Conservative Anti-Illegal Immigration Group Makes Strong Case for Legalization

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Thursday, March 19, 2009 at 8:33 pm

The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), a research organization that favors restricting immigration, released a report Wednesday analyzing a set of immigration raids at six Swift meatpacking plants conducted in December 2006 in Colorado, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Texas and Utah. The raids led to the arrest of about 1,300 workers on immigration charges.

Although CIS advocates the crackdown on illegal aliens through raids such as these, the report actually makes a persuasive case for the legalization of many currently undocumented immigrants –- what many anti-illegal immigration groups and their supporters call “amnesty.”

Among the findings of the report are that meatpacking workers work in difficult and dangerous conditions; workers have seen a 45 percent decline in their wages and standard of living since 1980; the meatpacking plants returned to full capacity within five months of the raid; and at the four facilities about which researchers were able to obtain information, wages and bonuses rose on average eight percent after the raid.

While CIS claims this supports the efficacy of workplace raids, Walter Ewing, senior researcher at the Immigration Policy Center, notes that the same data could just as easily be used to support a program for legalization of undocumented workers. It would also suggest the need for raising wages at the meatpacking plants – something that United Food and Commercial Workers was already trying to do before the plants were raided.

The CIS report has infuriated immigration advocacy organizations, who argue, as Ewing does in his post on Immigration Impact, that widespread workplace raids “would cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars, while wreaking havoc on the economy and tearing apart countless families and communities in the process.” Ewing cites a study from the Center for American Progress that estimates it would cost more than $200 billion over five years to apprehend, detain, and remove the approximately 10 million undocumented immigrants in the country. “This estimate does not include the economic costs which would be incurred by employers whose workforces are suddenly depleted and businesses whose customers suddenly disappear,” Ewing adds, “nor does it include the extraordinary human costs entailed in breaking up families that include more than three million native-born, U.S.-citizen children who have at least one undocumented parent.”

Still, the CIS report does suggest what many people suspect:  companies’ reliance on illegal immigrants to fill their workforces drives down wages and working conditions, since undocumented workers are the least likely to protest.

All in all, the most efficient solution, then, would seem to be a plan to provide many of the currently undocumented immigrants living and working in the country a path to legalization.

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31 Comments

Pete Murphy
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 4:28 am

Rampant population growth threatens our economy and quality of life. Immigration, both legal and illegal, are fueling this growth.

I'm not talking just about the obvious problems that we see in the news – growing dependence on foreign oil, carbon emissions, soaring commodity prices, environmental degradation, etc. I'm talking about the effect upon rising unemployment and poverty in America.

I should introduce myself. I am the author of a book titled “Five Short Blasts: A New Economic Theory Exposes The Fatal Flaw in Globalization and Its Consequences for America.” To make a long story short, my theory is that, as population density rises beyond some optimum level, per capita consumption of products begins to decline out of the need to conserve space. People who live in crowded conditions simply don’t have enough space to use and store many products. This declining per capita consumption, in the face of rising productivity (per capita output, which always rises), inevitably yields rising unemployment and poverty.

This theory has huge implications for U.S. policy toward population management, especially immigration policy. Our policies of encouraging high rates of immigration are rooted in the belief of economists that population growth is a good thing, fueling economic growth. Through most of human history, the interests of the common good and business (corporations) were both well-served by continuing population growth. For the common good, we needed more workers to man our factories, producing the goods needed for a high standard of living. This population growth translated into sales volume growth for corporations. Both were happy.

But, once an optimum population density is breached, their interests diverge. It is in the best interest of the common good to stabilize the population, avoiding an erosion of our quality of life through high unemployment and poverty. However, it is still in the interest of corporations to fuel population growth because, even though per capita consumption goes into decline, total consumption still increases. We now find ourselves in the position of having corporations and economists influencing public policy in a direction that is not in the best interest of the common good.

The U.N. ranks the U.S. with eight third world countries – India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Democratic Republic of Congo, Bangladesh, Uganda, Ethiopia and China – as accounting for fully half of the world’s population growth by 2050. It's absolutely imperative that our population be stabilized, and that's impossible without dramatically reining in immigration, both legal and illegal.

