Republicans Make a Case for Prosecuting Bush Officials

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Wednesday, March 04, 2009 at 1:26 pm

The Senate Judiciary Committee’s “Getting to the Truth Through a Nonpartisan Commission of Inquiry” convened this morning to consider Sen. Patrick Leahy’s (D-Vt.) proposal for a sort of “truth and reconciliation” commission.

The hearing was full of all the predictable, lofty statements from illustrious supporters about why a commission would further the American people’s understanding of our nation’s past and true values, and also demonstrate to the world our commitment to truth and justice — most of which I agree with. But what was most surprising was that the Senate Republicans and their witnesses, in the process of ripping apart the idea, made the strongest case I’ve heard yet for why the Department of Justice should prosecute former senior officials of the Bush administration.

Sen. Arlen Specter, the ranking committee Republican, after noting his previous support for judicial review of the Bush administration’s terrorist surveillance program, referred to the recent disclosures of Office of Legal Counsel memos as potentially supporting the case for prosecutions.

“You’ve had some rather startling disclosures, with the publicity in recent days about unusual—to put it mildly—legal opinions” to justify broad executive actions, including homicide. “They’re all being exposed now,” he said, and noted that a forthcoming report from the Office of Professional Responsibility in the Justice Department will likely expose even more.  They’re “starting to tread on what may disclose criminal conduct,” he said.

Rather than going off  “helter-skelter” and conducting a “fishing expedition,” said Specter, “it seems to me that we ought to follow a regular order here … If there’s reason to believe that these justice department officials have given approval for things that they know not to be lawful and sound, go after them.”

The witnesses called to present the Republican opposition to Leahy’s proposal made the same point.

David Rivkin, a former Justice Department official in the Reagan and first Bush administrations and now a partner at the law firm Baker & Hostetler, said a truth commission “is a profoundly bad idea, a dangerous idea, both for policy and for me as a lawyer for legal and constitutional reasons.”

Objecting that Congress would be improperly delegating its oversight power, and that witnesses would be called out for criminal conduct without the right to defend themselves in a trial, he said: “this is to establish a body to engage in what in essence is a criminal investigation of former Bush administration officials,” and that “the subject matter areas, which such a commission would investigate – among them the interrogation and handling of captured enemy combatants and the gathering of electronic intelligence – are heavily regulated by comprehensive criminal statutes, and ensures that the commission’s activities would inevitably invade areas traditionally the responsibility of the Department of Justice.”

Jeremy Rabkin, a law professor at George Mason University who also opposes Leahy’s idea, similarly insisted that in the United States, where we have a fully developed legal system, prosecutions — not truth commissions — are the appropriate course.  A truth commission is something that countries like South Africa and Chile have had, not something we should do here, he said. “In those countries they had to have commissions because they couldn’t have prosecutions. Peace was really in doubt in those countries … they had to trade off prosecutions for peace. We’re not in that situation. If people think we need to have prosecutions, we should have prosecutions.”

Proponents of the truth commission idea, meanwhile, while not ruling out the idea of prosecutions, saw a truth commission as serving a different, and broader, purpose. But it was surprising that, at a hearing cautiously called to discuss “a nonpartisan commission of inquiry,” we heard the strongest case yet  for the prosecution of former Bush administration officials — being made by Republicans.

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86 Comments

Ted Vaill
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 11:16 am

For future generations, Bush Administration officials who violated the law should be prosecuted. “Never again” applies to the Bush Administration as well as the Holocaust.


Janet Greene
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 11:26 am

A “truth commission” is a watered down inquiry; it's inherently dishonest. What we really mean to say is that we want to prosecute, but we don't have the b*lls to come out and say it. We all know that Bush/Cheney & friends broke international and domestic law (with smirks planted firmly on their arrogant faces the entire time); why are we so hesitant to move forward? It's so obvious. If you break the law, you are prosecuted. Is there a separate law for government officials? Is this a two-tier justice system? Clearly it is. I don't know why there is even a question about prosecution. The evidence is in. Bush/Cheney are guilty of horrific crimes including torture and murder.


