F-22 Destroyed on the Tarmac!

Revisionist History + Anti-Defense Spending Crowd+ Modern Air War Ignorance + Senile Discredited Ex-Fighter Mafioso = Liberal Fantasy.

The $140M F-22 and the $80M F-35 are essential and far superior to the “chicken wire and paper mache” ideas of the Sprey/Wheeler/Riccione/Dilger/Spinney/Korb village idiots.

Such a well backed and dispassionate argument……….not.

It is past time to forget the idea of putting pilots in planes. Remote drones are the future, they can stay on station for days potentially, and take huge Gs without blacking out or killing a highly expensive to train jockoid pilot type. Goose wouldn't have hit his noggin on the cockpit cover if he was in Spankahatchie Florida in a simulated cockpit.
For ground support missions, upgrade the A-10, or even bring back the p47 thunderbolt used in Vietnam, because the Taliban and similar 4th gen forces aren't going to play Red Baron with jets, they are using rpgs and fire and forget missiles with a few possibly antique cannons and a lot of improvised bombs. Even with modern fighters the missiles do a lot of the heavy lifting. China is going to depend on missiles to attack Taiwan if that day comes.

You know nothing of real air combat. After 400 combat hours and 3 combat ops I can tell you are a rookie getting your SA from Hollywood, comic books and Popular Mechanics. We tried drones in real air combat against a 3rd gen MiG-25 and we lost. Nuff said. BTW–you live in a fantasy world. The human brain in a 360 deg fighter cockpit is still the world's best supercomputer/super sensor at the controls of a 9G fighter jet. Its not just about G's. Combine 8 a/a weapons with real stealth, unparalleled maneuverability, and hi mach/hi altitude and the F-22 can down any target the old Sprey/Wheeler/Riccione/Dilger/Spinney/Korb geezers want to dream up.

Sprey last worked in the pentagon when the F-16 was on the drawing board – 30+ years ago. He has absolutely no idea what he's talking about, since he missed out on the stealth revolution, the avionics revolution and AESA radar revolution.

Clueless journalists like Ackerman trumpet what he says because they don't know any better – or worse – choose not to.

-mark

Revisionist History + Anti-Defense Spending Crowd+ Modern Air War Ignorance + Senile Discredited Ex-Fighter Mafioso = Liberal Fantasy.

The $140M F-22 and the $80M F-35 are essential and far superior to the “chicken wire and paper mache” ideas of the Sprey/Wheeler/Riccione/Dilger/Spinney/Korb village idiots.

Such a well backed and dispassionate argument……….not.

It is past time to forget the idea of putting pilots in planes. Remote drones are the future, they can stay on station for days potentially, and take huge Gs without blacking out or killing a highly expensive to train jockoid pilot type. Goose wouldn't have hit his noggin on the cockpit cover if he was in Spankahatchie Florida in a simulated cockpit.
For ground support missions, upgrade the A-10, or even bring back the p47 thunderbolt used in Vietnam, because the Taliban and similar 4th gen forces aren't going to play Red Baron with jets, they are using rpgs and fire and forget missiles with a few possibly antique cannons and a lot of improvised bombs. Even with modern fighters the missiles do a lot of the heavy lifting. China is going to depend on missiles to attack Taiwan if that day comes.

You know nothing of real air combat. After 400 combat hours and 3 combat ops I can tell you are a rookie getting your SA from Hollywood, comic books and Popular Mechanics. We tried drones in real air combat against a 3rd gen MiG-25 and we lost. Nuff said. BTW–you live in a fantasy world. The human brain in a 360 deg fighter cockpit is still the world's best supercomputer/super sensor at the controls of a 9G fighter jet. Its not just about G's. Combine 8 a/a weapons with real stealth, unparalleled maneuverability, and hi mach/hi altitude and the F-22 can down any target the old Sprey/Wheeler/Riccione/Dilger/Spinney/Korb geezers want to dream up.

Sprey last worked in the pentagon when the F-16 was on the drawing board – 30+ years ago. He has absolutely no idea what he's talking about, since he missed out on the stealth revolution, the avionics revolution and AESA radar revolution.

Clueless journalists like Ackerman trumpet what he says because they don't know any better – or worse – choose not to.

-mark