GOP Turns to Talk of ‘Spending Freeze’

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 8:18 am
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Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) (WDCpix)

Between Monday’s Fiscal Responsibility Summit and Tuesday’s presidential address to Congress, the White House’s economic message shifted to new territory: health care.

“To my fellow budget hawks in this room and in the rest of the country, let me be very clear,” said Peter Orszag, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, at the financial summit. “Health care reform is entitlement reform. The path of fiscal responsibility must run directly through health care.”

Image by: Matt Mahurin

Image by: Matt Mahurin

The sudden shift caught Republicans off guard. They had girded for a health care battle, but not on these terms. House Republicans have responded with a change of subject: they have proposed a “spending freeze,” a controversial idea among economists during an economic downturn. Their immediate target is the $410 omnibus spending bill that packs together nine bills, containing spending that ranges from NASA to national parks, that did not get a vote in the last Congress. It’s a double-down bet on spending austerity and opposition to “wasteful spending” as the message that can bring the party victory in the 2010 mid-term elections.

“We’re advocating that Congress freeze all federal spending immediately,” said Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.), the chairman of the House Republican Conference, during a Tuesday luncheon at the conservative Heritage Foundation. “People out there are hurting, and they understand what you do when times are tough. You make hard choices. Today House Republicans are urging the Democrats to do the same. We think it’s time that the Democrats put our money where their mouth is.”

The strategy — in its very early stages — presents problems for Republicans who have not received any measurable uptick in support from their opposition to the economic stimulus package. Most of the party’s leadership is on record having supported Bush-era spending packages that grew the deficit. With the exception of a shrinking number of moderate Republicans from the northeast, all of the party’s members of Congress support further tax cuts, which would lead to revenue shortfalls. And while Republicans argue that voters are on their side and opposed to further spending, there are few polls that back this up.

Pence’s argument for a spending freeze is widely accepted within the Republican conference. On Monday, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) asked Democrats to “abandon their plans” to push through an omnibus bill “and instead pass a clean bill that freezes spending at current levels.” Gov. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) has decried the economic stimulus package because, in his words, “when times go south you cut spending.” In a conversation on Monday, freshman Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) concurred with party leaders.

“We’ve already done TARP, we’ve already done the stimulus, and we’ve already spent $3 trillion,” said Chaffetz. “Can’t we freeze it at that point? We already have a $3.1 trillion budget, and the majority asked for, and got, an additional $2 trillion. It’s just time to say, ‘time for a freeze.’”

This is a controversial stance: an economic downturn is not generally seen by economists as the right time to cut back on government spending. “They’re about as wrong as it’s possible to be,” said Robert Reich, Bill Clinton’s first secretary of labor, when asked about the Republicans’ statements on Monday. Bruce Bartlett, a conservative economist who wrote a book critical of George W. Bush’s spending, could not name many peers who believe that smaller deficits and less spending are the way to combat economic downturns. “It’s a total double-standard,” said Bartlett. “Republicans deficits stimulate, Democratic deficits don’t.”

Brian Riedl, the lead budget analyst for the Heritage Foundation, disagreed that the economics of deficit spending were quite this simple. “Is the assumption that expanding government is good for economic growth?” asked Riedl. “If that worked, France and Germany would have spent the last 25 years as the strongest economies in the world, instead of watching the United States grow at a faster rate.”

Republicans have taken this view of recession economics and laid some of the groundwork for an anti-deficit, anti-spending argument on “fiscal responsibility.” As Byron York reported in the Washington Examiner, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is one of several Republicans attempting to “connect the dots” between various spending bills and inform voters of the overall sum. Sen. McConnell, for example, pointed out that $1 trillion was more than $1 million every day since the birth of Jesus Christ. Two weeks later, a conservative political group, the American Issues Project, recycled Sen. McConnell’s attack for an anti-spending TV ad.

The problem is that spending austerity is not — as it was in the early months of 1993, for example — very high on voters’ minds, or even high on the list of reasons why voters remain cool on Republicans. In his response to the president’s State of the Union speech, Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-La.) argued that voters had “rightly” rejected the GOP because the party “got away from its principles” and “went along with earmarks and big government spending in Washington,” repeating an argument that Sen. John McCain made during the presidential campaign.

