Scenes from the New American Tea Party

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Friday, February 27, 2009 at 2:22 pm

Some photos from the just-completed anti-stimulus New American Tea Party, outside of the White House (after the jump):

The best sign I saw.

Right before the march from one point of Lafayette Park to another.

She voted for Sen. John McCain, too, but is less proud of that.

This was right before we were told balloons were verboten.

Lots of support for creative destruction.

Joe the Plumber!

The crowd was a mix of guys taking their K St lunch breaks (right) and guys taking much longer breaks.

They were forced by law to pay someone else’s mortgage.

Michelle Malkin!

Inevitably.

Her neighbor bought a big house, but all she got were his lousy payments.

He recycled this sign from an “anti-global warming hysteria” protest.

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Double D
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 12:25 pm

Uh, Michele, there's about 500 people there and you naturally send people diving for the remote to turn the volume down whenever your head pops up on their TV.

No need for the megaphone, hun.


Joe Isuzu
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 12:53 pm

Looks like the Ron Paul nuts have joined up with Michell Malkin.

Let the madness commence!


Janice Moon
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 1:46 pm

I AM MAD AS HELL AND WILL NOT TAKE THIS ANYMORE


jasperjava
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 2:45 pm

500? Looks more like 50.


c ampie
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 3:11 pm

WE ARE SICK OF THE VICTIM ATTITUDE!


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eas
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 3:19 pm

LIVE FREE OR DIE!!!! TAX REVOLT NOW!!!! SEND ALL THE BUMS IN CONGRESS PACKING!!!!!


24AheadDotCom
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 3:51 pm

1. Back in 2002, I was the first person to go to an anti-war protest and come back with pictures. I stopped doing that about a year later because the whole “go take some pictures of wacky signs” bit got monotonous. Maybe in another decade Weigel will be doing the things I'm doing now.

2. If Weigel's bosses really want to quash this movement, maybe he could find some newsletters or something (reference to the Ron Paul NewsletterGate issue that Weigel pushed: reason.com/blog/show/130943.html)

3. Because Pajamas Media doesn't have clear goals, they're attracting the “taxation is theft” crowd as well as those whose signs will no doubt appear “mean-spirited” or selfish to many. OTOH, the great majority of Americans – leftwing Dems, subsidy-supporting “libertarians”, and crooks excluded – would oppose stimulus jobs going to illegal aliens. And, pressing a stimulus bill supporter on that on video could have a major impact on their career. Yet, Pajamas Media has consistently shown no interest in holding politicians accountable on video, but instead puts on largely worthless shows like this.


unclear of the meaning
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 4:50 pm

I'm a liberal dem, so they can tea bag me until I shoot my skeet.


Shooter242
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 5:25 pm

I didn't attend, and after seeing these signs I'm glad I didn't. If I'm correct “teabagging” is NOT an act conservatives want to be associated with. Gold! Could you be more of a scrooge caricature?
Well actually, yes. “It's not my problem” is accurate but cold. Freezing.
Add in exaggeration(lying) by Jindal, Greggs, and possible impropriety by Coleman? And bless little Bachmann's heart…. “You be the man” is just wrong.

Friends, this is not good. For all their accuracy, and good intentions, all the activity lately has been bloody awful. Let me propose that Tucker Carlson has a point. This would be a very good time to relax, sit back, and let the Democrats do their thing. And while that thing is going on, see if our objections to it match our claims.

We have an agenda of “no”. Fine, but telling people “no” because they are losers, is no way to win friends and influence people. If we conservatives really believe that our ideas are better, we can politely say “we disagree and here's why.” If we conservatives really believe our ideas are better, then letting the Democrats try their best will only make our case. Better yet, something they do might actually work. If we conservatives really believe our ideas are better, let's be more pure than Ceasar's wife.

The real truth here is that ever since Clinton raised rates, Democrats have equated it to prosperity as demonstrated by the .com boom. That conveniently ignores problems after the hikes, and the whopping cut in capital gains in 1997. Letting stuff like this go without challenge is anathema. We can't do anything about the Dem legacy that has begun. I say we walk softly and carry a big note book to catalog progress(or lack). How about comparing inclusive marginal income tax rates over 50% as indentured servitude. Is it fair that other people get more of your salary than you do? Of course not.

So I'm into class warfare and taxing. Other issues can do the same thing by using lib language to frame objections. In any event, things have to get much worse for people to abandon the idea that Big Brother can provide. Let's use the time wisely.


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Eric
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 6:12 pm

Yeah, David, you should really take down the “tea bag the liberal dems”. Posting photographs of inappropriate signs is not helpful. I was there, and that sign was embarrassing. I think it is fine for conservatives to have demonstrations like this, but we need to show some class. That sign was classless, and the organizer of the event should have told the person with the sign to put it away. This is a sign of inexperience in holding these sorts of events.

I also found the “POOP” stickers to be classless and juvenile. If you want to attract people to a movement for liberty, that's not the way to do it.

And then there was the part where J. P. Freire, after he ran out of things to say himself (after about 2 minutes) walks through the crowd to let anyone with a pulse go on a little rant.

I don't mean to nit-pick on people who are making an effort to bring attention to the problem, and I know this was put on with short notice, but a little more thought needs to go into these things if the right message is going to be sent.

For JasperJava: I was there and there were definitely several hundred people there.


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Al Reasin
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 7:25 pm

I was there waving the navy ensign on the fringes of the crowd. As usual there were some who were on the extreme edge of a civil demonstration. Nothing unusual there. Did any of you see the SWAT supervisor there and question why SWAT. Police in case some extreme ones from the Left showed up is one thing, but SWAT. The officer said it was SOP.

There is a lot of pent-up anger out there, our national and state leadership is ignoring the people who actually financially support government. They are playing to the 50% who don't pay taxes and could care less if the country goes into extreem debit as long as they get their goodies; so they reelect the goody providers. Look at corrupt Rep. Murtha and Rep Frank being reelected. I could name dozens as well as Senators. Want be bet whether Dodd will be reelected.

We don't need a Ruby Ridge sparking another Shays' Rebellion; that was the final straw that finished off the Articles of Confederation.


Lawnguylander
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 7:28 pm

Yes, it must suck so why don't you drop it?


Bronco Bill
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 7:28 pm

I find this all very encouraging. It is time for all Americans to stand up and express their outrage over what Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the rest of the liberal dunderheads are trying to do to our country. Those conservatives who think we need to be “polite” about what is happening to us, are the very ones who let the Obamacrats take over our country. We need to stop making nice and express our anger. We need to let our government representatives know we are going to kick their ass out if this spending boodoggle continues. We are the greatest country the world has ever known and we didn't get that way by cowtowing to Marxist Socialists. Obama fooled a lot of people with his B.S. and hopefully now they will wake up and realize the fox is in the hen house. No one seems to realize that the downward spiral began when Democrats started coercing banks and other institutions into lending money to home buyers who couldn't afford to pay it back. In spite of President Bush, John McCain, and other Republicans calling for congress to rein in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack………….Barney Frank and cohorts just let the home mortgage market go down the tubes. All the while assuring us everything was okay. Barney Frank should be run out of Washington D.C. on a rail, with Nancy Pelosi right behind him.


MyOpinion
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 7:58 pm

Thank you Bill, your tirade helps Obama's image as cool and smart politician.

In other words you've (and the “tea party”) unwittingly helped make Obama looks BETTER.


MyOpinion
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 8:06 pm

You said: “They are playing to the 50% who don't pay taxes and could care less if the country goes into extreem (Sic)debit as long as they get their goodies; so they reelect the goody providers.”

What part of the “50% who don't pay taxes” would this man be?

“For people like Henry Kight, 59, of Austin, Tex., the possibility that the money might be turned down is a deeply personal issue.

Mr. Kight, who worked for more than three decades as an engineering technician, discovered in September that because of complex state rules, he was not eligible for unemployment insurance after losing a job at a major electronics manufacturer he had landed at the beginning of the year.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/27/us/27govs.htm…


Dr. Trent
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 8:07 pm

As a small business owner, I challenge other business owners to do the same.
If this Bill passes, I will only hire conservative Republicans in my small business.
I don’t have to hire a liberal! Before you hire check the voting registration of your employee!
If they want to spend our money for pork, then I can cut the fat and hire only lean conservatives
that have fallen on hard times.


greg
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 8:10 pm

This is great! A bunch of douchebags taking their lead from king douchebag Santelli. The guy who thinks white, male, derivatives traders represent a cross-section of America. Ha! He wasn't so pissed about govt. bailouts when it went to wall street now was he?


greg
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 8:13 pm

Maybe 20? Tops!


Dr. Trent
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 8:20 pm

We need to have a “National Tea Party” on July Fourth at the state capital buildings across this country.


Dr. Trent
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 8:23 pm

When my idea catches on…and you can't find a job, I'll be there to say HA! Ha! LOLOL


Porkulus Dickus
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 8:43 pm

Your commitment to employing the retarded is commendable, Doctor Trent. For the sake of your customers, I hope you're not a real doctor. I'd be very surprised if you were.


Some guy on the Internet
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 9:24 pm

That, of course, is illegal. When the EEOE says you can't discriminate based on “race, creed, or national origin,” the “creed” means political affiliation. OH NO Big government just stepped into your crappy little business and emasculated you. You now sit down to pee.


southdakotaboy
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 10:32 pm

While it is illegal to base your hiring by directly asking a person's party affiliation it is still possible with a little bit of work. All you have to do is get in contact with your local Republican party. With the internet it is much easier to net work with fellow conservatives to establish a hiring pool. Also contact your local collage Republicans and ask them if they know any body who would fit your requirements. As long as you are not openly advertising for a position you can define the parameters of your hiring pool. Encourage the Collage Republicans to create a employee listing web site. Next contact your fellow business friends and encourage them to hire from this site.
Also don't be afraid to hire someone who is not a perfect fit for the job. It is more important to hire a Republican then a Democrat as long as they are close to what you need.
Also pay in cash as much as possible. The Government can't tax what they can't find.


Jim Treacher
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 10:35 pm

I don't see any pictures of Obama burning in effigy. Nor a single paper-mâché head. Apparently conservatives aren't willing to commit to the whole concept of protesting.


Mooser
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 11:36 pm

Who needs Joe the Plumber when you've got Shooter242? Or should I say SHOOTER2012 !!!
He's the only one here who is aware of the nasty meaning of “to teabag”. That makes him the most aware person in the entire Republican Party! I mean, why didn't you guys ask the Log Cabin gents about this. Well, it's too late now. But it's not too late to put SHOOTER2012 on the ticket!! Vote for a guy who knows all about teabagging! It shouldn't be too much of a problem to get his record sealed, but that's the price you pay to get a vconservative who will help you avoid any more faux Pa's like that “teabagging” sign. What a crew, what a crew.


Mooser
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 11:37 pm

And BTW, a national teabagging party on July 4th? Count me in! If there is one thing Republicans excel at, it's teabagging!


Mooser
Comment posted February 27, 2009 @ 11:41 pm

And you folks should be proud of yourselves! Those teabag signs will go down in history. Oh crap, did I use “teabag” and “will go down” in the same sentence? Doesn't matter, those signs are still hysterical!


john
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 6:17 am

Hmmmm…who are the Stalinists again? The teabaggers? or the Obamunists? Is it really American to discriminate based on political creed?


betsy
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 6:24 am

What was it Hillary Clinton said? “The greatest form of patriotism is protesting” May we all speak out for America.


August J. Pollak
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 6:39 am

I don't see any pictures of Obama burning in effigy. Nor a single paper-mâché head.

That tends to only happen at protests slightly larger than two dozen people.


Lawrence Lawson
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 6:40 am

I'm with you on this 100%.I am going to make this a mission in my work place,it should't be much of problem,because most liberals are looking for a hand out not a job.


brendancalling
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 7:33 am

this is HILARIOUS.

I guess clown college had spring break early this year. You'd figure they'd b e smart enough to head to daytona or ft. lauderdale, but I guess being brain-dead conservative ding-a-lings, they figured swampy ol' DC was the place to party. morons (or should I say “morans”).


BG
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 7:37 am

Enjoy fixing your roads and bridges yourself, pal. And I guess if you lose your job, you don't care if you don't get unemployment insurance. Oh, and home schooling apparently worked out just fine for you, so it's okay for your kids, too, I suppose …. so we might as well shut down all the public schools. And I'm sure looking forward to hiring my own personal policeman, fireman, garbageman and paying for them out of my own pocket.

You folks need to grow up.


R. Cuellar
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 7:38 am

“Taxation WITH representation aint so hot either.”

I think this incredible statement pretty much says it all.
The conservative movement does not believe in our system of government.


wial
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 7:45 am

“Ron Paul nuts” “Michell Malkin” and “teabag” in one context is just too much for me this morning. Though it's making me kind of hot, in a way.


rootless-e
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:05 am

i hope you are in my field so I can take over your customers when your chucklehead employees run the business into the ground.


wial
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:05 am

don't you mean “LICK FREE”? And what's this about bums? Isn't that more a teabag and sandwich, rather than just a teabag?


wial
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:11 am

And I daren't even contemplate, following this reading of your unfortunate phraseology, what you mean about “PACKING”. You conservatives are a curious lot is all I can say.


MIKE MCLAUGHLIN
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:18 am

LOOKS TO ME THAT THE DONKEYS ARE GOING TO LET OUR COUNTRY GO DOWN THE TOILET THEY HAVE SPENT 36 MIL SINCE THEY TOOK OVER. NOT TO MENTION THE 2 YEARS BEFORE THIS WHEN THEY WERE THE MAJORITY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A TEA PARTY AND YOU WILL SE HOW A REAL AMERICANS ROLL


JosephD
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:31 am

Conservatives have the same fear Thomas Jefferson had, a gullible mass of voters. Jefferson warned that even the most perfect political system can fail when the leaders are not honorable and the voters are unelightened. The mass majority of voters in Germany voted for Hitler. Check out Hugo Chavez. The dread I have is the dumbing down of the Ameerican voter and therosions of the fierce idependent American spirit. Obama is a chalatan nothing less.


JosephD
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:42 am

You must be one of those gullible voters Thomas Jefferson was so worried about. Inane diatribes like yours seem to be the ultra liberals replacement for independent and reflective thought.


Karin
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:48 am

Another zombie lie rises from the grave. Hitler never won a majority of voters in any election. He became Chancellor of Germany in a backroom deal. Do yourself a favor and learn some history before you spout off.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitlerdemo.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_presidentia…


Babby
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:53 am

Yes therosions of the fierce idependent American spirit is at stake. I am truley sorry for your lots.


gil mann
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:55 am

The sort of reflective thought that leads to making protest signs about teabagging, natch.


T. Party
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:59 am

Good point. Those ultra liberals really aren't very bright when you get down to it. Thank goodness Palin, Plumber, Santelli and Jindal are on our side. Marsh mice! Volcano monitoring! Heh. Heh heh. Heh.

Win.


jvill
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:09 am

Right, and that's why we need to cut educational funding…

Wait…


jvill
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:10 am

I'm pretty sure, by definition, a diatribe needs to be more than 2 sentences.

I'm pretty sure you're one of the gullible voters you are worried about…


jvill
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:13 am

How is it you guys are all freaked out about socialism, Facism, Naziism, and every other ism, but are perfectly OK with not offering people jobs based upon spying on their voting habits? As if that's not stupendously creepy…?

How do you hold all that cognitive dissonance in your head?


jvill
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:15 am

Keeping believing your own fantasies, keep up the silly gimmicks, and the Dems will keep winning elections.

Fine by us…


Singularity
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:16 am

Personally, I would stay away from the Collage Republicans and only hire the Papier-Mache Republicans.

And that advice about paying in cash? Brilliant. I hear the government has no experience at all in tracking down off-the-books transactions. Probably better if you don't hire any Democrats. It would be sad to see any of us go to jail with you.


jvill
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:18 am

Yeah, especially since, after running the government (into the ground) for 8 years, the rest of us are all tired of listening to it.

How about you guys actually propose some ideas to fix some of our problems instead of all the incessant whining?


jvill
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:18 am

This is so delightfully incoherent, I can only assume you're the next Joe the Plumber/Reporter/Hanger-on.


Singularity
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:21 am

Honestly, most of the Republicans with whom I've worked have been really nice people (and disproportionately accountants), but the few raging Conservatives with whom I've worked have mostly been unbearable. Frankly, you'd be doing Dems a favor by not hiring us.

But please have the courage of your convictions and be sure to refuse to perform any services for us or sell any goods to us as well. I'd hate to think that you are a cowardly hypocrite willing to take the dirty government money after it has been laundered through liberal hands.


kth
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:33 am

actually the “all I got were his lousy payments” sign was halfway funny. Given that most wingnuts are terminally unfunny, a pretty heroic effort.


anonymous
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:33 am

It was probably a much larger turnout than they are saying, too. They never give the middle class the attention because they are afraid of it catching on TOO much.


Singularity
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:35 am

A couple of points:

Do you seriously believe that Republicans have been civil or polite at any point in the past twenty years? You don't have any gloves to take off anymore.

Obama fooled the nation by…. fulfilling the promises he made on the campaign trail? Name one thing he has done that is surprising to you. The American people voted for Obama in a landslide specifically because he promised to do what he is now doing. Elections have consequences, and this one wasn't even close.

The current downturn in the economy is not being caused by mortgage defaults. They are a symptom, not a cause. The current crisis was enabled when Phil Gramm almost single-handedly gutted oversight of the bond market. Then in the early part of this decade, Bush's SEC relaxed regulations on the amount of debt that could be leveraged in purchases of CDOs. A few failed mortgages, or even many failed mortgages, could never do the kind of damage to the economy that we're seeing now. Stop listening to talk radio and read some economists instead.


anonymous
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:36 am

The bottom line is that we are all looking for a leader. THE leader! And, the reason we probably don't have one is because he was probably aborted.


HelenaMontana
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:43 am

This is all just really pathetic.


Wally
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:54 am

Why, there must have been literally dozens in attendance!


Mike
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:59 am

Their heroes are an unlicensed plumber and a woman whose foreign policy expertise consists of being able to see Russia from her house. Nuff said.


oh really
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 10:00 am

Tea Bags? All I see are D-Bags.


Mystic
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 10:00 am

To be fair, this liberal is looking for a hand job


tufdaawg
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 10:02 am

You know, Malkin must think, “Great, another protest to attend.” She always seems to be at these things. And, of course, about 20 people show up for these “protests”.


mdh
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 10:07 am

Tea Bag the Democrats?

Really? I mean, I like you and all… but no, thank you. q


Barney Fife
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 10:13 am

Well, since you're being so nosey, make sure those conservatives you hire have never accepted any entitlement monies of any kind. Unemployment insurance, public education, that sort of thing.

And to be fair, you should probably also exclude anyone who voted for anyone who had a hand in doubling the national debt over the last 8 years. Good luck with that.


Barney Fife
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 10:17 am

Or maybe Dr Trent can simply hire a bunch of tax cheats.


Bill
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 10:26 am

The best pic is the lady holding the “i voted for Sarah” sign.At an anti-government-spending rally.This would be the sam Gov Palin that took the money for that bridge to nowhere,then lied about it for weeks on the campaign trail.With logic like that it's no wonder she's a Republican.


Barney Fife
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 10:26 am

“Tea bag the liberal dems before they tea bag you”. In other words, “when we do it it's good, when they do it it's bad”.

The conservative orthodoxy in a nutshell.


Dale Mulder
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 10:26 am

Dumbass loser douchebags. No wonder they lost the elections.


lib4
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 11:05 am

38 days in office and the RW is already apocalyptic.

I am sure these fair minded deficit hawks were peddling the following slogans during the last administration:

My ex-President bought a Big War and all I got were his lousy payments
Forced by law to pay for someone else's tax cut


Andrew P
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 11:24 am

“50% who don't pay taxes” is utter and complete BS. Any analysis in which this even comes close to being true considers only income taxes and leaves out payroll taxes, which fall most heavily on the poor. I made less than $30,000 last year, which puts me squarely in the bottom 40%, and I paid around $2000 in federal income taxes, so I know firsthand that you're full of crap. I'm so sick of hearing this lie, but I suppose it has been repeated enough that gullible voters such as yourself accept it as truth without checking the facts. That you are up in arms against a president with a 70% approval rating over a 4 percentage point tax increase on the portion of income above $250,000 is laughable. Good luck with that. You are pathetic, and an idiot.


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Andrew P
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 11:29 am

Furthermore, note that SS and Medicare taxes, which everyone pays, make up close to 34% of govt. revenues, and those contributions are capped at a certain income, so these taxes are actually regressive in that higher income people pay a smaller percentage of their income for these taxes. So spare me the crap about the CEOs and professional athletes who are about to be oppressed by the paltry 4% increase. The top tax rate should actually go even higher, but baby steps here, since folks like yourself need to unlearn three decades of BS right wing propaganda.


Nylund
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 11:49 am

Last year there was the conservative who went into the liberal church with a shot gun and killed innocent people purely because they were liberal. There was the wing-nut in Maine who wanted to make a dirty bomb to kill liberals before his wife killed him first. Just the other day, there was the conservative in Florida who decided to walk across the street and start shooting immigrants for simply being immigrants. Remember that the right's anger towards the gov't during the Clinton years gave us the likes of Eric Rudolph (and his war against abortion and the homosexual agenda) and Timothy McVeigh (both former members of the US army, btw).

Here is a letter McVeigh wrote to a newspaper:

“Taxes are a joke. Regardless of what a political candidate “promises,” they will increase. More taxes are always the answer to government mismanagement. They mess up. We suffer. Taxes are reaching cataclysmic levels, with no slowdown in sight … Is a Civil War Imminent? Do we have to shed blood to reform the current system? I hope it doesn't come to that. But it might.”

It sounds WAY too much like the thousands what we see on thousands of conservative message boards on the internet. (cf. Sean Hannity website poll about preferred method of armed rebellion, Glenn Beck's obsession with Militia uprisings, etc.)

I do not find it surprising at all that a SWAT team was there at all.


shanedk
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 12:04 pm

Yay! We should bring back debtor's prison. If people don't pay their debts, they should go to jail! Affirmative action forced these loans, and blacks don't like paying things back. RON PAUL 2012!


KC
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 12:10 pm

The ME, ME, ME party. Best photo: Michelle Malkin talking into the back end of a bull

horn.


James
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 12:12 pm

It's amusing that Republicans want to bring back debtors prisons. That's what they have in Saudi Arabia and Dubai. It's also the reason pilgrims left Britain and started America.

You don't get much less patriotic than being a Republican these days. They refuse to pay their taxes. They hate the reasons America was started. If Republicans hate America so much, they're free to go live in Dubai. What a bunch of spoiled crybabies.


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TC
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 12:40 pm

Reminds me of teh seagulls in “Finding Nemo: — “MINE! MINE! MINE?


MusicLover
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 12:42 pm

So have you always been a racist, or did it take an African-American in the White House to bring it out of you?


ShowUsYourTwits
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 12:47 pm

The guy holding the “Humans First!” sign barely looks human.


iwillsimplify
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 12:47 pm

Conservatives come in all shapes and sizes — just like liberals. I don't want debtors prison, I want people to have consequences for bad behavior. No, it wasn't their fault they bought a house they could not afford — apparently they weren't smart enough to figure that out for themselves and were talked into it. They should not be allowed to keep a house that they STILL can't afford just because of that. There should also be consequences for the guy who talked them into it.

I was part of the Tea Party in Houston — we had about 500 in attendance, which wasn't bad considering that the whole thing was put together in a little over a week AND it was held on a Friday — you see, most Conservatives WORK on Friday.

Conservatives do pay their taxes and work hard to do it. Should I remind you of the failed Obama appointments who had “tax problems” — how many were there? I don't remember that happening in either of the Bush's or even in Clinton's administrations. Interesting group that Obama has confidence in, hm-m-m-m?

No, Republicans don't hate America. They are scared to death that the America of our founding father's is disappearing. This country became great due to capitalism and the free-market system…..and now we are all being sucked into Socialism, and possibly even Communism. Look up the defination of those two words.

I find it very interesting, that a LARGE percentage of the comments to this article are from Liberals…..and most of those comments are nothing more than name calling…..which anyone can do.


Brian
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 12:59 pm

Wow. Just wow.

Every once in a while I feel like we're making progress in this country, then I read a comment like this one. I betting Ron Paul doesn't WANT support from people like you, shanedk


Hulk Smash!
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:01 pm

I notice that these Wingnuts aren't protesting the fact that they're paying to bail out the greedy Wall Street fat cats who gave out these bad mortgages in the first place….idiots, all of them.

Leave it to blue collar Republicans to “protest” against their own well-being.


good lib
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:02 pm

Dr. Trent
You must make sure you only hire people who have never benefitted from public transportation, student loans, Pell Grants, public water and sewer systems. The successful applicant must never have driven on a road paved by federal dollars, taken medication approved by the FDA, or eaten food inspected for safety using our tax dollars.
It's only right


Barack
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:07 pm

If you think Socialism is bad, I suggest that you write your local senators and ask them to dig up all of the public roads you drive on. I would also remind you that you probably send your children to public schools. You've also probably gotten a letter via our socialized Postal Service. What if you need Police assistance? Are you going to let a thief rob your home because you hate the socialized police force so much? What if your house was on fire? Would you not call your local socialized Fire Dept?

I suggest that YOU look up the definitions of those words before you go and make more ignorant comments. You just make yourself look uninformed and irrelevant.

Oh, and if you're going to tell people that name calling is useless, you should make sure that you aren't doing the exact same thing in your post…..


Barack
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:09 pm

wow, apparently nobody else that replied to this understands sarcasm…


pub
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:20 pm

That's so tolerant of you, Party of Tolerance member.


Kathy
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:21 pm

Get a job ya dirty hippies!!!

Captain Irony


pub
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:22 pm

How old are you people commenting? Go back to computer games. You young disgusting punks are going to destroy our countries. All you've got is hatred. Go join a gang.


PadrePio
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:23 pm

Everyone who works pays their taxes regardless of political leanings. As to the free market it is idiots conservative who fro over thirty years have worshiped at the alter of free markets with no regulation that caused the mess your protesting. If there had been adequate over site of Citi and all of the rest we wouldn't be buying their toxic debt and your neighbors mortgage. Get over cleaning up the mess your beloved philosophy created. Ayn Rand is an asshat and always was. As a matter of fact ONLY THE CONSERVATIVES should have to pay off this crap, after all your the ones who loved Ronnie Regan and his free market religion.


Hulk Teabagged
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:26 pm

Hulk Smashed your brain obviously. “Greedy Wall Street Fat Cats who gave out these bad mortgages?” Try “were FORCED to because of your silly liberal, politically correct, greenlining program.” I fail to see how the above protesters are protesting against “their own well being”, but then again, I'm sure you do too.


Jim
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:29 pm

Simple here people… more government = less freedom

This is our money, and you are telling me you support this big government bailouts? Then you have the guts to call me ignorant. Wake up and smell the Tea! The failures of many in our history books has specifically been related to the over powering burden of the government, through taxes and lack of individual freedoms. It has only been growing, exponentially so here as of late.

Do some actual research!


Libs-R-Dumb
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:30 pm

Ha! Look at all the liberals trying to justify this crippling, socialist bailout. Had GWB been in office for these steps…..I say again, same conditions, but with GWB…. these prius driving, meat cigar smoking, communists would be whining up a storm that could drown out a Metallica concert.


crazysocialistgaymuslimliberal
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:32 pm

ANYONE can do name calling and you've certainly proven that with your comments. Yup, liberals take every Friday off and we never pay our taxes. Good thing we hate America so we could care less about the country's future. I can feel the suction of history pulling me into socialism or communism, now…whichever one. AAAHHHH!!!


JoeBuddha
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:33 pm

Fascinating! People stuck with oversold mortgages who made the mistake of accepting “professional” advice, people who got mortgages they could afford but lost their jobs, people who were lied to about what they were buying, who cares about these deadbeats? The whole thing is THEIR FAULT!

The real world is a shade more complicated than these right-wing loons and their “I got mine, so to h*** with you!” philosophy can accommodate. There's plenty of blame to go around, and we just don't have time to start in on it; if we don't fix it now, we won't have anything to fix. If you don't want to help, at least you can get out of the way.


Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:34 pm

Tea Bagging with the Republicans and Michelle Malkin


Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:36 pm

actually….Bush was the main guy behind the bailout madness.

You Republicans are pretty funny. The only time you like nation building is when it's another nation.


JoeBuddha
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:36 pm

Oh, and don't forget: W and his cronies handed out the first trillion or so…


Libs-R-Dumb
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:40 pm

ACTUALLY, GWB was trying to reel in the runaway financial institutes clear back in 2005 but DEM congress put a stop to him. Mostly political correctness at stake. We republicans ARE kind of funny. We insist on fairness and tend not to fall for goofy slogans like HOPE and CHANGE when neither will be offered by the candidate.


Dale
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:50 pm

“We republicans ARE kind of funny. We insist on fairness and tend not to fall for goofy slogans like HOPE and CHANGE when neither will be offered by the candidate.”

Yet you fall for crap like “Drill baby drill!”


Wingnut stupidity
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:53 pm

Pitiful. Given the overwhelming support enjoyed by Obama, his economic agenda, the Democrats and the obvious paucity of popular grassroots opposition, the only thing that remains unclear is why the media establishment gives the likes of Malkin and her few right-wing lunitic fringe extremist supporters any air time at all. But I have to admit, it's hilarious how the Republican overlords can minipulate their blue collar wage earning supporters into protesting against their own well-being.


Libs-R-Dumb
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:54 pm

Don't much see the pratfall there. Particularly when you libs insist on oil independence and know (but will never admit) that solar and wind are a pipe dream.


NOBAMA
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:56 pm

And yet liberal morons are pushing for “Fairness Doctrine” because of Obama's “overwhelming support” and the scant air time given to the likes of Malkin. Insecure much?


Fox Sux
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 1:58 pm

What…No 'tin foil' hats?


Socialism Is For F4gs
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 2:01 pm

Liberals got them all, to prevent reasoning and logic from polluting their minds.


Gin
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 2:11 pm

Are there Republicans that have not paid their taxes. I am sure that is the case for some, but why do you not want to point out the Democrats guilty of the same. Tom Daschle had not paid his taxes and this was the reason he stepped down. The person that Mr. Obama has put in charge of the Dept. of Treasury had not paid his taxes and was still allowed to be confirmed. It is time for people to realize that the people in Washington are not for you. Mr. Obama is not either. He is for his interest groups and has paid them off with the future of this country. The deceit did not start with him alone. Politicians in general have not cared about the people for a long time. There are good men I believe that go to Washington with good intentions but most become isolated from the real America after time. The problems that have led us here is a Republican party that catered to big business and ignored our borders for cheap labor and a Democratic party that ignores the border so they can gain voters. People tend to think that Democrats are the party for the poor. In reality that need to keep people down and poor in order to have power. Democrats do not want you to be able to make a decent living, be able to buy your on house or healthcare. If you can do those things then you do not need them. They want people to be dependent on the government for these things so they can stay in power and control the masses. I am talking about the powers to be in these parties. It is time for a revolution and the rise of a third party to reclaim our country.


M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 2:14 pm

Yes, with that screen name you are obviously a paragon of reasoning and logic.


M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 2:17 pm

No. Actually far-right morons are pushing the straw-man meme that liberals are pushing for “Fairness Doctrine”. Your side thrives on paranoia.


lynne K
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 2:20 pm

I want government out of my life. I don't want higher taxes. I don't want to bail out those that should not have bought a house in the first place. I don't want to bail out someone who cannot manage their credit cards. I don't want to help someone who is expecting the
government to “help” them out. I don't want to help someone who is sitting back and has no initiative to help him/her self.


NOBAMA
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 2:24 pm

Perhaps you should re-acquaint yourself with Nancy Pelosi's latest push to have the Fairness Doctrine reinstated. However, I believe as of Thursday, this liberal “whaa-fest” had been put to bed, hopefully never to rise again.


M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 2:28 pm

when did the argument become over the merits of socialism? Good or bad, what does it have to do with sexual orientation, no matter how said orientation is pejoratively stated? Politically correct? You think by saying “socialism is for homosexuals” that's better? But assuming you are just using insult buzzwords for effect, I'll assume you know what “fag” means, but do you have a clue what “socialism” is? If so, please explain how any of Obama's policies are turning us into a socialist society. And aim for correctness, not political correctness.


Azdak
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 2:43 pm

And at least 47 of the 58 Democratic Senators voted against it–so much for the “Democrats want the Fairness Doctrine” conspiracy.


Socialism Is For F4gs
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 2:49 pm

One couldn't tell which part of the screen name you found objectionable. I see now it is the F4gs portion. Do realize that “Politically Correct” isn't limited to simply words… that changing F4gs to “homosexuals” ..is all PC nazis are about. It is the relentless pursuit to be offended by any means necessary, that makes PC-thugism the ridiculous concept that it is. As for Obama's socialism, that's so easy, it's sad that you would even ask. Treating rich people with extra penalties (taxes) that others don't get, treating poor people with perks that others don't get. The whole premise of high achievers supporting under-achievers is what your socialist messiah is all about.


Bigdog
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 2:49 pm

You must be an Obama loving Democrat considering your vocabulary. Your are such a loser. “What ya' gonna do when they come for you?” Wolverines are coming so you better be prepared to defend your miserable self.


AMH
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 2:49 pm

While I understand the sentiment, here's the brutal truth – economists are using the “d” word, depression. All those “morons” who bought a big house they can't afford also bought TVs, and cars, and groceries, and otherwise spent the money that runs our entire consumer-consumption-driven economy. When they all cut back on spending, stopped paying top dollar for each others' houses and stopped buying all manner of other goods, the entire economy dropped like a stone.

Like it or not, something has to be done. In the long term, we need to re-engineer our society so that there are plenty of jobs and prosperity that doesn't depend on average people spending more than they earn every year. In the short term, before we all end up jobless and on the streets, we need these bozos to go back to buying TVs and clothes from the Gap, keeping the damned economy running. I'd love to hear some suggestion from the naysayers about what the hell we're supposed to do other than the Obama stimulus, when it's clear that the precipitous drop in consumer spending has been fueling the downward flushing cycle since around the holidays.


Rep. Voter
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 2:53 pm

Yes. BUYING is good. Buying BEYOND YOUR MEANS….very, very bad. You see the difference, yes?


Hugo
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 3:04 pm

The As are already being taking down to a C. It's called No Child Left Behind (AKA No Child Gets Ahead).


Socialism Is For F4gs
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 3:07 pm

Speaking of Brain, you aren't using yours, if you have one. Show me where I said Bush wasn't a socialist. I'm quite disappointed with him.. but not as disappointed as I am with USA for voting in pure socialism, based on pure chump slogans.


June
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 3:07 pm

Just a quick note: in 2005 both houses of Congress were controlled by the Republican party. Thought you'd like to know.


penny46
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 3:20 pm

Things are so bad, I worked hard all my live and to end up paying for people not responsible, I trust in our gov't to do what is right. We can not leave all this debt to our children. Look at the stats……


pbg
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 3:24 pm

You know what happens when you take a 'screw them, let them fail” approach?
Retail sales fall. Stores close. Manufacturers close. More people lose their jobs and become deadbeats to be sneered at. Which causes retail sales to fall more. More people lose their jobs, default on their debt, putting more banks in jeopardy.
Pretty soon you have a landscape of closed factories, shuttered banks, and a shrunken United States.
But that's good because the undeserving aren't being helped!

Think we can't become a second-class country? If the country as a whole becomes poorer, sicker, less well educated, as the underclass grows, as the poor flock to the cities, and with wretched or no housing public health gets endangered, as the rich detach themselves from the ever-more-squalid rest of the country–

–if we're lucky, we become India.

Think it can't happen?
What will stop it?


M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 3:26 pm

I don't find your screen name objectionable. And I agree with your apparent feelings about PC. I think an attempt should be made at politeness, but not at the expense of truth. Which is sometimes just plain offensive to some. But declaring that socialism is for fags (or f4gs if you prefer), doesn't lead one to hope for “reasoning and logic” from its author. So you are apparently objecting to Obama's raising the income tax levels on the wealthiest members of society. Fair enough. But that's not socialism. Or do you think America has been a socialist country for most of the 20th century? Don't mistake a progressive system of taxation for socialism, just because thay both strive for more egalitarianism in society. I'm one of those “rich people” you're referring to that will be paying more. It's not a penalty. It's a responsibility that I have as a citizen of this great country. I wouldn't be where I am if it weren't for this society so why should I begrudge paying back some of it? When did this “I got mine so screw the rest of you” attitude become the accepted norm? But am I missing something? Am I better off poor? What are these perks of which you speak? And by the way, the whole premise of high achievers supporting under-achievers is what another messiah was all about too, about 2000 years ago. It's really not such a bad idea.


Mike Jefferson
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 3:27 pm

If you want to see some real photos and summary of the event, visit:

http://thefifthcolumnreport.blogspot.com/2009/0…


NOBAMA
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 3:28 pm

Going to happen anyway. Why prolong the inevitable. Besides, from ruins comes reconstruction of a form much better than original.


SN
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 3:33 pm

Well, one thing to do longer-term (right now we need to get people spending again or else we're doomed) is to increase the median income (possibly by bringing down the income/wealth of the very rich) so that something like a house isn't unaffordable for 98% of the people at the median income (as it was in LA in 2005). A higher median income will mean more money spent, as the non-rich spend more of their money than do the rich.

Short answer: Increase people's means so that they're not spending beyond it.


NOBAMA
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 3:36 pm

Not a sound policy. Penalizing the rich for doing nothing more than having money? Secondly, increasing people's means so they're not exceeding it is a very sad approach. How about, convincing people not to spend beyond their means. There's a word for people who can't afford a house…”RENTER.” I'm one. The answer isn't in a nutshell, but your leftist approaches amount to sitting in a red-wagon and pulling on the handle, expecting the wagon to then move.


NunzusCaesar
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:39 pm

The cult of conservatism in full bloom.


Socialism Is For F4gs
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 3:48 pm

But liberals don't believe in Jesus..or they do but pretend not to. Nonetheless, High achievers will be quite generous to under-achievers when not forced to. When forced to, MOTIVATION disappears. Motivation is a leadership issue, and liberals have never been good with leadership. I assure you that many are like I am and would stop trying so hard, if we knew those who didn't try would be just as well off. In fact, I may just go the full-liberal route and fraudulantly seek government assistance. And as for USA being socialist, ye olde “what about police, fire, and roads” argument is a bit pedantic. When folks like myself complain about socialism, you know full well we support paying our share for resources we all use. It's the deadbeats we're against. Whether my screen name offends and discourages HOPE, I guarantee it does not exclude reasoning. Your mistake is in assuming reasoning means compromise. Someone with a screen name of Pedophilia Is Bad, wouldn't be called unreasonable, right?


NotSure
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 4:03 pm

Bush is not a socialist, and neither is Obama. It may be fun to say that everyone you don't like is a socialist, but it just isn' t so. Republican Teddy Roosevelt, who initiative the progressive income tax, a socialist? Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower, who taxed the nation's highest marginal rate at the greatest percentage of any administration, a socialist? There are lots of things to criticize about Bush and Obama, but saying that their policies are socialist isn't an argument, it's a vague, scary-sounding pejorative.


NOBAMA
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 4:15 pm

The former Mayan area is now a very nice region, particularly for tourism. Mayans never truly died out and their demise is theorized to have been from overpopulation..you know, the kind that comes from having all their wants and needs met by a government… Socialism style.


pub
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:20 pm

No one is listening to your YouTube talking points.


NOBAMA
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 4:21 pm

I think we've covered the difference between taxes for reasonable community resources and a system that enables the lazy to thrive, already.


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M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 4:25 pm

You don't see the difference between “Pedophilia is bad” and “Socialism is for fags”? Or is “fags” another term for “bad”? And you don't see that that might lead one to conclude a certain lack of reasoning power? And why is the “police, fire, roads” argument (that I wasn't actually making) pedantic? As far as not trying so hard if you knew those who didn't try so hard will be just as well off, do you actually believe that the millionaire that has to pay an additional couple percent tax on his income is somehow being reduced to the level of someone below the poverty line?? Are you truly not in the 95% of the population that will see a tax DECREASE under Obama? And if not, do you truly believe you don't owe at least SOME of your success to being in this society? But even if you don't, can't you see how crying “socialism” is absurd? You may not like the policies but calling them “socialist” is like saying that a paper cut is amputation. You can say it but you look like a pussy. As far as liberals not believing in Jesus…have you read the new Testament? You think Jesus had any use for the wealthy?


M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 4:32 pm

We have? I'm sorry. I must have missed it. Where is that? How are we enabling the lazy to thrive? So is it a moral objection you have or do you think it will not help the economy? Not Sure is raising the point that great Republican Presidents in the past have endorsed a far higher tax rate than Obama is remotely considering. His bigger point (if I understand it) is that calling that “socialism” is nonsense. (Or at least that's my argument). But if you want to go in this direction do you think the lazy thrived under Eisenhower? And if it's a matter of practicality do you think, under that huge tax rate in the 1950's, the economy didn't expand?


obamarhymeswithosama
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 4:33 pm

Amen. Help yourself, bitches.


markodane
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 4:47 pm

Penny…you as me worked hard. I want to know what you where paying before this vast shift to a communist state?


Gin
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:50 pm

I believe you need a lesson in the constitution and our system of government. The federal government’s main role is protecting the United States from enemies, both domestic and abroad. States and cities have the responsibility at their level to do the same. The citizens of a municipality vote on issues such as fire dept. There are many that still have volunteer fire departments. I ask you do you think if you work hard in school and make an A that it would be okay to take that A and bring it down to a B or maybe a C in order for those that did not spend the time studying that you did to make them success students. It is the same principle that Mr. Obama is trying to apply here. He wants to take from those that have worked hard and give to those that have not, This is socialism. I content this principle is wrong.


markodane
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 4:51 pm

sorry….what you were paying into


markodane
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 5:00 pm

Its funny that some people can gripe on people with bad morgages and such but no stand on bailing the billions of dollars on the banks and morgage cos.your aurguments are hollow.


Socialism Is For F4gs
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 10:16 pm

Doesn’t take a lot of reasoning to see how socialism is a poor choice of society. If you’re whining about the political incorrectness…I’m guilty! Teach me a lesson and bring our country down by voting for Obama again.