Pete Murphy
Author, “Five Short Blasts”


Matthew G. Saroff
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 7:08 am

If I might make a point here, the reason that, “workers have seen a 45 percent decline in their wages and standard of living since 1980,” is because illegal aliens have been used to break unions and drive down wages.

Meat packers used to earn middle class wages.

I agree that the real solution is not raids, but rather aggressive prosecution of the employers, including civil forfeiture.


Brittanicus
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 11:15 am

People are always complaining that to live in Los Angeles county, is the one of the most expensive places to live in America. The taxes for properties have escalated over the last 20 years along with everything else. Once the Democratic leftist assembly engineered Proportion 187 to the trash pile and not the courts, taxes skyrocketed. The open border special interest had won a major war to extend welfare to illegal immigrants in the county. Not only to saturate the county with millions of illegal families have planted themselves in the county, but in the state. Not from just across the distressed border, but by overstaying visas, from China–Canada–Russia–Ireland and anywhere else.

Initiated by Democrat Dianne Feinstein, San Francisco became no.1 Sanctuary City, flowed by Los Angeles were police were forbidden to question people of their legal status. Over a period of time hard core-slime gang members infested the neighborhoods from impoverished nations. Cold blooded murders by gun or machete is now a daily occurrence. Because of the influx of cheap labor thousands of legal residents and even citizens lost their jobs. Pariah contractors took advantage on street corners to offer a few dollars for services. Living by the thousands in squalid conditions of families crammed into a garage, the landlords became contaminated with greed. This year Governor Schwarzenegger state buckled under a $47 billion budget deficit because of 4 million plus illegal immigrants.

Through violating Federal law, thousands of foreign nationals live in low income housing. Mothers who crossed the border to intentionally have children, under a questionable law of automatic citizenship. Have taken taxpayers to the cleaners, with millions of dollars owed to hospitals in baby delivery. In California there are many violations of federal law of welfare payments and an almost endless list of other benefits meant for the US legal population. Much of the money paid to illegal aliens is paid under the table by parasite employer, with billions being exported to foreign lands–not going into the states negative coffers. Terrible management by Sacramento leftist and the influx of poverty stricken immigrants has now culminated in even higher taxes for Angeleno's in 2009.

Now these anti-sovereignty lawmakers are begging President Obama for even more money, that will be used for many infrastructure projects–such as Highway repair, bridges. If the Heritage Foundation is correct 300.000 illegal labor will get jobs that by law, should go to American Workers? This is because Sen. Harry Reid, Speaker Nancy Pelosi secretly tabled E-Verify, that would have foreseen fraudulent document, such as Social Security ID. Annually Social security numbers are stolen or otherwise compromised by illegal aliens–even deceased peoples social security number in not safe. Today greed is not just a staple of Wall street, but in most state Capitols. Politicians and THE PEOPLE of America are livid, yet frustrated with Insurance giant AIG, but we support 40 million illegal aliens–analyzed by Heritage Foundation, with nearly a trillion dollars a year. As of today Rep. Gutierrez’s tour making it's rounds touting how wonderful AMNESTY would be for America. He and many others see unlimited immigration as a boon to our nation. But in truth it will cost–YOU–the taxpayer a trillions? In health care, major illnesses, education–and access to Social Security and pensions. But those here could sponsor their extended families abroad in other countries, could bring in their sick brothers, mentally handicapped relatives–the costs born by you. Then what about the next waves of indigent people, who missed this AMNESTY, thinking if they slip across the border, they can catch the next chance a becoming legal.

We should enforce the 1986 immigration laws in the Simpson/Mazzoli control act.

We just cannot keep supplementing the income of every illegal alien who crosses our border by any means. E-Verify must be made a positive example to stop further ingress of illegal alien taking the jobs of legal Angeleno's or any legal worker in the country. It should be made permanent as part of immigration laws. Although derailed by the leftists, it will survive till September. It is now up to the AMERICAN PEOPLE to demand it is funded forever. America can no longer afford to support millions of immigrants. Call your Senator or Representative–NOW! Please do not procrastinate. Do not listen to it's critics, who all have a nefarious motive for sinking laws that halt illegal immigration. You cannot be more successful than 99.6 percent with the E-Verify program, that 50 Democrats cut out of the Stimulus/Omnibus spending packages. Call the Washington Switchboard 202-224-3121. To find your Senator: http://www.senate.gov/ To phone your Representative: http://www.house.gov/ Leave a comment for the President: 202) 456-1414, To comment: Comments (202) 456-111


Norski
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 2:13 pm

Matthew G. Saroff – So tell me… How does one catch an employer for hiring Illegal Aliens without first identifying said Illegal Aliens? And once said Illegal Aliens are identified, how does one not enforce the law regarding their illegal presence?