JJ
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 11:47 am

Type your comment here.
We need the justice system to begin investigations and prosecutions or ciminal activity by government officials, including Bush adn Cheney and all ot the adminsitarion officials engaged in criminal conduct, including war crimes. A truth commission is just an escape clause for cowardly democrats and frightened republicans.


jackfish
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 11:50 am

The more that comes out , the more this becomes a witch hunt…WHAT LAWS , WHAT CRIMES , WHAT CHARGES ,WHAT IMPEACHMENTS ,WHAT INDICTMENTS….Far more Obama cabinet appointees have been accused felons (tax evasion ).. If the DOJ and Congress at time approved Bush' actions ( where does Cheney come in) then all this is a collossal waste of taxpayer money.And don't think that the backlash against the America bashing Bush haters won't be huge….. The US has been safe from terrorist acts these past 7.5 years because of Pres Bush actions.


Tom
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 11:51 am

A “Truth” Commission. It has been often proven that when ever you have anything with the word “Truth” in its name the primary job of the group is to conceal as much of the truth as possible.

Appoint a Special Prosecutor with full subpoena powers. Obama can easily stay out of it because it is within the powers of Congress and the Senate to hold hearings and investigate. In fact, since any resulting prosecution would be the responsibility of the Executive Branch (Department of Justice) the President MUST stay clear of any investigation and/or hearings. Attempting to exercise influence over such investigations or hearings could be considered criminal, i.e., Obsrtuction of Justive.


rube
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 11:58 am

Why would a fair attempt to investigate an administration mirred by its own doing be a bad idea?
Are we a democracy or not?
Please let me know as I can teach my children one way or the another!


bay
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:11 pm

If criminal and corrupt activity is suspected then appoint a special pros..to indict ..They are not above the law an need to be treated just like we would be treated. Not a special committee to poo poo and smack on the hand unless they apologize.. Get the criminals out of our govt..We will not stop until you appoint a special pros. or the world court does..


Hope
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:12 pm

If this country is to continue with any semblance of rule of law that is governed by a constitution, then it is the obligation of congress to fulfill their duty to prosecute those, including a president for abuses of the laws that govern our great nation. He is one man, of many who has been chosen to lead and uphold our constitution. If he misuses this power entrusted to him, then he must be held to account for his lawlessness and abuses. If this is not done, then the future of our country is in jeopardy. The president and congress, sets the standard for the country to follow. A country is only as good and moral as it's government.


Carol scott
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:15 pm

This is not brain surgery. If you want Americans to have confidence in their government, then it is necessary to obey the Constitution. Un-Constitutional behavior should be prosecuted. I think this process should be given to a special prosector……and I definitely think that anyone who ignores a subpoena should be resting comfortably in a jail cell…….like Karl Rove……

We either live with respect for law and the Constitution for all citizens, or we do not……If we do not then what we speak to the rest of the world is pure hypocrisy.


N Bustamante
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:16 pm

Yes…It is about time that some of those people be held accountable for their corruption..lies and outright disregarding our constitution starting with George W.Bush and then Dick Cheney…Carl Rove… Alberto Gonzales…Wolf ivwitcz and the of secretary of defense Ronald Rumsfeld …The whole country is now in a terrible down fall paying the price because of those idiots and their total stupidiiity of a new order in the world….


Harris
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:19 pm

This needs to be pursued as a criminal case, and not by some commission with no power to jail the offenders. To me this smells like treason, and it should be pursued as such, wherever it leads.


ProbationSentences
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:22 pm

All fine and great to leave this to the justice department, maybe in 50 years after every witness has pleaded the 5th under executive priviledge, been held in contempt, loss 25 lbs in jail, changed their minds, and eventually gives their testimonies, then the courts can begin deliberating on their probation sentences. These people will never be prosecuted, don't kid yourselves into think so. Truth in this case would be more useful in defining what we as Americans consider Justice to the world, than probation sentences and a 50 year investigation.


ontheright
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:28 pm

your an idiot, you bleeding heart libs want to protect the enemy and prosecute or own. you folks have always got things backass


RoloTomassi
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:32 pm

Nonsense; the more that comes out, the more it becomes obvious–even to GOPers–that crimes have been committed and need to be prosecuted.


Toolman
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:35 pm

What about 9/11…Who was on watch? Who has managed to bolden the world of terrorist agendas against us? We can see from your comments that you really don't pay attention to anything other than what you want to…i.e. selective hearing.

Crimes, you ask…how about falsely leading us into war? Death toll of Iraqis and Americans together totaling more than 400K… Nope, no crime here… Move on, nothing to see here. A President simply wanted to enact personal vengeance against a dictator that his father wasn't able (or willing) to remove.

