visit Davis for three years as an older teenager. Davis was just a family friend whom he occasionally visited with his grandfather, and who provided Obama advice about ethnic issues.

I'm still waiting for one of these birther nutcases to explain: 1. why the state of Hawaii is lying about the birth certificate being real; and 2. why Obama is hiding his ability to time travel, which he obviously has or else how could he have slipped a birth announcement into that Honolulu newspaper on the day he claims to have been born there.

First all the State of Hawaii has said is that they are holding the original vault copy of Obama's birth certificate, which Obama refuses to release. And please do not go into the BS of they don't release those anymore blah blah. BS we all know Obama could pay $10.00 and produce a certified copy of his birth certificate. Further, given the importance of this document a certified photocopy by a court reporting service could produce a photo of it. The sealing of Obama's school records, the government refusing to step forward and provide the information that was or was not reviewed in the vetting process speaks volumes.

So Jeanne, all the State of Hawaii has said is they have the vault copy but under Hawaiian law without a release from Obama will not be produced. Andy Martin has filed suit in Hawaii and is seeking an order of the court to produce it. That law suit should prevail at some point. As to his school records one can only speculate that it shows Obama registered as a Muslim, or as an Indonesian. Either case would raise the questions about why would Obama lie and the impact that would have on his credibility and to practice law.

The fact of the newspaper announcement is circumstantial evidence that could be verified once the vault copy of the birth certificate is produced. The vault copy will list verifiable facts such as the name of the hospital, doctors that made the delivery and any witnesses. All of that information would only be shown on the vault copy and not the short form abstract produced by Obama.

It will be interesting to see if Obama runs in 2012. As soon as his name hits the primary ballot law suits will be filed in almost every State. Keep in mind this issue was first raised by Hillary and the Democrats in February 2008. So this is not a Republican thing, it is a Constitutional thing.

Why does he keep it secret? Is the main Question..not wether they produce one or not or time travel. He Is your President the leader of the free world! If you demand proof he should gladly provide you who voted for him with it! LET THE AMERICANS KNOW THE FACTS!

The President is under no obligation to satisfy idle curiosity, because the supplied certificate is legally sufficient. The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: “your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records.” The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.

The document is a “certification of birth,” also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.

- http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in…

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I think Hillary has a copy of Obama's real birth certificate. Think about it. She blackmailed him into giving her the job she now has.

I heard that Obama's original birth certificate was in a safe in WTC 7. That is why the Bush-Kenyan cabal blew it up.

Old Russian saying…You can tell same lie 1000 times but not change truth!

Difference between USSR Communist media and USA “mainstream media”

In Russia government make media say what they want – even if lie.
In USA “mainstream media” try make government what they want – even if lie..
…..eventually they become same thing?!

I Igor produce Obama Birth Certificate at http://www.igormarxo.org

Hey Barry Soetoro, just produce your original vault copy and your records from the universities you attended!

The longer these are under wraps, the longer we suspect you of collusion.

Fact Check is biased and is part of Obama's team. Everyone knows that Obama even worked with the same people behind this phony organization. And the Hawaii certification of live birth is a form that the State of Hawaii gives to residents to register a birth OUTSIDE of the State!

Actually it's already clear that he is INELIGIBLE.

His mother is American. (But too young to confer American citizenship in the State of Hawaii.)

His father is Kenyan, or a British subject.

Case closed. NATURAL BORN means BOTH parents are AMERICAN CITIZENS at time of birth.

According to the Constitution, Obama is INELIGIBLE for the Presidency.

Sorry Max, but anyone born in the United States is a natural born citizen, regardless of parentage, according to the 14th Amendment.

Actually Kaleokuola, most states only give the same computer-generated form that Hawaii does, Missouri for instance. I say most, because I haven't personally checked EVERY state so I can't say all sstates do it, but seeing that is the standard form the State Department accepts, I would imagine all states will move towards issuing that as a standard.

I think that when Obama went to Hawaii for his ailing grandma he also had a covert trip to the birth records to try to tamper or suppress any evidence about the birth certificate. It's amazing that no document has been shown and scientifically examined to this date. The longer this cover up lasts the bigger the embarassment, the bigger the scandal, the deeper the constitutional crisis

How is it a “cover-up” when he is under no obligation to release the vault copy? Idle curiosity does not create an obligation. Nosy neighbors do not create an obligation. The law creates obligations. His supplied certificate satisfies the law. THAT is his obligation!

Kaleokualoha, I love it! Doesn't have to because it satisfies the law?

So, we won't be hearing anything from you if ever a politician, or a CIA appointee, or a Congressional panel, or a financial institution, or a military operation, etc., hides a document. Regardless whether they are Republican, Democrat, or just plain scoundrels.

Your right to know is out the window, just as long as meet the legal minimum.

Aiiii. If everyone feels that way — and I'm feeling that many folks do :-( — we are in for a long, dark winter of corruption.

Sigh.

“Your right to know is out the window, just as long as meet the legal minimum.”

You have NO right to know other citizen's private information. You only have a right to know public information.

Kaleo, Sorry… you better re-read the 14th amendment. It says anyone born in the USA is a citizen. It doesn't say a “natural born cityizen.”
Our constitution does however make a distinction between the two. A citizen can be a member of congress, but only a “natural born citizen” can be president. Hope that clears things up… Martin

Kaleo, Sorry… you better re-read the 14th amendment. It says anyone born in the USA is a citizen. It doesn't say a “natural born cityizen.”
Our constitution does however make a distinction between the two. A citizen can be a member of congress, but only a “natural born citizen” can be president. Hope that clears things up… Martin

Why did Obama sign an executive order to seal any and all records about himself on his first day in office?
Why did his Kenyan grandmother say he was born in Mombasa?
Why are there multiple lawsuits going to court in so many states?
Why has Obama paid millions to attorneys when he can just produce the ling form birth certificate and make this all go away?
Rumor has it that he traveled to Pakistan (among other places) with a foreign passport (and that he has multiple passports)
He never had his name legally changed to Barack Obama.
He was listed as Muslim when he attended the Madrassa in Kenya.
His college records most probably indicate that he received aid to attend as a foreign student.

The DNC, Pelosi, Dean, Reid and Hillary Clinton are implicit in this.

So again- make it simple, Barry.
Produce the long form birth cert.
This is NOT going away and the Court Case in California on September 8th will be televised.
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His father was a Kenyan- so he is NOT natural born.
All Kenyan records have been sealed as well- and they have a monument as to his birth in that country.
Several Congressmen are now joining the call for him to produce the birth certificate.
Constitutional Crisis?Great! Then all of the legislation he has passed will be null and void and we can have a new election.
Fine with me!