M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 5:17 pm

We're a lot closer to the society in the movie from whence your moniker came than we apparently know. When a reversion to the tax rates of a decade ago is considered “socialism”, can Flaturin be far behind?


default
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 5:49 pm

Markodane, educate yourself. We're against bailing out ANYONE, including the banks.


default
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 5:55 pm

“YesBama” Hello, I just happen to be of Mayan decent. Take economics 101 and you'll hear a term called “creative destruction”. It's about how when unprofitable businesses fail it helps the economy by not feeding useless resources, and the business owners move on to something productive instead.

BTW, NObama.


Steve
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 11:04 pm

I liked the one that said “Let the failures fail”. Let`s start with Bank of America, Citi, can`t forget Goldman Sachs, AIG, hell, all of Wall Street! Talk about a bunch of lyin` losers! They`re the Real Crooks.


PeterJ
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 11:04 pm

The Bush tax cuts, according to your ‘logic’, are treating rich people with perks that others don’t get. So Bush was a socialist?

That’s some brain you got there.


Cynicor
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 6:25 pm

Er…if you have three people making $10K, $70K, and $2M a year, and reduce the richest one's income to $71K, it doesn't change the median.


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roger
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 6:38 pm

Interesting from an ethnographic standpoint. These people are confronting losses on all fronts – the loss of their political representation, the loss of the “free market” that flushed itself down the toilet, the sense that the Other is taking over. At first, of course, the response was to target blacks with myths about the government's actions against racist redlining in the mortgage industry. Since, of c ourse, that had nothing to do with anything, they still ardently cling to that myth. Another one was that somehow Fannie Mae and the Dems did this. All of these were to be expected responses.

But now they are truly adrift. The GOP is coming apart. The economy is going to be in a further shambles. And the dark and dreadful heart of Reagonomics – the connection between the speculative economy (into which hundreds of billions of retirement dollars have been directed) and easy credit (to make up for stagnating median household income) is being staked so badly it might be a generation before we see Dow 10,000 again.

These people are, like their peasant ancestors, part of the little tradition. They are dependent on the myths and symbols of an elite that, they feel, has betrayed them. An, they are the tools of an elite that gives them tactile symbols that they can take comfort in. That , in sheer economic terms, the miniscule tax rate increases will be far overshadowed by the damage to their property values if houses keep going into a tailspin doesn't really matter. For the elite of the rightwing, the real issue is that the rich will basically be paying those higher taxes – not the protesters. But the rich aren't going to do anything so stupid as gather around a second rate tv personality and rave about the satanic congress. In fact, as the industries in the Sunbelt, which are shedding jobs at a terrific rate, keep getting shuttered – all of them brought there, by the way, at tax payer expense, as Southern states gave incoming manufacturers huge tax breaks that made it hard to sustain infrastructure in education and normal state services – the far right fringe is going to find that even Dixie is deserting them. Louisianans and South Carolinians will not like being held hostage to please a bunch of people who apparently can't add.

The desperation, though, has something tragic in it. These people have been led by the nose all their life, and here they are, faithful to the last, protesting against their own self interest.


M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 6:41 pm

A tad cold. But sadly true.


Julie Kramer
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 6:43 pm

Way to go Americans!. Where to we sign up???


YesBama
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 11:48 pm

Tell it to the Mayans.


gogojojo
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 7:03 pm

the real myth is that you are an intellectual, you are a cross between a wind bag and a blowhard.
'These people are, like their peasant ancestors'
what an ass you are, you elitist sophomore

now go and suck up to the CHANGE obama brings


roger
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 7:23 pm

Gogojojo, not really a windbag. Actually you and your type have been on the scene often in times of crisis. The fascist movements among the Central European peasants in the 30s, the Gerald Smith movement in the U.S. Hell, rebellions both left and right among those like you took off in Luther's Germany and in the French revolution. It is a form of millenialism turned sour. Inevitably,of course, you will lose. You are on the wrong side of history. Your kids are being taught by liberal teachers and already know that your beliefs are out of date. Your house value is dropping. Your eager listening to hate radio merely feeds an anger and frustration that will eventually exhaust you, and has certainly already alienated coworkers and neighbors. This has had the effect of closing your world even more, as you filter out people who 'suck up change.”

It will be interesting if you can get out of the cul de sac you are in. Good luck.


he is wrong
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 7:27 pm

your problem is that you don't understand the full scope of the “resources” that taxes pay for. if you are a wealthy person, you are most likely creating wealth by employing a number of people to work on your behalf or at lower positions in a corporate structure below yourself. so, without the government providing the public education so that your employees can read, how would your business function? without the government creating the infrastructure that allows your employees to drive or take the train or bus to work, how would your business function? Without the government providing a safety net for your employees whose finances may not always be enough to cover the expenses of their family if something drastic happens, how would your business continue to function? it's not just about police and firemen. businesses rely on educated, healthy, and stable employees to create products and wealth. if there is no workforce– there is no economy! the free-market system DOES NOT work if too much capital is concentrated in too few hands (as we should all now be well aware). intelligent government investment (mixed with a heritage of hard work) is what's made this country great, from a before-its-time public education system, to a futuristic (for the 1800s) system of railroads, to the internet (originally a NASA program)– these are all things that have kept america at the forefront of the world and a pillar of economic stability and freedom. your smallness is not a sign of american values. true patriots realize that we have a dedication not only to ourselves, but to our country and our fellow americans.


jrcjr
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 7:38 pm

kinda sad to see it go. it was fun watching the wingnuts get all worked up over it.


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[...] Dave Weigel at The Washington Independent ventured out to the national Rick-Santelli-inspired “Tea Party” and came back with a half a dozen or so photos–and absolutely hilarious captions. [...]


Chester Bogus
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 7:56 pm

No, he's pretty spot-on.

There are few things in life more traumatic than the realization that everything you believe in is wrong.

It often happens with religious faith as well, but imagine how you felt the first time you found out your daughter was having sex, or when you found your son doing drugs – think about the time you caught your wife cheating on you.

This is a lot like that, but on a much, much bigger scale. It isn't personal, it is social – a whole society has realized that their political ideals are cheating on them, doing drugs and having sex, and they don't know how to handle it.

When I was a child, I suffered from deep depression. I handled it by convincing myself that I was awesome. I would even call myself the “King of the World” in defiance when I lost a board game. How could I have lost? I was the king!

I sympathize with these people. Finding themselves lacking, they've taken to the streets to proclaim themselves kings of the world.


Tom
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 7:57 pm

Mayan culture actually died out because of over consumption of resources, clear cutting the forest, etc. to the point they could not sustain their society ant longer. Not because they became socialists. lol.

Hilariously dumb.
GObama


Chester Bogus
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 7:58 pm

Are you against bailing out soldiers that hold out their hands for a little college tuition?

Honestly, is there a difference between supporting a soldier and supporting the janitors that clean up your mess?

Hey, let's debate the value of one human being over another, shall we?


Chester Bogus
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:04 pm

Be honest – would you tell that to a returning soldier who didn't know how to balance his checkbook or handle his taxes?

Why would you say it to anyone else, then?


M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:04 pm

Gogojojo, can you refute his arguments or do you think namecalling is refutation enough? And what does that mean, a cross between a windbag and a blowhard? They're synonymous. That's like saying a cross between a cat and a feline.


boscobobb
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:07 pm

One doesn't need to be a college graduate to comprehend the sweep of history.

gogojojo, discover what it means to be an autodidact, and you will no longer spout words like intellectual and elitist with contempt. You would also do well to travel to other countries and other cultures – and I'm including merely Canada and Mexico – to discover that know-nothingism is the path to oblivion.

roger, your insights are painfully obvious to someone who has traveled through many countries on many continents.


????? ????
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:09 pm

http://newamericanteaparty.com/


M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:10 pm

Not on the level we're dealing with here, default. This isn't a few weak caribou that need to be culled for the good of the herd. This is the herd that's on the verge of destruction.


M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:12 pm

Oh, don't worry. They'll revive it. Can't lose one of their favorite (straw)bogeymen.


roger
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:19 pm

Interestingly, there is a double illusion going on here. These people actually have this vision of an America in which the government has 'kept out of the economy” until now. Of course, this hasn't been true since way before these people were born. From 1945 onwards, the Government on all levels has employed from 13 to 18 percent of the American people. Right now it is at 22 million. In fact, the more conservative the president, the more the figures go up – more people were employed in the government under Reagan than under Carter, percentage-wise. And under Bush's anemic reign, the government was always the big hirer.

If you figure in about 5 percent average unemployment, that would leave the private sphere employing from 77-82 percent of the population, which is pretty much its share of the economy. In good times. In bad times, it retreats. To fulfill the illusion of the “free enterprise IU.S., you would first have to raise unemployemnt to around 25 percent, and then crash the average income to about what they make in a Juarez maquilladora.

Any economist knows this. The protest, then, is on behalf of a never never land. Again, a remarkable phenomena, since it is very much part of the millenial pattern. An impossible and contradictory utopia, on the one hand, the belief in an evil all powerful enemy on the other.


????? ????
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:34 pm

The same movements that built this country. Roger the fact is that your vocabulary grenades which you are so fond of, absolutely does not qualify your opinion as truth. You wish to “WOW” us with your wonderful learning's of the Marriam-Webster dictionary. It just doesn't work. Because whether or not one of the commentators here can speak your rhetoric Does not mean that they cannot understand what is going in this country and the world. The right side of history shows us that NEVER has Socialism and/or Communism Lasted. You are correct that our children are being indoctrinated by liberal has-been hippies in the school system. When they come home from school they get fed the truth, when they walk out amongst the world they also get fed the truth. Liberty will NEVER become tiresome. Liberty will ALWAYS be fought for. Liberty will Always prevail. That is the truth that life feeds our children. House value dropping? So what? It WILL rebound and we WILL rebuild. Maybe to you, your house is worth the shackles that your “Messiah” will enslave you with. To us NO house is valued higher than liberty and NO object is valued higher than liberty. Live free or die!


Lorraine
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:44 pm

I agree with all of this. It's a dam shame that the American people who did not vote for this administration now have to suffer. Get these liberals out of here. They are ruining our country.


gogojojo
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:49 pm

I absolutely filter you out

'Inevitably,of course, you will lose'

I'll wager I pay your freight and you are a parasite

no need to reply, I've moved on, you can twitter and type away in your moms basement

as for radio, I love, no LOVE rush, levin and savage


gogojojo
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:53 pm

aurelius would have better use with his time but if mom and the us taxpayer feeds you then why not surf the net to get your kicks?
get outdoors and go for a walk, it'll do you some good

Aurelius!


roger
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:58 pm

Merriam webster dictionary? There's nothing really complicated in the vocabulary I'm using. It is odd that you display such anger at teachers and at an adult vocabulary. Why? This simply affirms my thesis. The vocabulary is a sign of what John C. Scott calls the great tradition. Now, I've analysed this in terms of a pretty common framework in sociology. It is not fancy at all, or any fancier than your appeal to a rather strange history in which socialism or communism doesn't last. In fact, nothing lasts. The most lasting socio-economic arrangement, actually, was paying tribute to the pharaohs, which well outlasted any system we can come up with.

The live free or die motto is admirable. In fact, this is why it is so sad that you are using it in support of living enslaved and servile, the bootlickers of the wealthiest. It is like house slaves praising the plantation system. It has that sadness.

What happens when a group of people have indoctrinated themselves in myth, have a contempt of learning, and make references to a history they obviously know nothing about? You get someone like you, mr. labe. Proud of your ignorance, proclaiming your slavery is freedom, unable to calmly look back at the recent history of developed economies or understand how to calculate those policies that would actually benefit you. I suppose economic rationality would simply enrage you, since it must come from Merriam Webster. It is too much like a Monty Python skit.


gogojojo
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 8:58 pm

trust in the govies to do what is right?
wow
pelosi, reid and obama will save us?

I'll see you in the re-education camp

the US will be lucky to come out of this in 3 years somewhere between a sweden and a stalinist russia, IF we are lucky


gogojojo
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:00 pm

it may be too late, they have dumbed down the people since fdr, just look at some of the eggheads posting on this site


M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:03 pm

Then you have no true refutation. Not surprising. And naturally you dig into your quiver of unoriginality and accuse me of being a dependent of both my mom and the US taxpayer. Or at least I think that's what you were suggesting. Your first sentence actually makes no grammatical sense. I assume idle namecalling is all you're capable of and so won't bother responding next time unless you can actually cobble together an argument worth answering. Good day, sir.


roger
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:06 pm

Do so. I won't filter you out, however. You are a very interesting specimen. Psychologists need the mentally disturbed to understand normality. You hold a very important role: the mentally disturbed in the political sphere. In yourself, you are unimportant. But as a probe into a decaying opposition, you are a very nice symptom. As for ending on the passionate line about loving people you don't even know, well, I'm going to assume that my guess about your problems with people around you must be correct. I am not saying that this is completely bad. Non-comformity is good. Deviance, to a certain point, is healthy for a society. But deviance combined with a sort of adolescent love of radio personalities is not so healthy.


M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:13 pm

Gogojojo, your posts are among the most foolish here. All you do is call names and make ridiculous statements such as “they have dumbed down the people since FDR”. What the hell does that even mean?? What are you possibly basing that statement on? Even if the majority of idiotic statements on this site were coming from the Left (and they're not) what the frak does that have to do with “dumbing down the people since FDR”?

Something tells me that, if you actually respond to this, it will an attempt to insult me and will, of course, not answer my question. Please, prove me wrong.


M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:18 pm

I believe he has stuck his fingers in his ears and is saying “NYAAAA NYAAAA NYAAAA” as loudly as he can. Certainly not the best the modern GOP has to offer, but fairly typical.


M. Aurelius
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 9:24 pm

Unfortunately these parrots aren't dead.


ron
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 10:10 pm

love these fools protesting what is essentially a rounding error of the money weve given to the uber-rich banksters. at least some of the mortgage funds might help prevent EVERYONES home prices from falling even further.

suckers till the end. so dumb they dont know how dumb they are.


Jester
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 10:12 pm

Renter?

You mean “serf”, don't you? Pissing away your income to grow someone elses wealth?

Yup. House Slave.


ron
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 10:13 pm

its like the last 8 years never happened, right lorraine?

obama is president of a smoking crater thanks to the failed policies and governance (if you can call it that) of conservatives. they got everything they wanted and what we got was an unmitigated disaster that obama has to clean up.


oldswede
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 10:35 pm

Hmmm, teabagging? Do these people know what they're saying?
Check this: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=…
oldswede


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Ron
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 11:25 pm

This really started during the Clinton debacle.


snafubar
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 11:26 pm

“Country First” (but half of you can go to Hell, even if it does drop my property values in half, cause I ain't helpin nobody just so I can make Uncle Ronnie proud”

And these were the clowns singing “united we stand” after 9/11, right?

That wore off pretty quick.

Cutting off their noses to spite their faces.


T. Bagger
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 11:30 pm

That would explain the funny feeling I get on my forehaed whenever repulicans speak on the teevee.


default
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 11:48 pm

You know Bogus, its funny too. Because I just happen to be one of those soldiers. And I'll tell you what the difference is. A CONTRACT. When I signed up, part of my contract was the benefit of the G.I. Bill. As for your janitor, I NEVER signed any contract with him. HE NEEDS TO MOVE TO A DAMNED APARTMENT JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. You people act as if when these houses get foreclosed on these people are kicked on the street to live under a bridge. That's not what happens. “Creative Destruction”. They move to the house or apartment they should have been to begin with, the one they can afford.

BTW, you know how much we make in the military, we aren't rich. And I'm not gonna give you a sob story about how shitty the area is where I live. But I pay my damned bills, and you won't see me asking anyone for a handout.

Your “big heart” is misplaced. You want to pay for someone else's house. YOU DO IT. I've got my own damned bills to pay.

Let me put it this way. I can't afford to economically sustain a house right now so I live in an apartment where I can pay my bills. Why in the hell should I pay for a house some idiot bought that he couldn't afford when I live in a damn apartment.


default
Comment posted March 1, 2009 @ 12:05 am

gogojojo is right. The guy says alot of words and makes no argument. His point is that the GOP is a failure and that they are leading conservative voters down the path but he doesn't give any substance to his reasoning. You don't think Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had anything to do with the housing crisis that started this whole mess? Yeah, if you can't see that I can't help ya. As far as that Satanic BS crack, that's just simple cookie cutter demonizing of the religious right. For that you're in the wrong place buddy. The tea party is about economics. And we're sick and tired of your damned stereotypes anyway. The tea party is about freedom, and about capitalism, and nothing more listed in your long post full of cliches. While I'm at it, you said what, conservatives can't add? Add this up; of the 8 states that still have a budget surplus, how many of them voted democratic last year. Don't know? I'll tell ya. ZERO. Don't believe me eh? That's an “expected response”. Look up the data smart guy. Or are you not quite as intellectual as you seem.


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SamR
Comment posted March 1, 2009 @ 1:41 am

Tell that to Romulus Augustus.


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pkatt
Comment posted March 1, 2009 @ 2:35 am

You dont have to assign this mess to any party. Both are responsible and even worse we are responsible for lazy voting and putting the same crooks back in office over and over. Shame on us for letting it get bad enough for our economy to collapse and us to have to take to the streets to try and fix. Shame on us for letting our media get away with one sided retoric. How many of you know there are economic protests going on worldwide over the same situation we find ourselves in.

How many times do we get to do this? Black Friday, Dot Com, Savings And Loan, … when do we stop believing that wall street or the banking industry has anyone who is not powered by greed. We are about to get Cap and Trade. That will be the one that brings everything down. Its the biggest scam of the century. It doesnt matter if global warming is real or not. Its a funding opportunity. Cap and trade doesnt reduce anything, it taxes everything. Pollution stays the same, emmissions stay the same or get worse but the price of everything will go up as the new taxes get passed, you guessed it, down to the consumer.

I personally will NEVER do business with a bailed out company. I dont care if its Banks, morgage companys, insurance agency or car company. I dont believe in too big to fail and believe that until they do our economys will continue to be sick. I will however be watching my congress men and women. I will not be letting them sweep their mess under the rug and if by chance any good third party pops up out of this mess I will be voting for them. What I wouldnt give for “the common sence party”


A man without a country
Comment posted March 1, 2009 @ 4:16 am

pkatt–

I absolutely agree. I campaigned for Ron Paul and went to the Fayetteville Tea Party. It was hard to keep my mouth shut standing with those who voted for Bush and McCain.

President Bush and Sen McCain are as much to blame for this bailout fever as President Obama. At least Obama SAID he was going to screw our children.

I remember it well. O'Reilley on the radio proclaiming it was ridiculous to even have a discourse on Tarp 1 because it was a no brainer except for “the kool-aid drinkers on the right.” This was as Bush, Obama, and McCain all AGREED to set socialistic precedent. The whole time I am screaming in a room alone. Was I a “kool-aid drinker”? I hit the streets with my sign for Ron Paul to no avail. Republicans, you voted for McCain and now you must sleep in the bed YOU made.


Brian
Comment posted March 1, 2009 @ 4:25 am

No, this started under the disasterous reign of Reagan. What we are witnessing economically right now is just the inevitable end result of Reaganomics, an utterly failed “supply-side economics”. It took over 25 years to play out, but the end result was predictable.


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roger
Comment posted March 1, 2009 @ 11:56 am

Look up the Bureau of Labor stats yourself. Although I like the way you stage the dialogue between yourself (with the eight state budget surpluses!) and the myself (dumbstruck, muttering my cliches to myself as you happily march off to the militia meeting, having once again dispatched a liberal!), in fact your stat doesn't seem to argue for anything. If you want a budget surplus, you must have loved Clinton.

More seriously, the idea that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac somehow forced the housing crisis – which is, really, not a housing crisis but crisis in the speculation built on housing, a very different thing – seems very wide off the mark. It is pretty easy to trace the way the asset bubble worked. Taking no heed of the last time banks exploded – the savings and loan crisis that resulted from the Reagan era deregulations – Phil Gramm and various Clinton appointees – notably Larry Summers – were strong advocates of financial deregulation, and achieved their goal in 2000, with the Commodity Futures Regulation Act. Just as Gramm's wife, Wendy, had set up the Enron swindle by giving the company a pass to, in effect, act as a bank in the 90s when she was the chairwoman of the board regulating futures, Gramm's plan was to utterly bracket the government from the business of mortgage lending. He succeeded. The Commodity Futures Trading Commission was put utterly out of the loop as the “private sector” could, or so Gramm claimed, self regulate. Thus, nobody could look on if AIG decided, as it did, to engage in the production and rating of Credit Default Swaps, all premised on the idea that housing prices were in a linear rise.

But that was simply the first act of a more complicated scenario. This downturn has many causes, and ultimately is caused by the system in place for thirty years. Since the Reagan era, the conservative notion has been to destroy the bargaining power of labor – which would assure higher and higher corporate profits – and substitute, for the higher wage gains that were normal in the sixties and seventies, another kind of asset gain. The median household would, in effect, invest in having a lower wage gain rate by investing, via numerous new tax credit approved money funds, in the market – mainly it turned out in equities. The flood of money made the equities rise, as well as labor costcutting, and it looked like a perpetual motion machine had been forged. You could actually place a bet on your being paid less and win.

But of course the musical chairs had to stop sometime. They stopped in 2001, with the tech bubble bursting. From that time to 2006, median incomes, incredibly, didn't budge. Instead, all household gains were in the asset class.

This is, after all, what you conservatives wanted. What did you think the ownership society meant? It meant you took on greater risk. When Bush said, it is your money, he was essentially saying, you know how to invest your money better than the government does.

Of course, this was ridiculous. It is your body, but that doesn't mean you can perform surgery on your heart if your heart goes bad. In actuality, few people have good investment skills. The asset bubble in housing simply proved it. Middle class people, for the most part, started selling each other houses at elevated price levels at the same time incomes were stagnating. And these same households took out an astonishing amount in home equity loans. They were, in essence, just following the advise of those like Gramm, Bush, Larry Summers, and the conservative lite advisors around Clinton and any number of the freemarket primitives around Bush. The nuttiness of the free market uber alles line goes across the political party lines. After all, if the ownership society is right, who can better judge the risk than you yourself? It is your money. But this is a logical fallacy. And its test has been brutal.

If children in a sandbox decide to sell each other a pail for higher and higher prices, they don't get richer. But, incredibly, this was what was claimed by the Conservative business press. The Kudlows, the Cramers, the CNBC crowd, the Fox News crowd all claimed that this was the best economy – the Goldilocks economy – ever. Instead, they were looking at the end game. A consumer society in which inequality of wealth reaches the extent it had in the U.S. (a recent OECD study shows the U.S., with Mexico and Turkey, as the most unequal country among the developed tier) can't continue to prosper.

You can, of course, look up posts about the economy from your subdeb heroine, Michelle Malkin. Look at what she says about it in 2005 and 2006, when – according to your account – the economy is mysteriously sabotaged by two agencies that do not generate mortgages.

As for the correspondence of this to political party. Well, it is pretty easy to see that certain states, starting with very low levels, aren't doing so bad – Louisiana, for instance. Louisiana is so far down – closer to Juarez, Mexico, than to California – that it is going to take awhile to plunge further down. Other states, like California, bought into Schwarzenegger's buy now pay later slogan – it was obvious that taxes had to be raised for services in the mid 2000s, but he refused to budge. And then you have conservative states like South Carolina that are almost falling apart, with unemployment at 9.5 percent and rising.

But the underlying structures are your key, here. Take Alabama, which is 2 percentage points ahead of Georgia in terms of unemployment. Here's the bureau of labor portrait. You'll notice certain sectors haven't been hurt badly that are simply underrepresented in Alabama: For instance, information hardly exists in that state. On the other hand, Manufacturing is heavy. And the leap in layoffs is an indicator of what is going to be happening all through this year. It will probably start to look like Georgia, where the manufacturing and construction sectors are in freefall.

On a more general level, we have all the data we need over the last 70 years to say that development trajectories are always going to involved mixed economies. The question is always, what should the mix be like? In the U.S., for two decades, the experiment has been made of having a developed governmental structure and not paying for it. That experiment didn't work. There's no unmixed capitalism or socialism, so arguing about ideal types seems to me to be a waste of time.

As for leading you tea baggers by the nose,this is self evident. This is a group that is actually getting a tax decrease in the latest plan. Properly, if you want to “protest” this, you should refuse the decrease – pay more taxes! On the one hand, conservatives claim that all taxes are being paid by the wealthy, on the other hand, they claim that their children – the children of the middle class – aregoing to be paying higher taxes. That's simply a logical disconnect, unless you actually think your children are going to magically rise into the top 1 percentile. If you honestly want to act like the rich, you should be ecstatic – your self interest, given your circumstances, is served. Later on, when, by some dream, you are rich, you change your activism. But to protest now for your aspirational dream later is the essence of stoogehood. It is exactly the way the rich don't act. I mean, they are, of course, happy for you to act for them. But the self-identification, here, verges on the pathological.


roger
Comment posted March 1, 2009 @ 11:56 am

Look up the Bureau of Labor stats yourself. Although I like the way you stage the dialogue between yourself (with the eight state budget surpluses!) and the myself (dumbstruck, muttering my cliches to myself as you happily march off to the militia meeting, having once again dispatched a liberal!), in fact your stat doesn't seem to argue for anything. If you want a budget surplus, you must have loved Clinton.

More seriously, the idea that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac somehow forced the housing crisis – which is, really, not a housing crisis but crisis in the speculation built on housing, a very different thing – seems very wide off the mark. It is pretty easy to trace the way the asset bubble worked. Taking no heed of the last time banks exploded – the savings and loan crisis that resulted from the Reagan era deregulations – Phil Gramm and various Clinton appointees – notably Larry Summers – were strong advocates of financial deregulation, and achieved their goal in 2000, with the Commodity Futures Regulation Act. Just as Gramm's wife, Wendy, had set up the Enron swindle by giving the company a pass to, in effect, act as a bank in the 90s when she was the chairwoman of the board regulating futures, Gramm's plan was to utterly bracket the government from the business of mortgage lending. He succeeded. The Commodity Futures Trading Commission was put utterly out of the loop as the “private sector” could, or so Gramm claimed, self regulate. Thus, nobody could look on if AIG decided, as it did, to engage in the production and rating of Credit Default Swaps, all premised on the idea that housing prices were in a linear rise.

But that was simply the first act of a more complicated scenario. This downturn has many causes, and ultimately is caused by the system in place for thirty years. Since the Reagan era, the conservative notion has been to destroy the bargaining power of labor – which would assure higher and higher corporate profits – and substitute, for the higher wage gains that were normal in the sixties and seventies, another kind of asset gain. The median household would, in effect, invest in having a lower wage gain rate by investing, via numerous new tax credit approved money funds, in the market – mainly it turned out in equities. The flood of money made the equities rise, as well as labor costcutting, and it looked like a perpetual motion machine had been forged. You could actually place a bet on your being paid less and win.

But of course the musical chairs had to stop sometime. They stopped in 2001, with the tech bubble bursting. From that time to 2006, median incomes, incredibly, didn't budge. Instead, all household gains were in the asset class.

This is, after all, what you conservatives wanted. What did you think the ownership society meant? It meant you took on greater risk. When Bush said, it is your money, he was essentially saying, you know how to invest your money better than the government does.

Of course, this was ridiculous. It is your body, but that doesn't mean you can perform surgery on your heart if your heart goes bad. In actuality, few people have good investment skills. The asset bubble in housing simply proved it. Middle class people, for the most part, started selling each other houses at elevated price levels at the same time incomes were stagnating. And these same households took out an astonishing amount in home equity loans. They were, in essence, just following the advise of those like Gramm, Bush, Larry Summers, and the conservative lite advisors around Clinton and any number of the freemarket primitives around Bush. The nuttiness of the free market uber alles line goes across the political party lines. After all, if the ownership society is right, who can better judge the risk than you yourself? It is your money. But this is a logical fallacy. And its test has been brutal.

If children in a sandbox decide to sell each other a pail for higher and higher prices, they don't get richer. But, incredibly, this was what was claimed by the Conservative business press. The Kudlows, the Cramers, the CNBC crowd, the Fox News crowd all claimed that this was the best economy – the Goldilocks economy – ever. Instead, they were looking at the end game. A consumer society in which inequality of wealth reaches the extent it had in the U.S. (a recent OECD study shows the U.S., with Mexico and Turkey, as the most unequal country among the developed tier) can't continue to prosper.

You can, of course, look up posts about the economy from your subdeb heroine, Michelle Malkin. Look at what she says about it in 2005 and 2006, when – according to your account – the economy is mysteriously sabotaged by two agencies that do not generate mortgages.

As for the correspondence of this to political party. Well, it is pretty easy to see that certain states, starting with very low levels, aren't doing so bad – Louisiana, for instance. Louisiana is so far down – closer to Juarez, Mexico, than to California – that it is going to take awhile to plunge further down. Other states, like California, bought into Schwarzenegger's buy now pay later slogan – it was obvious that taxes had to be raised for services in the mid 2000s, but he refused to budge. And then you have conservative states like South Carolina that are almost falling apart, with unemployment at 9.5 percent and rising.

But the underlying structures are your key, here. Take Alabama, which is 2 percentage points ahead of Georgia in terms of unemployment. Here's the bureau of labor portrait. You'll notice certain sectors haven't been hurt badly that are simply underrepresented in Alabama: For instance, information hardly exists in that state. On the other hand, Manufacturing is heavy. And the leap in layoffs is an indicator of what is going to be happening all through this year. It will probably start to look like Georgia, where the manufacturing and construction sectors are in freefall.

On a more general level, we have all the data we need over the last 70 years to say that development trajectories are always going to involved mixed economies. The question is always, what should the mix be like? In the U.S., for two decades, the experiment has been made of having a developed governmental structure and not paying for it. That experiment didn't work. There's no unmixed capitalism or socialism, so arguing about ideal types seems to me to be a waste of time.

As for leading you tea baggers by the nose,this is self evident. This is a group that is actually getting a tax decrease in the latest plan. Properly, if you want to “protest” this, you should refuse the decrease – pay more taxes! On the one hand, conservatives claim that all taxes are being paid by the wealthy, on the other hand, they claim that their children – the children of the middle class – aregoing to be paying higher taxes. That's simply a logical disconnect, unless you actually think your children are going to magically rise into the top 1 percentile. If you honestly want to act like the rich, you should be ecstatic – your self interest, given your circumstances, is served. Later on, when, by some dream, you are rich, you change your activism. But to protest now for your aspirational dream later is the essence of stoogehood. It is exactly the way the rich don't act. I mean, they are, of course, happy for you to act for them. But the self-identification, here, verges on the pathological.


Jennifer
Comment posted March 1, 2009 @ 9:39 pm

We can no longer compromise our values. We have to stand firm for what this country was founded on……the constitution. Individual rights and freedoms.


Jay Ballou
Comment posted March 1, 2009 @ 10:30 pm

The stupidest people in America get their 15 minutes.


Jay Ballou
Comment posted March 1, 2009 @ 10:36 pm

“gogojojo is right”

It would be so surprising if he were that you discredit yourself by claiming it.

“Or are you not quite as intellectual as you seem.”

Sour grapes.


Jay Ballou
Comment posted March 1, 2009 @ 10:40 pm

“your vocabulary grenades which you are so fond of”

Lots of sour grapes here. I know there are right wingers somewhere who don't make a pretense of despising intelligence, literacy, and knowledge, but they don't seem to be posting here.


MantisBot
Comment posted March 2, 2009 @ 12:42 am

Funny enough, if you're having such a tough time you probably aren't paying for anyone's mortgage.

Why can't people figure that out? Just because you were a McCain or Bush supporter doesn't mean you're going to be paying for anyone else's “mistakes.”


kladinvt
Comment posted March 2, 2009 @ 7:32 am

What a bunch of tools! Is this bunch of “spontaneous protesters” as high as their public mouthpiece Rush Limbaugh!? They must be to fall for this “red meat” baiting!


snarkette
Comment posted March 2, 2009 @ 1:15 pm

A handful of coupons for a free shake at McDonalds would have vaporized this 'protest'.


o4petesake
Comment posted March 2, 2009 @ 3:07 pm

John Wall couldn't have said this any better.

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists, Obama supporters, et al:

We have stuck together since the late 1950’s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot, and will not ever agree on what is right, so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile, chalk it up to irreconcilable differences, and go our own way…

Here is a model separation agreement: Our two groups will equitably divide up the country by landmass, each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes. We don’t like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O’Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them) …

We’ll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, girlieboys, hippies, and illegal aliens. We’ll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEOs, and rednecks. We’ll keep the bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood . You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we’ll retain the right to invade and hammer any place that threatens us. You can have the peaceniks, and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll provide them security.

We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values.. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, and Shirley McClaine. You can also have the U.N. We, of course, will no longer be paying the bill.

We’ll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon and Prius you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare, if you can find any willing, practicing doctors. We’ll continue to believe healthcare is a need and not a right. We’ll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute “Imagine”, “I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing”, Kum Ba Ya, or We Are the World”.

We’ll practice trickle down economics, and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we’ll keep our history, our name, and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots, and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I’ll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely, John J. Wall.
Law Student and an American

P.S. Also, please take Barbra Streisand.


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default
Comment posted March 3, 2009 @ 3:45 am

Wow, it sure takes a long story to explain away the facts. You're so in-the-tank you're clearly not going to budge on your reasoning. But I sometimes I enjoy pulling the card that topples the house in arguments pseudo-intellectuals think are so complicated that they will confuse the reader / listener into submission.

Allow me. Just for the record, you said, “When Bush said, it is your money, he was essentially saying, you know how to invest your money better than the government does. Of course, this was ridiculous.”

CLASSIC! Aside from the obvious loss freedom your socialist alternative requires, there's little to evidence that the system you advocate works. The most successful example you might be able to use would be social security only because it hasn't completely failed, yet. On the other hand, if I invest my own money, I can choose an insured savings account, any number of little to no risk mutual funds or I can choose to be more aggressive if I wish. Economies are driven by those who take risks. For every Microsoft that rises to power, there are hundreds of others who fail. That is the risk one takes when they choose to start a business. But it is a choice. And I can easily choose to find work with a company that has fought the long hard road to the top and won, reducing my risk to almost nothing.

As someone who seems to know a little about economics you'd have to admit, that if Mr. Obama were allowed to be president for the next 25 years, and his economic policies were actually effective in pulling us out of this initial crisis and did not hurt the economy in the long run, he would inevitably preside over normal market fluctuations. Obama would have a recession. At this point, because we had already decided to become and remain a mostly socialist nation, what would be the answer to the recession at that point? Communism? My point is that there will always be market fluctuations. There has only been one president to ever try to spend his way out of a recession; FDR. And if you look at the GDP graphs for 1937 you will see what the result was.

I'm going to try to follow the rest of your argument, but again, while you do have an argument, you give little facts to back up your reasoning.

I assume your pail analogy is meant to relate to the housing market. I hope you have more reasoning behind your thoughts on this than you give, but there is a simple economic reason why housing prices went up during that time period. The tech boom of the late 90's caused the biggest economic boom this country has seen since WWII. Incomes rose, demand for housing increased, housing prices rose to meet the demand. Again with our situation currently; housing bubble burst, oil prices rose, investments began to tank, incomes began to shrink and demand for housing went down. The housing prices dropped to meet the demand and now we have one of the best markets for home buyers we've had in a long time.

You say, “A consumer society in which inequality of wealth reaches the extent it had in the U.S. can't continue to prosper.” And you cite a report. I won't argue on the numbers. Capitalist societies have large income gaps. But you assert that the capitalist system will inevitably fail. Prove it. On the other hand, I don't even have to name the socialist economies that have failed throughout history for you to know them. You know who they are. Hell, even Putin came out recently warning us not to try socialism. And if that isn't enough, just open your eyes and look around. The United States is on top because of its freedom. We are the economic leader of the world. Even before our economy went into recession the most of the rest of the world had already entered its cycles. And you tell me that wealth redistribution will be a buffer to economic cycles? Tell that to anyone in the European Union.

You say, “your subdeb heroine, Michelle Malkin”. Here we go with more stereotypes and cliches. There is nothing mysterious about bad investments. High risk investments are just that, high risk. Investing in funds whose cornerstones are loans made to people who never would have qualified in a free market is high risk. No matter how they tried to combine the funds to hide it, they were doomed from the beginning. And now the taxpayers are paying the mortgages on top of the billion dollar bailouts to the banks. The only argument you could possibly make in the defense of this system would be to say that it is our moral responsibility to help those in need. I say that those in need wouldn't be there in the first place if the banks had done business as usual and denied these people loans in the first place. The argument is ideological. You believe we need to adopt socialism; to steal from the rich and give to the poor, and I say that the house I build is my own and you have no right to claim ownership to it. “nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.” – 5th Amendment. Where is my compensation? You might say that my compensation lies in the idea that if I were to buy a house and to fail to pay my mortgage the government might one day bail me out, but because I am a responsible person this will never happen. There is no compensation for me.

Regarding the states, if your assertion is that the state deficits are all somehow interrelated to California or other states in deficit, Alabama is right next door and has a deficit that rivals California’s! Your argument about Georgia and Alabama has no teeth; it is speculative about the future and has no bearing on their current circumstances. And if you want to point out states with high unemployment rates you will see a similar trend. The top unemployment rate in the union (the only one that is in the double digits) is owned by Democrats (Michigan) and the average unemployment rate for blue states is 1% higher than that in red states.

You say, “we have all the data we need over the last 70 years to say that development trajectories are always going to involved mixed economies.” I agree with you to a certain point. Complete lazier-faire is not an option, but I believe in keeping regulation to a minimum. I have all the data I need to know that large expansions of government stifle the markets. “In the U.S., for two decades, the experiment has been made of having a developed governmental structure and not paying for it.” I disagree with you here. The problem with the Bush's was that they kept too many governmental programs going (including the wars) to reduce spending to the point it needed to be lowered to. That was their failure, and it was no experiment, it was predictable. Our system has always been based on free markets and has always been more capitalist than socialist. There are few socialist experiments you can point out that have stood the test of time, and the ones that have survived, would you really want to live there? I won't let that happen to my country. “This is a group that is actually getting a tax decrease in the latest plan.” Actually the rates aren't being changed. Some people will be getting tax credits which will themselves be taxed, and I haven't heard that the tax credits even last longer than the next year or two. “they claim that their children – the children of the middle class – aregoing to be paying higher taxes. That's simply a logical disconnect, unless you actually think your children are going to magically rise into the top 1 percentile.” Nope, just simple economics. We're borrowing trillions of dollars right now. When you borrow money, you will eventually have to pay it back, with interest. Even assuming that it is all being printed (and it isn't) the price will be paid in inflation.

You close with calling me names. I won't be quite as rude, and I probably won't post again. I just saw a naked man in the room enjoying the superiority of wearing the Emperor's clothes so much that I just had to point it out.

Now back to the beginning. You say, “having once again dispatched a liberal”. I did. You weave a twisted web including all of the left's usual suspects into a scheme that takes many leaps of faith to reach the conclusion. My argument is based on simple economic principle. And regarding the state budget deficits, you have yet to explain why if liberal economics is so superior, there are no blue states left with a surplus. I'll give you a bit more data; the number of blue states in deficit outnumber the number of red states in deficit by more than 2 to 1.

How pompous, to accuse a person of being “pathological” simply because you disagree with their political beliefs.


default
Comment posted March 3, 2009 @ 4:11 am

In that case, maybe I should buy a house. You can cover me right? Thanks bro.


Keith Felix
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 7:26 am

took u 15 min. for that reply?


Keith Felix
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 7:34 am

Obama cleaning up alright Ron.By throwing out trillions like they are tissues and he a snot-nosed kid. Head out of the sand, Ron. this is not for the greater good!


Ron Armistead
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 8:08 am

Let's take it to the next level


GA Carter
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 8:18 am

The US government didn't bail out the buggy manufacturers when the auto was born and the country survived. Lets try that approach now. Let the weak and stupid fail.


D.L. Deahl
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 3:08 pm

This was probably written 'tongue in cheek' but it may be the only viable solution. Thanks for the time it took to write this letter, I appreciated every word – and agree 100%.


Gene
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 4:58 pm

Why not have a drive on DC ,Drive in at 1000 AM ( after the rush hour ) head fot the Capitol at 1030 everyone blow their

horn then again at 1100 AM and leave. No More Bailouts, No More stimulus Bill , We Like The Health Care we have

now, No Secret Ballot


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selee
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 6:20 am

We've had enough. Seems responsibility and budgets are out the window and are being replaced by poor judgement and “you owe me” attitudes. Fannie May and Freddie Mac are the very government agencies that were instrumental for getting us in the mess we're currently in. Yet these poorly apportioned mortgages are the first to receive our tax dollars in “bail out”, I say enough is enough!!


cmd
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 6:38 am

What's the next level?


cmd
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 6:46 am

I'm with you buddy. I think we should go with the middle states . That way most of us won't have to move. I don't think the liberals would last ten years


lillybart123
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 7:18 am

I think I kind of know what gogojojo is talking about. Eaxcept for the FDR part. Sadly the American people are not all that they used to be. There are many intelligent hardworking Americans. But there are more lazy, stupid, self indulgentAmericans then ever before. I would have to guess that gogojojo mentioned FDR because of the welfare programs he started. His programs have rewarded stupidity and laziness. Don't you agree?


lillybart123
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 7:23 am

what?


lillybart123
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 7:52 am

I agree with you. My daughter attends public school. Her Civics teacher just loves Obama. We have to watch out for our kids.


Veteran and wife
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 10:25 am

We had a good plan for our old age- until now! We bought what we could afford, paid our bills, served in the military for almost 30 years, gave to charities, paid off our mortgage so the sale of our house would support us in old age and we have no current bills. NOW, both in our 80's our nestegg is worth about 10 cents. Thanks a lot for allowing us to pay off everyone elses bad investments and bills with our taxes, while we look forward to the poorhouse.


jj
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 1:56 pm

You go ahead and retain the right to invade anyplace you want to freak!! as long as its you or your kids fighting for it. My sons in the Military along with alot of other Democrats children and if you or your child are not the ones fighting than shut the F___ up and I don't usually cuss!!! How dare you act like because were democrats we don't love our country, and if you hate the American system so bad than go ahead and move to Iraq or Afganistan because everything you just said is how they feel about each other and about Americans, and they blow each other up daily because of political differences and religious differences, so if thats what you want buddy than move over there!!!