Laws? Well we all know that when you have a partisan Attorney General, the law can be interpreted to fit a chosen need or desire. Gonzalez was nothing more than a puppet for the Bush agenda – he did not care for the law or the people of this nation. Forgive and forget right?

And simply because we haven't been attacked since 9/11 doesn't mean that we are safe from terrorists. One doesn't equate to the other. Not only that, we will never be entirely safe – there is no absolute method to protect against terrorism – try picking up a book once in a while and educate your sorry intellect. Bush simply got lucky that there weren't any attacks – look at the ineptness of FEMA under Bush…do you really think Homeland Security was any better? And like any politician, they will take credit for anything, whether something happened or not.


threalReginald
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:37 pm

Wrong Idiot!!

Bush's actions have empowered and accelerated many forms of terrorism including those who are now profiting from the current economic crisis. You dumb ass Republicans need to know your roles and shut yer freakin holes! You guys are serious tards. I wish we could export you all to Australia so we could build a well functioning society in peace. Between 2000's stolen election, Eron, foreknowledge of 911, and Halliburton,s massive rip off American tax payers, I'm pretty sure there is plenty to prosecute.

Send them to Abu Ghraib with red, white, and blue panties on.


BeautifulWitch
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:41 pm

Well, ontheright, I suggest you go to MSNBC, the Olbermann show, view the video with “John Dean,” who is an attorney, Richard Nixon days, yes, Watergate break-in fame (unless you are too young to remember, and that could be) and listen to what he says. To paraphrase, he thinks it borders on the criminal. He's an attorney. I trust his judgment. He was a Republican.


Harris
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:44 pm

You people… You don't care about democracy, rule of law, the Constitution. You don't vote for presidents.You just want a king, not subject to the laws of the land. What cowards you are, to be so willing to sell out our founding principles, the entire reason we exist as a nation, at the first blow. You flinch so hard that you'd sell us all out to the very things from which our Founding Fathers sought to free us. I thank God we had braver men than you in charge after Pearl Harbor. Toughen up and start acting like an American. If you're not sure what that means then you should read that Constitution your favorite president was so ready to toss out the window.

You want safety? You want security? Anyone with a gun and a room with a locked door can give you that, but there are no Americans on the other side of that door. The only people there are *subjects*. Decide what *you* are.


sparks134
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:46 pm

An idiotic statement. There has been no safety.The Guys in office were robbing the country blind of trillions of dollars.Now we are in a depression because of the thievery.Is that safety? Go to any airport and you will see how stupidly they are run. However It may not be planes we have to fear now. Trucks on our highway sytem,may be next.How difficult would it be to take a delivery of a container from an overseas vessel in canada,drive it to niagara falls,and from there who knows? And defending Chaney?? Please. He shot a friend in the face.He shot all of us in the ass.


Brantford
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:49 pm

This is a MOST interesting development! If enough people, from all points along the political spectrum, make the point that prosecution is the best route, perhaps that is what we will get! And that would be a wonderful thing! One of the GREAT things about our times is that there's a visual of proceedings such as these “hearings” and the people recommending prosecutions are now very much”on the record.” With just a little bit of luck, we may yet see Cheney in the dock!


Harris
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:50 pm

You can count these unAmerican traitors as 'your own' all you like. I wouldn't have these sellouts. They've certainly sold *you* out by not funding 'No Child Left Behind' properly, judging by your post.


blackthought
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:51 pm

the problem with you people on the right is that you are far to often wrong. this is not about protecting the enemy, whoever that is to you, it's about protecting the constitution.


Suki
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:54 pm

You were much more kind to ontheright than I would have been.

First of all, he couldn't even spell “you're” when he's calling someone ELSE an idiot. Typical.

Secondly, these people on the Right have no interest in hearing an opinion of someone with the bona fides and the scholarly chops say that Bush's actions were nearing criminality. This country is suffering because of uneducated mopes like ontheright.


Hope
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 12:58 pm

You are the idiot and should renounce your American citizenship that allows you the freedom of democracy and go live under the umbrella of a dictator and his rule of law that you espouse to wanting and where you have no choice or say as to how you may live.


Constance
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 1:02 pm

Does this mean I was right all along? Kinda sorry to know that.


