AIG Still Living in Denial As It Pays Out Millions in Bonuses

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Sunday, March 15, 2009 at 11:33 am

Bailed-out insurance giant AIG will no doubt be a heated topic of discussion today, with The Wall Street Journal and other news organizations reporting that the failed and essentially insolvent company is vowing to pay out $450 million in bonuses to its “top performers” — you know, the folks in the financial products unit, many of whom contributed to bringing the company to ruin and helped tank the entire economy in the process.

We should all have jobs like that.

My favorite non-explanation comes from AIG’s leader Edward Libby, who said in a letter to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner that AIG had to pay those big bonuses to keep all of its super-talented staff, The Washington Post explained. Those highly prized folks might leave the firm, Libby said, “if employees believe that their compensation is subject to continued and arbitrary adjustment by the U.S. Treasury.”

Those employees might actually have a point. When a company takes $170 billion in taxpayer money to keep itself afloat, there’s always the possibility the government might have a few things to say about how those funds get spent.

And this is one of those times.

Clearly, the Obama administration is ticked off about this whole thing, or they wouldn’t have leaked the bonuses payments all over the media. But that’s not enough. This whole mess raises a raft of concerns that aren’t assuaged simply by knowing that Geithner is really, really mad.

Let’s start:

1. Compensation contracts are renegotiated all the time in corporate America. Surely, some court or judge would be open to the reality that circumstances changed greatly after those bonuses were initially promised, before the financial crisis began.  AIG could tell the employees to go ahead and sue. The company might either win, or its legal costs and possibly lower bonus payments still would be less than the $450 million. And AIG would set a precedent – this isn’t the way the world works now. We could be on the precipice of a depression. You don’t get a bonus just for showing up for work anymore.

2. Geithner could say this to Libby: Fine. You pay the bonuses, we take our money back. This would be my preference. It also would severely lessen the chances another bailed out firm would try to pull this stuff.

3. Geithner could say to Libby: Fine. Let those employees walk.

I’ve raised this point before: where are the companies out there dying to hire these people? The most recent experience on their resumes is at a company that failed spectacularly. They worked in the financial products unit — which totally blew it. What firms, exactly, find themselves in dire need of someone highly skilled at devising credit default swaps? Where are the feature stories in Fortune about the race among corporations to get their hands on prized former AIG employees?

Call their bluff. If they all go, there are enough other unemployed or underemployed people out their with financial services experience that I don’t see the difficulty in filling the jobs. And next time around, maybe AIG should look a little closer at character issues and ethics awareness. Just a suggestion.

AIG may have thought it won this round, but I suspect it badly miscalculated. This story is not going away anytime soon, and angry lawmakers and the public will be pushing for even more punitive measures. Government officials are said to be “exasperated” with AIG over the bonuses. That’s nothing. Wait until it sinks in with the rest of us.

Comments

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winner
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 9:16 am

This situation is insane. They truly have no clue how most Americans are seeing this.


jax
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 9:42 am

This is sick. Why in the world are we helping these companies that keep sending millions to people who do not know how to run a company? They cry yet get paid millions on the “average joes” taxes. Furthermore, I fear this is just the tip of the iceberg. Look what Enterprise rent-a-car did to get bailout funds:

http://www.butasforme.com/2009/02/25/alert-enterprise-rent-a-car-may-have-fired-employees-as-fake-evidence-when-lobbing-for-bailout-money/


Roger
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 9:45 am

The US Government will have CLEARLY AND COMPLETELY FAILED United States taxpayers if this progresses without change. If a company in todays world finds itself in distress or of other financial crisis, there are only a few options. The main option is to SELL THE COMPANY or break up the divisions and sell them off to the competitors who are financially stable and who don't pay out Millions of dollars in Executive Bonuses. Isn't this the nature of business??? If AIG cannot pay bonuses to it's employees and they decide to walk, then they are getting exactly what any failed company deserves!!! THIS IS MY and YOUR MONEY!!!!!! DOES ANYONE ELSE NOT SEE THIS!!!!! Here's an idea, place some contractual agreements prior to releasing any further money that strictly controls its usage within the organization!!!! Or BETTER YET – LET THE COMPANIES FAIL!!!!! Bailout is just another way of saying “Lets throw some money into this so we can delay hitting rock bottom”.