There is little polling to bolster this argument. Voters did not list government spending, or earmarks, or deficits, in their top concerns in the 2006 or 2008 national exit polls. The current Washington Post/ABC News poll puts support for Democratic plans at 64 percent. Indeed, the closest any pollster has come to nailing down public opinion on earmarks conducted by the Club for Growth, the free market, anti-tax, and anti-spending political group, known as a “527,” that funds like-minded Republicans and primary challengers. In a 2006 poll conducted across 15 swing districts — where the vote for George W. Bush over John Kerry was, on average, 2 percent higher than the 2004 results — the Club asked voters whether they’d be more likely to support “a candidate who wants to reduce overall federal spending, even if that includes cutting some money that would come to your district; or, a candidate who is willing to increase overall spending on federal programs and grow the federal budget, in order to get more federal spending and projects for your district?” By a 57-28 margin voters supported “cutting spending.” But the issue has not placed high enough in voters’ priorities to be tested in major polls since 2006.

As Republicans push for spending cuts or spending freezes, they continue to propose tax cuts. That unsettles even some economists who agree with the thrust of Republicans’ arguments. “I would probably not support supply-side tax cuts right now,” said Lee Ohanian, an economics professor at the University of California-Los Angeles who co-wrote a much-cited study arguing that the New Deal lengthened the great depression. “There’s no tax reform being discussed right now that would expand the tax base and increase revenues.”

In Tuesday’s address to Congress, President Obama furthered the argument that “fiscal responsibility” would mean reforming health care by the end of 2009. Republicans, conspicuously, gave the president a standing ovation when he spoke of a “responsibility to ensure that we do not pass on to them a debt they cannot pay.” But there is something like unanimity among Republicans that they can respond to the deficit by attacking spending, and not by engaging on what they expect to be expansions of health care coverage.

“What you saw percolate up, with that vote on the spending package, was a reaffirmation that we didn’t just lose our majorities in the last elections,” said Pence on Tuesday. “We lost our way. Americans long for the Republican party to return to discipline and reform. This is a new House Republican party, and the other side had better get used to it.”

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Comments

83 Comments

kali
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 8:13 am

really? so all of a sudden now that his party is in the minority this moron is getting religion about fiscal responsibility.. man, what an jerk… I swear, these guys have ZERO sense of irony — or history…

once again we see the lack of intellectual honesty on the part of these backward-thinking guys is breathtaking..


emlr
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 9:15 am

–Gov. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) has decried the economic stimulus package because, in his words, “when times go south you cut spending.” –
That's kinda like the banks saying “when times go south you quit lending.” How's that working?


grf67
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 9:16 am

How about bringing all of our military forces home, cutting the gifts to foreign countries like Israel, Egypt, and Iraq, cutting several major defense program that will not be needed for the next 40 years, and terminating the Eupopean missile defense which is stupid and provacative. We can probably save as much as $50 billion that way.


mwea
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 9:39 am

Pherhaps they can start with the automatic, no vote pay raise received by congress every year


buggey
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 9:43 am

Republicans don't run this. Democrats won. Obama is our PRESIDENT! They need to STFU. We don't care what they say. Last night, Our President knocked it out the ball park.


Debra
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 9:48 am

I think Obama's education plan, requiring all Americans to finish High School and go to some type of college must begin with Republican Congressional members. Until they have had Economics 101, successfully passed the course, and understand that 'no spending' would be the daggar that killed the nation, they are not allowed to vote an further legislation.


Hawaiianstyle
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 9:51 am

Every time I get a news letter from my company, or union, It says my medical plan co-pay amount is going up. This is because the cost of the medical and drug plan is so great that the company and/or union cannot sustain the paying of the plan amounts.

If this financial burden were to be shifted to the US Government would not that benefit both the company and the union? Additionally if done right it would give medical help to all Americans and thus be a huge benefit to the struggling folks.

I can't believe that every employer with a drug/medical plan would not welcome such a plan.

I think maybe Congress, who already has a huge comprehensive plan that gives them and their families wonderful coverage for life after one term in office, is the ones opposing a government drug plan for political reasons.