Susan R
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 2:36 pm

No one is breaking up families. The illegal knows the risks and can take his/her family with them when they leave.
If I rob a bank to feed my family, who I not go to jail? Can I bring my family with me? This is a ridiculous argument you try to pass to Americans. They know better.

If all illegals want to do is work, why all all states trying to get rid of them. Why do Americans want them gone? THEY MUST GO>


c
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 3:01 pm

It would not hurt the economy in any significant way, and the government wastes far more money on other matters than it would take to get illegal immigration under control. As far as “tearing apart families”, the illegals know the risks when coming here, so that's their own fault.


j ceballos
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 4:22 pm

May I ask you a question? What about the American's who happen to be married to illegal immigrants. I understand all that illegal immigration can contribut to. And although I really wish for amnesty, I don't think it's realistic or fair to immigrants who have already paid all their “fees for their papers”. Let me explain…Me and my husband have four children. I can't find a job in this economy, and even if I could, couldn't support all of us and pay immigration application fees. So, my husband works. Well we know that he's not supposed to drive, but one of us has to pay the bills to take care of us. We want to do this legally, but we really don't have much of an option. We risk losing our whole life in the case of a mere license check on his way to work. I don't think it's fair that he should have to go back to his home country to wait for a visa, not when we have our family here. I understand where you are coming from, and all I'm asking is for you to understand where I'm coming from. If we could pay fines on a payment schedule for him to stay with us, that would be fine. I'd sell my living room furniture and go hungry just to have my husband. I just can't bear the thoughts of having to explain to four small children that their daddy couldn't live with us because of this great country's government. I think that alot of stuff is just junk, but in the case of families I think this is certainly relevant. Could you help?


Eddie Brown
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 5:41 pm

Oh, Let me get this straight…Because illegal aliens snuck into the country and illegaly obtained employment that is now resulting in the downward pressure on wages, the solution is to make them legal so they are on a “level playing field” with Citizen and legal immigrants?? I'm an American carpenter and I have a better idea that would help American workers…Fire illegal workers and give the jobs to legal workers. Lot's of illegal workers causing problems in the labor sector? No problem, make them legal! (POOF!) See, look! No more problem with illegal workers because we just made them Legal workers!! Now there is no more illegal workers to cause a problem. HAR! HAR! HAR! what a joke. Does Daphne Eviatar actually get paid to think up such nonsense?


Oliver
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 8:19 pm

Do you really think we are that stupid???

If you get rid of cheap illegal slave labor the jobs MUST go to American laborers and the hell with a “path to citizenship”.


Brittanicus
Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 11:33 am

AIG bonuses don't hold a candle, to the billions spent to support 40 million illegal aliens occupying our nation. We need E-verify application to disqualify alien labor from our workplace. Only the critics who have something to gain from its dismantling E-Verify, as they are continuously making waves about its excellent capabilities.

They express its unreliable, out-of-date or some other diatribe. Invented by open border orators, immigration attorney organizations, pro-illegal immigration politicians who have been brought by their corporate benefactors to sack its permanent use. The Democratic leadership under House Speaker Pelosi (D-CA) killed it silently in the Stimulus/Omnibus bill, but it will keep breathing until September.

Strange that under the flag of our Framers, these politicians we voted to office are cutting American Workers throats for the dollar bill. We must bring to a halt illegal immigration, as its costing taxpayers hundreds of billions annually. It must be embraced by every business nationwide and those who ignore it, should go to prison.

They are after all, taking away the livelihoods of the legal population. If you don't mind competing with illegal immigrants on any rung of your career. Find the truth here: NUMBERSUSA, JUDICIALWATCH, CAPSWEB.