Unless things change, US government will be run by financial institutions.


Daniel Tillmanns
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 9:46 am

I'd tax very high bonuses at a much higher rate. The tax code already has tax rates at different levels for different sources.
A billion dollars? That's a thousand times a million. Most people could retire completely after a one million pay out.


RABO
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 9:49 am

This is an indefensible display of arrogance presumed privilege, and greed. How can you be so “super talented” and highly skilled yet fail so miserably at a game in which you make up the rules as you go along?
Let them all walk, they are easily replaceable. If AIG issues a nickel in “bonuses”, “retention awards” or under any other name let's take OUR money back and apply it somewhere where it will be utilized in a more responsible manner.


linda
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 9:51 am

SINCE there are sooooo many unemployed people out there , i am sure you will find people who could do the job way better, also for alot less. this is still the tax payers money and we should have a say… i say take the money back and let the upper spoiled ceo's experiance the income that we live with…NOTHING….


sailhardy
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 9:55 am

Yes, those lawmakers have a right to be angry. How dare AIG behave as badly as Congress! After all, Congress restrained itself on earmarks with the most recent federal budget and only awarded itself a little over $7,000,000,000. True, the AIG bonuses, which are a good deal less costly, come out of taxpayer money, but where does the money come from for earmarks? And it is true the AIG bonuses are designed to keep AIG executives in place…but isn't that what the earmarks are for? To keep our elected representatives and senators in office as long as they can grasp every dollar they can. No, neither Congress nor the President, nor his Administration is well-placed to express outrage after the earmark feeding frenzy. The Administration, in fact, tried to pass the buck to Bush, by saying the whole budget was yesterday's business, overlooking the facts that it was this year's Congress which tacked on 9,000 earmarks, using the crisis as an opportunity to gorge, and this year's president who looked the other way.

Thanks a lot, jerks.


Michael
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 9:59 am

I am calling my insurance agent first thing in the morning and insisting no matter what the the cost to insure all my personal and business insurance is not directly held by AIG. It appears we all most sacrifice with the exemption of AIG. In that case I don't mind suffering a little more to pass on the fun to those who “don't get it”.


bill
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 10:02 am

OUTRAGEOUS !!! INSANE!!! IRESPONISBLE!!!

I went 3 years without a raise and 5 years without a bonus even though my personal reviews were outstanding. If a business does not make a profit then the company has FAILED!!!! The idea of giving out bonuses to individuals in a company that is surviving on tax payers money is abominable. This is literally making me sick just to have read this.


T. Fisher
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 10:03 am

AIG just doesn't get it. It is a new time. All you educated, white shirt tie boys created this problem with your greed. The board members let you do it because they were making MONEY not worried about the outcome. Now,it's time to pay the piper . You want the taxpayers to bail you with our money and you go on like nothing has happened. I feel sorry for the average people that work for you; because I'm sure they are not gaining anything from all the money you have already gotten.As far as I care I think you should not be given anymore money and go under. It's time to let the chips fall where they may. The bank (taxpayers are dry)… NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!


Bo
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 10:03 am

It is all posturing by Frank, Dodd, Biden, etal.

They were part of the group that allowed standards to be taken away (Glass-Steagall & short selling & sub-prime FM & FM), and allowed the collusion of government employees becoming corporate officers influencing their former staff and bosses.

Congress' oversight of the Fed, Sec, etc. was MISERABLE. Could not even catch Madoff running a rather obvious scam controlling money in, money held and monies reported & disbursed. Congress has been bought off and tries to put the blame elsewhere everywhere they can.

If you or I did what Congress does, we would be cell mates with Madoff.

Time for serious openness in financial affairs in all the financial sector.