Pete
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 9:31 pm

I believe there was nothing said about Democrats -


Pete
Comment posted March 5, 2009 @ 9:34 pm

Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.


evelyn
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 5:06 am

I would suggest that you read Obama Nation perhaps you will change your tune.


William
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 5:54 am

What a bunch of Thieves, Hussein Obama is the worst. Why should he take my money to pay someone else Mortgage. I think he should be Impeached for spending the tax money that the Voters do not want him to spend, but he goes ahead and spends it.. He didn't ask me, did he ask any of the Voters? The government does not produce anything, and is NOT SUPPOSE to be in Private bussiness. BUT Hussein Obama has done it and the American Tax Payer is paying for every cent of it. He has a Blank Check and we have to pay for it.


Stubby
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 6:51 am

John Wall says it all.


jenabee
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 7:20 am

I just found out about the New American Tea Party, and plan to participate in any way I can to support this coalition. What the government is doing is a criminal act and they need to be held accountable. Thank God for the “ground swell” I see coming. It is time we stopped this Communism crap. The people in this nation who have worked hard, followed the rules, and looked forward to living out their lives in peace and freedom are getting the shaft.
Either we win this country back or we live in tyranny.


Tom Rodgers
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 8:19 am

I have jokingly said for years”What we need is another Boston Tea Party”. Now someone has actually come to the plate and put my words to action. It seems that those who try to manage their income in a responsible way are the ones paying for others' greed. I am 63 years old and have always lived within my means as my parents taught me to do. I am tired of seeing “bail out” programs for those who have squandered their funds without regard to those who keep their noses to the grindstone to buy what they can afford. I am tired of seeing those that have no idea of the value of the dollar being rewarded by the helping hand of our Government.


WAVEVET13
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 10:14 am

Boston Harbor isn't the only place to hold a 'tea party'!! I was brought up to be responsible for your own actions and not put the blame on someone else. Also to take care of yourself and your own; quit whining to 'government' to take care of you!


ap[ril
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 11:25 am

STOP THE SO CALLED STIMULOUS. OBOMA IS WRONG. MAYBE HE COULD BE A ROCK STAR, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. NO NO NO. IF IT IS NOT STOPPED NOW, WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN.


marion
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 11:29 am

Where do I send the TEABAG?


april
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 11:32 am

In case you don't realize it, but the Kitchen has burned down, we are next


Linda N.
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 1:29 pm

Dear Mr. Wall,
Thanks for saying it nice and plain! I'm sending it on!!!
Linda N.


Valerie
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 1:59 pm

On April 1, 2009, all Americans are asked to send a TEABAG to Washington, DC.

You do not have to enclose a note or any other information unless you so desire. Just a TEABAG.

Send it April 1, 2009 to:

1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Washington, DC 20500


Trish
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 3:53 pm

I thought the point of sending a tea bag was to protest all the pork in the stimulus package. Why all the squabbling. It isn't one party against the other, it's about the wasted money not the wasted words .


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Alice Townson
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 4:16 pm

WHY CANNOT CONGRESS (EVERYONE THERE!!) HAVE TO LIVE BY THE SAME RULES THE REST OF US DO?!!! THEIR BENEFITS ARE WAY AND ABOVE WHAT THEY SHOULD BE. ALL THE SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES SHOULD BE ON SOCIAL SECURITY AND PAY LIKE WE DO…..AND BUY THEIR INSURANCE, HAVING THE SAME RESTRICTIONS AS THE REST OF US! THEIR SALARIES ARE WELL ABOVE US 'NORMAL PEOPLE'. LET THEM 'WALK THE WALK' AND HAVE TO LEARN TO LIVE ON LESS………. ABOVE ALL GET RID OF THE PORK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MARY
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 4:52 pm

TEA BAG POWER RULES! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! KEEP US INFORMED PLEASSSSSSEEEE! ! ! ! ! !


jim
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 6:49 pm

This protest is stupid. First they are complaining about how Obama is wrong and they voted for Bush (no I did not make a mistake). Obama has only been in office for about 6 weeks. This will take time so give him a break. Second this whole problem was brought about buy “Curious” George Bush. Third Obama ran his campaign on what he is doing NOW. And since he won by a landslide I think this is what America wants.


Larushka
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 8:33 pm

At least you're in your 80's – I'm 58, husband 63 and all the money has gone and we are unhireable. We had responsibly saved for 35 years for retirement and will be homeless soon with no chance of finding work and not enough social security to pay the rent. We are the new penniess middle-class. What happens to us????


Melody
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 10:04 pm

send a teabag to both your state Senators and House Reps and 1600 Pennsylvania. The media
won't cover this….and the postal service in the WH wont do anything but throw teabags away.


Ken
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 10:52 pm

I can just see the mail scanning system picking out all the tea bag letters and throwing them into a big pile to be halled to the dump and never counted or mentioned to the media, Reps, Senators, cabinate members or anyone else…. the concept is great.. how can we get them counted?? A permit would be needed to pile them in a park or grass area… aren't there some friends in DC that will bird dog the program.


Ken
Comment posted March 6, 2009 @ 11:10 pm

young man you are blind…. in about 10 different ways… starting with not studing the “nonexistant” background of Mr. Obama…. what do you think he has been signing almost everyday …. items that don't even go to congress….. Bush has nothing to do with what has been going on for the past six weeks. Yep, he ran a “change” campaign and that is exactly what he is gradually doing… taking your freedom away and let you pay for the food, gas, schooling etc, etc. of illegals, minorities, dogs and even cats. Oh yes, where was that landslide…. if it hadn't of been for the young college kids he brainwashed, he wouldn't be in the big chair. Oh yes, could you pass the national securiety clearance….. he couldn't.


Mike Sample
Comment posted March 7, 2009 @ 5:40 am

We,here in South Carolina, have finally got good republican fiscal conservatives in office.Senator Jim DeMint and Governor Mark Sanford. Lindsay Graham is a RINO, but has a few good ideas. DeMint or Sanford would make a good president.
I,we, are in total support of the TEA BAG idea and will certainly do our part.


Mike Sample
Comment posted March 7, 2009 @ 5:52 am

This kind of thinking and gullibility is what got us in this mess in the first place. In 6 weeks he has spent (borrowed) more money than has been borrowed in the the entire history of the United States starting with Washington to the present. For Gods sake man, what are your political beliefs anyway?


stephen mccarthy
Comment posted March 7, 2009 @ 9:49 am

keep up the good work


Jolie
Comment posted March 7, 2009 @ 11:20 am

Jenabee: you are right. The folks who watched the Nazis take away innocent people just stood there – and did nothing. We cannot allow our senators, congressmen/women and President to destroy our country out of greed and self concern. I am 65 and fear Obama will be giving the illegial aliens benfits to social security. Those illegal folks who haven't worked or paid in to the SS. That means this can affect what I get (I worked all these years and paid in!) and frankly, it will affect you, your parents, your children, etc. Do you want to pay for their healthcare? Do you want Medicare to change so you cannot get health care? If we do not stop the insanity in Washington we ALL pay. It won't be just other people's mortages, folks. So think about what is going to happen down the road. Our country is heading for bankruptcy and the outcome of Mr Obama not really having a plan, or knowing where all the money has gone that he has given out… why isn't it monitored when they dole it out? Who is the idiot in charge of this? Can't they add and subtrack and write down who it was given to and make them accountable? Stand up folks! Its going to get worse and the more we can stop now, the better off we will all be. And lets not vote back into office the tax evaders, the pork supporters in congress, etc. Are you tired of them stuffing YOU?


MJ
Comment posted March 7, 2009 @ 11:56 am

he did NOT win by a landslide!!


JANET MARTINSON
Comment posted March 7, 2009 @ 1:16 pm

I don't understand our leaders. Even I know that by pumping all that money into the economy, is making my dollar worth less. Pretty soon we are just going to have funny money. When I was brought up, if you didn't have the money, YOU DID NOT GET IT!!!!!!! I DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA AND THANK GOD HE GAVE ME SOME BRAINS.


Debbie Meyer
Comment posted March 7, 2009 @ 6:01 pm

AMEN TOM! I WAS BROUGHT UP THE SAME WAY AND TRIED TO RAISE MY TWO GIRLS THAT WAY. UNFORTUNATELY MY 20 YR OLD HAS GROWN UP HEARING AND BELIEVING ALL THE B.S. I AM TRUELY AFRAID FOR OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY NOW THAT WE HAVE SUCH A PRESIDENT, AND THE SCARIEST PART IS, SOME MISGUIDED AMERICANS PUT HIM THERE. GOD HELP US ALL. I JUST HOPE THAT EVERYONE CAN BAND TOGETHER AND THE SMALL GROUP OF SENATORS/CONGRESSEMEN WILL SPEAK UP. (don't know a lot about politics but my “gut” feelings, woman's intuition….whatever you want to call it…..is very disturbed) I WILL JUST PRAY.


Charles
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 4:51 am

I thought it was against the law for any mail to be open by anyone except the person it is addressed to? Can this law be enforced in this matter?


drummer
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 9:07 am

I have some ideas on the next level but it would get a bit ugly . This goverment needs to understand its WE THE PEOPLE ! And WE THE PEOPLE have the power . If you love your freedom and your country stand and fight for it .


Liz Jackson
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 9:19 am

Are all of you forgetting that Bush got us into this?


mia
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 10:39 am

Yeah, because there was no Democratic Congress in charge. :eyeroll

In case you really are 'that' slow … that was sarcasm.


Carol
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 11:30 am

Two wrongs don't make a right!


Carol
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 11:33 am

The American people were duped. I have liberal friends who voted for Obama and who are horrified by what he is doing.


shalimar
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 12:39 pm

good God! if we give this man more breaks, we will loose the clothes our backs then. This man is just BAD BAD NEWS. He only cares for Obama! and his croonies! Why should I be paying my hard earned money to others that did not know how to take care of their own money and buying mortgages they could not afford to begin with? Again they want people to support them, another kind of welfare?


Deb
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 1:45 pm

Why has no one mentioned that CONGRESS has been controlled by the DEMOCRATES for the PAST TWO YEARS…..there is the problem. Why do we need interuperters in the Social Security Office? Why did Obama win and who voted for him? How about minorities, poor and the Hollywood Crowd. NOT the working class that PAYS TAXES. YES I CAN and he certainly thinks he can do whatever he wants. My tea bag is addressed and ready to mail. Retirement may be a thing of the past and we will work til our last breath is drawn if we don't have change. Stop the give away programs and work and do drug tests to those that want a helping hand. Let them clean our parks and care for children of parents who want an education or trade. Get them OFF Welfare and NO MORE FREE RIDES!!! WORK to earn it and spend wisely,.


Joe Garner
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 1:59 pm

Bush and the Democratic lead congress. Namely Barney Frank and Chris Dodd with the banking fiasco.
Bush warned of collapse three years ago!!!


Ray
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 2:06 pm

I will not send a teabag, but I will send a teabag label. The post office will just identify the tea bag mail and toss it. Also, I don't want to waste a perfectly good teabag on pitiful, porcine politicians. I support the intent of the campaign.
Ray
Derry, NH


Sharon
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 2:43 pm

Bush's fiascos came only AFTER Bill Clinton insisted that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae loosen the requirements for loans and helped to cause the subprime boondoggle. We have been on this downhill slope without any voice. A teabag is a pretty cheap statement, do you think that anyone in Washington will remember the Boston Tea Party? Is it still taught in our schools? Hmmm.


Susan
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 2:44 pm

I hope this catches on BIG TIME!!!! We worked over 50 years to watch our savings evaporate and get billed for other peoples mortagages. The American dream is home ownership when EARNED, not given. Our share of Obama's “reparations” has been paid 10 times over in welfare!!!!!


Peggy Allard
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 2:56 pm

Who do I address when sending the tea bag?


LEN
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 3:51 pm

I will send an empty teabag “wrapper” in recoginition of the “empty promises” put forth by the Liberal,
Socialist, Democratic Party. INSANITY may be defined as doing the same thing, over, and over, and
over again, expecting a different outcome. We must consider “term limits,” at every level of government, if we expect any improvement to occur — they will not change their ways of their own accord or recognize that we finally mean business (we do finally mean business, don't we?).


Billie
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 3:58 pm

I agree with everything you said. Where do I mail my tea bag?


Kathy
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 7:17 pm

I will be sending my tea bag, the liberal democrates and a couple of republicans (that I hope will be looking for new jobs soon) are totally out of control and don't have a clue what it takes to run this country. They live in their own world of money and power (wouldn't you love to vote yourself a raise…). This probelm can't be hung on Bush, other than he should have made lots of noise about the liberals lying about there not being a problem with Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac. Barney Frank and his gang repeatedly reported NO PROBLEM when ask to look into the situtation. It was taped on CSPAN. There is an emil going aroung saying it's been taken out of circulation here in the US, but the Canadian's are still circulating a portion og it, here is the web site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1. Best we all arm ourselves with knowledge about what's going on in Washington and our local goverments and you'd best not trust the liberal media to give the information.


JAY STANSELL
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 9:15 pm

In the first six weeks of O'Bama's presidency, he has already committed double the amount of the National Debt than President Bush spent in his eight years and President Bush was fighting a war on several fronts. In 2001 President Bush warned congress that Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac were out of control. Has anyone ever connected O'Bama with those radicals that he supported there in Chicago? Do we really know the whole story about where O'Bama was really born? I plan on sending my tea bag to my Congressmen and to the White House. Jay


Bob
Comment posted March 8, 2009 @ 9:36 pm

Liz; please! Do not forget that during the Carter administration the government began pressing the banking industry into making loans to those who knowingly could not afford to make the total payments. This policy was again not only reinforced during the Clinton administration but was actually escalated to allow more loans. During these times John McCain, not my favorite person, as well as Bush warned on many occasions of the potential problems with Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac.

If you'll also remember in Nov of 2000 the bottom dropped out of the stock market due to the dot.com failures; this was before Bush went into office. Once in office the market continued to struggle and then 9-11. Ok before you go there, like it or not we went to war based on intelligence that was shared and thought to be true, even in the Clinton administration; it wasn't just a cowboy way. He made a decision, backed by congress, and stood by the decision to do everything he could to protect this country and allow you and I to have this debate.

During this time we fought two wars, Bush cut taxes which resulted in less tax on you, by mid 2002 the market began climbing, 2007 the market was at a all time high and everyone was so to speak “In High Cotton.” If that term confuses you it means things were really really good for all. Oh yes, did I mention that we were not again attacked on our home soil by terrorist; unlike several of our more liberal countries across the pond. I can appreciated one’s willingness to want to blame everything on Bush since the majority of folks, I’m including you in this number, have stopped thinking for themselves, depend on the bias liberal media for all of their information, and has basically gone back to thinking love an peace will win the war on terror. Actually, it would be great if it would work but it just ain’t gonna happen! Those people HATE us! Hope you have a great day!


Phil
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 7:14 am

You could always send it registered and/or return receipt requested….it isn't THAT expensive.


Marlene
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 9:48 am

I'll be sending a teabag label or a wrapper from a teabag. The reason being is there is going to be some idiot out there who is going to try to use this to there advantage and mail some type of poison. Then the government can use the excuse that all the teabags were destroyed before they made the point clear that were sick of the crap we're fed.


fedupinvermont
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 10:16 am

HeyJim, 52% does not constitute a landslide victory ! The majority of that 52% are ignorant of the facts and were voting for the wrong reasons. They were looking for the handouts and the increased welfare. Alot of people voted for him because they want healthcare, it sounds good but when you educate yourself about all that entails it's really not so great. Especially when it's not just americans that will be covered.He is leading us down the road to socialism and you are all falling in line without thinking what that really means for our country. We are capitalist and if you don't like it, MOVE!!! Another thing, I'm so sick of hearing the Bush bashing, when you consider what he dealt with in his two terms,911,Katrina,multiple hurricanes, the War on Terror(Saddam was financing terrorists) and let's not forget all the aid supplied to other countries, we got out of it pretty cheap, and then along came Obama. He is intent on destroying our country from within.


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Bill Simms
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 10:27 am

Our country is being overthrown by our politicians


Vicki
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 10:29 am

I'll be sending a wrappers just like Marlene—pasted to my letters to my senator, congressmen, Nancy Pelosi (… :(…) AND Obama. I'm stinking sick and tired of this already and it hasn't even happened yet!And Bob, don't give me any of your guff about “this happened before…..”This is WAY worse than before. OUR life savings didn't get tossed out the windows BEFORE, Bob. They are going, going, GONE this time. The stock mkt has taken a nose dive, BOB, if you haven't noticed–you can buy a share of GE common stock for a nickle! and nobody's buyin'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Noone has any confindence in Obama and his cronies and their “plan”, BOB—-face it. If we don't get some people in their who know what their doing financially, we're dead like Rover—it's all over!


Vicki
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 10:57 am

Some people on here like to throw stones so in keeping w/the stone throwing, lets not forget ole Barney Frank and his lying about the solvency of Freddie and Fannie up til the last second when he HAD to tell the truth! And, by the way CLINTON, that old rounder, was up to his eyeballs trying to get his wife into politics so she'd be busy enough she (maybe) wouldn't notice what was really going on in the oval office. When the dems get nasty, you can be assured they are backed into a corner looking for someone to blame, blame, blame and oh, I guess this fiscal mess is the fault of those naughty GOP monsters. Those terrible spenders: liberating Iraq from an oppressive regime, throwing money at people devistated by TWO hurricanes, and let's not forget 9/11, just to name a few……


A. KOVAR
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 11:09 am

HOW STUPID DO THEY THINK WE ARE,HOW LONG DID THEY THINK PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY THAT ARE RESPONSABLE, CAN JUST STAND HERE AND LET THIS CONTINUE,WHILE THEY TAKE US AND THE COUNTRY DOWN, WHILE THEY ARE IN THERE BUBBLE UP THERE IN WASHINGTON, WITH THERE SMURKY SMILES LAUGHING AT US.THEY HAVE DIVIDE AND CONQURE, BEFORE IT DOES HAPPEN WE WILL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.


Wendy
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 12:07 pm

I think I'm personally going to go to Congress in a rented private plane and tell them I'm broke and ask them to how much can they give me?It seems to work for all the big companies so why wouldn't it work for the little people as well?I'm at least willing to give accountablility of where I would spend the money, why cant the big companies do that?


Izzy
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 12:08 pm

Good job, make sure that you get a hold of Rush and Shawn and let them know about the tea bags being sent to pennsylvania ave between the 1st of April and the 15th.Millions listen to them and that will only increase the amount of tea bags, what a message to send to our government. Democrats and Republicans are pissed off about all of these bailouts and tax evasion by our so-called leaders. It's time to send a strong message, I too, wrote my senators and asked them not to vote for the stimulus package, they did so without even reading it. It's disgraceful and a total abuse of trust.

Everyone wants change in our government, it has become corrupt, but this is NOT THE CHANGE AMERICANS VOTED FOR.


Izzy
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 12:15 pm

Have you noticed that there has been no call except for Senator Sanders of a complete investigation into Fannie and Freddie and just what happened to our housing market. That's because there are too many foxes in that hen house and they are all still there in the congress and senate. I wrote my senator when this first happened and demanded a full and complete outside investigation, nothing has happened yet and I fear that nothing ever will. It's coruption in it's purest form.


Shirley Camp
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 12:19 pm

Have you heard anything about Congress taking any kind of salary cut or at least freeze any increases. No, and you won't. Since they vote their own salary, raises, perks and their own rules are you surprised that the so-called Stimulus Bill is filled with all that pork so they can get elected next time. That's all they care about, certainly not you and I.


dot zaeske
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 12:34 pm

I will send in our tea bag. I am glad to see my family is not the only one feed up with the government.


Elizabeth
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 2:00 pm

Maybe if greedy Republicans had not put our country in debt we would not be in this situation. Stop blaming Obama for this situation.


Joseph Kuppich
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 3:13 pm

President Obama: I spent 25 months in Vietnam as a soldier for the United States. I am proud of my service there, and elseware around the world for 30-years.

You, and many like you, are slackers! You demand that others sacrifice so that you and your type can live the good life! I do not mind paying my fair share of the tax burden, but I do not like to pay the 'slacker's' share. Our laws are written by intellectuals for intellectuals so that they can legally steal us blind. You know what I mean…Joe Kuppich


Carolann
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 3:28 pm

I am a Democrat who is disgusted by what we Dems have been doing! Do the research. Seek the truth and don't follow the current bias media. I found the truth by doing HONEST research, sister. Truthfullly, it was the Dems that started all of our problems before the war……Sorry, but it is TRUE!!!!!


Carolann
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 3:34 pm

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW. Washington, DC 20500

thanks!


Carolann
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 3:35 pm

Send your tea bag, please…..
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW. Washington, DC 20500
Thanks!


Carolann
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 3:41 pm

I am a Democrat who is disgusted by what we Dems have been doing! Do the research. Seek the truth and don't follow the current bias media. I found the truth by doing HONEST research, sister. Truthfullly, it was the Dems that started all of our problems before the war……Sorry, but it is TRUE!!!!! STOP BLAMING BUSH! This mess started back in Carter's reign and followed up with the Clintons!!!! Once again, seek the truth, it's out there!!!!


Carolann
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 3:45 pm

Send your tea bag and Thanks!!!
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington DC


Roy
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 3:46 pm

A DEMOCRAT signed NAFTA, not a Republican. The best way to stimulate the economy is to put Americans to work. As a small business owner, I can not expand or hire anyone this year. Why? The government TAXES US TO DEATH! Get half the jobs back that are going out of country and the economy will turn around. Get the illegal aliens out of the country and the economy will benefit. To those who say they will do work Americans will not do, I say HOGWASH!!! I do those jobs everyday! AND I AM AN AMERICAN!


Carolann
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 3:57 pm

I am a Democrat. I disagree with you. Not by a landslide. This was clearly a populatioh contest. So far, he has gone against everything claimed in his platform….Such as line by line review. 5 day review of bills. He's pushing this stuff through without input! LOOKS LIKE COMMUNISM TO ME!!!!! this ridiculous. If you care about the future of the country, look at the TRUE FACTS!!!!


Carolann
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 4:00 pm

I do as well. They are saying that they have made a big mistake!!! Can't say that they weren't warned!!


Carolann
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 4:05 pm

I agree with you. I also have a small business. We can thank Carter for starting this!!! We need to stop this generational curse. I am a Democrat and HATE what is going on…We need to do something!!!


Carolann
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 4:11 pm

Sorry you have Pelosi as a “senator, congressmen”. What is the matter with the people out there???? We NEED TO GET RID OF PELOSI!!!!! THE SOONER THE BETTER. TAKE IT TO THE STREETS!!!


sickntired
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 4:11 pm

It's time to vote all these people out of office in 2010!!!! That is the only message that they will understand.
Great idea with the tea bags. Count on my family on this one.


Nikki Simon
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 4:23 pm

They're all greedy — Obama came into this mess he certainly isn't helping!!! Where's all the change? Where's all the hope? He's a vapid suit who just reads well from a teleprompter.

Socialism and class envy are NOT the building blocks of a successful democracy….until the Republicans in office get back to their roots, the liberals will jam every spending bill down our throats.

Watch out, 2010 will be a different story……


Nikki Simon
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 4:30 pm

Touche Carolann….I'm a realtor and I have researched this back to Carter….it got bigger and better with Clinton…the Republicans tried to question Freddie and Fannie, but were summarily dismissed by the Barney Franks and Chris Dodds of the government…..and heaven forbid the Republicans seem like they were “picking on” the poor, they didn't have the stones to press further lest they be labeled as racists. This is a mess and it will be years before we'll see our way out of it.


Banita
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 4:54 pm

It doesn't even have to be a democrat or republican thing. It is a common sense thing. Where are the values were we raised with? Nobody seems to care about right and wrong anymore. It is about accountability! We don't need to be bailing everybody out. We learn from our failures. That is how it is supposed to work. If these companies/CEOs are not allowed to pay the consequences for their actions, how will they ever learn that they have to do it right? Then you have the administration and senate that are just using “crisis” as an excuse to pass their socialist agenda and pet projects that they couldn't get through any other way. Why else did they call a vote on the stimulus/spending bill without allowing people to know what is in the bill? Where is the transparency we were promised? And since they seem to have shoved the stimulus bill down our throat, now they want more. I sure hope the tea bags get their attention. Mine is on it's way!


John Allen
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 5:10 pm

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Kathy
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 6:07 pm

I'm sending my tea bag, but if you want other options to try to get you voice heard, Glenn Beck is ralleying people to a party called “We surround them”. They are local groups of conserative minded people wanting to find ways they can help make a difference. Check out his web page, just google We surround them and click on your state to see if there is a group near you. Or have your own party. We need to remember the elected officials that are trying to ruin this country and make sure they are not reelected! And next time around make sure you know who you are voting for! McCain was not my choice, but I voted for him because there were way too many scary things about Obama. As for the Rep party, they better wake up, we do not want liberal or someone sitting on that fence, can't wait for the next I want $ call from the Republicans.


Leon Butler
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 6:19 pm

I am going to send my tea bag to Washington on April 1, 2009. I sure hope others do the same. I must be hoest and say that I do not totally blame Obama for this problem that we have, but I do blame our Congress, both Democrats and Republicians. The Presidnet cannot do anything with out the approval of Congress. I think that our elected officials think that we are not very bright, and they can pass what ever they want. I heard one Congressman say that the Americans do not care about the 8 billion dollars that is in this ominus bill and does not matter to them. I guess they have spending of billions of dollars is nothing more to them. We need a change…


Maureen
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 7:23 pm

I do not blame Obama for all this mess. It's been a long time in the making. It makes me crazy that the bigwigs go to Capital Hill in private jets and plead for money. Meanwhile in the real world, there are real people working real jobs trying to make ends meet while living within their means. Then there are the Jones' who aren't happy unless they have the biggest most expensive house on the block and they not only can't afford the taxes, they can't make the mortgage payments. Bigger isn't always better! LIVE YOUR LIFE SIMPLY!


Izzy
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 7:48 pm

President Obama has the opportunity to lead, he can not let Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid lead him. The current Omnibus bill is being debated as we speak, there are over 8,500 earmarks in this bill that this country can not afford. Obama stated that this bill was in the works before he took office, President Bush stated he would veto it because of these outrageous earmarks so the democratic congress held it over until Obama was inaugurated. It is a spending bill on government projects that has already been addressed in the stimulus package that was passed a couple of weeks ago. In the so-called stimulus bill some of these projects were funded with a 80-90 % increase, the omnibus bill tacks on another 8% increase on the some of the same stuff. Obama can veto this bill which is what he should do, but I don't beleive he has the courage to do it. In the 50 days he has been President he has leaned a hard left which is evident by the lack of stimulus in the stimulus bill. All of these projects need to be put on hold until Americans can get there feet under them. If President Obama does not veto this bill, I will know exactly who he is no matter what promises he has made or will continue to make. He will be Jimmy Carter 11and a one term President.


Izzy
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 8:15 pm

I did not vote for Obama either and McCain was not my first choice.. As Americans most of us are responsible, hard working, tax paying citizens. We live our lives conservatively, yet we elect people whose wheels have never hit the dirt and then wonder why we get in the mess we do. Most of our leaders have never had to work a hard day in their lives, they have never owned a small business nor have they ever balanced a check book. Yet somehow they can get up and give a good speech that sounds good and what do we do, we elect a bunch of educated dummies who have never done anything but give a speech to control our lives and our wallets from their white ivory tower.Sarah Palin a true conservative, who has business sense and actually had to balance budgets as a mayor and a govenor are trashed by the media because she did not go to an Ivy League college. She spoke like most Americans do with comments like, you betcha ,which really sent the libs into la la land and many of us bought that liberal bs hook line and sinker.. I would give my right arm to have Sarah Palin running this show, she has common sense which is totally lacking among the liberal elite. Joe six-pack can be her vice president. lol We would be better off than we are now. We live our lives conservatively we need to elect conservative leaders who won't waste our hard earned dollars. If this does not stop we will look like a 3rd world country in a few short years.


MIKE
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 9:11 pm

First of all, Obama said that he would use a scalpal to reduce government spending. HE could stop this outrageous spending, right now. VETO the spendathon, BARRY!!! But he refuses to do it saying that this is not HIS budget. Guess what, HE is right, it is our budget. IT IS OUR COUNTRY, WE DO NOT WORK FOR THEM, they work for US!!! IF he doesn't do it IT IS HIS FAULT! He has the power. Greedy Republicans and Greedy Democrats need to be unemployed for their actions. VOTE TERM LIMITS, immediately. NO OTHER OPTION TWO terms just like the president, no more. Barry you will be a one term president. Barry is only responsible for the death and mutilation of babies, not our economy. Wait a few weeks for the rest of his blunders…..


MIKE
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 9:29 pm

OK so the real issue is term limits for Senate and Congressman. Say good bye to career politicians., please!
Secondly, vote all greedy politicians out, now, especially Pelosi, she is an embarrassment. So is Reid.
Barry, you are next! 2012 Newt Gindrich! Intelligence and substance over well, I am not sure what you really are, Barry…..A child Killer! that is for sure. An abortionist killer….. Spending our hard earned tax dollars to kill foreign children, why Barry, why foreign children??? This blood is on all of our hands…..
We also need to limit the time frame of any national election to the year and only the year that they will be elected. This last election was a big part of our economic down turn. The mud slingging was out of control and it helped fuel a really bad economy. 22 months, Barry and you helped destroy public confidence in everything but you. Now what have you done? killed children and stem cell research. WOW, you are really a Liberal, child killing, mudsligging egomaniac……with NO substance to your mission. This is now the first real media president and they will destroy him if he doesn't do what they want, but they really don't know what they want, either. This is a really big mess.

Time frame began in the Carter administration when they began this philosophical matra that every man deserved his own home……IT really doesn't matter if he can or will pay for it, just that he deserves it… Secondly now Barry wants to give this same person free health care, too. why? HE deserves it.. OH yes, his children now deserve free education too! Don't forget the extinct mice that need our $30,000,000 gift in San Francisco….. Wow, Pelosi you are a criminal flying around in your government issue private jet and accussing GM Execs of abuse when you are really not bringing anything to the table but costs…. nothing to the table. San Francisco you should be a shamed of this wasteful person.


Crickett
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 11:01 pm

AAAAAAAmen…I am with you and the rest of Amerucans except for the ignorant..that still believe Barry is going to pay their mortgage, fill their car with gasoline, won't have to work…these people are in for a surprise from their Barry. It makes you wonder how this “happened overnite”. To those who haven't noticed Nancy, Harry, Chris have been running this country for over 2 years now. I'm not sure if we have 2 presidents Barry and Nancy or really won the election, Nancy since it's obvious Barry is not the writer of any bill, he is a prop intentionally allowing the Dems to run the country with Nancy getting “their” agenda forced on the American people while he is running for second term. He is everything I believed he was a hand-picked Socialist straight out of the corrupt government of Illinois. I say to the banks and car makers let them fail and they will reorg and come back just like the airlines have always done. We were in a worse situation in the 80's with the bad loans made by crooks through the S&L's then. The banks were allowed to fail and became Citigroup and Bank of America today. Barry has renigged on every lie he made on the campaign trail ie: off-shore drilling, nuclear power plants and on an again….We have no business helping out poor countries overseas when we are becoming just like them..ruled by greedy, evil dictators ours being Barry and Nancy. I will be sending teabagS to Washington hoping people will take a couple of Minutes out of their lives to make their voice heard. In 2010 I will be voting for my states OPPONENTS guilty or not of wasteful earmarks just to send a message..That's my position..maybe some of these morons we sent to Washington will eventually get the message since I don't think they are smart enough to take a hint. I support limited terms and believe “ordinary people” could run this country since the people in Washington are not ordinary, they are rich and supposedly “educated”. I'd like to know what they are educated because it certainly didn't include any history books American or World histroy. I wonder how long it would take Tim and the IRS to send me a letter if I made a mistake on Turbo tax and underpaid by$.02 by the way, I didn't even express what I really feel and think.


Crickett
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 11:23 pm

Vicki see Crickett 3/9 ….Internet doesn't have room for me to mention everything on my mind but I agree with you too!


Crickett
Comment posted March 9, 2009 @ 11:25 pm

I will be contacting Shawn and Glen Beck


samjam
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 1:24 am

I wonder where it went America land of the FREE we are not free any more we are slaves to Obamas laws of bailing out t he very rich A$$'s who have more money than God and are still living high on t he hog while we pay off their debts I dont see any of us going to swanky places for ''free' lunches at the cost of the public


Mike
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 6:02 am

This isn't about party lines but pure greed by the lenders and the lendees. I wouldn't loan someone almost 100% to purchase their dream home. Where is common sense. When i came around you stayed within your budget, saved for a down payment which was usually 10-20 % down and then financed. used to be you considered your house by roughly what your annual salary was.

Back in the 70s a good starter home was usually in the $40 and that was the average for a married income combined. Today in my area folks want to purchase a 300-500 thousand dollar home on an annual income of $50- 100 thousand. Just doesn't make common sense to me.

And the kicker is the banks got nothing to take back when they default…
Mike J.


Izzy
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 6:09 am

I am going to send several tea bags. It is the fault of Republicans and Democrats, Republicans spent like drunken sailors when they had the chance, now with the democrats in control of the house and senate they are doing the same. Obama promised transparency and 5 days for Americans to read any bill that came across his desk, yet with that pork filled stimulus bill that will stimulate nothing but larger debt and the government it was passed without the senate having a chance to read it. Ridiculous!!! I say throw them all out and get some people in there who have some common sense and actual work experience. Obama needs to veto this omnimous spending bill and if he doesn't, he will be a one term president.


Izzy
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 6:16 am

In 1991 Clinton passed the fair housing act, which forced banks to loan money to people who could not afford to pay for them. This escalated, even Greenspan brought these loans to the attention of congress and warned them about this. They did nothing. Barney Frank was warned several times by McCain an others about Freddie and Fannie. Acorn a voter registration and community action group would harrass bankers if they denied people loans because they were not qualified. Yes, I agree that greed and the get rich quick ideology was with the banks, but where was our government to stop this nonsense. They both are fully culpable. Barney Frank is still in there as banking chairman. By the way some of that stimulus bill will go to Acorn which is under investigation for voter fraud.


Bonnie
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 9:11 am

It's not the Republicans …it started with the Democrats. And if Obama wants to do the right thing, for the people of this great United States, he'll use common sense.


George
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 9:53 am

I think it is about time we enact term limitation for all legislatures. Also, those not representing the PEOPLE should be voted out at the next election. Wake up America! Voice your concerns.


Jean
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 10:03 am

This whole problem started years ago when our mills, our pharmacutical companies, communication business, automobile industry….and many others decided they could make larger profits by taking their businesses out of the US to countries where people will work for lower wages, do not have polution control, etc.. I'm not against some profit but how do all these companies expect us to avail ourselves of what they produce when there are low or no incomes. Job training millions….to do what? Bring industry back to the United States. Start by cleaning up our own back yard….Washington, and perhaps this could be done by limiting elected officials terms.


Jade
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 12:14 pm

Its funny, for lack of better words, now, people want to start voicing their concerns now. Where were the peoples opinions 8years ago? Time to wake up America. This is a problem that has been going on for years. Not just in the last 50days. Help with a solution. Don't be the cause for more hate and discontent. Voice a reasonable plan and you too may make a difference. I don't know the correct answer. Maybe you do.


Centtx
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 2:04 pm

P. T. Barnum was right when he said “there's a sucker born every minute”. How else could America fund a bail out like this one???


Carolann
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 4:13 pm

Unless people take responsibility, change can not happen. We have to admit to our mistakes. Unfortunately the media is bias and will not report the truth. Seek the truth. You must understand that the media is owned by bias people, liberally so. I know first hand. If you don't report it the way the media company wants you to report, you don't have a job!!!! WE need more unbiased reporting!!!


Carolann
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 4:16 pm

It's time to get rid of the old “dead wood” in Washington. Pelosi, Kennedy, Frank, Dodd, I could go on….. How to do it? We need to find out how to get them out!!!


Izzy
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 4:26 pm

The omnibus bill passed the senate, another 410 billion that we can't afford, Obama is going to sign it, somehow I don't think that this is the change everyone voted for, it's more of the same old stuff just with different names attached.


Izzy
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 4:37 pm

This is an article in Newsweek today, it's starting to fall apart, we have another Jimmy Carter type president and it is showing up in just 50 days, God help us all.

Surfer that he is, President Obama should know a riptide when he's in one. The center usually is the safest, most productive place in politics, but perhaps not now, not in a once-in-a-century economic crisis.

Swimming in the middle, he's denounced as a socialist by conservatives, criticized as a polite accommodationist by government-is-the-answer liberals, and increasingly, dismissed as being in over his head by technocrats.

Luckily for Obama, the public still likes and trusts him, at least judging by the latest polls, including NEWSWEEK's.But, in ways both large and small, what's left of the American establishment is taking his measure and, with surprising swiftness, they are finding him lacking.

They have some reasons to be concerned. I trace them to a central trait of the president's character: he's not really an in-your-face guy. By recent standards—and that includes Bill Clinton as well as George Bush—Obama for the most part is seeking to govern from the left, looking to solidify and rely on his own party more than woo Republicans. And yet he is by temperament judicious, even judicial. He'd have made a fine judge. But we don't need a judge. We need a blunt-spoken coach.

Obama may be mistaking motion for progress, calling signals for a game plan. A busy, industrious overachiever, he likes to check off boxes on a long to-do list. A genial, amenable guy, he likes to appeal to every constituency, or at least not write off any. A beau ideal of Harvard Law, he can't wait to tackle extra-credit answers on the exam.

But there is only one question on this great test of American fate: can he lead us away from plunging into another Depression?

If the establishment still has power, it is a three-sided force, churning from inside the Beltway, from Manhattan-based media and from what remains of corporate America. Much of what they are saying is contradictory, but all of it is focused on the president:

The $787 billion stimulus, gargantuan as it was, was in fact too small and not aimed clearly enough at only immediate job-creation.
The $275 billion home-mortgage-refinancing plan, assembled by Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, is too complex and indirect.
The president gave up the moral high ground on spending not so much with the “stim” but with the $400 billion supplemental spending bill, larded as it was with 9,000 earmarks.
The administration is throwing good money after bad in at least two cases—the sinkhole that is Citigroup (there are many healthy banks) and General Motors (they deserve what they get).
The failure to call for genuine sacrifice on the part of all Americans, despite the rhetorical claim that everyone would have to “give up” something.
A willingness to give too much leeway to Congress to handle crucial details, from the stim to the vague promise to “reform” medical care without stating what costs could be cut.
A 2010 budget that tries to do far too much, with way too rosy predictions on future revenues and growth of the economy. This led those who fear we are about to go over Niagara Falls to deride Obama as a paddler who'd rather redesign the canoe.
A treasury secretary who has been ridiculed on “Saturday Night Live” and compared to Doogie Howser, Barney Fife and Macaulay Culkin in “Home Alone”—and those are the nice ones.
A seeming paralysis in the face of the banking crisis: unwilling to nationalize banks, yet unable to figure out how to handle toxic assets in another way—by, say, setting up a “bad bank” catch basin.
A seeming reluctance to seek punishing prosecutions of the malefactors of the last 15 years—and even considering a plea bargain for Bernie Madoff, the poster thief who stole from charities and Nobel laureates and all the grandparents of Boca. Yes, prosecutors are in charge, but the president is entitled—some would say required—to demand harsh justice.
The president, known for his eloquence and attention to detail, seemingly unwilling or unable to patiently, carefully explain how the world works—or more important, how it failed. Using FDR's fireside chats as a model, Obama needs to explain the banking system in laymen's terms. An ongoing seminar would be great.
Obama is no socialist, but critics argue that now is not the time for costly, upfront spending on social engineering in health care, energy or education.
Other than all that, in the eyes of the big shots, he is doing fine. The American people remain on his side, but he has to be careful that the gathering judgment of the Bigs doesn't trickle down to the rest of us.

© 2009


Kathy
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 5:55 pm

Update – there are many Americans not on Obama's side; they haven't polled me yet!


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JAY
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 7:07 pm

OBAMA IS NOTHING MORE THAN A GREAT SALESMAN PROMOTING A BAD PRODUCT.


Kelly
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 9:37 pm

I wholeheartedly agree. My company is encouraging all citizens to let their elected officials hear their concerns. Our website provides links to identify reps & email addresses so there's no excuse. It's time for all citizens to participate and not look to the government to be the solution. We the people….


MIKE
Comment posted March 10, 2009 @ 10:39 pm

TERM LIMITS IS THE ANSWER


EARL AND JUDY MILLS
Comment posted March 11, 2009 @ 9:08 am

MY HUSBAND AND I ARE RETIRED. WE HAVE WORKED ALL OUR LIVES TO EXPECT PEACE IN OUR OLD AGE. THE US CONGRESS IS TAKING AWAY ALL WE HAVE PLANNED FOR. I FEAR WE WILL LOSE OUR PENSION, SOCIAL SECUITY AND OUR HOME IF THIS MADNESS CONTINUES WITH THE PELOSI AND REED GANG. I WILL DO ANYTHING I CAN DO TO STOP THESE TRAITORS. THEY ARE DESTROYING MY COUNTRY ALONG WITH THE FUTURES OF MY CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN


EARL AND JUDY MILLS
Comment posted March 11, 2009 @ 9:13 am

You are absolutely right. Some of these representatives have been in Congress since the Great Flood. if they don't represent the people, vote them out.


JEM
Comment posted March 11, 2009 @ 9:31 am

You are so right. Obama's language, posture and
demeanor, and the testimonies of his closest, dearest and nearest
suggest that the Senator is either a narcissist or he may have
narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). Narcissists project a
grandiose but false image of themselves. Jim Jones, the charismatic
leader of People's Temple, the man who led over 900 of his followers to
cheerfully commit mass suicide and even murder their own children was
also a narcissist. David Koresh, Charles Manson, Joseph Koni, Shoko
Asahara, Stalin, Saddam, Mao,Kim Jong Ill and Adolph Hitler are a few
examples of narcissists of our time. All these men had a tremendous
influence over their fanciers. They created a personality cult around
themselves and with their blazing speeches elevated their admirers,
filled their hearts with enthusiasm and instilled in their minds a new
zest for life. They gave them hope! They promised them the moon, but
alas, invariably they brought them to their doom. When you are a
victim of a cult of personality, you don't know it until it is too
late.
Obama does not even compare to our former Dubbya with accomplishment, but only with his narcissist traits. We are in for more than a roller coaster ride, America.