JustSayNo
Comment posted March 23, 2009 @ 10:04 am

Conditions improved be workers that willingly undermine our employment and labor laws were weeded out so that our legal citzen workforce could work by the standards we've long fought for. The notion that they are jobs American's won't perform is false. They are simple American's won't perform for subpar wages and standards — that illegal immigrants help to create by willingly undermining our citizen workforce and all that we have accomplished as a nation. Make them legal? That only makes it easier for them to stay here. It doesn't change the fact that they don't feel any obligation to follow any law that they deem personally inconvenient.


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Norski
Comment posted March 24, 2009 @ 8:08 am

You premise is what is the joke. Illegal Immigrants can drive down pay becase there is a very large oversupply of labor in the Un-skilled and Semi-skilled Labor Markets. Legalizing Illegal Immigrants locks in this imbalance so that crooked employers can keep wages low for the next decade and continue to get richer. Why do you think that close to two thirds of the money going to lobby congress for Comprehensive Immigration Reform comes from big business. The real question is what segment of big business are you representing with your premise? Big Hotel? Big Meatpacking? Big Construction?


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Muriya
Comment posted March 25, 2009 @ 2:46 pm

Exactly , let’s focus on American families. 1.6 million American families got impacted with this immigration laws .

People got deported not even considering the citizenship of their kids and spouses, torturing families apart.
If we talking about violation of Human Rights what about rights of the kids to have there parents and family unity that not even considered in today’s Immigration Law.
I agree with Amnesty too much violations of Human right in today’s Immigration law that needs to be changed.


Alfredo
Comment posted April 15, 2009 @ 9:29 am

This country is truly owned by the Native Indians. Americans had came from New England. So they shouldn't be selfish about other migrants coming here.
Everyone came from some where. There are alot of reasons for this. Because may be they wanted a better life for them and their families. Some countries are very poor and so are the living conditions.
Everyone deserves a chance of “FREEDOM”. After all isn't this what America is all about.
Some of the jobs some of these American people wouldn't accept the migrants would accept. Because they know how tough it was back in their old homelands. Some of the the American rely on the government for alot of things, even things they don't need just being pure lazy and spoiled.


Quicksilver
Comment posted April 16, 2009 @ 11:58 am

You knew when you married him that he was illegal. What part of illegal don't you understand? Families don't have to be torn apart – go back with him until he can come to this country legally – otherwise – you knew what you were getting into.


Quicksilver
Comment posted April 16, 2009 @ 6:58 pm

You knew when you married him that he was illegal. What part of illegal don't you understand? Families don't have to be torn apart – go back with him until he can come to this country legally – otherwise – you knew what you were getting into.


Key
Comment posted June 27, 2009 @ 2:10 am

OHHHHHHHHHHHH boooo hoooooooo, when you came to this country “illegally” and gave birth to your child in this country, that STILL DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT!
To me, as an American citizen footing your bill to give birth to your child, in my opinion, your child is just as illegal as you are! WHO CARES ABOUT OUR LAWS, RIGHT?
WHAT IS A LAW ANYWAY, YOU CERTAINLY DON'T FOLLOW THEM AND THEN YOU TRY TO HIDE BEHIND THEM WITH YOUR CHILD! YOU KNEW DARN WELL WHAT YOU WHERE DOING WHEN YOU CAME HERE! GOOOOOOOOO HOME AND TAKE YOUR ILLEGAL CHILD WITH YOU!


Key
Comment posted June 27, 2009 @ 2:32 am

Sorry, you knew what you where getting into when you married an “illegal”, what happens when your illegal husband hits an “AMERICAN” with your car and send them to a hospital, do you have insurance to pay for it? NOT!
As for your “sob” story with the 4 children, that's another “YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WHERE GETTING INTO BEFORE THE MARRIAGE” NO SYMPATHY FROM ME, THE “TAXPAYER”
FOOTING YOUR BILLS!
AND WOULD YOU PLEASE QUIT HIDING BEHIND OUR “LAW” WITH YOUR CHILDREN,
TO ME, THEY ARE JUST AS ILLEGAL AS YOUR HUSBAND!
YOU OF ALL SHOULD KNOW
ABOUT BREAKING LAWS, AND NOT GIVING A FLYING HOOT UNTIL YOU GET CAUGHT THEN TRY TO HIDE BEHIND A “LAW” WITH YOUR CHILDREN!
YOUR PITIFUL, GET LEGAL AND YOU WONT HAVE TO HIDE BEHIND YOUR CHILDREN ANY MORE!
OH AND IT'S CALLED '”RESPONSIBLITY” IN THIS COUNTRY FOR ONESELF!
AND I DON'T WANT TO BE RESPOSIBLE FOR YOU AND YOUR ILLEGAL HUSBAND, I HAVE TO BE RESPOSIBLE FOR MY “OWN” LIFE!