FilthyHarry
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 1:14 pm

The obvious ploy here to forgo a truth commission that would reveal actual truth by forcing the dems to go for criminal investigations and prosecutions is that repubs are relying on the fact that Obama and many dems don't want to do investigations and prosecutions because the repubs won't support them and it'll make the dems look like they are witch hunting. Repubs are essentially bluffing the dems, hoping the end result will be no truth commission AND no prosecutions.


thabo
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 1:17 pm

Thorough investigation sshould be conducted and any criminal wrong-doing should be punished.


bret
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 1:17 pm

Jeremy Rabkin was my advisor at Cornell and is a very bright guy (and a nice guy for what it is worth). I do not agree with him all that often but do agree that if any laws are broken there should be criminal prosecution. The pertinent question then is what sort of investigation is necessary to learn the facts so that any possible criminal activity might be prosecuted.

I personally oppose a “truth commission” b/c it would likely have to offer witnesses immunity and thus hinder later prosecution. I also am troubled by having an investigation after the fact of the Bush Administration as gov't officials should not act worrying about being prosecuted due to political differences of opinion. That being said, it appears likely that Bush officials broke the law in several respects, counseled Bush that he was above the law and trampled upon the 4th amendment of the Constitution. If this is true and the subject of prosecution, it would hardly be the criminalization of politics.

Which brings me back to the question of who should investigate this. If the Obama Justice Dept is unwilling to do so, then maybe Congress is the only game in town.


RBS
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 1:27 pm

The Republicans want to keep the inquest in the partisan arena. Specter is complicit in much of this. They need to be able to laugh it off as partisan witchhuntery.

Keeping it in Congress means that the frame around any inquest is Republicans vs. Democrats.

Removing the inquest from the frame of Republicans vs. Democrats is what is neededm unfortunately,

The reason you have truth commissions in other countries is that governance cannot be separated from civil war combat, which prevents fact from emerging without partisan framing.

The civil war combat — Cold Civil War though it may be — continues in the United States today.

Hence the need.


amy
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 1:30 pm

While watching The McLear Hour on PBS last night, two Republicans were discussion the rift about Limbaugh and the Republican party. What I also noticed is that they both were making a testimony that the party was finally rid of the sinking boat George Bush.


Andy
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 1:35 pm

What needs to happen is for Cheney, Bush, Rice, Rumsfeld, Powell, Feith, Wolfowitz and others who conspired to commit crimes against humanity and wage aggressive warfare be tried, sentenced to death and actually executed promptly.

The Nuremberg and Asia tribunals of 1946 set crystal clear precedent on all relevant matters. Based on the public statements of these war criminals, they are guilty.

Professor Rabkin is correct – we should not destroy the rule of law by letting might make right and just telling mass murderers they were naughty and letting them off because they won an election.


Nate
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 1:36 pm

Forget about it….Truth and Reconciliation Commission is weak, Leahy why not a WAR CRIMES TRIBUNAL,
A TREASON TRIBUNAL INQUIRY,with the full weight of the Justice Department? Back in the 1950's their was a trial against Prescott Bush, Dulles etc…But those Nazi's Love pardners were aloud to walk scott free.

Time for the so called lawmakers get real with Justice in this Banana Republic and put these clowns in Jail or deliver the firing squad. If a common law crook can be put to death or arrested for stealing a snickers bar than
so can Bush and his many minions of deception.

The World is watching the USA ……….


Pat
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 1:36 pm

I would like to see the Justice department handle this matter exclusively. Naming a special prosecutor to investigate aspects of the Bush administration's actions would hopefully keep the partisan rancor to a minimum (?) and let congress get on with the busines of whatever it is they do.


Andy
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 1:39 pm

It's not treason (Big Bush, North and Pondexter committed that by giving hundreds of tons of high tech munitions to Iran, along with a birthday cake for the Ayatollah). it's war crimes and crimes against humanity.

The proper venue for trial is a military commission, the proper precedents are those of the Nuremberg and Asia trials of 1946, and the proper result is Cheney and all his henchmen hanging from gallows on the Capitol mall.


Andy
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 1:41 pm

The problem with the people on the right isn't how often they are wrong.

It is the failure of the people on the left to impose justice on them when they take wrongful action.

Hang a dozen or so of Cheney's war crimes co-conspirators and the right will scrupulously follow the law for decades to come! The right actually got the law and order bit correct – we need some law and order to prevent more Republican war crimes.


Warren Patterson
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 1:50 pm

You are the idiot, that is why your Hitler type party is out in the wilderness. You are the ass backward one, and obviously to stupid to realize it. So go back to listening to that drug addict, Rush Limpballs, he's got all the answers!