DAVID HARRIS
Comment posted March 11, 2009 @ 9:32 am

ONE COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE;
IF I MADE 1/4 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR – I'D THINK I WAS IN A RECESSION TOO!!

COME DOWN HERE WITH ME AND MAKE $12,000-$15,000 A YEAR – YOU'D THEN
THINK LIKE I DO – I'M IN A DE- PRESSION!!!!


florence
Comment posted March 11, 2009 @ 2:46 pm

My/Our Country has been sold out…..im heart sick over paying, paying and paying for pork, and other companys msmanagement….im ready to revolt.


Lynn
Comment posted March 11, 2009 @ 5:01 pm

I AGREE WITH YOU , BOTH PARTY'S ARE GUILTY. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR MANY YEARS.
IT IS TIME FOR THE POLITICAL PARTIES TO WORK FOR THE PEOPLE NOT THEIR PARTY OR PAY OFF
IN PORK.


Izzy
Comment posted March 11, 2009 @ 7:38 pm

Don't forget to send in you tea bag, tell all your freinds and family. I have not talked to one person who is happy with the government or the way congress is spending our tax dollars. Obama is nothing but another Jimmy Carter who can give a great speech but is no leader, he is a follower of the liberal left, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. He is scared to death of doing anything against their approval. He will be toast in 4 years. Hang in there people, conservatives are coming alive, in just a short two years we can change this and stop the insanity. VOTE CONSERVATIVE!!! Check the voting records of your incumbents, if they voted for the so-called stimulus or the omnibus bill vote them out, if they are conservative and voted against these massive pork filled spending bills keep them in. The conservative revolution is here and now, your tea bags and your votes do count.


Izzy
Comment posted March 11, 2009 @ 7:49 pm

You are not alone, everyone has been effected my this madness, hang in there, many of this spending will not be done for another 2 years, by that time we can make the change to a conservative congress, we can put a stop to this. There are few who do not think the same way you do, all of us have lost most of our retirement savings in our IRA's and 401'ks, 90 % of hard working Americans are invested in the stock market through our places of work. This is not going to go unnoticed. We have seen our equity in our homes lose 40% we have seen our retirement savings reduced by 50%, yet congress and Obama are ready to spend more of our tax dollars on failed bail outs, or pork filled so-called stimulus bills. Get ready Nancy Pelosi is already talking about another stimulus bill, she must have not gotten everything she wanted in the 1st one, she must want another 30 million for that mouse in San Francisco, that must have created all of 1 job. lol Maybe she can employ 2 people with her next stimulus bill.


Izzy
Comment posted March 11, 2009 @ 7:54 pm

You got that right. MSNBC a very liberal network which only liberals watch polled their veiwers on how Obama's first 50 days went, they were asked to grade him. Keep in mind that these are Obama voters, the grades were A-F. Obama flunked overwhelmingly. Don't listen to that 60% approval rating it's more like 10.


Izzy
Comment posted March 11, 2009 @ 8:02 pm

Keep in mind Jean that the same politicians who get up there and rail against companies who take their business out of country are the same ones who insist on a 38% tax on corporations. When a company has to pay those exhorbidant taxes why would they not leave the country. The U.S has the 2nd highest corporate tax in the world, they can't afford to employ anyone in this country. This means that for every dollar that a corporation earns they pay 38 cents in taxes to the federal government, where is the money to hire employees.


Joy Chessher
Comment posted March 11, 2009 @ 9:47 pm

Great job everyone…we must all stand strong on the foundation this country was built on…
GOD. Our freedom is being taken away, and we must stand together, and say NO MORE!!!! It is absurd that our tax dollars are spent for international abortions, paying mortgages, and unemployment benefits for people choosing not to work and have a free ride! The stimulus plan is not going to work…only will kill our economy. Send tea bags and letters!!!!! Also, I do have one question!!!! Can anyone answer why our Senators are allowed to have a lifetime in office if elected, but our President can only serve two terms. This is something we definitely need to request that they serve no more than two terms. It is like they have voted in everything that would benefit them, but not benefit the USA.. I am calling on all American heros…run for office!!! GOD bless America!!!


John
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 4:54 am

United we stand, divided we fall. Its time to organize and unify. We have sat back to long and done nothing. I doubt that any elected individual in congress is less than a millionaire. While we the backbone of America are getting our backs broken in order to save there friends who are also millionaires, from sinking. Now is the time for all AMERICANS to stand up and be counted. If you want to be part of this movement make the move NOW.


Rob
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 6:05 am

We have a long way to go but we will prevail and not silently tolerate anymore . Time they remebered who they work for at the end of the day . United we stand one nation under god for liberty and justice for all . the way it was intended to be said . Im more proud of this grass roots movement then anything else ive had the pleasure to be part of .


Nan
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 8:14 am

After we send Obama our tea bags, we need to send him and the Congress a copy of “The Emperor's New Clothes!”


Dee
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 8:32 am

Sure hope this type protest will help!! It is not fair [that we the taxpayers] pay others mortgages while we are foreclosed on….we all need to protest and pray!!! I live on a budget and it is day to day with no help from the Government.


Lois Siudy
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 8:47 am

It's not only the Dems who are arrogant – I watched on Fox news the putdown by the Republican Senator from Utah to Meghan Kelly. Where do they (House and Senate) get the audacity to talk down to ANYONE?! Watch out Congress and Senate – the American people are fed up, and you will know how angry we are when you get voted out of office in 2 years! Many teabags are being sent from my household – everyone please do this! And for heavens sake, let's get rid of Pelosi and Reid and their ilk!! This is sheer insanity and it has to be stopped – NOW!


Dick Puller
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 11:03 am

Guess who just discovered the underground economy,,ME I'm supplementing my Social Security checks by 500% by doing custom Plasma screen installs outta my 0% financing Ford p/u using a lotta Ikea wall treatments & buying supplies off Ebay. My customers are VERY PLEASED with my “cash only” good-guy recession pricing & I'm making more $$$ than ever. I hope that the government working sector (from meter maids to the president) enjoys seeing thisr checks pay my neighbors mortgage


Syl
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 2:35 pm

Yes, I completely agree with this – I want to yell and scream: “Emperor Obama is as naked as they come.” Without his teleprompter he sounds like a 5 year old in speech therapy. Queen Polosi is running the show – and running it into the ground while her Court Jester parades around in public trying to find a Moderate Taliban Jihadist to tell him his bedtime story!!! I doubt anyone is as stupid as this bad practical joke that the politicians are playing on taxpayers. He has surrounded himself with his peers – bedfellows from his years of dirty politics in Chicago – and now we can see the Senators for what they are. If the Republican Senators had any guts they would have stood up and walked out and refused one single dime of taxpayers money from this blank check Obama has signed. All they have to do is stand up and tell their constituents that they won't sacrifice their country.


Alena
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 2:49 pm

I've never been polled either. I don't know anyone that has!


P.L. King
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 2:51 pm

I will soon be 70 years old. Do you think I need to pay for someone's house, I don't think so!
So for all of you that think life is a free ride please ask me how my house was bought and paid by?
I have two sons and they have not ask any one to pay for their home, and I don'y think any one should pay for another persons home.
“Freedom it not Free”
Your debt it yours and not mine!


Alena
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 2:56 pm

Our company is closing early April 15 so that all our employees can go to the Tea Party in Baton Rouge La. We will be heard. I encourage all business to do the same, we can't afford not to.


Alena
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 3:01 pm

Our company is closing early April 15, so that we can attend the Tea Party in Baton Rouge La. This is not something we can afford but we can't afford not too. I encourage all small business to do the same before we lose everything.


Syl
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 3:03 pm

A fellow writer suggested that we should campaign for a change in the Administrative Branch of government and re-derfine how the President serves the entire nation. The Day after he is elected he should have to denounce any affiliation with either party and become the President of the whole United States of America. He should never be allowed to meet with any leader of either party without full press present. His term should be for 6 years with no re-election possible. All Presidents should be lameduck Presidents and their cabinet positions must be filled with 50% Dems and 50% GOP members. All congressional committees must have equal numbers from each political party. No Senator can serve for more than 4 years – and all nominees for the Senate should be randomly chosen from the population just the way we pick juries. The office should require a high school education minimum – so at least they could read a bill if they wanted to. Obviously there are a whole bunch of people in congrss who can't read. The Congress should be in session during the hotest time of he year, with minimal AC and guarded by Marines who bar all lobbyists. They should not be allowed to go anywhere until they complete all their legislative duties., and then they should go home and work their state. No trains, planes, or automobils until they complete their work in DC. No parties, no functions, no political mud baths and no “special perks”. During their mandatory servitude they should get paid the same rate as a U.S. Army soldier that was drafted to put his life on the line for his country. Being a Senator should be an honor – not a disgrace as it has become – and not the sign of a crook. I never hear any mother saying she wants her child to grow up to become a Senator – that is just sick!


Carolee Thomas
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 4:33 pm

Thank you for your efforts. My husband is an auto worker and is being asked to takes cuts. Our Senators and Congree people can vote themselves a raise anytime they feel it appropriate. Have recently heard that they will not take a pay freeze. Don't expect the public to have give backs when you won't vudge an inch. Also maybe we should start investigating all of their past taxes even if they are not running for the Cabinet. Maybe this would help our deficate. How is Hilliary able to give money to other countrys when we have such a large deficate????????


Izzy
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 5:14 pm

Is it just me or has anyone noticed how much Obama travels. He is briefing the press on Air Force one and seems to still be in campaign mode. He had to have that stimulus bill passed right away before anyone had a chance to read it then jetted off to Chicago to take his wife out for Valentine's day dinner..He didn't sign the bill for 2 or 3 days. He is traveling all the time, I wonder what that is costing us. He does not get up and go to work until 9:00am, Bush was at his desk at 7:00am. The man has never worked and here he is President of the U.S. Is it any wonder were in the mess we are in. We need term limits in congress and the senate, no one should be allowed to be a career politician, after 8 years you become corrupt. VOTE CONSERVATIVE AND DON'T FORGET TO TELL YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO SEND TEA BAGS TO WASHINGTON. WE PEASANTS ARE NOT HAPPY OUT HERE.


Jeanne
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 8:36 pm

New name for the President His name is Barack Obama his intials are BO . New name is Pres. BO because he stinks.


MILTON
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 11:21 pm

IF YOU RAISE THE PRICE OF BASIC COMMODITIES, (MAINLY GASOLINE AND OIL) YOU RAISE THE COST OF ALL GOODS AND SERVICES, DUH ! HASN'T THE MESSAGE SEEPED INTO THE BRAINS OF OUR POLITICIANS ! TOO BAD WE DON'T HAVE TEDDY ROOSVELT IN THE WHITE HOUSE. TODAYS POLITICIANS COULD LEARN A LOT FROM TEDDY R. ! LET'S QUITE THE POLITICAL BALONEY AND POLITICAL PARTY ONE-UP-MANSHIP, WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL OF B.HUSSEIN OBAMAS' GRAND PROMISES OF ENDING “POLITICS AS USUAL” IN WASH.DC. SOUNDED GOOD.
WOW ! WHAT A DIFERENCE AN ELECTION MAKES.


Barry
Comment posted March 12, 2009 @ 11:44 pm

If the Government can borrow money at 5%, most comes from China and Japan by the way, and if he pays 150 BILLION dollars a year, it will take FOURTEEN YEARS to pay off this NEW debt. (This assumes the Chinese will still buy our debt at only 5% interest.) This is in ADDITION to the big debt we are already going to leave the next generation.

If Uncle Sam can borrow money at 5%, and if he pays 200 BILLION dollars a year, it will take TEN YEARS to pay off this NEW debt.

If he pays 250 BILLION dollars a year, it will take EIGHT YEARS to pay off this NEW debt.

Lousy gift to give the next generation.


MILTON
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 12:00 am

THE FUNCTION OF LOBBYISTS IS NOT TOTALLY SELF SERVING. THEIR FUNCTION IS TO PROVIDE LEGISLATORS WITH INFORMATION THEY NEED TO MAKE INTELIGENT DECISIONS REGARDING FIELDS IN WHICH THE LOBBYIST IS AN EXPERT. CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS OFTEN HAVE LOBBYISTS TESTIFY BEFORE COMMITEES AND SHOULD REVEAL ANY “PRIVATE” CONVERSATIONS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS HAS WITH A LOBBYIST. EXTREME TRANSPARENCY IS THE SOLUTION WHEN DEALING WITH LOBBYISTS, NOT PROHIBITION. I AM NOT NOW, NOR HAVE I EVER BEEN A LOBBYIST.


mickster
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 12:07 am

im in for whatevear it takes, no bull s…….t to me it might be the time to stand up and fight, and i mean it . and im ready.. ak mick..


Patriot
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 1:02 am

Syl, I think you have pretty much come up with the answer needed in Washington. I couldn't have said it better !!!! Great Piece…. GOD Bless & keep em coming!!!!!!


Izzy
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 7:02 am

I beleive that our great, great grandchildren will inherirt this debt, the government rarely tightens their belts. Newt Gingrich dragged the Clinton administration kicking and screaming to a balanced budget. Those were some good old days when we had conservatives running the show. We desperately need that again. If the Republicans throw up another moderate like John McCain we will be toast again, we need conservatives. Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney and people like them are the ones we need to support. We need to get that message to the RNC and Michael Steele, conservatives did not support a McCain presidency and they will not line up behind another moderate candidate.


Izzy
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 7:11 am

Good for you, tear them up and send a strong message, no one is happy with what's going on and I don't beleive for one minute that the polls showing Obama with a 63% approval rating are correct at all. Even the liberals like Whoppi is chewing her nails over his new tax policies. The hollywood left is even going to start paying real attention when they get their tax bill and realize that they will be lucky to keep .30 on their dollar earned. California could go red in a couple of years, they are bankrupt, talking about laying off 5,200 teachers, yet they won't let anyone drill off shore., In one sweep of the pen they could get out of this by leasing off shore. They could put thousands back to work. The pipe would not even show and could be done without even seeing oil platforms out there, The wacko environmentalists are still running this country.


Izzy
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 7:15 am

Don't forget to get rid of Barney Frank , Chris Dodd, Senator Kerry, Senator Kennedy, Senator McCain and any career politician has got to go, they have done this country far more harm than good.


Izzy
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 9:47 am

I urge all of you to e-mail chaiman@gop.com and let them know that they need to support conservative candidates or we Americans will form our own party. McCain was a joke. The minute the GOP nominated him I knew this election was over and Obama would win. I did vote for McCain, because he had Sarah Palin on the ticket and he was the lesser of two evils. McCain did not excite the conservative vote, they either stayed home or they voted the Obama ticket.


K
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 10:08 am

The comment under these pictures are very derogatory towards this protest. I knew the media was very much for Obama but this is ridiculous


Al
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 10:18 am

I recently watched the interview with Obama on air force 1, he said that we needed to have another 700 billion stimulus bill after this stimilus to get things going again. I think he is just a puppet someone is pulling this idiots strings, and they want this country to crash, I don't know why maybe to take us into the new world government run by them. Who can some of these people be? I bet George Soros is one of them.


Al
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 10:21 am

I wonder what Keith Oberman thinks of Obama now? Keith Oberman is such a joke on MSNBC and what is that thing he does with his eyebrows, like he is going to frown everyone into his way of thinking.


Patty
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 10:34 am

“we Americans”??? Speak for yourself. I'm American and support Obama. Palin is ignorant of the issues and I do not support her agenda at all.


Al
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 10:34 am

Obama is a democrat who knows how to spend, But he doesn't have a clue as to how to get us out of this mess. Look at his background, he has no experience and therefore has no business being President. The democrats cannot spend us out of debt. It's one thing if they were trying to create jobs with this stimulus, I don't even mind helping my neighbor. But I hate the earmarks, why do they always do that, 30 million for Pelosi's mice. come on. And I hate the lobbyists. Any time lobbyists get involved the senator lines their pockets with the lobbyists money. So of course they do what the lobbyist wants. I'm sick of it. We need honesty in the government.


Al
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 10:37 am

Jade, give off this site, if all you want to do is blame everything on Bush again. This is a site for people to come together to show this government how we feel.


Jerry O'Neal
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 10:39 am

I agree! good post, and if a President or Congress person breaks the law then it's off to jail for them.

As for me, the Constitution is second only to my faith, it is sacred, if we can't stand on it, then where is the sacred ground?
So if that is true and it is for me, then Obama must up hold it, and so should our Congress people, and the Supreme Court should enforce it.
Therefore, then why can't we insist on seeing Obama's proof of Birth and why won't the Court hear the case, is not our Constitution still in force? I remember that thousands of men and women died to give us our rights, and I think this is something to add on to the Tea Party. If you know that something I wrote is wrong, please please set me right…thank you all.


Al
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 10:40 am

Carolann, so true. We need a media that tells the truth not one that just tries to push their agenda through. So far Fox news seems to be the best one to get the truth from. And maybe talk radio.


Jerry O'Neal
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 10:43 am

I agree! good post Sly, and if a President or Congress person breaks the law then it's off to jail for them.

As for me, the Constitution is second only to my faith, it is sacred, if we can't stand on it, then where is the sacred ground?
So if that is true and it is for me, then Obama must up hold it, and so should our Congress people, and the Supreme Court should enforce it.
Therefore, then why can't we insist on seeing Obama's proof of Birth and why won't the Court hear the case, is not our Constitution still in force? I remember that thousands of men and women died to give us our rights, and I think this is something to add on to the Tea Party. If you know that something I wrote is wrong, please please set me right…thank you all.


Patty
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 10:44 am

Hello-o! Obama's been President for less than 2 months, how could he cause this mess in such short time??? He's barely trying to fix it! How about your beloved Bush??? Wouldn't it make more sense to say that HE caused this mess after 8 years of being “at his desk at 7:00am”??
Btw, the senate is part of the congress. I wouldn't expect a Palin supporter to know this, though.


Bob
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 10:49 am

Stop listening to MSNBC and start watching FOX News. Maybe you will wake up and see the light. Or I should say the disaster.


Al
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 10:50 am

Limit elected officials terms, two terms and no more.


Al
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 10:53 am

Very good, A whole lot of these ideas are very good, That would make them serve the country instead of serving themselves.


Al
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 10:56 am

absolutely, that's another thing the government has done for us, taxed our companies beyond belief.


Jean Pierce
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 11:02 am

I wish I could've been there to support this anti stimulation bail out. The media isn't saying whats in the plan because they supported BO wholeheartedly and know there would be an uprising if we found out. So basically, they are keeping us in the dark, still paying themselves with OUR tax money, lectureing US on HOW TO CUT BACK IN THIS ECONOMY and they are sitting on the hill with all the luxury of kings. We didn't want a monarchy then and I thought we broke from Britian 250 years ago. Therefore, I will be sending my tea bags! I wish Palin was there to throw a wrench in congress' spending. I love her policy of having Alaskas “check book” online. I want to see MY TAX $$ SPENDING ONLINE, too!


Izzy
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 11:04 am

When you start paying attention to his policies and his spending practices and become aware that your great, great grandchildren will be growing up in a third world country because of this wasteful spending I bet you will change your mind. He has outspent in just 50 days what the Bush administration did in 8 years and Bush had two wars to deal with.

Sarah Palin has had to balance a budget both as a mayor and as a state governor, what experience has Obama had? Professor, lawyer for Acorn who is under investigation for voter fraud in several states. He is no leader, he will go down in history as another Jimmy Carter.


Izzy
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 11:11 am

Oh, I forgot, he was also a community organizer and the most liberal tax and spend senator in the senate for all of two years. You have been snookered.


Jean P.
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 11:23 am

I SECOND THE MOTION!! THE IDEA THAT HE “DENOUNCES ALL AFFILIATION” WITH THE PARTY IS INGENIOUS. AMERICANS HAVE PUT THE PRESIDENT IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS HOLLYWOOD CELEBRITIES, AND LOOK AT HOW THEY RUN THEIR LIVES. TOO MUCH EMPHASIS IS PLACED ON THE POWER HE “HAS”, NOT THE SERVITUDE HE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! BO IS JUST ANOTHER NARCISIST THAT LOVES FAME AND THE SPOT LIGHT.


Izzy
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 1:00 pm

You need to check your facts the senate and the congress are two separated entities, that is why we have U.S congressmen and a separate senate with U.S senators., congress initiates and votes on bills then submits them to the senate for refinement and votes themselves on the bills before they are signed by the President and put into law. Maybe you need to take a political science class.. Nancy Pelosi and the democrats have been in charge for the last two years, they have been the majority and look at the mess we are in now. Bush had to deal with a liberal congress and when that happens you have a lame duck presidency and a president who can't get any of his priorities to the floor for a vote. I am certain that Sarah Palin could give you a good lesson in the workings of the federal government, which is obviously something you are totally lacking in.


Izzy
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 1:29 pm

The above statement is why Obama will be a lame duck in two years and a cooked goose in 4.


Jean P.
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 6:37 pm

jOHN, I WOULD VOTE YOU FOR MY PRESIDENT. YOU SAID EVERYTHING THAT I’VE BEEN SAYING FOR MONTHS NOW AND HAVE GOTTEN “LOOKS”. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A SPLIT. I CAN’T STAND LIVING AMONGST PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO COMMON SENSE AND I DON’T SEE IT GETTING BETTER ANY TIME SOON. CONSERVATIVES WOULD BE HAPPY TO RUN OUR BUSINESSES, GO TO CHURCH, AND SUCCEED ON OUR OWN WITHOUT WORKING FOR THE IDIOT DOWN THE STREET.


Izzy
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 1:43 pm

Winston Churchill,” If you are 20 and you are not a liberal, you don't have a heart. If you are 40 and still a liberal you don't have a brain.”

Margaret Thacher, ” Socialism is fine until you run out of other people's money.”


Earl Gilbert
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 4:34 pm

I have always been under the impression that our government is by the people, of the people and for the people but now it is by, of and for Obama, Pelose, Reid, Durbin, Kennedy, Biden, Shumer, etc. It is about time that we return the government to the people which it rightfully belongs.


Barry Weber
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 4:35 pm

This is the greatest thing that has happened since Ronald Reagan! Finally we are sending a message that these people work for us! Not us for them! Yes, I am an angry American! If I would have known about this event, I would have attended! Let's go Americans! Keep me informed.

“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”
Thomas Jefferson


Izzy
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 9:07 pm

Correction, I had a typo in my previous post it is chairman@gop.com


Izzy
Comment posted March 13, 2009 @ 9:23 pm

Obama can't seem to get his economic team together, no one wants to go through the vetting process, so they keep dropping out. Wall Street has no confidence in the team that he has. The rise in the dow this week is good news for all of us, but it is a bear market rally and I bet it will test the low again and turn out to be nothing more than a dead cat bounce. Guithner is nothing more than a tax cheat, he attempted to write off his kid's summer camp as a business expense and stated that it was a mistake he made on Turbo tax. What in the world are we doing with a Treasury secretary, head of the IRS, who can't figure out Turbo tax. Any wonder why wall street has no confidence in Obama's economic team.


Cheryl
Comment posted March 14, 2009 @ 2:38 am

Your lack of knowledge about how your government works is why it should be a requirement to pass a test of the basics of American Government to be allowed to vote. There is no excuse for your kind of ignorance. If you can find this site on the web, then you are capable of finding information about how our American government is set up and how it functions. Go there and learn something. Voting for our government is serious business. It is not a popularity contest to pick the Prom King and Queen or a Student Council Officers. Passing a test on our government used to be a requirement to be passed on from 8th Grade into High School. Guess you didn't make it through the 8th.

No successful businessman that I have ever known came dragging in to the office at 9am, but are there early and stay late. You are an excellent example of the stupidity and ignorance that elected Obama. So happy to have you here to prove the point.


Gilbert C. Bange
Comment posted March 14, 2009 @ 7:39 am

Don't want to pay someone else's mortgage. Lower TAXES is the way too go.
It would help stimulate economy GROWTH !


E Zimmermann
Comment posted March 14, 2009 @ 10:28 am

OBAMA you promised to end the PORK yet you are going to sign a budget FULL OF PORK much like the BULL SHIT that you preached during your campaign.

Where is the bipartisianship that you promised ????????

Why am I paying other peoples mortagges and corporate bonuses???????????


Izzy
Comment posted March 14, 2009 @ 10:36 am

Project 912-go to google and search project 912, Glen Beck, make sure you type in Glen Beck or they will send you to a skull and crossbones my space site. Many Americans have been totally frustrated with the lack of response from the government about our protests of this out of control spending, Glen is addressing that. Too many times our congressmen and senators listen to special interest groups and ignore the majority. Glen is creating our own interest group, responsible government. It's very hard to get on this site, so many people are doing it that it is crashing the server. Good luck, let's go, we are the silent majority, but we won't be silent anymore.


annie3
Comment posted March 14, 2009 @ 10:37 am

Worn out with skipping medications, eating beans, and counting pennies every miniute of every day. Hate to waste a perfectly good tea bag, so hope it goes to a good cause. Help the kids. Help the seniors. Help the man in the street who should be working!


Lisa
Comment posted March 14, 2009 @ 11:25 am

I think the government has lost all common sense. If it is our tax dollars is needed in order help stimulate the economy it doesn't make sense to take it OUT of our pockets and distribute it to the ones who have been draining it to begin with. It should go back to us directly. If WE Americans have the money to spend in OUR pockets we will spend it. It is a direct line to the economy. It is like an I.V. put directly into the vein which gets into the blood stream where it is needed most. It is faster and more likely to cure the sickness. It is already been proven in the past weeks that by taking our money, our kids' money, etc, and given it to bailout the ones who are inefficient with their books is like giving the sick economy a placebo pill with the hopes it may get better…eventually. It doesn't work. We Americans need to stand together and be the cure to this disease. We need to rid the cause of the sickness, the Government, the greedy CEO's, the multi-billion dollar corporations who lay off their employees because they only made a profit of 6 million instead of the 7 million from last year. They claim they have a loss so they decide to cut back in order to show a higher profit margin. These reports freak everyone out and BOOM! The stockmarket goes to pieces. They think we are idiots and don't know right from wrong. We are only the little people and don't know what is going on. Beware of the wolf,(Obama) who wears sheeps clothing. Pretends he is at our level and understands what we are going through by using his family members as ploys to get us to feel sorry for him when all he wanted was a vote. I didn't fall for it. A true leader will not only say what he will do, but show it leading by example. So far his leading and examples are what got the economy in the shape it is in now. OVERSPENDING.

I have my envelopes and tea bags ready to go. It may not do much but it is better than NOT doing anything but sitting back and watching our future be destroyed by idiots.

(Sorry for the soapbox.) Once I get started…it is hard to stop.


Izzy
Comment posted March 14, 2009 @ 12:47 pm

I don't mind reading your soapbox at all. Very few of these politicians are at our level, many have never had to work a real job, balance a checkbook, be responsible, etc. It is showing, you are not alone, hang in there. The conservative revolution is coming, the news media, even Fox, is not showing whats going on right under their noses. The peasants, that's us, are madder than I have ever seen in my life. We are the great silent majority and that silence is going to end very soon. I think that these politicians think the public is sooooo stupid that we are unaware of the these porkulus bills and bailouts, We are not.

Fox reported earlier that congress's approval rating is at 39%, I would really like to know where these polls are being taken, because I know of no one and I talk to many people, including Obama voters, that are down right disgusted with him and congress. In fact, my daughter and neice and their husbands all voted for Obama and they are all changing parties. They realize that he lied to them all along, he is nothing more than a puppet for Pelosi and Reid.


Lisa
Comment posted March 14, 2009 @ 1:53 pm

I, too, would like to know where these polls are? I would also like to know who is actually being allowed to take part in the polls. Perhaps, one of us can create a poll and provide true and actual rating for these polls. lol

My sister, her husband, and his family all voted for Obama. One month ago, my brother-in-law was laid off and now is drawing unemployment. I hope they now realize exactly what their decision possibly led to and maybe they will think twice what their future decisions are.


Carolee Thomas
Comment posted March 14, 2009 @ 3:29 pm

I would like to hold our congressmen and senators accountable for their attendance records. If you or I are out of work sick or for other reasons, we suffer disciplinary actions. They serve one term or less and have benefits for themselves and their spouses for the rest of their lives. They are asking the American people to carry the whole load.


Kathy
Comment posted March 14, 2009 @ 11:17 pm

OBMA: One Big Mistake America!!!!!


Danielle
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 7:38 am

I's not so sure quite yet, he walked in to a disaster.


Mickey Mouse
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 8:21 am

This is SLAVERY in the reverse content. The Black run the white house and we the white pay for it. We have no one to blame but each of us for not standing as a group. What i want to know is when is the revolution going to take place.


Scott Laman, American taxpayer
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 12:29 pm

What would happen if every conservative, wait, even half of us went to our h.r. people at our jobs and claimed 'exempt' on our W4's? Don't you think cutting the flow of income tax (don't get me started on how unconstitutional THAT is!!) money will cause a panic in Washington? I say instead of sending the White House a tea bag on April 1st let's all claim 'exempt' on our taxes! The current circus of idiots that make up the current presidential administration would all take notice then!


jimmy
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 12:39 pm

One Big Ass Mistake America is the correct acronym.


Virginia Sitzler
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 12:45 pm

I can't believe how people could fall for smooth talk of obma. He reminds me of Hitler when he came to power in Germany. Should have be President of this country.


Izzy
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 1:43 pm

Yes, but he is making it alot worse with these spending bills. The stimulus is mosty pork, 30 million for the protection of a mouse in California, 2 billion for essentially a bailout for Amtrack. no money at all going to small business which employs over 80% of Americans. A whopping 12$ a week coming in the form of a payroll tax cut for middle class Americans, whopeeee!! A 410 billion budget that includes 9,000 earmarks in which Obama stated clearly that he would veto any earmark, he lied. He promised transparancy and yet rushed the so-called stimulus bill through the house and the senate before even one person had a chance to read it. I seriously doubt that he knows whats in it. That' s being totally irresponsible and if it does not stop it will bankrupt this country. China owns us now .


Izzy
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 1:46 pm

That's a scary thought, but I think as each day goes by and Americans become more aware he won't have a chance unless he moves towards the middle. He is nothing more than a puppet for Pelosi and Reid.


Izzy
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 3:27 pm

Sometimes I think Americans need this type of stuff to happen. I was in my late 20″s and early 30's when we had Jimmy Carter as President. I will never forget that, it was worse than it is now. In that 4 years I woke up and started to pay attention to politics and policy. Since then I am very careful with my vote, I really listen and check everyone's voting record to make sure that their ideology is close to mine, if it is not they don't get my vote. Obama is a great speech giver and it was rah, rah Obama. I think alot of people voted for him because they wanted to vote for the 1st black President. I could care less what color or gender they are, I want to vote for the best to lead this country. Ronald Reagan was and still is the best President I have experienced in my lifetime.


camper
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 3:42 pm

I could cr y and have cried over what those loonies in Washington are doing to America. Get the National Guard to cover the Mexican border. Russia did it to their border and they didn't even have the crazies on the other side of it. We don't even have a bank savings account as we foolishly handed over our 4 01K 5 years ago to Fidiality who give us $1400 per month which we can't save. I have saved the 2 $600 checks from the goverment which we received months ago as I need dental work very badly. We are both 75 years old and paid off our mortgage some years ago by caeful budgeting and cutting coupons.


Brian
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 5:41 pm

God Bless all the Real true Americans that live in this country. An American is Free to: Buy a home that they themselves can pay for. An American is free to worship God our father. An American is free to choose the school of their choice and what they can afford, it's not my job to put your son or daughter through school unless I choose. An American is free from paying for illegal immagrants who break into our country and expect us to pay the bills for them. They need to register and sign-in and go to work and pay their fare share of taxes like all of us Americans. Americans are free from having terrorism scum from entering our country and causing harm or threat to our people. Americans are sick of the 300 people that think they are incharge of us and remember that they WORK for our intrests NOT THEIRS.
This bunch of idiots, morons, out of touch jerks, creeps, punks etc.etc. have know idea what this country is capable of and they are about to find out that they have crossed the line. Americans stand up – Stand up and stop being so busy that you can't be bothered with saving the freedoms that our fathers left us. It's our responsibility to take the tourch and RUN WITH IT. This is our country, it's called AMERICA and if you don't believe in this counties Constitution or it's core beliefs and values for human life or marrage then there are other countries that you can live in. Here is your one way ticket.


Laura
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 5:41 pm

Laura in Oregon
As for me I'm just going to send the tea bag wrapper, it sends the same message, but I won't waste money sending the bag, plus the comment ” they need to do more work and not be drinking my tea”.

I've read the comments so far and agree with what has been written.


B-Man
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 6:33 pm

I agree that Capitalism has been the leading force in creating wealth around the world. A Quote from Margaret Thatcher that I heard not so long ago when asked: If Captialism and Free Enterprise were spread to other non capitalism countries, do you think that would be a bad thing our a good thing for those countries? She sat back in her chair and replied: ” If you can teach another human how to make even $ 5.00 on their own, They will kill the government.” You see when the human spirit is unleashed and the freedom to Dream is allowed to grow, Space programs that brought us so many things that we use everyday you can't mention them all, medical breakthroughs that have changed medicine and on and on. This bunch of power hungry punks think that you people out there (250,000,000 +) are too stupid to take care of yourselves. 300 men and women at our Whitehouse that we pay for, are controlling and destroying the very machine that made this little country less than 300 yrs. of age the most creative, most financially successful, and the most desirable place to come to for freedom and education etc. etc. fail These young people today in college that spew verbage with pure ignorance have never owned a business, worked 60-80 hrs a week to just make ends meet and yet they thinks because they have alittle freedom for the first time they are experts on how to better America. They do this under the very Constitution that keeps them free and insults what is in our Constitution. Get some life experience and get your teeth kicked in a few times and then you will know why our fathers wrote what they wrote and why. Under God's insperation and his words from the Bible they chose their words carefully and laid down a Constitution for all time. We just want to do what is comfortable and not what's right. This is how they keep ammending the Constitution. This person acting as President wants to destroy the fabric of what made America great. Where are the Patiots now? Are you out there? Patiots (Consevative American's) rise up and defend what is great and every day ask God to forgive us for exploiting this great country. Hit your knees and be Americans. Our founding fathers prayed every day for insperation and some of those prayers are engraved on the walls of our Supreme Court houses, and in our White House. They trusted his words so much they even put it on our money. We need to teach and inspire our young about what made this country great. But we need to live the lives we preach about. Every true Consevative official at every level should be put in a room and reminded that they again need to be someone people want to follow. Stop making desisions for popularity and do what is right. Stop cheating on your wives and husbands and families, your business dealings, and our country. If you can't be honest get out.


Yvonne
Comment posted March 15, 2009 @ 7:45 pm

Thank you! You are so right!


T.H. Holland
Comment posted March 16, 2009 @ 7:34 am

Ihope to live long enough to see all the people who have given our money to the operate the banks, insurance companies and any other recevers of bail out money after they ruined ther own busisness. I remember what you have done and I will vote againest you for as long as you and I both live.


Ruth Tysor
Comment posted March 16, 2009 @ 8:54 am

When a new president, immediately starts lying and ignoring his promises made in his campaign speech, and sneakes his signature on the very bill he declared he would not sign, how can he ever be believed, admired or respected again?


Djuro
Comment posted March 16, 2009 @ 2:10 pm

Lisa's sister and hausband and brotherinlaw all got laid off. They all voted for obama…so they wanted CHANGE and got it. AW…I fill bad.


Izzy
Comment posted March 16, 2009 @ 4:47 pm

AIG paid bonuses with our tax money from the bailout. This is what happens when you are is such a hurry that the ground work is ignored. Obama is doing his best to pretend that he did not know about this, he did, his own secretary of the tresury is the one who wrote this up. What hypocrisy for our government to grill and rake over the coals these CEO's, when they are as culpable if not more so for this banking crisis.

In 1991 under the Clinton administration they passed the Fair Housing Act, it encouraged Freddie Mac and Fannie May to buy the paper on risky mortgage loans. The government also went to the banks and harrassed many into making bad loans. Obama was a part of this with Acorn, Acorn would literally follow some of the banks employee's home if their person was denied a loan. These used outright intimidation tactics. I beleive that in 2002 Bush warned about these loans, as did Greenspan, McCain and others. Barney Frank chairman of the banking commitee ignored all of these warnings and did nothing to correct the situation. Now they all act like they had no part in this when in reality they were the cause of this. Creativity came into play when greed took over, and you got the adjustable rate mortgage, (ARM), Interest Only Loans, etc. In many cases you were allowed to purchase a home with no down payment, in other cases you did not even have to proove that you had a job. You could even buy one if you filed for bankruptsy, a bad credit rating meant nothing. Everyone thought that home prices would continue to rise and that they would be able to refinance at a lower fixed rate. Well that did not happen, home prices fell and with no equity in your home you can't refinance, you are upside down on your mortgage. All these bad mortgages were bundled with good ones and sold all over the world. Hence alot of worthless paper and no one knows how much worthless paper. Folks this is what happens when Washington decides that it is better at doing business than business is.

Don't be fooled by all of this, it all started with our government.


Izzy
Comment posted March 16, 2009 @ 4:56 pm

I have also written both of my senators demanding a full and complete outside investigation into what went wrong here. The only senator that supports this outside investigation is Senator Sanders and the government has effectively musseled him. The government knows who was responsible for this because if it were just the greedy CEO's of the banks those CEO's would be down river without a paddle by now. They do not want us, the American people, to know the truth. What hypocrisy..


Viv2813
Comment posted March 16, 2009 @ 7:38 pm

Carolee, sorry your husband's salary is being cut. My nephew is a mechanical supervisor for Peterbilt, an ex marine and fine husband, father and providor. He has been told he will be laid off
in April. People are living in their cars in parks, with their children and pets in California, so I feel fortunate that my husband and myself have our small social security income, although I feel that will be next to be taxed, and we pinch every dollar now! Hillary can afford to give huge dollars to other countrys. Sheand her husband are multi billionaires and probably considers it an investment towards being part owner of those countrys. If you want to know the real story, just take time to watch the video, The Obama Deception thttp://www.pyrabang.com/view.php?ref=dandan&post_id=19163&pd=4647&org=&visitor=true to see how high up the corruption goes.


Viv2813
Comment posted March 16, 2009 @ 7:52 pm

Jerry, ideally, nothing you wrote is wrong. We will never have the powr to insist on seeing O's birth certificate. He is the “chosen one” by the powers that be. Nothing can touch him. Even his past associations, everything negative discovered about him during his campaign was quickly swept under the rug and the media who are also being controled by Big Brother knew far better than to pursue it. His election was planned years ago and he was groomed for it. Unfortunately, so many well meaning people who supported him were so deceived because they truly wanted change. But that was part of the elite's plan as well.”They” want and are pushing for a “One World Order”


Goldust
Comment posted March 17, 2009 @ 9:34 am

And Chris Dodd amended the Stimulus Tax plan to guarantee the bouses to the greedy employees at AIG!


Gil O. Tine
Comment posted March 17, 2009 @ 3:07 pm

The French had a revolution to get rid of their big-spending royal bureaucrats. And to do a good job of it they lopped-off a lot of heads with their guillotine. We don't want to go that far, but maybe if we paraded
a guillotine of our own up and down Pennsylvania Avenue, the idiotic, big-spending, pork-barreling, socialistic, nitwitted, left-winging bureaucrats would finally wake up and realize that the American people are fed up. We are not going to take it anymore !!!!! Let them say goodbye to their pampered jobs while
we clean house and elect a whole new bunch of faces hopefully from different political parties that we
seem to neglect. Let's give the new ones a chance…Libertarians and Independants take note!


Izzy
Comment posted March 17, 2009 @ 7:13 pm

I hope you all visit http://www.AmericanSolutions.com/jobs, I beleive that it is something that the majority of Americans can agree on, it has 12 American Solutions for jobs and Prosperity.


Kathy
Comment posted March 17, 2009 @ 7:24 pm

What we can all do NOW is to let our congressmen and represenatives know how we feel, especially if you happen to live in a state that has liberals in office. Let them know they will not have a job the next election and that you are not happy with what has happened in Washington!!! They won't like hearing they may not get reelected, and hopefully they will tone down this madness going on in Washington. Email them, write them, phone them…. Then even if things improve, get rid of them next election anyway, because they will never really change! Talk to your consertive friends and put something in motion, if enough people send the message they will take notice if only to save their jobs!


Patrick
Comment posted March 17, 2009 @ 9:09 pm

GOP = Grouchy Old People. It is so much fun watching the Republican party fall apart. One of these days the people associated with this party will realize that their thoughts and ideals are part of the minority of America. It is amazing to see how few minorities are in the pictures. Get real and stop being so mean spirited>>give this new president a chace to fix the last 8 years of total crap that has ripped this nation to shreds. Bush/Cheney will go down as the most corrupt administration ever. The majority of Republicans are hate filled, anti-inclusive, stupid, & ridiculous people.


Patrick
Comment posted March 17, 2009 @ 10:19 pm

Sarah Palin is a dizzy joke of a woman! A total bitch!!!


Izzy
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 6:54 am

Patrick get real here, it is not about Republicans or Democrats it's about the future of this country, we have tax and spend politicians in this country that are responsible for what is happening now, it is about conservative views vs liberal views, we have liberal now. Obama has lied to you about transperancy, giving us time to read a 810 billion dollar stimulus bill that will create few jobs and is full of pork barrel spending and another 410 billion dollar budget that has 9,000 earmarkds of which he said he would veto. He did not veto this bill he signed it after he campaigned on a promise to end ear marks. The senate and congress did not have time to read that massage pork filled stimulus bill before they signed on. Now we find that AIG which we bailed out twice now has bonuses going to the people who took it down, that was written in the stimulus bill that Obama pushed through. The adminstration is trying to fiegn innocense but don't kid yourself they have been behind this mess since the fair housing act was approved in 1991. In the end you could get a mortgage, with no job, no down payment, no or bad credit and have no intention of paying it back. Congress wrote the legislation for this program and strong armed lenders and banks into doing it. Ridiculous!!!!!