Key
Comment posted June 27, 2009 @ 2:56 am

$338 billion a year on the taxpayers of this country to support all these illegals, ahhhhhhhh and Freedommmmmmmmmmm!
Freedom does comes at a cost, I had a lot of GENERATIONS OF relatives die for my countries freedom!

And yes, some Americans do rely on the government for help and support, and it's paid for by
me the “AMERCIAN” taxpayer, NOT the illegals who never put a plug nickel into our system!

My relatives came from other countries many, many generations ago, and they
LEARNED THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND FOLLOWED THIS COUNTRIES “LAWS!”
AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, DIED FOR THIS COUNTRY!

AND NO WE ARE NOT SELFISH, WE ONLY ASK FOR OUR “LAWS” TO BE HONORED AND OBEYED BY ANYONE WHO DECIDES TO LIVE IN OUR GREAT COUNTRY!
WHAT IS SOOOOO DARN HARD ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THAT?

AND COULD YOU QUIT HIDING BEHIND OUR “LAW” FOR CHILDREN BORN HERE,
YOU ONLY LIKE A LAW THAT HELPS PROTECT YOU, THEN “OUR LAWS” ARE OKAY, RIGHT?
AS LONG AS IT'S FOR YOUR “OWN GOOD”- RIGHT?
WHO ARE YOU KIDDING!


BBBBBBBBBBBB
Comment posted August 30, 2009 @ 1:48 am

If “everyone came from somewhere”, as you say, then where did the American Indians come from? In other words, are any people indigenous to their current land?
Your's is a fellacious argument, one which is generally put forth by bleeding hearts.
Invoking the quest for freedom also doesn't help your case. America is free because we have been, traditionally, willing to fight to preserve our way of life. This way of life includes, and is predicated upon, the following of laws. There can be no rationalizing the willingness of some to break the laws of a country they will, presumably, take a vow to uphold the laws of. Additionally, if some Americans are lazy and spoiled, relying on the government for alot of things, others are over-achievers and make the most of what this country has to offer. Either path is OK, not necessarily admirable, but OK, because they are entitled to the freedom of choice as American citizens.
Lastly, there is not a single American citizen I know that is “selfish” about legal migration. Quite the contrary, I, and others like me, welcome all people of all colors, nationalities and beliefs, so long as they enter this great country LEGALLY!! All others do not belong here and should be forced to leave. If they come back legally, they can look me up and I'll be the first to give them a welcome hug.