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beck
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 2:11 pm

WHY didn't any of the GOPers,speak out against Bush when he was in office.
They all stood by and watched him sink this economy.
NOW that America is having to fight off a depression,they only offer up tax cuts.


Marc Hoenig
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 2:13 pm

Arlen Specter, et al are shocked, shocked! that such abuses occurred. I say prosecute him and his Republican and Democratic colleagues who colluded in the greatest constitutional crimes and criminal activities this country has ever seen.


BEN
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 2:15 pm

What good is a tax cut,if you don't have a job?
Don't they get it that,people are sick of the greedy rich, who rape this country's resources?


raquel
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 2:21 pm

He's shocked because they (GOP) LOOKED THE OTHER WAY,or pretended it wasn't happening.


liberty68
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 2:26 pm

It's only right that we go after those who believed they could make a mockery of our constitution and trample our Bill of Rights which the Founding Fathers added to insure there was no ambiguities when it came to preventing a monarch from ceasing power since having fled it in Europe. Not to prosecute will set the stage for this 'Pinochet' type coup, complete with the phony 2000 elections whereby the Supreme Court decided Bush would be our monarch, to ever happen again. The Karl Rove's , Cheney's, and other republican's proteges will resurrect themselves in 30 years just as Rumsfeld and Cheney returned from out of the Nixon administration. Today's ten year olds will be participating 40 year olds and have no recollection of what happened under Bush/Cheney and how we almost lost our constitutional rights. We have to make this a large public issue and burn it into the nation's concience. How else can our democracy survive?
Homicide? Allowing the military to break into one's home? Preemptively, based on lies, killing hundreds of thousands of people and displacing millions more? How can we not prosecute those involved in order to teach the next generation what they have to protect themselves against?


Wondering
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 2:27 pm

This sounds alot like the same excuses not to have needed regulation of hedge funds: “David Rivkin, a former Justice Department official in the Reagan and first Bush administrations and now a partner at the law firm Baker & Hostetler, said a truth commission “is a profoundly bad idea, a dangerous idea, both for policy and for me as a lawyer for legal and constitutional reasons.”

The argument American citizens hear: “If you have nothing to hide, you should not object to the FISA violations.” Same goes for legal counsel. Or is there a double standard. . . again? It says alot when a lawyer suggests the finding of “truth” is a “dangerous idea”. What, then, does he view judicial fact finding or grand jury inquiries: A threat to the rule of law?!?

Are we a nation of laws or not; and do we plan to show the word that we intend to be responsible. Rivkin has provided nothing to support his assertion that a truth commission is a “bad” idea. Indeed, Baker & Hostetler is alleged to be indirectly associated with the FISA violations and telecom abuses.

Is the real goal here to thwart oversight of how the DOJ OLC memos were used to transfer illegally captured information through the telecoms; and how the private contractors supported the use of that information for the subsequent alleged war crimes and abuses against American citizens. We need to understand whether the “FISA violations” or the “Pow abuses” are two different sides of the same coin of tyranny.


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Token12ga
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 2:34 pm

Sadly they don't get it, and they never will.


kitkat
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 2:43 pm

I think that a War Crimes Tribunal would be appropriate. Let the Hague sort through this mess, and take it out of the reach of Republicans and Democrats, who need to concentrate on dealing with the aftermath of the Bush administration and the devastation he and his cronies have left in their wake. Let the word go out that these folks need to be held accountable to the World for ignoring the International Rule of Law, for the crimes they have committed against humanity, and for thumbing their noses at the Geneva Convention.


Ken Collins
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 2:58 pm

There Has To Be A closing For The Bush Atrocities !! I Just Do Not Believe There Is Enough Brave Souls To Achieve The Mark !!!


Teresa
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 2:58 pm

We need a special prosecutor, not some dumb commisssion which will white-wash everything that happened. Commission's LIE. Appoint a special prosecutor.


Greg Diablo
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 3:10 pm

He's only saying a truth commission is a bad idea as opposed to public prosecutions. In most truth commissions, the alleged lawbreakers bargain for immunity before testifying.


Darius
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 3:24 pm

Once the chips have fallen, it feels a little late. But I'd rather late than never. I can probably explain the former much more easily to my children. We need to clean house if we're going to claim we believe in pursuing an ideal sense of justice, even if it is impossible in the end.