Zeek
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 7:07 am

Patrick,
Lay off the cool aid!


LCS
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 7:12 am

Why would there be any minorities in the group. They all stand to benifit from the handouts of this administration. They know better than to bite the hand……..As for the “boys” chance, so far it's cost the American taxpayer Trillions, the balance of a term is anybody's guess but most of us have seen enough already, it's time for him to go.


LCS
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 7:21 am

I'm ready to take part . Who else out there has the guts to stand up and be counted.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:13 am

Monday March 16th CNN, CBS & Fox news reported:
After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million in ear-makes was given to research so pig farms do not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
Websters Dictionary quotes a lie as “the intention to deceive”. Obama has deceived America.
By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hid his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men. And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:18 am

Monday March 16th CNN, CBS & Fox news reported:
After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million in ear-makes was given to research so pig farms do not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
Websters Dictionary quotes a Lie “deliberate intention to deceive. Obama deceived American.
By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hid his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men. And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:27 am

Monday March 16th reported by CNN, CBS & Fox, After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million was given to research who to make Pig Farms not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
5. Webster’s Dictionary quotes a Lie as “a deliberate intention to deceive”. Obama lied to the American people when he said no ear marks, no higher taxes.
By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian Adolf Hitler without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hiding his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men.
And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:28 am

Monday March 16th reported by CNN, CBS & Fox, After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million was given to research who to make Pig Farms not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
5. Webster’s Dictionary quotes a Lie as “a deliberate intention to deceive”. Obama lied to the American people when he said no ear marks, no higher taxes.
By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian Adolf Hitler without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hiding his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men.
And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:29 am

Monday March 16th reported by CNN, CBS & Fox, After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million was given to research who to make Pig Farms not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
5. Webster’s Dictionary quotes a Lie as “a deliberate intention to deceive”. Obama lied to the American people when he said no ear marks, no higher taxes.
By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian Adolf Hitler without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hiding his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men.
And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:30 am

Monday March 16th reported by CNN, CBS & Fox, After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million was given to research who to make Pig Farms not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
5. Webster’s Dictionary quotes a Lie as “a deliberate intention to deceive”. Obama lied to the American people when he said no ear marks, no higher taxes.
By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian Adolf Hitler without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hiding his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men. And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:31 am

Monday March 16th reported by CNN, CBS & Fox, After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million was given to research who to make Pig Farms not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
5. Webster’s Dictionary quotes a Lie as “a deliberate intention to deceive”. Obama lied to the American people when he said no ear marks, no higher taxes.
By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian Adolf Hitler without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hiding his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men. And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:31 am

Monday March 16th reported by CNN, CBS & Fox, After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million was given to research who to make Pig Farms not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
5. Webster’s Dictionary quotes a Lie as “a deliberate intention to deceive”. Obama lied to the American people when he said no ear marks, no higher taxes.
By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian Adolf Hitler without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hiding his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men. And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:32 am

Monday March 16th reported by CNN, CBS & Fox, After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million was given to research who to make Pig Farms not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
5. Webster’s Dictionary quotes a Lie as “a deliberate intention to deceive”. Obama lied to the American people when he said no ear marks, no higher taxes.
By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian Adolf Hitler without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hiding his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men. And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:36 am

I agree with every word you said. You Rock!
Monday March 16th reported by CNN, CBS & Fox, After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million was given to research who to make Pig Farms not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
5. Webster’s Dictionary quotes a Lie as “a deliberate intention to deceive”. Obama lied to the American people when he said no ear marks, no higher taxes.
By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian Adolf Hitler without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hiding his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men. And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:39 am

Brian you rock !
Monday March 16th reported by CNN, CBS & Fox, After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million was given to research who to make Pig Farms not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
5. Webster’s Dictionary quotes a Lie as “a deliberate intention to deceive”. Obama lied to the American people when he said no ear marks, no higher taxes.
6. By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian Adolf Hitler without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hiding his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men. And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:41 am

Monday March 16th reported by CNN, CBS & Fox, After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million was given to research who to make Pig Farms not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
5. Webster’s Dictionary quotes a Lie as “a deliberate intention to deceive”. Obama lied to the American people when he said no ear marks, no higher taxes.
6. By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian Adolf Hitler without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hiding his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men. And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:44 am

Virginia…it is about time someone compaired Obama to Hitler:
Monday March 16th reported by CNN, CBS & Fox, After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million was given to research who to make Pig Farms not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
5. Webster’s Dictionary quotes a Lie as “a deliberate intention to deceive”. Obama lied to the American people when he said no ear marks, no higher taxes.
6. By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian Adolf Hitler without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hiding his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men. And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:46 am

Scott exempt is a great idea. Monday March 16th reported by CNN, CBS & Fox, After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million was given to research who to make Pig Farms not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
5. Webster’s Dictionary quotes a Lie as “a deliberate intention to deceive”. Obama lied to the American people when he said no ear marks, no higher taxes.
By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian Adolf Hitler without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hiding his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men. And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 11:50 am

Izzy your so right:
Monday March 16th reported by CNN, CBS & Fox, After bail-out money was received;
1. Bank of America sent $ 7 billion to China for a construction project.
2. City Bank sent billions to France and Germany.
3. $2 million was given to research who to make Pig Farms not stink.
4. Obama was quoted as he signed the Stem Cells Bill, “The government has forced what I believe is a false choice between sound science and moral values”. *note the average NIH stem cell grant is $1.5 million paid from federal funds.
5. Webster’s Dictionary quotes a Lie as “a deliberate intention to deceive”. Obama lied to the American people when he said no ear marks, no higher taxes.
By ELIE WIESEL; Holocaust survivor and noted author; Adolf Hitler and The Nature of Evil.
This Austrian Adolf Hitler without title or position manages to get himself elected as head of a German nation renowned for its civilizing mission, hiding his demagogy. He came to power when Germany was going through economic crises. At age 43 this unstable paranoid imposed gigantic hope as an immutable ideal that motivated his nation. German society rallied behind him: the judicial, the educational, the industrial and the economic establishments gave him their support, but they did not see the hateful mask that covered his face. Hitler was beloved by the average German. He came to power in January 1933 by the most legitimate means. His Nationalist Socialist Party won a majority in the parliamentary elections. Violating the Treaty of Versailles which limited the German army to 100,000 men. And the Free World let it happen.


Derosa
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 1:12 pm

Patrick…Though out the election Obama supporters did not supported their candidate with intelligence cause, but rather with vulgar criticism, towards the republican candidates and to their republican families and friends.
I am very educated and I rescued two black children, yet I have been called uneducated, a racists, stupid and much more by Obama supporters.
You calling Sara a bitch is a perfect example of ignorant people. What have you done for the world?


Izzy
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 7:55 pm

Hang in there people after 2 years of a liberal congress and 4 years of a liberal President this country is going to take a hard right turn, it is happening, the underground movement in this country is flat tired of the failed bailouts, the liberal tax and spend policians and a government that is totally inept, overgrown and totally irresponsible to the people who put them there in the first place. We will go conservative and it will stay there for a long time, because even the Patricks of this world will see first hand what a liberal President will do to this country. This country survived the Jimmy Carter Presidency and we will survive this one. After Jimmy Carter we had the greatest President ever, Ronald Reagan and with him 20 years of prosperity the end of the cold war, he did it without even firing a shot.


carol kellaway
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 8:18 pm

Our senators and Representatives Should not be able to raise their pay, also think that once out of their government job they get no more pay other than their social security checks. Try living like the rest of us that have done real honest labor most of our lives. Why should we pay them when they finish getting their palms greased. Perhaps we should request that they live in a car with their family and eat handouts. Shower at the Y or don't shower, who cares!. One week may give them insight into the way so many people are forced to live. Another question, who pays for Pelosi traveling back and forth to Ca. each week in a jet. Is it her own jet or is that a rumor? No apartments available for her in Washington.? How long do we have to continue to pay for the President to jet around the country? He is one of the big spenders and might consider setting an example for the country and practise what he is preaching.


Frank
Comment posted March 18, 2009 @ 9:23 pm

Hey Patrick… Some one should smash your tiny little liberal head.


Izzy
Comment posted March 19, 2009 @ 12:18 pm

What a show!!! Congress votes overwhelming to tax 90% of the bonuses paid to AIG heads. What a joke, our constitution protects people agains this kind of action against individuals. It flys in the face of the law and especially contract law. If this occurs we are all in big trouble because the government will be allowed to tax to death anybody they don't like.


Patrick
Comment posted March 19, 2009 @ 12:54 pm

Frank>>>just proving my point! Violence does not have good results. Have a great day Frank. I used my rights to write letters to the editor in my hometown and a conservative fellow sent me threatening emails and I had to go to the FBI to report him. I wish we could all just voice our opinions and respect each other. Unfortunately, “liberals” are viewed by conservatives as enemies, not fellow Americans. You probably are against same-sex marriages too. The latest news report about births said 40% of babies are born to unwed mothers>>>do you like this? What happened to the “sacred” vows of marriage? Oh, I forgot, there are more than 50% of marriages ending in divorce. Hypocrites are not very forgiving of their own actions.


Alice
Comment posted March 19, 2009 @ 8:03 pm

Laura,
that is the best answer so far. Just send the tea bag wrapper. that way the Post Office wil not know what is in the envelope. I am afraid the dumb asses in Dc will tell the P O to destroy the mail with tea bags!


Alice
Comment posted March 19, 2009 @ 8:03 pm

Laura,
that is the best answer so far. Just send the tea bag wrapper. that way the Post Office wil not know what is in the envelope. I am afraid the dumb asses in Dc will tell the P O to destroy the mail with tea bags!


ben franklin
Comment posted March 19, 2009 @ 4:11 pm

the revolution is near !!!


Izzy
Comment posted March 19, 2009 @ 5:13 pm

The dog and pony show is in full swing. People this is what happens when you rush and sign the so-called stimulus bill without ANYONE taking the time to read it. Now comes the blame game, it's all of them except for the blue dog democratics and the republicans who voted against this bill. AIG execs will get their bonuses because they were written into the so-called stimulus bill which no one read. What a bunch of losers that comprise our government, what hypocrisy and incompetence and we want them to run our health care system. No thank you!!!


Izzy
Comment posted March 19, 2009 @ 8:12 pm

Obama has known since November that he won the election. He had to fill 18 positions on his economic team, he has yet to do this. He has one, Tim Guiethner, who will be pressured into resigning or he will be fired. Obama can't find economists or great minds of finance to take the job, he can't find the far left lunatics that would support his vision. We are in some of the worst economic conditions is history, job losses, people losing their retirement savings, losing their homes and yet here is Obama doing a Leno show tonight and betting on March madness. Tomorrow we may wake up to having no one on the economic team. Of course this may be a good outcome, as it would slow down the wasteful spending of congress. I for one don't think that this is the change America voted for because if this spending keeps up all were going to have left is change..


Patrick
Comment posted March 19, 2009 @ 9:31 pm

Are you sure your name isn't Dizzy? Mr. Bush (the worst president in our history) did so much damage to this country. It is time the conservatives got their heads out of their asses and started to breathe!


Izzy
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 6:11 am

Our national debt just was raised by the CBO (congressional budget office) from 1.6 tillion dollars to 2.7 trillion dollars because the government over estimated it's tax receipts. You think that someone up there would figure out that when we have this many people unemployed we are spending money to keep them from freezing to death and starving and that we certainly can't collect tax revenue from them. Anyone know how to spell INCOMPETENT. The fed printed another trillion dollars which will create growing interest rates and massive inflation.


Izzy
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 2:11 pm

Hey Patrick, does your mother know that you are on the computer again, you know how mad she gets when she finds out.


Patrick
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 2:55 pm

Izzy (Dizzy),

My mom is dead>>thank you very much. I am sure she was turning in her grave from 1/20/2001 until 1/20/2009 watching the destruction of her country by an idiot cowboy name Bush. You would probably have tried to kill her like Frank wants me dead in an earlier post. I don't want any of you conservatives dead, I just don't agree with your points of view. And by the way, I am in my mid 50's and don't need my mom's approval of what I write. Get a fucking life Dizzy!!


zach
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 5:57 pm

Hey Patrick:
I did not care for Bush either, but to make the claim that he destroyed our country is a point of view worth sharing. What exactly did he do, that destoyed our country? Obviously you have reasons for making this statement. Give us some specifics, I'm sure we'd all like to hear them. Enlighten us Patrick.


Freddy Suder
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 6:31 pm

It is not good when one party …let alone a liberal one……….God Help us!


nancy
Comment posted March 20, 2009 @ 9:56 pm

what damage did HE do.. it was clinton that made all those morgage deals with the banks that now come around and people can't pay.. give away tax money obama has put this country in the biggest hole not bush.. read a bit before you write that crazy comment


Izzy
Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 9:20 am

Winston Churchill, ” If you are twenty and you are not a liberal you don't have a heart. If you are forty and still a liberal you don't have a brain.”

Margaret Thatcher, ” Socialism works fine until you run out of other people's money.”


Sally White
Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 3:06 pm

Way to go! I live down here in the florida keys. A hot bed of socialism. I'm so tired of Obama bumper stickers. We don't dare state our conservatalism. Would love to have a tea party. Are there any more of us down here. People hate Fox NEWS .Talk about stick your head in the sand. Would like to hear from anyone with the same values of freedom, belief in capitolism, and the great American way.


Sally
Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 3:15 pm

I adore George Bush. And proud of it. He didn't do any of this. This was done by the crazy Democratic Congress. Obama and his crony thugs from chicago have a plan. To bring our country down and make it a third world country. Obama ajenda was evident from the beginning. He's not even an American. Have we been bamboozled! Barney Franks made this financial mess with help from Chris Dodd, Nancy Pelosi, and henchmen.


Izzy
Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 3:29 pm

March 20, 2009

Story Behind the Cincinnati Tea Party

The most inspiring part of the Tea Party movement is the shear number of average Americans who are getting involved–many for the first time.

Take Mike Wilson, for example.

Mike helped organize the Cincinnati Tea Party on March 15 and 5,000 people showed up. He was only expecting 250.

When Wilson, a self-described political novice, went in February to apply for an event permit from Fountain Square Management Group, the agency authorized by the city to issue permits for use of the square. He filled out a form where he was asked how many people were expected to attend the event. He wrote “250,” guessing that was about as many people as he could reach.
As the article says, Mike is not an experience political operative. He's just a regular guy fed up with irresponsible politicians.

“I never really thought I'd become this deeply involved in something this political,'' Wilson said. “But I have to say, I like the feeling. I like doing something to make a difference.”

Like Mike, you can make a difference, too. It doesn't matter if you've never done this before, there's too much at stake not to get involved.

There will be more Tea Parties all over the country on April 15. You can either help organize one or just show up and pass out flyers. Find out how you can get involved by clicking here.

Posted by Dan Kotman @ 2:22 PM | Post a comment (0) | Tags: All, Economy

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March 20, 2009

Story Behind the Cincinnati Tea Party

The most inspiring part of the Tea Party movement is the shear number of average Americans who are getting involved–many for the first time.

Take Mike Wilson, for example.

Mike helped organize the Cincinnati Tea Party on March 15 and 5,000 people showed up. He was only expecting 250.

When Wilson, a self-described political novice, went in February to apply for an event permit from Fountain Square Management Group, the agency authorized by the city to issue permits for use of the square. He filled out a form where he was asked how many people were expected to attend the event. He wrote “250,” guessing that was about as many people as he could reach.
As the article says, Mike is not an experience political operative. He's just a regular guy fed up with irresponsible politicians.

“I never really thought I'd become this deeply involved in something this political,'' Wilson said. “But I have to say, I like the feeling. I like doing something to make a difference.”

Like Mike, you can make a difference, too. It doesn't matter if you've never done this before, there's too much at stake not to get involved.

There will be more Tea Parties all over the country on April 15. You can either help organize one or just show up and pass out flyers. Find out how you can get involved by clicking here.

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March 20, 2009

Story Behind the Cincinnati Tea Party

The most inspiring part of the Tea Party movement is the shear number of average Americans who are getting involved–many for the first time.

Take Mike Wilson, for example.

Mike helped organize the Cincinnati Tea Party on March 15 and 5,000 people showed up. He was only expecting 250.

When Wilson, a self-described political novice, went in February to apply for an event permit from Fountain Square Management Group, the agency authorized by the city to issue permits for use of the square. He filled out a form where he was asked how many people were expected to attend the event. He wrote “250,” guessing that was about as many people as he could reach.
As the article says, Mike is not an experience political operative. He's just a regular guy fed up with irresponsible politicians.

“I never really thought I'd become this deeply involved in something this political,'' Wilson said. “But I have to say, I like the feeling. I like doing something to make a difference.”

Like Mike, you can make a difference, too. It doesn't matter if you've never done this before, there's too much at stake not to get involved.

There will be more Tea Parties all over the country on April 15. You can either help organize one or just show up and pass out flyers. Find out how you can get involved by clicking here.

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Patrick have you ever noticed how angry you liberals are compared to conservatives, every one of the posts I have ever read that are liberal call other people names, use foul langage, you name it. You all seem to judge things totally on emotion with little cognitive thought going on. You can rarely give facts to support your ideaology, they seem to all be based on how you FEEL at the moment. Liberals have little historical content because if they did they certainly would not support socialistic tendencies, because socialism one step below communism has never worked and it has been tried over and over and over again.


Izzy
Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 3:34 pm

Sorry for the double post, I did not think it took. Anyway this was a note on “American Solutions,” I think that Newt Gingrich, former speaker of the house is involved in this. I hope that you all show up at your local tea parties on the 15th of April. Go to “The New American Tea Party,” site to find out where yours is going to be held, if you can't find one start your own. There are millions out here that are in full support of you. My entire family is going and we are thinking of some very funny and fun things to do for this, it should be a great fun for everyone.


Izzy
Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 3:49 pm

Can we do a recall on a President???? Hmmmmmm

Obama Stumbling – Republicans Gaining

——————————————————————————–

The fickle political winds of DC are showing a decided shift in favor of the Republican Party of late.

Obama's approval numbers continue their slow but steady decline – with just 55% approval according to Rasmussen as of this morning – clearly the AIG mess, and perhaps even the somewhat odd Leno appearance, have hurt Obama in the short term.

Likewise, the Republicans appear to have gained the upper hand regarding AIG, with more and more reports pointing to the mess as having originated from Treasury Secretary Geithner's office, and then carried out by Democrat Senator Chris Dodd.

Polling indicates Republicans having caught up with Democrats in favorability among the all-important independent voting block – something the party has not done since 2004.

The Obama administration appears to be ending up on the wrong side of other issues as well, including the pro-Union card-check legislation, continued voter concerns over immigration, and continued agitation over Obama's handling of the budget remains decidedly split – though a clear majority favor tax cuts, something clearly favoring the Republicans.

In sum, Obama's current approval numbers are lower than most modern presidents at this point in their first terms. With the rising tide of calls for Geithner to step down, with Republicans forming strong opposition to Obama's recent request for a 3.6 trillion dollar budget, and a slow but steady increase in the media's stronger questioning of this White House's ability to actually lead, and 44% of Americans viewing the current President as “Very Liberal”, the future will likely prove far more difficult than Obama imagined just a few short weeks ago.

A very tough column this morning from David Warren, describing Obama, among other things as being, “seriously unqualified for the job of President.”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art…r_by_hal…

Rasmussen Reports™: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere


Izzy
Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 3:59 pm

Funny,

12:26pm UK, Wednesday March 18, 2009

A teleprompt blunder has led to Barack Obama thanking himself in Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen was just a few paragraphs into an address in Washington when he realised it all sounded a bit too familiar.

It was. He was repeating the speech President Barack Obama had just read from the same teleprompter.

Mr Cowen stopped, turned to the president and said: “That's your speech.”

A laughing Mr Obama returned to the podium to take over but it seems the script had finally been switched and the US president ended up thanking himself for inviting everyone to the party.

Mr Obama is an accomplished orator but is becoming known in America as the “teleprompt president” over his reliance on the machine when he gives a speech


Izzy
Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 4:16 pm

__________________
“The essence of the Liberal outlook lies not in what opinions are held, but in how they are held: instead of being held dogmatically, they are held tentatively, and with a consciousness that new evidence may at any moment lead to their abandonment.” -Bertrand Russell


Izzy
Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 4:38 pm

Another article.

AUDIT FINDS DIRE DEFICITS IN OBAMA BUDGET. Go to AOL News for this.

Washington (March 20) President Barack Obama's budget would produce $9.3 trillion in deficits over the next decade, more than four times the deficits of Republican George W. Bush's presidency, congressional auditors said Friday.

The new Congressional Budget Office figures offered a far more dire outlook for Obama's budget than the new administration predicted just last month-a deficit $2.3 trillion worse. It's a prospect even the president's own budget director called unsustainable.


Fedup in Vermont
Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 7:36 pm

I want out of this mess our liberal leaders have put us in!! I keep reading how we haven't given Obama enough time. Hasn't he done enough damage already. We have to take our country back. How do we impeach Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Frank, and yes. Obama? I don't want to be socialists. I don't want someone in charge who with his video message to Iran empowers them. Do any of you really think Iran won't take out Israel the first chance they get? He is an embarrassment when it comes to world policy. He makes us look weak .We hear nothing from him about Iran's nuclear aspirations, or how Russia is arming them,Along with Venezuela.The cold war is not over, putin is seeing to that. What about North Korea taking 2 of our journalists into custody and threatening us by going on full military alert, they are ready for war. China interfered with our Navy and is buying up all the oil and natural gas they can get at twenty dollars a barrel guaranteed for the next five years. Why are we insulting our allies and sucking up to the bullies of the world. What he did to the British prime minister was apalling!!! I agree with sally white. Is Obama is trying to destroy our country from within, He must be, I can't believe any intelligent person would make the decisions he has made. So the question is , Who's behind the teleprompter,because without it he comes across like a stuttering fool that doesn't know what to say , leaving me to believe he does not truly believe in is words or they would come naturally. He is taking us down on every front, Economically, defensively, world standing, and let's not forget shredding our constitutution to further their liberal agenda. Enough is enough ,we have let the liberals push us around and try to force their ideas on the country long enough, we've given an inch and they take ten miles. We must stand up. We surround them!! I love my country, DONT TREAD ON ME!!!!! God Bless America! If we stand together we can make things right.


GMODY
Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 8:03 pm

We are now under the thumb of a musilum dictator. We have an elected socialist/ communist in the white house with his SS Stormtroopers. This has to end now before it is toooooo late. Please ban Gunban obama


Patrick
Comment posted March 21, 2009 @ 10:27 pm

CONSERVATIVE MUMBO JUMBO ALL THE WAY!! The American people voted your ideals out and are wanting things different than what we just went through with Bush. Now that you don't have control, you are whining and bitching about the current administration. When you had control, whenever “liberals” protested and spoke their opinions, you called them unpatriotic. Now the tide has turned and the conservative/Republican movement is spiraling downword. The main problem is that you conservatives are non inclusive of anyone who has a different opinion. Yes, both sides are guilty of this, but conservatives are worse at accepting opposing points of view. Just look at the same sex marriage issue>>>I should have the same rights as anyone else in America, but the religious conservatives constantly claim that marriage is a “sacred” event between a man and a woman. Yet, the divorce rate and domestic abuse is rampant in this sanctity. The majority of pedophiles are heterosexual men. Bottom line is that heterosexuals are guilty of being hypocritical beyond belief! So, good luck in getting your “exclusive” movement back in gear. Bush did nothing prior to 9/11 (I still think he created it so he had something to base his presidency on). He lied and manipulated facts about the build up to an illegal war in Iraq. He trampled on so many of my civil rights and claimed he was keeping me safe. I honestly feel much safer with Obama and feel he will bring back some respect for my/our country after the disastrous lack of diplomacy by Bush. It is really sad that the conservative/religious/Republican movement feel that war is the solution for anything and everything. By the way, Republicans had total control for 6 years and the Democrats are simply cleaning up a mess bigger than the Valdez oil spill. But, in truth, it all started with Reagan who is the second worst president ever. He empowered the IRS, de-regulated anything he could, closed down mental hospitals creating the beginning of the huge homeless problem in my country. The Oscars had if wrong during his 8 years in office>>he should have won best actor every year for portraying the president. He was charming but very dishonest as well. But, no president will ever be as dishonest as W. He has killed thousands of innocent Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Have a nice evening “Fedup in Vermont” & Mr. Dizzy!


cindy lockwood
Comment posted March 22, 2009 @ 7:13 am

This government is just being STUPID. I am headed for SS and just know that they are spednall my money, and charging me to pay everyone else's bills. I can't afford MINE. We just need to get back to basics. get rid of all the fancy phones, cars, computers etc. The old way worked and we didn't have as mucg trouble with out children. They knew was the boss (mom & dad) and believed in GOD. The polititions are living for themselves only and we are paying for it.


Izzy
Comment posted March 22, 2009 @ 8:48 am

Patrick do you ever read anything or listen to the news. Your homosexual rant is beyond ridiculous, marriage is and always has been between a man and a woman. If homosexuals want to marry they can form their own union and call it by a different name, it does not have to be marriage, civil unions are fine.

As far as Iraq goes, for the last 20 years every president has warned about Saddam and his weapons of mass destruction, had Bush not taken out Saddam you liberals would have been screaming at the top of your lungs that Bush didn't do anything about Saddam and that he is a coward. You would have been marching in the streets with posters.

Bush didn't do anything before 9-11, he was only in office for 9 months prior to 9-11 and he sure did not do the damage that this President is doing. Obama is quadrupling Bush's debt in a very short time and with a very liberal agenda. It is a socialistic agenda, we now have a massive debt and we have not even started with his health care plan. Read the below article- his OWN congressional budget office is telling him that this debt is unsustainable.

Reagan was the greatest President, we had 20 years of economic growth because of his reduction, across the board, in taxes., He ended the cold war with soviet Russia without firing a shot. As far as him being an actor what about Obama, master at teleprompter reading, lied when he said that he would end ear marks because he just signed a bill for $410 billion with 9,000 earmarks in it. Told us their would be transperency in government yet rushes through a 1,500 page pork filled-stimulus bill that was submitted to the senate at midnight that they voted on the next morning without even reading, that was $810 billion. Chris Dodd, probably another of your favorites, wrote in this bill guaranteeing $160 million in bonuses for the failed executives that ran it into the ground in the first place.

This is all tax-payer money. I think longer about spending $20 than our great leader (Obama and his congressional hacks) think about spending trillions of our money.

I want a good future for this country, I want my children to have the same opportunity that prior generations have had. They won't have that should this out of control spending continue.

The silent majority has awoken, I will be at my tea party and I will no longer be silent about this.


Izzy
Comment posted March 22, 2009 @ 9:30 am

I agree and disagree with this article, Obama is Jimmy Carter 11, but there is no way he is going to win a second term.

Tongue-tied Barack Obama is turning into Jimmy Carter
Posted By: Tim Shipman at Mar 21, 2009 at 18:34:48 [General]
Posted in: Foreign Correspondents , Eagle Eye
Tags:View More autocue, Barack Obama, Humour, Jimmy Carter, michael wolff, Speaker , speech, talker

Barack Obama's gaffe mocking the disabled by comparing his (inept but improving) 10 pin bowling skills to the “special Olympics” illustrates the problem he now has in communicating with the American people.

Obama seems incapable of balancing the need to be a national leader and his childish desire to retain his image as the uber cool dude he so clearly believes that he is.

The fact that he felt the need to go on Jay Leno at all to sell his stimulus plan, budget and banking bailouts shows that he has communications issues. The public are not buying his spending splurge, or his administration's confused attempt to kill off executive bonuses.

Mike Allen and Jim Vandehei at Politico wrote a characteristically insightful piece on Thursday that began: “Of all the pitfalls Barack Obama might face in the presidency, here is one not many people predicted: He is struggling as a public communicator.”

Allen is the hardest working and one of the very best reporters in Washington. Vandehei has established a reputation, with his fellow executive John Harris, of writing pieces that successfully synthesise and lead conventional wisdom inside the beltway. When they speak, you should listen.
They point out:

The discipline and strategic focus of the campaign have yet to move into the White House. The story of the day often catches the president flat-footed or on the defensive – and regularly undercut by fellow Democrats.

To Obama's dismay, he is learning that successful presidential communications is only in part – often a fairly small part – about personal eloquence. It requires harnessing his words to a consistent strategy of public education. Obama needs lawmakers and voters alike to view the world through his prism, and to accept his analysis of what's wrong and his priorities about how to make it right.

They condemn Obama's “mixed messages” on the economy, alternating gloom and hope, and what to me is the most damaging fact that he is “too cool for his own good”:

Even when Obama went before the cameras to express outrage at the AIG bonuses, he seemed to nod to the contrived nature of it. During an East Room event, when Obama coughed, he drew laughter by departing from the teleprompter to crack: “Excuse me, I'm choked up with anger here.”

Obama has never run anything other than his presidential campaign. He doesn't know the difference between governing and campaigning and he's sticking with what he knows.

You can afford to duck and dive between great hopes, dark fears and confected anger when you get three news cycles a day during a campaign. But presidencies last four years and their legacies for centuries. It's not about winning every news cycle. You have to set a mood. Obama has been curiously slow to learn this.

Allen and Vandehei are not the only ones who have noticed that Obama appears out of his depth. Michael Wolff, America's premier writer on the media, a bit of a liberal, has just written a devastating critique of Obama's speaking skills, comparing him to Jimmy Carter and branding him a “terrible bore”.

Here are some of Wolff's highlights:

Sheesh, the guy is Jimmy Carter.

That homespun bowling crap on Jay Leno, followed by the turgid, teachy fiscal policy lecture, together with the hurt defensiveness (and bad script for it) that everybody in Washington “is Simon Cowell… Everybody's got an opinion,” is pure I'm-in-over-my-head stuff.

We're face-to-face with the reality, the man can't talk worth a damn.

This guy is leaden and this show is in trouble.

Wolff stresses that it is the president's sanctimonious self-regard that has shaped his inept message management.

Having been so successfully elected, he's acting like people actually want to hear what he thinks. He's the great earnest bore at the dinner party. Instead of singing for his supper, he's just talking-and going on at length. The real job of making people part of the story you're telling, of having them hang on your every word, of getting the tone and detail right, the hard job of holding a conversation, he ain't doing.

He's cold; he's prickly; he's uncomfortable; he's not funny; and he's getting awfully tedious.

He thinks it's all about him. That we want him for himself-that he doesn't have to seduce, charm, surprise, show some skin.

To some degree we have always known that Obama, while a great platform speaker, is not a great talker. He was a dreadful debater and more prone to be “on it” in one stump speech and utterly uninterested in another just hours later than any front line politician I have seen. But he was undeniably able to extemporise to good effect during the campaign.

That said he was always happiest with an autocue and Republicans are rightly now having a lot of fun pointing out his security blanket like reliance on the plastic screens for even basic announcements.

But since he became president, the old magic has been missing. Michael Wolff is right to say that it was wrong for Obama's fawning admirers to proclaim his inaugural speech a triumph when to me and most others who followed him during the campaign it was a flat, featureless disappointment with not one single memorable line–and this from the man who thinks he's Abraham Lincoln redux.

The most striking aspect of the Leno appearance is that while he's all smiles and self-regard, Obama is flat out not funny.

I thought Obama's speech at the Al Smith dinner last year was a triumph, his line about getting his middle name Hussain from someone who never thought he would run for president, one of the comedic highlights of the whole campaign.

But he had help from speechwriters there. Since then, while appearing amused by himself and his wisecracks, Obama has been spectacularly unfunny. The man himself might have a sense of humour- and it's clear that he has a wry eye for the absurdities of being leader of the free world (witness his riffs with Leno about the constraints imposed by the Secret Service), but the president himself is not quick witted. He mocks the oddness of being the most powerful man in the world, he never mocks himself.

Check out this piece on his attempts at humour and hear what Malcolm Kushner, co-creator of the humour exhibit at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, says: “”He doesn't use, like, real jokes. You can see he has a sense of humour, and it's there. But I'm waiting for the stuff I can quote and use.” Quite.

Comedic skills are not a requirement in a leader. As the piece points out Bill Clinton lacked the detachment required to self-deprecate with humour. Margaret Thatcher famously had never heard of Monty Python when she delivered her denunciation of the Liberal Democrat dove as a dead parrot, her greatest conference quip.

But what both of those leaders had was an almost mythical ability to connect with the public, a gift shared by Tony Blair. Clinton and Blair in particular had advanced emotional intelligence, they felt peoples' pain.

When Barack Obama says he is angry about the bonuses issues to the failing insurance giant AIG, he gives the impression that there is no boiling rage, merely mild irritation. More, that the irritation comes from the fact that his presidency has been disrupted by these piffling concerns.

As Wolff puts it: “The guy just doesn't know what to say. He can't connect. Emotions are here, he's over there. He can't get the words to match the situation.”

Obama seems more interested in maintaining his cool demeanour than showing his country that he cares. Bizarre.

Fine, you say, “He is cool and calm and collected, that's what we want in a president. He's a clever chap, a bit professorial perhaps, but he is very good at responding to new events and using these ‘teaching moments' to educate the American people. Look at what he did with his speech on race last year.”

But this is just the point, Obama's skills from the moment he stepped on the national stage have been strategic and reactive. He's fine when he's laying out some great policy he has spent months working up and he can be effective in responding to crises.

But he is absolutely hopeless at spotting where these crises come from, useless at predicting them and when they do pop along, like the AIG bonus issue, he is far, far too slow to act.

As Michael Wolff says: “The true secret of the power of language is in quickness. Barack Obama can't keep up. He evidently needs too much preparation.”

Yes, Obama made a good fist of his speech addressing the issues thrown up by the race row over Rev Jeremiah Wright, but only after months of procrastination. Don't forget he used his speech on race to defend Wright. It was only when the nutty preacher kept banging on about how America was spreading the Aids virus that Obama threw him under the bus. And even then he waited about three days to act.

Obama is flat footed. His detachment means he seems unable to feel the anger of mainstream Americans. Obama and his people seemed utterly bemused as well when he condemned Pennsylvanians as bitter about the plunging economy and reliant on God and guns. Again, it took ages for him to acknowledge that his patronising analysis was insulting to voters.

Now we've got the economic meltdown. Another opportunity for the “teaching moment” but Obama has failed to seize the moment. He has not made a major speech or a fireside chat with the nation to explain in layman's terms what is going on in the financial system. His efforts on Jay Leno were dull and laboured.

He speaks like the kind of lecturer who puts their students to sleep. His first prime time press conference (there is another coming this week) was colossally dull, with rambling ten minute answers.

Still don't believe that Obama is the new Carter? Michael Wolff writes: “It's instructive and humorous to remember that Carter ran a brilliant campaign that succeeded largely because his voice was new. Simple, direct, basic, human. And then, of course, he turned into a sad-sack twit.”

Sound familiar? That sums up Obama rather well right now.

His political career has been an essay in learning from mistakes and recovering. He is clearly intelligent and determined. He can be savvy. He might be irritating me with his every turgid, unfunny, hectoring pronouncement, but the American people still like him. I think it most likely that he will win two terms.

But it is a telling indictment of his first 11 weeks in office that the comparison with Jimmy Carter, a one term liberal reformer who was ultimately not up to the job, is no longer an absurdity.

Obama needs to loosen up, lose the smug self-regard, get angry and, at all costs, stay away from killer rabbits.

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Marge
Comment posted March 22, 2009 @ 11:46 am

Where is our media when stuff like this shows up? I'm sure some of them are honest patriotic citizens. Why are they not covering (and uncovering) this debacle?????


Marge
Comment posted March 22, 2009 @ 11:53 am

“Socialism works fine until you run out of other people's money” . What a true statement!! Way to go Margaret Thatcher!


Marge
Comment posted March 22, 2009 @ 12:01 pm

I feel so sorry for your children and grandchildren because of the debt with which you ( and people like you) are allowing them to be saddled. Here's hoping you come to your senses soon and help stengthen our country. God bless you and God bless the USA.


Patrick
Comment posted March 22, 2009 @ 3:03 pm

Dizzy,

You seem to have a lot of time on your hands! What givesyou the right to tell people who can and can't get married? By allowing civil unions, are you saying that these unions would have the same rights as married people? If so, I am ok with that, but if you think you are entitled to more rights than me, I will not agree with you on this matter. Can you explain to me why so many of these “sacred” marriages are ending in divorce and why so many heterosexual men are abusive? Just curious.

So Bush gets a 9 month period to not take blame on anything and Obama is in for 2 months and you are blaming him on so many issues>>>why does Bush get more time? Maybe because he was/is so stupid that he had to be brought up to speed by his horrifically corrupt VP. 2 oil men in the presidency is 2 too many! I had a small printing business during the Reagan years. He made it very difficult to operate with his big business attitude and policies. I also had the displeasure of having him as governor in California. He also was a terrible governor. Plus Nancy (a very mean spirited woman) took the china and ball gowns, which belonged to the American people. She came close to Barbara Bush as the meanest first lady. Remember Barbara's comments after Katrina (another terrible Bush event) saying that the people in the shelters were “at least better off”. Bush botched Katrina in such a huge way (probably because the majority of those who suffered were poor Blacks). I bet you don't even like the fact that there is a national holiday for MLK. McCain only voted for it in Arizona after being pressured to.

Anyway, Dizzy, you will have a tough road ahead of you with your movement. The American people are simply worn out with the conservative movement and their non-inclusive treatment of those who don't agree with them. I am glad you all are around because we are supposed to be able to have different points of view in America. You and Frank would rather see me dead. I welcome your opposite point of view. Have a great Sunday Dizzy!!


Izzy
Comment posted March 22, 2009 @ 4:59 pm

You wanna bet on that Patrick, people all over this country are paying close attention to this run away spending, this country will take a hard right turn in two years, congress will be in that hands of Republicans. In four years there is enough stuff on Obama already to kill any chance of his re-election. People will get a good taste of what liberalism is all about and believe me they are already smelling it, it stinks of socialism. That is definitely not the hope and change this country voted for.

I could care less what the homosexuals do, that's their life. But marraige has always been between a man and a woman, if it's a benefit package that homosexuals are looking for go ahead but don't call it marraige. If it's social security benefits that homosexuals are worried about, don't worry because it's not going to be there for anyone. Congress has gone and spent that money a few trillions ago.

Bush may not have been able to speak well, but believe me he was no dummy. Liberals are far too concerned with the way someone speaks or sounds and they assign intelligence to any who speaks well. I got a clue for you Patrick, not is not an all inclusive test for someone's intelligence. Obama is incompetent and you will see it through out his 4 years, I just hope and pray that we don't get hit again by a terrorist attack, because I do not beleive that he would be able to handle it.


wallnutt
Comment posted March 23, 2009 @ 4:21 am

You are LOST.As soon as you mentioned Conspiracy Theory you comment went to crap.The Dems are responsible for the economic melt down and they agreed on the intel and Voted for the Iraq War.You just want an Illegal Marriage and you cant think straight about any other issues..NO President (that includes your Massiah Obama) would plan a 911..You are sick!!


Izzy
Comment posted March 23, 2009 @ 8:27 am

Somehow liberals have been unable to acquire from life what conservatives seem to be endowed with at birth: namely, a healthy skepticism of the powers of government agencies to do good. ~ Daniel P. Moynihan ~

Someone must stand up to those who say, “Here’s the key, there’s the Treasury, just take as many of those hard-earned tax dollars as you want.”
~ Ronald Reagan ~


Izzy
Comment posted March 23, 2009 @ 8:32 am

I love Newt, he is the real reason behind Clinton's balanced budget, he drug Clinton screaming and kicking to it.

Newt Gingrich’s American Solutions Comes to the Tea Party

By:

March 17, 2009

Washington, DC–American Solutions for Winning the Future today announced their endorsement and support of the Nationwide Tax Day Tea Party, an event spanning the nation in over 150 cities and towns across America on April 15.

In addition to supporting the Tax Day event, American Solutions has joined the Nationwide Tea Party Coalition (NTPC), the coordinator of both this and the prior Nationwide Chicago Tea Party held February 27, 2009.

“The American people are fed up with Washington’s irresponsible spending spree,” said Newt Gingrich, General Chairman of American Solutions. “There are better solutions than big government and higher taxes to create jobs and get the economy moving again.”

“American Solutions is proud to partner with the Nationwide Tea Party Coalition to communicate this message to our elected officials,” Gingrich added.

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Izzy
Comment posted March 23, 2009 @ 2:01 pm

Liberals vs Conservatives

“While liberals are typically concerned with distribution of the golden eggs that the golden goose produces, the conservative is typically concerned with the health of the golden goose.”

Liberals seem far more concerned about social agendas. I wonder how concerned this topic and other social issues will be when they have no roof over their heads, no food to eat, no clothing on their backs, and no jobs anywhere.. I wonder if their social agenda rants will be so important to them then.


Izzy
Comment posted March 24, 2009 @ 6:48 am

The news is finally starting to report on these tea parties, this will help boost the turnout.


K
Comment posted March 24, 2009 @ 11:04 am

Reading the comments, sounds as if the conseratives are hitting a few liberal nerves; love it! I'm glad they are taking notice, hope they learn something.


GodHelpUs!
Comment posted March 24, 2009 @ 12:40 pm

Print, print, print! How much worthless 'monopoly money' is Washington going to make us pay back at ENORMOUS interest rates??? How stupid do the new boys in Washington think the American people are? Just watch ANY news chanel on a 'forced to go to digital' TV and you can find out any minute of the day! They ONLY report what the Federal Reserve wants you to know.
Please America! Wake up! They are selling us down the river!. The American people have got to take control! Make your voice heard! Send that Tea Bag!


Junie61
Comment posted March 24, 2009 @ 7:45 pm

I never thought I'd ever see this in Washington State. Boy am I glad people are coming together. The Politicians will start listening if American Citizens Unite.


LC
Comment posted March 25, 2009 @ 4:43 pm

Excellent Reply on this !