S Long
Comment posted September 10, 2009 @ 6:27 am

I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but I just have to say, Key, are you a dumb f**k? Did you even read the comment that you replied so rudely to? Do you know anything at all about immigration law or the fees that these people are supposed to pay before they can come here legally in the first place? I doubt you do, because administrative and application fees differ for various countries. Do you know anything about how some of those 40 million illegals got here in the first place? Some of them are actually brought here quite legally as refugees and then 20 years later when their refugee status expires, they all the sudden find themselves being illegal – by that time, they have families established here. What about the ones who are told that they are perfectly legal, have paid tens of thousands of dollars to come here, only to find out when they apply for something like a license, that some jackass gave them fake papers? No, that's right, I guess you don't know about those instances. I find it quite interesting that people like to run their mouths about things they don't have a clue about. I ESPECIALLY FIND IT AMUSING WHEN PEOPLE FEEL THE NEED TO SPEAK IN ALL CAPS – because they think they are “getting a point accross,” when really they just look stupid for trying to yell. How exactly do you know that this woman DID know that her husband was illegal when they got married? Oh, and since those children are as good as illegal to you, then why don't we just let you and your family and your children pay the taxes that those three million children with at least one undocumented parent will be paying. I don't think illegal immigration is right, and I'm not supporting it – but I think people like you should quit bitching about it and start doling out ideas to make the situation better. Bitch about illegals not paying taxes. Well duh, if illegals weren't illegal anymore, then they'd be required to pay taxes too.
To those who think the illegals are stealing your jobs – do some research and ask the employers why they employ illegals. It's got nothing to do with substandard pay. I came from an area where there was a huge amount of illegal immigrants and almost all of them made more than I did – I have a college education – I'm a nurse for God's sake. Here's the real reason why – it's true that Americans won't do the same jobs. Go to a construction site and ask the foreman who the best worker they have is. Guaranteed they will all tell you it's someone NOT American – and I'm not saying that those people are hispanics either. There are immigrants in this country from all over the world, they are both illegal and legal. They are here because they are looking for opportunity, and when opportunity knocks, an immigrant opens the damned door. Americans sit around looking at each other saying, the next time someone knocks the opportunity will be better. Immigrants work harder, stronger, faster, and longer than Amercians, because Americans believe that they should be paid more and do less. Lazy bastards. Maybe if we as a country didn't make it so opportunistic by leaving jobs available before the recession, then immigrants would find opportunities elsewhere and not choose to come to our country.
And yes, we all came from somewhere. It was and has been for a very long time been theorized that Native Americans (including all of the natives from the North, Central, and South Americas) came here by way of a land bridge connecting the Americas and Asia.
To sum up my thoughts about illegal immigration – it's a fact of life, and it happens, no matter where you live, where you're from, or where you're going, there will always be “illegal immigration.” Go back and read your history books – even the greatest civilizations of all time eventually succumbed to outside invasion. This should pretty well teach us all that sitting around groaning about it gets you nowhere. Rather, the United States government needs to make some serious changes to our current immigration laws to cope with the situation at hand. Defiance and stubborness on our part is why our healthcare system is shutting down – we can't possibly afford to pay for the debt we incur on a daily basis because we refuse to adapt and incorporate the illegals into our system. I can't personally say what all the changes are that need to be made, of course, that's why I'm not sitting around bitching about the problem!


jimjaved
Comment posted December 27, 2009 @ 10:39 pm

Hi All,

America is a country of immigrants. People who came here have always been very enterprising and determined to make a great name for this country and for themselves and surely thenceforth this country has become the greatest on earth. All people who came here sacrificed their family and friends whom they left behind to achieve their dream in this land of opportunity. No wonder this country has thence become the best and greatest in the world. To discourage immigrants, who are competing in a global economy is not only detrimental to the continued greatness and prosperity of this country, but also harmful to all Americans and to our country by allowing us to rest on the laurels of our predecessors and expecting to be landed jobs in our lap without having to compete openly in this global village.

It is just plain commonsense that such an attitude is neither dignified nor patriotic and will only not only make us weaker as people and as a country but would also well result in losng our global leadership position and our prosperity. The only fair reason for anyone complaining should be if someone is not working as hard or as good but getting paid better and if that were to be happening here this country will begin in a downward spiral toward losing its prosperity and its global leadersip position.

The right thing for all Americans is to stop resting on the laurels of our predecessors and instead continue to show the same zeal and hard work that our forefathers displayed thus making this country the greatest. Indeed most Americans understand this and that is what continues to keep our country most prosperous. However some of us who like to just have what we are used to or what we want without wanting to openly compete in this global economy is just harming ourselves. It is neither right or fair thinking but only harmful both in short term and the long term.

I thus think that passing of the comprehensive immigration reform is in the best interest of Americans and our country. It will only continue to make our country prosperous and great. The only people who are harmful to our country are criminals/drug traffickers and they are the ones we should get rid of.

May God give us the courage and strength to continue to compete openly in this gobal village without fearing people who are better contributors than us and thus continue to keep this country the most prosperous and the most blessed nation on earth. Amen


american79
Comment posted December 28, 2009 @ 3:39 am

Hi All,

America is a country of immigrants. People who came here have always been very enterprising and determined to make a great name for this country and for themselves and surely thenceforth this country has become the greatest on earth. All people who came here sacrificed their family and friends whom they left behind to achieve their dream in this land of opportunity. No wonder this country has thence become the best and greatest in the world. To discourage immigrants, who are competing in a global economy is not only detrimental to the continued greatness and prosperity of this country, but also harmful to all Americans and to our country by allowing us to rest on the laurels of our predecessors and expecting to be landed jobs in our lap without having to compete openly in this global village.