Dick Hertz
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 3:29 pm

Republicans sure hate it when you expose the truth about them. Spectre is one of the Warren Commission lackeys who helped hide the fact that the Cuban mafia, trained by the CIA for Bay of Pigs and Castro assassination missions, used their free government job training to kill the president and his brother. The GOP is and has been about treason and terror for more than fifty years. Mere theft and fraud are nothing to them.


grf67
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 9:17 pm

If the republicans do not get the illegal actions of the bush administration resolved, they will remain minor players in US politics.


LYNDA
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 4:57 pm

REPUBLICANS WILL HOLD THAT AGAINST OBAMA AND OTHERS AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE FOR IT BEFORE THEY WERE AGAINST IT TYP THING….
IF PROSECUTIONS ARE MADE.,THIS WILL RALLY MORE REPUBLICAN SUPPORT OUT OF THE WOODWORK WHERE THEY BELONG, WHEREBY A COMMISSION IS NEUTRAL AND EXPOSES THE TRUTH THAT WOULD EXIST IN PERPETUITY TO THE BUSH NAME AND REPUBLICAN FRANCHISE WHERE OBAMA WOULD BE RAISED OUT OF THE ASHES BY DOING THE LEAST HE COULD DO BY EXPOSING THE CRIMINAL ACTS AGAINST JUSTICE. THIS RAISES OBAMA AND DEMS WITHOUT INCRIMINATING THEM…BUT, THEY WILL DO WHAT THEY DO…I DO NOT LIKE THE NAME “TRUTH COMMISSION” HOWEVER. TRUTH IS SUBJECTIVE. AND LIKE THE WAR ON TERROR, IT MAKES AN ADJECTIVE A VERB. IT SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BUT IT MAY BE THAT ACTUALLY PROSECUTING MAY COME BACK AND BITE DEMS AND OTHERS IN THE BUTT….THEN TOO IT MAY LOOK LIKE VINDICTIVNESS BY DEMS AGAINST REPUBS. BUT IT IS INDEED A RESPONSIBILITY FOR US TO LOOK INTO THE MATTER, PUNISH IF WE WILL? I THINK THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY IS WATCHING AND WE MAY HAVE TO PROSECUTE DUE TO INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS. LL, FLORIDA


DaneHughes
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 5:45 pm

The main pillar of the American view of Justice is that no person is above the Law. We are a nation of Laws and not of men has been our unyielding belief. That is until the Bush Administration sought to make us a nation under the reign of a dictator who was seen to be above the Law. Remember the Bush quote “Dictatorship is fine so long as I get to be the Dictator”.

The release of the “Legal opinions” written by the Bush Justice Department to form the basis for the utter destruction of our Constitutional basis of government is the spur that we needed to increase the pressure on the Obama Administration for the appointment of a Special Prosecutor with subpoena powers and a crack legal team.

Up to this point Obama's administration has a very poor record, supporting and adopting much of the vile policies of their predecessor. Please note the use of the State Secrets Act to deny access to the Courts for Judicial review of the government’s actions, the continuation of the use of illegal spying on Americans under the FISA renewal that Barak voted for, the lack of any clear statement that all detainees have the right of Habius Corpus under the American system of Justice.

The Congress can pass a resolution and a budget for the Special Prosecutor and set a time Limit of say 24 months to complete the work with a full and public report of all findings both exculpatory and incriminating. If there is sufficient evidence to proceed then let the trials begin. There is no better disinfectant that the harsh light of day for crooked politicians and those who aided and abetted them.


matt
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 6:40 pm

The President only makes one oath when accepting the job

“TO PROTECT AND UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION.”

Congress must limit closed door deals.


Carol Scoville
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 7:25 pm

I want to see every stone unturned to find out how every member of the Bush administration might have broken the law and every situation in which they did so!!!!!!!!


treetracker
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 9:57 pm

I fear the GOP is pushing that strategy because they believe the Justice Department will not pursue it. There has to be enough information produced by the Committee that this whole thing cannot be swept under the rug.

This is one of the few things I vehemently disagree with the new administration on. If crimes were committed, there must be consequences. We really cannot “move forward” without making a determination of whether laws were broken (and enough has come out already that makes one very suspicious that that is the case). We are a nation of laws. We need to act like it. Regardless of the partisanship division it will cause.


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Richard
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 10:33 pm

Rather than setting up a truth commission, the government should call a grand jury.