Patrick
Comment posted March 26, 2009 @ 9:52 am

Hey Dizzy,

I find your comments so divisive and will no longer participate in our communication. Like I said in an earlier post, I am ok with you having your own thoughts and beliefs. It is apparent that you and the majority of the conservative movement are unwilling to allow others who think differently than them simply live in our country. We are suppposed to be an open society. Good luck to you.

Patrick


t adams
Comment posted March 28, 2009 @ 6:32 pm

Patrick,

You are a liberal puppet and moron! You live in a make-believe world that bears no resemblance to reality! You see only what you are told to see and try to rationalize your stance on issues since you usually have no facts to rely on.


t adams
Comment posted March 28, 2009 @ 6:43 pm

It's too bad Obama just doesn't get it! To borrow a term from the “Peter Principle”, I'm afraid Obama reached his level of incompetence when he retired from his community organizing efforts! One of these days he might get it – it takes more than just a script, teleprompter, or eloquent speech to effectively run the USA!


Patrick
Comment posted March 29, 2009 @ 9:52 am

t adams,

There you go again. You and the conservative movement have no room for discussion unless the discussion is in agreement with you. You are more the puppet and I am no moron. I do read and keep very imformed. I even watch Fox News (Hannity and O'Reilly) to see different points of view. It seems to me that the majority of the conservative & Republican movement are the ones who do not read and follow their leaders like a herd of sheep. My world is very real. I am a survivor of the disastrous 8 years of W filled with lies and the trampling of my civil rights!


frank1066
Comment posted March 29, 2009 @ 5:58 pm

lets stay mad as hell all the way to 2010 , The american tea party i have been waiting for you for a long time
Out with the old and in with the new politicians for the hard working people and the small business owners


Rick
Comment posted March 30, 2009 @ 12:09 pm

Please keep up the good work. I'll be at our “Tea” Party in Mtn Home AR the 15th myself!! I'm a small business owner of 36 year. You're gaining more and more support too! BTW, I work 2 jobs and my wife works full time also for us to achieve our goals. Get off your #@& if you have a goal and quit thinking the world owes you a living you liberal lazy Morons!!! NObama!!


Patrick
Comment posted March 30, 2009 @ 2:59 pm

Rick,

Why are you conservatives/Republicans filled with so much hate? Is it that the majority of Americans voted you all out last year after the horrible Bush years and that your agenda has hit a bump in the road? Lazy people are both conservative and liberal. Have a great day Rick.

Patrick


Rick
Comment posted March 30, 2009 @ 5:47 pm

Patrick, The problem with what you say and believe is that the people that voted this socialistic attitude in place are the ones who either are worried about someone getting ahead or work harder than someone else and making something of themselves. Most of these are convinced the government should run everyone and take care of them. I didn't over extend my payments. I live within my means, our kids have respect. They go to college and work part time also to help pay bills. What the hell is wrong with that? I don't care if someone else is a millionaire! The USA has so many options to let someone be a contributing factor if they really want too. I'm tired of the cry baby “small Man” poor me syndrome. No one said it was easy. Could you imagine yourself 40 year ago? I could survive.. It's not the hate you seem to focus on. It's the fact that We live in a free world and EVERYONE needs to work and be responsible!! It has nothing to do with Bush you Yo Yo!! It was sure important that Nobama passed the abortion bill ASAP. It was sure important that “Gays” are NOT to be messed with in the military and civilian life. Oh Boy! It is sure important that we bail one of the sources the “Demo” bunch would NOT take responsibility for when housing when south. What a bunch of “kiss everyone's butt” attitude when the morals, attitude, and fundamentals of the USA are going down the tubes. The heck with minorities and special interest groups! We're supposed to be Americans NOT every other type of ethnic Americans. You need to be self employed with a small work force and have some government “force” tell you they will use your money to bail out the crooks.. This is a real world and I've put 36 year (no government help) in my business, family and college for our kids. Find some Sudo American to pick on you idiot! I also volunteer very heavy in our local community (Free of charge also). What's you're beef? I take care of my family, business, employees without the government helping. The cry babies, wanna be's, lazy people, and minorities need to do the same! It was a free world before!! Rick


Patrick
Comment posted March 30, 2009 @ 6:22 pm

Rick,

I am kind of amazed with your response. It shows me that bigotry and hatred runs rampant amongst a select few in my country. I am ok with other beliefs and am thankful that you are able to believe what you choose to. My problem with your comments are that you insinuate that I don't want people get ahead and that I think the government should run everything. Quite the contrary. I don't like some of the things President Obama is doing, but he has only been in office for a little over 2 months and is trying to solve so many messes that Bush created (it really started with Reagan). I don't want to give unnecessary hand outs to a bunch of lazy people just like you. I also don't think abortion should be used as birth control, but I do think women should have a choice depending on the situation. I too have worked hard all of my life and still do>>>I also volunteer a lot (probably not for the same causes you do)>>>and the fact is that Gays in the military are just as equal to serve as anyone else. They/we pay taxes like anyone else. You mention morals, but I think there is room for more than one type of morals in this country. You clearly do not think we all should live equally and it appears that you and the Christian movement are completely stuck in your beliefs. I don't have a beef with you Rick>>why can't you just let some of your hatred and bigotry go. I will never understand why people like you are so uptight and feel so affected by how others live. My life has no effect on yours and yours has none on mine. The difference between us is that I am ok with you and your beliefs and you have resentment to people like me who think and believe differently. Get over yourself and relax a little Rick.


frank
Comment posted March 30, 2009 @ 8:18 pm

Rick… I totally agree with you. I contribute, I volunteer, I donate, I work in my community, and at the same time do not expect this from anyone else.

I will give the shirt off my back to someone who is needy. However….

I have a problem when my government demands through legislation that I fund those who exist only for themselves, and those who expect benefits based on sexual orientation, racial background, or distorted sense of entitlement.

The hypocrisy shown by the left is staggering. Have you ever seen a cabinet more full of tax cheats and phonies? The bias of the liberal media, combined with fraudulent voting from groups such as acorn (now being rewarded by funds from the “stimulus package”) ensured a democrat “victory”

Stay tuned for midterms. It is going to swing conservative in a big way and fix obama's last two years as president.


Hopeful
Comment posted March 30, 2009 @ 9:02 pm

Why is it that if anyone disagrees with Obama's actions, they are considered a conservative? I've always worked for what I have and have three young adult kids that are having to work and one going to college. If I make poor decisions with my finances, who bails me out? Is it right to communicate to even our children that they are not responsible, accountable, or liable for their actions? Why do these companies feel “entitled” for bail out while they continue to waste millions of dollars, even AFTER the bail out money was given? There is no remorse, no humiliation, no gratitude. Then, they come back for more.

And the stimulus package…this RUSH to pass, and it will be all of us to pay. It's absurd to think that this package would be such a miracle to “fix” our entire economy but if it didn't get passed within the first month Obama took office, it would not be affective whatsoever. What a sales pitch! I didn't vote for Obama but when he was elected I wanted to stand behind my President and do my best to stay positive and support him. But there is just too much he has done in such a short period of time that I believe the American people will not only regret but will be paying for generations to come. And how will education of STDs (which is in the package) help anyone financially?

His charismatic ability he has had in the past and has used in his speeches made me WANT to believe that just maybe he could come through. He has only showed that he is somewhat like Pharoah, making people now make bricks with no straw. We thought it was bad, it's about to get alot worse.

And after reading these messeges it's interesting how all the name calling or adjectives used between concerned Americans like ourselves is pretty pointless. Like people fighting with one another on the Titanic.

I appreciate this website with it's belief, concerns and the right to free speech. Passion is what has made this country great. We can still make a great change and at least be heard with one loud voice together.


ALL AMERICAN
Comment posted March 31, 2009 @ 8:46 am

WEHAVE THE GREATEST POWER 'PRAYER' . AND WE NEED TO USE IT NOW!!!!


Craig
Comment posted March 31, 2009 @ 3:54 pm

Frank,
In regards to your statement…”Have you ever seen a cabinet more full of tax cheats and phonies?”…Obama was upfront with us from the beginning. He stated “It's time for change”. I guess I assumed it was going to be positive change….but negative change is change.

What do you expect from someone without any real experience? He's just putting Clinton's cabinet back together, because he can't think for himself. He's a great speech reader but when asked a question and needs to come up with an answer (see his last televised press conference) he can't put a single coherent thought together by himself. It's a shame really, that someone so incapable can be elected to the most prestigious leadership role in the world. But thanks to the braindead socialist left & their media he won. He has had the largest drop in approval ratings in his first 60days than anyother president. Truly amazing. I wonder when his pastor of 20years will be having dinner at the white house with Hussein Obama's America hating wife. She does wear nice dresses though and that's what's truly important. :)


Patrick
Comment posted March 31, 2009 @ 7:58 pm

Nothing but hatred from you guys. You are just mad that your thought process is now the minority and can't take it. Why can't you accept the fact that ALL Americans should have equal rights (not special rights). The only reason there are movements to change laws on many levels is so WE ALL get treated the same! NObody should have more rights than anyone else in this country. There are just as many lazy conservatives/Republicans/Christians as liberals.


Kevin Groff
Comment posted March 31, 2009 @ 9:05 pm

Patrick:

Ok, let's take this point by point…

Nothing but hatred from you guys.
- Not hatred, disgust…the current administration in running ramshackle over the very document that allowed them to be elected, and they all swore/swear an oath to protect and defend (The Constitution, if you were wondering)

You are just mad that your thought process is now the minority and can't take it.
- Really, the minority…the Electoral College may have been the majority, but not one God-fearing American could have actually wanted what has happened, to happen. Why can't the politicians see this? All I here is we won, you will do it our way…huh? That’s funny, the First Amendment of The Constitution (here is your Equal Rights) says i can peacefully redress my grievances to the Government…which by the way, derives its power from the people, not over the people…

Why can't you accept the fact that ALL Americans should have equal rights (not special rights).
- You are guaranteed equal protection under the law, not equal rights.

The only reason there are movements to change laws on many levels is so WE ALL get treated the same! NObody should have more rights than anyone else in this country.
- How about fairly, just rewards for just work?

There are just as many lazy conservatives/Republicans/Christians as liberals.
- This statement is a contradiction…there are no such things as lazy conservatives, etc…lazy conservatives are what the lay person would term Liberals…

Just my 3 cents…for what it is worth…


Jackie
Comment posted April 1, 2009 @ 9:06 am

New American Tea Party,
I just found out about your organized protest. Not one word has been hear on the news. Thank God
for the internet. Why are you not in Las Vegas? We are a city with many tourist that would help get
the word out. Plus, Obama is to visit our grest city on March 26th or May 26th. not sure. (after he
cost us millions with his bad remarks) Our Mayer, Oscas Goodman still has not got an appology.!!
There are many here who would like to hear what you group has to say!


Deborah Manning
Comment posted April 1, 2009 @ 10:06 am

I'm so proud that people will fight for their rights!


Patrick
Comment posted April 1, 2009 @ 11:01 am

I have some general questions for those on this blog who would like to reply:

1) How does same-sex marriage affect you individually?

2) Why are “liberals” so hated amongst conservatives?

3) Isn't it true that the large majority of pedophiles are heterosexual and usually a family member?

4) What did President Bush do that helped this country?

5) Are you unhappy that we have a Black president?

6) Why is President Obama not being allowed a proper time to make a difference?

7) Why are there so many divorces amongst heterosexuals when the take a sacred vow “Till Death
Do Us Part”? If marriage is so sacred, why don't more people fight to keep it together?

8) Does the Christian/Conservative movement approve of birth by non-married people?

9) What is the opinion of Sarah Palin's underage daughter being pregnant & unmarried?

10) Why doesn't “abstinence only” not work? Is it because of lack of education by parents?

11) Why is the conservative movement against adoption by single gay people and not
single straight people. Single straight people are more likely of child abuse.

12) What is the beef about stem cell research?

13) How would you react if your child was gay?

14) Is your opinion of Dick Cheney favorable even though he has a lesbian daughter?

15) Why do you opose abortian when a woman is raped?

16) Do you believe in the death penalty?

17) Why are the majority of conservatives/Christians so against fellow Americans having a different
point of view and why can't they simply accept other opinions and co-exist?

18) Why are so many Republicans of the belief that Presicent Obama is a Muslim and if he was,
why is that such a problem? The extreme terrorists are a very small percentage of Muslims!

19) Do you think we will ever be able to live amonst each other without hatred & bigotry?

20) How many of you are doing better after 8 years of President Bush?

Thank you for considering answering these questions. I am trying to figure out why we are so divided and can't seem to come together. I am a gay liberal who accepts all of you and your differing points of view and is thankful there are different people in MY country. After all, America is supposed to be a melting pot of immigrants. Both liberals and conservatives are guilty of keeping this country divided!


Erick Iconis
Comment posted April 1, 2009 @ 1:32 pm

1) How does same-sex marriage affect you individually? As our individuality is concerned it the fact that homosexuals are using a word (marriage) that has been defined thru time as a HOLY union between a MAN and a WOMAN. Call your civil union GAYAGE or HOMOAGE. Your asking to be more equal than others that started a tradition meant for their beliefs, no one else’s. Leave our beliefs and definitions of words that our god created alone and we will leave yours alone.

2) Why are “liberals” so hated amongst conservatives? Because Liberals today have strayed to what true liberalism is. Just as conservative want small government the founding liberals wanted the same. For government to be a liaison between other countries not to tax provider and hider the population to do as it wants along moral guidelines. Teddy Roosevelt would be rolling in his grave if he saw what liberals to day are calling liberal agenda. Gun control, NAFTA, The fairness Doctrine, The “Give” act. This is social fascism at its best, Look in your heart and be honest with yourself and turn your tv off and read what they are proposing to do to OUR (that means yours(“liberal”) and mine (Conservative)) Liberties and freedoms.

3) Isn't it true that the large majority of pedophiles are heterosexual and usually a family member? You for got rapists, Breeding Incesters, physical abuse. But this happens to every body no matter what politics and all should be put to death cause they have done something worse than murder, they ruined that child’s or person’s psyche and or life.

4) What did President Bush do that helped this country? Well they are far and few between, me being a conservative constitutionalist I don’t put any stock in republicans or democrats, but back to your question he let the assault weapons ban expire.

5) Are you unhappy that we have a Black president? I could care less what color he is as long as they can prove they are a naturally born U.S. citizen which is what I would as any and all presidential candidates prove before they are even a Party nominee. And Barack is just as black as he is white.

6) Why is President Obama not being allowed a proper time to make a difference? The time he has spent in office he has spent what G.W. Bush spent in 8 years, He is Bushes plan on steroids My question to you is why can you see or except that fact.

7) Why are there so many divorces amongst heterosexuals when the take a sacred vow “Till Death
Do Us Part”? If marriage is so sacred, why don't more people fight to keep it together? Television.

8) Does the Christian/Conservative movement approve of birth by non-married people? It’s not looked at as a positive movement in core values but every mistake is warrants a lesson to be learned and last I checked its unwed mothers popping out a baby every year that is the majority recipient of welfare in this country with no means or will to better their situation. A motto to live by “if you cant feed it don’t have it” –HUMANE SOCIETY

9) What is the opinion of Sarah Palin's underage daughter being pregnant & unmarried? In this great country it is not any individuals or groups right to dictate how one lives and prospers. If she is willing to except the responsibilities good on her, But is certainly wont be easy.

10) Why doesn't “abstinence only” not work? Is it because of lack of education by parents? Well if you don’t remember the democrats are moving to a state where parents will be committing a felony if they teach their kids without a State approved diploma teachers license, so the question is to the government schools (Public schools, for the ignorant out there that didn’t know that all public schools are run by the government) isn’t teaching enough about the severity of child and teen pregnancy.

11) Why is the conservative movement against adoption by single gay people and not single straight people. Single straight people are more likely of child abuse. As psychology is involved just as any child grows to understand that their environment is so-called normal. And fundamentals of procreation is impossible (without technologies help of ARTFICIAL means) to happen between a man/man or woman/woman relationship.

12) What is the beef about stem cell research? That Democrats what the tax payers to pay for it, they want it federally funded and hopefully you know that the government gets its money from the people through taxation. You want Stem cell research done? Then donate to the private enterprises that are already researching its development, don’t umbrella the financial burden on those who don’t believe that it is necessary, That is TYRANY.

13) How would you react if your child was gay? They would still be my child and blood and would love them just as much, is a belief of what they think they are. Just like being conservative or a Democrat or republican, it is the way I choose to live, and being gay is a way others choose to live, I could help it if my child want to be gay like I cant help it if you want to be a Dem/Rep. But as right got it’s an individuals right to live as the see fit without harming others in a moral and ethical example.

14) Is your opinion of Dick Cheney favorable even though he has a lesbian daughter? I have learned you can’t judge someone on their family members, But you can judge them if they allow certain parties to get away with thing one would usually not if they didn’t know an official.

15) Why do you oppose abortion when a woman is raped? Conservatives (true conservatives) don’t oppose abortion in anyway but one. When taxpayer money is used for that abortion, she wouldn’t have been raped if she had a firearm on her and knew how to use it.

16) Do you believe in the death penalty? Yes they is so much more utensils now a days that can prove someone innocent or guilty at the molecular level almost all argument for the death penalty have been addressed.

17) Why are the majority of conservatives/Christians so against fellow Americans having a different point of view and why can't they simply accept other opinions and co-exist? Funny I ask that about Democrat liberals too. Read Liberal-Fascism that could put things into perspective of why conservatives don’t accept your views as being viable.

18) Why are so many Republicans of the belief that President Obama is a Muslim and if he was, why is that such a problem? The extreme terrorists are a very small percentage of Muslims! Why haven’t the Muslim population held rallies professing that point. Why hasn’t the Muslim population stand and yell that is not what the Muslim faith is about? They have not proved otherwise. In a clip he sates that he was glad that Mcain didn’t attack his Muslim beliefs. From your messiahs own mouth that’s why a lot of the right believe he is a Muslim

19) Do you think we will ever be able to live amongst each other without hatred & bigotry? Human nature is bigotry when any of us walk into a room we see who is similar to us and who is different and we tend to drift towards those similarities we call them “friends”. Persecution has happened for millions of years and nature hasn’t changed much today, so no it wont happen until we all see the truth in everything and not just our biases.

20) How many of you are doing better after 8 years of President Bush? I’m doinf worse of 2 moths of oboma Than of the 8 years of G.W.

Thank you for considering answering these questions. I am trying to figure out why we are so divided and can't seem to come together. I am a gay liberal who accepts all of you and your differing points of view and is thankful there are different people in MY country. After all, America is supposed to be a melting pot of immigrants. Both liberals and conservatives are guilty of keeping this country divided!

P.S. Its not liberals and conservatives that’s the problem its Republicans and Democrats that are to blame. All have been corrupted but a few in each party and they don’t affiliate with the party, they are labeled by the media as part of the two parties. True liberals and true conservative have a bigger middle ground than the media has you to believe, we need to go back to grass roots to fix this country.


Erick Iconis
Comment posted April 1, 2009 @ 1:33 pm

1) How does same-sex marriage affect you individually? As our individuality is concerned it the fact that homosexuals are using a word (marriage) that has been defined thru time as a HOLY union between a MAN and a WOMAN. Call your civil union GAYAGE or HOMOAGE. Your asking to be more equal than others that started a tradition meant for their beliefs, no one else’s. Leave our beliefs and definitions of words that our god created alone and we will leave yours alone.

2) Why are “liberals” so hated amongst conservatives? Because Liberals today have strayed to what true liberalism is. Just as conservative want small government the founding liberals wanted the same. For government to be a liaison between other countries not to tax provider and hider the population to do as it wants along moral guidelines. Teddy Roosevelt would be rolling in his grave if he saw what liberals to day are calling liberal agenda. Gun control, NAFTA, The fairness Doctrine, The “Give” act. This is social fascism at its best, Look in your heart and be honest with yourself and turn your tv off and read what they are proposing to do to OUR (that means yours(“liberal”) and mine (Conservative)) Liberties and freedoms.

3) Isn't it true that the large majority of pedophiles are heterosexual and usually a family member? You for got rapists, Breeding Incesters, physical abuse. But this happens to every body no matter what politics and all should be put to death cause they have done something worse than murder, they ruined that child’s or person’s psyche and or life.

4) What did President Bush do that helped this country? Well they are far and few between, me being a conservative constitutionalist I don’t put any stock in republicans or democrats, but back to your question he let the assault weapons ban expire.

5) Are you unhappy that we have a Black president? I could care less what color he is as long as they can prove they are a naturally born U.S. citizen which is what I would as any and all presidential candidates prove before they are even a Party nominee. And Barack is just as black as he is white.

6) Why is President Obama not being allowed a proper time to make a difference? The time he has spent in office he has spent what G.W. Bush spent in 8 years, He is Bushes plan on steroids My question to you is why can you see or except that fact.

7) Why are there so many divorces amongst heterosexuals when the take a sacred vow “Till Death
Do Us Part”? If marriage is so sacred, why don't more people fight to keep it together? Television.

8) Does the Christian/Conservative movement approve of birth by non-married people? It’s not looked at as a positive movement in core values but every mistake is warrants a lesson to be learned and last I checked its unwed mothers popping out a baby every year that is the majority recipient of welfare in this country with no means or will to better their situation. A motto to live by “if you cant feed it don’t have it” –HUMANE SOCIETY

9) What is the opinion of Sarah Palin's underage daughter being pregnant & unmarried? In this great country it is not any individuals or groups right to dictate how one lives and prospers. If she is willing to except the responsibilities good on her, But is certainly wont be easy.

10) Why doesn't “abstinence only” not work? Is it because of lack of education by parents? Well if you don’t remember the democrats are moving to a state where parents will be committing a felony if they teach their kids without a State approved diploma teachers license, so the question is to the government schools (Public schools, for the ignorant out there that didn’t know that all public schools are run by the government) isn’t teaching enough about the severity of child and teen pregnancy.

11) Why is the conservative movement against adoption by single gay people and not single straight people. Single straight people are more likely of child abuse. As psychology is involved just as any child grows to understand that their environment is so-called normal. And fundamentals of procreation is impossible (without technologies help of ARTFICIAL means) to happen between a man/man or woman/woman relationship.

12) What is the beef about stem cell research? That Democrats what the tax payers to pay for it, they want it federally funded and hopefully you know that the government gets its money from the people through taxation. You want Stem cell research done? Then donate to the private enterprises that are already researching its development, don’t umbrella the financial burden on those who don’t believe that it is necessary, That is TYRANY.

13) How would you react if your child was gay? They would still be my child and blood and would love them just as much, is a belief of what they think they are. Just like being conservative or a Democrat or republican, it is the way I choose to live, and being gay is a way others choose to live, I could help it if my child want to be gay like I cant help it if you want to be a Dem/Rep. But as right got it’s an individuals right to live as the see fit without harming others in a moral and ethical example.

14) Is your opinion of Dick Cheney favorable even though he has a lesbian daughter? I have learned you can’t judge someone on their family members, But you can judge them if they allow certain parties to get away with thing one would usually not if they didn’t know an official.

15) Why do you oppose abortion when a woman is raped? Conservatives (true conservatives) don’t oppose abortion in anyway but one. When taxpayer money is used for that abortion, she wouldn’t have been raped if she had a firearm on her and knew how to use it.

16) Do you believe in the death penalty? Yes they is so much more utensils now a days that can prove someone innocent or guilty at the molecular level almost all argument for the death penalty have been addressed.

17) Why are the majority of conservatives/Christians so against fellow Americans having a different point of view and why can't they simply accept other opinions and co-exist? Funny I ask that about Democrat liberals too. Read Liberal-Fascism that could put things into perspective of why conservatives don’t accept your views as being viable.

18) Why are so many Republicans of the belief that President Obama is a Muslim and if he was, why is that such a problem? The extreme terrorists are a very small percentage of Muslims! Why haven’t the Muslim population held rallies professing that point. Why hasn’t the Muslim population stand and yell that is not what the Muslim faith is about? They have not proved otherwise. In a clip he sates that he was glad that Mcain didn’t attack his Muslim beliefs. From your messiahs own mouth that’s why a lot of the right believe he is a Muslim

19) Do you think we will ever be able to live amongst each other without hatred & bigotry? Human nature is bigotry when any of us walk into a room we see who is similar to us and who is different and we tend to drift towards those similarities we call them “friends”. Persecution has happened for millions of years and nature hasn’t changed much today, so no it wont happen until we all see the truth in everything and not just our biases.

20) How many of you are doing better after 8 years of President Bush? I’m doinf worse of 2 moths of oboma Than of the 8 years of G.W.

Thank you for considering answering these questions. I am trying to figure out why we are so divided and can't seem to come together. I am a gay liberal who accepts all of you and your differing points of view and is thankful there are different people in MY country. After all, America is supposed to be a melting pot of immigrants. Both liberals and conservatives are guilty of keeping this country divided!

P.S. Its not liberals and conservatives that’s the problem its Republicans and Democrats that are to blame. All have been corrupted but a few in each party and they don’t affiliate with the party, they are labeled by the media as part of the two parties. True liberals and true conservative have a bigger middle ground than the media has you to believe, we need to go back to grass roots to fix this country.


Angie from Colorado
Comment posted April 1, 2009 @ 1:40 pm

Gee, which liberal produced the captions under each sign? Sorry to disappoint you but we really are smarter than that……


alex
Comment posted April 1, 2009 @ 1:56 pm

Watch The Obama Deception (free 2-hour movie you must see!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw


Patrick
Comment posted April 1, 2009 @ 5:10 pm

The response to my questions is simply someone who wanted to exchange their point of view in a non threatening way. Angie, why are you so suspect of the answers. If you note, whoever Erick is has some very pointed pro-gun responses. The purpose of these questions is to maybe open up an honest non-hating dialog. I am really trying to understand how people who think differently than me form their opinions. My mom was a bleeding liberal and I definitely got my beliefs from her. I have never really understood Republican thought process. I am just as guilty as hate mongering conservatives for slinging bad comments about those who don't think my way, but I don't feel that those people should think the way I do. What would happen if we stopped labeling each other and respected each other for who we are, not for what we believe in? But, this must be too liberal of a way of thinking. Oh well, just hoping we can start to get along.


Diane
Comment posted April 1, 2009 @ 6:52 pm

Great pictures–unfortunately the ones that it concerns will never look at them!!!!


Carl Spencer
Comment posted April 2, 2009 @ 11:43 am

You idiots running the government are supposed to be working for the people. Not the people working for the government and the idiots that bought things without the $$$ to pay for them, proposing the working people pay for them…What the hell is wrong with this picture???


Patrick
Comment posted April 2, 2009 @ 11:58 am

Calm down Carl. Everybody is just recovering from when Bush told everybody to go about their ways and spend money after 9/11 (which he created!). And, we are cleaning up a big mess from the 1994-2006 Republican congress. Since then, the congress is just figuring out how to get our country out of the hole. Unfortunately, we are going to have to spend our way out! No more tax cuts to the rich!


Izzy
Comment posted April 2, 2009 @ 3:14 pm

Don't forget to show up at your tea party. I took some time to read a few of your posts and I can tell Patrick that the one thing that Bush did was defend this country after 9-11 somethng I don't think the current President has the guts to do, especially after seeing him bow to the Saudi King. He also cut taxes across the board that got this country on it's feet again after reeling from 9-11. He kept us safe on American soil.

As far as giving Obama time, I would have, but after seeing what was in that so-called stimulus bill and seeing that no one read it before they signed it, purely disgusted me, that is tax payer dollars our hard earned money and it will do little to create jobs in our country. The omnibus bill filled with 9,000 earmarks that he said he would eliminate but signed. It has become crystal clear to me that he campaigned from the center but he will lead from the far left. Even socialist countries in Europe have told him to slow down with his massive spending plans as he will likely bankrupt this country. I have lost any hope that he will lead from the middle, he is a leftist with a socialistic agenda.


Craig
Comment posted April 2, 2009 @ 3:54 pm

Patrick,
We're not filled with hate (we leave that to the George Soros bunch or Obama's minister for 20 years or even the first lady who finally is proud to be an American). As Keith said above we're filled with disgust. Please help me understand how Reaganomics, which Clinton rode the wave on, killed our economy? He turned the economic mess created by Carter around and our country prospered for the next 12 years. Don't forget the economy was already going down in mid-1999 to late 1999.

The housing bust was created when our government under Clinton stated every American deserves to own a home and the government put pressure on the banking system to make loans available to people who couldn't afford them. How was this Reagan's or Bush's mess?

Obama is weakening our military and our ability to protect ourselves from future terrorist attacks (Closing Gitmo, decreasing miltary funding, not allowing interrogation techniques against known terrorists) . Do you not think our enemies are watching us and waiting? Clinton was no different. 9/11 was planned right under Clinton's nose and executed shortly after he left office. It is apparent the liberal left forgets the trama from our nation's worst attack and is concerned more about people who are pledged to kill Americans than Americans themselves. Please help me to understand this mentality.

Obama's budget will triple our nation's deficit in 10 years. Wasn't he bashing the Republican's during his campaign about the exorbent about of deficit from George Bush? Sounds a little two-faced to me. What are your thoughts?

Obama talked during his campaign about reaching across the aisle to break down the partianship, but he has done none of that. All he and the Congress Dems have done is make the situation worse. They are abusing their power passing laws that have nothing to do with helping improve the economy. Shouldn't that be their first & primary focus?

If you want to talk about Hatred, why does Pelosi, Frank and company HATE the Conservatives so much? Why are they not willing to work to resolve issues & listen to opposing views? Intead PUSH their agenda and BASH everyone that has an opposing opinion? When the conservatives were in the majority, we didn't witness this abuse of power. I'm hoping the conservatives learn a lesson.

Why is it that the Obama administration can force an executive of a publicly held company to step down and openly admits they reserve the right to make other executives at other companies do the same? Why is it they can “force” AIG executives to return their bonus, but the same government (dem & repub) can give their staffers $9.1 million in bonuses, no questions asked? Let's reveal those names. Why is our government officials still flying around in private jets, Pelosi demanding aircraft of her own with miltary security, etc? Seems so hypocritical to me. What do you think Patrick?

I support capitalism not socialism. When the government dictates who can run companies, who the board of directors can be, which companies can be saved and which can go under that is SOCIALISM. Tell me Patrick, what society has ever been successful within a Socialist System? Why does our President, his Cabinet and the Leaders of the Democrat party want to be more like the socialist system of Europe?

I have friends in the UK and Canada. As you are aware they have a nationalized healthcare system. Unless you have private insurance, you have to plan doctor's visits 6 months out. That's great for your annual checkup, but when you have a real problem, you're pretty much SOL. But according to our “new” government this system is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Our own Treasury Secretary, who failed to pay taxes for a few years, is in charge of the financial future of publicly traded companies? He broke the law and now he decides which companies fail, which ones live, who runs the companies? That's the pot calling the kettle black don't you think?

Patrick, who is going to pay for all of this spending our new government is creating? Do you really believe you & I won't see new tax increases? Or do you believe in the redistribution of weath? What about our kids and grandkids should they have to pay for OUR mistakes? Obama's budget will triple the deficit in 10 years, where is your outrage?

The republicans have countered with a proposed budget that will keep the Bush tax cuts in place, is 3.7 trillion less than Obama's 9.7Trillion budget, increases jobs, doesn't add to the IRS 67,000 page tax law, yada, yada, yada. The problem is it doesn't build BIG Government like the liberal socialist Left wants. Pelosi and sheep will file it in the dumpster.

Why is it that when Conservatives get together we're bigots and haters? Are we not allowed to protest under the 1st Amendment?

We're not bigots & were not haters. We're disgusted outraged Americans who support the values and beliefs of our founding fathers and our constitution, and not the ideals of our European bretheren. Hence the reason behind “The Tea Party”, the parallels of which you can't seem to wrap your brain around.


Craig
Comment posted April 2, 2009 @ 4:02 pm

Bush created 9/11?! Are you one of those conspiracy theorists? Please explain. I can't wait.


Terry
Comment posted April 2, 2009 @ 4:20 pm

patric, you sound like a real piece of demacrap, you and the demacraps of washington or should I say the state of seattle that voted obummer in, I hope will stand up and be counted,and it should be easy after you receive your tax ID # that you will inherit cause you and the rest of us are on our way to being commies. You will not have to worry about ever being rich, and wait till you get your power bill next year lol, if they will let us have any by then


Thedes
Comment posted April 2, 2009 @ 5:09 pm

We can help pay for someone else's mortgage or we can pay higher taxes for those who've lost their jobs, their homes, and their healthcare. Foreclosure affects every house in the neighborhood folks, it drives down the value of your home. Maybe if people would stop practicing their righeous selfishness and really put some serious thought into how depression will affect ALL of us in the long term they might start grasping the concept that a “rising tide raises all boats” except, like too many conservatives, the ones anchored to the bottom. Either you're going to follow the precepts of Jesus or Gordon Geeko. You can't have it both ways. I don't remember Jesus preaching that “greed is good” or “screw the poor, let them fend for themselves” or “Blessed are the selfish for they shall gain all the goodies”. Remember, “As you do unto others, you do unto Me”.


Patrick
Comment posted April 2, 2009 @ 7:12 pm

Craig,

Bush had intellegence reports for months prior to 9/11 and INGORED them. I honestly think once he became president that he realized he was in over his head and let it happen so he could frame his presidency, but did not think it would be as bad as it was. Remember when he was notified while reading to children and just sat there. I think he realized he should have prevented it. He looked pretty stupid (as usual) and dumbfounded (again>>as usual). The bottom line is that ANY president would have taken appropriate action and he did nothing that was any more exceptional than any other president would have done. The main problem after 9/11 was that Bush then lied us into the Iraq war with faulty reports and let Cheney run the White House. Then he realized he had no real plan for the Iraq war and really messed that one up. I am thankful he is gone. It is nice to have a president who really cares about ALL Americans, not just his rich oil buddies. And then Katrina…..my oh my!


Patrick
Comment posted April 3, 2009 @ 10:49 am

I thought I would put out some good liberal stuff for all of you. GO IOWA! It is time we are ALL treated equally, not special>>>just equal. Isn't Obama doing a great job in Europe?>>>finally restoring the world's opinion of my country after 8 years of Bush tearing down our reputation and displaying nothing but stupidity. Today is a great day for America.


Concerned Citizen
Comment posted April 3, 2009 @ 12:04 pm

It isn't anti-Christian to want limited government. That is being a good steward finances.
Higher taxes to fund a government that is already spending record amount of taxpayer dollars is not good for our country.


Izzy
Comment posted April 3, 2009 @ 3:22 pm

The congress and the senate just passed a proposal to spend 3.1 trillion dollars in the 2009 budget without 1 republican vote. 3.1 trillion dollars amounts to more money for the federal budget than all previous Presidents combined since George Washington. Now if that does not scare you nothing will.


Izzy
Comment posted April 3, 2009 @ 3:35 pm

Obama oplogizes to europe for America, the country that he is President of. Excuse me, that is sickening, we liberated those people and lost hundreds of thousands of American lives during World War 1and World War 11 to liberate those ingrateful snobs from Germany. We help the poor all over the world, we are the first ones there when anything happens while the europeans sit and watch and then criticize our actions. We are first in the war on terror. President Obama opologize for America, I don't think so. He is an embarassment to the veterans of this country who have fought and died to keep the United States and Europe free.


Izzy
Comment posted April 3, 2009 @ 4:26 pm

I hope you all take the time to read all of this article, this is what is worring millions of Americans.

OPINION APRIL 3, 2009 Obama's $163,000 Tax Bomb
Families well below the president's 'no-tax' threshold will get a six-figure bill.Article
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By MICHAEL J. BOSKIN
The House and Senate are preparing to pass President Barack Obama's radical budget blueprint, with only minor modifications, by using (abusing would be more accurate) the budget “reconciliation” process. This process circumvents the Senate's normal rules requiring 60 votes to prevent a filibuster. Reconciliation was created by Congress in the mid-1970s to enforce deficit reduction, the opposite of what the president and his party are aiming for.

APThe immense increase in nondefense spending and taxes, and the tripling of the national debt in Mr. Obama's budget, have been the subject of considerable scrutiny since it was announced. Mr. Obama and his economic officials respond, not without justification, that he inherited an enormous economic and financial crisis and a large deficit. All presidents present the best possible case for their budgets, but a mind-numbing array of numbers offers innumerable opportunities to conjure up misleading comparisons.

Mr. Obama's characterizations of his budget unfortunately fall into this pattern. He claims to reduce the deficit by half, to shave $2 trillion off the debt (the cumulative deficit over his 10-year budget horizon), and not to raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year. While in a Clintonian sense correct (depends on what the definition of “is” is), it is far more accurate to describe Mr. Obama's budget as almost tripling the deficit. It adds $6.5 trillion to the national debt, and leaves future U.S. taxpayers (many of whom will make far less than $250,000) with the tab. And all this before dealing with the looming Medicare and Social Security cost explosion.

Some have laid the total estimated deficits and debt projections (as more realistically tallied by the Congressional Budget Office) on Mr. Obama's doorstep. But on this score the president is correct. He cannot rightly be blamed for what he inherited. A more accurate comparison calculates what he has already added and proposes to add by his policies, compared to a “do-nothing” baseline (see nearby chart).

The CBO baseline cumulative deficit for the Obama 2010-2019 budget is $9.3 trillion. How much additional deficit and debt does Mr. Obama add relative to a do-nothing budget with none of his programs? Mr. Obama's “debt difference” is $4.829 trillion — i.e., his tax and spending proposals add $4.829 trillion to the CBO do-nothing baseline deficit. The Obama budget also adds $177 billion to the fiscal year 2009 budget. To this must be added the $195 billion of 2009 legislated add-ons (e.g., the stimulus bill) since Mr. Obama's election that were already incorporated in the CBO baseline and the corresponding $1.267 trillion in add-ons for 2010-2019. This brings Mr. Obama's total additional debt to $6.5 trillion, not his claimed $2 trillion reduction. That was mostly a phantom cut from an imagined 10-year continuation of peak Iraq war spending.

The claim to reduce the deficit by half compares this year's immense (mostly inherited) deficit to the projected fiscal year 2013 deficit, the last of his current term. While it is technically correct that the deficit would be less than half this year's engorged level, a do-nothing budget would reduce it by 84%. Compared to do-nothing, Mr. Obama's deficit is more than two and a half times larger in fiscal year 2013. Just his addition to the budget deficit, $459 billion, is bigger than any deficit in the nation's history. And the 2013 deficit is supposed to be after several years of economic recovery, funds are being returned from the financial bailouts, and we are out of Iraq.

Finally, what of the claim not to raise taxes on anyone earning less than $250,000 a year? Even ignoring his large energy taxes, Mr. Obama must reconcile his arithmetic. Every dollar of debt he runs up means that future taxes must be $1 higher in present-value terms. Mr. Obama is going to leave a discounted present-value legacy of $6.5 trillion of additional future taxes, unless he dramatically cuts spending. (With interest the future tax hikes would be much larger later on.) Call it a stealth tax increase or ticking tax time-bomb.

What does $6.5 trillion of additional debt imply for the typical family? If spread evenly over all those paying income taxes (which under Mr. Obama's plan would shrink to a little over 50% of the population), every income-tax paying family would get a tax bill for $163,000. (In ten years, interest would bring the total to well over $200,000, if paid all at once. If paid annually over the succeeding ten years, the tax hike per year would average almost $26,000.) That's in addition to his explicit tax hikes. While the future tax time-bomb is pushed beyond Mr. Obama's budget horizon, and future presidents and Congresses will decide how it will be paid, it is likely to be paid by future income tax hikes as these are general fund deficits.

We can get a rough idea of who is likely to pay them by distributing this $6.5 trillion of future taxes according to the most recent distribution of income-tax burdens. We know the top 1% or 5% of income-taxpayers pay vastly disproportionate shares of taxes, and much larger shares than their shares of income. But it also turns out that Mr. Obama's massive additional debt implies a tax hike, if paid today, of well over $100,000 for people with incomes of $150,000, far below Mr. Obama's tax-hike cut-off of $250,000 (over $130,000 in ten years and over $16,000 a year if paid annually over the following ten years). In other words, a middle-aged two-career couple in New York or California could get a future tax bill as big as their mortgage.

While Mr. Obama's higher tax rates are economically harmful, some of his tax policies deserve wide support, e.g., permanently indexing the alternative minimum tax. Ditto some of the spending increases, including the extension of unemployment benefits, given the severe recession.

Neither a large deficit in a recession nor a small increase from the current modest level in the debt to GDP ratio is worrisome. And at a 50% debt-to-GDP ratio, with nominal GDP growing 4% (the CBO out-year forecast), deficits of 2% of GDP would not be increasing the debt burden relative to income.

But what is not just worrisome but dangerous are the growing trillion dollar deficits in the latter years of the Obama budget. These deficits are so large for a prosperous nation in peacetime — three times safe levels — that they would cause the debt burden to soar toward banana republic levels. That's a recipe for a permanent drag on growth and serious pressure on the Federal Reserve to inflate, not the new era of rising prosperity that Mr. Obama and his advisers foresee.

Mr. Boskin is a professor of economics at Stanford University and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. He chaired the Council of Economic Advisers under President George H.W. Bush.


Craig
Comment posted April 3, 2009 @ 4:30 pm

Patrick,
Why are you so full of hate, contempt and bigotry? Why can't you love your fellow neighbor even if they have differing opinions? Why must you and your fellow liberal counterparts continue to divide this country in two? We need to start the healing process. You need to forgive and move forward with your life. Perhaps you need to seek professional help or find religion; whatever takes the hatred out of your heart.

We're all praying for you Patrick. God Bless you.


Patrick
Comment posted April 3, 2009 @ 4:59 pm

Craig,

I have no hatred towards anyone. My previous posts may be filled with my liberal point of view, but I have tried to ask the same questions of conservatives/Republicans/Christians>>why so much hate. I honestly feel that it is the conservatives who thrust hatred and bigotry on folks who don't have their same beliefs. I embrace difference in people and love a good debate with a hard core Republican as long as both involved can keep their cool and not yell at each other (like Sean Hannity or Ann Coulter). Liberals are not the ones dividing this country>>you have that one wrong. In truth, there are both left and right thinking people who won't listen to each other. It really became elevated with the Bush years. Just because I don't have the same ideals does not make me unpatriotic. I love my country and all Americans. I don't hate anyone!! Let the healing begin on both sides>>>OK?