MSG
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 10:03 am

The revolution starts now! Wake up America!


a edwards
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 10:13 am

I want my $170 billion back. Obama wake up. We are being ripped off. Fold this AIG. Do not wiat another minute. Today before bonuses are paid. What legal councel? A trained pig could get out of these bonues.
please stop this madness! Making me sick.

If company want addtiaaon baliout money, all bonuse receptcants must sign off on bonus. Also, Obomas big concesion for next year is a %30 reduction. What about nothing! Are we in lala land?

Tax TARP bonuses at %100, easy fix.


bill
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 10:14 am

And we thought Madoff ran a giant ponzi scheme. AIG just bilked the US taxpayers out $170 million dollars and are rewarding the people who helped put them in a position so that they could.


gfzhou
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 10:37 am

The most simple principle for payment is one should be paid according to his performance. If one's performance has made his unit bankrupt or dying, he should pay back what he has earned during the period of employment, including all the bonuses, benefits, fringes, rewards, and so on and so forth. If not, he should take the training course for the management beginners.


Jerry Ulibarri
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 10:38 am

Perfectly stated. I have always wondered about the pomposity of the “we pay for talent” argument.

There are millions of higher qualified people walking around whose only deficiency is lack of extreme greed. It's time to purge our leadership of type “A” personalities, and replace them with Obamalike people.


Brittanicus
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 11:13 am

AIG is not the only location of festering greed, even when our country is submerged in dark chasm of unemployment and foreclosures. The reason AIG, a massive mega insurance company became insolvent is that it got too big? It is a stain on America integrity as the ponzi scheme of Mr. Maldoff has shown us. When Americans taxpayers are suffering from this terrible plight cause by so many individual issues.

The import of thousands of fraudulent cheap labor through the H-1B visa game, hardly ever supervised by the dept of labor, engineered by iniquitous immigration attorneys. The unceasing betrayal of our politicians as Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) who has sold out the American worker by killing E-Verify. Unfair trade agreements that have seen our industrial base disappear into third, cheap labor countries, so that millions of US companies have closed their gates.

All around the country we have seen the padlocked factories and silent machines, because it was cheaper to import car parts from Mexico. Then to import them back across the distressed drug infested borders. Then the taxpayer bails out banks, insurance and hundreds or other defaulted business to the tune of more than a trillion dollars. Then without any oversight the executives are still receiving massive bonuses even though the company has failed. As we sink lower into this financial quagmire, our bumbling politicians led by Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), has dishonored his Oath to Nevada constituents and the US people. By tearing out the E-Verify amendment in both the Stimulus/omnibus spending bills. It will now allow at the least 300.000 illegal immigrant labor to take construction jobs from documented workers.

Thanks to the Democratic leadership even our workforce must–submit–to millions of illegal cheap labor. They have squirreled into the both blue collar to the higher professional echelon of positions. We have till September to right this disgusting wrong, by demanding every politician revise–EVERIFY– in perpetuity. Washington switchboard for your incensed calls to 202-224-3121


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Shervan
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 12:38 pm

My goodness. These greedy shortsighted executives who misused AIG's AAA rating to inflict maximum damage on the financial system, who have ruined the the lives of millions, whose arrogance refuses to admit wrong-doing, who are the least-worthy of any bail-out, let alone of this magnitude, now have the nerve of expecting multi-million dollar “bonuses” for a job well done???

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continuum
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 4:06 pm

Enough is enough.

We are we bailing out the crooks who gambled with their shareholders equity and lost.?

Why are these betrayers of their fiduciary responsibilities still walking the streets as free men?

Why in heaven's name are we as taxpayers now supplying funds to pay these failures a bonus?


fortunato
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 4:23 pm

See if i ever pay another cent of my hard earned money in Taxes


Susan
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 4:30 pm

I second your motion Linda. All in favor say “Aye”


David Joblin
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 4:31 pm

Bonuses are for performance. As far as I know the AIG Financial Products Unit has ahhh… slightly underperformed in the last two financial years… Right??? Hence there would appear to be no justification to award bonuses. As far I I know isn't this unit solely in business to wind down the positions they have?