This sounds like someone is playing politics. If a Legislator opposes a Federal Medical and Drug plan ask him who pays for his/her plan!!! If he answers its a Federal Plan ask him/her why they don't refuse or oppose it????


idealthoughts
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 9:59 am

It was interesting to note the poll reported in the NY Times yesterday that basically showed that besides Dems, both Independents and Republicans supported Obama's planning and that Obama should not try to work with the Republican minority. Now instead of some kind action as Obama is taking the Repugs say “do nothing, freeze it all”. So we see a transistion from the “Party of NO” to the “Do Nothing Party”, hmmmm that sounds very familiar……oh yeah wasn't that what the Whig Party was called at it's demise? What ever happened to those Whigs any way?


suzyku
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:01 am

The republicans are the party of “stupidity”, they remain clueless and out of touch with the American people! I believe they need to disband, get rid of all of these idiots and start over. How are these fools elected?!


suzyku
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:01 am

The republicans are the party of “stupidity”, they remain clueless and out of touch with the American people! I believe they need to disband, get rid of all of these idiots and start over. How are these fools elected?!


suzyku
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:01 am

The republicans are the party of “stupidity”, they remain clueless and out of touch with the American people! I believe they need to disband, get rid of all of these idiots and start over. How are these fools elected?!


Proud Liberal
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:05 am

Tax cuts tax cuts that is the Ghost in political disscussion for decades. Cut the taxes for the rich and it will trickle down to you!! That is the fear and the lies that has been policy of the Republicans since I can remember. That policy has been in place since the republicans took over Congess and the White House, see where it has put us? Those ideas HAVE NOT WORKED PERIOD!!!!! No need to debate it argue it spin it or lie about it..IT HAS NOT WORKED!!! Time for us as a country to realize that and move on. taxes are part of life, we all have to pay them, we can't hide our assets overseas, we have to pay taxes PERIOD!!! Lets put some common sense in this disscusion instead of the same tired BS that has been floating from Republicans for years!!


TJ
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:31 am

Oy vey!

What next?


Willy
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:33 am

We lost over a trillion dollars of spending from the economy, and your solution is to….stop more spending?

Seriously? I don't know who gave them the rope, but somebody better stop them from hangin' themselves, and pronto


Al
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:35 am

Mike Pence happens to be my Congressman. He is fortunate to “represent” an area with no major media outlets based in the district and knee-jerk conservative constituents who vote R first and ask questions later. If the nonsense that Pence says and does in Congress were better known in the district he could easily be defeated. He is an opportunist with ambitions for higher office. Now his propaganda line will be to express shock and outrage at government spending. When Bush was in office and no-bid contracts and “off the books” spending for Iraq was going on he conveniently ignored all of that and instead continued to rail against “welfare” and “entitlements.” He as far to the right you can get without being an out-andout Fascist.


chris
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:37 am

What is it about the words “DOES NOT WORk” do these republican (small r = small brain) supply-side dummies don't understand?? heeeee heeeee talk about beatin a dead horse………or worse………a dead D actor ! !


Al
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:38 am

With folk like Sanford and his ilk representing the Dixie states, I ain't “going south” anytime soon!


Iron Will
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:40 am

Wow…. Just Wow. I can't wait till 2010 when the Republicans lose more seats and maybe, just maybe wake up from their delusional daydreams.


Logical American
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:42 am

Republicans are gone; these people represent the party of Hypocracy

No spending to help the poor (who need it); No tax cuts for the rich will resolve our problems.


Herbert Walker
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:51 am

I live in Pence's district, here in Muncie, Indiana. Pence is a total fraud. (Well, what Congressperson isn't?) Just as he says “freeze spending,” the story comes out that the Republicant's (as I call them) caused an increase in spending in Congress' own budget. Despite their elections losses, they wanted no cutbacks in Republicant's staff numbers on the Hill.

Only big money gets you to Congress, and Pence is just another pimp for the rich. Watch Eddie Murphy learn how Congress operates in “The Distinguished Gentleman.” You'll see Mike Pence-type crooks in that movie.


Al
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:54 am

Good one! I bet most of thse GOP Congressmen never had a course in Economics, Sociology or even History for that matter!


Ittie Bittie Tittie Committee
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:54 am

More like Brain Freeze.