Craig
Comment posted April 3, 2009 @ 5:31 pm

Ok…I'd love to believe you, but your previous posts regarding Presidents Bush & Reagan and first ladys Mrs Reagan and Mrs Bush showed your contempt and hatred. It was disturbing, quite frankly.


Craig
Comment posted April 3, 2009 @ 5:36 pm

When he was notified of the horrific attack that was planned under Clinton's watch he reacted like I did and many of my fellow Americans. He sat there trying to comprehend what had just happened. What did you do when you first learned of the attack?

You state you don't hate your fellow Americans and your not filled with contempt. But you continue to bash President Bush. Sounds like hatred and contempt. Very disappointing.


Craig
Comment posted April 3, 2009 @ 5:51 pm

“It is time we are all treated equally, not special.” Amen to that. Let's abolish Affirmative Action. Hire the best person for the job regardless of race, religion, etc. Let's tax everyone at the same rate, why should wealthier people have to pay a higher precentage in taxes? Abolish the marriage tax penalty. Tell the new President and 1st Lady to stop dragging race into their speeches and appearances. Either you're American or not. Get rid of the labels that divide our country (African-American, Mexican-American). Hey I'm a German-Hungarian-Czechoslovakian American! No, I'm just an American. Put tougher requirements on people who accept government handouts. I like everyone treated equal good point Patrick, I'm sure you agree with the above.


Patrick
Comment posted April 3, 2009 @ 7:17 pm

Here is the deal Craig. I will admit that I do have a deep disliking (I don't like the word hate) for George W Bush and Ronald Reagan. I had a small printing business in California during the Reagan years and he was very pro big business. He empowered the IRS and made it difficult on small business owners. I'm sorry if I made bad comments about the first ladys, but they also have made some very repulsive comments towards those who were down and out. George W is to me the worst president ever and in my opinion he did a horrible job as president. I was embarrassed as an American during his administration. Other than that I really don't hate Republicans/Christians/Conservatives. I just wish they (as well as many liberals) would just chill out and stop expecting everybody to have their same beliefs. This is America and we are entitled to our opinions and free speech. Anyway, there are plenty of people in OUR country who will continue to waste their time trying to spew hatred and bigotry. I agree with almost all of your previous posts about special treatment. Thanks for being reasonable in these discussions. I don't know it these types of exchanges help us to understand each other, but I respect you and your opinions and I hope you can respect mine as well!


Craig
Comment posted April 3, 2009 @ 8:52 pm

You state Reagan & Bush created the mess were in….

Explain this…

Freddie and Fannie used huge lobbying budgets and political contributions to keep regulators off their backs. A group called the center for responsive politics keeps track of which politicians get Fannie and Freddie political contributions. The top three U.S. Senators getting big Fannie and Freddie political bucks were democrats and number two is Senator Barack Obama. Fannie and Freddie have been creations of the congressional democrats and the Clinton white house, designed to make mortgages available to more people, and as it turned out, some people who couldn't afford them. Fannie and Freddie have also been places for big Washington democrats to go to work in the semi-private sector and pocket millions. The Clinton administration's white house budget director Franklin Raines ran Fannie and collected 50 million dollars. Jamie Gurilli, Clinton Justice Apartment Official, worked for Fannie and took home 26 million dollars. Big Democrat Jim Johnson has hauled in millions from his Fannie Mae C.E.O. job. Senator Obama, was at the head of the line when the piggy's lined up at the Fannie and Freddie trough for campaign bucks. Senator Barack Obama, number two on the Fannie/Freddie list of favored politicians after just four short years in the senate.

Now Freddie and Barney's Frank's Fannie are giving bonuses to their employees. Where's your beloved president saying he's gonna tax these recipients 90% or release their names. Don't hear it because he was on the take.

Deep Dislike = HATE. Admit it. You HATE Bush & Reagan. It's okay, it's the first step towards healing.


Craig
Comment posted April 3, 2009 @ 8:55 pm

How old are you Patrick? Can you remember the Carter years?


Patrick
Comment posted April 3, 2009 @ 10:17 pm

Let's just face it Craig>>>You are a Republican and I am a Democrat. You will always have unkind things to say about Carter & Clinton and I will always have unkind things to say about Reagan & Bush. I don't need any healing. If I do, so do you. If I admit to hating Reagan & Bush, will you admit to hating Carter & Clinton? Then the healing will begin and neither one of us needs any professional help . We just have our personal opinions and beliefs and should respect our differences and leave it at that. I am not trying to convince you to believe the way I do and I hope you are not trying to convince me to believe the way you do. Isn't America great?


Craig
Comment posted April 4, 2009 @ 3:54 am

that was embarassing!


Craig
Comment posted April 4, 2009 @ 4:44 pm

It is great. At least you admit that you do hate Reagan and Bush. Hey, it's the first step. Good job. You're on your way down the healing path. Congrats.

BTW…I'm not republican…I am conservative though.


brennan
Comment posted April 4, 2009 @ 7:51 pm

I will add you as I pray for our country. How can you say that Today is a great day for America when your President insults every Verteran, man, women and child in this coutnry stating we are arrogant. Where is your love for country?


DamnedLiberal
Comment posted April 5, 2009 @ 10:19 pm

This is all so amusing. Violate the Constitution? No uproar. Torture? No uproar. Invade a country under false pretenses? No uproar. Forget about OBL? No problem. Run up a record deficit? No problem. Create more terrorists? No problem. Politicize the federal government? No problem. The “free market system” causes the world to go off a cliff? No problem. Black Democratic president elected who's trying to prevent Great Depression II? NOW we've got a problem.

Equally amusing: The Comparison Blame Game. Regan/Bush vs. Carter/Clinton.

“Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter.” (William Ralph Inge)


Patrick
Comment posted April 6, 2009 @ 8:42 am

I totally love my country, but I have to agree that we are an arrogant country. We do so many good things for other nations and at the same time try to convert other cultures to western ways. Many other cultures are very happy and don't need to change. It is amazing to me how in the last 10 years, one word or a few words are so exaggerated by the media, especially the Fox network. The President did not insult anyone, the media blew up a usage of a word>>>that is all.


Patrick
Comment posted April 6, 2009 @ 8:45 am

Craig,

I did not admit it yet. I said if you agree to admit your hatred towards Carter & Clinton, then I would “if” you do the same. It seems like you must be on the healing path by simply exchanging words without insult>>excellent! I am a liberal democrat. Are you an Independent?


Izzy
Comment posted April 6, 2009 @ 6:47 pm

Damned liberal, you will be damn good and mad when you realize that your taxes are going to go through the roof with all of your President's agenda. He is more than tripling Bush's debt and spending more on this budget than all previous budgets and all previous Presidents combined. But I guess if you don't mind spending a few billion tax dollars trying to find out why pigs stink, than it probably won't bother you.

Winston Churchill,” If you are twenty and you are not a liberal you don't have a heart. If you are 40 and still a liberal you don't have a brain.”

Margaret Thatcher,” Socializm works fine until you run out of other people's money.”


Dave
Comment posted April 7, 2009 @ 1:51 am

It's clear from your spelling that you have a lower-than-average IQ, so I will try to use small words. Margaret Thatcher is commonly reviled here in England, where I live. People here have free medical care, child care, and 4 weeks of vacation a year. The average taxpayer pays less than 22% in taxes. We have infrastructure (sorry, big word there) and public transportation that works. None of this was due to Thatcher, and much was actually repealed under her reign. If you're going to go quoting someone who didn't give a damn about the people, but only about making rich people richer, well… I guess we already know who you support, so no surprise there.

You get what you pay for.


Dave
Comment posted April 7, 2009 @ 2:12 am

Wow, reading your comments is just so entertaining. You need to go back to school and learn to spell. Maybe that's the difference between Europeans and Americans like you – Europeans speak better English, even when it isn't their native language!

If you're going to keep holding the whole “World War 11″ [sic] thing over the heads of Europe, you'd better know your history. The Americans only came in at the very end, when Europe and Russia were on the verge of breaking the back of the German war machine. Although it was certainly a big help, America's entry into the European theater was by no means the “liberation” you describe.

Besides, that doesn't give America carte blanche to run over the rest of the world for all eternity. It's highly appropriate that Obama apologize for the actions of the idiots who ran our country for the last 8 years, sowing war and destruction around the globe. America has become reviled (i.e. “hated”) in world opinion. Perhaps if you were to travel outside the borders of your fifedom, you might know that. There is more to the world than just the good ol' U-S-of-A.

If you really believe in democracy, then consider that Americans are a very small minority of the world population, and by no means the most important, despite what your super-sized ego may feel. If the world were a true democracy, the U.S. would have been voted to the sidelines a long time ago. Put that in your teacup and swirl it around.

By the way, before you ask, I am American, and I voted for Obama. I'm sorry you are such a sore loser. We had to put up with Bush for the last eight, terrible years, and now we have a long way to go to reverse the damage he and his cronies have done. Yes, cleaning up this mess is going to cost us all. But not cleaning it up would cost even more. You were part of the problem, and you obviously don't want to be part of the solution, but you do have to sit back and let the majority rule. That's democracy, which you claim to support.


Dave
Comment posted April 7, 2009 @ 2:25 am

While we're spouting numbers, that is approximately the same amount as the national debt was when Clinton left office. Under Bush, we added another digit to that number. Clinton balanced the budget. Bush took us to new heights of borrow-and-spend. I doubt you were complaining when Bush spent all your money, because, oh wait, you got a $600 check in the mail! That just makes it all better, doesn't it? Now that the house of cards is crumbling, you want to blame it on liberals and a Democratic congress.

If you need more evidence, look at this site: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ . Scroll down and take a look at some of the historical headlines. Notice that, under Clinton, the debt actually began DECREASING. (Incidentally, that was a debt we racked up under three Republican terms.) Then, under Bush, the clock began spinning the other way. Now we actually have had to: 1) enact new legislation to raise the debt ceiling (under a Republican congress); and 2) add another digit to the debt clock, because it didn't have enough room to display the new number.

Given time, we can reverse this process again. But we all have to stop being selfish, and maybe be willing to pay a bit more tax. If your neighbor were stricken with cancer, you'd probably dig deep to help them out. Why not help out your ailing country? Personally, I'll pay a bit extra to help out my country, and I don't even live there right now. (I do, however, continue to pay taxes for the services I'm not using.)


Izzy
Comment posted April 8, 2009 @ 7:06 am

Dave it is obvious that you are an left wing elitist and a liberal nut case. Your concern over correct spelling or typo errors points that out. This is not an essay. These are blogs. It is the content that counts here not the grammar. Margaret Thatcher is very respected in this country along with Ronald Reagan, they were both capitalists.

I have talked to many from your country and others where people have died waiting for a needed operation, that is your socialised medicine and it sucks.

I am all for public transportation, just not at the expense of tripling the debt that we will pass on to our great grandchildren, which in turn will diminish the quality of life that they will enjoy.

Socialism defined: social organization based on GOVERNMENT CONTROL on production and distribution of goods and services. In other words, spreading the wealth. The government takes from those that get up off of the sofa and go to work and gives to those that sit on the sofa and do nothing but wait for their government check.

Dave it is also obvious by your post that you have come down with the disease known as, ” Rich envy,” the rich are to blame for everything. What you don't realize with your limited capacity, is that the rich create most of the jobs in this country, they also pay most of the taxes in this country and they are most responsible for the charitable contributions in this country. Another fact::, anyone in this country has the opportunity to become rich if they get the education and they work hard enough to do so. Your not being rich is your own fault, it is demonstrative of your lack of incentive and ambition.

I hope that I used big enough words for you and that my spelling was correct.

Winston Churchill, ” If you are twenty and you are not a liberal, you don't have a heart. If you are forty and still a liberal you don't have a brain. “


Izzy
Comment posted April 8, 2009 @ 8:56 am

I hope you all make a point of attending your local tea parties, this is a grass roots movement and it's high time we let congress know that they work for us, not us for them.

Have any of you conservatives ever noticed what VICTIMS liberals are, they don't believe in personal responsibility, they take very little action to correct their conditions and they almost always look for someone else to blame or someone else to pick up the tab. They never take accountability for the choices, especially the failures that they have made in their lives. They always play the VICTIM role. They always look to government for answers to everything and for their own personal bailout.


Izzy
Comment posted April 9, 2009 @ 12:49 pm

“Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” – Frédéric Bastiat

How true, couldn't have said it better myself. So many people seem to forget who pays the state, it's us taxpayers. I thought it funny to see that our taxes have been raised yet the government is taking in 25% less revenue this year. They don't get it, they think that they will raise revenue to themselves by simply raising taxes, they don't understand that when you raise taxes business and people have less to spend on goods and services and that this causes the loss of jobs. The more people working the more revenue they take in, the less people working the less revenue they take in. It's not rocket science, but somehow something this simple to understand goes well over the heads of our representatives. GO TO YOUR TEA PARTY AND HELP STOP THE INSANITY.


Patriot
Comment posted April 10, 2009 @ 12:09 am

I, like most of the hard working, over tax paying, pick up the tab for all those over paid & underworked,
I belong to the greatest group of Patriots in America, & it's called ” WE THE PEOPLE “, and
WE THE PEOPLE are tired of being sold down the river by those who were elected to represent us.
W. T. P. are tired of a Comander In Cheif who would apologise to other countries who would just as soon behead American's with a bitter hatred of our great country, A CIC who would BOW to a Muslim
Nation, who given the chance would turn our beloved America into a Muslim Nation. A CIC who would tell the world that the US of A is not a Christian Nation, a Country that was founded by Christians, the same patriots that created the Constitution of The United States of America, that by the way the Government is alway's trying to change for their own bennefit. W.T.P. are tired of giving foriegn aid to countries that have never even tried to recipricate in any way, but still hate our Capitalistic way's.
W.T.P. are tired of our Government Official's, Senators, Reprsentative's, who are acting in our best interest, to give themselves multi thousand dollar raises & bonus's without W.T.P. voting on such spending of OUR MONEY. W.T.P. are tired of the government spending our HARD EARNED money
to bail out in-country & out of country compaines bank's, insurance co, etc. that have failed & that have been beating us into the ground with their lies & high interest charge's, & then want us to bail them out when they can't handle their own mistake's, I say let them fail…. there are way too many of them anyway!!!!!!!!! Most of W.T.P DO NOT WANT GITMO CLOSED we need to know where these TERRORIST's are at all times & with them in GITMO we will !!! Our Muslim CIC (along with those fanatic Liberals & Humanitarians )want's his Muslim friends out, so they can get themselves back together & Kill more American's!!!!! Our CIC evedently thinks that there is no end to wealth that our country has, or should I say,
that W.T.P. have. What he doesn't know is, He's wrong and He's going to find out in 3 1/2 year's.
If those Democratic, Liberal, IDIOT's haven't figured out by now what they did in the voting booth, & what they've done to our country, then they don't belong on the PAYROLL!!!!!!!!! We have poor, needy, hungry in our own country that need bail out money, some of our own children in this country have to live in broke down rust riden school buses, shacks, & tent cities. Some have one hand me down dress or old hole riden pair of pants& a tee shirt to wear all year, no shoes they cost $$$$$. When is the CIC going to take care of our own 1st & stop sending BILLIONS to other countries, or is the real question… CIC
are you a American First ……………… OR NOT!!!!!


knixphan
Comment posted April 10, 2009 @ 9:22 am

Gee, wonder what these disgruntled McCain voters would have said to Eisenhower?


Izzy
Comment posted April 10, 2009 @ 11:49 am

Great post Patrick, keep it up!!!! I read the book ” Inside Gitmo,” it is down right scary. These terrorists are intent on murdering every man, woman and child whom they consider infidels. Which is any person who is not a Muslim, they kill their own people as seen over and over again on the nightly new. Some of these prisoners have been released back to their countries and have been caught again with terrorist networks. These are not innocent, nice people, they are murdering serial killers who deliberately attack innocent civilians. Two of the people who have been let go from Gitmo have since murdered over 50 people. They are diabolical in their planning and they continue to plan attacks on America. NEVER FORGET 9-11.

For President Obama to bow to the Saudi King was down right disgusting, The majority of the terrorists who attacked our country on 9-11 were from Saudi Arabia. It was the worst attack on American soil in history, it murdered over 3,000 AMERICAN CIVILIANS and our President bows to their king, I don't think so, you could have held a gun to my head and I would not have done that. It was down right sickening to see that.


Izzy
Comment posted April 10, 2009 @ 2:47 pm

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My tea party had to be moved to a larger area. This is not a partisan issue, it's an AMERICAN ISSUE. We all agree that changes need to be made but BIG GOVERNMENT is not the answer. For congress to pass billions on a stiumlus bill that was full of pork, was not only irresponsible it's down right CRIMINAL. Then to do it without even taking the time to READ it, is REPULSIVE. Then to turn right around and pass an Omnibus bill with 9,000 earmarks with one of the earmarks spending millions to study why pigs stink is INSANITY. Now we are talking about a few TRILLION more in the current budget, a budget that could easily bankrupt this country is DIABOLICAL.

If you beleive that BIG GOVERNMENT is the answer; then ask yourself- do you think they run the post office efficiently? Do you think that they manage social security efficiently? Do you think that they manage Medicare and Medicaid efficiently? Do you think that they managed Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae efficiently? Do you think that they manage our education system efficiently? Do you think that they manage veteran's health care efficiently? Do you think that there may be alot of waste and fraud OF TAX PAYER'S MONEY in these programs? If your answer to these questions are a resounding NO and a YES to the last question then you have no business that is more important than attending your local TEA PARTY.

IT'S HIGH TIME WE TOOK OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!!!


Peter
Comment posted April 10, 2009 @ 4:40 pm

As Republicans were so fond of saying for the past eight years, “love it or leave it”, and “criticising our president only emboldens our enemies”.

Take your own advice and support our president.

P.s. Only 8% of the currently proposed budget is additional discresionary spending, the rest is left over from the last administration who did such a great job with the economy…..


ogbrent
Comment posted April 10, 2009 @ 9:17 pm

Have any of you actually sent Tea Bags to the White House? I saw that as one of the ideas on another website but I do not think that will work. I did find this site called http://www.sendteacard.com that sends a postcard with tea bags on it and what I thought was a great message. On the back it says we are Mad as Hell about what Washington is doing with OUR money! You even have a choice of the top 7 people in Washington to send it to. Any thoughts on this? Can this be effective? I heard about the recent Red Envelope Project that dumped 2.25 Million cards to the White House Mail Room a week or so ago, could this be an even bigger movement? I sent 2 cards to each of the 7 choices, If I am going to spend money (taxes), I at least want them to know I am Mad as Hell they are doing it.


Sara
Comment posted April 11, 2009 @ 5:46 am

Why do all of these people hate America so much? Our president was elected by a large majority and he is doing what he said he would. I say love your country and support it and your president. All of these silly protests are sending the wrong message to our children about what it means to be American and a good Christian. Shame on you!


Nathan
Comment posted April 11, 2009 @ 6:24 am

Izzy: You're delusional. Grammar, indeed, is paramount in engendering credibility. You want to dumb stuff down, go ahead. But, doing so merely indicates a lack of forethought, critical thinking and attention to detail.

Ronald Reagan was revered by many in the US while it was thought his ideas had merit. However, Trickle-down, small government, Thousand Points of Light philosophies taken to their inevitable extreme by the GW Bush Administration has brought us the overcompensating, damaged ego politics that's presented to us ALL a military quagmire in Iraq, the failure in Afganistan, Presidential power grabs to the brink of Constitutional Crises and rampant banking fraud that's brought the WORLD banking sector to its knees. Ronald Reagan's legacy is completely discredited here as Thatcher's has been in the UK. Reganomics, and everything Ronal Reagan stood for, is discredited. Reganomics is a failure and Emasculated government, intentionally hobbled to the point it's unable to protect the people from corporate greed, as well as all other threats, foreign and domestic, is a failure.

Your paranoia about the US government becoming socialist indicates deep seated psychopathy or perhaps merely an abject lack of understanding of how the US Constitution and the government it describes works. Proportionally – adjusted for inflation – FDR spent much more to recover from mirror image Republican policies that brought the US to the Depression in 1929. His New Deal government spending policies saved thousands of lives, provided MILLIONS of jobs, was the country's last major infrastructure buildup (which is necessary regardless of the times, was due during the Reagan Adminsitration, but was ignored so he could spend Billions on SDI, invading Panama, illegally siphoning arms to sell to embargoed Iran, and all those other ridiculously insane policies for which he was never brought to justice).

The greed of the rich on Wall Street directly led to the current financial crisis. It is not the rich, but the small business owner, those little mom-and-pop enterprises that earn less that $250K/year, that provide the vast majority of jobs in the US. Were it not for tax deductions, those many rich for whom you apologize wouldn't give a penny to charitable causes. No altruism there whatsoever.

You sure do project alot. Who are you to know anybody else's incentive level and inherent ambition? Besides being judgemental, you claim authority you don't possess, claim knowledge that's easily repudiated, and you have no credibility, just like the Republican party and all the other Republican party's failed ideoolgy apologists. You need to seriously update your material. And, please, stop whigning. If you don't have a viable, workable or at least plausible alternative to present, then all you're doing is letting off hot air.

Once this current crisis subsides, government spending will again decrease, the defiits will be brought back to balance, all without previous era failed policy and rhetoric. But, I venture, you'll probably still be complaining. How tedious.


Patrick
Comment posted April 11, 2009 @ 8:20 am

Hey Dizzy,

Are you sure the people attending your little “Tea Party” will be smart enough to find the new location? You are one of the angriest persons I have ever seen. Where was your rage during the terrible Bush years? Parden my french, but Bush really fucked things up!!

IT'S HIGH TIME WE TOOK OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!!!

That comment is what the majority of America did last November when we chose Obama over McCain. Understanding and respecting McCain's service to our country, I am so thankful he did not get elected for many reasons. He is way too old and is stuck in old fashioned think processes. He picked a very unqualified running mate just to get some votes. Thank God he chose Sarah Palin>>she is stupid and if she can't control her underage child from pre-marital sex and pregnancy, how would she do as VP?

Sore losers are such a sad sight! Get over it and do what you told me to do during the Bush years>>>love it or leave it under the president who won. So Dizzy, calm down and breathe a little. You might get a heart attack with your anger and rage. I have yet to see any solutions presented by you, only complaining and finger pointing. Give some solutions!

Your Pal,

Patrick


Izzy
Comment posted April 11, 2009 @ 9:38 am

Sara you need to start paying attention to what he is doing, he pushed through a stimulus bill that cost billions of dollars and the senate and congress did not even have a chance to read it before they voted on it. It was full of pork that will do nothing to stimulate the economy. He campaigned to eliminate pork and earmarks, yet he pushed through the omnibus bill which had 9,000 earmarks in it . One included millions to study why pigs stink. If you have children, they are the ones that will be responsible for paying this tremendous debt back. 4 trillion dollars is his projected budget, his own CBO, congressional budget office states that this debt is unsustainable. His budget is more than any and all budgets combined from George Washington to now. He campaigned like he was going to lead from the middle, yet after the election he is leading from the far left. I had alot of hope for him, but after seeing him push that stimulus package and reviewing what was in it and then again seeing him push the omnibus bill with 9,000 earmarks, I lost all hope for him. He is a Pelosi left liberal that will spend this country into a banana republic, is that the kind of future you want for your children?


Izzy
Comment posted April 11, 2009 @ 9:41 am

I sent in a tea lable and I know several other people who did the same. This is a grass roots movement and it will go nationwide with thousands on the 15th of April.


Izzy
Comment posted April 11, 2009 @ 9:47 am

Peter, you need to check your facts. The Omnibus bill was left over from the last administration, Bush refused to sign it and threatened to veto it because of the 9,000 earmarks. That is why the democrats who control congress then and now held it over for Obama to sign.

This new budget amounts to 3.7 trillion dollars, MORE THAN ANY AND ALL OTHER BUDGETS BY ALL PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS COMBINED since Washington, his own budget office states that it is unsustainable, This is a debt that we can not afford to pass on to future generations. There are other answers and solutions than just tax and spend, because beleive me we will all end up paying and paying dearly to uncle sam if this goes through and passes.


azmom
Comment posted April 11, 2009 @ 10:27 am

People need to educate themselves about what is going on….the Trilateral commission and the Bilderberger group are ochestrating our president and heading us toward a new world order…dictatorship…bankrupt the US and the other countries and then they can take over…google them and read how many presidents have been in their pocket all the way back to Jimmy Carter…IWANT AMERICA BACK….GIVE ME FREEDOM….AND THE FLAG. So many Americans have spilled their blood for this nation to be sold out by our government and Big money. I do not want a NEW WORLD ORDER for my grandchildren. 33 states hasve declared or Proposed Sovereignty under the 2nd, 9th, and 10th amendment…the actions the Fed government are taking are Unconstitutional…look at bill 793 and 794 in congress as we speak giving them control of the internet to stop dissent in the nation,,,,,,,2000 tax day tea parties….people are angry……..this debt is unsustainable…it will cause a depression…….Stock market falling, Unemployment at its highest…home values plummeting…401K becoming worthless…….WAKE-UP America…..read …google find out what is going on……it is all there..!!!! It does not matter Dem or Rep…….Geitner..did not pay his taxes for 5 years…but we should …how is he head of IRS? Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac…all on Obama's cabinet…..his whole cabinet is made up of WALL STREET…they put us where we are now…American's out of work yet they want to grant amnesty to Illegal Aliens,,,,,Hoover, Truman and Ike…deported illegal Alien's to make jobs for the US Military coming home from war..why can't we?We do not have a chance of keeping our freedom if we do not all join together….with our states…and say NO MORE SPENDING…….how can a bankrupt nation…..bail out anything?????


Izzy
Comment posted April 11, 2009 @ 12:18 pm

They now have in place a quick check system for potential employers to check if immigrants are leagal or illegal, many are doing that now. The problem is, is that this system will expire in Sept of 09, congress is reluctant to keep this program in place because they are worried about angering their voting block. Illegal immigration has been the major cause of the bankrupt condition of California. Most of us are immigrants but leagal ones. I am all for leagal immigration it's the illegal migration that is causing alot of problems and it needs to stop.


Izzy
Comment posted April 11, 2009 @ 12:22 pm

According to Obama, we are not a christian nation, one question: I went to the grocery store to buy my favorite ham and they were out, the people were wall to wall buying food for Easter dinner. Happy Easter everyone. God bless us all.


ishaggedpalin
Comment posted April 11, 2009 @ 12:46 pm

izzy sarah and all other wingnuts….my balls are ready for your mouth.

teabaggers…..really?! how is the world supposed to take seriously the fringe super minority when they call themselves, teabaggers.

get lives and drop the balls outta your mouth holes.


sherry
Comment posted April 11, 2009 @ 6:42 pm

how hard is it to impeach a president?


sherry
Comment posted April 11, 2009 @ 6:54 pm

It would be easy to support a president if he had ethics and was morally taking care of our country. If you think it is ok to print money we don't have and pay other peoples bills and lie every time he opens his mouth , what message is that sending to your children? I want to know what they are going to think when they are still paying for this mess instead of trying to better their life with rewards of hard work and being christians.I find it very insulting for you to say we hate America because we dont agree with his social engineering and the fact he is running our country into the ground. I especially find it totally insulting to say we don't know what it means to be a good christian!


sherry
Comment posted April 11, 2009 @ 7:00 pm

yes follow the constitution,big p.you cant just make up rules as you go along If you think that is being a sore loser you are right. I can't believe the total ignorance of some people . Don't yopu see what is going on? duh?


Sarah
Comment posted April 12, 2009 @ 7:23 pm

Wait a minute, Bush starts a war that will cost us 1.68 trillion dollars, and the GOP says that critising him is un-American and un-patriotic, and Obama wants to spend that much to better US education and health care and he is some sort of nut job? We are you all outraged that we are rebuilding Iraq when we need to rebuild America? Be a true patriot and support your president!


Sarah
Comment posted April 12, 2009 @ 7:28 pm

We are not a Christian nation, read the Constitution. This country was founded on freedom of religion, meaning plurality.

What is it with a tea party anyway, you have representation.


Sarah
Comment posted April 12, 2009 @ 7:30 pm

Bush governs for 8 years, Obama for less than 3 months, and it is all his fault? Put down the bong.


Sara
Comment posted April 12, 2009 @ 7:35 pm

You're telling me that our good Christian president isn't ethical and moral? How dare you, you should be ashamed. I'm sure you didn't mind how government grew steadily over the past eight years my dear, but now suddenly it is a problem. Wake up and pray to God for guidance cause you need it. God bless America and God bless our president!


John
Comment posted April 12, 2009 @ 7:42 pm

45% of all earmarks were sponsored by Republicans. 92% of the budget is a continuation from the last administration, and 8% is added by Obama for things like education and healthcare and energy independence. Educate yourself and stop trusting Rush, Rove and Fox exclusively. They had there day, in fact they had eight years and look where it got us.

The GOP has no vision, no leaders, no solutions… They only have what they have always had….fear tactics.


sherry
Comment posted April 13, 2009 @ 6:46 am

like I said previously dear, If our president deserves respect he would get it. Quit blaming Bush when we had a democratic congress who pushed the agendas for equal housing for all . Oh, it doen't matter whether they could afford it . That 's what we are here for. You don't ever need to tell me to pray for guidance, I do that on a daily basis to help me understand why people like you don't inform themselves on what is really happening and just throwing out all this rhetoric. Also deary how can you pay for all these socialistic programs when our country is going bankrupt?


sherry
Comment posted April 13, 2009 @ 6:54 am

thats what scares me is our representation.


sherry
Comment posted April 13, 2009 @ 7:29 am

i also pray for people who think it is ok to kill full term babies


jr
Comment posted April 13, 2009 @ 7:34 am

hope it doesn't fizzle out, because if it does then we are sunk


Sara
Comment posted April 13, 2009 @ 11:01 am

Democratic congress!!!!!!! Six year of TOTAL republican control of the White House, Senate and the House!!!!!! An Bush NEVER vetoed a spending bill. WAKE UP!!!


Strom
Comment posted April 13, 2009 @ 11:03 am

Obey Obama: The Road to Tyranny

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?v…


mark klein
Comment posted April 13, 2009 @ 5:35 pm

Here in lies the problem. You all want to argue that your politicians are right. You argue that your side was right while the other side was wrong. The truth is that neither side is right. Politicians only work for power, not people. In order to get power, they do whatever it takes to get re-elected and you all take the bait. While Bush was screwing the pooch, the democrats stood on the sidelines so they could point a finger come election time. The Tea Party is not about polictics and it is not about taxes. The Tea party is about both sides spending our kids future without even a thought. WAKE UP YOU SHEEP! The politicians want you to argue back and forth so there is no movement in either direction. That way, suprise, they stay in POWER. I personally don't care who runs the country. Just leave me to work out the details of my own life.


jewel
Comment posted April 13, 2009 @ 10:45 pm

If we don't stand up now for our rights and freedoms, you won't be allowed to work out the details of your life. They will be dictitated to you by the government, who will decide how much money you earn you get to keep to live on and enjoy life. Get It?


Teabaggin' GOOPers
Comment posted April 14, 2009 @ 1:38 pm

You whacked-out, freak show, angry old white men teabaggers need to get a life, and quit teabagging everyone in sight..


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aRealAmerican
Comment posted April 15, 2009 @ 6:28 am

you must be one of the ones sitting at home letting us pay your bills. must be nice


sherry
Comment posted April 15, 2009 @ 7:28 am

why don't you move to europe since you lioke socialism so much?


eko
Comment posted April 15, 2009 @ 3:19 pm

I agree with this steatment ”
If you beleive that BIG GOVERNMENT is the answer; then ask yourself- do you think they run the post office efficiently? Do you think that they manage social security efficiently? Do you think that they manage Medicare and Medicaid efficiently? Do you think that they managed Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae efficiently? Do you think that they manage our education system efficiently? Do you think that they manage veteran's health care efficiently? Do you think that there may be alot of waste and fraud OF TAX PAYER'S MONEY in these programs? If your answer to these questions are a resounding NO and a YES to the last question then you have no business that is more important than attending your local TEA PARTY. ” That is true.


tired
Comment posted April 15, 2009 @ 3:47 pm

I have tried to do the right thing my whole life. I pay taxes every year, bought a house that was less than 2x my gross income, joined the military to support my country, put money in my 401K, and did the things that are suppose to let me live the american dream. Come to find out that if I lied, cheated, and played to people emotions vs. what is right, I would have been better off. I think that the American people should be able to stop these bailouts and have some place to go that the gov't isn't screwing up our lives. Big gov't is not what this country was built on and it is not what is going to help get us out of any situation. Anytime you add gov't to any situation, you end up with more cost and less output. YEAH FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STANDING UP AGAINST THOSE WHO ARE DESTROYING AMERICA.


Patrick
Comment posted April 15, 2009 @ 4:46 pm

This “Tea Party” is not affiliated with any political party? I find that hard to believe when all I see on the news is Fox News covering this with their hard core pro-Republican stances. I am looking for diversity in the crowds, but all I see are White angry conservatives and supposed independents (basically unhappy Republicans that can't become Democrats). If the people participating in the Tea Parties are so upset with out of control spending, where were they during the first 6 years of the Bush administration & Republican Congress? Remember the surplus he inherited? Oh, I forgot, if you protested against the Bush machine, you were unpatriotic. I get a good laugh at this “grass roots” movement. During the Bush years, I wrote many letters to the editor that got published protesting the actions of Bush & Co. I even was tracked down by one of those “right wing nut-case extremists” who threatened my life and told me to lay off of “his” president. I don't have any problems with this demonstration, but I do have a problem with the way it is being disguised as an inclusive process. I am sure Democrats and liberals are welcome only to beef up the numbers, but when you scan the signs, you see mostly hard core anti-Obama signs. Since he is our current president, does that make these protesters unpatriotic? Just checking up with you all in regards to how you feel about your patriotism. Conservatives amaze me. They only want it their way and when they don't get it, they throw out all kinds of ugly and unkind words towards the liberals and the media. How many of you out there are better off after the horrible 8 years of Bush? The current problems are because of poor management of our country by Bush & Co. I have yet to see if anyone out there can offer any solutions. All I see are complaints and whining with long drawn out fact sheets and talking points>>>NO SOLUTIONS>!! I don't have solutions to the problems of our country because I and anyone who is not in the trenches of government don't really know how things really get done. So, I am supporting President Obama and giving him a chance to figure out how to undo the last 8 years and fix this country. If we have to spend trillions of dollars to make things better, than let's do it. If things work out and the country improves, we can get out of this mess sooner. If we don't do anything, we will end up far worse off than where we are now. Come on you “right wing extremists/terrorists”, give me some solutions that will help me understand your beliefs and make me change my mind.

Patrick


Kathy
Comment posted April 15, 2009 @ 7:45 pm

Patrick, Most of the people you are seeing at the Tea Parties are hard working folks that work, pay their bills and vote. Most have not been happy about where the government has been going over the past several presidents, but have voted toward the conservative side; which for many of us was considered to be the the lesser of two evils. If the current administration hadn't spent so much money so fast and toward questionable ventures, those same conservatives you are talking about may not have protested, but waited till the next election. I've read many of your posts and although you seem well read, I'm not sure you really want to understand what the beliefs of the “right wing extremists/terrorists” are. We don't want the government to take care of us, we want them to stop spending our money so we can take care of ourselves.


bria
Comment posted April 15, 2009 @ 8:24 pm

This is now my mantra! Thanks so much for putting how I feel so perfectly in print! If you don't mind, can I copy this and put it on my Facebook page?


Educated Citizen
Comment posted April 15, 2009 @ 8:39 pm

No matter how much the public news mocks and downplays the Tea Party Day named after the Boston Tea Party not the other term they allude to, the fact is the ordinary people (Republicans and Democrats alike)are standing up for their beliefs. Keith Olberbermann and Rachel Maddox attack others as well as demonstrating their ignorance. Any fool can make fun of others and these shows will only appear to the foolish.


Patrick
Comment posted April 15, 2009 @ 10:13 pm

Who are Keith Olberbermann and Rachel Maddox? I at least watch all networks to see what is happening on all sides and I can spell the names of the people who I don't particularly like. “Educated Citizen” might want to do a spell check or a fact check on how to spell the names of those he/she doesn't like much. If the “news” people on Fox are not making fun of others, then who is? Fox is notorious for shout fests with guests that have a different point of view.


TS
Comment posted April 16, 2009 @ 12:55 am

These people are fucking unbelievably stupid and selfish. Public safety, fire departments, social security and K-12 education are all socialized. I'm paying for your stupid kid to fail at history, but I'm not complaining. I'm paying for your house not to burn down, but I'm glad to do it. It's called helping others, and it's pretty appallingly unpatriotic to let your fellow countrymen suffer.


bob dorman
Comment posted April 16, 2009 @ 1:59 pm

The white hse and liberals just dont get it. Now the spin is that this tea party stuff is just a conservative ploy, not representative of Americans as a whole.Wonder if they would get it if instead of everyone going to work and working till June to pay taxes, they just sat at home on the same day. I just wonder.Not one of the federal workers produce a single valuable item. They are all overhead and we should as small businesses know what overhead does to the bottom line,. It kills your business eventually, just as it does countries. We should rename america “USSA” united socialist states of america. Strange is nt it, we spend trillions to eleminate the USSR, and now we will spend trillions to create another one even worse. USSA. Only now its our children and grandchildren's money. None of us has the right to obligate them to this kind of legacy. No One. Even this group of representatives.


bd
Comment posted April 16, 2009 @ 2:11 pm

Why dont people remember that while GB was in the white house the senate and house was ran by their so called reps. Blame GB if you want but when i studied politics in high school, it was not the president who wrote and passed legislation. Your reps, look it up. Go back a little further and you ll see the liberal tax and demos have been in “power” three to four times longer thad monen any conservatives. Look it up unless you dont want to know what your talking about. I am all for new jobs and energy so why dont we spend burnable fuel from our mountains of coal. Why dont you ask your reps. These would create thousands of legitimate jobs and lessen our dependance on our eastern friend. France is doing it. If they can do it any one can.


Izzy
Comment posted April 17, 2009 @ 10:54 am

I attended my tea party which was held in the middle of a work day over the lunch hour and we had a tremendous turn out. The liberal media is attempting to paint this movement as a Republican, rich person's movement. I can assure you that it is not. This is a grass roots movement, it's an American movement from all different backgrounds and affiliation's and it's made up of Americans who are down right fed up with an irresponsible congress, senate and President. These three entities are leading us down the path to much higher taxes for EVERYONE, a much larger corrupt, incompetent government, and on to the path of socialism. I don't believe that any American be you democrat, republican, liberal, conservative or independent wants to leave that kind of future for their children and grandchildren. I will continue to protest until we have a responsible congress, senate and president in office. I won't quit!!! I hope you don't either. THE SILENT MAJORITY MUST NOT BE SILENT ANYMORE.


Izzy
Comment posted April 17, 2009 @ 11:06 am

DID YOU KNOW?

If you're a 50-year old-with a college degree, you will pay approximately $81,000 over your working life just to pay the interest on the debt in the new budget.

If you're a 40-year-old, you'll pay $132,000 for the interest on this new budget.

And if you're a 20-year-old, just starting out after college, you will pay a whopping $114,000 just to service the interest on the debt created by this budget.

This is what these tea parties are about! Now add to that some pay-down of the principle & I think you have a real clear idea that 5% of the American population, or the over $250K crowd cannot do it alone. The only other group out there is the middle class of this country that will shoulder this huge debt Keep in mind that this does not include the debt that Bush and the republicans ran up, this is just on Obama's 3.7 trillion dollar budget proposal. Anyone wonder now: why the tea parties????


Patrick
Comment posted April 17, 2009 @ 11:39 am

Dizzy,

“THE SILENT MAJORITY MUST NOT BE SILENT ANYMORE.” When will you understand that you are now the MINORITY in America? The MAJORITY elected in a refreshing new president and took over the senate and congress. It is time for a completely new approach to running this country and if you don't like it, you are entitled to protest>>that is everyone's right, or leave it and go somewhere else! Where were you during the 6 years of Bush & the Republican congress & senate when they ran up our debt and spent recklessly? My guess is that you had your head up your ass and hated the protests against Bush and his administration. So, get over yourself and if you choose to suffer as I had to for 8 years>>go for it! I think Obama is doing a great job and if he needs to spend boatloads of money to clean up Bush's mess, spend it! This mantra you and your “grassroots” one day movement are throwing out there “Our children and grandchildren are going to be paying for this” is just typical Republican fear. Have a great day and keep fighting for what you believe in. I did and I got a new president who I think is going to make a big difference. One more thing>>why are all of the Republicans on the talk shows “former” politicians? Maybe they got run out of office due to their old fashioned ways and hyprocrisy!


Izzy
Comment posted April 18, 2009 @ 9:46 am

Patrick got your checkbook? Saving your money, because you are damn well going to pay for this outrageous spending, you are not going to be exempt because you are a liberal!!!There is no written law that states that because you are a left wing nut case that you don't have to pay and pay dearly you will.


Izzy
Comment posted April 18, 2009 @ 10:38 am

By Bill Connor

“It would be irresponsible in the extreme for an individual to forestall a personal recession by taking out newer, bigger loans when the old loans can’t be repaid. However, this is precisely what we are planning on a national level.”

No Kidding, do any of you who are up to your neck in debt, go out and create more debt??? Insanity, yet that is exactly what our government is doing, they are following a failed Keynisian economic policy that never in history has worked. Those that have failed to learn history are destined to repeat it. Give the tax payer back their money and we will gladly grow the economy.


Izzy
Comment posted April 18, 2009 @ 11:44 am

I don't know about all of you who attended your tea party but to have Tom Brokaw interview this left wing loon on TV who called all of us racists is criminal and it is an insult to all Americans. We had alot of Black people at our rally and they were just as vocal about the out of control spending that the rest of us are. They realize as Patrick doesn't that they will have to flip the bill for this, there is no way in hell that the only people who are going to pay this are those that make over $250,000 because there simply is not enough of those people around. Besides, these are small business owner's who employ the great majority of Americans.