AIG needs to get back to its core insurance business as soon as possible. Paying the insurance performers would appear to be justified as this is the part of the company that will continue. Mr Libby's response to this issue appears very weak. As a last ditch effort to save whatever pennies of shareholder value are left I say bring back Greenberg as an advisor or CEO with a strong regulator minder looking on. My grandmother could have done a better job than any CEO has since he left and she has been dead since 1984.


Ron
Comment posted March 16, 2009 @ 9:00 am

The bonus payout excesses at AIG are just the tip of the iceberg of what is happening with the other Wall Street bailouts including Bank of America. Working productive Americans are bailing out the same crooks that destroyed our economy along with 45% of the wealth in the world and now the American taxpayers and our children will be forced to live a far lower standard of living with reduced prosperity and opportunities due to this but only we pay the price.

Washington has bailed out the banks, Wall Street & their Washington special interests and much of the cost is added to the national debt to by paid by this and future generations while real estate and investments continue to fall. Find out what a growing repudiate the debt movement could mean for treasuries, the dollar, gold and the stock market and how this is a better alternative than Washington’s plans to monetize the debt in future years and tax and destroy our remaining wealth by depreciating the dollar.

The Campaign to Cancel the Washington National Debt By 12/21/2012 Constitutional Amendment is starting now in the U.S. See: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=675946904…


America First
Comment posted March 16, 2009 @ 9:18 am

The other approach to AIG bonuses and contracts is the “do unto others approach” whereby contracts and bonuses are negated by AIG going Chapter 11 bankruptcy the way Wall St. raids corporations, steals pension funds, and simply terminates businesses that were in much better financial health than AIG. These arrogant members are the new American version of the old European nobility and they believe they are entitled to bonuses for all the billions they scammed from the tax payers. They don't care where the cash comes from as long as they get as much as they can all the time. After all they are the architects of turning America into a country of debt slaves whose purpose as slaves now is to bail them out so they can keep us in their servitude. Good article….call their bluff!!!


chris
Comment posted March 16, 2009 @ 11:46 am

Hey……..but as Hank “the Moron” Greenberg said ” you cannot let AIG fail………its a National Treasure” ! i guess it also goes for the loser execs….get a bonus……Pass….Fail….Alive and Breathing?


Ron
Comment posted March 16, 2009 @ 4:00 pm

The bonus payout excesses at AIG are just the tip of the iceberg of what is happening with the other Wall Street bailouts including Bank of America. Working productive Americans are bailing out the same crooks that destroyed our economy along with 45% of the wealth in the world and now the American taxpayers and our children will be forced to live a far lower standard of living with reduced prosperity and opportunities due to this but only we pay the price.

Washington has bailed out the banks, Wall Street & their Washington special interests and much of the cost is added to the national debt to by paid by this and future generations while real estate and investments continue to fall. Find out what a growing repudiate the debt movement could mean for treasuries, the dollar, gold and the stock market and how this is a better alternative than Washington’s plans to monetize the debt in future years and tax and destroy our remaining wealth by depreciating the dollar.

The Campaign to Cancel the Washington National Debt By 12/21/2012 Constitutional Amendment is starting now in the U.S. See: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=675946904…


America First
Comment posted March 16, 2009 @ 4:18 pm

The other approach to AIG bonuses and contracts is the “do unto others approach” whereby contracts and bonuses are negated by AIG going Chapter 11 bankruptcy the way Wall St. raids corporations, steals pension funds, and simply terminates businesses that were in much better financial health than AIG. These arrogant members are the new American version of the old European nobility and they believe they are entitled to bonuses for all the billions they scammed from the tax payers. They don't care where the cash comes from as long as they get as much as they can all the time. After all they are the architects of turning America into a country of debt slaves whose purpose as slaves now is to bail them out so they can keep us in their servitude. Good article….call their bluff!!!


chris
Comment posted March 16, 2009 @ 6:46 pm

Hey……..but as Hank “the Moron” Greenberg said ” you cannot let AIG fail………its a National Treasure” ! i guess it also goes for the loser execs….get a bonus……Pass….Fail….Alive and Breathing?


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