Al
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:55 am

I live in Greensburg. I hope you are willing to vote and work against Pence next time. He uses that whole “All Congressmen are Alike” philosophy to get re-elected on the notion that he is no worse than the next guy. But he is…..he is the worst lunatic in Congress!


carole47
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 10:59 am

Krugman was right when he referred to them as the party of Beavis and Butthead. Mike Pierce is an obvious butthead and we'll lump Bohener and Kantor and all the rest into a pile of Beavis.


drkaza12
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 11:11 am

While charity pantries empty, and emergency rooms stack people in like loaves of bread, the GOP has gone fishing. If the tax cuts that were issued during the Bush administration worked, there isn't a radar in the public domain that can detect it.

All they have to do is ask Jeffery Sachs–economic shock therapy– what'll happen if they freeze spending now; what ever appendage that would benefit from its flow will shrivel up?

Their best hope from this tragedy–the GOP–is that it will dismantle the Obama stimulus plan, which is already deemed by most economist as not being enough to reach the top floor, rendering it a failure. And that by its failure they can gather a little steam in the poles, and shape an agenda.
The ugly story attached to this is that a lot of people will suffer.

At what point will the GOP give up obfuscating every issue, and the Eddy Haskle posturing. When will they at least once try being Wally, and drop the PT Barnum shtick thinking their the only nickle in the pack that aint bent.


Sophia Beck
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 11:16 am

If the Republicans are so concerned. Here is a solution:

Shave off 10 to 15 % off their salaries
Then cap and put a salary freeze on their salaries
Cut out the limosines, special travel
If they live 245 miles in radius-have them use their personal car
cut out meal per diems and travel per diems/unless approved by the President
Cut out cost of living expenses and office expenses
Charge them for using the copy machine-5 cents per page
If they need to fly-have them fly economy-no personal planes anymore


LDF
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 11:18 am

Wasn't it a spending freeze by Hoover that precipitated the Great Depressioin and a similar turn to “fiscal responsibililty” by FDR that partially reversed the gains made by his New Deal?


CenterLeft
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 11:45 am

After 8 years of republicant spending like drunken sailors, they have the nerve to even talk about fiscal responsibility. These sons of bitches can go right to hell.


ricardo
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 11:49 am

Who cares what these men think? They lost and they are in the minority in more ways than one.


dan
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 12:04 pm

Here's an idea…….take whatever the Repubs suggest and do the exact opposite.


Suki
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 12:14 pm

Good use of colorful metaphors. I am going to guess you are a fellow Midwesterner.

:o)


Barb
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 12:15 pm

Do these morons listen to themselves?? Do they have any idea how completely idiotic they sound?? I guess not since they just keep talking and making themselves look stupid and petty!


Barb
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 12:19 pm

Heck no . . . let them hang themselves!! They just don't get it . . . they don't get that the american people spoke loud and clear on election day . . . we don't want what they have to offer. Let them hang themselves . . . the sooner the better!


Jumbo
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 12:22 pm

I wonder what the make-up of Mr. Pence's looks like. It's difficult to believe that he continues to be elected.


Levittown
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 12:23 pm

The only freeze should be the Republican paychecks. The unemployed and the short changed over the years by Republican selective legislation that favored the haves and sideswiped the needy are ready to rebel. They have no patience with the false negativity that they are spreading. The nation needs a
push forward not obstacles erected by whiners and losers. True patriots would get behind their President, not quit on him or their country.


bob
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 12:28 pm

Funny how the Republicans are all for controlling spending after they wasted 2 trillion dollars when they were in control of the white house, senate, and congress. This 2 trillion dollars does not even include the cost of the war in Iraq and Afganistan.

Republican = incompetence + immorality


jmw2006
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 12:31 pm

HYPOCRISY


jmw2006
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 12:35 pm

GOP shows it's HIGHEST LEVEL OF HYPOCRISY

A ten percent increase in the budget for Congressional operations was needed because Senate Republicans wanted to retain previous staff levels despite having lost roughly 20 percent of their ranks in the 2008 elections, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said Wednesday.

Congressional Republicans have been pouncing on any instance of wasteful spending they can find, but the congressional-operations.line item will likely remain safe from their ire.

The one-tenth hike brings the budget for Congress itself to $4.4 billion.


John
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 12:35 pm

This is just opposition for opposition's sake. The contradictions in the Republicans' position are so fraught that they call into question the sincerity of their motives, not to mention the logic of their thinking. Deficit spending is fine when it's for war, but when it's for domestic priorities it's an evil?