Robert
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 11:06 pm

Would a truth commission have any legal power? If it was to find the Bush administration guilty of criminal misconduct, what would the consequences be? Shame? A public clucking of the tongue and shaking of the head? I'm surprised to find myself agreeing with Rivkin and Rabkin. The proper course of action is to PUT THEM ON TRIAL.
Political figures need to remember that We the People are their bosses. They serve us, not vice versa. And hopefully We the People will not be so apathetic as to fail to hold them accountable when they break the law. No one is above the law, and everyone is answerable when they break the law. There must be REAL consequences.


American Muse
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 11:12 pm

War Crimes trials are in order. George Bush and his collaborators must be tried for waging aggressive wars, based on lies, that have resulted in over a million innocent civilians being killed. Remember, an arrest warrant was recently issued by the UN for Mr. Bashir, the sitting president of Sudan, for war crimes far less odious.


george
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 4:29 am

Lies lies more lies.Notice not one poster has talked about the 911 attacks commision report? I'm telling you right now–911 attacks were not done by Arabs.Inside job and the commision was a joke.If their will be an investigation–Jack@ss Fitzpatrick will be the chosen one. Your wasting your time—nothing will come out of it.The 911 attacks were covered -up by the zionist media–and they will do it again–you watch,you suckers :^(


Harris
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 5:19 am

To me, any move to suspend the Constitution is exactly treason. As for Iran/Contra, add Reagan to the list of suspects and illegally funding a war without Congressional approval to the list of crimes and I'm in full agreement.


Harris
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 5:34 am

Hardly 'less odious', but bringing it up is a fair point.


Bob D
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 11:30 am

You folks are real adept at pointing fingers at the politicians. You seem to forget Bush's 70-90% approval rating during the Iraq massacre. Thats why I know he'll never be brought to justice and his cronies will get a wrist slapping at best. He was just carrying water for the Zionist States of America. So is Obama. That's how they got elected.


Tom
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 1:30 pm

The 70-90%approval ratings by the American public was based on deceptions. Had the American public known the truth, they might not have approved. Anyway its no reason not to prosecute the thugs in theprevious administration.


alberta treadway
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 4:20 pm

It seems to me that if we can investigate ex-president Bill Clinton for haveing sex in the white house, we certainly should investigate the Bush administration(all) for inlegal torture, war crimes, inlegal wire taping an etc. now wouldn't ya think?


jerry
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 4:30 pm

does anyone rcall the incident about 6 or 9 mos. into the Bush administration a news release regrding daddy bush had to call the king abdulla 2 times to calm him down as a result of w's actions. this was prior to 9/11 and is there a coralation between that situation and 9/11


Pertti Lindroos
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 8:03 pm

If the US does not try Bushco. for war crimes my contention that all Americans are evil will be vindicated.


madisonhack
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 3:19 am

I say, have a proper investigation by the Justice Department or a special prosecutor if that is appropriate, and then let the chips fall as they may. We have NO moral high ground in the world's eyes at the moment.


Ben
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 5:44 am

That's not a fair assessment. The Republicans were saying that we have a mechanism to deal with these issues, not recommending prosecution.


Jennifer E Elliott
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 6:57 am

Lets say Americna that protetsed as The Secret Documents stated the forms of abuse The Bush Adminstration wrote themselves warmaking powers on United States Citzens– What you are are a Private Citzens that had these policies used on your life- You and an Amicus Curiea lawyer can prove- Torture of a United States Citzens and Law Enforcement played a role– Seeing the Secrets Documents are OUT_ and It proves My side right- Sprint PSC gave the detailed phone records for the agent did try to murder me but enjoy torture and comittied the worse sexually violent crime- and all was under extreme duress and used the BYBEE- the agent was experiementing on my life- The phone records came– as I am not my God Given height the violence was worse than gitmo in a blacksite– for I protested war through poetry– where does this leave me and the New DOJ and Senate Judicary Panel– by the way I am pettit and weight only 110lbs– than american agent ruined my central nervous system– and it all that for his entertainment- TRUTH- can't lie about the injuries( this people are the worse histroy and policies with ego and arrigance made) extortion– my father just died as well left a death policy for kidney cancer those scumbag agent went on a shopping spree while holding me and torture me– That is Bush ERA truth to power– and I am gld no agents recieved immunity– see why they wanted immunity form the Senate–Who else died? My anger and will to fightback kept me alive– the more I have read they sanctioned themselve to be EVIL the more fuel for the fire to have Prosecutions


Bob D
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 8:33 am

Sorry, Tom that wont wash. We knew the truth. If you listened to international news or even our news other than Hannity and O'Reilly you couldn't have missed it. The “thugs” did not do even a good job of hiding it. Were YOU really taken in?