It is just plain commonsense that such an attitude is neither dignified nor patriotic and will only not only make us weaker as people and as a country but would also well result in losng our global leadership position and our prosperity. The only fair reason for anyone complaining should be if someone is not working as hard or as good but getting paid better and if that were to be happening here this country will begin in a downward spiral toward losing its prosperity and its global leadersip position.

The right thing for all Americans is to stop resting on the laurels of our predecessors and instead continue to show the same zeal and hard work that our forefathers displayed thus making this country the greatest. Indeed most Americans understand this and that is what continues to keep our country most prosperous. However some of us who like to just have what we are used to or what we want without wanting to openly compete in this global economy is just harming ourselves. It is neither right or fair thinking but only harmful both in short term and the long term.

I thus think that passing of the comprehensive immigration reform is in the best interest of Americans and our country. It will only continue to make our country prosperous and great. The only people who are harmful to our country are criminals/drug traffickers and they are the ones we should get rid of.

May God give us the courage and strength to continue to compete openly in this gobal village without fearing people who are better contributors than us and thus continue to keep this country the most prosperous and the most blessed nation on earth. Amen


Sugadinga
Comment posted June 18, 2010 @ 10:15 pm

You are destined to lose…why? For one thing you are prejudiced…for example you line yourselves up against the moslems as if the Moslems have no point at all for example….listen you went to war against the moslems and you killed a lot of people so that the lost tribe of the Jews would take the palestinians land away from them!! You went to war for the wrong causes….though the Israelis may have some rights they do not have the right to persecute those people which is what they are doing….yet you direct yourselves against them…all the while funding tremendous deficits against us here!!! This war is killing us!!! And they are wars that we will lose, guaranteed…they are not winnable..

This war is wrong and for as long as you set yourselves against the end of it you will never ever have enough to stop illegal immigration….you will lose the battle and the war!!!! I mean what I say, and I guarantee the eventual outcome….if you want justice you must give justice, not expect justice when you yourselves are unjust…

If you want to stop illegal immigration you must first stop insisting on carrying on this exceedingly destructive war…a war that represents nothing of the American people's true aspirations and manifest destiny….only then can you gather the political force needed to stop illegal immigration which frankly will kill this nation if it is not stopped….these two issues are the two most important issues in this nation and they are the two most destructive but you cannot solve one without the other.


Mcjj14343
Comment posted July 29, 2010 @ 2:47 am

With all these problems people hospitals and schools feel angered and burdened about, can't someone make a suggestion to directly bill the federal government. What I mean is when someone who is an illegal immigrant seeks help at a hospital you need to allow that hospital to bill the federal government directly. That would begin to lessn the anger that folks like in Arizona feel!


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Comment posted September 3, 2010 @ 5:42 pm

It is just plain commonsense that such an attitude is neither dignified nor patriotic and will only not only make us weaker as people and as a country but would also well result in losng our global leadership position and our prosperity. The only fair reason for anyone complaining should be if someone is not working as hard or as good but getting paid better and if that were to be happening here this country will begin in a downward spiral toward losing its prosperity and its global leadersip position.


Juan Delgado
Comment posted August 29, 2011 @ 10:39 pm

EVERY problem this country has can be traced directly to illegal immigration from illegal drug distribution and hooking middle and grade schools on drugs to prostitute American companies such as Wal Mart hiring illegal Mexicans over American citizens to bought and paid for politicians such as the Kenyan racist Obama. The disaster called public eduction to the hundreds of billions spent every year by the federal government and state government on food stamps legalizing 50 million illegal immigrants including MILLIONS of illegal Mexican criminals is a crime against the American people period and the Kenyan should not be allowed to run for National dog catcher but we still have ignorant anti American sob’s like Kerry and Reid the American people are screwed!


guest
Comment posted August 29, 2011 @ 10:49 pm

Are you stupid? A Black American Texan Representative Barbara Jordan told Congress how to do it years ago but Congress is to busy feeding cheap labor to their millionaire and billionaire contributors to do anything about it but there is still a simple answer E_verify and ICE fool!


Jdman45
Comment posted August 29, 2011 @ 10:51 pm

You are very intelligent Norski period!


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