The problem for the Republicans is the same one confronted by the Communist Party in Russia when Gorbachev was instituting his reforms. They know the game is lost, that their theories failed utterly. They just can't let go.


Churchlady
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 12:39 pm

What grew over the last 30 years was riches, not national wealth. When you count the goods of sheer gambling – investing in speculative paper – as if it's the equivalent of manufacturing (with much snazzier profit gains) you might as well say that casinos and the race track are true measures of national well being. We sold our birthright for a mess of pottage, and,since we're tearing down manufacturing plants, we're offing the golden goose as well. GDP growth is a fantasy based on hype, smoke, and mirrors.


Dan W.
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 12:58 pm

LOL.

What hypocrites. When conservatives were spending us out of house and home, turning Clinton's surpluses into almost incalculable debts under Bush, they had nary a whiff of anything to say about spending.

We need fiscal discipline, but hypocritical, spendthrift conservatives are the last people I'd look to for that.


cfbarnhart
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 1:04 pm

You forgot getting rid of the franking (free postage) privilege. :-)>


jarrett
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 1:16 pm

Rep. Pence is the same guy who went to Baghdad with John McCain wearing bulletproof vests at the market pace with armed guards at their side, only to come back and claim it was just like a summer market in Indiana.


Unrepentant Liberal
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 1:17 pm

Another repub who had his bowl full of 'Crazyflakes' for breakfast this morning. Are these people trying to throw the 2010 election? (Ah yes, once the republican party is small enough to drown in the bath tub, then and only then will they mount a stirring comeback!)


David J. Newland
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 2:09 pm

I have a question:

Pubs like to claim we have had all this economic growth. How much of that growth was fueled by the fact that we have borrowed almost 10 trillion dollars since 1980 in order to pay for our government spending, which in turn ends up in the economy fueling “growth”. If that 10 trillion dollars was removed from the economic picture, would Pubs still be able to claim “25 years as the srongest economy in the world”.

I can be richtoo, if I never worry about paying what I owe, and borrow constantly.

David J. Newland


bigtimepatriot
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 2:11 pm

“We think it’s time that the Democrats put our money where their mouth is.”

Not exactly, the Republicans want the Democrats to put our money where the REPUBLICAN's mouth is. Durin 6 years of republicans having both branches of Congress and the Presidency, Republicans were unable to come close to a spending freeze, so now they want Democrats to DO IT FOR THEM?

“What you saw percolate up, with that vote on the spending package, was a reaffirmation that we didn’t just lose our majorities in the last elections,” said Pence on Tuesday. “We lost our way. “

Pence should have added, “and what we say today is an affirmation that we (Republicans) are still TOTALLY LOST”


cindy
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 2:15 pm

And yet Congressional Republicans have refused t reduce their staff… Hypocrasy is a new 4 letter word.


Wesley Snark
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 2:45 pm

“Hypocrasy” is indeed a new word.


Charlie
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 3:02 pm

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Or….the best defense is a good offense. Or…said the Cowardly Lion, “Put 'em up, put 'em up.”

Which one applies?


LDF
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 3:22 pm

Anyone who writes anything about Republicans needs to know how to spell “hypocrisy.” The word “hypocrite” also is a must when describing most Republican pols.


PhilaGrok
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 3:25 pm

It's only $410. Does it really need to be split up into smaller bills?


J
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 3:42 pm

Gaw??? Yeah, Let's put another several million people out of work, that will fix the economy. We can just ship all the pink-slips to the troops in Iraq and let them find their own flight home. No more spending. That's the ticket. Oh, let's cut ALL the taxes down to ZERO, cut the spending to ZERO, and not have a government any longer…is that their plan? If they can't have it, nobody will? I honestly think they're hitting the juice a bit hard these days to come up with such a silly plan.


TomD
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 5:25 pm

Under GOP control, the budget went from a surplus at the beginning of W's watch to massive deficits. How was that fiscally responsible. W and the GOP led Congress spent hundreds of billions in Iraq and didn't include it in the budget. That is like running up your credit card bill to the max and pretending you didn't really spend the money since there is still some in your checking account. Nothing the GOP has done in the past 10 years has been fiscally responsible. Why start now?