Bob D
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 8:36 am

We all know how that turned out .. why. . uh.. Clinton is repentant and financially destitute over purjuring himself…. along with his whole family….. It reminds me of a Charles Dickins novel…

Get real.


Bob D
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 8:37 am

Right on!


Bob D
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 8:46 am

Americans knew the truth about Iraq having no nuclear weapons, they were told enough times by the people who were there. Does the name Scott Ritter mean anything to you folks? They were no more deceived than the police inspector in Casablanca. You are all Shocked .. SHOCKED .. that there were no weapons of mass destruction! Bull****. Now who is being deceptive? Americans just didn't care.


June Jamison
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 3:26 pm

There were a lot more reasons for attacking Saddam Hussein than his secret weapons (which everyone in the UN the US Newspapers and Congress) but were NEVER the primary purpose for taking him out; Look what he did to our Ally to the south attacking and attempting a takeover. The threat he was to all OUR OIL INTERESTs The Marxists who are taking over our Universities and Congress are experts at diversion. Bush did a fabulous job finishing off Hussein, and rapidly. Another diversion by the left who couldn't afford to compliment Bush. Iran and Syria moved in after Saddam was taken care of.


Bob D
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 1:08 pm

Marxists may have taken over the universities ( in the graduate school sciences they are ALL foreign) and our domestic spending but the neocons have taken over our foreign policy and they are alot more profligate and deadly. There was no American national interest in taking Sadam out. The oil arguement is a red herring which idiots like June introduce like flashcards to get an emotional response. Notice she doesn't say how Sadam threatened our oil interests(is it our oil now?). The christian religious zealots/Zionists, the crooks, and the warmongers are the only ones who this makes sense to. And blaming the fact that Iran is now stronger on the Marxists instead of the fact that the neocons took out Sadam who was a restraint on Iran hits the high water mark on fatuous logic.


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Bob D
Comment posted March 17, 2009 @ 1:46 pm

Get your facts straight June. The story of what Saddam did to our “ally” to the south, (some 12 years earlier than Bush's preemtive war!! come on!) had nothing to do with the attack. Bush the elder's own ambassador gave Sadam the green light to attack, telling Sadam there would be no repercussions, then Bush recinded it after they attacked. The Bushes wanted to cozy up to Abe Foxman and the Zionist Lobby, Thats the main reason they attacked Iraq. Neocons like you are in desparate need of an unbias history lesson. Your leaders took propaganda generation lessons from trotsky's Marxist creatures and perfected their methods to what you see today. Go to “http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2008/02/01/GR2008020102389.html” to see where all your neocon heroes methods came from, mixing good with evil to come up with a very ugly but well disguised blend.


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Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 1:37 am

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Mikego54
Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 1:43 am

Sorry Bob, but most of us did care and our hands are still tied. We all hope for The Truth that will Set us Free.
Peace to everyone of ya'll.


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John H Kennedy
Comment posted April 9, 2009 @ 2:02 pm

Congressional Republicans could move a long way toward regaining the trust of the people if they were able to swallow their pride and “initiate” calls for prosecution of anyone in the Bush Administration that violated Federal Laws ie… US Code Title-18 Chapter-113C TORTURE

Torture is a sore subject with the public. It will never go away.

For the GOP to bring one of their own to justice would be a signal to the voters that the core of the party is willing to do the right thing to earn their trust.

You all should SIGN The PETITON to Indict Bush, Cheney and all their Torture Advocating Lawyers at:
AngryVoters DOT Org

http://ANGRYVoters.org

After you sign, forward this url to all your friends and groups.

Thanks

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John H Kennedy
Comment posted April 9, 2009 @ 9:02 pm

Congressional Republicans could move a long way toward regaining the trust of the people if they were able to swallow their pride and “initiate” calls for prosecution of anyone in the Bush Administration that violated Federal Laws ie… US Code Title-18 Chapter-113C TORTURE

Torture is a sore subject with the public. It will never go away.

For the GOP to bring one of their own to justice would be a signal to the voters that the core of the party is willing to do the right thing to earn their trust.

You all should SIGN The PETITON to Indict Bush, Cheney and all their Torture Advocating Lawyers at:
AngryVoters DOT Org

http://ANGRYVoters.org

After you sign, forward this url to all your friends and groups.

Thanks

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