Obama keeps claiming that he is going to give 95% of us a tax reduction, he is even giving people who DON'T pay any taxes a tax refund- that amounts to a welfare program, but he is going to eliminate the Bush tax cuts next year. In other words= he is going to give you a dime with his right hand and take a dollar back with his left hand next year. Man oh man do they think we are stupid out here in the real country.Sorry thing is, the people who voted for him are. I am no racist but I will tell you we elected the WRONG black man.


Patrick
Comment posted April 18, 2009 @ 12:52 pm

WHERE WERE ALL OF YOU “TEABAGGERS” DURING THE FIRST 6 YEARS OF BUSH AND THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS & SENATE AND THEIR RUN AWAY SPENDING? You never answer that question! Where was your rage then? I saw a lot of coverage on the tea parties and saw very few non-white people. My take on this is that this movement is just a bunch of racist cranky white people who can't accept the fact that they are no longer the majority!!


Yvonne
Comment posted April 19, 2009 @ 11:32 pm

During the days of slavery, slaves were not allowed to be educated because they would have thrown off their shackles. That is why the Democrats want to keep running failing schools and oppose the voucher system which Obama is closing down in D.C. because it was too successful.They don't want to educate their children because they will wise up and realize they are being held down. It is all about staying in power and paying off all the unions that put the Dems in office. They couldn't give two hoots about our country nor its people. It's all about the vote so they can stay in power. Don't forget, this has been a Democratic congress in charge for some time. This whole financial meltdown was caused by the Community Reinvestment Act when Clinton was in office which forced banks to give loans to people who couldn't afford them. When Bush and McCain tried to warn us about FannyMae and FreddyMac being in trouble – Democrats, Barney Frank and C.Dodd who were in charge of the Finance committee said they were just fine – that's because they were getting big pay-offs from them. Thank them for our troubles today. Follow the money, the Dem's always get most of it. Now they want all of it to cary out their Socialistic programs. Obama is right brained and doesn't know a thing about finance and he's being led by Rahm Emanuel who is making the balls for him to throw. I take it you don't have any children or you wouldn't be so willing to to throw our future down the toilet.


Yvonne
Comment posted April 19, 2009 @ 11:39 pm

What did Patrick up above just say about Conservatives saying derrogatory things? And who's angry??


Yvonne
Comment posted April 19, 2009 @ 11:44 pm

Where were you in 2001? The Radical Islamic killers started that war.


Yvonne
Comment posted April 19, 2009 @ 11:50 pm

Throwing money at already terrible schools where you can't fire a wrotten teacher because of the union won't help educaxtion and if our health care is so terrible, why do all the foreigners come here for their operations because of the waiting lists where they come from. In my home town the hospitals are full of illegal immigrants who are using the emergency rooms as their free healthcare
providers.


Yvonne
Comment posted April 19, 2009 @ 11:54 pm

I notice you didn't put a real name on your disgusting comments


Yvonne
Comment posted April 20, 2009 @ 12:05 am

You are right, he was elected by a very large uninformed majority and that is exactly what is wrong with this country. Precisely why they want to keep people as stupid as they are by continuing to under-educate them. The uninformed electorate will continue to elect “American Idol” presidents who 's only talent is reading from a teleprompter.


Yvonne
Comment posted April 20, 2009 @ 12:11 am

Moral, good Christian people do not kill their unborn and their elderly (that's next on his agenda)and they don't eat their young like animals to stay healthy (i.e embrionic stem cell research)


Yvonne
Comment posted April 20, 2009 @ 12:29 am

Wake up both of you. The whole purpose of congress is to bring money back to their constiuants so they will vote for them again. Is this a surprise?? 45%, 92% and 8% of nothing is nothing. WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY!! WE ARE BROKE!! Who cares who did what – throw all of them the hell out, and throw out their life-long pensions with them. They are useless on both sides of the aisle. We are going the way of the Old Testament and Obama is not the second coming. We got what we deserve!!


Izzy
Comment posted April 20, 2009 @ 6:13 am

Patrick, you don't get it, very few of us were happy with the out of control spending going on with the Republicans in office, that's why they lost the house and senate 3 years ago, they were voted out. Did you notice that McCain did not win, the reason is the majority of Republicans were tired of the out of control spending. Now we have Obama who everyone thought would fix the problems we as a country have, CONTROL DEBT, be TRANSPERANT, ELIMINATE EARMARKS, ELIMINATE PORK, all of these were campaigne promises that he made over and over again. GUESS WHAT!!! He lied, he rushed through billions of dollars on a so- called stimulut bill that our representatives did not have time to read, let alone the American people, WHERE IS THE TRANSPERANCY, IT WAS FULL OF PORK. Chris Dodd, to everyone's surprise, wrote in those bonuses for FAILED EXEX'S at AIG in the stimulus bill that no one had the chance to read and then feigned outrage. The OMNIBUS bill had 9,000 earmarks, Bush refused to sign it, so the democratic congress held it over for Obama, who signed it without question. OBAMA'S BUDGET THE 3.7 TRILLION DOLLAR ONE THAT WILL BE VOTED ON OCT 2ND, EXCEEDS ALL OTHER BUDGETS BY ALL OTHER PRESIDENTS COMBINED. That's why we protest. Do you get it now??? I don't care what color you are, what your party affiliation is, the out of control spending has got to stop or it will bankrupt this country and our grandchildren will be growing up in a 3rd world country , eating garbage out of garbage dumps and living in cardboard shacks. Is this the future you want for your children and grandchildren??? Because if it is you are not a bleeding heart liberal, you are a selfish person who cares only about your own agenda with very little regard for how we leave this life to future generations.


Izzy
Comment posted April 20, 2009 @ 6:38 am

Patrick, don't try that B.S with me, you have never gotten off of the Rachel Maddox show, or you would post more intelligently. Your obsession with spelling demonstrates your total lack of knowledge on the facts and issues.,You can't debate intelligently with anyone, your posts have absolutely no substance with very little to back them up. When you liberals are losing the argument you go on the attack to divert attention from the real issues like the out of control spending, yet you can't cite a congressmen, senator, etc to back up any of the claims that you make. You can't even tell me why you voted for Obama because you don't know. You probably voted for that hope and change, yet you won't be capable of telling me or anyone else how you or the President are going to get there. Instead you do the diversion tactic, you blame Bush for everything and correct the spelling on everyones' posts. You have no idea what's in the stimulus bill, the omnibus bill, any current legislation that is being debated, so don't attempt to sound intelligent, because I have yet to read one of your posts that is. DID I SPELL THIS ALL CORRECTLY ENOUGH FOR YOU???


Patrick
Comment posted April 20, 2009 @ 2:32 pm

Izzy,

I appreciate your comments, but I am giveng President Obama a chance to see what he can get done. It has only been a little over 3 months and I think he is doing everything he needs to do to stabilize the financial mess. I see how you are unhappy with numbers coming out of the congress and stimulus package, but unfortunately, I believe you are trying to continue the “fear factor” that has been part of the Republican mantra through the years. I am giving the president about 1 year to see if there is any improvement with things. I just think you and many of you out there are not giving him the proper time frame so see what happens. I think Obama has been 1,000% more transparent than any previous president. Give it a chance to see how it shakes out. Did you vote for Bush twice? If you did in 2004, then you are part of the problem. He lied his way through his presidency and cost this country way too much money and lives. Once again, all I see from you are statistics and numbers, but no solutions. What do you think are the solutions to our country's problems? I myself don't have any solutions because I don't have a clue how things get done in DC. As a hard working person, I feel that both Democrats & Republicans need to be swept under the carpet and we need a completely new set of politicians running this country. We need to make the process much more simple and I do agree about eliminating the pork. Have a good day.

Patrick


Patrick
Comment posted April 20, 2009 @ 2:47 pm

WOW Dizzy>>you are one angry conservative!! No, you did not spell Rachel Maddow correctly! Maddow, not Maddox!! And I do watch Bill “No Spin?” O'Reilly and Sean “I hate all liberals” Hannity. Fox is just an extension for the angry white Republicans. You probably think Ann Coulter is awesome. She is the meanest bitch in our country.

The reason I voted for Obama is because I think he will do an overhaul on how this country operates and will try using diplomacy, not war to solve international issues. I do blame Bush for destroying my country. He is an idiot and with Cheney, created the most divisive regime ever in office. Rice was a puppet and Rumsfield was an idiot as well. Why to you think Scott McClellan is now speaking out against them all>>he got smart and realized the bullshit from Bush & Co. Karen Hughes was a hard core total bitch defending her man Bush. Alberto Gonzalez was a joke and did what he was told while totally politicizing the justice department. I say line them all up and give them some floggings! They ruined my country. I was an angry liberal, but I am now a happy one with my president in office and you conservatives whining and crying. You give me great fodder Dizzy (Educated Citizen?).


Patrick
Comment posted April 20, 2009 @ 2:56 pm

Bush did it!! 9/11 was a result of Bush not paying attention! He had nothing to base his presidency on and let it happen so he could look like a hero. It could have been stopped. When he came into office, Clinton tried to sit down with Bush and his new administration to discuss it, but Bush dismissed them all. I still think Bush created it and wanted to finish a war his dad did not by making the Muslims look like they are all terrorists. Only a few radical Islamic killers are out there and due to Bush, the numbers rose greatly. So, chew on that Yvonne. And, on one of your posts above, you mention my name under a very foul post which I had nothing to do with. I guess you think all liberals are foul like I think all conservatives are closed minded.


Patrick
Comment posted April 20, 2009 @ 3:05 pm

Do good moral Christians take sacred vows only to break them? Why is divorce and rape amongst Christians so rampant? Heterosexual married men are the highest percentage of child molesters (usually their own children). I don't want your morals to be mine and you should not expect everyone to walk in lock step and follow you and your Christian narrow minded process. This is America and we are supposed to be allowed to live with each other and respect each other. It is hard for me to respect Christians when they feel their way of thinking is the correct way to think, but also the right way. If good & moral Christians don't kill their unborn and elderly, why do they believe in war? God comes in many forms!


Patrick
Comment posted April 20, 2009 @ 3:50 pm

Yvonne,

I posted this a while back and I would love to see how a good Christian person responds.

I have some general questions for those on this blog who would like to reply:

1) How does same-sex marriage affect you individually?

2) Why are “liberals” so hated amongst conservatives?

3) Isn't it true that the large majority of pedophiles are heterosexual and usually a family member?

4) What did President Bush do that helped this country?

5) Are you unhappy that we have a Black president?

6) Why is President Obama not being allowed a proper time to make a difference?

7) Why are there so many divorces amongst heterosexuals when the take a sacred vow “Till Death
Do Us Part”? If marriage is so sacred, why don't more people fight to keep it together?

8) Does the Christian/Conservative movement approve of birth by non-married people?

9) What is the opinion of Sarah Palin's underage daughter being pregnant & unmarried?

10) Why doesn't “abstinence only” not work? Is it because of lack of education by parents?

11) Why is the conservative movement against adoption by single gay people and not
single straight people. Single straight people are more likely of child abuse.

12) What is the beef about stem cell research?

13) How would you react if your child was gay?

14) Is your opinion of Dick Cheney favorable even though he has a lesbian daughter?

15) Why do you opose abortian when a woman is raped?

16) Do you believe in the death penalty?

17) Why are the majority of conservatives/Christians so against fellow Americans having a different
point of view and why can't they simply accept other opinions and co-exist?

18) Why are so many Republicans of the belief that Presicent Obama is a Muslim and if he was,
why is that such a problem? The extreme terrorists are a very small percentage of Muslims!

19) Do you think we will ever be able to live amonst each other without hatred & bigotry?

20) How many of you are doing better after 8 years of President Bush?

Thank you for considering answering these questions. I am trying to figure out why we are so divided and can't seem to come together. I am a gay liberal who accepts all of you and your differing points of view and is thankful there are different people in MY country. After all, America is supposed to be a melting pot of immigrants. Both liberals and conservatives are guilty of keeping this country divided!


r
Comment posted April 20, 2009 @ 4:01 pm

your wrong dude.quit watching msnbc.their ratings suck.you got tricked by obama.read economics before you vote.Retard


Izzy
Comment posted April 20, 2009 @ 8:42 pm

No conflict of interest here. Let me see, GE owns CBS, CBS'S CEO is on Obama's economic team after he finished trashing GE, no vote of confidence here, any wonder why Tom Brokaw let that crazed lunitic wacked out women call all of us who attended our tea parties racists, I am not wondering anymore, CBS no longer is the free press, they are the Obama propaganda machine. Their network should change from CBS to OPM.


Izzy
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 7:44 am

Transperancy- Obama promised transperancy, but I thought he was talking about letting the American people have enough time to read the stimulus bill before our representatives signed it. I guess I misunderstood, transperancy to Obama means that he will release TOP SECRET information to our enemies against the advise of the last 4 directors of the CIA.

Obama goes on a trip and chums it up to two brutal dictators, Hugo Chavez and Daniel Ortega,” when you have friends like that you don't need any enemies.”

I was going to vote for Obama until I saw Reverend Wright and I being a regular church goer knows that you can't sit in a church for twenty years and never hear any of what the pastor says. It just isn't possible. He listened and heard all of Rev Wright's racist and anti-american comments. Rev Wright had a cd with all of his anti- American, anti- white racist statements to rally radicals to his church. even Oprah Winphrey had to leave Wright's church because she could not sit through the diatribe of hate and racism against white people.. No one should be surprised here, we all saw those red flags before you voted for him. Had the Wright information come out before super Tuesday of last year we would be looking at a Clinton presidency, not an Obama one.


Izzy
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 8:27 am

Hey Patrick, I have some homework for you, you can google search The stimulus bill and read 1588 pages that spends 850 billion dollars that congress and the senate did not read before they signed it. With your SUPERIOR intelligence you should have no problem breezing right through it. It will take you a couple of days to be thorough and check all the spelling, we all know how good you are at that, when you are done with that you might try reading the Omnibus bill which spent 410 billion and has 9,000 earmarks. Be sure to check the spelling on that bill too. Who knows? You just might run across some pork in these bills. LOL


Patrick
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 12:46 pm

If you all thought Watergate was bad, just wait as we uncover the corruption and lies of the Bush/Cheney, or is it the Cheney/Bush administration. Thank God (yes God you conservatives!) that President Obama is willing to prosecute the previous administration for their wrong doings. Why do you think Cheney is going on the war path and speaking out so much? He is afraid he will be exposed as the head of torture! Bush & Cheney and the Republican party lied so much and now they are scared shi%*#@*. Dick Cheney is the ultimate terrorist!


Akhman
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 4:11 pm

Can someone tell me why Conservatives are such hypocrites. I am a Canadian and love Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul- these guys told the truth about 9/11- and though not very pro-Obama I still like the guy.
You did not complain when Bush was wiretapping, examining which books you were taking out from the library, spending like crazy for war and torturing. If anyone complained they were 'unpatriotic' or 'anti-American'.

Now you have someone (Obama) who inherited a problem of crazy spending and ridiculous wars, he is taking money to try to resolve the problem. He is opening the books on torture, he is trying to reduce military spending (more than the rest of the world combined), he is trying to shrink your empire abroad and all you guys do is try to paint him as the new Hitler?? Where were you guys during the wiretapping on US citizens? What about the crazy war spending? What about the crazy bailouts by Bush? No where, but just screaming “God-bless 'Merica”.

Some of you guys are intelligent and really concerned but most others are really nuts: e.g. crazies who still point out barack “HUSSEIN” obama, worry about FEMA camps, condemn OBAMA for abortion (WTF does that have to do with taxes), black helicopters from the US paranoids, etc. If you are going to whine or complain then do it consistenly or keep your mouths shut!!! You right-wing Yanks truly know how to embarrass yourself! I know, I know, it's your country not mine. But I still have a right to point and laugh. Well, we have a crazy Christian Conservative PM in Canada- Stephen Harper- well maybe I don't?


Izzy
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 6:14 pm

Akhman, which planet are you from, no one was tortured, 3 people were water- boarded one of them being the master mind of 9-11. That's it. We were attacked first, 3,000 American citizens were murdered, Do you really think that for one second the majority cares if 3 terrorists were water boarded after the destruction of life and property in America? Because if you do, you are lost. This is political and it demonstrates the mindset of the extreme left wing in this country.

Obama is extremely naive to the point of being dangerous, in my mind it is not a matter of if we are going to be hit again, it's a matter of when. The only good thing that Obama has done is to keep the wire taps in place, thank God common sense prevailed here. The far left is giving him hell about that and in my mind that's the only smart thing he has done.

As far as the out of control spending goes, we were mad at the Republicans and Bush for this, but because of this we have a democratic congress that is even further out of control than the Republicans. Obama's 3.7 billion dollar budget proposal will bankrupt this country and probably takes yours down with us. Obama's budget will exceed all other previous budgets by all other Presidents, it quadruples Bush's spending. You don't spend your way out of debt and that's exactly what this President and his administration are attempting to do.


Izzy
Comment posted April 21, 2009 @ 6:50 pm

Just for you left wing liberals who never take the time to do research or read anything. Let's just see how consistant you are in your beliefts. You have been hollering about wire taps, now what do you think when your guy, Obama, is for it.

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Press MaterialsApril 6th, 2009

Obama Administration Embraces Bush Position on Warrantless Wiretapping and Secrecy
Says Court Must Dismiss Jewel v. NSA to Protect 'State Secrets'
San Francisco – The Obama administration formally adopted the Bush administration's position that the courts cannot judge the legality of the National Security Agency's (NSA's) warrantless wiretapping program, filing a motion to dismiss Jewel v. NSA late Friday.

In Jewel v. NSA, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is challenging the agency's dragnet surveillance of millions of ordinary Americans. The Obama Justice Department claims in its motion that litigation over the wiretapping program would require the government to disclose privileged “state secrets.” These are essentially the same arguments made by the Bush administration three years ago in Hepting v. AT&T, EFF's lawsuit against one of the telecom giants complicit in the NSA spying.

“President Obama promised the American people a new era of transparency, accountability, and respect for civil liberties,” said EFF Senior Staff Attorney Kevin Bankston. “But with the Obama Justice Department continuing the Bush administration's cover-up of the National Security Agency's dragnet surveillance of millions of Americans, and insisting that the much-publicized warrantless wiretapping program is still a 'secret' that cannot be reviewed by the courts, it feels like deja vu all over again.”

For the full motion to dismiss:
http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/jewel/jewelmt…

For more on Jewel v. NSA:
http://www.eff.org/cases/jewel

Contacts:

Kevin Bankston
Senior Staff Attorney
Electronic Frontier Foundation
bankston@eff.org

Cindy Cohn
Legal Director
Electronic Frontier Foundation
cindy@eff.org

Rebecca Jeschke
Media Relations Director
Electronic Frontier Foundation
press@eff.org

Related Issues: NSA Spying

Related Cases: Jewel v. NSA

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Izzy
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 5:58 am

A BAIL OUT IS TAX PAYER MONEY for all you libs who don't get it.

Bailed-out firms spend millions on lobbying
GM, banks find cash to fund bids to sway lawmakers, Obama administration

by Dan Eggen

updated 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Top recipients of federal bailout money spent more than $10 million on political lobbying in the first three months of this year, including aggressive efforts aimed at blocking executive pay limits and tougher financial regulations, according to newly filed disclosure records.

The biggest spenders among major firms in the group included General Motors, which spent nearly $1 million a month on lobbying, and Citigroup and J.P. Morgan Chase, which together spent more than $2.5 million in their efforts to sway lawmakers and Obama administration officials on a wide range of financial issues. In all, major bailout recipients have spent more than $22 million on lobbying in the six months since the government began doling out rescue funds, Senate disclosure records show.


Izzy
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 6:09 am

The headlines in my local paper- The Gazette:
U.S open to Torture Inquiries:
Bush officails who authorized harsh interrogation could be prosecuted:
Washington President Barrack Obama left open the possibility Tuesday of legal consequences for Bush administration officials who authorized the harsh interogation techniques applied to ” High-value” terrorism suspects, saying the attorney general should determine whether they broke the law. Obama also said that if Congress is intent on investigating the enhanced interroagation program, an independent commision might offer a better means to do so than a congressional panel, which he indeicated is more likely to split along partisan lines than produce constructive results

You got to be kidding me, you dissagree with the previous adminstration so you go and prosecute them? In four years when Obama gets thrown out on his butt, I want the new administration to prosecute him for generational theft. .


Izzy
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 6:43 am

Akhman and Patrick, what's up, no reply on the wiretapping that Obama is continuing.. Did it stun you into silence, who is making a fool out of themselves Akhman? Maybe you both should do your homework before you get on these boards and spout off, Education is a good thing. Knowing what you are posting about is a good thing, Paying attention to something other than the Rachel Maddox and NBC- the Obama propaganda show is a good thing Reading a couple of different newspapers is a good thing. Google searching stimulus and omnibus bills are a good thing. You can actually learn something from all of the above. LOL


Izzy
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 8:14 am

Winston Churchill, ” The best argument against a democracy is a 5 minute converstion with an average voter.”

My take, ” The best argument against a democracy is a 1 minute conversation with an Obama voter.”


Patrick
Comment posted April 22, 2009 @ 9:40 am

Hey Dizzy,

You clearly have a lot of time on your hands! I participate in these posts when I can. As much as I don't like calling people names like you do, you are one angry conservative. I do watch Fox News with O'Reily and Hannity to see what is being reported (?) on all angles. Both MSNBC & Fox are very biased in their reporting, so if you are a conservative, you love Fox, and if you are a liberal, you love MSNBC. In regards to propaganda>>Bush put out more spins and propaganda to make people like you fall into order and walk in lock step like Hitler did to the Germans. Cheney is on the news a lot to defend his illegal activities. Watch the movie Rendition. It shows how innocent Muslims are abducted by the US Government (during the Bush years) and tortured. I have to get back to my work so I can pay my taxes, which I am happy to do!


izzy
Comment posted April 23, 2009 @ 6:07 am

Boy, I bet all you libs are feeling a whole lot safer out there. Obama released our interogation tactics to the world against the advise of 4 former CIA directors, George Tennant included, Now Move on dot. org, funded by the Billionaire George Soros, the anti-god, anti-American radical leftist, does not want to move on, he wants Patrick Leahey and his hacks to prosecute former Bush administration officials who put this all together.

Obama closes Gitmo without having any where to put the worst terrorists alive, no country wants them and even George Soros does not want them in his back yard.

When it comes out and it will with a full investigation that waterboarding 3, let me say that again, 3 top terrorists led to preventing further attacks, one in California and another in Brookland. After allowing this dog and pony shown Obama will have egg all over his face and shoudl there be another attack which murders American civilians it will be the kiss of death for a second term.

HE HAS THE PRE 9-11 mentality.


izzy
Comment posted April 23, 2009 @ 12:39 pm

Definition of recession

Recession= When your neighbor loses his job.
Depression= When you lose your job.
Recovery= When Obama loses his job.


Patrick
Comment posted April 23, 2009 @ 8:25 pm

Another twist:

Recession=When Bush was in office.
Depression=When Bush was in office.
Recovery=When Bush was getting on the helicopter for the last time. Hallelujah>>There is a God!


izzy
Comment posted April 24, 2009 @ 12:28 pm

Cap and trade tax:

Some estimates to every American household for this tax ranges from $2,000 to over $4,000 a year in increased utility costs.

Keep in mind that to this date there is no solid evidence that points to humans as causing Global Warming, many weather scientists have stated that this is a natural occuring situation that has occured over thousands of years.

Another important fact- WE WOULD BE THE ONLY ONES DOING THIS, other industrial nations would not do anything. Air moves freely, it has no boundries, so in essence we would be punishing American business and the American people with this tax and it would produce absolutely 00000 results.

“Congress is debating the largest tax increase in history, the cap-and-trade energy tax.

Cap-and-trade is a tax on coal, oil, and natural gas but instead of being a specific tax rate, the total level of use is capped and companies are forced to pay the government for emissions permits. They bid against each other to stay in business, and nobody knows how much the tax will be until they hold the auctions.

It's a crazy, unpredictable tax, but it's certainly a tax.

The Pelosi/Reid/Obama strategy is to hide the gigantic tax hikes they want to fund their bailouts and big government spending inside a global warming bill. The U.S. House of Representatives has been holding hearings all week to move forward on this scheme.

Last year, among friends in San Francisco, Obama explained what his cap-and-trade energy tax is supposed to do to ordinary Americans:

“Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket… whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.”

There is one simple way to put members of Congress on the record and figure out if this is about the environmental at all, or just an excuse to hide a big tax increase: Ask them to sign the Americans for Prosperity No Climate Tax Pledge, which pledges members to “oppose any legislation relating to climate change that includes a net increase in government revenue.”

So far we have over 100 lawmakers on the federal, state and local level. To stop this massive, hidden tax hike we need a lot more and we need your help!

Take action and tell your representatives to sign the pledge today! “


izzy
Comment posted April 25, 2009 @ 10:07 am

Boy these politicians think we are sooooooo stupid out here. A 100 million dollar cut in Obama's projected budget does not amount to a 1/2 drip of water in a 5 gallon bucket.

Buy in Bulk!
JENNIFER RUBIN – 04.24.2009 – 3:30 PM
If not for the on-off interrogation show trial debacle, the biggest presidential misstep of the week would have been the laughable effort to nibble $100M out of the federal budget. Not only conservatives are laughing, as this report explains:

“You’re cherry-picking the base of the tree on stuff that is not innovative,” said Paul C. Light, a scholar of federal bureaucracy at New York University. “Purchasing in bulk? Wow, that’s a bold idea! Teleconferencing? Holy moly! None of this stuff is the kind of bold sweep you’re hoping Obama will bring to the management of government.”

Isabel V. Sawhill, a Clinton administration budget official who directs the Budgeting for National Priorities project at the Brookings Institution, said she feared the cuts would be “lampooned” on late-night talk shows.

“I’m not sure I thought it was a good step towards convincing people that he cares about fiscal responsibility,” she said.
I’m not sure either. But this is what the Obama team is forced to resort to — silly symbolic efforts because of the trap they find themselves in, or rather, have put themselves in. They have created a massively irresponsible budget that will, over time, eat up more and more of the GDP and strain our ability to finance our debt. And the public, independent voters especially, are very nervous about it. Figuring that the public isn’t paying much attention to the number of zeroes, Obama throws out a number that used to sound like a lot of money — $100M. But the public is perhaps smarter than Obama reckons, and the administration’s critics aren’t playing along with the charade.

The result: everyone got a reminder of just how irresponsible the Obama fiscal policy is. Good thing for whomever thought this up that the news was swamped by the interrogation memo fiasco. Otherwise someone might be in trouble.


sherry
Comment posted April 26, 2009 @ 9:25 am

Izzy I couln't say it any better. please keep up the great posts. I sincerely cannot imagine what these people are thinking when they worry about torturing these peices of garbage who murdered our citizens and others around the world. One more instance showing that obama has no idea of how to run a country. What really frightens me is our security being so totally diminshed. Obama should have just issued an invitation to all the terroists in the world to come on over because we will not mistreat them, maybe he wants to entertain them at his home?


Patrick
Comment posted April 26, 2009 @ 11:46 am

Dizzy Izzy,

Do you enjoy life? You are so obsessed with putting Obama and his administration down with your fact finding missions. As I have asked you before, where were you during George W Bush's 8 years? You must have had your head in the sand and now you are unhappy that something different is being done. I have a suggestion to you. I was as obsessed during the Bush years and all it got me was being angry and bitter. I finally got over it and just had to live during a presidency of a man I had no respect for. So, now it is you and your conservative friends time to be angry and try to destroy Obama. All this is going to get you is feeling important to yourself by thinking you are influencing others with your constant bloviations. Stop and smell the coffee and flowers. Get over it. The latest polls show that the majority (62%) approve of Obama, so that puts you in the 38% group. Have a great Sunday and if you go to church, say a prayer for you and your bitter friends. It is so ugly to be so upset about things out of your control. Hug your gun, hang your confederate flag, and do whatever you need to do to feel empowered and better than those that don't have the same beliefs you have. I respect your opinions and feelings and am thankful you are in my country. It just makes me feel better that I can freely have a different opinion.


izzy
Comment posted April 29, 2009 @ 1:38 pm

Winston Churchill,:Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and gospel of ENVY, it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.


jesus H Christ
Comment posted May 7, 2009 @ 6:53 am

s my d


Satan
Comment posted May 7, 2009 @ 6:56 am

All hail the dark lord.


Patrick
Comment posted May 10, 2009 @ 9:28 am

Bush was the murderer! He allowed the attack because he was so stupid, he had nothing to base his presidency on, so he killed almost 4,000 Americans and then many more in Iraq. He is the piece of garbage (him and Cheney)!


Patrick
Comment posted May 10, 2009 @ 4:28 pm

Bush was the murderer! He allowed the attack because he was so stupid, he had nothing to base his presidency on, so he killed almost 4,000 Americans and then many more in Iraq. He is the piece of garbage (him and Cheney)!


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[...] The Washington Independent’s Dave Weigel is perennially celebrated on these pages because no one’s done a better job at walking the margins of the right-wing fringe. Part of what makes Weigel such an effective chronicler of the outlands is that he hews to a disciplined set of rules of engagement — as a result, the subjects of his pieces open up to him. And while Weigel’s plenty wry about the world he’s been exploring, he very expertly uncovers the things that can and should be taken deadly seriously about it. Over the past year, he’s written the book on the Birther movement, offered the best on-the-ground coverage of the fascinating election in New York’s 23rd district, and is THE GUY who proved that the term “Teabagger” is a name the Tea Party activists chose for themselves. [...]


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Comment posted February 5, 2010 @ 9:33 pm

The tea party members are bunch of unhappy ,ignorant white folks that but us in the position this Country is in . They voted for the people AKa Regan, Bush, and Bush that promised them that, they would protect you from people of color. In stead these people had another agenda , it was to steel a country.
You voted for it you got it. You got what you ask for.
Obama is trying to straighten this Country out for you people' but all you see is Black . All you understand is racism and ignorance . You complain but you have no answers . You can't even agree on how to organize your selves. The whole would is looking at your ignorance, your stupidity and the only thing that your doing is proving what people around the world have always thought of Americans.
You talk about liberty , but liberty for who? You have no idea what liberty is. You have no idea what Democracy is. You have know idea what Christianity is. You have know idea how to solve this nations problem you whine, and spew you vile hatred for ideas that are not grounded in any principle. You are counterfeit Christians, your patriotism is counterfeit, and your belief in Democracy and your love of this country, is counterfit.
How can you talk about Liberty when you deny the truth . When your ideals have no foundation.
Good luck I'm 67 I've seen behavior like yours come and go. You have not place in the modern World, You days hatred and contempt for what is right are over.


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Comment posted February 10, 2010 @ 5:07 pm

We already have the right to bear arms. Second amendment. And it takes a super-majority plus to change that. In this land of shoot first, ask questions later, that will never change.

Reducing spending by our elected officials and “By the People, For the People” is a great idea.

What do you have against immigrants? Unless you are a Native American, you come from a family of immigrants yourself. Can you show me a job where you are legitimately competing with immigrants for work?


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Comment posted February 10, 2010 @ 5:25 pm

Yes, I, a Liberal, feel much safer with Obama in the White House and Bush/Cheney out of power. I am also an atheist, not needing any of your sky-god bullshit.

You obviously know not of what you speak, as waterboarding producred ZERO actionable intelligence, and had the effect of not allowing any information that might have been procured while waterboarding to be used in court.

My bet is that you never served in the military (I did, 4 years US Army, GO ARMY!), don't have a degree, and really have no clue what you are talking about.


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Look f_cktard, the vast majority of people it Gitmo were brought to US authorities to settle beefs and get paid. Most of those people are innocent.

You ought to stop sh_tting in your pants from fear and realize that you are as safe today as you were under the Bush/Cheney regime.


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It'd called enforcing the rules of LAW. What an idiot you are.


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And why would you think that Liberals don't know this? This is more of an education for the remainder of the conservatives who read this website, as you people show such incredible ignorance on most subjects.


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Waterboarding IS torture, you idiot. Go ahead and try it and see if you disagree. Hell, even your hero Glenn Beck admits it is torture after going through it or literally seconds.


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Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 12:28 pm

Wm D Dixon sez, ' The tea party members are bunch of unhappy ,ignorant white folks that but us in the position this Country is in”

So he would have us believe that they are protesting themselves?

Muhahahahahaha!

You sure didn't learn much in your 67 years Willie, didja? LOL!

btw get the log of racism out of your own eye before you plant that on anyone else! ;)


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Comment posted February 12, 2010 @ 3:39 pm

Teabag the tea party and tea bag the predatory lenders who are responsible for the housing bubble. Don't blame your neighbors, blame the banks.


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Comment posted February 13, 2010 @ 12:36 am

your 67 and you havent learned a single thing about this movement that is true at all. im 25 and i've got all of it down. you arent being told anything ur butt better get over to fox news so you learn whats really going on.

this is the return of the conservative republican party. bring it back to it's roots in the principles of running government the way it basically was ran a hundred years ago. we dont want to bankrupt the govt. obama is doing that for us. if you believe borrowing and spending that money when we have near nothing left wont bankrupt us. then do it to yourself and see what kind of debt you rack up. that is the essence of the govt. going bankrupt to give us a new currency called the “amero”. it's a prototype currency for us canada and mexico. look it up and buy a few on ebay. expensive ! we have our own ideas rooted in conservatism and they are the best idea's to run the govt with bar none ! you cant do any better! period. and it was the democrats that caused this darn housing crisis with the community reinvestment act of 1977 under jimmy carter that forced banks to give loans to people who really couldnt afford it ! thanks dems ! by calling this movement racist is the dems attempt to silence and discredit this movement. this is why you are demonizing them. join us darn it ! we promote freedom for every american !


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Comment posted February 13, 2010 @ 12:46 am

we're obsessed with obama. hahaha. im sorry that ur mad that we're criticizing him. boo friggin hoo. no. obama is doing really really bad !

he is bankrupting the whole government and i will refuse being apart of the citizen bailing out the government process. they skrewed up even before with the HOUSING CRISIS THEY CAUSED with the community reinvestment backed by the democrats in 1977 !

we will cut obama ZERO slack on anything YOU HEAR ME ???
just like you guys cut bush and sarah palin zero slack !
obama is being destroyed single handedly buy the us. and one news channel FOX ! you dems are history for trying to sockerpunch in the face by trying to take over the healthcare system and forcing us to take the 1 choice public option! there is NO place IN AMERICA FOR SOCIALISM !

MOVE TO FRANCE LIBERAL DEMOCRAT COMMUNIST SOCIALIST NATIONALIST PEOPLE ! this is the land of the free ! and not the new politics of above !


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Comment posted February 13, 2010 @ 11:51 am

Come on you peel a way a conservative name plate, you got a racist . You know that I know that. You hind behind abortion and guy issues because you don”t want expose you real ideas on race.
When are you people going to except the fact that you are a sick bunch and real Americans have not time not time for bull.
You guys don”t have brains God gave a goose!


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Comment posted February 14, 2010 @ 11:47 am

As I understand your post:

I'm 25 and I've got it all down.
You aren't being told anything.
You are incapable of learning unless you learn from our source.
Our sole source of information is the only information source.
We are the GOP of trust-buster, National Park forming Teddy Roosevelt.
Our deficits are superior to your deficits.
Our borrowing is superior to your borrowing.
(Some untranslatable batshit crazy fiscal stuff in four part harmony.)
Our ideas are superior to your ideas.
All other ideas are unworthy.
Democrats are at fault.
Our freedom is superior to your freedom.

I do have a question about your assertion that “we have our own ideas rooted in conservatism and they are the best idea's to run the govt with bar none.”
Since the ideas you defend include no taxation, the gold standard, red-baiting (reference pictures for examples) are at odds with proven economic reality, Constitutional wording, and dispassionate consideration, what scale are you using to judge your ideas as 'best'? Or do you feel that since 'you got it all down' it is unnecessary to examine current conditions for a root cause, and evaluate solutions for those most able to correct the root cause?


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obama told everyone, before you elected him, that he was ''going to redistribute the wealth''.
everyone saw obama's beliefs before the election.
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Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 7:31 pm

You should learn to write, spell, and use grammar correctly prior to making an intellectual point. But I guess that is what “but” us in this position. “In stead” of playing your ignorant race card why don't you do some research before making a point. It is clear you have “know idea” what you are talking about. Who's really the ignorant one?


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Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 8:59 pm

Why aren't there any black people at these meetings ? you can't research stupidity. You say that your are not a racist . Why then do you go to meetings with people that are. If it walks like duck, talks like duct, hangs around with ducks then its a DUCK. How come when someone points out to you people your latent racist tendencies they are playing the race card? You can't play a card if the card doesn't exist. The tea party is a group of scared, angry white folks . What are you mad about?You voted for the people that created this mess.
Why don't you take this time to get honest understanding of the condition this Country is in. Try to understand how we got into mess and what we have to do to get out of it. Maybe my grammar and spelling isn't perfect, but you my friend need to spend more time in civics classes.


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Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 9:42 pm

Show me a conservative principle that holds true to the Principle Of Democracy. Just one! You can't Conservative have only one principle, and that principle is( any way the win blows it”s cool with them) as long as it helps them acquire their goals. You me and everybody else in this Country are reminded every day that we have to play by the rules to achieve the American dream. Conservatives have been the Gate keepers for the last 28 years and look what their values have done to this country. A smaller middle class, no jobs, people at one another s throat, , not excepting personal responsibility Conservative coined the phrase personel responsibility and refuse to admit that they messed up. Ronald Reagans trickle down ideas ment nothing more then piss on the American people they didn”t work.


Rephaser
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 3:22 am

John I hope when you graduate you not going to work for civil rights division of the justice dept. I thought the idea patriotism was to stand up for American values . that all men were created equal, life liberty and the pursuit of happiness
I thought Democracy was a give and take proposition. You left out half of America, you going to throw away the parts of America you disagree with?What kind of Lawyer are you going to be?


Rephaser
Comment posted March 1, 2010 @ 10:51 pm

The Tea Party believes in Democracy wants to take back their liberties , but only for certain people . This proves my point, you have no principle . You react out of emotion , that is the type of conduct that got us into this mess.
You talk about the founding fathers and their ideas, but you don't understand any of these ideas . I'd like to add another point. It may have sounded like a intellectual point , but actually I was expressing the opinion of a average person that had seen a lot, and experienced a lot in ones life.


IcedTbag
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 12:31 am

You should learn to write, spell, and use grammar correctly prior to making an intellectual point. But I guess that is what “but” us in this position. “In stead” of playing your ignorant race card why don't you do some research before making a point. It is clear you have “know idea” what you are talking about. Who's really the ignorant one?


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Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 1:59 am

Why aren't there any black people at these meetings ? you can't research stupidity. You say that your are not a racist . Why then do you go to meetings with people that are. If it walks like duck, talks like duct, hangs around with ducks then its a DUCK. How come when someone points out to you people your latent racist tendencies they are playing the race card? You can't play a card if the card doesn't exist. The tea party is a group of scared, angry white folks . What are you mad about?You voted for the people that created this mess.
Why don't you take this time to get honest understanding of the condition this Country is in. Try to understand how we got into mess and what we have to do to get out of it. Maybe my grammar and spelling isn't perfect, but you my friend need to spend more time in civics classes.


Rephaser
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 2:42 am

Show me a conservative principle that holds true to the Principle Of Democracy. Just one! You can't Conservative have only one principle, and that principle is( any way the win blows it”s cool with them) as long as it helps them acquire their goals. You me and everybody else in this Country are reminded every day that we have to play by the rules to achieve the American dream. Conservatives have been the Gate keepers for the last 28 years and look what their values have done to this country. A smaller middle class, no jobs, people at one another s throat, , not excepting personal responsibility Conservative coined the phrase personel responsibility and refuse to admit that they messed up. Ronald Reagans trickle down ideas ment nothing more then piss on the American people they didn”t work.


Rephaser
Comment posted March 2, 2010 @ 3:51 am

The Tea Party believes in Democracy wants to take back their liberties , but only for certain people . This proves my point, you have no principle . You react out of emotion , that is the type of conduct that got us into this mess.
You talk about the founding fathers and their ideas, but you don't understand any of these ideas . I'd like to add another point. It may have sounded like a intellectual point , but actually I was expressing the opinion of a average person that had seen a lot, and experienced a lot in ones life.


Bill
Comment posted March 30, 2010 @ 4:59 pm

I'm concerned about the current alignment with Republicans, regardless of how conservative they say they are. Just today it was reported that hundreds of thousands of donations supposedly used for electing good candidates was used instead on private jets ($17,500), limousines ($15,000), very fancy hotels ($31,000) and a s*x club ($1,946.25). We tried term limits once before, but it was just a ruse to get one set of career politicians out of office (D's) and put another set in (R's). Both are corrupt.
It's time for a third party.


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William Dixon
Comment posted April 19, 2010 @ 11:50 pm

You can't promote freedom for every one if you don't have you facts straight . The community investment act was created because blacks were being discriminated against. And that black communities were being red lined.
As far as running the Country like we did a hundred years a go . Young fella the responsibilities of Government change, so the requirements of Government change. No society can exist for any length of time by excepting only the status quo.
Ronald Reagan was one of the first Presidents in peace time to state that deficits were Ok. This point was restated by Vice President Cheney last year.I'm not trying to silence or discredit any movement . I'm trying to point out the things that are wrong with the Tea Party as I see it. We have made so many decisions in this Country about policies, that have been based on fear, racism , and miss information. Look were it has gotten us?. We can't even come to some sort agreement, becauseof ,race fear, and miss information.


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Comment posted May 8, 2010 @ 5:21 pm

That is a lie. Show where he said he was going to redistribute the wealth. Now jobs are coming back when Bush was losing 7 to 8 hundred thousand a month. The stock market went from the six thousands to closing in on 11 thousand. Bush and Republicans destroyed this country with their lying wars and huge tax cuts to the mega rich. From a surplus to a deficit in the wink of an eye. You righties can only lie so much and to the stupid azzzes that thing Conservatives have your best interest.


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If you voted for either in any election then you are part of the problem. Try the Constitution party if you are looking for real hope and change because that $*** the the Obamipostor os peddling is sheer Socialism. And it is only going to get worse, because most Americans are too stupid to see what is being done to them as evidenced by the signs at the recent DOPE rally put on by those two DOPE comedians.


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