Kyle
Comment posted February 25, 2009 @ 7:28 pm

OK, first stop The Pentagon.


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Comment posted February 26, 2009 @ 2:51 pm

The Republicans have ran up massive debts every time they were in power since Reagan! It took Democrats to control the deficit (Carter/Clinton) and history shows American has consistently done better under Democratic administrations… The GOP is still filled with crooks and liars! They have retarded American progress for 30 years – F 'em!


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Comment posted February 26, 2009 @ 3:32 pm

“‘It’s a total double-standard,’ said [“economist” Bruce] Bartlett. ‘Republicans deficits stimulate, Democratic deficits don’t.’”

Give me a break. Is there any evidence of this of this whatsoever? Are we not in a recession now, after years of Republican rule — and deficits? Seriously, did Bartlett just make that up on the spot? It's like the talking heads opposed to Obama's agenda aren't even trying any more.


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Arbe
Comment posted February 28, 2009 @ 6:59 am

Republicans will spend on – Wars, military armament, corporate welfare, tax cuts for the top earners,prisons, Federal programs to subjugate citizens, health care that benefits the insurance and pharmaceutical companies, no bid contracts, drug wars, etc…

Democrats will spend on – Ending wars, heath care for all citizens, superior education for all, infrastructure in the USA (roads, bridges, communications, schools), equal justice, equal rights, truth in lending, alternative energy, clean air, fair taxation, etc…

Where would you rather have your tax dollars spent?


S. T. Snake
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 9:47 am

When this economy turns around, and Obama joins in the top 3 presidents (Clinton, LBJ, and JFK) in terms of prosperity, and staging one of the greatest turn-arounds since FDR, I want it recorded that the Republicans stood against this. THE REPUBLICANS STOOD AGAINST THE ECON TURN AROUND OF OBAMA LIKE THEY DID AGAINST CLINTON!! This should be a broken record response for the next 20 years, because Americans are volitionally retarded (VR) beyond belief. So it has to be repeated. The Republicans stood against the middle class, the working class, against us. Period. Over and over.


treetracker
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 10:26 pm

What the GOP doesn't seem to get is this is not an ordinary recession. Hey, guys, get a grip – the banks aren't WORKING!!!

And as far as the depression was concerned, the data I've read indicates the policies FDR put into place reduced unemployment until he started cutting back on the spending. And, yes, it didn't end until we went to war, at which time the government spent and spent and spent.

But, hey, go ahead, get your dam ned tax cuts in place, so businesses can create more jobs – overseas, where a lot of them are hiding their money already. Or freeze spending. You keep talking in Trillions when the argument should be made based on percentage of GDP. By that measure we will still be no higher than we were in WWII. And, guess what we have 2, count 'em 2, wars going on. So what do you expect. At least this time we won't have to rebuild Europe and Japan. We just have rebuild our own country – what a concept!


treetracker
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 10:32 pm

Son was flipping channels the other day and I caught Dick Armey on Fox (just caught a glimpse, so I can't be sure it was him?) say that Reagan (and EVERY Republican President since him) have deliberately run the deficit up to tie the hands of Democrats, so they could not pursue their agendas.


treetracker
Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 10:38 pm

Well, it WAS Grover Norquist who said he wanted government to be so small you could drown it in a bathtub. After that, though, I don't know who will build bridges, fix roads, pay for police and firemen or contribute to the education of the country's children, to name a few. But, hey, if you have as much money as them, you can hire Blackwater, excuse me, xi, for security, send your kids to private schools and fly everywhere you need to go in your own helicopter. Those of us who don't have their resources, will have to take “personal responsibility” and create our own cooperatives to have those services….oooohhhh, that would be SOCIALISM!!! OMG


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Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 10:40 pm

I've decided the new word to describe them is Rethuglicrits. That pretty well covers it all.


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Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 10:43 pm

And don't forget about the housing bubble. Which has now returned us to 1997 values. A complete fake economy. So guess, what folks, we already have our “lost decade.” – Let's hope it doesn't turn into two,


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Comment posted March 4, 2009 @ 10:46 pm

Nah, they listen to Rush.


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Please don't disparage some of my favorite places – pubs – by conflating them with Republicans.
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